Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1184 - Tim is Into Guys & Crossdressing and his Wife is Cool with All of It

Episode Date: August 1, 2025

FETISH FRIDAY: Tim got into guys and crossdressing in his twenties and his wife is down with it and he called in to talk all bout it. Tune in to hear him discuss all the details including the first time he wound up trying on panties and how he felt when he put them on,  how he started to realize he was into guys sexually and when it really clicked, how and why he decided to be super honest on datong apps about everything he’s into and how that worked out for him, why he hasn’t been with a guy yet even though he has wanted to for a long time, how his wife found out about what he’s into and how she felt about it, the role playing they do in the bedroom to mock up guy on guy action and how the fear that gets in her way when they discuss it becoming a reality, how she feels about him dressing up around her as well as while intimate,  where he buys his clothing and the style/vibe of clothing he digs, how often he dresses and why, how and why he fantasizes about being with a guy more now then ever and how he also has a cuck fantasy, how his wife feels about that fantasy, his cuck gone very wrong story, what he can do to get his wife more confortahbe with him hooking up with guy in real life plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.  Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://liferx.md⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Load Boost and Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee  Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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drug. So he talks about that first experience of, you know, wearing panties. And then we progress onto there. This is a guy who's very honest about what he's into. When it comes to guys, he hasn't fooled around with the guy. But he's, he's, really wants to, but he's also the type of guy that needs to be connected to somebody, and he's very cautious about who, you know, that guy is going to be that he's going to hook up with, and that's why he hasn't been with anyone. He is married, and his wife does know about everything. And other girlfriends have known about his other stuff, too, and he talks about how and why he was always honest about all of his stuff, how he weeded out girls that weren't going to be into it, how

some girls that said they were into it, how they acted later. And then we really get into his relationship with his wife and they play with toys and mock up the guy on guy situation and she's you know open to talking about the idea of them playing with another guy but she's not ready yet and we discuss all of that is so interesting on so many different levels because she knows about his cross-dressing she knows he's into guys she's still a little confused about it and not ready to pull the trigger and like I said go hook up with a guy and she's okay with him dressing and he explains all of it like I said it's a thousand times ready. It's a super interesting episode.

It is. Trust me. You're going to enjoy this one. So I'm going to get right tuned to be right back on with Tim. Hey, Tim. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? I'm doing great.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming on the show. You know, in all my 11 years of doing the show, I think I never say any other words. Then, hi, blah, blah, blah. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. Like, you'd think I'd fucking change it up by now. Every time to every guest. But listen, Tim, when you first called in, I didn't know like what we were going to talk about because you're like, oh, I'm kind of like, you know, romantically straight, sexually into guys, but I haven't had any experience with guys. I said, oh, well, I don't know if that's a whole episode. But then it turns out you also, you know, cross-dress a little bit. Now, I don't know if you put that word to it, but we will get there in your story. Your wife does know that you have a thing for guys when it comes to sex, right? It's not like a romantic thing. For some reason,

though you did consider yourself by and that term and what it means is always something different to different, you know, to people and stuff. But let's start with the whole guy thing or which came first, the guy thing or the dressing up thing. Probably the dressing up thing, right? Yep. The, the panties came first. Okay. So why don't we start there? Sure, sure. Absolutely. Yeah, I started wearing panties when I was previously engaged to my ex-fiance in my early 20th. I was basically just doing laundry while she was at work and folding clothes and, you know, just came across her panties and something just came across me where I was just like, you know what? I'm going to put these on and slip them on and just felt very, very, I guess, naughty and sexy, you know. And I think I kind of like the fact that I was wearing her panties and she had no idea, you know.

So I was, she was at work and I had those on and felt really kind of naughty. and I kind of liked the feeling of the lace, and I liked the feeling of kind of feeling feminine. So it just kind of took off from there. And after we broke up, bought my own, started getting into stockings as well, mini skirts, that sort of thing. And I kind of realized I really liked the feeling feminine or feeling feminine. Right. So that's what it was all about, right? Absolutely. Like in my daily life, I have to be very masculine, front facing. you know, that sort of thing and just kind of being able to go home and be different or be against

that sort of thing is like a freeing feeling to me. And it feels really sexy. Isn't that interesting? Because if you, and I do think that that's the case, right? And that's kind of why, like, do you remember that scene in Wolf of Wall Street, which is like one of the best movies ever where he's like tied up and dressed in a corset and being spanked in a, you know, and some to CEO in that is like, you know, in a dungeon somewhere wearing some sort of lingerie, you know, and it typically is that guy, the person who forward facing is the last one you'd ever think, right? Because they're the complete opposite in the regular life. But that's why it's freeing for them, like you said. Absolutely. That's the cool thing when you think about it. I'd do that all the time.

I'm walking downtown or something like that. And you walk by so many people. And you have no idea, you know, what they're up to when they get home. And, you know, nobody would ever walk by me and suspect that I go home and flip on a pair of pink panties. Well, I mean, that really is the point of my whole show. You know, I'm always kind of like, you know, I think when people think about, oh, a guy that wears this or, you know, a person that has that fetish or couples that fuck everybody in a glory hall, you know, like they think that they're like, there's like some sort of pervert island where all these people look a certain way and act a certain way and they're like very different kind of people. But no, they're like all, it's the people that are walking by you on the street. Like these are regular people that are maybe doing some, you know, out of the box things. But it's not like there are any different, right?

It's crazy. Exactly. It's interesting, though, to me, because I've talked to a lot of guys who like to dress up and wear feminine clothes because they like to get in touch with that side. But typically they, and I've heard it all, right? So it's always interesting, though, to hear someone who's a little bit different like you, who didn't pick this up until way later in their life. A lot of times these guys that are into this like you, they have things that happen when they're younger.

Like, I'm just going to ask one question about that. Like, if you really think back to when you were younger, were there any signs of you being into dressing up and getting in touch with your feminine side when you were young? I can say not in the slightest. Interestingly enough, I mean, when I was a kid, I was playing with Ninja Turtles and G.I. Joe's and, you know, going outside and playing manhunt, all that kind of fun stuff. and just had a very, very normal childhood, you know, as a boy. And just, you know, it was just this thing that struck me out of the blue where I was just like, you know, I feel like as I got older, I got a little bit more open-minded and explorative. And, you know, I got to a point where I was just like, you know what?

I'm constantly fascinated on like why other people like certain things. So for me, I was like, okay, well, women like wearing. panties. I want to see what, you know, what they like about it. So that was, to me, it wasn't even an initial, like, turn on. It was just like, I want to see what all the fuss is about. And then when I put them on, I was like, wow, these are really comfortable, but they're also making me, me feel very sexy. Interesting. So, yeah, that's, it's crazy because it didn't even really start, like, your intention wasn't where you wound up. Exactly. Exactly. Like, your attention wasn't like, oh, that makes, like, I'm going to put that on and feel like my girlfriend feels, you know,

or anything like that. It was kind of like, well, maybe you did want to feel like what she felt, right? That's what it was, kind of. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's, you know, I'm very, I'm always like a very curious person, obviously. Yeah. So for me, it's just like, okay, well, I want to see what it feels like to wear these. It was more kind of like an experiment more than anything else.

You know, I didn't think that it was going to be something that was initially going to turn me on. it was more so like, I wonder what these feel like. And then I slept them on and I was like, okay, well, now I'm excited. So obviously, I do like this. And it kind of just, you know, snowballed from there. Yeah, I love it. Listen, it makes your story more interesting to me because it isn't, you know, as common. But obviously, if you exist, I'm probably going to get emails from other people who are like, oh, yeah, that happened to me too, right? Like where there's one, there's many, it's just people don't talk about these things, you know? So were you freaked out or are you just used to yourself being curious and you were like okay with the fact that you're kind of doing this secretly.

I wasn't freaked out. It was more so like, huh, that's interesting. That's your curious brain. Like, oh. Exactly. Exactly. And then once, you know, I get to a point where I start to realize like I do like something or, you know, I'm turned on by something, then I just kind of let it run free from there, you know. So, you know, it was shortly after that that I was buying my own panties and masturbating in panties and, you know, going to the next step in getting stockings and I was like okay well tannies made me feel that way and women like feeling really sexy in those thigh high stockings let me try those and then you know that feeling kind of escalated and then it escalated into little mini skirts and stuff like that and I kind of just like feeling

like a bit sexy and slutty and so that kind of just snowballed into all of it yeah and then does the guy thing tie into that because when you're like is that when you're kind of thinking about men more so like when you are dressed, you know, in those feminine clothes or is the interest in men both times, like when you're in your male alpha form as well as when you're feeling, you know, slutty? I think it started that way. And then it kind of grew into more so the majority of the time. So when I would dress up and things like that, I'd like to kind of fantasize that I was a woman. And, you know, there was a guy that was, you know, saw me as a woman. and I liked feeling that kind of sexy femininity in the fantasy.

Yeah. And then once that, you know, happened for a little while, it just kind of started leaking over into my everyday life where I got to a point where it's just like, you know, I just was looking. I found myself looking at like dicks all the time in porn. I noticed that I was just like kind of fixated on the dicks in the porn. And I'm like, and then that went into trans porn. then that went into just solo guy porn and then into gay porn. So it just kind of, you know, naturally progressed. Hey guys, you ever wish you could blow a bigger load to really impress your girl?

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younger? Or is this literally the first time that also comes up for you? No, it was a little bit later in life as well. I was, you know, I dated girls and was only interested in girls all through high school and early college. And I met a girl in my early 20s. It was a girl that I was engaged to. And, you know, she was kind of a bit on the kinkier side. And I was a very straight-laced guy. Like, before I met her, I probably had, I waited until I was 18 to have sex. I waited until I was 21 to drink, like very, very straight-laced by the book kid. Right. Very lucky parents. So once I met this girl, it kind of opened up.

my mind a little bit and I remember getting drunk one night with her and I said to she said to me, hey, how would you feel about like introducing another guy into the bedroom? And surprisingly, I got excited when she said that. And before that thought never crossed my mind or anything. So I think, you know, because I was so straight laced through my early adult life and childhood and all that kind of stuff, I got to a point where I was just like, you know what, let's give it a go. again like back to that interest of like trying new things or or seeing what it's like and you know when i put on the panties it was like okay what do women like about this so it was kind of that same mindset as okay well what do women like about dicks it's got to be something there so that's why i'm curious

exactly and because you weren't as repressed when you were younger like you were probably not open to that part of you as much but it was always there right and that girl just helped you uncover it Exactly, exactly. The thoughts never crossed my mind when I was younger, but I'm, you know, I can't say like now that it wasn't something that was, you know, hidden or it was in the back of my mind that just never really came to the forefront. Until you felt more comfortable, right? Exactly. You know, you, as with anybody, I think, you know, I mean, society is totally different these days, which is great. But, you know, there was a time, especially when I was growing up in the 80s and early 90s and things like that. kids in school are calling each other gay as like a slur and, you know, all of that. And I think that's, you know, once you kind of get that person in your life that kind of opens that up and says, hey, you know, that's okay.

That kind of makes a world of a difference and you let your guards down. Yeah, for sure. So that, that girl, was she the one that you were taking the panties from, too? Yep, that was her. So there was a, got to a point where, you know, I told her all about that. And, you know, she was, she kind of giggled at it and was actually, like, really cool with it. So, you know, from then on, I was very, very open with all the girls that I dated. And, you know, when I was single, I would put on the apps, like, I would be very just straightforward on my bio about it.

I knew it was going to limit who I connected with. But I kind of wanted to weed out anybody that didn't like me for everything I am. Wow. How old are you, by the way? You're young, I'm sure. I'm 42. Oh, okay. Well, that's pretty cool.

And did you get a lot of, like, did you feel like it affected your DMs? A lot. Oh, really? A lot. Yeah. There were months where you had cobwebs and then there were months where, you know, I think the most curious thing I had in my dating adventures on these apps is I connected with a bisexual female and we were talking for a little while.

And when I brought up that I was bisexual, she was like, oh, sorry, I don't date by men. and then just disconnected with me. Yeah, well, what a dumb time? Because I had a guy on recently, what's his name? Zachary Zane. He's kind of like they call him the bi-con, right? He's a bi-guy guy. He's very out and proud.

And he said, you know, he actually feels, he has got a bisexual girlfriend. And he explained how and why. That's probably the best match for bi people. Absolutely. I fully agree. Yeah, totally. Okay, so that girl, you told her everything.

But eventually you guys broke out, obviously not for the things. Why have you never up into this point, even though that girl was open to it? Like, why have you never crossed the line and tried to hook up with a guy? I have high anxiety, and I'm very, very, very safe person. I don't sleep around a lot. I think every person that I've slept with or had any kind of sexual relationships, it's been a long-term relationship.

So I can count on both hands the amount of women I've slept with. So for me, when I'm single, I normally don't sleep around. So I don't have any romantic feelings for men in the slightest. And because of that, I haven't hooked up with any men because I feel like I need to have like a romantic attraction to hook up. And so for me, it just never happened. And I know that guys sleeper or tend to sleep around a lot. And in that instance, I always worry about things. and I'm a very, very safe person.

So for me, it's just I've never gotten around to doing it. I've always wanted to in a relationship, you know, with my girlfriend. Yeah. But I just haven't found the right woman that is open to that yet. Well, you are married and your wife does know. So why isn't she the right person? Like, let's go to the point. Well, we'll get there.

Let's talk a little bit about your marriage and the woman that you're with. And when you brought up, does she know about your dressing up as well as the guy, thing? She does, yeah, absolutely. And it's kind of one of those things where she's like, I know about it, I'm okay with it, I'm understanding of it, but it's not my thing. Right. But talk to me about how you brought all this stuff up to her, like when and what you said and how she reacted, because I think that that's always helpful information to people listening who maybe want to be more open about their situation with their partners. I mean, this girl married you, so obviously you did it the right way. Yeah, it's taken a lot of

trial and error to get to the point of like when you can figure out the right time to do it for for me I think I've I've in the past I've waited a little while and then it got to a point where because it took some time and they realized that they realized that later on in the relationship then you know it problems arose after that so for me I decided hey I'm just going to let her know early on so when we first started talking, we met on Hinge and we discussed it on Hinge. I put on my bio that I was bisexual, interested sexually in men that I do like to dress up, that sort of thing. And she connected with me anyway, and she brought it up early on.

And I told her, and she was like, I just want to let you know, that's not my thing personally, but I'm the kind of person that I think everybody has their thing and I'm totally okay with it. I'm okay with, you know, what you want to do in your own time, but it's not something that I would be interested in in the bedroom between us. Wow. So she, so you, you didn't even kind of have to have to have that conversation or that conversation wasn't scary at all because you had weeded out, anyone that would have be down on your profile. I mean, that's really smart to put it really all out there, even the dressing thing there. And she responded. So it wasn't like you had to like bring it up on the third date or anything like that. I mean, you eventually did talk about it, of course, but she knew ahead of time before you talked about it, right? It was like kind of the unspoken thing. Exactly. And it's still a conversation that gets brought up from time to time, you know, where I'm the kind of person I don't like to be pushy. So I will just bring it up on occasion just to see where her mind is. You know, if we go further and further into our relationship,

if maybe she feels more comfortable to try new things. And, you know, we have bought toys. And, you know, she's open to trying things with, like, buildos and anal stuff for me and things like that. So she's open to it. It's just, for me, it's having that respect of, you know, okay, don't want to cross any boundaries. And I want to be comfortable or have you be comfortable in our relationship as well.

And so it's just kind of right now walking that fine line and just kind of. of moving slowly with it and seeing what she's open to. Well, do you mock up the situation with toys? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, she will be perfectly fine with, you know, we have dirty talk during sex and we pretend that the toy is a male. Yeah. And, you know, she'll talk dirty to me about it and ask if I want to do things to, you know, the guy and all that. So that is in there. So I think really, I'm just hoping eventually for the step of, you know, let's bring a real guy into this situation. Yeah, but how are you going to get there with all of your hangups? I'm very wired like you, right?

I think people who are very curious think a lot, right? And sometimes we overthink, you know what I'm saying? And think very deeply into things and we could see so much in a situation. And therefore you take less risk because you're kind of like more aware, you know? So how do you see it actually work? for you. If you're not, because you kind of like, you know, you have two things going on that kind of counteract against each other. Like you have this part of you that doesn't sleep around and you're very demisexual, right? You need to feel that kind of connection. I get that with someone to

be turned on. But yet you're sexually attracted to men, but you're not romantically attracted to them. So you're never going to have that kind of connection. But would it be like if you were friends with the guy who could work out? Like how would it work out that you would even get to that? that point where you would say, okay, this guy I want to be with. Like, how do you see that in your head happening? Yeah, I think that's, that is the perfect scenario right there. If it's like a, a guy that I'm close friends with. Okay. You know, it doesn't have to be a guy that I'm in love with or have romantic feelings for, but if it's somebody that I know and somebody that I trust and, you know, you kind of have that rapport with them. Yes. Then I feel like that would be a perfect

situation. You know, I've lived with gay men in the past. And the only reason is, you know, the only reason like I haven't mess around with them is because I've seen how many guys they bring home every night and I you know I hear all the all their stories and stuff like that and I'm just like I don't know so for me it's like if it that situation comes along obviously I run the risk of if I'm always waiting for that you know amazing perfect situation I run the risk of never doing it so for me it's you know I think you brought up the you know a good friendship I think that would be a perfect situation. Right. And listen, you can just like you, I mean, okay, so let me ask you this too. Your girl, has she said it is okay? And you remind me, maybe you've said this right, but has she said

it's okay that you guys eventually do sort of bring a guy into the situation? Is that on the table at all? I think it's on the table. She hasn't said no. She has said no for right now. She said, I don't see that as something that I would be into currently. But I think the situation, the door is open for it. So it's really just when she feels ready. And for me, you know, I will bring it up every now and then. She knows that I want to. But it's just a matter of for me, just being cognizant of her feelings as well.

And, you know, hopefully we'll get to that point where she wants to do it as well. Because for me, it's like, I want her to be as turned on as I am. I don't like being, you know, a selfish person. And what turns me on is seeing her turned on over the situation, too. Of course. Let me ask you this. What do you think is her hesitation? What do you think is her reason for like, I'm okay with it, but not now?

I think she still believes that, or she has a belief that I will run away with a guy. And I've explained to her a bunch of times, like I don't have that sort of feeling for men. But, you know, she has had in her life, she's had, she told me recently about, you know, her brother's friend that was married for many years with kids and then came out as gay and started a new life with his boyfriend. Yeah. And those types of fears are in her mind, which I totally understand. Yeah. But being the person that feels the way I feel, you know, it's also hard for me to understand because I know how I feel and what kind of feelings I have towards men. else. Yeah, but the sad thing is in life, and don't we wish this wasn't the case, that we're never

like in somebody else's brain. So, you know, she's in her brain. She knows, you could say that all you want and you could know that all you want. But because she's not you, she's not 100% sold, you know, because of course that's going to be her bigger fear. She's in love with you or her husband, you know, so you could understand it for sure. But she really, maybe it's a matter of educating her more in the fact that like there are so many guys out there that being that have this same kind of thing like they want to be with a guy but they would never romantically fall for them. You know what I mean? It's not like you're totally bisexual where you would date a guy but you're happy with your girl, right? Like you don't have any desire like you don't feel those kinds of feelings for men. It's just a matter of like hooking up with one. Correct? It's like your erotic orientation. There is a great episode. Maybe you should have her listen to. I had a guy Dr. Cordon and I had a guy Dr. Cordon. And I, always repeat the episode because it's super great. And he talked about how there's sexual orientation and erotic orientation. Sexual orientation is somebody that would like another guy, also have sex as another guy, be with that. But an erotic orientation is like somebody who's just like, you know,

maybe we'll suck a dick in the middle of something because it's like a hot thing, you know, it's just like erotic and at the time, but it doesn't mean anything more. And erotic orientation. Sexual orientation is somebody that would like another guy, also have sex as another guy, be with that. But and erotic orientation is like somebody who's just like, you know, maybe we'll suck a dick in the middle of something because it's like a hot thing, you know, it's just like erotic and at the time, but it doesn't mean anything more. And there's plenty of people out there. I have talked to so many guys. And listen, everyone's talking to me anonymously. So nobody has a reason to lie, right? If these guys that were secretly sucking dick really also secretly

wanting to leave their wives and go marry a guy, they'd be telling me and they don't, you know. It really does exist. But I, listen, I get why she. would be worried because that's everybody's fear if everybody has a fear of abandonment. How long have you been with your girl? We've been together for four years now. Right. Okay. And she's known.

Now, let me get back. We'll get back to the guy think, but let me just get back to the cross-dressing thing with her. Real quick, like, do you, like, how do you dress? Because, like, she's like, I'm fine with it, but I'm not into it. So how does your dressing up, you know, go down at your house? Is it something you do when she's not around? Do you ever do it with her?

Like, what's the deal? Yeah, I've done it with her once. And, you know, she just kind of, like, we were just having normal conversations and things like that. She wasn't feeling very sexual about it. I would say 99% of the time I'm doing it while she's at work or she's out with friends. And, you know, enjoying my alone time, I guess. Mm-hmm. Listen, I don't think, I think, you know, it's probably, and this is where her fear comes from.

I think the fact that you also like to dress probably makes her worry more, right? Think about it. Like, how could he not be gay? You know, that's what everyone thinks. And most cross-dressers aren't gay. It's not like, oh, you're a cross-dester and you like to dress up as a woman and get in touch with a feminine side. It means you're gay. It's not the case at all.

Even with guys who like to wear panty hose. It's more so they're like, like, like, to wear panty hose and, like, admire their likes to pretend they're with a woman with a hose. It's like they love women, you know, and a lot of cross-dressers are straight. But, you know, I think. that doesn't help you in her mind of her and her fear, right? Because you've got two things going on that totally would point to the regular person who has isn't like me. Listen, I know a lot about things because I've been doing my show for 11 years. I'm a super open-minded person. Your girl sounds like a super open-minded person. But if I didn't know what I knew on my show and I was with a guy that not only

wanted to suck a dick and would be with a guy, but also wanted to dress up sometimes as a girl, I would definitely kind of there would be a part of me that wouldn't believe the fact that he says he won't go any further with the guy. You know what I'm trying to say? Yep, 100%. And that's where, you know, the conversation always has to be semi-delicate, you know, and understanding. And I think that plays a big role into hopefully eventually her, you know, comfort level increasing. It was just being understanding about how she's feeling. And, you know, I always make sure to mention, like, I get where you're coming from.

I get how you're feeling. And I feel like, and I've told her this, that I don't think that fear will ever 100% go away until I show you that, I mean, what I say. Exactly. Yeah. When the situation finally happens and I don't run away with a guy, then you'll know. Right. But her biggest fear is like she takes that. That's a gamble, right?

She's like at the craps table. We all know it's 100% not a chance going to happen, but she doesn't, right? And so she's like worried about maybe even that five. percent chance. I do think it's about educating her. You know, that same guy, Dr. Joe Court, wrote a book about guys who like to dress up and stuff. And he wrote a book for women who are with those kinds of guys to understand them more and understand it doesn't mean that they're gay and they can be straight and all that kind of good stuff that maybe she needs. It's not just about you having conversations. You know, you've already told her everything from your standpoint, but maybe she needs

to really understand these fetishes and these kinks more, you know, outside of you, right? Because, like, listen, she, you're her husband. She loves you. She believes you to a certain point. But that part of her that is cautious and afraid, maybe she needs a little education. She needs to hear it from somebody else other than you, right? Of course you're going to say, don't worry about it, right? Because you just want to do it in her mind, right? That's probably some part of her things that. But if she goes and hears other people saying the same thing, like that might help. I mean, I don't think it might. I think it would definitely would. Yeah. And she actually introduced me, funny enough, to a couple that she follows on Instagram. And the couple, the male is 100% gay.

And they talk about it on Instagram all the time. And, you know, they get questions from everybody on Instagram. Like, if you guys are married, like, how are you married when he's gay? And, you know, for him, He was like, well, for me, it's like there's a deep soul connection between both of us. And it's something that transcends, you know, male, female, any of that kind of stuff. And she makes it a point to, like, send me, send me this stuff all the time because I think, like, she gets some comfort, I guess, in, you know, seeing that there are other people out there that have that sort of situation or different situations from the norm. and I think, you know, like you said, the more education that she gets and the more she sees, it's not, you know, not necessarily an everyday thing, but more people than she would think, you know, that these kind of lives. Yeah, but that's like the worst example that she's looking. Like she's not looking properly, okay?

Right. She's not this guy who's gay, but it has a sole connection. This isn't your story even close, okay? They're not even close to you guys. but there are and what's great is I know for a fact because I have talked to these people and maybe you pass on this fucking episode to her okay does she know you're calling into the show or is this a big fat secret she does not okay but maybe one day you say listen to this I didn't you didn't know I was doing this this is exactly my truest feelings you know like I said there's something

about the fact when people call me up and they're doing it privately and whatever that they're gonna be you know they're being a hundred percent honest you know I'm saying like this is the truth because no one needs to lie to mean. I don't even know who the fuck anyone is. No one knows who I am either. So I get the truth, right? So this is the truth of your situation or maybe pass on other episodes. But like she she needs to look at the right couples to compare. And there are plenty of couples like you. That couple is not even close. It's the wrong example. Even though it's an example that helps her feel better, it's not the right example. You're not gay. There's a different. There's nothing wrong with being gay. Okay. But you're, not gay. You will never fall romantically into a guy, right? Do you know that for sure for yourself? Yes, 100%. Okay. You did say in your email, and let's clear this up, like I once identified as bisexual, what does that mean? So right now, I feel like my sexuality leans men. I get a lot more excited, and I tend to think a lot more about men in my fantasies. So I feel like sexually, I've been leaning a lot more in the male direction.

Right. And it's probably because you can't fulfill that fantasy. You know, what you resist persists, right? That's what they say. So the more you're denied of what you want, the more you're going to want it,

right? It's like the it's you can't scratch. Don't you think that has something to do with it? I'm sure it does. Yeah, it's the forbidden fruit. Yeah, just like the panties in the beginning. Mm-hmm.

Yep, 100%. Yeah, unfortunately. That's why cheating sex is sometimes so great. It's a fully fucking charged. Sad, but true. Okay, so yeah, she needs, like, better education. She needs to know that there are people and there is a label. You know what I mean for a guy that just, like, might want to, like, suck a dick,

but it doesn't mean anything, you know? Do you know, when it comes to guys, like, what is your fantasy and what do you see yourself doing? Like, are you a top? Are you a bottom? Are you just into oral? I mean, I've kind of heard it all. Yeah, I'm a bottom. I like my biggest fantasy with men is probably dressing up you know wearing panties uh stockings miniskirt

just kind of being able to act femme and to be a bottom for a guy um you know dominate be dominated and have the guy just kind of like i really like masculine men um you know tall muscular masculine and well-hung men. And so my fantasy is to just have a guy and do whatever he wants to do to me, like, you know, oral, anal, all of it. You want to be used. You're the slutty girl. I got it.

I like the slutty vibe. Yep, 100%. And, you know, a lot of the fantasies involve multiple men, so. Yeah. Oh, my God. You want to be used and abused. Yep. Well, it turns out gang bang porn is supposedly, like, highly downloaded by women.

A lot of women supposedly have that as their fantasy. And I know, listen, I know most women are not going to go out and do it, right? It's just a fantasy. But a lot of guys do have that fantasy. But yeah, I think it's a really hard sell. I get why your girl doesn't understand it. And you really need for her to become much more educated on cross-dressing and stuff. Because like I said, it's so like to anyone else, it would be like, yeah, duh, of course he's into guys.

And he will totally, if he met a guy could leave you. Like he wants to be a woman. He wants to get fucked in the ass. You know, all signs point to the fact that, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're gay, but, but in, in the world of, like, kinks and fetishes, that's not true, you know, but most people aren't educated on that stuff. They're just not. I agree.

You know? Totally agree. And so does, so does she peg you? Like, how do you play around with, um, the toys and everything with her? Uh, it usually is, we have two toys. I have, um, one for oral and one for anal. And, um, you know, usually she will just use the dildo on me and then, you know, she will kind of run with the fantasy that, you know, it's a guy that is, you know, having sex with me or a guy that I'm sucking his dick.

And she'll kind of talk dirty to me and walk through it and ask if I like it and, you know, say, I notice how excited you are, all that kind of stuff. So it's really hot. You know, when she does it, it just, it's, that's where the line is drawn for right now. So. Yeah, well, listen, that's, that's where typically things start. And a lot of times, and I love having like newbie stories on, especially with couples that maybe got into hot wiping or swinging. I love the couples who took it really fucking slow, you know, and played the long game because that's

very realistic. And it works a lot of the times. I've heard those long game stories, right? And a lot of times they start with, A, being honest, which you've already done, be roleplaying, which you're doing, you know. And sometimes it's role playing for a while before that other partner becomes. okay with this to happen in real life. I mean, she's already said okay to another guy, but not now.

Now, let me ask you this. If a guy was set up tomorrow and she's okay with it, does she get to fuck that guy too? Do you have that fantasy or is it just you with the guy? Oh, yeah, 100%. I have the cuckold fantasy as well. So she would be more than welcome to. Okay, so does she know that? Have you talked about that to her?

And what does she say about that? Yes. Because, oh, my God, you've brought up a lot for your poor girl. girl. She's dealing with a lot of shit that you're into that she's got to understand all tied up and one guy. Yeah. I mean, she didn't say much to it. She just said, okay, well, that's noted. So she didn't seem like excited by it or she didn't seem turned off by it. It was more so like, okay, well, that's good to have in the, you know, in the cards if it comes up. Right. Do you think that she's turned on by the guy on guy thing when she does it or she just

great at role play and does it for you and does it well? Um, I think right now, I think she does it because it turns me on. She said that she likes seeing me turned on. Yeah. It turns her on to see me turned on. And I feel the same way, you know, about her. So I think it does turn her on, but I think it turns her on that I'm turned on by it. Yeah, but that's a thing.

That sometimes is the reason why the person is turned on. You know what I mean? That is like it's turned on by you being turned on. So therefore, she is turned on, not just doing it for you. She's doing it for her because she gets horned. because you're horny, right? Exactly. Yeah, that's Comperion.

Yeah, that's Comperion. So she's into it. That's amazing. Yeah, it's a very good sign. That's for sure. Yeah. And now, okay, let's go back to the dressing a little bit. Like, do you have like a whole stash?

Do you have your clothes in the closet hanging up next to hers? Are you guys the same size? We're close to the same size. I have my own stash. Yeah, I have a nightstand next to the bed. And I have a full drawer full of outfits. And I know you said you like slutty stuff. Like where do you get your outfits from?

And where do you buy your stuff? And do you have particular colors or whatever that you like or brands or places to buy stuff? I usually do a mixture of Victoria's Secret. I do Amazon. Amazon has like a bigger selection than I would have thought. Yeah. You know. Of what?

Of what? Like stuff for guys, you mean? Like, what do you, when you say that, what do you mean? Like mini skirts and stockings, tannies, that sort of thing. For a low price, too, which is great, right? Because you don't want to, like, you're not like a woman going out on a date in her alpha. You're not going to blow, like, 300 bucks on something, right?

So you want, like, stuff that's not that expensive because you're just dressing up at home, correct? Exactly. Exactly. And it's like, it's just very nice that I can just get it delivered to my mailbox, you know? I don't have to go out. And, you know, early on, I was worried that. if I was looking for stuff that, you know, the people would be looking at me like,

what is he looking at any skirts for? Of course. Yeah, yeah. Do you do the shoes too? I know you do the hose. What kind of hose do you like and do you do shoes? I haven't done shoes yet. I do mainly like thigh high stockings, like fish nets at times or just like cute thigh highs

that have like bows on the back by the thighs, that sort of thing. Yeah, that's kind of slutty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I like, you know, for color, the girlier, the better. So I tend to go for, like, pink panties, red panties, purple, you know, that sort of thing. And always lace. And do you stop, like, waist, like, do you stop, it's just waist down dressing up?

Or do you do anything on the top? I haven't done anything at the top yet, but I would like to. I, you know, in my everyday life, I have a beard and, you know, all of that sort of stuff. So for me, it's like right now, it's just. just a lace down, but I think eventually I'd love to just have like a full outfit just to see how it feels. Yeah. And how often do you dress? Like how many times is it weekly? Is it monthly? Daily? I'd probably say a couple of times a month. Okay. A handful of times a month. And is it something that like you go to when you're horny, you go to when you're bored,

you go to when you're stressed out or maybe all of the above? Tends to be when I'm horny. Okay. Yeah. I, I, I think that's the majority of it. There's never been a time where I've dressed up and it didn't lead to masturbating. So I think that's like the initial, you know, it kind of intensifies everything when I'm masturbating. So that's kind of the point of doing it for me. But also, you know, if it's a stressful day, I get home, I'm just like, okay, well, I just want to dress up, you know. So I think the majority of it is it's the turn on for me.

And now do you dress up with your girl ever, like when you're intimate with her? Has she ever allowed that? Yeah, I've worn panties during sex a couple of times. Did I ask that already? No. Okay, go. Yeah, I've worn panties a couple times during sex, not like fully dressed up or anything. And that's always fun for me.

And it turns me on a lot and she notices that. So I think she likes that. We don't really, we haven't done anything other than that. yet. But yeah, we've, we've done the panties during sex. Okay, so that's pretty major. I mean, listen, your girl is really chugging along. This has been a four-year process of, like, moving forward with all of these things, like, or was like everything like this from the get-go? Yeah, it was a process, you know, and I'm very, very understanding of that. I've been with, you know, a couple of girlfriends in the past that we're off to the races right away about it. And, you know, as you were saying, like the

the kind of slow growth is very helpful and it's a good thing. I've learned that along the way because, you know, I've had relationships where we've jumped into it and it didn't end well. You know, I had an ex-girlfriend before that we talked early on about like cucking and things like that. And after one or two conversations about it, she just went off and did it without any kind of, you know, sit down and talk. Wait, she went out and fucked another guy.

I love a cuck gone wrong. story tell me this story no offense yeah we just talked about it early on a couple of times and you know it's like yeah I would definitely be interested in that you know we should kind of sit down and set boundaries and ground rules and you know things that we're comfortable with things we're not comfortable with so you know next next thing you know I come come home from work and there's a guy in the bedroom you know fucking her she's like I thought we discussed and we were okay with it so yeah but Tim okay let me ask you looking back because you're an analyzer like you know at the conversations like what did you do wrong like obviously there was a miscommunication did you say

you can't do this when i'm not a rat like you know what went wrong in that situation that this happened so that and i always ask these questions because you know it's like people learn from people's mistakes right you learned other people will learn like what do you think how do you guys fuck up so bad i think it's because i came in too hot and excited about it um you know it was the the the first girlfriend i had that was like really into that kind of fantasy and i was like oh we've got this really hot shared fantasy and I would really love for this to happen. So I think we talked about it during sex. We're fantasizing about it, you know, during sex and everything. And, you know, I think she kind of picked up on how excited I was about it. So I think initially she thought, okay, well,

if he's that excited and turned on about it, I can just go ahead and do it. But did you discuss any rules or regulations like you can't do this when I'm not home and we do it together? Or was it like you wanted her to play solo? No, we never got to that point. It was, It was just like, she's like, okay, well, he's turned on by the conversation, so I'm going to go and do it. And that's where, you know, the problem started because I was just like, we didn't get to the point of, you know, having a conversation about what we're comfortable with, you know, if I need to be there or, you know, what you're comfortable with. Because for me, it's like I didn't like the thought of, like, someone sticking around afterwards and, like, them cuddling and, you know, stuff that I feel like a couple would do aside from just like. some guy coming over and having sex. Yeah, of course.

So, yeah, that whole relationship went south real quick just because, you know, she afterwards found out that she was talking to a lot of different guys on, she was on Tinder and all sorts of other stuff. How long did you dating her before this came up? Like, was this really right in the beginning? Yeah, the whole relationship lasted three months. So we were all happy. Yeah, so that was a big lesson learned.

And I think, you know, when you brought up taking everything slow and kind of, you know, going step by step, I think learned a lot of lessons in that quick relationship. Yeah, listen, some people, I've heard every different story, and I can understand how every different story works in context. I think, you know, the reason why I talk to people for like an hour, you know, and do my show is because I could talk to a hundred cheaters, but every single story is going to be completely different if you listen to the whole thing. The titles may all sound the same, but trust me, the stories are very different and every story is unique, and I've heard them all. And, you know, I've heard, I love the long game story. I've also heard a lot of times, you know, people. second, third marriages, they go right into like swinging on the first, like, they're like, this is what I'm going to do because it kind of been there, done that, you know what I mean?

They're older. They realize they just want to fucking live it up, like whatever, you know, all different things can work. But I think, you know, what's most important is to know thyself, know your partner. It's always very important and you're obviously this type to be very respectful of your partner's feelings and their pace. and it sounds like you are, and I think that that's what's most important and why you stay married to your girl with her knowing all this stuff. You're completely open and honest.

You don't push her for anything. She's super cool, too. I mean, you're very lucky. Oh, absolutely. I think myself for that every single day. She's a great woman. And, you know, for me, it's like, okay, this is, you know, a kink. And it is a big part of what I'm into and who I am, you know, on a side of who I am at least.

and it's an important part. And she's at least trying and open to certain things. And to me, even if it doesn't come to the full-fledged, you know, having a guy come over, I think for me anyway, it's enough for me because, you know, she, if I have a partner that's trying and listening and is open to the things that turn me on, I think that's great. So it's, I definitely feel like I've got a winner. Yeah, well, that was going to be one of my next questions, which, would be like, you know, how, because this itch is getting a little stronger and because this is

something that you want to do and because you're kind of close, but yet still so far, you know, how do you feel like you, how much longer do you feel like you could wait? So you could wait forever, right? Like you would never cross the line do anything? But let me ask you this. Do you like go on line and play around with guys or do anything like that? Or like, you know, how do you get off on the guy thing just with yourself? without sort of going out there and doing anything else? It's just as simple as watching porn. And she knows, you know, she knows that I watch that kind of porn and, you know,

that I like the guy on guy stuff or the solo guy stuff, trans stuff, all of that. And, you know, that's how I get myself off and kind of like scratch that itch. And, you know, it's been enough for me for many, many years. And I let her know, I was like, look, if this does never happen, I would be disappointed. I'm not going to lie and say I wouldn't be, but it's not something that is going to end the relationship. It's not something that I will, I guess, you know, feel resentful towards. It's just as long as I see that she's open to it and like we can kind of role play in the fantasy world and all that, then for me that's enough because I have a good woman. But, you know, there will be some

disappointment there for sure. And when you say things like that to her, does she like reassure you and say, oh, I feel like, you know, I'll probably get there one day, but, you know, just not yet. Like, what, what's her, like, response when that kind of conversation comes up? Yeah, she's always just like, let's keep the communication open and hopefully, you know, we can get there one day. And, you know, for me, I think as long as she's trying and she's open to, you know, to continuing the conversation, then that is a positive sign for me. Oh, yeah.

Listen, I'm an opportunist. and I don't think enough people are, okay? Like, I'm always like, if you even see the slightest bit of a window being open, fucking take it, okay? Because that's huge. The fact that she uses that terminology with you and says, you know, not now, but I hope in the, you know, that's major. That means she's not, it's not a definite no.

And as long as it's not a definite no, there's major hope in that. Absolutely. Yep, I agree. And I've had, you know, girlfriends in the past that it was just a straight up no, you know. Yeah, women know. And I've had girlfriends in the past, too, where, you know, they started saying that they were open to it and then, you know, just changed their mind totally. Of course. And so, you know, for me, it's like this, she's a keeper because she's, you know, she's trying.

She's open to it. And she's being open and honest about her feelings about it. Yes. And listen, she, she's not going to fall into the other categories of those other girls because you've already been with her long enough that if over time she was going to be like, you know what? I realize like this just isn't for me. That would have happened. You guys are like in Groundhog Day already. Like she knows everything.

You're doing it. You guys are fine. So that's not going to happen. The only thing that could happen is it progresses to where she becomes open at some point, which I think she very well will be. And, you know, listen, you have to get to the point where you're comfortable too, you know. Last question to you is, so say she says tomorrow, let's do this. like what is your plan to go on the apps and look for a guy and get like a conversation going so you could become friendly with somebody and get to know somebody?

Like how do you go about meeting the guy that you're with if it's a possibility? This is my last question. Yeah, I think I think that's the plan is in the past I've used field. The field app or Fed Life, you know, that sort of thing. And I think for me it's just creating, you know, an account for myself and allowing her to have access to it to. And both of us kind of running that and, you know, sitting down together and finding somebody together and then obviously taking that slow as well, you know, getting to know the person, hanging out a couple times and kind of building, you know, trust of relationship, that sort of thing.

And going from there. So that would be how I see it going down at least. Right. And then eventually you would like her to also be with the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

So I think, you know, having her having actually. to, you know, the account as well, for me would be paramount for that because, you know, she'd be able to talk. And also access to the guy, okay? Because she's going to feel more comfortable or less comfortable, depending on what this guy's about. And if she's not comfortable, you're not going to go there. But, like, most likely it's going to happen where you're both going to approve of the guy,

you know, and it might turn out that, like, when she starts to see who this other person is and realize that this person is, maybe, listen, maybe you're going to wind up with a gay man. I don't know, because, you know, some people do hook up, even though they're not. But, you know, if the other guy is also married and just buy and has a free pass, that might make her feel more safe than she imagined. You know what I'm saying? Like, you never know what's going to happen, but her being involved and knowing the guy is only going to help her feel more secure in the situation.

Does that make sense? Yes, and I'd be, you know, very much open to that. You know, if I'm at work one day and she feels comfortable. enough to go hang out with them, you know, or get to know them on her own. You know, I'm, as long as the communications there, I'm 100% open to that, you know, anything that makes her feel comfortable. Yeah, girls want to sniff shit out. Like, she's going to want to sniff that guy out. And that's going to make her feel better about the situation if you wind up. You as a curious person, the way you're wired, and because of your own morals and values in the way you roll, you're going to sniff out a good

person. You know what I mean? The right person. That's who you're going to feel comfortable with. And I think once she meets that person and gets to know them, that's going to really help a lot with her feeling more comfortable. So, yeah, that has to be on the table. I love your whole story. I want a part two a year from now. I don't know if you'll have the balls to be like, hey, listen to this. Okay. But if she listened to this episode, I feel like it would really change her mind on a lot of things in a positive way.

But I get, if you don't want to share it with her. But if not, go to that guy, Dr. Joe Quartz thing and look for that book. And then also, you go looking, you know, she likes to follow. couples that are like you guys on Instagram, go looking for people who are more in line with you and get her over to looking at them even more so she could have even more understanding of everything. But I really love your story and I'm so glad you called in. I think I'm going to post it this Friday for Fetish Friday because it's got a little fetish stuff in there. But it's a whole lot of a lot of things that's super interesting. Awesome. Well, I really appreciate it.

Yeah, it was super great and fun. I will give you free access to my Patreon for a month to see this stuff I have a private discord. I'll give you free access to that. You could go in there and check out all the stuff there. Go in us, Tim. Okay, use your name so people know who the fuck you are and use your episode. But it'll be up this Friday and if you want to send in any picks, you can. I don't know. Guys, it's mostly the girls that send in picks because they look in up. But you like dress up. If you want to send me a pick, if you dressed up for my cross-dressing tier, you can. Just no faces, of course, from the waist down. You could send a pick for that. I would air it for my cross-chesters. but thanks so much Tim for calling in.

I love this conversation. It was super fun. And I think it was like really interesting and people are going to learn from that. I hope so. That's great. I feel like relation, you know, kind of moves the world.

So that's an amazing thing. And I really appreciate all your time today. And it was a pleasure talking to you. Yeah, this was awesome. Thanks, Tim. Thanks so much for calling in. Thank you. Bye.

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