Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1170 - Mark and His Wife Are in a Poly Marriage and They’re Both Dating Many Others

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Mark and his wife are in an open, poly marriage and they’re both dating other people and he called in (along with his co-host Molly) to talk all about it. Tune in to hear him discuss all the details including how he met his wife and the issues she had with non-monogamy right from the get go, how he realized he was a non-monogamous guy and how he would let women know early on that he was into non-monogamy, how and why he considers himself queer even though he doesn’t fully hook up with guys, how his wife eventually came to be okay with being non-monogamous, when and how they decided to become poly and when they both started having solo relationshipships outside of their primary one, the amount of other partners both him and his wife have, the throttles they have had with partners they have shared, the issues they have due to their open marriage and how they work through them, their first date and all the crazy sexual things they did together, the hardcore CNC (consent non consent) experience he had with a woman and exactly what went down, how he enjoys prostate play and why he got into it in the first place, his trip to Iceland with his wife and their two other parters and the orgy they had with a waitress they brought up plus a whole lot more. Check out Mark and Molly's podcast:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/m-ms-candy-coated-sex-talks/id1675385180 **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠https://liferx.md⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive AND LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY   Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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check out their podcast after you listen to their stories because they're like a lot of fun and they've kind of been there, done that. But anyway, I started off talking to Mark and I left Molly for the second half of the episode. But, you know, I was like 40 minutes in still talking to Mark and he was like, I haven't even gotten to my raunchy stories. I was like, oh, fuck that. Let's get some raunchy stories on here. And then let's do Molly separate. So you're going to hear Mark and Molly on this episode. But really what you're going to get is Mark's backstory.

Mark is a very interesting guy. He's like a poly, ethically non-monogamous guy. He's an ethical slut. He has realized he wasn't monogamous at some point in his life and has been very honest about that. He's in a very long-term marriage. We talk a lot about that relationship when I'm talking to him in the beginning. and he talked about like the issues that they had being so open because they're not just open sexually.

They're open to other people having relationships with other people. And he talks about how their relationship grew and changed over time. And I question them a lot about that stuff because to me, Polly is so hard. We talk a lot about that. And then he talks about some raunchy stories. He's into a lot of kinky things. And then like I said, we're going to talk to Molly. She's on the call and she, you know, talks here.

But we're going to get her whole backstory because she's super kinky too. But you're going to love Mark's story. He's super fun, entertaining. And he ends with a bunch of raunchy stories that you won't believe. He's kind of living the life. So I'm going to get right to be right back on with Mark and Molly. Hey, Mark and Molly. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.

How are you guys today? Oh, so good. Thank you for having us both. Yeah, I'm doing fantastic. I mean, other than the normal life stresses, but most cases, yeah, fantastic. You guys happen to be podcasters. And you're not a couple, though you're not a couple. You're like, oh, as we were like doing our sound before I started taping, you're like, oh, I'm sitting on, you know, his lap.

And I'm like, okay. Because I'm like, how do you guys know each other? And like, Molly is Mark's wife's friend. You guys, you know, you do naughty things. You run a podcast. You're both, you know, host a podcast called Candy-Coded sex talks where you talk about all things naughty, right? The good, the bad, the ugly. You talk about a lot of different things.

We'll get to that part of your story of how you guys got to. together and started this because considering you're not a couple and your Mark's wife's friend and you're sitting on his lap. Molly, Molly has known my wife since they were like three or four years old about. Three years old. I know, but I don't care. Regular girls still would not want their friends sitting on their husband's lap even if they knew them since three.

You know what I'm saying? At least not girls that I grew up with. Oh, yeah. He is married to an extraordinary woman. It's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this, though. Yeah.

When I met my wife, she spent the first 18 months going back and forth, breaking up with me and then coming back to me. Oh, really? She was, yes, and she was very much like a unicorn. She had been dating other couples. She loved hosting orgies. But when she got in a relationship, she's like, I need the white picket fence. I needed to be this monogamous thing.

And she was consistently dating these guys, which she said, They look great on paper, but they're boring. And she met me and she's like, I don't know what to do with you. You can't be monogamous. You're this like wild, feral creature. And I'm going to just, I'm going to be with you, and then I'm going to break up with you, and then I'm going to run away, and I'm going to come back. And we had this dynamic constantly going until when I was like, look, if you break up with me one more time,

it's real, it's done. I can't, I can't keep doing this push and pull. And it took her a minute. I mean, I remember the first month into our relationship. I took her down to meet my submissive who lives in San Francisco, who is named Ms. Tonics. And we actually ended up all getting together in a hotel room where Ms. Tonics and I blindfolded my wife, Monko. We hid a bunch of the keys to some handcuffs after we handcuffed her. And then we made her hop around the room to find the key after which we then tied her to a marble table.

And we both just like sat on her face and like took turns with her. Oh my God. And that was my wife's in a question. Oh, that was your first date, right. That's why she kept coming back. That was like our third date. That was our third or fourth day. But I mean like that's obviously, obviously she's kinky too because that that obviously had to be the thing that kept

her coming back, you know. It's good sex sometimes. It's hard to leave behind. you know that pull. It's like she kept dumping you because she couldn't handle the non-monogamy, right? But she kept coming back for that sex. But eventually, obviously she got into it. So Mark, I mean, like, when did you, first of all, how old are you down?

How long you've been married to your wife? I am 41. My wife and I've been married about, what, two and a half years? Yeah. Two and a half years. And how long together? Three in August. Eight years total.

And we actually were introduced by my wife's brother. Oh, cool. On a blind date. This story is phenomenal. And I actually told her that a moth podcast, like in front of like 3,000 people. Oh, I love the moth. Yeah. Including my wife's family.

But her brother met me at a party. And I was getting out of the marriage. And I'm talking to him and I'm like, hey, he's like, how is it dating coming out of marriage? And I'm like, well, I'm on Tinder. And I tell everybody on Tinder, I'm really into kink. I'm really into rope bondage because I, I'm a master rope artist. And I'm also like, I won't date somebody if they're not open to anal sex.

And he just looks at me deadpan and he's like, you need to meet my sister. Oh my God. And I'm like, what? How did he know his sister was a three input girl? No, he just didn't hear what I said. Oh. He just likes me. Oh, that's so fucking funny.

But I'm operating under these assumptions. Oh, wow. This woman, A, she's really open with her family. about what she's into. Exactly. He's into kink and bondage and anal. And see, like, yeah, fuck it. Let's just meet your sister.

But let me ask you a question. But let me ask you a question a little bit before that. Like, you're just this non-monogamous guy. Were you in a relationship at that time? Had you ever been in one? Or were you just, like, hooking up with random people always and knew you didn't want to be in a monogamous relationship?

No, I have consistently been, this is going to be my third relationship in my lifetime that is now past the seven-year-mom. I have consistently been in relationships. I was married, right? I was still getting divorced when I met my wife. Even when I was younger, before I really discovered this non-monogamy, cross things and ethical non-monogamy and being an ethical slut,

I would be with partners like a year or two years in, and they're just like, you're fucking great. You're a fantastic partner, except you can't be monogamous. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I've never cheated on you. We've been monogamous for a year. So where's this coming from? Where was that coming from?

Maybe I don't have you right. I thought you're a non-monogamous guy. I'm incredibly horny. I always wanted sex. My partners could never keep up with it. And I was always open and honest about my desires. Like I'm like, oh, I desire that person. I desire that person.

Even when I was inside of relationships, I would be forward and honest with my partner. Like, oh, yeah, I love more sex. I love that. That person's really attractive. That person's really attractive. Yeah, I love that. And I think that's that kind of honesty through, you know, when I was 21, 22, it threw my partners before I discovered full on non-monogamy and in that world. And they'd be like, oh, you're just not monogamous. And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. And then like around 24, I'm like, oh, yeah, you guys are right. Oh, I see. I'm like, what do you? I thought you were non-monogamous. So you're talking about like when you were younger, you thought you were monogamous. And you could be for like a year or whatever. But then you realize like that would be what. what would go doubt. Yeah, and listen, I respect the fact that you were like super honest like that

with people up front, like, why not, you know? If more guys were like that, there'd be less cheating. Then you realize like that would be what would go down. Yeah, and listen, I respect the fact that you were like super honest like that with people up front, like, why not, you know? If more guys were like that there'd be less cheating. Yeah. It's, I just, I don't like the idea of having to maintain lies.

Oh, it's exhausting. It doesn't mean I'm, it's perfectly honest person. I'm not, but I, it's, it's just hard inside a relationship. Like, well, you're the person I'm supposed to trust with all of these things and all of me. And, and this

is all of me. Like, sorry, I am like, you know, like my current partners right now, I'm dating like four or five people. But wait a second, are you Polly, too, or just non-monogamous? Because to me, those are two very different things. Both. Oh, God.

So you don't just fuck other people. You fall in love with other people. Like, you're that guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. That's confusing to me. And it's very rare to find people that do that successfully. But when you do, I think it's amazing and it can be done successfully.

But it takes, like, a certain kind of person. And I think most people aren't wired that way. Well, I was just. going to say I want to ring Mark's bell for a second because you said that like it takes a very certain kind of person. Yes. I totally agree with. I cannot even tell you how much this guy checks his ego at the door when it comes to like relationship check-ins and like relationship problems. And for him to be able to like acknowledge feeling jealousy on his end or his partner's end and how to work through that. It's like it's very inspiring to see. I think you have to be that kind of person to make it work.

Like you have to be the kind of guy and woman that wants to talk about shit all the time and your relationship because stuff will come up. It doesn't matter how professionally Polly you are, right? Or non-monogamous. Sometimes the wind might blow a certain way and you're going to have a feeling out of nowhere and you have to talk about that shit if you want to be cool with each other. And to me, the only people that do it well are the ones who are talking ad nauseum about everything. So I think you'd have to be the type of guy that is very in touch with your feelings. and is very open to discussing them at all times. Oh,

1,000%. Mark, that's you? It's been a process to get there, for sure. Yeah. It's been a process to get there. Right. But look at the life you're living now, right? A lot of guys would probably wish to be able to have what you have.

It's like having your cake and eating it too. A lot of guys believe that's too good to be true, but you did some work on yourself and figured it out, learned how to let go of your ego and talk a lot. with your partners and now you kind of have the perfect setup. It's phenomenal. I mean, I think it's like in my life nowadays, like it's weird to me when I haven't had a threesome in like longer than a month and a half.

Oh my God. Wait, so now let's go back. So you realize you're non-monogamous and then you start to like go into relationships with girls like, hey, up front, I just want to let you know that I'm into non-monogamy and we could play together or whatever. I mean, like, how did that work? You know, I also have this crazy collection of sex toys. And what would start happening is I'd meet women out at bars.

I'd meet them just to start, like, we'd start figuring out if we're into dating each other. And they'd come over. We'd, like, they'd start going through my chest of sex toys. I mean, I think I have, like, 52 distinct types of sex toys. And then they'd, like, invite their friends over and they'd tell their friends about me. And next thing you know, like, we're all having three sons. and then one person starts dating me, but their friends are still interested in me.

And next thing, you know, like, people are just like passing me around. And I'm like, okay. Oh, okay. So it's not like you were on, like, okay, Cupid, looking for girlfriends and then sitting down and telling them. You were kind of in the world. Shit was going down. So a lot of these girls knew up front.

And they were also down for doing fun things, the same kind of things you were into. Honestly, so much of it was being really forward and honest about my interests. And, like, a lot of people, people will say that like sex is my side hustle or my hobby yeah that's what they'll tell me and I used to wear like vibrator necklaces and then like I get really excited when I bought new butt plugs or new vibrators and stuff and I'd be at bars and people like what did you do today I'm like I just got a new vibrator and maybe like can I come over and look at it I'm like yes and and from there it just

it kind of spiraled it wasn't even like a lifestyle thing or falling into this kind of pattern it was I would just meet strangers and sometimes they'd be their first time with it. And they'd invite their friends to come try all the toys and stuff. And next thing you know, it just kind of spirals from there. How do you identify yourself sexually? Like, are you fluid? Are you straight? Are you queer?

I mean, there's all different words you use or are you just like into chicks or you open to guys? What's your deal? I have been with the man like one and a half times in my life. And I'm just, it doesn't excite me. It's not. But I would call myself queer because I've occupied so many king spaces where there are men and women there. I don't mind tying men up. I don't mind like using riding crops or whips on them or floggers.

But I'm not I'm not interested in, you know, them going down on me, me going down on them or any kind of penetrative sex or like where I'm touching their body. It's a smell thing for me, I guess. Like I just love feminine energy in the way women smell. And then like I love some types of men and male energy in my life. But then when I get down to the nitty gritty and that fermone-based feral smell, I'm just like, no, I, you could put that on the shelf. That's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Just like it's okay if people are into it.

Like everybody is just how they are. You know what I mean? You're totally the type of person. If you were down for dudes, you'd be fucking them too, okay? because you're a very open person, right? So when you met your wife, you know, how did, like, why was she, like, constantly breaking up with you? Was it, like, seeing you with other girls?

Like, what were the issues that were happening between you guys? There's a lot of, there was a mix of fear of my non-monogamy to, I mean, and maybe you need to edit this out, but also like, I enjoy, you know, substances that are not alcohol. And that frightened my wife, too. Oh, really? Did that change? Yeah, yeah. No, no, it hasn't changed.

She's just become more understanding of, like, my harm reduction practices. And I've also gotten better at curtailing use and learning how to communicate things. like that and um she started feeling confident and comfortable and secure with the outside hookups because i spent a lot of energy making sure that she felt safe uh when we were with other people too so the the two things combined just constantly being open to working on it going to therapy together couples counseling together um and it's still not perfect but we work through it. You know,

we're committed to that, you know, or having a couple's counselor we can always return to has helped a lot. But is she a lot better at, like, dealing with stuff now, or is she still like,

because I think, like, listen, you know, and women tend to have this kind of thing inside of us. I'm a woman. I've done,

I've been there, done that. Like, we sometimes we might twist ourselves into a pretzel for a guy that we like because it's just like in our nature to make things work out, you know?

And so, uh, you know, Do you feel like she has come all this way just for you, but it's still, it's not really who she is? Or is this like a part of her and she like is at the point now that like she digs this and this is her lifestyle too and she loves it even though once in a blue moon she has a does have a problem? I would say 100%. Right. Yeah.

We, we both enjoy it. And there are still challenges within it. Like I know as we've opened up our relationship and she starts to date people, I can see this pattern that you're talking about where I, I, I, I. sometimes I'm like, I'm not sure to trust if you're being fully honest to me. Like maybe you're trying to protect my feelings about how much you like somebody else. And you're minimizing that. But then you're twisting yourself to accommodate them. And I'm watching you do that.

And that can be hard to watch sometimes. Yeah. This is how Polly gives me a headache. Like, oh my God. It's like one relationship is hard enough to navigate. But you're like navigating her with like five other guys, you with other women. How many partners do you have right now? Molly, by the way, we will be getting to your whole life story too.

Molly's in the background. Don't worry. I always leave the girl. Oh, girl. I'm not worried. Okay. I always leave the girl for last. I always leave the girl for last because I don't have a lot of guy listeners.

They like to hear from Molly. But I'm, you know, I'm teasing them with Mark. But Mark, you know, how many partners do you have? Is that what I just asked, right? And her at this point. Yeah. My uncle, my wife has like one, maybe one and a half. Like, she's at one, she regular season.

Like, she's talking to a couple of people. I have, so Monko and I together are dating one woman seriously. Our ex-girlfriend just came back into our life and we started dating her together. And then I'm also dating our ex-girlfriend on my own. I have another partner I see every two, three months. I have another partner I see about once a week to once every 14 days. So I think I'm dating like five people total. Wow.

Now, but is your wife your primary? Like, is it set up in that situation? Yes. Yes. Definitely. And I, every time I even go on a date with my partners, I tell them like, if my wife calls, I'm picking this phone up.

Right. Like, they have to know that she's first. Yes. And they're, everybody's so kind and understanding to that. I mean, um,

it's really sweet to see that. engagement in the way it is, you know? And it's, you know, with with Monko, my wife will talk about it. I'm like, hey, if somebody doesn't understand the sanctity of this relationship, then they're not for us to be in our lives in this way. Right. But let me ask you this. So do you guys, you guys obviously play together, right? Because you have some partners and some people you're dating together. So when those hookups happen, you're having three sons. Your girl, I'm assuming, is into girls? Yes, correct. Right. So you guys play with them together. Now, when she goes out with her guys and she fucks them or you go out with your girls and you fuck them,

is there any kind of like, you know, cuckold fantasies happening? Like, do either one of you like to hear those stories or is it just a separate thing that you do? I am neutral in terms of like what she does with another man. Does she like to know you were with a chick and hear the details or does she don't want to hear the details either? he like is you know we only just opened up our relationship to start dating other people at the beginning of this year after some very difficult life experiences and some very big grief happened and my wife started to feel like she was not there with me and she wanted me to still engage these naughtier parts of myself right wait so this whole time you've been with your girl you've been with her eight years total you were monogamous yes no no so when we started dating, we just dated together. And every, I think we were averaging, like, just between random hookups and then our own, like we dated someone for two and a half years together, like as a thruple.

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And every, I think we were averaging, like, just between random hookups and then our own, like, we dated someone for two and a half years. together, like as a thrumple. Oh, I love it. Okay, so you guys were doing all this, but it's the playing solo and having outside relationships without each other is what changed. That just changed like in January of this year. Oh, yeah. Okay, that makes sense that it would progress slowly like that, right?

Because it's a whole different thing, ballgame, right? Correct. Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes. And it was your wife who initiated that? Yes. Yes.

She came to me after a very big, challenging moment in her life where there was a lot of grief coming out. Yeah. And she said, I want you to go play with other people. You should see other people. And I said, this event, this challenging event, you're like, just happened. It was only two and a half months ago. Can you sit on this for another three months? And if you still feel this way, come back to me and we can talk about it.

And she came back three months later. And she's like, okay, I still kind of feel this way. And I said, all right, I'm going to tentatively start. doing this. So I started going on a few dates. And then by happenstance, because we live in Portland, Oregon, and it's a small community. And my verbal Yelp reviews, I guess, are really good. I started, I met a random person at a club who ended up having to be, ended up being my sister's friend. And I asked her out. And next thing you know, like, a month later, my wife's looking me like, holy crap, I didn't expect you to have a whole second-ass girlfriend.

from this experience. I'm like, well, it happened. And she's like, okay, well, let's figure this out. And yeah, that's, here we are. And I've slowly, the people we used to date together, I've been starting to actually date them on my own too. And she's okay with all of this?

Like, has this brought out, like, because, you know, was she okay with all this, like right from the get-go or has she had moments since this has, like, change where she's felt, like, not right about it. We've both had those moments. And when we opened it up, we immediately started with our couples counselor again. Right.

That we had worked with before. To be prepared for these things because we both knew it would come up. Yeah. And it's hard. And I put a lot of effort and fight into saying, then demanding that we both get quality time. I get demanding is the wrong word, but wanting that we both get quality time together. Not just like, hey, we spend a lot of time together because we have a household together and we're doing dishes together. It's like, no, we need just as many date nights as if I'm going out too, you know, like.

Oh, for sure. Because, you know, those date nights, I think, it gives you that, you know, feeling that you might be getting with these newer people that you need to keep in your primary relationship because you don't want those newer people on the outside to feel more exciting than your primary. You know what I mean? And that could happen. I think that's like the biggest fear in situations. like this when you are not only fucking other people but falling for them, you know, that it could become maybe like you start to think the grass is green or somewhere else, you know? 100%. And, you know, we face that even now, like we're going through it, where it's just like

Marco's still living in spaces of challenging grief. And, you know, if she's going out with somebody, it's easier for her to put a mask on or be a different way and not show all of those challenges underneath. And it's how do we maintain giving each other our best when we're both like, I'm stressed at the company I run. You know, I own a company and economic times are not fun. And our bottom line is not fun right now. And I have all these employees that I worry about.

How do I not give that to my wife all the time? Right. Because you're certainly not doing in the other relationships, right? you guys are bearing the brunt of all of that stuff is what you're saying you know i'll be honest i am so open um all my other partners get those parts of me too oh oh god your poor girl i really i don't know why people torture themselves in these kinds of relationships every time my boy would go out to like date another girl be worried does he like her more than me like and i would love my partner to go fuck another girl like i have that little cuck queen in me like i think that's hot but no way the

relationship thing i just think it's fucking torture but your girl because she also is going out with other people. And sometimes you feel jealous about that too, right? Of course, yeah. I'm committed to her growth. She's committed to my growth. Yeah. And I try and pour a lot of effort to ensure and to make sure that she understands. I love her. And we are committed to each other, to our individual growth and the relationships growth of her and I together. Yeah.

And that that is paramount in my consideration and concern for everything. And I share that with the other people I date too. Like, I can be committed to the growth here, but I am, you know, I am also, my primary energy and concern also lives here in this space. And I also have a lot of capacity. It's also what comes down to. Yeah, I can imagine. You have to.

Yeah, but a couple of dumb questions, but like I always think of these things. Like, you know, like, you know, when she's having a problem with her guy, one of her guys, or you're having an issue with one of your other relationships, that has to come about, right? Come up. Do you go to, like, her or does she come to you and you, like, give her advice or she gives you advice on how to fix the relationship? She initially started coming to me about these kinds of things, and I was like, you know what's a good resource is chat TBT and your therapist. I don't want to fucking hear it

I don't want to fix your other relationships I don't mind that they're having so obviously you don't bring them to her okay when you're having issues with these other girls right no okay and you don't want to deal with it when she is so does she go to chat cheap so you know someone told me recently that he has chat chipT down giving him therapy better than any fucking therapist he has ever had over time it really works You know, I think Manko is still learning that process. It's still sometimes like a point of gris or gristle between us, right, where she'll come to me and ask me, how do I make this message?

How do I tell somebody I don't know. I'm like, look, either talk to your therapist or go to chat, GBT or let me ask you this. Okay, I'm sorry, I got to stick up for Monko. I'm sorry, I don't care what you're going to say, but I just got to stick up for it right here. Yeah. I mean, why can't you help her with that shit? Like, why don't, like, is it just you're just lazy and you don't feel like giving her a sentence to text back to the guy? Or do you get jealous about it?

Like, why wouldn't you do that for her? Why do you make her go talk to a computer? Because when it first started. Like, what is it about that that bothers you or why you won't do that for her? I mean, it's not, it's like, it's a small ask. No, no, it's because when it first started in the dynamic of our relationship, she comes to me a lot with these kinds of things from, relationships to managing family relationships and things like that. And I try and step in and help I can. But one of the things we've realized in our inside of our eight years together is,

Monco needs to learn how to set her own boundaries. It can't be your primary go-to because it starts to eat into our time together. Right. Like she has to learn how. You're kind of helping her kind of learn how to figure these things out. Even without chat chp-t, on her own maybe, you know, to really trust her own self to figure things out and do it. Yeah. So that makes sense. I'm glad I asked because it kind of sounded like you're like an asshole. Like, why wouldn't you just help her?

You know what I mean? But because I asked the question and you explain it, it doesn't, it gives a whole different picture, you know, and I'm glad I did that because other people might have been thinking the same thing I was thinking, you know what I mean? So I'm glad that. No, that's fair. Yeah, I asked because let's get to Molly. I mean, like, I can have you on for a whole fucking hour, Mark.

Okay. I didn't even get to all the naughty things you do and everything. I was just obsessed with your Polly relationships. because it gives me a fucking headache. But it's so interesting. I really, can I finish one thing? Yes, of course.

I really want to finish the first date that I had with Monko. Oh, okay, please. Yeah. Because it was, it was like an incredible dream date. So I get set up by her brother. And we set up, I start the first week just texting Monko,

good night stories, because she was getting her master's degree, and I just finished mine. And she had trouble sleeping. So I made up a story about a frog and a kangaroo for two weeks. And I just texted her to these good night stories. And we ended up meeting for breakfast because that night I was supposed to fly to Amsterdam. And it was like my present to myself for my divorce.

And we're sitting at breakfast. And she's like, oh, why are you flying to Amsterdam? And I'm thinking she's super in a kink and she's super into like open play and all these kinds of things. I'm like, oh, I'm going to go buy myself a reverse gang thing. She's like, what? What are you talking about? Reverse gang bank. And so I'm sitting there like at this really fancy breakfast joint down the street from where we now live actually.

And explaining the dynamics of this. And she's looking at me like, who is this person? So we end breakfast. I walk her to the bus stop and we end up making out kissing at the bus stop. And I'm like, hey, let's keep walking around the neighborhood. And so we do. Now the neighborhood is called Mount Tabor in Portland, Oregon. It's very heavy with trees and there's a park next to it.

and we're sitting under this tree. It's raining in February. The ground is muddy. She's wearing this white skirt with white silk stockings and knee-high white socks. And we started making it out. And I'm like, you know what's a good idea is to just whip my dick out? Oh, my God. You're so funny.

Yeah. She just drops to her knees and like just goes down on me at the end of a driveway at the base of a tree in the neighborhood at 11 in the morning. Wow. And first date. She finishes. Yeah, first date. This is like an hour and 10 minutes into getting to know each other. She ends up, we end up finishing.

She jumps on the bus stop. And I'm like, oh, right, I'm going to go to Amsterdam now. And then I realized my flight was 10 a.m. Not 10 p.m. I changed a flight to the next day. I call Monko and I'm like, would you like to continue this date? My friend who's a Mormon is dayduting at the strip club. Would you like to go watch her with me?

Oh, my God. And she's like, okay. I get out of class at 4 p.m. And I'm like, great. I'll pick you up. So we go to the strip club to see my Mormon friend debut as a stripper. And we go to the back room with her. And the next thing you know, like, I'm making out with my friend.

And Monko's making out with my friend. And, like, there's this moment, which is very much like the Lady and the Tramp moment. But it was in between my friend's titties where we're both biting on her nipple looking at each other. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. It was like the noodle moment, but with nipples. Yeah, oh my God. And like from there, we go out dancing and then we go back to her apartment.

And I'm still thinking she's really into kink. She's really into anal. She's really into all these things. So that night, I just do the whole works for somebody that would be into these things. Like, I'm going to hold you down. I'm going to tie you down. We're going to do this real thorough rough sex. We're going to end with anal.

It's like very like, I'm going to blindfold you, all these things. and that's like our entire evening. So that's our first date. And then the next morning I fly off to Amsterdam. Wow. And you came back and she just was right there waiting for you. Well, no, she was convinced I would never call her again because I would think she was too slutty. I'm glad that we, in a weird way, I'm glad that I interrupted you and took you down our total different path.

And we ended with your hot, beautiful, first date story, you know, because you guys have come so far since then, you know, and you're deep into it now and you're doing. so many different things, but that was a great first state and a great start. I mean, you've been together eight years, so obviously it works. You know, I think probably... Oh, my God. We have so many raunchy stories. Yeah. I mean, should we?

I don't know. Should we just get into, like, raunchy stories from Mark now? Because, you know what? Like, you just said, we didn't need to get to your raunchy stories. And I don't want to fast forward through poor Molly. Like, every guy wants to hear from a woman who's, like, down for interesting things. So Molly's here. And listen, Mark, you could come back on when Molly's, you know, on and be in the background like she was.

But we're going to do my- I love to be your support team, Molly. Okay. So, Mark, I love being Molly's support team. Okay, good. But let's get your raunchy stories, Mark. Yeah. I mean, I don't know where to start.

Wait, can I start by telling my favorite raunchy stories? Yes. That's a good idea. This is why you guys are podcasters. That was a great idea. Yeah, exactly. Because I obviously, I've heard so many of Mark's, like, sexy-ass stories at this point that, like, I was trying to think of like, oh my God, what would even be my number one?

And Mark has a fantastic story about when he was young and living in the Bay Area and connected with a woman who really, really wanted to enact like a fake home invasion fan. So hot as long as everyone is really, really clear on like who is coming and when they're coming and what the fucking safe word is. Yeah, you know what that's called. That's called CNC, consent, non-consent. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, C&C is so good

But so Mark, and I'm going to let Mark tell it Because he's got all the details But this guy is so good He talks about how I want to drag you out of your apartment And take you to like the closest truck stop bathroom I can find Stick your face in the toilet Fuck you from behind And the woman's response

Yeah My leaf has a 70 mile charge on it Oh my God hilarious This is how far we can go Oh my gosh So she was the one that brought it up. She's into this. Oh, her fiancee was watching it.

Oh, my God, even better. Okay, start there. Start there. So you meet this woman. I won't say the years because they'll give away the person, but the person's name in my phone, they're still in my phone. And their name is like Margaret cum urinal. That's how she's named. I love that.

I have people in my phone like that. That's hilarious. Come urinal. We met at a pool party. and her fiance and us invited it back to the hotel and we're starting to talk about boundaries and she's like I have these

non-consent fantasies because I'm the assistant DA in San Francisco and I read about these hortications and they kind of excite me and I'm like well we could enact like a home invasion and so my wife at the time

not Monco a different one tied up her fiance and then just sat there with him like playing with his prostate and his balls while I just like put a mask on came into the house grabbed this woman held her down I ended up taking down

the little plastic you know on a blinds those like those really cheap blind sets that have like the little plastic opener and closed her eye yeah antenna I guess yeah I remember taking that down holding this woman down and just like

smacking her with it till it broke screwing her like in front of her husband or her fiance and my wife and then that whole exchange happened where I'm like I want to take you this truck stop and do do do to do so we

ended up like putting her in the trunk of relief with every like the two her fiance tied in the backseat and driving outside to this park we didn't make it to a truck stop but just like and then fucking her in a park openly but these other partners are there on the watching. They're just watching, yeah.

Wow. Yeah. Does everyone fuck afterwards? Like, are your partner's horny for this? We all did. Yeah. We ended up, no, then later that day, yeah.

We ended up staying the night at their home. And then the next morning, we d-peed my wife with the fiancee while the, you know, the woman that I just done all these things to the night before, watched and encouraged us. Well, like,

and then she's like, While I'm inside of my wife's ass and her husband, her fiance's inside of my wife's pussy, she started like licking my ass. It was like a wonderful experience. So, so the next morning we all like had this big foursome. Wow. And it was fun. Yeah.

I totally forgot about that story. I mean, because you just kind of been there. Like I said, it's my favorite for a reason. Yeah. But like DVP, DP, like your wife's down for all of that kind of stuff. Yeah. How is your reverse order? So this is my ex-wife, but now my current wife is also down for it.

Right, because you only are with girls that... My wife is still down for it. Right, because you're only with girls that do anal, right? Like, that's your thing? I mean, my stipulation is like, be open to it because I'm really good of giving it. And then when it's there, it's like you'll have that anal orgasm and you'll love it. Yeah, right? Did you ever try any kind of anal play yourself?

I like prostate massagers. Yeah, why not? Sometimes I'll get milked a little bit. But I'm more, I'm bigger on like, I really like these, like those heavy enjoyed prostate massagers. Yeah. So if somebody's going down on me, I love if they're like popping that back and forth a little bit. Yeah, of course.

Because it has like a connect to hit the prostate. I mean, do you think your girl's assholes any different than yours? Like if she's having these great orgasms, like that's what you would have too. I mean, like it's no different. That's one thing that both of us like, you know, men and women have the same. You know, so it's like, it's like great. I mean, I think, you know, most guys that say that they never went to town over there have. And, you know, the rest who have it, and it's because of the stigma, but they fucking should because it's amazing.

And, you know, on my show, I have butter wellness as a sponsor. And I'm always like, you know, I'm like on a mission to get guys into, you know, anal action. Because why not? You know, especially if you're into it for the girl, you know, if you know how to put something inside your ass, you're going to be a lot better at fucking your girl. in the ass because you got to know how to do it right okay that's how I actually got into anal plane learned how to do it to all of my partners was I was just like I really like watching it in porn when I was younger like 15 16 years old I'm like I remember my first girlfriend the first time I had it was because um she was like I dare you eat that wasabi and then you can fuck me in the ass

and I'm like okay I'll eat this entire fucking bowl of wasabi and then I did and I cried and vomited, then she's like, I guess I, I guess we're going to do this. And I'm like, great, let's do it. And I, like, fell in love. And then I'm like, how do I get better at this? Right. How do I get better? And I realize, like, if I play with, at least, like, begin with prostate massage,

you'll understand what to do. Exactly. That's what I always say. Like, so many girls out there hate anal because some guy just, like, shove their dick inside of them without any foreplay nothing. And it's like, if you were to do that to yourself, you would have known that you, that's, like, the number one thing you can't do. So like if you try it on yourself, you'll understand how to do it and get your girl to like it because it's actually really enjoyable. But a lot of guys don't understand, you know, the ones who haven't played. So I think that that's like super smart. What about your reversed orgies and all these other crazy things you've done? So I have yet to actually, well, no, you know what? There is one time where I finally had what I would call like a reverse gang bang. Oh, gangbbing. Not a reverse orgy. What was I talking about? Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But this is a really fun story. I was flying, the pandemic was just over, and we decided it would be a good time to fly to Iceland, to go to Reykjavik. And we went, I went with Monko, my wife, Ms. Tonnix, my other partner and Sub, who I've now been with for 10 years, actually, together. And so Monko and I dated Devin for two and a half years, and she just moved back to our city and we're slowly seeing what that is again. But we, at the time, we're still dating. So we all flew to Iceland together. So I'm flying to Iceland with three of my partners. And we went to this really fancy restaurant called Fish Market.

And Ms. Tonics, who is otherwise a professional dominatrix, right? So she's myself, but she's actually a professional dominatrix in her work and her line of expertise, turns to Monko because she dominates Monko quite often and was like, bring home our waitress. who's this like young beautiful Icelandic woman. Oh, wow. And Monko proceeds to hit on our waitress the same way you'd imagine like a 50-year-old recently divorced guy who's really into fishing in Cabo San Lucas is hitting on every 25-year-olds. Like kind of letcherous? Is that what you're trying to say?

Oh, my God. Incredibly like, hey, girl, when are you going to sit down and have a margarita with us? Oh, my God. You like, you're walking away. And I'm like, he's our waitress. What are you doing? That's hilarious. Especially that the woman was doing it.

That's even better. And Devin and I are sitting there looking at each other like, what is happening? Ms. Tonics is encouraging Monko. And halfway through our meal, they switch waitresses on us. Oh, I wonder why. And I was like, wow. I was like, what is? I guess this is like, yeah, she just got creeped out by us.

So then Ms. Tonics turns and like, we'll bring our new waitress home. So Monko starts doing this. same thing to the new way. And we get to the end of the meal and I'm like, I don't think this worked. And Devon's like, nah, it didn't work. And Ms. Tonics is like, no, no, no, no. I think it did here. And she takes my phone number, writes it down, then writes our address where we're staying,

which is like a three minute walk away. And then all the girls take their lipstick and then they kiss the outside of this paper. So there's all their lipstick on it. And then Devin, goes and gives it to the Somiere, I don't even know. I think that's right. I think he said it good.

I think he did good. Okay. Yeah. It says, can you give this to our waitress? And he's like, okay, I will. And then we leave. 20 minutes later, we're walking into our apartment, and I get a text message saying,

hi, you guys are like two minutes away. I just got off work. I have a bottle of wine. Oh my God, which one was it? I'm so excited for you guys. We don't know. Yeah, I know. That's so interesting. Like, you don't know which one it is. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, okay, well, you know what? We just got home and we could totally host you. And I just say, like, we can host you. Here's a picture of, you know, our front door. So you know what it looks like. Also, here's a picture of our table. Now, our apartment was on the second floor. And there was a huge window overlooking the main street on Reykjavik. And, the window with all of our dildos, all of our floggers, and if you just looked up from the floor, you'd be able to see it. Oh my God, you traveled through customs with all that shit. Oh, my God.

You will not believe the stories I have traveling through customs with the amount of dildos. This is why you guys need a podcast. And people are good, like, this is the kind of stories they hear on your podcast, right? Because this is a good. Okay, good. Okay, go on. It is. So you send the picture with all that shit on your windowsill.

Yep, yep. And then she's like, great. I'll be there in five minutes. And I'm like, okay, I don't know who you are, though, but yes, see you soon. And I get a text saying, I'm downstairs. And I'm like, great, I'll see you. I pop open the door. It's the first waitress.

Oh, okay. And was that the one? I was wondering who you, like, were hoping for, the first one, right? No, I didn't have the hope. I didn't believe any of this would work. But was she the hotter one? I was just, I'm like, thanks for inviting me to this party. Okay.

So she's the first one, and she walks into our house or our apartment, and she tells us to say, she's like, yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the so-monier gave it to Tara and our second waitress, but I saw her with it and I took it from her hands, and I said, that wasn't meant for you. Oh! It was meant for me. And I'm like, here's some wine. Can I take a shower? And we're like, yeah, there's a shower right there. She goes to take a shower. She comes out in red lingerie.

Wow. and I'm like oh okay hi and so we sit her down and we have the safety talk and we talk about boundaries and what she would like to do and she's like I'm open for anything just go for it and I'm like okay so I tie her down on a table like open like a turkey ready for like Thanksgiving dinner and then like basically Monko Devin and Ms. Tonics and I we just all take turns going off like taking her around an experience and we do this to like like from 11 in night to like four in the morning. Wow. And at the end of it, I, like, I untire, I release her. And we're sitting there. And she's like, that was the first for me. And I'm like, oh, great.

She's like, it's my birthday. So thank you for that. And I'm like, oh, great. How old are you? And she's like, I just turned 20. And I'm like, oh, fuck. What? Like, oh, okay.

That's adorable. But what? Oh, my God. Did she not look 20? yeah no no I mean it was also like I maybe it's a European culture there's so much more maturity about talking about the sex yeah and they see and they're a lot like a 20 year old like a person and not that's not American is so much more older in a sense than an American 20 year old do you know what I mean it's a big difference so that girl was like 27 it was a wild experience I was like okay I like the other day I was like looking at the other day I was like looking at the other day I was like looking at on my phone and I like stumbled on a picture where all four of them were around me with like like them like on different parts of my dick and I'm like oh my god I forgot about that I can't believe you almost forgot about that that's a good story what were we going to say mollie you know what my favorite part about

that story is the fact that behind the scenes there was a literal cat fight over who got to go home with like all these like perverted americans yeah no I mean like what's going on in that country that Like both those girls were fucking down. Okay, because here's the thing I've learned if I'm with like two women or even three. Yeah. Like, and that happens regularly, at least with two, definitely sometimes three. People look at me like, what the fuck does he have that I need to try? Oh, I see what you're saying.

And I'm just like, I don't know. You tell me. I don't know what it is. So these girls are like good wing men, but they're like good wing woman. Yeah. Because like, because I don't, I don't really know what it's like to be with me. Because if I masturbate, I'm done in like a minute and a half. And I'm like, well, that was okay.

Yeah, but oh my God, Mark, you have like a million stories. You're so fucking hilarious. I'm, like, obsessed with these stories. I love the fact that you guys started a podcast. I'm going to put a link in the podcast. You guys are going to be back on because you're going to be back on together telling Molly's story, right? We're going to get Molly's whole back to it because you guys are not a couple. Oh, yeah.

Molly has her whole own backstory. story. I mean, you two are like, uh, really close friends for a reason. You obviously do things too. We're, we're not going to give it away yet. We're going to talk all about it on your episode. But why don't you guys do me a favor and give all your shoutouts for all your stuff? I will put a link to your podcast. I think, you know, listen, uh, those two stories that you told, like, that's the kind of shit you discuss and talk about, even the poly stuff that we were talking, right? Like you talk about everything on your podcast. So I think it's like, because I think what we talked about in the beginning was super interesting too, like the Polly thing, the problems, the issues, the positives, all that kind of stuff.

Like, you guys rap about everything on your show, right? Like, all that stuff. Yes. Yeah, which is great. So give out your shout out and everything so that people could go find you and check out your podcast. Yeah, absolutely. We basically just talk about everything that's sex-related.

So there's a lot of really fun, raunchy stories. We also really delve into like the emotions and the dynamics. Yeah, I love that. Between that. Yeah. So it's candy-coated sex talks. You can find us pretty much where. wherever you listen to your podcast of choice.

We also have an email that we really invite people to write in with like questions or stories or talking points. That's smart. And I always forget what the email. Candy coded sex talk at gmail.com. Yes. Talk. Singular talk. Multiple talks for the podcast.

And we do episodes on advice too. So we have good advice and bad advice episodes. Oh, I love that. I like that. You know what you guys should do? I mean, I'm looking at your podcast because when you said you did it, um, when you didn't know about, you know, what your email is, like literally, because I've been podcasting for 11 years, it took me a really long time. I used to in the beginning have to find

people to call into my show from Craigslist because it was always a call and advice show, you know, but what I started to do was like give out my email on every episode, but not just that. Also put it in the description. You know, you should be writing in your descriptions, you know, each one. Like, send us a question. You want us to talk about whatever, like and put the email. It should be in every one of your descriptions. So then you don't, you know, mean. That'll really help you guys. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, do that. That's a professional right there. Yeah, you know, people complain, people complain sometimes about my intros and, uh, but like, listen, I have over 2600 paying people on my Patreon. How do you think I have that? Because I fucking mentioned my

Patreon on every single intro. You know what I mean? It's on every one of my descriptions. Like, that's what you have to do. No one's going to find shit or do things. How do I run my, I have, like, I get, I book, I literally tape 10 people a week. And I don't, email one person for them to be on my show. People email me and I could book 10 people a week every week and still and never have to do one bit of work for it because I say it on every intro and it's in every description. So that's going to help you guys get more of that interaction. You know, the questions, if that's what you want to do in your show is smart.

That's what we're trying to build for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the more your show gets bigger, people will just go there and they'll see that and then they'll email you. So you take questions and stuff from your, your listeners is what you're saying? Yes.

Yeah, that's great. Yeah. Like, recently as we're trying to build the audience, a lot of people come to me for advice. So I take their questions and we filter their names out and stuff and then filter some of the story a little bit or the timelines. And then, you know, we just go over, you know, the real life questions that people bring to me quite often. Yeah, I love that. So you're really talking about all different kinds of things. And, I mean, who else to do that than some guy who's kind of been there done that.

And we're going to get Molly's story. I got to figure out what she's been where and what she's done. done, you know, and I'm going to get that next. But anyway, you guys, I love you guys. I think, you know, if your podcast is as interesting as this episode, I think you got a great podcast going because you kept me entertained the whole time. I'm slightly obsessed with Mark's whole life story. I can't wait to hear Molly's.

And listen, tell me some like picks of you guys would be good together for my pageant. Okay, but book your other thing like right now, Molly. Okay, and then we'll have you guys back on together. Yes, ma'am. Thanks so much, Kathy. All right. All right. Thanks, you guys.

It was fun. Bye. Have great thing. Bye. You too. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession,

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