Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1178 - FETISH FRIDAY: Natalie aka "Denier Doll" is Into Encasement
Episode Date: July 25, 2025Natalie is totally into pantyhose encasement and she Calle din to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when she got into encasement, how she felt the first time she wor...e layers of pantyhose, how she told her mom and sister about what she and how they reacted, when she went online encased and started talking to other guys, the two colors of hose she digs wearing and the personas she becomes when she wears them, how she breathes when encased, the first time she hooked up with her bf while encased and how he reacted, the time she got him to encase himself even though he’s vanilla, how she encases herself and how many pairs of hose it takes, her Patreon and her Instagram accounts and what she does there, how she also loves cosplay and dressing up as characters and what she gets out of it, the encasement color out guys dig and the brand she uses plus a whole lot more. **BTW she's Denier Doll on both Instagram and Patreon! **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://butterwellness.com/ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order https://liferx.md Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS https://vb.health To get 10% off Drive and LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website: http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm talking to Denier doll, okay?
If you're into encasement, female encasement,
you might already know her
because she does have like a big following out there.
She's on Instagram, she has a Patreon,
she goes on to chatterbate and cams.
She also used to have a YouTube video,
but this is a girl that like stumbled upon encasement
at some point in her life
and I got really into it.
I mean, she loves being in case.
And you could tell if you look at her pictures, okay?
She is in case from head to toe.
she prefers, she talks about, you know, what kind of ho she prefers to use when she's in case. She talks about how she met her boyfriend and got him into being in case. She talks about when it became sexual for her. She eventually started camming and she talks about what she started to do on there and gives her shoutouts of where you could find all her content and everything and see picks of her. She's very into this. She's the real deal. I mean, he's not just like some content creator that's like taking one pick a day and posting it. I mean, it sounds like she's in case all the time.
really like prefers it, enjoys it, loves it. She got into other things as well. I forget the names of
them, but they're like very specific. She likes cosplay. She wears wig sometimes when she gets
dressed up. She has different characters when she's in case. It's a super interesting world that
she lives in. Her name, like I said, is Denier Dahl. But she calls herself Natalie. Denier
doll is like her name on all of her social media and stuff. But I will have links to all of her stuff
description, but anyway, I'm going to get right to it.
I'll be right back on with Natalie,
aka Danielle Danielle Danyay Dahl.
Hey, Natalie, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
I'm good, just sitting with the heat, unfortunately, but how are you?
Are you doing good?
Well, listen, Natalie, are you encased right now?
And maybe that's why you're fucking hot.
You are a girl.
I'm going to get right to it, okay?
Because my hosers, guys who like bandy hos are going to be dying to hear from you.
You are a girl that loves to be encased.
Like, that's your thing.
And now you can't encased.
You have like a Twitter or an Instagram, like you're out there as an encasement girl.
But like this is something you've been into for a while now, right?
Yes.
This is something that I kind of, it grew from like kind of like a kind of interest on YouTube to like a kind of, I don't want to say obsession, but more like something that I love to do in the meantime.
Yeah.
This is why YouTube.
This is why parents don't want their kids on YouTube because like you were kind of young.
Like first of all, you sound young now.
Let me just get a snapshot of where you're at now.
How old are you now, Natalie?
I am 27.
Okay, so you're 27.
How old were you when you're like on YouTube and you see somebody like wearing, you know, a full encase, like fully encased in nylon?
Like, how old were you?
Do you remember?
Wow.
I think that was senior of high school.
So I think it was like 18.
Yeah.
Okay.
So here you are 18 year old girl.
You see this.
And for some reason you're like curious and want to like emulate it.
Is that what it was?
Like it was like you're just Googling, right?
Like, it's not like a sexual thing in first, right? Yeah.
It's more like, I started with a mask fetish, but it was recommended to me.
You know, like, hey, you might like this.
And it said, like, panty house encasement, stark encacement. And I was like, well, that sounds kind of interesting.
Yeah, this is what, this is how people get, like, wired into crazy things because you're looking at one thing.
And then the rabbit hole takes you into something else. Like, you were literally just like looking for mask stuff.
And somehow that, that encase. And here you are, you know, fully in case probably while we're talking.
Okay. So anyway.
So, all right. So now you get to encasing, you see somebody like when you saw that first video, do you remember like what you saw? Was it just someone's head encased in panty hose?
It was this girl and she first heard like, she started off like when clothes and I'm thinking like, okay, like what is the meaning of encased?
And the pantyose encasedment. She wasn't going to wear nylon on herself. Yeah. It escalated with her putting layer upon layer over her head and then a layer on her pants. And for some reason, that kind of made me feel a little bit turned on if I'm not going to,
I'm not going to lie here.
I'm pretty straightforward.
This is strictly anonymous, even though my profiles will be set.
But yeah, no, it did turn me on.
I wanted to try it, but I also had fear because at the time, you know, I lived with my
sisters and my mom.
I still do live with my mom, but I wanted to try it so bad.
But it was more like, how am I going to bring this up if I do get caught?
So then one day in 2020, you know, fast forward to when I, after I get my first paycheck
for my job, I decided, you know what, I'm going to get the cheapest panhand
as I can find.
on eBay. So I get a two pair. So because you're now, after you see it, you decide I want to do it. Now,
do you want to put it over your head, over your whole body? Like, what was that girl doing? Oh, okay. Okay, cool.
Like, I want to put it over my arms, over my legs, over my head. I want to feel like the sensational
experiences. She looked like she was having. She was outside in the encisement. I was like, whoa.
Yeah. This girl is crazy. Like, I want to try that. So after like, fast forward a few years,
you know, after you're going to watch the encisement. Yeah, you get the three cheap pairs out.
Yeah.
And I take them out.
You know, I wait for my sisters to leave to her boyfriend,
my mom to go, like, just work.
I try on encasement and I'm just like,
this is what I've been missing.
And it's not like anger.
It's more like, holy crap.
I have been missing so much.
I understand why this lady has so many videos.
Really?
And why she does it and why she does it outside.
Yeah.
Personally, like, I started with like sheer layers,
because I didn't know how I would feel.
But I noticed that the more layers I put on,
because I started buying more panty house,
it became kind of like an addiction sort of.
And the more layers I put on,
the more good I felt.
And I mean,
that can sound weird to some people,
but I have like an anonymous fetish.
So like not being able to recognize my face,
but feeling like covered,
it excited some part of my brain that I'm like, damn.
I know what it is.
Maybe it's like because like you kind of disappear
and then you feel more.
at ease to like do stuff because it's almost like you're not doing it kind of thing is that what's
it's about it's like I have no expectations you're right so like I have no one's expecting me to do
anything and I can just do so freely in fact I was going but not not as you because you're kind
of hiding your face right like that's the whole point I prefer opaque over sheer any day sorry men
who like sheer I get it I've been talking to a number of men who tell me oh I like sheer better sorry
it's opaque it's all about the thickness the 80 denier or 100 denier is your favorite yes personally
okay go on so as time it on i just realized like wow so now um um i'm trying to like incorporate
i do incorporate it in like everyday life i actually got my boyfriend into it which is crazy
because usually people are like oh in case couples don't exist they just do it for this so that
well, when you have someone who loves you as much as mine does and who realizes that the passion
is not just something that you do for like one quick trip and you're out of here, that's when
they like really participate.
Yeah.
And I know.
Let me stop you right there.
Okay.
Let me just slow this down.
Okay.
So quick question.
You get, like, you know, let's not get to the boyfriend yet because you're like fast forward.
Okay.
You're already like deep into your thing and you're dating a guy.
Before you date this guy, you start this when you're pretty young, a bunch of years ago, right?
you're 27 now you're doing this always by yourself is it a secret life or do you start camming at that
point and posting pictures and stuff so i started doing it uh around like before i got my first job
and then i kind of wanted i kind of got tired of hiding it around and the anxiety i would feel
putting it on at night and taking it off after like an hour or so when i heard her noise because my
mom uh my mom and i are close so i came forward about it to my mom and my sisters and like hey
Yes.
You go to your mother and your sister and you say,
hey,
by the way,
I dig like encasing myself in panty house.
They didn't even know what encasing was.
Okay.
So I brought the,
I told them I was okay.
So I have this really big interest.
And it's the reason why I'm buying a watch of panty house is because I like to rip them
and make them into sort of like suits and stuff.
They were really accepting surprisingly.
But the only catch is don't do it outside of your room.
Okay.
So, so, yeah.
This point.
Is it a sexual thing yet?
Or is it still like you're just playing dress up by yourself?
So after like, maybe like, okay, to be completely straightforward,
after a few days of doing encasing,
I realized that it was also a sexual interest.
Okay.
So you were turned on by it?
Yeah, I would definitely feel turned on by it.
And it's definitely something that I'm so happy I tried out.
At first I thought it was going to be weird for me.
I thought it was just something like, oh, you know,
when you watch something and you're like,
you just don't participate in it.
But I was like, you know what?
I'm just going to go the extra mile and do that.
And so I prefer opaque encisement personally because like you said,
the anonymous factor, that stuff, like not becoming me.
Yeah, that's, it's really that too,
especially since I don't have to put on makeup,
I'm not good in makeup either.
Or I don't have to like do my hair a certain way.
Or I don't have to like wear a dress that accentuates a certain part of my curves or anything
like that.
It's like, I just cover my hair.
body and pantyhouse and there's no other expectations. It's just me. And then, and that arouses you,
like you get turned on when you were by yourself before you got this boyfriend that we're going to
bring into the picture in a second. Would you be like jerking off like in while you were encased?
I would be in, yeah, I would be like masturbating with my little tiny six inch vibrator that like
died because the batteries are dying. Right, but I mean you would, so this became like your kink.
I don't know that you should have told your mother about it, okay?
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turned on when you were by yourself before you got this boyfriend that we're going to bring
into the picture in a second. Would you be like,
like jerking off like in while you were encased?
I would be in, yeah, I would be like masturbating with my little tiny six inch vibrator that like died because the batteries are dying.
Right, but I mean you would, so this became like your kink.
I don't know that you should have told your mother about it, okay?
Because, but anyway, so you, so like you started to just like buy tons of pantyhows and you would always be encasing yourself by yourself.
But at some point, you decide to go and cam, right?
This has nothing maybe to do with the encasement.
I don't know.
When do you start camming for money?
That's probably 20.
Let me see.
So almost four years now.
So it's like...
Okay, so four years ago you started camming.
And what...
Yes.
Why did you decide to do that?
Like, what was it about?
Like, were you just looking for the money?
I needed more income to buy more panty hose and I mean, no, sorry.
No.
I needed more income because I got tired of asking my mom for money for stuff.
Okay.
So you want to cash.
You just wanted to make some money.
And you're looking for a side gig.
Okay.
You want to make some extra cash.
You decide to be a cam,
Now, what do you wind?
Is your name on Cam, Natalie?
Like, what was your name on Cam?
It's encased beauty.
Oh, encase beauty.
So you go on as an encased beauty girl, right?
You don't go on as just like a girl jerking off.
Like, you go on as the encasement person, right?
Someone who just likes to talk.
Yeah, someone who likes to talk in encasement.
Oh, I like that.
That's kind of interesting.
So that's what you're doing.
You go on Cam and you're like, I'm just going to be in case and I'm going to talk to people.
And does it turn out that, like, a lot of guys are into that?
It turns out that I'm a, what is it?
when people convert people. It's like, um, I don't know. A cult leader. I'm not a cult leader. I wish I was. I'm just
kidding. I'm just kidding. This is a joke. But no, um, some people are like, I didn't know I could
find this hot. And I was just like, well, yeah, I mean. Yeah, but did you know that guys were going to
find it hot? Like at that point? Personally, no, because I thought it was just, you know, a piece of
clothing. I mean, it's a piece of fabric that a lot of people are like, oh, it's just a piece of
fabric, but it's just so sexy. And it's like, well. But you knew that you didn't
want to do anything further, right?
Like, you were just in case, like, so you would go on cam, you would be in case and you would
just, like, turn your cam on and you were like literally the girl that's going to be case talk
to guys.
And that's what you did.
And I would do it like kind of like an anonymous kind of like podcast, sort of, you know,
but the thing is, my Instagram would be connected to it, but I'd be encased on Instagram as
well.
So people would be like, what do you look like?
What do you look like?
And I'd just leave it up to like, you know, you can, you can, you can, in your wildest dreams,
you can find out.
because it's not going to happen anytime soon.
Right. So you always stayed anonymous. No one has ever seen you. No one knows who the real Natalie is
underneath your encasement. Your face is always encased in like the not see through ho. So no one
could see you, right? On my old, on my socials like years back. Yes. Okay. But nowadays,
one of them has my face. Okay. So anyway, so some guy, okay, one of your guys who's camming with you,
so like these guys would come on and what did these guys like want to talk about to you? Like
when you were camming with these guys? Like, what was it? Like, were there? Like,
Would they just make idle chit-chat?
Would they ask you about the panty-hose?
Like, what kind of talking was going down?
I had some people ask me if I was Kim Kardashian and stuff like that.
And it's like, no.
And then I had some people ask me like, oh, like, are you just doing this because it's like something that gets people's attention?
And I was like, yeah, that'd be funny if I didn't drown in debt because of panty-hose.
But I'm happy I am.
So, yeah.
Honestly, I try to get some guys into doing it.
I'm not really sure if that worked out because...
What do you mean? Get guys into encasing themselves?
Yes, because I think it's so...
I love it when guys encased, too.
I think it's so hot.
Like, we'll get more about, like, my boyfriend later.
But, yeah, like, I think it's really hot when a guy and a girl in case.
Mm-hmm. Okay.
And so you get a big following on the cam?
Like, did you find a lot of guys, like, were actually into this whole weird thing that you were doing?
Or this, maybe not weird, but, you know, this kink?
I didn't find a lot of guys who are generally interested in it before I talked to them.
But after I talked to them, I try to like convert them into my little following and like, hey, you know, I do this kind of color.
If you want to see this next or this tomorrow, I would always aim for beige or black because beige made me feel like kind of like a faceless doll.
And black kind of made me feel like a shadow.
So those were my two most broad colors.
Yeah.
Okay.
So those were your two personas.
kind of like you created two personas. The shadow and the the doll. Yeah. Interesting. What did
you think that like did you notice that guys preferred one or over the other? I noticed that a lot of
guys prefer black, but that's probably because I put on more layers for black because I felt like
the black I had was like sheer and everything. All right. So you're you're doing this now. Let me just
ask you. Are you like encasing yourself while you're talking to like are they seeing you put
I know that you're not, you're anonymous, so you obviously have at least one on.
But do you like put extra layers just like that YouTube video that you saw back in the day?
Like do you do that kind of stuff also on cam?
Like putting them on and getting dressed and putting on more layers.
So guys could watch that.
Yes.
And no.
Like, yes, I put on like encasement, but I don't put on extra layers.
I personally, my go-to is like two on top, one on bottom.
Or if I'm feeling like it's super cold, I'll put on four on top, two on bottom.
Oh my God. How do you breathe? How do I breathe? It's very easy. And then people ask me, how do I text? It's very easy. I've been doing it for over four years now. So I mean, like, it's kind of like you kind of grow into a habit of doing it. How do you breathe? It's easy. But then again, if you also have like a fear of, what is it, there's a specific fear. Suffocating. Clustrophobic. There you go. No. I'm claustrophobic. I have it. Then you would not enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But how do you breathe?
You're not answering my question.
It's easy.
Just breathe in and out.
It's really easy.
So you're saying even though you have all these hose over your head, you could still breathe.
Like the holes in the fabric or make it breathable.
It's breathable, yes.
Okay.
And how do you text?
Text.
I just text with my paws, my nylon paws, which probably sounds really different.
But yeah.
So the touch works through the panning.
Yeah, that's interesting.
touchscreen. Yeah. Right. Because as you're camming, you got to be able to type, right? Back to guys. Yeah, on the keyboard. Yep. Yeah. Okay. So you're camming and some guy reaches out to you. Like, how do you wind up hooking up with one guy? So, that actually, uh, I did not plan to that to happen. If you mean like my boyfriend, that, that story. I didn't plan on meeting him because I told him the usual story that us cam girls tell everyone. We'll meet you one day, maybe. And then, you know, like a little.
wink. Of course. How did he get you? It was the fact that I gave him my number and we started
getting closer and then and after three months of like texting back and forth and me telling him more
about myself and my interest and stuff we met in person. Okay, but let me ask you this because so many
guys out there are talking to cam girls or they're talking to like, you know,
someone online, they're DMing like and their biggest fantasy is to get that check to like talk to
them offline, right? What did this guy do that got you to talk to him, you know, on the side?
What was it about him? Did he send you a pick and he was cute? Like, what was the deal?
It was the fact that patience, I guess, because the first two conversations I had with him through
video chat, one of them was the first one was he guessed, I guess his name for over an hour.
I mean, I'm not saying that guy should spend over an hour of tokens, but
Like just for that to happen, you know, I get it, guys.
Money is crazy, you know, financial.
But it was his patience with me.
Right.
And the fact that he accepted me for being in kids, I told him like, hey, encasement is like a really big part of my life.
Yeah.
And I really like putting on nylon.
And he was like, oh, okay, that's fine.
So I just, I told him about my fetish life because if I'm being honest, nylon and encasmen go hand to hand.
But soda's like, I am interested in like other things like Zentai.
and stuff like that, which is kind of like that on encasement,
except it's more like, you know those body suits,
those green screen body suits?
Yeah.
That's what Zentai is.
Oh, explain that.
So I would think that that's like a natural evolution, right?
Like if you're into like the encasement,
then it goes into something maybe like that.
Is that what happened?
Like then you learned about Zentai after you got into encasement and then you got
into that.
Yes, I learned about Zentai, maybe a little after encasement.
It was like recommended as a porn video.
But I didn't think of wearing it because I thought, oh, you know, this is something that I don't think I'd ever wear.
I'm like the hands the way they look.
But I gave in and I currently have like three suits.
But I'm into it as well.
Right.
Okay.
So you got into that.
Now let's go back to the boyfriend though.
You start talking him offline.
So he knows you're into encasement and everything, right?
And so when you finally meet up with him, does he, is he like turns out, is he like a hoser?
or is he a guy that has a panty hose fetish?
He is a guy that is very vanilla.
I'm going to have to be on it.
Sorry, babe.
He's very vanilla.
He hasn't tried much.
So when I'm like, hey, you know, the first time we, you know, get in bed, I'm just like,
I really want to get encased.
And he's like, go for it.
And my heart was like, oh, my gosh, all excited because, you know, I watched
in case in porn.
This is what I dreamed about.
Like, this is what I wanted to do.
Yeah.
So I got encased and that was just one of the best nights of my life.
So that first night, was he into the fact that you were going to be encased and he's going to get to fuck you that way?
He was excited if I'm being honest because it's not every day a girl comes up and says, hey, I'm going to encase.
And so like did you keep the whole thing on while you were having sex with him that first time?
Yes.
I kept the whole thing on.
The only hole or like rip there was was in the crotch area.
Okay. And how was that?
It was like every, like, I mean, I was going to say every fantasy come true, but I mean, like, I have a couple more.
But it was like a fantasy come true, if I'm being honest.
I didn't expect, like, it to be so intense because usually when I saw like the porn for like encasement, like only one of them would be in case.
And it would be like, ah, like, you see like kind of like the guy be sort of into it.
But he was really into it.
So I was like excited.
We did it again the next day.
but yeah.
And how was it for you?
Was it a turn on for you?
A big turn on.
It's a, it was, especially since he let me pick the color.
I picked wine red for my first color that I did.
Oh, how come you like, like you're into different colors?
Yeah, I have a bunch of different colors.
The reason I picked wine red was because it was opaque, like very opaque, maybe like, I think 120 den.
Mm-hmm.
And so layer that over and over, like you can't really see the face.
And also I like the, I'm slightly into BDSM, so I'm slightly into like, like the kind of restraint, I guess I could say.
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Yeah, I have a bunch of different colors.
The reason I picked wine red was because it was opaque, like very opaque, maybe like, I think 120 den.
And so layer that over and over, like you can't really see the face.
And also, I like the, I'm slightly into BDSM.
So I'm slightly into like the kind of restraint, I guess I could say.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, listen, you're being constricted when you're being in.
cased, right? There's a lot of constriction there, especially because you like the opaque. They
tend to be tighter, right? On you? Yes, tighter and more fabric, so more layers, more coverage,
if I'm being honest. Yeah, for sure. And so you like that feeling when you also like a little
pain. Yeah. I do like being tied up and everything. Okay. So after you wind up doing that first time
with it, like your guys into it? Yes. Okay. And then do you, how long you've been dating your boyfriend now?
Wow, it's been like over two years now.
Now, did you ever get him into encasing himself or wearing panty hose himself or doing anything like that?
Or is this just your thing?
So usually since my man like usually, you know, likes watching rather than participating as in like, like, in the encasement.
Like he somehow managed to convince him maybe, I think it was last year.
I was like, he put a panty hose over his head and I was like, do you like the feeling?
and he was like, uh, I guess it's kind of weird.
And I was like, okay, would I ever be able to convince you to encase for me?
Because that's one of my dreams.
And here I am, you know, it's like someone that's like begging for like a fantasy, a dream come true.
And he's like, okay, you know what?
Yeah, why not?
Okay.
So he encases in black.
And I personally, like I said earlier, I love black opaque and pannihos.
This year, I have like, not sheer, but I have like the opaque shiny kind.
Right.
So it's big enough for him because, like, I love.
usually get the biggest size. I don't like to waste pantinghows. I like to reuse them. He gets in it.
We go upstairs and I feel like I'm meeting my favorite celebrity or something because I start
fan-girling. I get straight on the bed, you know, all encased. I get super excited. And I'm like,
all right, babe, let's go. And the funny thing is he was like, all right, tell me how to do this because I can't
really see through encasement. And it dawned on me. I was like, oh, yes, I've been doing this for years.
and then for a beginner who just started,
vision problems will occur.
Like, I totally forgot about that.
Really?
Is this guy on your Instagram, your boyfriend?
The guy that's in all these pictures?
So he eventually gets really into this.
Because he's in a lot of your picks.
He actually does not.
He does not have an Instagram.
I don't.
No, no, on your Instagram.
He's on all over your Instagram.
I'm on Denier Dahl.
Okay, I'm on here now.
Okay, I have a lot more information.
than you're giving me, okay, on your Instagram.
Now I could really understand what you're fucking into.
There is a lot of picks of you fully encased and with a man who is fully in case.
That's your boyfriend.
Yes.
In all the picks.
That is my boyfriend.
There is one picture with my friend, but he's wearing a mask and he's tagged.
But every in-case guy picture you see with me, that is indeed my boyfriend.
Wow.
This is so interesting.
So you literally like sometimes you put, let me just explain what I'm seeing and people could go check you out.
You have an Instagram.
It's called Denier-Dahl.
And you also have a Patreon, right?
And we'll get to all that.
But like on your Instagram, I mean, this is like, you must have a big following because, you know, you have a lot of engagement on here.
I mean, you really, I've never seen anything like this, but you're really like fully encased.
I don't know.
How do you get like, how do you make it like a whole bodysuit thing?
How many different pairs of hose do you need to use to full?
fully encased your whole body.
So usually you need one on the bottom, but a lot of people like to use two because they don't
like the way that one pair will be a little bit see-through.
So how do you do it?
You put on one and then you put it all the way up to like underneath your boobs and then
what do you put on top?
So I usually put one on the bottom from the legs and then the other one I put,
I turn it over.
I make like kind of a slit on the left side with scissors.
And then I put one head, one of my arms through one head.
like one leg.
Yeah.
The other leg is put through my head.
And then I repeat the process, but on the other side for the second pair of pantingos.
Oh, that makes sense.
Okay, I get it.
So you cut a slit in them, right?
And you have two pairs.
One arm goes in one pair, right?
But the other leg goes over your head.
And then you do the same with the other.
So your head is double covered.
Your arms have one on each.
And then what do you put over your chest area?
Oh, I buy really the,
long ones. Like I said, I did a little, I bet I buy the biggest size available. So I make sure
that they fit all the way down. Yeah. So interesting. And how long will you stay
encased for? And you have all different colors. Usually over an hour. Wow. Interesting.
I mean, the other day was like over two hours, but that's because I fell asleep for 30 minutes,
but who's counting? Were you encased when you fell asleep? Yeah, I can fall asleep in case.
Oh my God. It's honestly, it's like therapy for me. You know, I don't have to pay for it except maybe and
Well, listen, you know what? There's a whole thing about weighted blankets, right, that make people feel
comfortable, right? Like there's something to that feeling of pressure. I know when my child was a baby,
he liked to be swaddled, you know, being really tightly, whatever. And you like, you know, I think if you get used to that
feeling of being encased and, you know, that constricted thing and you like it, like it, I get that it would have
become like a thing, right?
Yes.
Like, what does it do for you?
So it's, I personally think it's both the comfort aspect and the sexual aspect.
Right.
Sexual aspect, I do get turned on.
But the other aspect is kind of like a source of comfort as in, as I feel like I can do daily activities when I'm in case.
As long as I'm home.
As long as I'm home.
Oh, my God.
But I will go outside in the case sometimes.
I see that.
I see that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I see that.
But let me ask you this.
Does your mom, has your mom seen you encased?
Yes.
My mom has and my sisters have and a couple of my friends have.
Oh, my God.
Are they?
Do they have a million questions like I have for you?
Yes.
My mom was like, I do you like it so much.
And then when I remember one time, my mom was like, because she was zipping me up in
Zentai.
My mom was like, man, having a regular daughter is really rare nowadays.
I was like, oh, you got to have one out of three really weird.
Listen, you know what, back in my day, people had one out of three, you know, one that was crazy too, but they just didn't know about it because they were not honest. Nobody in my time would have went to their parents and been like, hey, by the way, you know, I'm into encasing myself. I think kids nowadays, they have just a very different relationship with their parents and they're much more open and their parents are cool with it. I mean, look, your mom didn't shame you, right? Or tell you you, you can't do it. She's just like, just do it at home and she's curious about it. Right?
Yeah, but you do go outside.
Personally, my mom is one of my best friends, but that doesn't mean I'm going to invite her in my room when I encase.
Oh my God.
Yeah, it's so crazy.
So your guy goes on your Instagram with you.
Would you say he's got the, like, did he be, like, did he get into it as much as you or it's still not his thing, but he does it for you?
He does it when he's with me and he sees the appeal.
Like he told me, he's like, you know, Natalie, I see the appeal of this.
I know why you love it so much, but I wouldn't do it without you.
And that's fair.
I can't.
Yeah.
But a lot of, I'm friends with a lot of people who'd like to do it on their own, which I wish they
were closer because it's so crazy.
You know, I meet people like in different countries that are like, oh, I do it.
And I'm just like, dang, I can't afford a plane ticket to do with you.
Right.
Oh, my God.
So wait.
So, okay, so you started, did you start an Onlyfans or a Patreon?
Like, what did you do after you canning?
So I have an active Patreon.
I actually make it free to join.
So when you join, you can see free sets.
It's not all the sets, but it's most of them.
I did that because I feel like I do encasement for me and to show people like I'm really into it.
I'm not going to charge you 30 bucks.
I mean, no shade, no shade to people on Patreon.
But I'm not going to, I don't feel like charging a lot of money for something that I do, that I love should be.
Well, don't you make an income from this at all in one way or another?
I do make, I do make,
sort of an income, but I'm just saying, like, most of my stuff to, that Michian is free to, like, view.
Because I don't know.
I like, I mean, I personally, also, I mean, I may be, I don't know if it's an exhibitionist,
but I do like going outside incased a lot.
And in fact, sometimes I'll go outside just in case with no clothes on and no wig.
But that's when I'm really brave.
That's when I'm super brave.
Usually, uh, I just love creating outfits.
Personally, out of like encasement, I'm a very big girl, girl.
I love wearing dresses.
So whenever I go outside, like in case, I usually throw on a wig and I throw on some clothing and I go outside.
And I just feel like, okay, who cares if people stare, you know?
People must stare.
Oh, they do.
They do.
But, you know, like this is something that I feel makes me me.
But do you still do the camming for guys?
I do.
I actually work online.
and I was going to see the site, but I don't think it really matters.
No, no, no.
Why don't you give out your information?
People listen to.
This is why, like, I like to promote people's stuff.
Like, people that are listening to you are going to want to, you know, get the content.
So how would people find you and when do you cam and where do you cam?
So I am my own boss.
I cam on chatterbait under encased beauty.
Okay.
In fact, if you search up in case to beauty, you can find videos of that on X Hamster.
Like, I've done solo videos.
I don't really do duo videos.
So for anyone that's like, oh, do you do videos with your boyfriend?
Do you post them?
No.
Okay.
Right.
I do not.
And you're not doing any kind of sex acts on there.
You're just talking, right, while you are encased, correct?
I do some sexual acts.
Oh, okay.
So if people want to know what that is, go on to chatterbate.
Now, do you just go on in different hours and they have to just check in to see if you're, like, on there?
Yes, unfortunately.
I can never stick to a schedule.
It's okay.
You're still young.
Have fun.
So but, you know, they could keep checking in.
Do you typically go like what at least once a week every day, like once a month?
I've been going like five out of seven days a week.
I usually go on for about two hours or so.
Is it typically at night or during the day?
It's during the day.
Okay, that's cool.
That's good to know.
So people could check out during the week and keep checking in during the day.
You might be on there.
And your, what's the name of it?
Beauty, nylon beauty?
And, no, in case beauty.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then your Patreon.
what do they get if they like I know that if they sign them for free they get all your picks
and stuff but what do they get if they like go deeper into your Patreon like what's the paid
I make videos. Oh okay. I make videos on Dropbox. I also do role play videos which I think is
kind of funny because a lot of people are like I love your role pay videos. I like to role play
that I'm some sort of different being like I remember I did this one thing where I'm a medication
like not really medication but you know a pretend medication actually took
turned me in case and I was like what's going on like what it's like you know fantasy kind of stuff and uh yeah
okay so yeah what kind of fantasies do guys typically like that you find oh personally i think guys
just love the fact that girls like if girls really like encasement like me and lily paw uh she's on
what's your name on patreon by the way my denier doll okay denier doll and
Okay. So they just like the fact that you're into this is what you're saying. It could be any fantasy. Right. Because there are some people who will just do it for like 10 seconds and just like you can tell they're not really into it. Right. For me it's just like I I mean I wish I could show you a picture in my room right now. But then again I wish I couldn't because of it. But I have like a tub full of nylon that's right next to me. Yeah, I want a picture of that for my Patreon. Just a pick of your stash, your Paniho's stash. Guys love that shit.
Yeah, and then I also have a lot of nylon that hasn't been opened.
I don't know if you know this brand.
You might because it's pretty common, but it's pretty a little expensive because nylon, it's not always cheap, but Cecilia de Raphael.
Yeah.
I think she said her name wrong.
CDR Super Lucidot 20s.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
I actually got interested in that because of this really big creator who, she's not online anymore, but her name is nylon cherry.
And she converted me into that.
And so did this one user online named Lily.
paw.
So I'm grateful for that because even though my credit card bills are high because of
the painting house, I'm enjoying what I do.
And I'm actually going to encase later on today.
I just got to decide what color.
And then so, and then you post that stuff on Patreon.
Like if someone like logs and like you, they could go there and that's where you go on
daily too as well.
I try posting daily.
My health has been kind of bad lately due to health issues.
but I try to post daily and if not then maybe like weekly.
And then when you started your Instagram, how did you get so big?
Did you just like go on there?
I didn't expect it to get big.
Yeah, like how did that happen?
That question is always, it's kind of hard for me to answer because I'm not good
at answering that.
I personally what I did was I posted a picture of me encased and I put hashtag, you know,
Pan has encasedment, hashtag non-enacismet, you know, stuff like that.
And then a few post later, I reached 100 followers and I was like, this is weird.
I don't know what to do with this.
Like, I guess people like what I do.
So I started sharing more and more my interest, getting more interesting, putting layers on, mixing colors, putting them like, like, maybe like doing videos where I look like I'm sleeping, which sometimes that does happen because I do fall asleep.
But I would just love the interaction I would get because at first, when you tell someone, if you tell anyone, you know, I went to putting cleaning house all over myself from head to toe.
and I do it for over an hour.
Anyone would basically look at you and be like,
do you want to go like, do you want to take a walk with me?
Like, you know, and you'd be like, no, no, no, it's nothing bad.
Like, yeah.
And people always think nylon masks equals robber.
I don't.
No, but some people nowadays, I mean, there is a whole kink community that are into that kind of stuff.
So those are your people.
I mean, at this point, you already know that there's a huge community of men out there
that are into this.
You're still dating that guy?
Yes.
And I do not shame men who do encasement.
If you do encasement,
a lot of guys are into it.
That's awesome.
I actually have a close friend named something,
something Nylon who watches you.
And he's like,
oh, he's like, you're in a podcast.
You're going to be on a podcast with her.
She's fucking awesome.
Yeah, he was on my show.
What's his name?
He's kind of handsome.
Nylon Nassore.
What?
I think.
Nylon Nisor.
It's a.
Nylon Nassau.
Hold on. Let me look at it. Yeah, it's kind of like connoisseur. Oh, nylon connoisseur. Kind of like that, but it's nylon connoisseur. Yeah, I've had, I've had some guys on that are into encasement. I mean, you know, I've heard it all. Okay. So, you know, if you like something, there's a ton of other people that like it too. I've never heard of a girl. I didn't know. I mean, like you keep mentioning, oh, this other content creator gave me panheos or turned me on to CDRs. Like, so there are other girls in your community, right? Like it's like a small world in that world.
yeah it's like a really small world because you never know when someone's like not really into it and just thought like oh i see this this is his likes but there's this one girl and she's on twitter her name is uh if you ever want to check her out her in her twitter is uh lily underscore paw zero one she has been in encaser longer than i have she actually really got me into it and she's actually a really big sweetheart this one girl that used to do it her name is uh nylon cherry she's not online and she's not online and she's actually really big sweetheart this one girl that used to do it her name is uh nil and she's not online and
anymore. But she also was like the queen of layering. Like she'd do opaque, but over opaque,
she'd do CDR. Or she'd do, um, I'm sure you've heard of these because these are very common.
She'd do, uh, Wilford over CDR, you know, like all the expensive brands and all these beautiful
hotel shots. And that's my heart was like, I want to do that one day. Yeah. You know, like, I want to,
like, do fancy hotel rooms. So now whenever I go to my boyfriend's house, he takes pictures of me
because his photos are
I think his photos are better than mine.
I just have a stinky tripod.
But he has a,
he takes like really great photos of me
where the angles and everything
because angles really matter,
I guess when you're taking photos,
you know,
you gotta get everything.
I even do cosplay while I'm encased.
I did recently,
I dressed up as Bell
from Beauty and a Beast.
Mm-hmm.
And then,
you like the whole fantasy world thing, right?
For sure.
Yeah.
I feel like in Kisman is kind of like
a fantasy world thing.
to see world escape in a way. Yeah. Yeah, you're dressing up. You are like a character, right?
You're like getting out of yourself and being somebody else, right? Like you're going into.
Yes. Yeah, it's like a form of dress up for sure. And you and you also like what is cosplay. Like,
explain what that means. Cosplay is like a form of dress up where you put wigs and like different clothes,
kind of like a character. But you can also make your own character, which I did recently where I got
in case and I just put a dress in a wig and everything. It's just,
oh sorry, it's a, it's a way to like escape the stresses of everyday life and just go into another world.
Like I wanted to go to a con.
Like my dream is to go to convention in case.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Comic-Con maybe one day.
That would be great.
I would love that.
Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
Like, what do you notice?
Last question.
Like, what do you notice that guys like the most?
Is there a color?
Is there an outfit?
Is there a character?
Yes.
Yeah.
What is it?
There is something.
I'm calling out a lot of guys here, but I get told that I need to put on sheer more.
And specifically sheer, I need to put on more CDRs more.
Guys love the shine of shiny 10 denier, 20 denier panty hose, especially when encased.
Right.
They love it.
Isn't that interesting?
I know that, too, just from talking to hosers.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
And then, but I have a friend who I'm jealous.
of her. Her name is Michaela in tights
and she just has like sheer pantyhose,
but her colors are so cool. Like,
she's got like light blue and like
sometimes like light purple and like
and like I'm thinking like how do you find these?
Like my body, I'm a BBW.
So it's kind of like, it's like, I can't find these
unfit. How do you do this? You're so lucky.
How does she do it? What did she say?
She's like, you can fit in them. I know you can.
And it's like, okay, well, I appreciate it.
Listen, I see on your Instagram, you have found so many different styles, fabrics, deniers.
Like, I see some sheer pictures with sheer stuff on you for sure.
And surprisingly, my PM, my DMs are like more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more.
When you do the sheer.
Yes.
I like sheer, too.
But it rips like a bitch.
I know.
Super gentle.
It's very true.
The sheer ones I have are actually ripped right now that I want to use today.
Yeah, you should call up Robert from shapings.com.
He's been on my show.
He's a guy based out of Canada.
He started a hosery store, which went just strictly online.
It's called shapings.com.
But what he's graded, he goes all around the world getting panty hose.
He knows everything about every fucking panty hose.
And like, if you called them up and said, hey, Robert, I need to know.
And his pantyhose are very affordable.
I mean, they're not expensive.
He's not like selling the $60 pairs of hose.
All of his stuff is very like inex.
You call him and say, hey, Robert.
I'm a BBBBW.
girl BBW girl I
I like to fully encase myself
but I need a pair of sheer hose
that is durable
the most durable shear you got
that aren't going to rip
he's gonna know the brand
because he carries every brand from
all over the world and what's
great about Robert is he'll email you back
Oh you have?
Yeah I got
CDRs but they were
I think magenta
I had two purple ones one of them I have
opened yet because I'm trying to save it for like worst uh worst case scenario but no yeah I I
love shapings personally I I buy panhills from all over the place yeah well he could just tell you like
what kind of good sheer words because listen sometimes like you know if you know guys would really like
someone you know give them a little bit more maybe you need you know and I know that you said that
they ripple up but like uh and that's why you prefer the thicker ones but maybe there is a brink like
because I feel like I've had these conversations where he really breaks it down there's probably
a brand out there that you don't know about yet that is sheer but like very sheer but yet high denyane
very like adorable that won't rip that you could encase yourself in but don't you give a shout out to
all your stuff so people could find you because you know this is a very niche thing but for a guy
that's into this kind of thing you are the girl okay so why don't you give you shout out of everything
yeah a lot of people are like a lot of people think uh that woman think that men think the men that
wear panty hose are unmanned. No, men, wear your panty hose. Like, your nylon, everything.
Yeah, like you're into it. You know, the first, I mean, I'm going to break a fun fact here. I'm
pretty sure you know this fact as well. The first time nylon and pantyhors were created were for men.
Mm-hmm. So it's like it's a universal thing and men are a lot of wear it. I personally think men
look really great when they wear it. Yeah. Like it's, like you think it's sexy.
I think it's hot. Yeah, definitely. And you like to get off like, I mean, do you have sex?
without being in case, I'm assuming you do too, right?
Yeah, but very rarely because I do love the fabrics and in case.
Oh, so you're so used to it that that's like you're always in case.
My go-to, basically, yeah.
Oh, my God, you're a crazy girl.
Give your shoutouts to everything and I'll put a link in the description.
Okay, so I am De Nier Dahl on Instagram and I'm also a Deere Dahl on X.
I know some people don't use X, but I post longer videos there.
So it's worth it, I promise.
That's for sure.
I'm also
De Nier Doll on
Patreon as well.
Oh, that's good.
That's easy to remember.
So cross the board.
And then YouTube,
I have some videos.
I know I need to post more.
A lot of people tell me on YouTube.
I'm Hesia Hosery.
She used to be an old username
before De Nier Doll,
but I kind of grew tired of that name.
In fact,
one of the names of my backup account,
if anybody finds it,
I promise they're not seeing my pictures.
It's me.
Is Natalie Nylon.
Okay, so not only now they could Google all those things,
they're still going to find your stuff out there.
And then give out the name of the place that you, Chatterbate, right?
And what is your name again on Chatterbate?
On Chatterbate and X Hamster, you can find me under encased beauty.
No underscores or anything like that.
Yeah.
Well, listen, you need to send me some encased photos,
or I could take some from your Instagram.
You have like a gazillion for my Patreon fetish Fridays people.
I'm going to post those with your episode.
I'll give you free access to my Patreon to talk to other hosers that make comments on your
episode.
I can give you a free month access.
And then I'll also give you free access to my Discord.
There's a whole hoser channel there.
And I always tell content creators or anyone that's into like, you know, feel free to advertise your stuff, post on there, do whatever you want.
I'll give you free access to my Discord too.
And I have like a lot of people on there, like over 5,000 people.
So definitely go in there.
I'll send you a free link when your episode goes up
and it should go up either this Friday or next Friday.
It was so much fun talking to you.
I think this is like a very niche thing.
Like I said,
I was so excited when I got your email because I was like,
oh, you know,
I have never had a girl on that is into this.
Obviously, like you've talked about other people who do this.
This is a thing.
This is a thing that guys are into.
My honest is going to love it.
So thank you so much for calling in and telling your story.
And do me a favor.
Send me a picture of your stash too.
Guys love that.
those kind of picks.
Not your messy room, just your stash.
Put them all in a pile.
I was just like, okay.
Keep the messy room out of it.
Don't worry.
Just take a picture of your stash.
You don't have to take it right now,
but send that to me too.
Email me everything, okay?
Awesome.
How many pictures would you want of the encasement?
Well, give me like three pictures
and then send me like a pick of your stash
if you want for Patreon.
And get me those sooner than later.
Okay, email them to me.
Okay, sounds good.
I try to do everything right away.
All right.
Awesome.
You're the best.
Thanks so much for calling in.
This was fun.
Yeah, thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye, Denier, doll.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called
Strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers, is now available, not only
in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book.
It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it.
The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.
I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show.
Like there's a hot wife story.
There's a cuck queen story.
There's a cuck story.
There's a gang being girl story.
Like I said, 17 stories.
And they're all told in the third person.
And they're all true.
I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person.
And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book.
Think like penthouse letters.
It's more direct.
It's not so over the top like erotica.
I don't really like that kind of vibe, right?
But these are true stories, 17 of them.
They're really short chapters, easy read.
You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around.
You could read the whole book.
It's available in eback format, paperback format,
and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th.
But you could pre-order it now.
And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it,
I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord,
My Discord does not disappoint, okay?
There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me, okay?
I give it to people who buy my book.
There's tons of people in there.
Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there.
You can post your own pictures and videos.
There's tons of channels.
We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.
It's a super fun place to be.
It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it.
I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord.
It's private, like I said.
All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook,
the ebook or the paperback.
Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.
That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.
And I will send you the link to Discord.
So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.
It's the strictly anonymous podcast.
