Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1181 - Tommy and his Wife Started Swinging and They Haven't Looked Back

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

Tommy and his wife started swinging and they haven’t looked back even though they’ve had some issues. Tune in to hear him discuss all the details including how and why he started swinging with his... fist bi girlfriend and what they did together and why they stopped, how he met his wife and how and when things changed for them, their trip to Key West and her experience with a couple women there and exactly what went down withy them, their first couple hook up and how and why he had issues performing, their first swinger club experience and what went down, how and why he wasn’t into hooking up with other women and how his wife felt about it, the older woman the met online and the CRAZY thing that happened to her during their hook up, the couple he also tried to hook up with the girl and how and why he walked out on the experience,  their hook up with a solo guy and exactly what went down  and what he enjoyed about it, the young guy they picked up at a casino and what went down with him, how and why it’s his wife takes the lead on finding people to hook up with, what his wife won’t allow him to do with other women, their trip to secrets in Florida and what went down there, her dvp experience, their other casino story with two women and exactly what went down,the orgy/gloryhole experience they had and exactly what went down plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of TOMMY & HIS WIFE plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://liferx.md⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Load Boost and Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee  Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to leave a naughty confession, I do have a confessions line, and you can call that number 247. It's 347, 4203579. That's 347, 4203579. I change all the voices on the confessions. I edit out any phone numbers or emails or people's, you know, real names that they use. Some of those confessions wind up on a confessions episode and the rest go on to my Patreon. So now my Patreon is a super fun place. If you're one of those people that complains about these long ass intros, if you sign up on my Patreon, you're not going to get intros in your episodes. You're also not going to get ads. You get ad free episodes, intro free episodes, and early episodes as well as Q&As that I do.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You also get all the anonymous confessions that have come into the show. You also get to see picks of mostly every single woman that's been on my show has a pick over on my Patreon. And I also have a great Discord channel. Now, my Discord channel is private. Close down. It's a not safe for work site. It's 18 plus. But if you are of age and you want to get in there, you could buy my new book that's out.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Okay, it's not out actually. You could pre-order it. Okay, it's coming out in October. The links to everything. Like my book, which is on Amazon. You can read all about it is over in the description, as well as my link to my Patreon. Now, if you're looking to get into the lifestyle, I do have a deal with SDC, and I can offer my listeners, a free trial, okay? SDC is like the world's largest adult online dating site, but you could do more on there than just date people or meet people, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:42 You can find out about all the lifestyle stuff in your area as well as get educated on the lifestyle. It's kind of like a one-stop shop. To get your free trial, you could use my code 37712 or just go to the link in the description. click on it and you're going to get your free trial. Okay, today I have on Tommy. I love Tommy. He's fucking cool. He tells a great story.
Starting point is 00:02:05 He's a good guy. He's kind of funny to me because he's like this guy that's so monogamous. And it's not like he's monogamous because he can't get chicks. He's like a, he was a hot guy that could get whoever he wanted, but he's just wired to be monogamous. But he's not monogamous. He doesn't have to be because him and his wife are totally swinging.
Starting point is 00:02:21 They're in the lifestyle. He's got so many crazy stories. But he's got a whole interesting backstory. He starts out talking about one of his first girlfriends that was by, and they kind of, by accident, wound up in the swinger world back in the day, like in the 90s. And he talks about those couple experiences, then met his wife. And they were very vanilla for, like, their whole marriage. They've been married, like, 20 years together, 25, and just started swinging just like a couple, like two and a half years ago. But they've done a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And he talks all about the buildup to that, how HRT kind of kicked it off in Key West. And once they get to Key West, all the stories start to come in. and he's got so many different great stories. He did a really good job at sort of giving me a variety. I personally love like hot stories, right? I want all of you people out there to get a couple of Woody's while you're listening to my show. But what I also like is that he also gave a couple, you know, stories where things didn't go that well between him and his wife or, you know, feelings came up, mostly on his side, which is interesting. Talks about those as well as when his wife didn't feel so right about things.
Starting point is 00:03:24 he talks like about those bumps in the road. And then he has a really hilarious story. That's kind of crazy that happened with a woman. And then like I said, he's got a bunch of hot ones. He ends. Like, we're about to end. And he's like, oh, I didn't ever told you about the orgy and glory hole experience. I'm like, okay, let's hear that one too.
Starting point is 00:03:40 So he ends with that one. Just when you think it's going to be over, he gives you another good one. They are now professional swingers and they're having a great time. Their sex life couldn't be better. Hormones played a big role in his wife sort of opening up. She's very into women now. She's really like really into everything that they're doing. Hopefully we'll get her on, but even if not, you're going to love his story. He sent me in picks. They'll be over on my Patreon. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Tommy. Hey Tommy. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you
Starting point is 00:04:13 today? I'm doing great, Kathy. Thank you so much for having me up. You are doing great because you're one of these guys. I was like, you know, married to your wife. She got on hormones and she got crazy horny like a lot of women. Yeah, right? And you entered into the lifestyle with her, but you also do have a past yourself, correct? That is correct. Yes, we do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So now is this your first wife or a second wife? It is my first wife. Okay. First and only, yep. Okay, cool. And how long you guys been married? Oh, crap. 20 years, almost.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Okay, cool. I've been together about 25. So, yep. Okay. So now, did your past start before her? Yes. In the early 90s, I had a, I had a girlfriend at the time, mid-90s, I should say, and she was by before it was cool for everyone, the girls to be, yes. So I was a rarity as well as her. So we would occasionally go to strip clubs and, you know, and all the guys I hung out with would freak out that she would even go in, et cetera. And then I bounced in bars. I worked security a lot. So I had actually worked at a trip club as well back in, you know, mid, mid to late 90s as well. And then I had a neighbor who was kind of about 10 years older than us. He was probably in his 30s at the time. And he was a little
Starting point is 00:05:33 perverted per se, but never crossed any lines. And then one day he's like, hey, me and my girlfriend are going to a party tonight. Do you and your girlfriend want to go? And I was like, sure, what kind of party is it? He goes, well, it's an alternative party. So in my head back then, I'm thinking music. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, absolutely, man. We'll go. We'll hang out for a couple hours.
Starting point is 00:05:56 If it's bad, we'll leave. So we get there and it's kind of like at a little hall. Like I don't know if you like a VFW type hall or something along those lines. Right. So we're sitting there in about a half hour. We're just drinking. People are playing music. And all of a sudden I look up and some girl comes walking out lingerie.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And I'm like, okay, that's not normal. I go, what is that? And he goes, I told you as an alternative. But the next thing I know, like within about 10 minutes, there was a bunch of girls. So there was a certain time where the girls could change into, you know, lingerie and what have you. And then, you know, within the first 20 minutes after seeing there's girls making out on the dance floor. And so it was obviously, it was, it wasn't, it wasn't called the lifestyle to my knowledge back then. But it was like a swinger party.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. So we kind of got roped into it in a sneaky way. So that is my early. Yeah. But let me ask you, how do you? like it? Did you get turned on? Did you guys do anything? We were the young ones. So we were barely 21. So we were right. You know, both attractive. I mean, like I said, I worked security and bars, worked out, work construction. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:06 I was I was kind of that guy, but you know what I mean? So yes, a lot of people were coming up to us, of course, because we were early 20s. And there was one younger couple. I don't remember, I don't think it was the very first party, but it might have been, we probably went to a total of four or five. Because eventually my buddy, he ended up started running his own. And he would invite us to them. And we went to those until something kind of crazy happened at one of them. But I guess we can get to that in a minute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 So then there was a younger couple that we had met. They were right around our age. And we kind of, the girls, you know, did their things together. They made out. And we would go off into some, like, private room at these halls so, like, no one else could watch. And then the girls would go down on each other. And they would, like, suck our dicks. But we never, like, actually had sex, like, at any of the little parties or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:07:57 She did. You just didn't. Well, yeah, I guess you can say. I meant, like, med did. Yeah. I said we. I met me and the other guy, the boyfriend or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But he would always call me the boyfriend of this younger girl. Well, she was our age at the time. And he would always want me to meet up with her. And I'm like, man, I can't do that. I'm a monogamous guy. My whole life, I've been a girlfriend. monogamous guy. I've never cheated anyone in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Right. That's just, it's never been me, you know? It's not my style. And like I said, and I bounced at bars and. You had the opportunity is what you're trying to say. There was not a single, yeah. I mean, I would turn down. My wife never believed that once we got together later.
Starting point is 00:08:38 She always thought I was like, this man whore. Yeah, it's stupid though. But like, and I have to say, like, she's not the only one. But because I always had a lot of guy, I always had girlfriends, right? but I always had a lot of guy friends too. And I always knew, like, because I had guy friends. And they're like, there really are guys that are wired to be very monogamous and have no interest in having other chicks. But I just think so many men can't understand it because they're not that way.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And so many other women have been cheated on that they don't fucking believe it. But, you know, where there's one, there are many? You're not the only monogamous guy out there. There's plenty of guys that are wired to be monogamous. Yep. But she definitely never believed me. So, I mean, and through all this, it was proven time and time again. But so getting back to that.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Well, listen, you have been, you have been gifted for your monogamy, actually, obviously, because now I'm assuming you're not monogamous, but you're allowed to be non-monogamous with your wife. Right. So it kind of like all came back to you. Yep. You know, so you go back. So you're like swinging with this guy, kind of, like going to these parties. You're in the lifestyle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They were in the lifestyle, but like I said, back that it wasn't called. I had never heard that term, per se, until my wife now and I went and first got started. So I guess we'll get to that. So anyway, we were doing these parties with them. And one party, they were doing a game where the women were in the, the men were in the chair, and the women would do dances. And this was probably like our fifth, maybe six time we've gone to one. And there ended up being a jealous wife, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:15 one of them and so my girlfriend at the time went to go do the lap dance for her husband i'm assuming might have been just boyfriend think it was husband and she got super jealous and got up because you know my girlfriend was the young attractive one with the big tits and the whole thing back then you know so she like grabbed her and it turned into this melee at a swinger party like i grabbed her husband i got this guy in a choke hold on the ground my girlfriend punched him his wife. There was beer thrown. Cops came. Cops came to a swinger party. I'm sure that's not the first. Listen, I've heard those stories before. There's been cops at other swinger parties. Yes. And so these cops are like laughing. My ex had the time and she had to go do a lie detector test because this girl said she hit her with a bottle.
Starting point is 00:11:09 All naked. The whole thing. Yeah. Well, they were topless. Us guys, you know. But I mean, just like, it's just kind of funny. You see people fighting, like, without the clothes on. You know what I mean? Absolutely. It was crazy. So that was basically the end of mine and her. Swinger.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Journey. Yeah, journey with that aspect. And then, you know, she was a cheater. So me and, you know, she was not the greatest girlfriend at the time. But when you're in your 20s, you're just like, you know, you're just in it for the sex, whatever. So we ended up breaking up. And so that, my wife and I, I had actually met. my wife through a friend. So I was still in high school, just graduated high school when I first met
Starting point is 00:11:51 my wife now. And so we had always had like a chemistry between us. Like we would see each other at parties, even when I had a girlfriend. She actually got married real young. So she was married previous to me. So there was one party we went to through like a group of friends and I went with my girlfriend. And for whatever reason, her husband at the time wasn't there. We ended up slow dancing in front of everybody. And at the time, drunk, I didn't think nothing about it. And I looked back, I was like, oh my God, I can't believe I did that. My girlfriend was there and the whole thing. And so, you know, she knew all about my past prior to even us getting together. Right. So none of it was really a big surprise to her about, you know, me being somewhat in the lifestyle back then and
Starting point is 00:12:37 my girlfriend being by at the time and so on and so forth with that aspect of it. So, you know, So I actually went to her first wedding, which is another crazy story. It was a New Year's Eve, and I was with my girlfriend that previous I was telling you about still. And I was just like, all right, I'm going to go to something different. We were fighting. I can't remember. So I went to my now wife's first wedding. And there's actually a picture of us standing there talking at her wedding.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Let me ask you this, because I always believe like guys are the pickers, you know. And on some level, they know they're the one when they see them. Like, did you always have like an interest in her when she was like hanging around like this at this point? Or because you're so monogamous, you didn't even notice her in other. No. Yeah. Absolutely had an interest in her. I mean, I always was attracted to her.
Starting point is 00:13:26 She was my type, you know. And I tell her now, I said, you know, she's always like, well, what do you give that girl? I'm like, yeah, she's like a six. And she's like, well, what am I? Go, well, you're an eight a half. So in my mind, to me, my wife is a 10. She is my perfect woman. Not only looks and physically wise, but just like, yes, everything.
Starting point is 00:13:45 She's a great person, a great human, you know, a great wife now. I mean, obviously, I didn't know that at the time. But, you know, so she's the woman. Guys don't dream of marriages and guys don't fantasize about who they're going to marry. But when you, you know, you have an idea of what you want. And my wife definitely checked all the boxes for me personally. You know, a great wife now. I mean, obviously I didn't know that at the time.
Starting point is 00:14:11 But, you know, so she's the woman. Guys don't dream of marriages and guys don't fantasize about who they're going to marry. But when you, you know, you have an idea of what you want. And my wife definitely checked all the boxes for me personally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think most guys, like, that's how they pick. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. Yeah. All right. So you go to a wedding, but eventually you wind up with her. Let's get to the point you meet her, right? She gets a divorce. I just happened to be single about six months at that point. It was a family member's birthday of hers.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So my friend, obviously, was at a bar. So we go, she's there. We start talking. She's like, great to see you again. You know, it's probably been a couple years since we've seen each other at this point. We were probably mid-20s, 25. She's a little bit older than me. So I think I was like 24 and she was, you know, a little bit older than that a year or two.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So she's like, I'm going through divorce right now and, you know, blah, blah, blah. And she's like, well, you know, here's my number calling me. I said, look, you're still married. I am not calling you. There's no way I'm doing that. So I gave her my number. I said, you want to call me? That's on you.
Starting point is 00:15:14 You call me. So we don't leave the bar within an hour. She's calling me. So the next night, she's like, you got to come over. And like I said, there was a comfort there because we had known each other for years. So we start dating. Eventually leads to marriage. Eventually leads to a couple kids.
Starting point is 00:15:32 She's now jumped to mid-40s. Right. Now, let me just ask you real quick, though, through the kids, through your men, marriage and everything. Sex was always killer. Was it great? Did it start weaning off towards the end? Like, how was your sex life when you guys were vanilla? Yeah, there was definitely ups and downs. Like when we do vacations, yes, vacations, great sex, right? You're out of town. You don't have the life burdens on you, especially if we left the kids with parents or whomever. So that was always great. At home, you're working, you're driving yourself in the ground. We're both, you know, successful
Starting point is 00:16:08 workers, we work our butts off, etc. So, yeah, at home, there was many a times where I could count like we might have once a month, twice a month at most, you know. But then we go away for a weekend and it'd be five times in a weekend type thing. So it's not like we've never, like weren't attracted to each other, but, you know, life just changes. And like I said, and the kids and it's like, and our kids came super fast. We couldn't have kids, so we went a different route. So, like, one day, one day I just have three kids at my house. Oh, no way.
Starting point is 00:16:44 So you wind up with three kids all at the same time? Were they all the same age or no? The girls are actually twins. Okay, so you got these kids and stuff, and that's always listened. I think anybody listening that's in a long-term marriage 20 years had kids could understand the ebbs and the flows and the ups and the downs and stuff. Like, that's real life, normal. It is.
Starting point is 00:17:05 That's the stuff you don't hear talk about on, you know, most podcasts and everything. But that is that is the truth of life. So as far as our sex life goes, you know, that kind of put the damper on it. But like I said, it was always good on vacations, et cetera. Right. And you guys, it never felt like distant or anything because of that. No problems. You're still, though, everything's great up until the point where she started taking hormones, right?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like you had no other issues in your marriage. Yeah. No. No. Like, I mean, we rarely even fought. Like most people fight over money. It's never been an idiot. issue for us. You know, so all those basic things, we've always been pretty solid on. Right. That's right. We've
Starting point is 00:17:40 always respected each other. We've never like gotten arguments and, you know, yelled like disrespectful things or nothing along those lines ever. So it's, uh, it's really like a pretty great marriage, to be honest. Yeah, that's great. So this is all gravy. And I think of that stuff is important going into the lifestyle anyway to have that foundation that everything's really good between each other. So I could not agree. Yeah. So take me to the point where your wife gets on hormones, I guess. Is that what happens before, right? Yes. Yep. So she starts to get, you know, middle to late 40s. I'm probably 47, 48-ish. And, you know, you've been there. The drive is gone and you just don't even think about it. And so obviously, you know, I actually, your podcast was one of the first ones I ever started listening to as far as lifestyle and like sex stuff, etc. which, you know, it was perfect.
Starting point is 00:18:37 So I heard stuff about it on there. And I was like, you know, you need to look into this. And she did. She went to her doctor. And her doctor gave her like pills of testosterone. There were like one milligram. And she tried. And they did absolutely nothing for her.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And I'm kind of along your lines of like, I started testosterone myself about 47. So I studied it. I Googled everything. I talked. to everybody that I knew that was on it and got my levels. And so I'm like, okay, I got myself back. And, you know, and through the kids, I had gotten fat. And, I mean, there was a point where I couldn't even, seriously, like, kind of just, I don't
Starting point is 00:19:20 want to say give up, but I was not as attractive as I should have been for my wife, period. Right. So diet, lost all the weight, got back into the gym over the next year and a half, two years, got back to where, you know, I'd walk in places and people were like, whoa, that, you know what I mean? So kind of that bouncer security guard feeling like I had in my 20s. So got back to that. And so she was, I said, babe, if you want me to help, you've got to take more. I'm telling you right now what your doctor's giving you is not enough.
Starting point is 00:19:53 She's not a hormone lady. She's just a doctor that probably doesn't know much about hormone replacements at all. So my wife had been, have you. Obviously, you've heard of QS, but there's a thing that's called Fantasy Fest. It's in October. It's like Halloween for adults. So my wife had been twice previous. I had never been yet.
Starting point is 00:20:13 She went once when we were together. I was supposed to go with her. I had a death in my family. I had to stay back. We were not married yet. We were still just dating and stuff. So this was early on, late 20s probably. So she had went and had a good time and showed me the pictures,
Starting point is 00:20:28 and she got body painted. and they did a toga contest and stuff like that. And her and her friend won. And she did a handstand where her toga came off. So she was naked and the whole deal. So she had, you know, done some crazy stuff. And I'm like, all right, I want to get back to this. I want to go see it for myself and have fun.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And she's like, okay, well, you know, let's book it. So about, you know, a few months out, we're both working. She had lost a lot of weight. Not a lot, but she lost weight and got, you know, really good shape and all that. because she wanted to get painted again, et cetera. So about three weeks out, she's like, babe, I, you know, I'm still not feeling. I said, all right, here's the deal. I will give you testosterone myself.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I go, I will inject it in your shoulder. And it's going to take two or three weeks before it kicks in. And it's going to hit you right before we go. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, I need to make a disclaimer right here. Disclaimer, okay? Don't ever fucking share your medication hormones, anything with anybody else. Don't listen to this guy.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Don't ever do what he did. It is not good at all. Yeah, don't. Okay, but go on. So they hear how it works out there. No, still don't. Do not let your dog, girl, go to the doctor and get a doctor that's going to dose her. But anyway, go on.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So I, about three weeks out, I started her on two shots a week. Approximately. Well, it's a very super low dose. How much? It was about 10. Point one. It'd be point one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 The smallest amount on the needle. Yeah, but how much was the milligrams? It was $200. Yeah, that's a lot. Okay, because I'll do one of 50 milligrams. You're doing one of 200 milligrams two times a week. Oh my gosh. So it was like, it was a total.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Does she have a dick now? No. Well, she's got a big click for sure. But it was always kind of big. So anyway. So I do this. And it fucking, like, it was meant to be perfect timing. By the time we got on that plane to go to Key West,
Starting point is 00:22:35 she was absolutely the horniest she's ever been in her entire life. I could imagine. She's like five times the amount. That was about two and a half per se. But we had to jumpstart it. Okay. So we get there and, you know, like on the plane, she's like, are you going to be disappointed if I don't do anything?
Starting point is 00:22:55 And she wanted to basically, she, like, I kind of always knew she was by. Like, there would be times like I'd be going down on her. But she said she had never really done anything. She thought about it. But I'd be going down on her. And I'd be like, okay, here, watch some porn. And I'd put on, like, lesbian porn. And she would come, like, in a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So I'm not a scientist, but, you know, I can figure some shit out. She should do that to you. Well. So. Anyway, not with lesbian porn with gay porn. I've always said with guys like, oh, like, what if I put it on? And then I like, I see if like you get hard when we're watching it. She would absolutely love it.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, anyway, go on. She would love if I did that. That's like one of her fantasies. But we'll get to that. Let me stay on track here. I'll forget the stories. So we get there and like I said, we had the discussion. I'm like, babe, if you don't feel comfortable doing anything, don't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm not going to be disappointed. I'm here for the party and the show. and, you know, let's just have a good time. Okay, sounds great. So the first day we get there, there's a bar, pool. It's called Dante's pool area. So it's a well-known place there. They have a big pool party.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They have like a wet t-shirt contest. Most of the girls in the pool are topless, et cetera. So we get there, we get some drinks. We get in the pool. We're hanging out for about an hour. So she's starting to drink a little. I'm drinking. This guy is over just chilling to me talking.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And this little girl walks up. and she's got one of those necklaces on where you can spell things out, you know. So she holds up her necklace and shows me. It says squirder. I go, oh, squirder. I go, okay. Right to the point. She goes, do you want to try?
Starting point is 00:24:36 And I go, oh, no. I said, I would love to. I go, but you see that one right there? I go, that's my wife. She was, that's your wife? I go, yeah, that's my wife. And she just makes a bee line for my wife, right? So I'm already, you know, four drinks and so I don't think nothing of it.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I turn my back. I keep talking to this guy. Next thing I know, my wife. my wife is carrying this girl over, like got her lifted up, like, kind of like, you know, the girl's in the water. My wife's carrying her. And she goes, she's squirting all over me when I'm fingering her. I go, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:25:04 When I'm fingering her, she said. Yeah. So my wife is fingering her in the pool and this girl's squirting. And then my wife lifts her up and says, you got to eat her pussy. I go, wow. I'm not me? And then I go, I'm not eating her. She goes, you got to do it.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I'm like, okay. So I do it. And like, you know, so we're laughing. And this guy looks at me. goes, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life, man. So, and then, you know, it just, they kind of hung out. I don't know if she actually, I don't think she actually even, like, kissed that girl or anything. But she must have enjoyed watching you because it was her idea.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Like, did she get off, like, watching you go down on the girl? Do you know? At that point, I don't know if that really did anything to her, but it definitely leads into later on in our story that, you know, she is definitely into that. Okay. Which I could have never thought of. in a million years. So that was the first thing on that trip. So we pass out that night.
Starting point is 00:25:59 The next night we go out. They do this parade. We get pretty drunk. We're supposed to change in the stuff. But we didn't end up going out. And I'm sitting there. It's about two in the morning. My wife just passed out.
Starting point is 00:26:11 We didn't go to dinner. I'm like, mine got something to eat from a store. I'm like eating fruit. And this couple walks up. And they go, hey, how you doing? And the ladies, you know, she's attractive and the normal looking guy, whatever. And the girl just, the woman just starts taking her clothes off. I'm going, well, I'm better now.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And they're kind of outside their room. And she's just getting naked outside her room. She goes, hey, are you guys in the lifestyle? And at that point, I didn't know what that word meant. I had never heard the term lifestyle because, you know, we weren't in anything yet or really knew anything about it. And I go, I don't even know what that is. And she starts telling me all about it. And they're swingers.
Starting point is 00:26:49 They're in the lifestyle. And she's like, you're totally my type. I would fuck you right now. you need to come down on the plumb like no i got my wife's passed out right here i go you know i can't do that eventually i wake my wife up after about a half hour of talking to them i say okay babe you got to get up there's this couple she's you know talking about the lifestyle and all this i go you got to at least meet them so my wife just comes out naked we go down in this pool nothing really happens when we hang out in this pool so we tell them we're not in the lifestyle and all that and so she tells us all the people
Starting point is 00:27:20 she's banging in this hotel so that was kind of our first like footstep into what the lifestyle is with these people but nothing really happened with her right next night we go out i have this shirt on it says i love eating pussy so it's a white t-shirt black leather stands out walking down the street everybody's high-five and wants to take a picture and stuff and so we're doing that we go to this bar it's an irish bar in key west that everybody that's ever been there don't know which one it is i'm going to the back to and this girl who's got this little outfit on just grabs me. She's like, oh my God, I love your shirt. I take a picture with you. I go, absolutely. Take a picture with her. Her husband takes the picture. I go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:28:01 She's like, stops me on the way back. She goes, so who are you? I go, I'm here with my wife. You know, we were sitting in another section. She's like, oh, my God, bring your wife back. I want to meet her. And I said, okay, I'll do it. So we go back. I kind of blow her off. Didn't really think twice about it, honestly. Hey, guys, you ever wish you could blow a bigger load to really impress your girl? Well, listen up because I know a supplement that's specifically designed to increase your volume, improve the taste of your sperm, and give you better orgasms. And it's called load boost by VB Health. Now listen, I know load boost works because it is the supplement that
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Starting point is 00:29:18 my code strictly for 10% off. I'm going to the bathroom and this girl who's got this little outfit on just grabs me. She's like, oh my God, I love your shirt. I take a picture with her. I go, absolutely. Take a picture with her. Her husband takes the picture. I go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:29:34 She's like, stops me on the way back. She goes, so who are you? I go, I'm here with my wife. You know, we were sitting in another section. She's like, oh, my God, bring your wife back. I want to meet her. And I said, okay, I'll do it. So we go back.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I kind of blow her off. Didn't really think twice about it, obviously. Go back to the bathroom again, about 20 minutes there. she gets mad at me. You said you were bringing your wife back. I said, okay, I promise I'll do it. Go get my wife, come back, me, and I'm. She's like, oh, my God, she's so hot.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I can't. I told you, I go, what do you think I'd be with an ugly person? So they're laughing. They start getting along. So my wife wants to move up there. I go to pay our bill. As I'm paying the bill for the section we're in, I turn around, my wife and this girl are making out.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I go, okay, I'm missing out on all this. I'm trying to hurry this poor guy have to pay, you know, so we can move to this other section. we get up there my wife is like under the table kind of like licking on like her pussy but it's kind of like through the thing so i'm talking to her her boyfriend or husband and uh he's like we got to get him out of here so there was like a couple more like the girls were making out then we did like a triple kiss with each guy and stuff and at this point you know other than that pool thing my wife i think it's the first girl she ever actually kissed okay because she didn't miss that girl so as we're leaving we'll go
Starting point is 00:30:46 back to their car, they're going to drive back to our Airbnb's slash whatever house we're staying in. So, the girls are in the backseat guys are in the front. And then this woman, I'm not, I'll just call it this girl. She, I'm not going to give her a name. So she basically attacks my wife in the back seat. Next thing I know, my wife's feet, it's like a little Honda. My wife's feet are on the roof. Her legs are spread apart.
Starting point is 00:31:09 This girl's like finger in her, pulls her finger out, puts it in my mouth in the front seat. she starts eating her pussy and like holy shit and it's dark so i grab my phone i go dude i'm not filming but i need to see this so i need my flashlight so i turn my light on my phone so i can see it and yeah they they were they're going to town on each other back there we get back to our place carry the girls up to the rooms they went at it for about a half hour you know it's mostly just girl on girl us guys kind of you know because we had not talked about rules about for doing anything or or really nothing at that point. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So me being who I am, there was no way I was touching this girl without, you know, my wife saying it was okay prior because we had been drinking and everything. But so, yeah, they did their thing. They kind of, you know, got each other off or whatever. And me and her husband were cool with not doing anything. And we go down to the pool, all four of us naked. And the couple that the night before we were telling we weren't in the lifestyle and didn't know nothing about it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 We're actually in there. So now it looks like we lied to them and that we are in the lifestyle and the whole deal. And so they were kind of had like an attitude about it. And we were like, whatever. So then the girls are going out in the pool again. This other couple is fucking in the pool. And, you know, so that was kind of about a half hour of all that. And that nothing really happened else other than that.
Starting point is 00:32:36 They ended up going back and we became friends with them. And after we left Key West about. I'd say about a month after or so, we got their phone numbers and we connected and they came up to where we live. And I want to say it was December. So the whole thing was October. So this was two months after. This couple that we had met that my wife pulled around with the woman and all that. They come see us.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And we decide, okay, we'll meet them and we'll, you know, made our rules basically. And so it gets down to it. We start falling around. And my wife kind of like just jumps in like 100 miles an hour. I was kind of shocked. Like she's on the guy. They're 69 and I'm just standing there and like my dick wouldn't get hard. And because I was like not expecting it to be that easy for her.
Starting point is 00:33:24 So I was like, oh. Were you upset or jealous or anything like that? No, I wasn't jealous. I guess. No, I was. I guess so maybe, yeah, I was a little jealous because it was a lot of things that I wanted. And they were doing with him. They had obviously been in the lifestyle longer than us.
Starting point is 00:33:38 So, you know, it was kind of normal. But I guess it was a little jealousy. So I had a little bit of a problem with it at first. And I guess it was just because, like, she just never looked back to see if I was even okay. You know what I mean? Like, she didn't care if I was in the room. And I'm just like, what the fuck? I could have left.
Starting point is 00:33:53 You wouldn't even have known the difference, you know? Yeah, well, what do you expect when you'd give her all that testosterone? She's like a guy now, more of a guy than you. Pretty much. You're right. Yeah, you're right. So anyway, it turned out to be an okay night. Obviously, my dick didn't work and all that.
Starting point is 00:34:09 So we planned again the next night. They were going to come to our house this time. They come to our house, we did the hot tub, we bring the girl in. She lays on the table. We basically make her like a treat tray or whatever. Put like fruit on her, chocolate syrup and stuff like that. And so we're all, you know, taking it off of her, licking her. I'm going down on her.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Husbands filming it all. My wife is going down on her. And we did parallel sex that night. We did not do a full swap. The girls, you know, the girls played with each other and stuff. but my wife may have sucked his dick i don't remember but there was no full swap 100% i know that didn't happen so that was better it was a good time etc and so then after that i'll try to like i said speed this up first thing after that we go to a a club a local club of ours a swinger club first
Starting point is 00:35:01 time there we had met another couple previous just for drinks and they're like all right we're going to be there so we'll meet you guys there so we go meet them hang out get the lay of the club, end up in a room with that couple that we had met, super hot girl, you know, little, nice tits, great ass. Same thing. Wife goes down. The girls are all doing stuff. Her husband has sex with her.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I never took my pants off, but I was like finger on my wife. And she starts squirting all over the place, which she was never a squirter until, like, maybe like a little bit before that. Um, his first time with it. So this guy, the other husband starts freaking out. And he grabs his wife. And he's like, you shoves her face down there and goes, get in there. So I'm just like, all right.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So I'm like, okay. And so, you know, we did that. And there was no full swap there either. So that was kind of, that's kind of the journey. Like it took me a long time to get into the point where I would actually even have sex with another girl. So when you asked my wife, liked it, she was getting, she would start getting a little upset at me that I wouldn't have sex with these girls. Because we were meeting people and going out, we did a hotel takeover. And there was, you know, she'd play with the girls.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And I'm just like, I wasn't really interested because like I didn't want to cross no lines. I didn't feel comfortable with other women. I had been with my wife only for 20 years plus. And I'm assuming that like seeing her with all these girls and doing all this stuff is like a whole new thing. And that's like super hot. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:34 So like it's like you kind of have like a lot. Now you have even more. and you were happy before just with her. Now you have even more. So, like, what do you need another chick for? Yeah, it was super hot. Yeah. And the sex that we were having after which you hear all the time was incredible.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Right. Like, absolutely insane. We would have sex for hours. Literally. She had never previously had, like, internal orgasms. Now she can have, like, 10 in the night. Wow. So I've kind of, like, become, she calls me a pleasure, Dom, which,
Starting point is 00:37:08 I don't know what that really means, but I get off on giving the other women the pleasure, you know what I'm saying? So that's kind of my thing. And I have never finished with another woman yet at all. There was one time, a unicorn girl we had met, we were seeing her on and off, and I jerked off while my wife was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:28 going kind of down on me, and that girl was like putting her pussy in my face and tits and stuff. I was like finger in her ass, and I jerked off and got off that way. But other than that, it's always I just, I get off with my wife and I do have a hard time and it takes me forever. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I guess that's just wired weird or something along the lines. But yeah, so I have never got off with another woman yet. But she loves recording and watching me have sex with these women. And so she does get off. When was your first time you had sex with another woman? Because we're hearing about all your wife's first. Okay. So here's this story.
Starting point is 00:38:01 So I've kind of always been into older women. Mm-hmm. So we find this older woman on one of the, I don't know if it was SDC or one of those. And what's older to you? She said she was 59, but she was definitely older than that. She was definitely over. She was probably like mid-60s.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Okay. So we meet her at this nice bar restaurant, have a drink or two, have a little appetizer and all that. Take her back up in the room. And she literally had two glasses of wine when we were there. So, and she had a great body. I was just going to say, was she what you were looking for for an older woman? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Okay. Yep. She was, you know, I felt confident with her and all that. So she had great kids or great ass, you know, we're kind of doing all the free stuff. And my wife's sucking my dick. And this lady was doing it. So my dick got hard. And I put a condom on.
Starting point is 00:38:52 And my wife is basically, she's laying down. My wife's sitting on her face. And I'm, you know, I'm down, started having sex with her. We were probably going at like five minutes. And she's going harder. So I start to go fuck her harder and harder. and then all of a sudden I looked down and there's something on the bed. And I go, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:39:11 And I stand up. I go, that's it. We're done. My wife goes, what's wrong? And she goes, is that blood? I go, nope, that's not blood. So I was fucking her so hard. She basically shit the bed.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And I'm like, this is the worst sexual experience. I might have to believe that out. I've never heard of that. Is that because she's old and that could happen? Like what happened? I don't know. It was just normal sex. I mean, so many people have been fucked really hard.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I have girls on my show that have had two dicks inside of them at one time. Okay. And they never pooped. What the fuck? I don't know. But I stood up and I go, that is it. We are done. She must have been horrified.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I don't. And then she just was like, oh, my God, what did I do? And I'm like, what do you mean? What did you do? So, yeah. So, and so needless to say, I was slightly scarred. story I've ever heard. My wife loves telling that story.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I'm like, oh my God, are you serious? You've got to tell everybody. Yeah, but she should be scared. Us women should be scared. Like, is that what happens when you're like almost 70? You can't even feel your asshole or something? That like you could just like, like it just happens without you even knowing because what the fuck? It was absolutely disgusting.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I could not believe it. So I instantly just walk off. I go right in the shower. I don't think anything even got on me, but I just had to shower like right then and there. And then this lady's like, you know, she gets in the sun and she like crawls in the bed. like she's going to stagger what are you doing i go no no no you're out of here you got to go she's you're kicking me out i said yeah you got to go so like i said she only had two drinks and i don't know if she drank a ton before that but i wouldn't let her drive home yeah so i had
Starting point is 00:40:49 i drove her all the way like 45 minutes oh wow where she lives dropped her off so but yeah so that was the first time and i told my wife i go look this is why i don't want to have sex with anybody but you so yeah but that's like it's kind of funny though that for a poor guy like you that doesn't want to do it and then he has this experience that like it's so rare that that would happen to everyone it's kind of like funny that it happened to you because the chances of that ever happening to you and again and your whole life is like zero okay like sorry doesn't that's like not normal and my poor wife is like cleaning the sheets because she's worried about the hotel people so needless to say that was not a very good
Starting point is 00:41:32 first time of me was another woman. Of course. But you didn't jump off. Like you got back on the horse, right? Yeah. So we, chronologically, I can't remember exactly after that. We did a hotel party. Nothing really happened there.
Starting point is 00:41:44 A couple other clubs stuff. We met another couple at a club. This one didn't end so well. It was a young, super young girl. Guy was about our age, late 40s or so. We meet them. We go in the back room. We're all playing.
Starting point is 00:42:00 They're having sex. I kind of had sex with a girl I kind of just did it because and then like they kept going at it and I'm like all right you know I think we need a break and they're well oh yeah we have a break and my wife once she starts going it's like a race and she doesn't stop
Starting point is 00:42:15 so she hits the finish line per se and so I don't think she got the hints that I was like okay we should because the vibe wasn't there for me you know right so I was like okay has anybody seen my boots I start getting dressed and she and this girl are still 69 and stuff and I'm like okay
Starting point is 00:42:31 babe, I think we need a break. And then finally, I just left the room. And I'm like, okay, I walked out, which is probably not a good idea on my part. So I'm sitting out at the club. Music's going. I'm having a few drinks. It's like 10 minutes. It's finally I walked back in.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And she's still having sex with this girl and this guy. The guy wasn't actually having sex with her. And so I walk in over there, I go, okay, I go, she's fucking done right fucking now. And in my mind, I almost left without her. I was a believer ass at that club. So, and then, you know, she felt horrible. Of course. I didn't even realize.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And, you know, so that was kind of the only down per se we've had in the lifestyle thing. So I figured I put that one in there. Listen, I've heard that story, that story right there. I've heard that before, whether it's happening for the woman or for the man. And I think those stories, I like that you throw it in there because, you know, people need to know that no matter how, like, secure you are with your partner and things are really good and how long you've been, you know, swinging for whatever. This kind of stuff can happen and you just because.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And, you know, it's like, that's real life. And, but it is, I'm only laughing because I could just imagine how you're feeling. I would be the same way if I'm in that mood when you come back and she's still banging him. I mean, she must have been like, holy shit, I'm so sorry, right? Because she's not even like, you're both like in two different worlds at that point. She said she didn't even know I was not in the room anymore really. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And to her, it probably felt like two minutes. you know, probably felt like two minutes. Yeah. So like I said, we worked through it. I got, I was pissed off for a few days. And it's like, okay, I get it. I understand. You know, let's just, let's just move on.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And I'm sure your life was so apologetic. It felt so bad. And that's what it's all about. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So, so I wanted to do like single guy. I wanted her to go to the single guy.
Starting point is 00:44:22 She really says, you know, she has not much interest in being with other men and stuff like that. So I'm like, okay, I get it. But, you know, I want you to do it for me. So we meet a single guy one time. He just happened to be like the guy like showed up, you know, because single guys flake a lot. They say they're going to be, you know, et cetera, pretty standard for the lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So he shows up. We go back to a room. And so it's just me, her and this guy. She does double blow job. He has sex with her with a condom and all that. Like I said, it's hard for me to come, period.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So it takes me forever. So he came pretty fast. I'd say with like five or ten minutes. So she liked that. and then he takes it off and he's kind of like we're just talking and I'm like can you go again he's like I think I can so I'm like well let's do it man and so yeah he has sex with her again she she sucks his dick to get him hard and he puts on another condom and so he comes again and so that was really good she had a good night doing all that you enjoy that as much as seeing her with checks okay
Starting point is 00:45:24 I do I loved watching it like I filmed it going in and all that stuff like like that. So I really enjoyed seeing her with other guys. I kind of get to sit back and like she's my favorite porn star like a lot of people have said, you know, so I get to sit back and watch her because when you're actually the one having sex, you don't get that view. So to me, it's super hot to see her with women, men, you know, men, women together. I want her to be a couple's unicorn. She hasn't done that yet. I've told her we've both, you know, she's giving me hall passes to do things when I've gone to Vegas. I've never done anything without her. I just don't feel comfortable. So it's not really my thing. And the same. I've told her, if you find somebody, because she travels a lot for work, so I'll always be
Starting point is 00:46:08 like any hot guys. And it's always like the waiters and shit that flirt with her. So I'm like, okay, well, does she do anything? And she knows she doesn't. So she said like maybe she would do a single girl, you know, alone without me. I'm like, whenever you're ready, you know, I'm fine with it. I don't have to be there. I don't have to be looking over your shoulder, et cetera. So then we go to a casino one night, local one. There's a young guy there playing cards and talking to him. He's military 24. He's a mixed guy.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Super nice, respectful, really built abs. And we're just talking. So I asked him, I said, so like, what are you just? And he's like, yeah, I'm single, man. You know, it's hard to find girls. And so I show him a picture of my wife. I go, what do you think of her? He goes, God damn, she's smoking hot, man.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I said, okay. I said, well, give me a second. So I text my wife and I asked her. She's like, well, we'll meet him for a drink. So we go to another area. We have a drink. They kind of hit it off. I'm like, all right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:47:08 So we go back to our room. And he's been drinking, but he's not drunk. But long story short, she's sucking his dick. And we're having sex, but he's having a hard time staying hard. And I'm like, God damn, bro, you're 24. You should be, you know, you should be like no problem with this. Yeah, but I think it's very. loaded for, remember when you were like in the swingers club at 20 something?
Starting point is 00:47:31 I mean, like, this is a young guy and he's like fucking some guy's wife. Like he's probably like, what the fuck is going on? It's hard to like lose yourself. I think it might be very intimidating for somebody that age. Yeah. And, you know, he had said he had like an eight inch dick. And so that's a little bit bigger than mine, which is what I wanted. Of course, like most men, I wanted to see her with a bigger dick and all that.
Starting point is 00:47:52 So like I said, it goes back, but he can't keep it hard. in but I mean we had fun she was doing what I call it spit roast with both of us she was sucking his she loves like sucking a dick while someone's having sex with her or eating her out and then that makes her come fast so I was having sex with her while she was like kind of sucking his dick laying down on her back and she had multiple you know internal orgasms or whatever she does like the clitoral ones better she says so you know but she has those so that was a good night we never met him again, but I did give him her phone number. So he texts her every now and then and she'll send him some sexy picks and stuff. Like I said, he's a military guy. So he's overseas right now and stuff like that. So that one worked out well, you know, as well. And then we've had some other ones in between with like some unicorn girls we've picked up.
Starting point is 00:48:46 She makes a Tinder account for me and she controls the whole thing. She talks to these girls. I don't even have it on my phone. I'm not a big textor or. getting on these sites 90% of the time it's her. Yeah, I love that. You guys make a good pair. Because you know, it's always somebody takes the lead so you guys are a good pairing, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:06 I feel so, yeah. So she's definitely the leader of setting the things up. So does she, let me ask you this real quick because it sounds like you had, you're the one that, you know, when there has been bums in the road, it's kind of like you, you know, feeling a little bit weirded out. Has she ever felt any kind of weirded out or no, because you're to, not even with the other women anyway. Yeah, no, there's been a few occasions where she's had a little bit of trouble with some stuff. Like a kissing. She's not a big fan of me kissing other girls.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Okay. And to me, it's kind of, it's intimate, but it's not like the biggest deal. So in my mind, I forget sometimes and that we'll kiss. I mean, and that's not even like a big deal. It's just a little thing that she doesn't care for as much. So I try to, you know, not do that. And all the girls, they want to kiss. It's kind of like a thing.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And I'm just like, eh, really not my thing. You know, so I kind of stop them when I can. And then there's been a couple other little things, but nothing major, you know, like no cuddling or stuff like that after. So she's more into the women anyway. So she has this knack of taking straight women. Oh, yeah. She kisses the girl. See, she kisses them.
Starting point is 00:50:15 It doesn't mean anything. And we've met a few straight women that she's turned them, not straight. Secrets in Florida, we've been there a few times. I'm sure you've heard of it. No, I haven't. Secrets in Florida. Yeah, you've had. people talk about it. Yeah, it's a lifestyle. Like, it used to be an old hotel. They turned it into condos,
Starting point is 00:50:31 and they run it out. It's a big pool area. And it's a big swinger place, yeah. So we've gone there a few times, which, you know, we've enjoyed. There was a couple there. They're just kind of like nudists or whatever. The girl was straight. The husband really didn't do anything. So the guy came up to me, starts talking to me about tattoos and whatnot. And I'm like, I ask him that the stuff, they're like, no, we don't really do anything. My wife's straight. And, you know, she's just time with like one other guy. I'm like, okay, it's cool. I respect it. So somehow my wife meets him like 15 minutes later, next thing I know, my wife's got this chick on the side of the pool, and she's going down on her. I'm like, wait a minute, this guy just told me 10 minutes ago that
Starting point is 00:51:09 her wife was straight, and she don't do anything with women. So somehow my wife got in there manipulated her or whatever to let her go down on her. And so then they got her husband up, and they were kind of giving them a double blow job. And I'm just sitting back like, okay, great, have a good time. So we had talked to them for a while, but that's kind of what ended with them. She's done DVP with a single guy. We tried that. She loved it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It was the guy we had been with previous and met up with him again. And she had brought it up. And I asked her, did you want to try? And she said, yeah. So we did it. And she liked it. It's a little hard. It was a lot harder than I thought would be, to be honest with you, to get them both in there.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Of course. But yeah, we got it. And he wasn't the hardest when he was on the bottom. So we had to switch. And once he got on the top, per se, we got it in there. And she did it. And yeah, she squared it. So she loved that.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And then we kind of went and did some other stuff. And then she's like, can we do DVP again? And I was like, absolutely. Let's do it if you want to do it. So we did it again that same night. And yeah, she loved it. We have not done a DP yet. I don't think that will ever happen with her.
Starting point is 00:52:19 It's not really your thing. It's okay. She's got a lot of things. You don't need any more things. I'm not a big anal guy, you know, so. Yeah, yeah. So another story, we go to the casino again, and this two girls were having a birthday. I just happened to sit down next to one.
Starting point is 00:52:34 She goes, hey, we're here from whichever state. And I said, well, that's cool. We're just talking. And she goes, she was 25, and it was her friend's birthday who was turning 21. She had just turned 21. It was her friend's birthday. So we buy them a shot. My wife starts working her magic.
Starting point is 00:52:51 The girl comes over to me. She says, look, I'm. into it, but my friend over there, she's a lesbian and she doesn't do guys at all, and she's not interested in men. And at this point, I had no idea, like, anything was being discussed about any type of sex or anything. So my wife's up there buying shots, talking to these girls about this, and I'm clueless sitting back there. So within 15 minutes of my wife doing shots with them, next thing we know, they say they're okay with it, and we're going back to our room. So it's me, my wife, a 21 and a 25-year-old girl.
Starting point is 00:53:24 We go back to the room, and the girls all get in the shower, they take a shower, they all start doing their thing. And so my wife calls me over. Start getting a blow job from the one girl who's 25-year-old, because the other one supposedly doesn't like men at all, et cetera. So I'm getting a double blow job. My dick's hard. I put a condom on.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I started having sex with the one girl, and my wife is kind of like doing things with the girl who's supposedly just a lesbian. And so at some point, this girl who's 21 that's never been with a guy, she wants me to fuck her. And I'm like, are you serious? And she's like, yep. And I said, okay, because she heard her friend, her friend's coming. And she's telling me to pound her harder. And so, you know, I'm doing that.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And she was on the other bed with my wife. And then so I'm like, okay, like, well, what do you want? Because I've never been with a virgin or anything like that. So put a new condom on, start putting it in. And so, yeah, I'm having sex with her. She's loving it. She's, like, going crazy. And my wife's going, see, I told you, see, I told you.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And the girl's like, oh, my God. And so, you know, she flips over. My wife's sitting on her face. I'm having sex with her. I can only put it about halfway in, though, with her. Like, she couldn't really take the whole thing. I was starting to hurt. I could tell her a little bit how she was pulling back and kind of like stopping me a little bit and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:54:49 But so then her friends like, well, I want some more dick. So they're kind of like going back and forth about it. I'm like, listen, I'm not 25 girls. I go, I'm like an older guy. Only you. Yeah, I'm getting a little worn out here. I'm just like, it's been like an hour and a half at this point, you know. And I'm like having sex with one, then the other of my wife.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Oh, my God. That is a lot of work. Yeah. So anyway, it was, you know, it ended up being a great night. And the one girl goes, this is the best birthday I ever had in my life. And I'm like, oh, do you thank my wife for that? So that was another good story as far as that goes. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Does your wife know you're calling in and would she call in? Yes. I've asked her. Yeah, she 100% knows. She knows I'm calling. It was her idea to call in. She's like, oh, I don't think so. I'm worried.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I'm like, what are. She's one of those. So many more stories. Yes. She's worried. Yeah, but I would so change her voice and you would, she would never. No one would. I wouldn't ask her any, like, you know, identify.
Starting point is 00:55:49 information, you know. But let me, let me ask you this, though I need to know, okay, because we did have a mention of you dosing her with your fucking testosterone. I would hope at some point in this story, this wasn't an HRT story, that you did go to like a regular doctor and she started getting dosed by somebody regular and like she's on the hormones through her, a doctor, not you? Yes, she's on an estrogen patch and progesterone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:17 She actually is you doing the, um, I guess it would be like a testosterone cream that you put inside you. So that's what she's doing. Yeah. Okay. Are you still injecting her? No. No, no.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Okay. No. No, that was just the kickstarter. Yeah. And I mean, there was times where she couldn't like not touch herself. We were coming home, driving in a car. And she's like, I got to play with myself right now. I'm like, oh yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Do it. Let's go. So she would do that in the cars. But yeah, there is a, there are definitely more. more stories. But yeah, so I mean, I know I don't want to go over or whatever. So it's up to you. Yeah. No, listen, you have so many good stories already with all of this. Like seriously, it's not like your episode was devoid, you know, like you. And what I like about it is, is you gave some super hot ones. He gave own funny ones, you know, difficult ones. Like, I think
Starting point is 00:57:13 you gave a really great, like, overall view of your guys' stories. and your marriage and your journey into the lifestyle, which I think is super important. And I like the way you told the story. Like, I mean, you could just start giving one hot story after another. But what I like more so that you did was you just painted a really great picture of like everything, you know, which I think is important. That's what I was trying to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Because there was like an orgy story at a club. You could tell. Glory hole the same night. Oh, my God. End with that story. Okay. And then we'll like a bite. Everyone get, I'm going to give you an extra 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Tell your orgy glory hole story. All right, here it is. So we go to this, another local club to where we live. There is two couples sitting down. The one we know is back to the very first couple that we met and played with at the club, a different club the very first time where she squared in the guy shoved her head on. So they just happened to be there, hadn't seen them in like a year. So we're hitting it off with them.
Starting point is 00:58:09 They have a glory hole at this club area. And none of the girls had ever done it, but they, you know, they just don't want like a weird guy doing it. So I'm like, okay, my wife and I are like, all right, well, let's do it. You know, you three girls go behind and us three guys will, you know, wait out and we'll make sure no one else gets in there. And so first guy goes up, all three girls, you know, did this, sucked his dick a little bit and all that.
Starting point is 00:58:32 The next husband goes up. They do it. And as I'm waiting, this other girl is like, what are you guys doing? I'm, you know, so I explained to her. And she's like, oh, my God, that's so crazy. I'm like, well, where's your man? He's like, she's like, well, he's having sex with another girl in that room over there. And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:48 well, do you want to do it? And she's like, no, no, I got to wait for him. I said, okay. So I go up, they all three, you know, suck my dick and stuff. This is probably a half hour total. It was really great. So there's three girls back there. I was three guys.
Starting point is 00:59:00 The girls come out. My wife starts talking to this other girl. And so she's like, well, we're with this other couple here. So my wife brings me over there. And then they have this gyneological chair room at this club. So it's kind of like a private room. You can pull the sheet, whatever. So now there is.
Starting point is 00:59:18 six of us because the other two couple that we're doing the glory hole with went and basically we're getting ready to leave after that so we go and meet these other two so there's six total three couples we go into this gynecological chair room and my wife starts going down on the one girl and she's got the girl in the chair her legs are spread up in the whatever you call where your legs go she's going down on her and she looks over to me she goes do you want to come fuck her i go well is it okay with you know so she's like yes so put a condom on i'm having sex with her and my wife is kind of like bent over like sucking her tits and stuff and this girl's husband looks at me and she he goes well what about me i said do you
Starting point is 01:00:01 have a condom he goes yeah i said well absolutely go ahead i've never seen a man try to get a condom on his dick so fast in my life it was how funny as all could be because he couldn't wait to fuck my wife so he's putting it on as fast as he can so she's having he's having sex with my wife i'm having sex with his the other couple his his girlfriend this other couple there she's sucking his dick and the guy's kind of standing there but he says he never does anything and so my wife starts sucking that guy's dick with the other girl and me and this other girl are just watching i had already stopped fucking her and she's like because she never saw her husband do anything so she was watching him get his sick dick sucked by the two girls and so she starts watching that
Starting point is 01:00:45 And then I switch and the other girls just standing there. She wants me to have sex with her. So I start having sex with her and she is so loud. Like the whole club comes over. She's like screaming because I'm doing her like doggy style. She's basically standing up and I'm behind her. And she's like so loud coming all over the place. The whole place is watching.
Starting point is 01:01:07 My wife's going, Jesus. And her husband's like, I don't make chills and make sounds like that for me. And I'm just like, I don't know what you want me to do. So I just kept having sex with her. And so, yeah, everybody kept switching the one guy he came real fast in his condom. And, you know, so it was, that was basically our one and only quote unquote orgy per se. Everybody was switching up. All the guys got their dick suck.
Starting point is 01:01:31 So after on the ride home, we stop at, my wife makes me stop at this rest area. And I jump in the back. She starts riding me. And she was squirting more than I've ever. She left a puddle on the chair. It's all over the back of our car. I'm like, oh, my God, babe. And I'm trying to catch it with my hands when she stood up.
Starting point is 01:01:53 It's just pouring out like a faucet. So she was like so turned on by it. And so, yeah, that was definitely one more, one of the more crazy nights. And we had sex in the rest area for an hour after we had had sex all night at the club with those people and everything else. So I told her she sucked like five. different dicks that night had sex with two people i got my dick sucked by five girls had sex with three girls so yeah that was uh that was definitely a crazy night for sure oh well listen that was a good ending to your whole story i mean you are living the life of a like it's kind of interesting
Starting point is 01:02:32 because you are kind of the guy that's like you know would have been happy with just one woman your whole life but yeah you're like living all these like player player guys dream you know what i mean there's so many guys that are not wired to be monogamous that wish they could do this but they're forced to be binogamous and you're like the opposite and here you are like allowed to do whatever the fuck you want i love your story though like i said i love the way you told it i love you gave me like a whole array of different uh stories on this if you could get your girl to call in that would be great i already saw hot picks of you guys like you sent me them so if you want to send me more for my page and i'll give you free access to that to see the comments and then i will give you free access
Starting point is 01:03:11 to my Discord and you could go on there. I'm going to, did you find me on Facebook from that pineapple group or from my Facebook? It was the pineapple group, I believe. Oh, okay. So I'll post your episode on there because sometimes I just throw up certain episodes on there. Your group should hear it. I love that group over there, Pineapple 101. I think it's a great group on Facebook, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:30 A lot of information. Yeah, there is. And it's very interactive. The guy Brian reached out to me. He's so paranoid that his page needs all this shit. I'm like, dude, you got a fucking killer page. You got like 50,000 engaged people. I always give a shout-outs because I think he's doing great work over there because,
Starting point is 01:03:45 and he always thinks he needs like experts, but I'm like, you don't need experts. Like, what you need is what you have, regular people in the lifestyle that talk to each other and give each other advice. Yeah, exactly. That's who I like to hear about when I go Googling people on fucking Reddit, not doctors or Wikipedia, you know. So I love that you found me there. I'm going to air your episode over there. And then people could hear a good shout out to that group because of that. group is a killer. But thanks so much for calling in. I love your story. It was like super great.
Starting point is 01:04:14 You're a great storyteller. Try to get your wife on, but even if not, whatever, you gave me a great episode, okay? Let me just say, we love your episodes. We love your show. It is my number one go-to. Oh, I love that. You are absolutely, yeah, you are absolutely the best at this style format, whichever you prefer to call it. Yeah. So, yeah, it was one of the first ones. It helped me get into the lifestyle information, you know, so you're, you're doing a great part for the lifestyle people and just in general with information and the new ones you're doing with the health and different aspects of everything is really great. So thank you for all that you do as well. Your show is the best by far. No, thanks for saying that because, you know, when I was going through
Starting point is 01:04:53 that page, there was times where people would be like, what's the best like lifestyle podcast and not one person would mention my show. And I'm like, why does no one see my show is just that? But you know what I think I do? And I'm glad that I do this. And I always made a point to do this is like not sort of put myself in one box. I have a fetish Friday where I talk about fetishes and I do swingers and I do cheater stories and now I'm doing the sexual health because I want to talk to as many people as I can because I love what I do, you know? So like lifestyle people find me, you know, but that's not only what I talk about, but I talk a lot about it like in between all my other fucking episodes, you know, but so I love that you found it and I love that you love it and
Starting point is 01:05:31 I'm so glad that you called in. Awesome. You're the best, Kathy. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it. Thanks, Tommy. All right. Bye. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers,
Starting point is 01:05:47 is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you
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