Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1190 - Linda is Fully Transitioned Female in a Poly Relationship w/a Couple

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

Linda is a fully transitioned female in a poly relationship with a couple but things didn’t start out that way! Tune in to hear her discuss all the details of her journey including when she realized... she was trans, when she came out to her parents and how they reacted, how and when she defined herself as a gay man and met her husband, how and when she came out as trans to her husband and how he reacted, how she then immediately started to fully transitioned, how she got into BDSM with her husband and what she’s down for, the issues that came up for her after she started hormones and how they led to her and her husband opening up their relationship, the guy she met and started hooking up with who was married himself, how he fell for him and how her husband felt about him developed by feelings for him, the first time she was able to have sex after her surgery and how that went down, how her parents felt about her surgery, how her husband passed and how and why she continued to still dated the guy and how his wife was okay with it all, how their throuple is set up and how long it’s lasted, how and why she lost the gay community when she transitioned and how her circle of friends has since changed, how different she feels now as a female vs when she was male, how sex is different as well plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.  Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://liferx.md⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Load Boost and Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee  Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Follow me at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because I change everyone's voices and everyone's names. You could call me from a phony number. I don't care to know exactly who you are. I just want to hear your true story. So if you got an interesting, true, naughty story that you want to talk about while renaming remaining anonymous, send me an email, strictly anonymous podcast.
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Starting point is 00:00:49 I change all the voices over there as well. They all get aired on my Patreon and some of them wind up on a confessions episode. Now, listen, since this is a fetish Friday episode. episode. What's great about my patron is I also have two separate tiers. Each tier, whether it's the hoser tour or the cross-dusters tier, it gets one extra episode a month, an exclusive episode. So the hoser tier gets one extra exclusive hoser episode. And the cross-dressing tier gets one extra cross-tressing episode and the one extra hoser episode. So hoser tier is $8 a month, cross-dester $10 a month. It's very specific. What's great about that is that you don't just get the episode for the month that
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Starting point is 00:02:20 trial. So if you want to check it out, SDC.com, use my code 37712 or just go to to the description and click on the link. The thing about SEC that everybody loves is it's not just a place to hook up, right? Like you could post picks. It's an online date adult website. But it also has all the munches and the meet and greets and the parties and all that kind of good stuff in your area as well as in every area. So if you're traveling and you want to meet other cross-dusters like you, maybe you could look for them over at SDC. You get a free trial, click on the link or use my code 37712. Okay, today I have on Linda. Linda's super interesting. Linda wanted to call in. because Linda has been listening to my show forever and has heard my other conversations with other
Starting point is 00:03:05 trans women. Linda is a fully trans woman and wanted to call in and tell her story because she didn't start out as a crush or anything like that. She just really knew at a very young age, actually, that she was supposed to be a woman and she tells the whole story. She realized early on she was attracted to men for a long part of her life. She did live as a gay man. She was married for a very long time. She talks about that marriage. They were very open. They played a lot. They got into BDSM. She tells that whole story. Eventually, unfortunately, her partner passed. But before that happened, she had transitioned fully had all the surgery and everything. She talks about how her family felt when she was younger and came out to them as trans. She talked about how her family
Starting point is 00:03:51 felt when she fully transitioned as well as her husband and what happened when she started to go on hormones, which was super interesting. And then, She eventually was dating a couple. They were kind of Polly in their relationship. She had a full-fledged relationship with this other couple. And she still has that relationship. Even after she fully transitioned and after her husband passed, she is now in a Polly Thruple.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I don't think she's really Polly. We talk about that, but she's in a thruple with a couple. And the whole thing is like super interesting. Towards the end, we talk about bigger picture stuff, like how she feels about kids transitioning and the difference between how she felt as a guy
Starting point is 00:04:28 compared to how she felt as a woman. I mean, those are the super interesting questions I like to know. So we talk about that kind of stuff towards the end. But the whole beginning is all of her whole life story and her whole transition. And she didn't just fully transition physically, but she transitioned in every other way throughout her life. It's a super interesting story. So at the end, I did ask for like a before and after picture, like see her as when she was
Starting point is 00:04:52 the gay man compared to when she fully transitioned. And I think she's sending me in picture. so they should be over on my Patreon if you want to join. The link is in the description. But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Linda. Hi, Linda. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Hi, Kathy. I'm doing great. I've listened to you for years. I love that. And you did write to me and say, you are a transgender woman, right? And you were like, oh, I feel like a lot of your transgender people start out like a different way than I did.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And I want to come on and tell my story. Just explain what you were talking about. Like what is like what have you heard on my show and how is your story going to be different? Okay. Well, so most of the trans women that I've heard you speak and talk to and I realized that this yeah, this podcast is about fetishes and sexuality and people that are in alternative lifestyles, which I am. I am polyamorous, or at least in a polyamorous relationship. but most of the trans women that you talk to, it seems like they discover that they're trans and decide to transition after years of cross-dressing or scissification fetishes or have interest in
Starting point is 00:06:07 pantyhose, which I've worn once in my entire life. I can't stand them. And so for me, I wanted to talk about the fact that, you know, what it's like to be a trans woman in the BDSM community. because it does seem different than most people's experiences. There are things that are unique to navigate. And so, and my transition did not come from a place of cross-dressing. And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. No, that's why I'll talk to.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Yeah, no, that's why I'll talk to 100 cross-dressers, 100, guys who like panty-hose, as well as 100 people who are trans to get the different stories. So you didn't start cross-testing or anything. Like, first of all, let me get you a snapshot of where you're at. Now, are you fully trans? Are you like, oh, yes. I'm, I've, I've been transitioned for almost a decade. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And that includes being post-op. So, yeah, I've had everything, everything done. Oh, I can't wait to get that information because I don't know that I've, I've had that much information before, which I'm curious. I'm just a naturally very curious person. Okay, so how, but how old are you, Linda? by the way? I'm 49. Okay, 49.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Okay, great. So let's go all the way back. Like, when did you start first having the feeling that maybe you were born in the wrong body? I don't know if that's how you felt about it or that you knew that you were trans or something was different about you. So that started for me before when I was probably about six or seven. Oh, wow. And I mean, it's one of those. And when you talk about things as an adult when you're when you talk about that far in the past, I mean, it's always a little bit fuzzy.
Starting point is 00:07:51 But, I mean, I was the child that always played with the girls. I wanted to be with them. I was not rough and tumble. I did not get along with boys whatsoever. I did not realize that I was attracted to men until quite late and even probably past my high school years. I just, that attraction was not necessarily a thing with me. So I didn't feel a try, but did you know that you weren't attracted to women or
Starting point is 00:08:21 Were you attracted to women and not men? No, I think, so I think I was attracted to, I was attracted to men, but I wasn't attracted to, like, boys my age. Okay. I was, and so, and by the time I was like nine, I had found out about transsexuals, which was the term back then. Uh, and I kind of, I realized, okay, that's probably what I am. But we're talking like 40 years ago. What are you reading encyclopedias? Like where,
Starting point is 00:08:55 how do you even find out about this fucking term? Because I know I've been a curious person. So I love the internet now because I can find out everything I want. Right. But back in the day, I used to rifle through encyclopedias to get information because there was nowhere else to get it. Like where did you hear the term transsexual when you were nine 40 years ago? TV.
Starting point is 00:09:15 You had daytime TV. You had sitcoms. I mean, it usually wasn't. a favorable conversation. Yeah, I see like Sally, Jesse or something like that. Like it was controversial back then.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Uh-huh. Right. So it was something that if you, if you happened to catch it and it resonated with you, which it did with me. Yeah. It just became something that I then
Starting point is 00:09:39 became attuned to looking for. And as I got older, as I got into high school, which would have been the early 90s, I learned the skills to start looking at actual journal articles and more, actual more reference stuff. My parents actually took, I actually came out to my parents when I was 16 as transsexual. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They must have been so confused. Like, what did you say to them? I told them that I felt like I was a girl and I had always felt this way. And actually, because actually they met. with my school counselor because I actually came out there first because there was an incident that happened in school that just had me have a meltdown. And I, uh, and so, uh, that kind of started that and we went to, yeah, they took me to a therapist and the therapist after talking to me for a while. It's like, yeah, this is probably your child. And my, my parents, do you remember? And I don't
Starting point is 00:10:47 know how like your relationship with your parents after that but like did they ever tell you like oh we kind of always knew or something because you see things in your children very early on certain things are very obvious so i'm wondering if they noticed this in you as well no they they absolutely noticed right and and that's and that i think falls into a lot of a lot of what happens with uh i'll i'll say boys like me yeah uh is that Because feminine traits and boys are very, very discouraged. And fortunately, I mean, my parents did not push me towards sports or activities that I didn't want to do. That's good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:31 They just discouraged. I couldn't have dolls. I couldn't play. I couldn't have the toys that I really, really wanted. Yeah. I would constantly be told, you're standing wrong. You're giggling too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I learned that the way I carried my books was wrong. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And so just those type of things, send a message. Of course. You're like something's wrong with you and you this is because you're feeling like that's who you want to be.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And what they're telling you in other words is like that's not accepted. Right. And so when we went to the therapist, when they told my parents this, my parents' reaction was well, are you sure you're not just gay? Which I said, no, I'm not just gay because at that point. I wasn't attracted to the men that had been pointed out to me were gay men. Okay. You were attracted to straight men?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Oh, well, as far as I knew, yes. Okay. Well. Because at that time, early 90s, unfortunately, mostly what you're seeing is stereotypes. I get it, right. So you didn't like a feminine guys. You want like more masculine men? Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yeah. Uh-huh. But my parents were like, look, we're not going to do anything. We're not going to explore this. And so I went off to college. Well, I didn't go off. I lived at home, but went to college. I grew my hair just because I liked having the longer hair.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I had never had my hair long. and for a lot of that time, and I wasn't trying to pass as a woman, but if strangers were around, I'd say it was about 50-50, whether they would call me sir or ma'am. Oh, okay, because you started to already look effeminate without doing anything, really, except growing your hair long and the way you carried yourself? Yes, okay. Because I have very naturally wavy, curly, thick,
Starting point is 00:13:40 care. Right. Like girls would be jealous of. Oh, they always. They always were. Yeah. And so, like I said, I wasn't trying to pass, but that was happening. Yep. But that doesn't mean you happy, though, no? Because it was just kind of something that was. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. And so after I graduated from college, a little bit after when I was 22, I decided I would try dating as a gay man.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And I found online, and I mean, this is back in the wild west of online dating. Yeah. Found online a guy that I was interested in. He turned out to be my husband. We were together for 19 years. Oh, wow. Yeah. He was 57 when we met.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And before anyone gets judgmental, I was the one that pursued him at that age. How old were you? I was 22. That's fine. I don't know. I'm fine with age gaps. It is what it is.
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Starting point is 00:16:38 Oh, wow. Yeah. He was 57 when we met. And before anyone gets judgmental, I was the one that pursued him at that age. How old were you? I was 22. That's fine. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I'm fine with age gaps, but it is what it is. Yeah. No, I've always been attracted to. 17, okay? No. You're 22. He's 57. there's plenty of guys that are being in 22-year-olds, 25-year-old girls, and some of them get married.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Look, you got married. The lasted 17 years. That's obviously meant to be. And started seeing him, came out to my parents again at this time as gay. They had a much bigger issue with the age difference than the gay thing. I think they were a little bit relieved on that. And so we were together for about. 15, 16 years before I told him that I felt I needed to transition.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Oh, so you did, but you kept that from him the whole time? Yes. Wow. Because, yeah, well, because a lot of the feelings had gone away. Oh, okay. Well, you didn't say that. Yeah, because I started feeling more comfortable with myself. I was in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Yeah. And then, but then all of a sudden, it hit. How old were you when it hit? I was I was 39. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And my transition went incredibly fast. I came out to my husband and I mean to his credit his first question was he took me shopping that night to buy clothes.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So he was so cool with it. He was supportive. And so my social transition pretty well started from that day. A couple months later, I transitioned at work. I had started hormones. I eventually, yeah, a few months later, I made the appointment for my breast augmentation and vaginoplasty. Wow. So you were on it. yeah uh yeah i i knew the length of time that was required for therapy and all this and yeah and so uh i mean my my my husband even paid for my breast augmentation i mean that now that that's a really sweet gay man to pay for his wife to have breasts yeah totally considering we probably could care less about them right and but you know so during the time that we were together before I decided, before I transitioned, when we were just a gay couple, we would go to, yeah, we would go to gay events. We would go, yeah, we went to, we were part of a nudist group. We went to some local leather events. Okay. We had friends that hosted sex parties. So we were, yeah, we were very open with our sexuality. Right. Were you Polly with him or no?
Starting point is 00:19:56 we had an open relationship but we were not polyamorous okay cool and one of the things that had happened when we were at a leather event was I saw somebody getting flogged and my husband could tell that I really really enjoyed that and I was too nervous to go and asked to have that done and so he actually went up to the guy and said hey would you know would you be willing to be willing to to do that to them. And so I got my first vlogging. Okay. And I loved it.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And I've loved it ever since. My back is an incredibly sensitive area to me, which was something I didn't really realize that the sensations were sexual to the touching of my back. Right. But that was not something that my husband really enjoyed doing. He would do it because I would do it because of. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't something he got enjoyment from. That was my first kind of foray into BDSM.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But the gay BDSM leather community here, at least, seems to be very much focused on leather and the master slave aspect of things. And that really wasn't me. Okay. So I decided, okay, I'm going to look more at the broader area of the community. of the community. And I found it very difficult to kind of fit in as a submissive gay man. Because I didn't really necessarily want to play with women.
Starting point is 00:21:41 So I didn't really stay around very much. I checked it out and then kind of left. Okay. You're still married to this guy, right? Right. Right. Oh, no, no, we stayed married. My husband passed away.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Oh, okay. So that's why you were just married for 17 years. Right. Okay. So then fast forward, I transitioned and I decide I'm going to start venturing back out into the wider BDSM community because one of the things my husband and I realized is sexually we were not going to be particularly compatible anymore. Oh, really? Well, yeah, because of what you were. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh-huh, come on. And so even, even though I might have still had the parts, for me at least, the hormones stopped the functioning very quickly. Oh, really? Yes. Now, it doesn't do that for everybody that quickly, but for me, yes, I found maintaining an erection to be very difficult. Wow, right, because they're lowering testosterone and increasing, like, estrogen for you. Is that what's happening? And that's the problem?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Correct. Yeah. Right. Right. They block the testosterone and they introduce estrogen. Yeah. So there you go. Now you're like a not horny woman like the rest of us now.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Right. There lies the problem with men and women. Right. And so, yeah, we start kind of talking about, okay, well, what are we going to do? Well, we'd already had an open relationships. So we kind of were like, okay, well, we'll just maintain having an open relationship. And you can go off and continue going to these parties and stuff that we used to go to, and I'll find another avenue.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And so I started exploring the BDSM Kink community, went to a couple different events, kind of stayed fairly to the sidelines, because, again, there are trans women at these events, but there aren't many of us. And from what I was seeing, most of those trans women, if they played, if they were connected to somebody, they were usually connected to a woman that was acting as their dom. Okay. It was not a dynamic that I wanted.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I don't necessarily mind having a woman do some activities to me. They're very skilled. I mean, some of the best flogging I've ever had was from a woman. Yeah. But, you know, it is still sex and there's still an element of attraction that kind of heightens, heightens the appeal. Uh-huh. And so, yeah, I was going fairly every once in a while, maybe once a month or once every other month, I'd go to an event. And finally, in, I think January, which would have been about six, seven months.
Starting point is 00:24:48 into my transition. I have to back up a little bit. So my therapist actually recommended, because we had talked about the sex aspect. Yeah. And she actually recommended trying strap-ons. Oh, interesting. Because for gay sex, I had been the top,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and of course that wasn't working. Yeah. And so she had recommended strap-ons. And so I went and I bought. And I tried it with my... husband, but he was not, he didn't really like it. The weird thing for me was I put it on and I was like immediately, I want to fuck something. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Interesting. Like even, I've heard that from women who strap it on. Like they feel a sense of power or something comes over them that they didn't realize was going to happen. Is that what happened to you? Kind of. And it was like, wow, this is really weird because at that point I had already had an appointment and to get rid of mine.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And I was like, wait a second. Why all of a sudden want to use this? That's interesting. But so I, and I had a profile on a BDSM fetish social site. And I had posted pictures of me with the strap on. But then I went to an event in January of that year. And it was one of the first. times that I think I actually played at the event. I got fire cupped. I love being fire cupped.
Starting point is 00:26:23 What is that? So that's when, so I mean, they can do it on pretty much any part of your body, but usually most people do it to their back. And you take and you basically take and you light a, it's usually a little cotton ball. You, you light a little cotton ball and then you put a glass cup on top of it so that what sucks all the oxygen up and so it also then sucks the yeah the skin that's underneath the cup oh okay yeah yeah yeah i know about that yeah yeah and so yeah i was laying there getting fire cupped and meanwhile i was watching these two couples on the bed uh having sex i was watching them and the one guy i thought was so so cute i really really liked him uh but i don't even really remember talking talking to him during that night. The other guy, he came up and talked to me a little bit and even came around and squeezed my
Starting point is 00:27:26 breasts, which I thought was really nice because I didn't really have much in the way of breasts at that point. But, you know, a lot of these parties and stuff, everyone just kind of goes around and they exchange their little online names. And so then later on, you get a little friend request of, oh, this is, well, like a week or so later, I got a message from the guy that I thought was so cute. Oh, wow. So I really like that strap on.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Would you like to use it on me sometime? Uh-huh. And I was like, yes, please, my whole means, I would love to. So we got together and we started doing that and we did that a few times, I think. And his wife was fully aware. My husband was fully aware that this was going on. And after a few times of that, His wife suggested that we actually become polyamorous.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Oh, wow. And to. What about your husbands? We talked about it. And so like one of the, one of the stipulations we had always had in our relationship was always practicing safe sex with other people. Okay. And also that, you know, right, that emotions weren't really going to be a part of. of it. Right, but this is a whole different thing. Right. And so my husband and I talked about it and
Starting point is 00:28:53 talked about the fact that, look, we were, yeah, we were already pretty well to a point where we weren't having sex. So he, he agreed to it. Okay. And, and, and, but, you know, it was also kind of discussed that if we were going to do this, that it was not going to just be sex. That, you know, it would, it would involve going on dates. It would involve the full. And it would, it involved the four of us getting together socially. And so we did that as much as possible for a little while. And it was really nice. My husband and my boyfriend's wife got along very well.
Starting point is 00:29:33 They all have very fond memories of my husband. But then so I went in, I went a few months later and had my surgery. I went out of the country. and I was gone for a while. And, of course, then had to heal. And so I did get to lose my second virginity to my boyfriend. But even with my boyfriend, that, yeah, that was kind of an issue of concern. Because most men that like trans women, like the fact that they have a penis.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Totally, yeah, that's a thing. That's kind of the attraction. Yep. And we were like, no, that's going along. way, that's not going to be a part of our relationship. But, no, and my husband and I did try once after I had
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Starting point is 00:32:59 That went very well. Everything down there functions. I can have orgasms. They're very, very nice. And I can have multiple orgasms. I'm very happy about that. Oh, I'm jealous. Let me ask you, are you having inside orgasms or outside orgasms?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Like, do you have a clit that gets stimulated or is it all inside? Like, where are all the nerves? They're all clitoral orgasms. Oh, interesting. So they give you like, it's like very wired like a woman. Yeah. And a lot of that is due to the estrogen as well. But my husband unfortunately got sick a few months after I had my surgery. Oh, you're kidding. That's when it happened. Yeah. He got sick and he got sick. passed away. And so, yeah, so there was about a, there was about a nine-month period where because of his illness, my boyfriend and I were not seeing each other. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I just want to ask you a quick question. I know that your husband was okay with you transitioning your boyfriend, but like, what about, like, your family? I just want to check in on what's going on there. We haven't talked about your family since you were really young. Like, did you continue being close with them? Did you keep them posted? How did they feel when you were trans, when you told them you were like transitioning fully?
Starting point is 00:34:18 My mother, my mother said she was supportive. My dad, my dad, kind of the same thing. I think he definitely didn't want to know as much about what was going on. I did make, because they're divorced and I don't live close to either of them. And I did, I went to go see them before I had my son. surgery. My dad, I think, held a lot of guilt in that, because, I mean, he did actually talk to me about the fact that he, you had asked about what do they see when you're growing up in that. And he did bring that up that, and he felt like he maybe hadn't pushed me enough to be more
Starting point is 00:35:00 masculine or, yeah. Oh, God, he thinks if he pushed you more. That would have been so much worse. Yeah, does he actually think that if he pushed you more, none of this would have happened? You probably would have done it sooner. That's all what have happened. But no, and I mean, my, my mother, when I went to go see her before my surgery, she actually asked me, she's like, well, what's going to be the difference between what she has
Starting point is 00:35:24 versus what I was going to have? And as far as a vagina. And I told her, I said, well, the main difference is my vagina has a, has a wall at the end. It stops about six inches in. And so I have to be conscious and aware of the size of the man that I'm with and the positions that we use. And my mother's response to me was literally, they come bigger than six inches. And all I can think is, well, now I know something about my father that I never wanted to know. Yeah, that's probably why your father didn't want to know anything either.
Starting point is 00:36:06 You know what I'm saying? But, you know, no, we, we, we stayed as, I think, as close as we had been through my adult life. Right. So they were supportive, is what I'm saying. I mean, they didn't like. Relatively, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Okay. So let's get back to where you were at in your story. So your guy eventually, like, passes, right? I mean, you're not like you're full. And then your, did you stay with that couple? I, I am still with that couple. Oh, wow. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:38 And before my husband passed, my boyfriend came over. I wanted the two of them to have a conversation without me present. I don't even know what they talked about. What was the conversation for, though? Basically for my future and making sure that my boyfriend was willing to take care of me and still... Why didn't you want to be involved in that conversation? Could I ask?
Starting point is 00:37:12 I felt I didn't really need to have a place in that conversation. But it was about you. This is like all about you. I don't get it. It was, but I wanted it to be a connection,
Starting point is 00:37:26 a connecting point between them. I kind of wanted it to be... Like him passing you off to him. Right. That for my, for my husband to know, she'll be taken care of. Don't worry. I'm here. Right. Kind of like when the guy goes and asks the father for the bride of the like,
Starting point is 00:37:46 could I have your way. Right. Like a little bit like a permission. Like it's more about him asking him or telling him and about you. Yeah, I get it now. Sorry. I had to just clear that up. I was interesting to me. But yeah, I understand totally what you're saying. But my, my boyfriend came over the night before. my husband ended up passing away. Oh, wow. He had messaged me. He said, yeah, would you like me to bring dinner? Uh-huh. And so he brought dinner for him and I, and we sat, my, my husband was already on hospice and out of it at that point.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And we just sat and I was able to cry. I was able to feel a bit of release. And my husband passed the next morning. Wow. Can I ask when he passed? Like did he get cancer? Is that what happened to him? Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah. It was cancer. It went very quickly. Yeah, obviously, because it was only nine months, right? You said from the time you found out. Right. Yeah. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's so sad. And I do believe that my husband was aware that all that went on and that helped him move on. Right. Mm-hmm. And so after my husband passed, things changed. a bit with the relationship with my boyfriend because I no longer had somebody that I was taking care of. Yeah. And I needed a little bit more emotional support at that time.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And so eventually for the first time at Thanksgiving, which would have been a couple months after my husband passing, I was invited over to have Thanksgiving with my husband and his wife and their family, their adult. their adult children and grandchildren. I was not introduced as a partner, and that was fine. But, you know, I became more a part of their family. And it's been that way ever since. But no one knows that you guys are like a threepaw. No one officially knows as far as I'm aware.
Starting point is 00:39:57 But you feel like maybe it's obvious? Probably. I'm over there quite a bit. Yeah. And I don't particularly hide the, the fact that I am in a submissive relationship with my, with my boyfriend. I do run errands for them. I, I do stuff when I'm there at the house. I do, I do their laundry when I'm there. I have friends that laugh at me that I go and do somebody else's laundry every week and I
Starting point is 00:40:28 actually am happy about doing it. A lot of women are like that. They do like to take care of They're nurturers. Right. And, yeah, and, you know, it, it, the, the, the sexual relationship is just between my boyfriend and me. And I don't have any type of sexual relationship with his wife. I am very close to his wife. I enjoy our friendship. It, yeah, I, she's aware that we, you know, have said, we go out.
Starting point is 00:40:57 My birthday was recently. She, I was over there and she's like, go over there and give him a blowjob. I'm like, okay, great. Thanks. Wow. And it is, at least in my mind, a version of what they call kitchen table polyamory in that even though we don't live together, they are a part of my life. I am part of some decisions.
Starting point is 00:41:25 They're definitely part of decisions that I make. we my boyfriend and I try and get out to things every as much as we can COVID of course stopped a lot of things for a while I enjoy going to events and him being able to flog me and I enjoy having sex with him in front of other people can I ask a quick question though like as far as like the timeline's concerned how long has it been that you have had no primary and you're just a thruple with this couple six years oh wow so in the six years you had no desire to go get another primary partner yourself he is my primary partner oh okay so you consider and do they have that kind of relationship where she's not his primary like you're both primary because listen i've talked a lot of uh polyamorous couple sometimes a couple decides to be polyamorous but their partner at home is their primary and then
Starting point is 00:42:24 everyone comes second or whatever some people like everyone's their prime everyone's equal, like, how is it set up between him and his wife? No, she, she is his primary. I know I'm not his primary person, and that's fine. Right, but he's yours and you're happy. He gives you enough of what you need is what you're saying. So he's your primary. You have no desire or need, right, to have anybody else.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Correct. I, yeah, no, they, they are my family. Yeah. It's not traditional in any sense of the word. but it is the relationship that I want. And it is the relationship that makes me happy. Yeah. I know that my feelings for my boyfriend are so strong that I don't think I could,
Starting point is 00:43:13 I don't think I could be in a relationship with somebody else. Right. So maybe you're not really Polly, but they are. Right. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, and it just. You don't sound.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Even with my husband. Yeah. And he did finally, he did finally say something to me that he felt like I had moved on even before he had gotten sick. And so I made a very big effort to pull back and make sure that I was more present with my husband and making sure that his needs were also being met. you do because you do get into new relationship energy and yeah this is the problem of Polly it could really like you know it could because I don't think a lot of like I think to do Polly
Starting point is 00:44:08 like maybe like the guy is in his relationship where he's got his primary wife and then you're like getting a lot too and keeping both those kinds of people happy and equal in some way is hard to do and most people don't do it well I've heard a lot of like I feel like with you and you're a husband it was like causing some problems because you were like getting fully attached someplace else and maybe you're more wired to be more fixated on one person. It's hard, I think, to do the opposite of that. I get how you could be. And this is why it's scary to me, polyamory, that people could say that it's all great on paper. But when they actually do it, I could see how you could get
Starting point is 00:44:45 totally taken with one person if you start to have feelings for them and then lose the, not lose the feelings, but lose the connection with the other person. It's hard to keep those two connections going at the same time. Oh, it is. And I mean, it's, and it's very difficult and I think it's funny. A lot of people, like, if I talk to them about the fact that my relationship and mentioned that, yeah, my, my boyfriend has a wife, he has a girlfriend. They're like, oh, he's very, very lucky. And it's like, no, he's, he's very good in that, it takes a special kind of person. 100%. Yeah. He's balanced that. 100%. Yeah. And especially when you're talking, it's not just sex. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And he obviously, and we got to give him credit. He obviously, and I have had Polly people on my show who are able to do it successfully, right? He's obviously sick, a very, like he obviously knows is truly Polly, right, and is doing it successfully. A lot of people, I think, try it, believe that they can do it and then do it and then do it. And it just doesn't work, you know, but he obviously. is a special person that can do it and does it right because his wife has stayed with him, you stayed with him for six years. It sounds like he has other people in his life, like, and everyone's happy. And so he's obviously, uh, Polly, true, Polly. Yeah, a lot, I think a lot of people when they
Starting point is 00:46:12 hear us about men, especially that have multiple women, their immediate, their immediate instinct is, oh, he must be really great in bed. And it's like, I mean, he is, but the more importantly is he's really great at making the women in his life feel important. Yeah, exactly. And feel like they're number one on some level. I mean, enough for you to not have any desire or need to go get somebody else, right? Like you are completely fulfilled by him, as is his wife, obviously, right? As is maybe if he has other people in his life, he knows how to do that.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And I think that's the difficulty for most people. And it was even for you, right? Like you were hard because your husband noticed it. So that makes sense that with him that you're not like going out and seeking other people either. Let me ask you a couple quick questions because we're going to wrap it up now. But like you mentioned, oh, my friends laugh sometimes and blah, blah, blah. Like when you fully transitioned and everything, I know that your family was as supportive as they could be with it. How were your friends?
Starting point is 00:47:18 The friends, as far as being friends were supportive, what I lost. though, was I lost being a part of the gay community, which was most of my husbands and my friend's friend group. Wow. That's kind of, that's hard. Because the events and stuff that we were going to, even though, like, even some just plain social things, like we had friends that would host birthday parties every year, we'd go to their birthday, yeah, we'd go to their birthday party. And aside from one of their mothers, I'd be the only woman there. Of course, I get it. I mean, it's a very different thing.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Unfortunately, that is going to be a consequence because now you're a woman. You're not a gay man. Right. Yeah. And then because I wasn't going to those events, I wasn't seeing them as often. When I would, right. And then when I would go, I would have no idea what any of them were talking about. And so my social circle is very much just.
Starting point is 00:48:23 just regular, mostly heterosexual, straight married people, people I worked with. Right. Those friends stayed. Those friends stayed. But that other community left. My last question would be, because you had male hormones going through you at one time most of your life and then you switched over. Now you're fully female.
Starting point is 00:48:45 What is the difference? To me, it's always fascinating because you have been both, right? Like you, and I think a lot of times men will be like, women are so crazy. women are like men are so such fucking pigs, but they've never been a man or a woman. They don't understand. Like, it's just a, these hormones that we have in us do dictate the, the reason why women talk more and they're more emotional. And we talk in circles compared to why men are more like just solve a fucking problem and
Starting point is 00:49:08 they're horny all the time. Like, what is the difference from you being on both sides, like that you feel like you are different as a woman than you were when you were a man? Well, you hit the nail on the head with a lot of your comments just more. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's all the stereotypical stuff, right? Right. I mean, testosterone really does amp up your sex drive. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Not having it. I mean, it's not that I am not horny. I don't, I still get horny. I still have attraction. Yeah. But there needs to be a spark there otherwise. There has now that I have, I have to, like, just sitting next to you, holding your hand might jump strong. started as opposed to Is that crazy? Yeah. That you know how a woman feel. Like that's how women are. Like that real and that's because we, not
Starting point is 00:50:02 because we're repressed or not horny or like bitches and we're manipulating guys. We don't want to give them sexes because that's how we're fucking wired because of our hormones. And the emotion thing is very true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I would sit I would sit especially when I first got on And I'd sit in that. And I mean, I've always been, I would say more, more emotional than your typical male to begin with. But I would sit and I'd be watching a commercial and all of a sudden I'd break into tears. Or I remember the first time I was somewhere and there was a woman in front of me in line that had a baby on her shoulder. And I said, oh, baby. and I went, wait a second, where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Because I've never wanted kids. I've been like, I don't want kids. I don't like babies. Now, children themselves are fine. But I am not a baby person. Yeah. And I was like, wait a second. Where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Why did I all of a sudden do that? Isn't that crazy? It's like in your fucking fit. It's like really in all those hormones and stuff. It really does. No, it is. It is. So interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Hormones are a huge thing. And people don't realize exactly how much that does play a role in our behavior. Yeah, I think if both people understood that more, there was this famous bookmanor for Mars, Women for Venus, that just explained everything from. And it was very true, and I think it was really helpful. But I think a lot of the times, the biggest problems people have in relationships is they just don't fucking understand that the other person is like wire completely different. you have the knowledge because you have been both. And that's what's always so interesting to me about it when someone has been both sides. Let me ask you this. Being a woman and being more emotional and having to have that connection and it being not so easy to get turned on and everything. Like do you have a preference? Like do sometimes you wish like you had that testosterone raging in you and you wouldn't be so emotional? Or do you enjoy being a woman more and it feels more natural to you because this is who you always felt like you were supposed to be?
Starting point is 00:52:19 I think this feels more right. Yeah. One of the things I'll say, and I think this goes to the point you were trying to make or making, what it is. So especially after I had my surgery, sex to me is a very different thing than it ever was before as a man. Yeah. And part of that is, at least to me, and I don't know, I can only judge for myself. Yeah. But to me, it is so much more of an intimate thing and a act of trust to let somebody else into my body.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yes. And there is a difference between two men having sex. Because two men having sex are essentially equals. Right. In physically they're equals. emotionally there probably equals yeah there's a sameness there yeah there's a there's even a level of
Starting point is 00:53:25 safety there to some extent which I don't I don't necessarily have now I have it with I have it with my partner and but the idea of oh I would just go and have sex with some random guy no absolutely
Starting point is 00:53:46 not. Yeah. Whereas probably when you were a guy, you would have. Yeah. Oh, I did. Yeah. And again, I don't really miss it. I don't miss doing that.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Right, because you just are. Like, this is who you are now. So it's not even like you could even imagine because it is so ruled by your hormone. So this is just you. I have another quick question that I just need to have answered because, you know, there's such this big thing about this. talk about transitioning at a young age and them changing the rules and everything. How do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:54:25 I absolutely am against children transitioning. Yeah. I've, and I know I have friends that don't like that I hold that view. And this is coming from a trans woman, which I think is really important. So here, here's my view of it. And I mean, this is coming from somebody who, like I said, I was originally diagnosed at 16. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 If my parents had had a different view, I may have never lived the life that I had. Exactly. And one, if I had never lived the life I had, I never would have met my husband and I would have lost out on a very important part of my life. Right. But more importantly, one, I don't feel like any child can fully understand how this impacts. every single part of your life. Yeah, that's important. It impacts everything.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And you can't, especially the sex part, especially the relationship part, how does a child at 11 or 12 even fathom what they're possibly giving up? Because they haven't even experienced it at all. Right. And not only, I think what your point you're making too, is, which I think is like, I've never even thought of it this way, is like, how are they also going to deal with all the things that come with that transition, right? Like, just psychologically, right? Like, it's just a lot to take in and to go through and, right? And so, like, how as a child can you deal with it?
Starting point is 00:56:03 I always typically think my reasoning for me thinking that it shouldn't happen is because I'm always, like, even in your 20s, you're a fucking amoeba. Like, you don't know who you are until you're like 30. And I just think that when you're really young, you just don't really have a clue and you have to wait till you're super clear on it so there's no regrets whatever but i think what you're saying is even makes even more sense like it's such a it it wasn't an it's not an easy thing to transition right like i mean in like as an adult you were fully capable of dealing with everything that came with it but as a child like how could a child deal with that right is that what you're saying right yeah exactly and and one of the things i will always say because and and i'll be the first thing
Starting point is 00:56:46 I know my views are very different from most trans people on this. Yeah. And, yes, when I go through my normal, typical day, I believe most people assume I'm just a woman. Yeah. I don't get, I don't get called sir or he. Yeah. But the reality is, am I seen as a woman?
Starting point is 00:57:12 Maybe. Am I seen as a trans woman? maybe am I seen as a man trying to look like a woman maybe I can't say what other people see me as I can make some assumptions the important thing is I'm comfortable with myself in the reality that I am a biological male that has made changes to my body and the way I present myself socially to make myself feel more comfortable. Right. And I'm okay with whatever that means.
Starting point is 00:57:52 If that means I'm a trans woman, fine. That's okay with me. I don't go around dictating that people call me a certain thing. Yeah, I got it. Other than my name. But I think it's because you're older. I always say like labels and these pronouns. I think like when you're really young, the younger people,
Starting point is 00:58:13 like it is very helpful because of like what I said before like you kind of are like an amoeba in your 20s and I think your 20s as much as they're like the funest times of your life they're kind of difficult in that you're really trying to figure out everything about like who you are and I think that sometimes it is really nice that those people have those labels because they could feel like they belong in certain places and I think eventually when you get to fully figure out who the fuck you are you don't need them anymore but I do think there is a place and I do get why some people do care about that kind of stuff and it is very important because they're trying to define who they are. And I think it's a lot harder to do that when you're younger. I mean, you had transition. You were like fully adult. You know
Starting point is 00:58:53 what I'm saying? And so I could see why you feel that way. It makes sense. Well, and to be honest, if a label was all we were talking about, that would be fine. Right. Because labels are easy to change. Labels are very easy to change. Right. And this is going back to the transition, just actually transitioning. This is like what you're going to say is about transitioning. This isn't just about labels. Yeah, of course. Right. There are aspects that there are aspects of what I've done that can't be reversed. There are things that if I decided I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Yeah, you can't. Yeah. No, I know it's terrible. I can't. Let me, let me ask you this. Can you send me, like, and I don't know, like, can you send me a pick of you transitioned and a pick of you before? I think that would be super interesting, no? I mean, is that rude of me to ask? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:59:55 No, no, I can, I can send you. How do you feel about your, like, when you, like, let me ask you this. And maybe this is maybe more of a question than send it to me my curiosity. Like, for you, do you ever look at those pictures? Like, do you feel like you're a better looking woman than a man? or vice versa, I don't know. So having been in the gay community before I transitioned, yeah, I've had, I've had men come up to me that knew me before.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah. And I've had some of them come up and say, you were the, you were the cutest little bear cub before. Yeah. And I probably was. And the way I look at it in, I mean, I'm not going to. I'm trying not to oversell myself or sell myself short.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I think if I were in a room full of 100 middle-aged women, I probably would blend in just fine. Right. Okay. Am I attractive? No, probably not. Am I unattractive to the point where I stand out? No, probably not. So you're I'm red. You're like, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's what,
Starting point is 01:01:19 that's one of the funny things that my boyfriend's wife actually said to me not too long ago is, we were watching a show and there was a trans woman on there. And she's like, that's what when you, you know, when you said you were transitioning, that's what I thought you were kind of going for or would want. And because this was somebody who had obviously had a lot of plastic surgery done, looked very sexualized, very, yeah. Hot. Looks super hot. Sexy hot. Right. Wanted to be that kind of woman. Kind of like a porn star. Yeah, I got it. Right. And she's like, but that's not. She's like, you did this to be comfortable with yourself. And I'm right. Yes, that's exactly it. Yeah. But yeah, I can, I'll send you, I'll send you, I'll send you a pick.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I mean, listen, I don't need to, if you don't want to, I could just post your pick of you now. You know what I mean? That's totally fine. It's really up to you. I don't like to be disrespectful and I don't even know if it is for me to ask. No, no, I keep a, I do have a, a pre-transition picture that I still keep, mainly says a lot of times when I'm just talking to people online, they won't believe that I'm actually, trans. Oh, interesting. So you said both. Okay, so send me both. So yeah. Yeah, I can do that. Okay. You're the best. Thank you. What did we call you, Linda? Thank you Linda. We're calling in. I could keep asking these more general questions a million times because it's super
Starting point is 01:02:50 interesting to me all this other stuff, but I like to get someone's life story, which you did a great job of telling that all the time. Thank you so much for calling it and sharing it. I can't believe you said you listened to my show for years and it took you all this time. I listened to you back when you had a co-host. Oh my God. Why the fuck it didn't take you so long to call? That means you listen to me as a guy, like as a gay man. Probably, yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Oh, my God. You've transitioned with me. I love it. This is so interesting, but it took you so long to call in. But I love that you did. Thank you so much for calling in. Like I said, I could ask you a billion more questions. But I think we got a great episode here.
Starting point is 01:03:29 And it'll probably be up next Friday. Oh, okay. All right? And I'll give you free access to my, Patreon so you can see any comments and stuff and then I'll also give you free access to my Discord you could get in there for free forever okay okay thanks a lot all right thanks so much yeah thanks Linda thanks so much for calling in bye bye okay I just want to tell you before you go that my book it's called strictly anonymous confession secret sex lives of total strangers is now available
Starting point is 01:03:57 not only in paperback and ebook but you can pre-order the audio book it's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't, really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're
Starting point is 01:04:47 really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available. coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay, there's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can
Starting point is 01:05:32 win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

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