Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1183 - Leah and Johnny Started Hotwifing and she Got Pregnant by their Side Guy?!

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

Leah and Johnny started hotwifing and she got pregnant by their side guy (?!) and they BOTH called in to talk about it. How and why did they start hotwifing? What did they enjoy doing with the other g...uys? And, how did she wind up pregnant? Tune in to hear all the details including how he got addicted to the whole hotwifing scenario and how he brought it up to her, how she felt about it at first and the concerns she had and why, how they started role playing the scenario at first and how that added to their sex life, the rules they had going in and what he was looking for in a guy vs. what she was looking for, how they met their first guy and what exactly went down the first time they hooked up with him, how and why the reclaiming sex was so great and how long the high from it all lasted, the next couple times they hooked up with him and what would go down, how Leah loves when a guy cums in her and how she was protecting herself, how she wound up pregnant and how the guy reacted when she told him, why they decided to keep the baby and who knows and doesn’t know the whole story, how and why they decided to start hotwifing again and this time she only plays solo, how and why she enjoys solo more than when Johnny is present, the new guy she is now hooking up with and how and why it works for them right now, where she met him plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics LEAH plus see pics of my other female guests  + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http⁠s://liferx.md⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Load Boost and Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee  Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:01 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link everything i talk about is in the description so anyway uh today i have on first johnny and then lea they have a crazy story but it's not like a a sad ending it's a happy ending to a crazy story and this is a couple who decided at some point they were going to open up their marriage johnny was the one that got really like horny for the whole hot wife cuck scenario. He was like kind of addicted to it thinking about a lot and then just finally put it out there. She was open to it. We hear from Johnny first then.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Leah, he talks about how they went about finding a guy and then all the experiences they had with that guy. And then there was another time where they did it and there was like a threesome and he joined in and he talks about that. He really likes when she plays solo right now currently, recently they got back into it. and she's playing solo where she goes out of the house and comes back to him. But one of those times with that guy that they were banging, that she was banging, she played solo with him and she wound up getting pregnant. Crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:04:08 It's a true story. They wound up keeping the baby. She gets more into this part of the story than Johnny did. But she tells me that Johnny eventually told his parents. They know about the thing. Everyone's in love with the baby. They couldn't imagine their life without their baby. That guy wasn't into having a baby.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But like how crazy is that? Okay. And even after all of that, two years later, they are now hotwifing again. She's got a new guy. He loves that she goes and plays solo and then comes back and reports back to him. And she does too. She explains why she loves it so much. And it makes a lot of sense when you hear what she says,
Starting point is 00:04:42 why she prefers when her husband's not there. And it's not because they're not close. This is a couple that has been through a lot. Okay. And they are super close because of all of it. So it's a really interesting story. It's very scandalous. We talk all about it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Like I said, it's an interesting episode. I got hot picks of them over on my Patreon. You could go see anonymous picks over there. But I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with first Johnny. He talks for 30 minutes. And then Leah talks for the last 30 minutes. Hi, Johnny and Leah. I'm going to be talking to Johnny first.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You're Johnny. But you're part of Johnny and Leah. Your wife is standing by. She's right next to you. I'm going to have her come on second. That's the way I typically do couples now and I like it. We're going to get the story from you first. and then Leah's going to come on.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And I'm going to have a million questions for her by that time. I'm going to say the short story first and then you're going to get into it. Now, you and Leah at some point, and I don't know, you're going to have to give me the backstory. Like, did decide to open up your relationship because she had a boyfriend, quote, unquote. You knew about the boyfriend. And a big part of what happened was she wound up getting pregnant by accident. That wasn't a part of your kink. But like she wound up getting pregnant by accident with her side guy.
Starting point is 00:05:51 You knew about him. So it wasn't like you caught her cheating. You wound up raising that baby, but you guys do still have an open marriage, correct? Yep, but more or less, that's correct, yes. Okay, more or less. Let's start at the beginning. Like, how does your wife, quote unquote, wind up having a boyfriend? Great question.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So, yeah, we were married for several years, and I don't know, somewhere along that development, pretty early on in that development, I was, I brought it up to Leah and just because we've always been pretty open about whatever. And she was open to it right away. She was immediately open to it. And then it seemed like immediately we started to have like mind-blowingly good sex, which we've always had really, really good sex,
Starting point is 00:06:42 but it took it till the next level. And there was a lot of talking, the dirty talk, incorporating that in that. And so to me, again, it kind of became an obsession. but I definitely pushed way too hard, way too fast, was not patient, did all the things you're not supposed to do. But despite all that, Leah did move forward, and it was like two steps forward, one step back. Eventually met a guy on one of the sites, so we joined one of the, whatever it is, the website.
Starting point is 00:07:13 This is many years ago now. Leah told me last night how long it had been. I think it was 2017 that we met. Well, that's not that long, but okay. Well, to me, it did not seem like it had been that long at all. But anyway, we went out to eat. We hit it off really well, but then we just went our separate ways. She continued to text him kind of showing me everything,
Starting point is 00:07:34 and they were texting sexually pretty much right after that. And then I don't know how long it was after that, but we all met together because I kind of wanted to watch. And I think she felt more comfortable. And so the first time they, I think the first time was in a hotel. and he was here on work, which he was here regularly on work, and had a, so he had a hotel. So we went over there, and I watched them. And it was great.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It was great. And then that happened several more times than she would see him just so low, which I was cool with after a while. And she kind of liked it too. And there was a whole other area of fetish kind of kink, if you will, just in that. coming home. Yeah, so that was fun. And then, but yeah, the last time, as it was, she went to where he was at, which is several hours away and stayed overnight. And that was the time where she accidentally got pregnant. And so going into that, previously, she'd been seeing him regularly and she'd gotten on birth control and so that they didn't have to use
Starting point is 00:08:44 protection. Yeah. But then she came off the birth control. And he knew that. And he knew that. but I don't remember exactly. I think it just kind of happened. They had unprotected sex before. And so anyway, the idea coming out of that was like, we'll take plan B because she was ovulating and it was definitely like. Not a good time. Yeah, not a good time to have had that happen.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So she took the plan B. The plan B did not work, which we found out several weeks later. And I remember. It could not work? Apparently, because I mean. A PSA to everyone out there. listen. Yeah, for real. It's not a, it's not tried and true. That's crazy. Well, and technically, I guess, neither is, is, there's no 100% right, whatever, anyway, it happened. And there was obviously talk of
Starting point is 00:09:34 maybe not going through with the pregnancy because it's, there's a lot, there's other, a lot of other people involved now, potentially a whole new being that's going to enter the world. And what the oh, what the hell were we thinking kind of thing. So something that seemed like some extracurricular, whatever, had turned into a whole another thing. But wait, listen, I know that you still have an open relationship. You've had like just like maybe one or two situations or something like after and we'll get to that.
Starting point is 00:10:04 But like I want to go back before she winds up getting pregnant and you wind up in this big fat mass. Like you had this kink. You said you didn't know where it came from. You guys started like role playing. You had zero rules going in. Oh, no. No. Okay. So we definitely had rules going into it. So I say we moved quick. When I brought it up, she was open to it. But that was it. It was just, oh, she was open. And that was enough to ignite this huge. And so I was riding the wave of that high as well. Like the, we always had great sex. But this was like way, way, way, way, way better sex for both of us. And I could tell.
Starting point is 00:10:39 No, I know. You already said that. But what were the rules? Going into the situation the first time. No, just go. Listen, this is not just a situation. It's not just a situation. the first time. This is the first time you're like a couple that are married. You get this kink, you bring it up and your wife is completely down. She's got no questions. Like, why the fuck do you want to see me with another guy? She's, she's definitely not like completely down. She's very, very, very reluctant. All she did was express a open mind and this about it. She didn't immediately reject it. But in terms of actually executing it, it was quite a few conversations, several of which were heated about just going on to the website to start to have a pro
Starting point is 00:11:17 file that didn't include face picks. Yeah. So let's, Yeah. So talk about that. She's very, like you did say, when you told the story, it just sounded like she was like down and you went online and met a guy, but that's not really how it happened. She was open to it.
Starting point is 00:11:31 She wasn't like no way. She was open to it. So you're like, okay, this is great. But it didn't magically happen overnight. Like what were some of those rules and those conversations that you guys had before she went online and picked a guy? basically just that she would be in control a lot of everything and at any point in time either one of us could pull the plug and it would be game over and that went from beginning to end and that's in terms of everything and we both had to kind of agree to that and then was there okay was there any no kissing was there any kind of rules that you had as far as what she could do with the guy no the only thing she wasn't okay was was anal with the other guy.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Before she went online and picked a guy. Basically, just that she would be in control a lot of everything. And at any point in time, either one of us could pull the plug. And it would be game over. And that went from beginning to end. And that's in terms of everything. And we both had to kind of agree to that. And then was there, okay, was there any no kissing?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Was there any kind of rules that you have? as far as what she could do with the guy? No. The only thing she wasn't okay with was anal with the other guy. Now, did you know that you definitely didn't want to participate but wanted to watch or wanted to watch and then participate? Or what was, what were you looking for out of that hot wife experience? I wasn't really sure going into it. I just kind of wanted to try, I guess.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And at first, I think Leah didn't want me to participate. I remember having conversations that included her saying, I think it would be a lot easier for me if it was just me and him at first and you could just watch. Yeah. And I thought, okay, and I got a lot out of that actually. And now I think I would even prefer that or the situation we have going on right now where she goes out by herself and comes back and tells me all about it. Right. You're like a true cuckle.
Starting point is 00:13:40 But do you definitely at least have reclaiming sex when all that is said and done? Yes. You're not like into being denied or anything like that as well. I don't know. I mean, I'm open-minded to that and that sort of like I've kind of played with that myself a little bit in denying myself because I am, I don't know. So who knows how that may develop in the future. I'm not completely turned off by the idea, I guess. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Right. It could actually go down that route. It could. It would probably have to be something that Leah would want for me to be like for me to want it. But yeah. Well, listen, if you listen to my show, that's where you have problems. Like when people stop reclaiming, stop coming back together, the guy's letting his girl go out solo by herself. He's not reconnecting. There's that intimacy between the primary partners is like no longer around and she's just being intimate with somebody else. It's just a recipe for a disaster. So I'm just like, I would hope Leah never wants that to happen and you just never wind up going that far because that's where it gets a little, that's where real solo. play with your wife going out without you, it becomes a problem. As long as there's the reclaiming and you go back to that primary relationship and that's the most important thing and there's always
Starting point is 00:14:54 a coming back together after experience, it's fine. I know plenty of couples that do that and work solo like that and it totally works. It's when there's no reclaiming afterwards and the guy wants to be in a cock cage and he ever wants to fucker and he starts getting really into that cuckled thing. It leaves room for that woman to cop feeling. It's a woman. It's a cop feeling. It's a little. I don't know. someplace else. And it happens. I have those stories on. They're always cautionary tales. So I'm cautioning you. So listen, you already got burned in this situation. We already know what happened when you did open up. Like you got kind of majorly fucked. And it really must have cock blocked your scenario. Because here you are a guy that suddenly has this fantasy to watch your girl fuck someone else. You're one of the
Starting point is 00:15:37 lucky guys that you tell your girl. And she's like down for it. A lot of guys, I think, would say that to their girl and they'd shut it down immediately. And now you're getting to watch her fuck eyes and everything happened. And then she gets pregnant. Yes, not a good scene. Yeah, yeah. You got really derailed. But let's go back to that first experience.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And I'm going to talk to Leah. So I'll ask her about what she was looking for in guys and stuff. But what app did you guys go on? And what were you pitching? Like couple looking for a single guy to just have a hot wave experience? That's exactly what we were on. I think it was a Swinger lifestyle website. I want to say it was SDC.
Starting point is 00:16:12 or something to that. And we were actually on two, but SDC was the one we kind of took two more so than the other. And yeah, exactly that. We took pictures of each one of us separately together and then no face picks and basically said that, yeah, we're married, we're happily married, very happily married, but we're open to adding and looking for another guy kind of thing. And maybe I want to watch, maybe I want to play, maybe, I don't know. And it opened up the floodgates of, but she's very picky as you'll hear soon, way.
Starting point is 00:16:42 more picky than I would encourage her to be. But hey, whatever. That's how women are. Women are are way more picky than guys. It's just the thing. You'd have to be a woman to understand. But as a guy, let me ask you this, because a lot of cucks and even not some cucks, like just guys that are stags, I would say, they just want to see their girl with another guy. There is this whole thing where they want that other guy to have a bigger dick than them. And it's not about the fact that they want to see a big dick. It's about seeing their wife pleasured. And that pleasure turns them on. Did you have that going on at all? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Oh, there was. A lot. I still do. A lot. Were you, like, watching porn? And is that how it, like, triggered this in you? Like, where, where? I had a, yeah, I had a, at the time I hadn't watched porn in quite some time.
Starting point is 00:17:27 But, like, many years before that, I did get way, way into porn, almost to the point where it kind of became a problem, which is why I quit. But, but, yeah, that planted seeds for sure that could have developed over time. But I don't know. kind of like studied it and read a lot about it after I kind of became afflicted with the fetish. Oh, so that's where you got those big cock experiences, right? Yeah. Well, it could have. It totally could have, but it also just kind of made me realize like, I'm not alone and this is actually pretty common for men in my stage of life. Age, my son. I thought, okay, thank God. And so then I kind of started to look into, yeah, and then I was like, man, it would be cool to see
Starting point is 00:18:07 here with the guy a little bit bigger than me because men, we're stupid. We're like, figure's always better, they're longer, harder, faster. It's really dumb. But it's, I think it's almost like primal or something because, yeah, I can't even shake it. And I too have a little bit of a BBC fetish that I've shared with her many, many times. Now it's like a running joke because she's like, no. And her ex was black. And I'm like, what do you mean? And she's like, it's a hard no. But then recently she's like, well, maybe someday. And so now I'm like, that's all you're thinking about. More or less. You definitely had a preference as far as the type of guy she chose.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You wanted a guy with a bigger dick. You had a vision of what this scenario was going to be like. And it's a typical vision. It brought, you got trumped really quick by Leah. Like she's quick to, she just knows she has the power in that regard and that. And she knew going in,
Starting point is 00:18:57 it's going to be ultimately up to me. And she didn't care whatever about the size of the cock. Like not the least bit. That was not even on her rate. You know what I mean? Yeah, she didn't care. Uh-huh. She's not a size queen.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And that, yeah, and so, actually to the contrary, she does not want a guy with a big dick and thinks that that would hurt and is very reluctant. And so that's a whole other point of contention with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's what you have. Well, listen, you could meet somewhere in the middle. The fact that she is fucking guys for you. You could at least say you're getting something here, right? Well, in your show, listen to these episodes, so many of them now, I've come to realize it's given me a huge sense of gratitude around the relationship I have with her. Just this whole experience has brought us so much closer together because of the reclaiming and this the level of intimacy that we have and the communication it requires.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It really was like putting our marriage on steroids, our relationship on steroids in terms of just building the strength that we have. And so that's kind of why I'm really addicted to it is because I've never felt more in love with her than right after a scenario, a situation or something like that. Yeah, isn't that interesting? It is. And I hear it all the time. It's not like you're the first one to say it. But I just think that in order for these kinds of situations to go off well, there's got to be over communication.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And that over communication leads to more intimacy. That's how you become closer to people by talking to them. Well, and I think I heard on one of your episodes, I want to say it was like yesterday, maybe Erica, a therapist saying something about, hey, I don't feel like we're communicating as deeply and as frequently and as intimately as we could be. are you willing to work on that with me?
Starting point is 00:20:40 And I asked Leah twice yesterday if that exact question, and she was like, what the hell are you listening to? And where did you hear that? And well, first she said, yeah. No, she would be down. And then I think she suspected there was like a problem. And it's not necessarily that there's a problem other than the fact that we could almost always be massively improving our ability to communicate with one another.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And in such, improving every aspect of our. relationship. And that's big. That's a huge, huge deal. Because we do have three kids. And I think the word that she used was intentional. Like you really intend to do it. Like you set up a time. You make sure that it is done. And because, listen, with three kids, you've been married for a while. Life just happens. And the days go by quickly. And if you really don't intentionally do things, you could forget to do most things every day. And then before you know it, five years have gone down. And we also know those kinds of marriages that wind up and divorce eventually or just a horrible time. And it's because somewhere along the line they stop communicating. What I find in couples that do have
Starting point is 00:21:46 open relationships, that communication about the open relationship keeps them communicating in a way that keeps the intimacy between them, like super strong. And they have better relationships than a lot of the vanilla couples that I talk to that are cheating and all this other shit is going down. But anyway, let's get back to your story. So that first time that you, you go. You were looking for a guy with a bigger dick. You knew exactly what these scenarios were all about because you were like horny for them for a while, right? She picked a guy. Now, the guy that she picked the first time you went to a hotel, did you just sit and watch? Did you take part? How was that first experience for you? It was intense. Very, very intense. So leading up to it, I was just like
Starting point is 00:22:27 so excited but nervous. And I'm like an overthinker and I'm a planner. And I want to scripted out and I want to talk about it and Leah does not necessarily want to talk. She's more of an internalizer. Her way to prep is to just chill out, relax and listen to some music. And I'm like, we need to talk about every possible thing that he might say do. And also, I'm like wanting this to be this, this amazing, like all these little things I want her to do or him to do or her to say or her and she basically again was and thank goodness because it's perfect dynamic she'd basically like hey the only way this is going to go down is if you just let me do what i'm going to do and you let him do and you just kind of sit there and watching if you want to shoot a little video or something that's fine
Starting point is 00:23:17 but the first time because she was nervous too of course and big part of it was probably nervous having me there and then she would have been nervous me not being there but whatever but it was it was great he was really really nice nice. I enjoyed him. And he was, he was friendly. He was very respectful, but he was also very, very sexual and type A, and she likes that a lot. And I like to see her like that. And so the way that he kind of took charge right away and like kind of dominated her, the same way I do sexually, but like obviously different as well. And he was a little younger, a little taller, a little, I don't know, more boyishly handsome, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So it was just, it was very, very, very exciting. And she, of course, I've never seen her, well, that's a lie. It's been a long time since I've seen her go to the lengths that she did to get ready, like everything, like nails did, like wax. And it was just, it was cool because I was like, wow, this is. So it was just really exciting. And I really, really enjoyed it. Did you participate or did you just,
Starting point is 00:24:29 The first time I did not. I just watched. And I just, I didn't shoot a lot of video at all, but I just watched. And now what was it like seeing your girl get fucked by another guy, first time in real life right in front of you? It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I will tell you, we had so much good stuff going, like leading up to it. I, dozens and dozens and dozens of times we fucked and made love passionately talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:55 where like it was almost like it it was too much of an anticipation. So even though it was absolutely incredible and there's no way to it'll, but still it was kind of like, I don't know how to explain it other than. And I'm also kind of one of these idiots that comes out of situations and immediately starts to think about how I could make it better the next time. And that's really not the vibe that Leah wants to settle into when she, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:25 And so, again, it's forced us to really learn more about one another, how to communicate with one another. But yeah, it was intense. And it was cool. And of course, there's a thousand things that I wish were a little bit different or whatever. But ultimately, it was just really, really, really cool to see her get off like she did. And she really, really did. And I loved it. How was your reclaiming sex after?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Yeah. Oh, that was nuts. and it was like multiple sessions for days, probably weeks afterwards. We were, the chemistry, the sexual fire between, it was just crazy. It was like back when we first got together, but way, way better because we knew each other sexually now. We had the wisdom, the sexual wisdom and experience, but the passion of brand new lover. So it was really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah, yeah, that's cool. And I've heard that kind of feeling and that intensity and that, feeling of being like on drugs for each other. It lasts a while. It's not like just that one night. It could last for weeks. Yeah. It absolutely can and does for or did for me and her. And so now you did have experience after that that you did get involved, right? Is that like the second or third time? Yep. It was probably the second or third time. And again, many, many talks and what about this and what about that and what would you be comfortable with and it was i think it started out me watching quite a bit and then i think the first time i got involved was she and him were on the bed like i think all the
Starting point is 00:27:01 only item of clothing left was her thong and he was like moving it to the side and eating her out from behind and she went down on me and that led to him fucking her from behind and her giving me head and I think that was about it. We never did. She never wanted to do anal and vaginal. She wasn't, nothing hardcore like that. Maybe she's open to that now, maybe, some days, kind of thing. If all the stars align, which is great.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I love that she's always dangling the carrot down the road for me. Maybe not as quickly as I want, but she's always, like even this whole BBC thing. It went from, nope, hell no. And I'm like, that's racist. You can't say that. She doesn't want the big dick. She's afraid of the big dick. That's what it might be part of it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I don't know what. I don't know what it was, but I think part of it was probably just to tease me and tell me no, and now it's, well, maybe somebody. I don't know. It's a fun, it's a really, really fun little hobby we have. Hey, guys, you ever wish you could blow a bigger load to really impress your girl? Well, listen up because I know a supplement that's specifically designed to increase your volume, improve the taste of your sperm, and give you better orgasms.
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Starting point is 00:29:00 description, click on the link and use my code strictly for 10% off. Maybe not as quickly as I want, but she's always like even this whole BBC thing. It went from nope, hell no. And I'm like, that's racist. You can't say that. She doesn't want the big dick. She's afraid of the big dick. That's what it might be part of it. I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was. I don't know. It's a fun. It's a really, really fun little hobby. We have. But it wasn't fun at some point because you only wind up with one guy the first time and that's the guy she winds up getting pregnant from him. Same guy? Yeah, more or less. We did go out with another guy. He was an idiot. I didn't really have. like him and she didn't either and but he was the only one that yeah and it was the it was that same dude and he was a good guy and and and she liked him enough and i liked him enough and i don't know it
Starting point is 00:29:54 was like when something's working just keep on and it was cool because there was some distance there he wasn't he wasn't around all the time so there was some time that you know to build up to it but yeah ultimately that was the one and they had been a long time since they'd they'd been with one another and again she had come off the birth control and it was like the first time she'd ever gone to him several hours away and I was a mess I was like I was a mess because you were well yeah because it hadn't happened in a long time and I was just I don't know really really nervous and it was it was far away and it was overnight and it might be all weekend oh my god yeah yeah for an overthinker how and why did you put yourself in that position it's like it's almost like a torture like a
Starting point is 00:30:40 feel good torture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't explain it. That's your kink. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, so now, what is that conversation like when you have to call that fucking guy and tell him that there's a baby going to be involved? And then what happens?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Is he stay involved in that baby's life? Fortunately, Leah's going to be way better at the details of this. But all I know is it didn't go well at all. and he more or less was not open to her having the child. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Very much.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So, and, but I don't think there was, unfortunately, I don't think there was a verbal conversation that was, I think it was all through text, which I'm not a fan of the whole texting, especially when it comes to something like this. Oh my God, but that's why text is great. For the person that doesn't like to have a conversation, that's like the best way to do it. It's, bingo. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:34 yeah and Leah's like that and I'm on the opposite yeah I'm like you but that's why you and listen this is why you and Leah work because you're opposites and that absolutely that's the way it's yeah yeah you need that so I'm like you needs a herd but you're the type that I'm like you I'm going to call on the fucking phone but I know so many people roll like Leah where that's and that's my text yeah or email or email or whatever that's what that's all about they don't have to have that confrontation because that's a scary fucking phone call for someone to make. Like, that's hardcore.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Let me ask you this. You had that experience. I'm going to get more about how he reacted and what happened from Leah, because you said she'll be better to talk to about that. But you have seen somebody else after. Like, how long did it take after that whole fuck up for you to, you guys to decide to get back on the horse? A long time.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Just recently. Yeah. And it's been years. Got back. And I didn't know if we were ever going to. And it just kind of happened where, and it's pretty cool how it happened, actually, because this is another weird thing. But early on in our relationship, I remember her, I was, I would, I would, me, I'm a talker.
Starting point is 00:32:45 So I'm asking questions, kind of like an interrogation. Yeah. Of like her exes and, well, who did you, when did you sleep with this guy? And then, because she was a bit of a slut. She'll tell you. She ran through some, and I loved it for some of them. I'm like, really? And then you, you, you slept with his friend?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Like, you, and he was asleep in the other room. Oh, wow. Anyway, so there was a guy that we actually both knew that she had slept with. And it was like a one-time thing and whatever, but he actually ironically had the same name as this other guy that she had been with. And so I said, well, hey, would you ever be open to that? And she was like, maybe. So I took it upon myself to reach out to him. And this is a pretty bold move, but I just, I think I just called him up.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I said, no, it was a text. But I had been like prepping him for a while. Hey, how are you doing? But then I just was like, hey, man, I'm just going to be real. Leah talks about the time you and her. And he, because he's cool. And he knows me and I'm cool. And I said, so I'm just going to be, I'm just going to say it.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Like, we're kind of into this thing where maybe she wants to have a little side out. Would you be open to it? And he was like, yeah. And then I said, cool. Well, give her a text. And ever since, they've just been texting and hooking up. And this is, I think, tomorrow night, all things go well will be like the fourth time that they've hooked up in the last few weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Now, are they hooking up solo or are you there? Yeah. This is total, just now you have taken yourself out of the equation. You're not even watching. Well, and that's more for her right now. That's just what she wanted for right now. And I'm with it. Right, because you have that kink where you like for her to kind of come home after doing
Starting point is 00:34:33 something. I mean, that's a big thing for a lot of people. Yeah, it's exciting. And then she's really kind of playing into it too. I think she loves kind of coming right home. I mean, I can tell she does. And the excitement in her, sexual excitement in her towards me after that is, oh my God, it is like a drug. I crave it. And it really gets me going. Yeah. Yeah, and I've heard from a lot of women. We're going to get her on now, too,
Starting point is 00:34:59 and I'm going to ask her about what a lot of women, hot lives that I've spoken too, the ones that do play solo. A lot of times it is because they prefer it that way because they feel more free with the other guy when their guy isn't watching for whatever reason. You know, I've heard that from other women before. And I think you touched upon that that Leah might have a little bit of that. Like at first she was kind of like, didn't want you there. But that's not because she doesn't love you.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And what women have said, it's more because they feel like they could be more free. They're less, they're more comfortable if someone's not watching, you know, if you're not watching them. 100%. Yeah. Let's get Leah on and let's hear this whole crazy story from Leah. Sweet. Thanks. What do we call you again?
Starting point is 00:35:40 What's the fuck your fake name? I always forget. Johnny. Oh, Johnny, by the end of the conversation, I'm like, I don't even remember the person. I'm so involved in the story. I'm like you, Johnny. Okay, listen, Johnny, thanks so much for telling your side of things. We're going to get more.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Listen, you had a baby. You do take care of that baby now, right? Like, that's your child. Every day, all day long. Love her with all my heart. Yeah. Well, I give you credit. I give you credit for sticking through that.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think that's probably another reason why you guys are super close because you went through something pretty brutal. That's a fucked up thing to go through and all the decisions you guys had to go through. I don't know what you guys told other people. I'm going to get that story from her, but that must have been a very difficult thing to navigate. And the fact that you're on the other side and you have this baby and you love it, I give you credit because that must have been super difficult. And it was an accident and accidents happened.
Starting point is 00:36:31 That's a crazy accident. But, you know, I'm sure, I don't know, I have a kid. And like, you have a kid and you're just like, love them so much you can't imagine life without them. So I would assume maybe on some level you're like, are you at that place where like, yeah, it's a fucked up thing that happened. But like you love your baby. Like you can't imagine not having this child. Right. I would die and kill for her.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. She's 100% mine. Right. So that's how your baby came to you. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Cool. Awesome. Good story. Johnny. Thanks so much for telling me your sign. Now get your girl Leah on. I'll get her. Okay, thanks.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Hi, Leah. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm good. So listen, I got your whole story from your husband. There's a lot to your story. The crazy end of your story.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Well, it wasn't the total end because you guys have a new guy now. But like the whole getting pregnant and stuff, he's like, oh, I'll leave it to Leah to tell you more of those details. We'll eventually get to that towards the end. But let's start like at the beginning. When your guy, Johnny comes to you and says, after you've been together for a while, Oh, I want to see you like fuck some other guy. He, the way he made it sound right from the first time he told the story and he breathed through it.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He was like, oh, yeah. And I told her and she was like totally down. And then he kind of backtracked and he was like she was open to it. But she definitely had some reservations. How did you feel? I did have some reservations. Now, I've had like three sums before. So I've had an experience with that.
Starting point is 00:37:52 So it's not totally out of left field to me. But for me to be in like a committed relationship, it was because I am, it's kind of like a mind fuck because I'm jealous. I'm a jealous type of person. Like him being with another person is off limits. Like that's a hard no. I had to make sure when he brought this up like this isn't going to allow you to have a hall pass to do whatever you want because I'm not down with that. So it is like a mind fuck for him to be okay with me doing it. But I was like open to it, but I wasn't sure how it was going to be because like I said, I'm a jealous person. So I had to like kind of see it from his perspective and make sure he's okay with it and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Because you wouldn't be okay. You're just like projecting. Yeah, yeah, I got. Yeah, exactly. Totally projecting. Yeah. So let me ask you this. Those previous threesomes you had, were they with men or were they with a guy and another girl?
Starting point is 00:38:45 What kind of threesomes? Two guys. Okay. So but they weren't like boyfriends that you cared about. Kind of. One was like an ex kind of. And it was his brother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You're kidding. Yeah. It was just a really drunk. night and that's just what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I end up dating the brother in the future. It's, yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Keep it all in the same circle, you know? You have found yourself in messes before Leah. Yes, I have. That's kind of crazy. Okay, so Johnny comes to you. He's like, I want to fuck other guys and you're like open to it at first. So you, of course, had some reservations. Now, I know that he was saying he's very typical in that he wanted a guy with a big
Starting point is 00:39:22 dick that happens to be a part of any guy that's into this scenario. they always want the guy to have a bigger dick than him. But he said, like, you kind of shot that down because you were very picky. Like, you roll. It sounds painful. I'm also, like, five foot. So it just does not sound that appealing to me. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:40 You don't want a guy with a huge cock. So now what did you want, like when he said that first you guys started role playing and talking about it a lot. Did that help you get more comfortable with the idea of what you were going to do? Yeah, yeah. Because I enjoy turning other people. people on. That gets me off when somebody else is like really turned on. So I'm the idea of somebody watching me totally works for me. I like that idea. So when he brought it up, I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:06 okay, I could see that happening. But I don't know. It just was not. I don't know what I was looking for when it came to that situation. Because I never really thought it could happen with him. But when you guys were though like role playing and you were, he was saying you guys were having like great sex just talking about it while you were having sex. And so just that I, you start to get comfortable with the idea of having another guy in your bedroom with your husband. Yeah. So when we were doing that, it made me feel like he was okay with it. Because that's, like I said, I had to get past what my perception would be with it. And he was like, okay, so he really is okay with this. Like he really wants to do this. And then when he brought up like,
Starting point is 00:40:46 the website, thinking like, okay, like this could really happen. I did feel like a little pressure of to perform that what was he expecting out of this? And I don't know. So I reluctantly at the time let him put me on the website. We both were on the website. And moving forward and we met somebody, we went out to dinner with him. I did not really care for him at all. I just didn't like his personality.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I'm more attracted to somebody's personality. Don't get him wrong. Looks to do. They are important. But we just did not click until we met this other guy. We went out to dinner with him. And I clicked with him. But that was important to you.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like you wanted it to meet a guy that you felt comfortable with that you had some sort of connection with. You're like most women. I understand that. Guys don't understand it because they're so different than us. But that's how most women are. You always see like women tens walking around with men sixes and you're like what the fuck. But it's no, that's how women are. It's not so much about the looks.
Starting point is 00:41:41 It's like the whole package is the vibe. Right. And when you send me a dick pick, like that doesn't like really impress me. It's just not my thing. Yeah. Yeah. So this guy did you pick them when you like when you guys went online looking for guys where you look at them? Was he in charge of that? Who was in charge of picking the good, the news? A little bit of both,
Starting point is 00:41:59 but he was more of like, hey, what about this guy? What about this guy? And I'd be like, yes, no, or whatever. And then he would be the one to write the message and then I would approve kind of thing. And yeah, so he would send the messages and this guy was like, hey, I'm coming up on this date. Let's go have dinner or whatever. And that's what we did. And then he got my phone number and we started texting and stuff. Okay. So how was that first experience with him? This is like the first time you're going to like, another guy and your husband's going to be there watching. What was that like for you? I was a little nervous, but I think he shared about how I'm not, I'm not one to like overthink because if I plan and overthink, then I don't know. I just, it gives me anxiety. So I'm kind of just,
Starting point is 00:42:42 just go with the flow. Yeah, don't think do. Don't think what happens. Yeah. And that's Tom Cruise. And that's what I did. So I just kind of like, okay, this is what's going to happen. I was more nervous about how he, my husband was going to react because I was just concerned how he would feel because in my mind, you know, I would not be okay with this. But, you know, I wasn't there to please this other guy. I was more of like there to please my husband at that point. Right. Now was it like when you start, now you start fooling around with the guy, your husband's sitting there watching, kind of videotaping a little bit. Did you eventually get turned on by the whole scenario? Yes, for sure, for Sure. When I saw how turned on Johnny was, that's when I was like, okay, yeah, I really,
Starting point is 00:43:25 I'm really enjoying this. And of course, I got off and he got off and we kind of went our separate ways after that for a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And how was that reclaiming sex for you afterwards? I know your guy, Johnny said it was amazing. Oh, it was great. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was awesome. Amazing. I think that's like the closest we had been in like, I would say like ever, because I was more vulnerable at that point than we were both very vulnerable at that point. that we ever really had been. So yeah, that really, really did bring us together that first one. And then the second time or the time that he joined,
Starting point is 00:43:58 do you have a preference of him watching and sitting there to the side, him joining in or him not even being there? Because I know you've done all three scenarios. Yeah, honestly, at this point, I would say I more enjoy separately. Yeah. It's less pressure. And it's more fun. It's when I love him, I love my husband.
Starting point is 00:44:18 but when he's not around, I'm more thinking like, okay, I'm not a mom at this time. I'm not a wife. You know, I'm not, you know, I'm not an employee or anything. Like, I am just me and I can be in the moment and not have to worry about being responsible for anybody else. Wow. So I can just be. And then I can come home and tell him like everything that happened. I just don't feel the pressure.
Starting point is 00:44:41 It's not like he's pressuring me. It's me putting that pressure on myself. No, that. It's what he's a symbol of who you really are, you know. You know what I mean? Your home life, the mom and everything. And if he's not there, you could sort of let go of all that and just be a sexy woman having great fucking sex.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that's hot. And I totally, I feel like I can understand that as a woman. That makes sense. And to shed that after being a mom for so long, how freeing and amazing is that for you. Yeah. And he tells me I'm sexy all the time.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Attractive I am. But, you know, hearing it from somebody else, it's like reassuring, I guess. I don't know. For sure. So now, but the second time when he did get involved, was that a hot, was that hot for you? He did have a threesome before. So you had done like spit roasting or whatever they call that shit. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yeah, exactly. So. But it was fun with your husband there? It was fun. It was fun. I'm not, I wouldn't say, I'm like, wham bam, thank you man. But I also don't like to fuck all night long. Like it's got to, let's get to the point at some point.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And doing that, it does take a little bit longer because I feel like I have to satisfy two men. Yeah, it's a lot of work. But it was fun. It was fun. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was actually at our house.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And he was staying the night up in the upstairs room. So after we were done, like he went to sleep upstairs and I went downstairs and slept with my husband. So that was kind of interesting. That is interesting. And then you had like sex downstairs while he was up there? Yes, yes. And then the next morning I went and had sex with him upstairs. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Your husband didn't tell me that. He must have loved that because he, you. A little bit of his kink is like you going and doing your thing and then coming back to him, right? Yeah, yeah. He enjoys that. He wants every little detail and all of that. The reclaiming. He really enjoys that.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Yeah. So now let's get to the point where you haven't seen him for a while, right? Eventually you haven't seen him for a while. Yeah. What happened was, it's okay. So I was on birth control this whole time because one thing I do love is to feel a man come when it gets really hard. And then when they ejaculate, that's just a great feeling. feeling. And I wanted to not use protection anymore. And this guy was down for it. And I was on birth
Starting point is 00:46:52 control. And we had seen each other multiple times. And then for some reason, we had just stopped seeing each other for a while, probably about six months to a year, just stopped talking. I don't know. Nothing really bad happened. Life just happened. And then I stopped taking birth control because I just don't like how it feels. I was only taking it for him. Johnny has a vasectomy. So you're married. You don't need to be on it anymore. You were doing it because of this guy. Yes. And then COVID happened. So that would also add it a little more time than we saw each other. And then he messaged me out of the blue. I was like, hey, how are you doing? And life got in the way. And he was like, you want to come down to see me? And I was like, sure. So yeah, I went down there for the
Starting point is 00:47:36 weekend. But you were off birth control at that point. I was off birth control because I had no reason to take it anymore. You weren't seeing him in like a year or so. Yeah. But when you went, let me ask you this, when you went that day and you were about to fuck, did you tell him, listen, I'm not on birth control anymore? Yes. I didn't tell him, but I think Johnny had let him know that I wasn't. So he knew if he fucks you without a condom and comes inside of you like you like, he's taking that risk.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yes, he was taking that risk, exactly. Like, it's not like you didn't tell him or anything. But I did go and buy plan B before I went down there to have it to take right after, just in case, because I was, I'm very, like, I can't, yeah, well, I'm, I'm, I'm very, well, I calculate my periods. I know what's happening through the month. And I was ovulating and I knew that. I didn't tell him that, but I was hoping.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah. I was planning that plan B was going to work. And I took it right after, but apparently it failed. Yeah, I was surprised when your husband said that. Is there a high percentage that doesn't work? It's not that. I don't know. I didn't even research it, honestly.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Oh, my God. Well, I'm going to go ahead and tell you if you're, it might not work. Yeah, no, I think this is a good PSA. I said that when I was talking about. I have a two-year-old that can prove that. Yeah, listen up. Plan B is not just the solution because it might not work. And in this situation, this is the time that you want it to work.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Oh my God. When you're like married, like having this crazy kind of setup, the last thing you want is this kind of thing to happen. Yeah, and I was in the best. I looked great and then I got pregnant. Oh, my God. So now you take Plan B, how surprised were you, first of all, that you were like pregnant? You probably never even thought after you took that pill that you, there was chance, did you? I thought there could be a possibility. I didn't know how accurate plan B was going to be.
Starting point is 00:49:21 But so when my period was supposed to come, I'm like, hey, I'm a day late. Let's wait another day. And then I was still late. So I went and got a pregnancy test. And I took it and it said positive and I didn't believe it. So I took another one. And it's funny. I got it from the same store. Yeah. I bought the plan B from. And yeah. Well, I came back positive and I was like, okay. So I got to tell Johnny this. Oh my God, what's that conversation like? Which is like, hey, I'm pregnant. And the thing that too, Johnny did not say, he does have a pregnancy fetish. Like, he enjoys me pregnant. So I just told him like, hey, I think I'm pregnant. And he was like, what do you plan on doing?
Starting point is 00:50:02 And I was like, I need to at least let the other guy know. Oh, my God. That conversation? Well, yeah, I texted him like, hey, I need to talk to you. And he was like, yeah, give me a minute or whatever. I didn't hear anything. So the next day I'm like, hey, we really need to talk. And we did talk on the phone.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So I heard Johnny say. Oh, yeah, he was telling me you guys texted. I'm like, oh, I know this. This was an actual conversation on the phone. Okay. And soon as I told him like, hey, I think I'm pregnant. He said, I was afraid this was, that's what it was going to be. I guess he could just tell for my text messages.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And he was like, hey, I'm at work. Let me call you back. And he never did call me back. The rest was through text message. Oh, because of that. Because now he doesn't want to fucking talk to you. That makes more sense. Yeah, I think he was just scared.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And I can understand. He didn't have any kids. He was a single guy. Oh, my God. At that time, he had have been 29 maybe. Oh, my God. Living in a one bed apartment and not sure of like his career life and everything like that. But I never asked for anything.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I never asked for money. I never said, hey, you got to give me child support or help me pay for an abortion or anything like that. He just went into fear mode. And he sent me this long. text message about how he'd rather jump off a bridge than have to tell his mom that he got a married wife or a married woman pregnant and all this stuff and yada yada yada yada I mean you understand you could understand feeling that way of course because it really is the craziest story it's not just oh I got my girlfriend pregnant it's I got a woman who's married to a guy and the husband knows and he was there
Starting point is 00:51:36 watching me fuck her there's just so much to I understand why he'd run a jump off the bridge rather that that was more of that. Right. And you know, and like I said, I didn't expect anything from him. And I had made multiple appointments to terminate and I canceled them. And then I would make another one. And then I would cancel it because I just didn't know what to what I, if I could do it. I've had a miscarriage before and it was pretty crushing. I didn't have that thought of what could be. And ultimately, we decided, let's go along with it. And I got an ultrasound and heard the heartbeat. Counted the toes. And It just came harder and harder to terminate. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:52:16 So wait, so after that long text that he sent to you, was that the last time you spoke to him? Did he ever reach back out? That's been the last. I did respond with saying, I totally understand how you could feel that way. I don't even remember what I said. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I haven't heard back from him. Every now and then I think of, what if I just send a picture of the baby? Just send him a picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably better not to. Unless he ever reaches out. and wants it. I think maybe if he's ever ready for that, that time will come. He could reach out
Starting point is 00:52:47 to you, but I feel like you could send that at the wrong time and there could be a very wrong reaction that might make you feel terrible, him feel terrible. You know what I mean? Of course, I have a fear of rejection, but I don't want the baby to feel rejected. I don't know who my biological father is. And there's going to come a time where we do want to tell her, I'm not going to tell her the complete truth, but she's going to have to know that Johnny is not her biological father. Yeah. I don't know how that conversation is going to go, but I don't want to keep her in the dark and then her take on Ancestry.com.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And I don't want her to feel rejected. That's another reason why I haven't reached out because what if it comes to a time where she's older and she wants to reach out to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what that's, yeah, that's, listen, that guy and his role and who he is, it might not be the end of that story. Who knows? He, on some level, he knows there's a child out there that's his. He's probably hoping maybe you terminated or maybe he's living in denial right now. Or he's just smoking a bunch of weed and just not thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could have probably, that was his hope to just forget about it and never think about again. That might be the case. You don't know. But he might come back around. But what I do think is wonderful is that at least your husband, he was talking about. Like, I mean, he could imagine his life without this child. And that he's the father. her favorite person too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 They are like two peas in a pod. She looks like me and her biological father, but she acts like Johnny. Oh, she's been the biggest gift, too. Even with Johnny's parents, like they, they know. They know the truth. Oh, really? Because Johnny had a vasectomy. So, no one of my friends have really asked, is he the father?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Like, they just assume, I think, that either somebody else is the dad or. And they don't ask. They don't ask. As they shouldn't. We told his parents. Johnny told him the truth. He has this gink and I slept with somebody else and I got pregnant and we're choosing to have this baby.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And they love her just like our other children. And she, like I said, she's been the biggest blessing. She brings life to our house. Our other two kids love her so much. So she does have a purpose. She had a purpose for all of us. It was the way she was able to come here. Like, you know, like I said to Johnny, like I give.
Starting point is 00:55:08 him credit for being able to go through that. I think it probably because he was talking about how close you guys are and because of having this open relationship. But I think also because of going through what you went through. That's a really hardcore thing. There's so many layers to it. That's a real fucked up thing to have happened because like you add in that conversation with his parents and all the friends are going to know and how are you going to tell
Starting point is 00:55:30 your other kids and what there's there's so much to that to be able to get through it and come out on the other side and you have this beautiful baby and you see her as a gift is like wonderful. And now you guys are like back open. How was that experience recently that that you had with that guy being alone? I'm assuming it was great because you said you do kind of prefer it that way. Yeah, it was it's great. And it's kind of like, I don't want to say familiar because I had been with him before, but I don't know. We kind of just click and yeah, it's been working and I'm supposed to see him tomorrow. So we text every day and I let Johnny has full access of my phone and he can read whatever we text each other. And yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm just going with the flow. And I don't know about unprotected sex at the moment. I am not on birth control. Just so you know, that was my next question. I'm like, I want to ask, what I was going to say is I'm going to ask the obvious question that everyone in their car is thinking right now. Are you using protection? Yes, we are at the moment.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Okay. What do you mean at the moment? At the moment, I might get on birth control. Who knows? For now, we are using protection. You do use protection. You've learned from this mistake. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Yes. Okay, you don't sound that positive. No, I'm saying. I don't want any babies right now. Okay. Okay, no more babies. I know that you love this baby, but you don't need another one. No.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You have three kids of your own, right? Well, two. Yeah, we had the two and then. Oh, okay, so this is the third. So now you prefer seeing solo guys. Is that the way you're going to keep it? Like you're happy with this guy and everything? For right now, maybe in the future it might change.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Like I said, I'm just going with the flow and this is what's working for us right now. Yeah. And we'll just see how it goes. Like I said earlier, it's the, it's the note. pressure kind of thing that's it's kind of freeing that enjoying is it hot to come i know that it's hot for him for you to come home and tell him like all the details what about for you is there so absolutely because i love how turned on he gets by it too right and that and that turns me on more that's your thing you're into pleasing right and turning on yes yes yes oh my god what a fucking interesting
Starting point is 00:57:28 story okay i'm glad i did it where we had johnny on first and then you because there was a little discrepancy there but it's interesting to hear it's always interesting to hear both sides Thank you for both of you for coming on and telling this story. It's pretty scandalous. Does anyone besides your parents know? Yes, I have two friends that know the truth. I don't think he doesn't really have anybody to talk to about it. And I have these two friends to talk to about it.
Starting point is 00:57:52 So this was kind of like a release for him too to be able to let it out, I think. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Well, wait until you guys hear your story as a third person. It's always fascinating to hear. I think when you listen back to your episode. But do me a favor, Lee. I forgot to tell Johnny, if you guys could send me in some pop picks of yourselves,
Starting point is 00:58:10 like even if it's just you, like, you know, for my Patreon, anonymous pictures, of course, and just R rated, nothing X rated. You got it. I tell people that and they still send me pussy shots. I'm like, no, I told you R rated. R rated me. I don't want to see nipples. No hustler.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Okay. Yeah, no hustler. Thank you. That's actually the way I should describe it more now. I think people understand that. Thank you. Yes, that. So send them to me sooner than later.
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