Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1201 - Antoine and his Wife are Swingers who Have Done it All Including Being Poly

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

Antoine and his wife are swingers who have done it all including being poly and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when him and his wife decided to start swinging, the first unicorn they hooked up with and what they tried after that, the first couple they hooked up with and what they did with them, their first swinger party they attended and what went down, why they preferred swinger bars to pick people up as opposed to apps, the interracial couple they met and the drama that ensued afterwards, their first hotel party they attended and exactly what went down, how and why his wife prefers black guys, why they have never been to a swingers club, how and why he became a bull for couples and what he loves about it, how and when they started playing solo and what he enjoys about it and why his wife wasn’t into it at firs, the first guy his wife wound up playing solo with and what went down, how he felt at first when she started playing solo, their six year poly relationship they were in with a woman and why being poly is no longer on the table plus a whole lot more. **To see pics ANTOINE of of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://liferx.md⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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nine years. He's been in the lifestyle with his wife. They have done everything. They started out really early on just like, you know, hooking up with other people. No rules, no nothing. They started out with women, then men, then couples, then parties, then hotel takeovers. And now they play solo. They had a poly relationship. He throws on me at the end for like six years. They've, like I said, tried everything that the lifestyle has to offer. And he talks all about it. He's actually a bull too. That's what he told me too. He's, you know, once they started playing solo, he became a bull to some people. they do have people they play with separate as well. I'm hoping his wife calls in because I want more details,

okay, than he gave on this episode. But it's a super interesting story. He's a cool guy. So I'm going to be right back on with Antoine. Hey, Antoine, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I am great. Thanks so much for having me.

I don't think I've ever had a fake name Antoine on my show. I like the name, actually. I think Antoine Mason is a hot name to use. So let's get to your story, Antoine. you are a married guy and you are a swinger. You obviously do some content with other people. So you're kind of, you know, you've been there, done that, right? I've been doing this for a while.

You're no newbie, that's for sure. So what I like to do nowadays is like get a snapshot of where you're at now and then we'll go all the way back to the beginning. How long you guys have been married and then how long have you guys been swinging together? Okay. So we've been swinging. We've been together 11, swinging 10 and married 9. Wow.

So that's where we are in the scheme of things. That's pretty fast. Yeah, yeah. So we primarily play separate at this point. Sometimes that's in close proximity to each other at parties. And sometimes it's traveling to see somebody else that we've made connections with. And that is a newer thing for my wife, but not such a new thing for me. Okay, so we'll work ourselves up to that because a lot of people don't start there, right?

It's interesting that you guys wound up there, but it has been a nine-year journey. So let's go all the way back. Like you and your wife, did you guys do anything like this before you met each other? Or was this something that you both started when you got together? We started this together. Neither of us had experience doing this. This was definitely the stuff from the world of porn, right? It's in porn, so it's make-believe.

No one's going to show up with a pizza box or anything like that, right? So it was strictly in the realm of fantasy, was not on our radar at all. And we watch a TV show where we kind of saw something happen naturally. And we cared about these characters in the show, started having conversations about, what if we tried something like that? And my wife said, you know what? I don't know, but let's try. Why not?

And so that's how we got started. We started watching a TV show. And then ended up never looking back. Oh, my goodness. So what was your first move, though, into the lifestyle? Did you get on an app? Did you go online and start looking for like a swinger club close by? Like what was the first thing you did when you realized you wanted to fulfill this fantasy and go there?

Yeah. Well, we started off technically on a regular dating site. I think it was OKCupid back in the day and ended up meeting a young lady who actually just ended up texting me like right before I came on this show. And I said, I'm doing this show called Strictly anonymous. So she'll be listening to the episode at some point. So we're still friends with her. But reached out to her. We knew she had some experience, and she ended up being our first threesome experience.

She came over to our apartment, and the three of us played, and it was crazy fun. It was nothing we had ever thought we would find ourselves in the middle of. From there, of course, we ended up asking the question, well, are there any apps or websites that are dedicated to looking for this kind of thing? And so we came across an app called 3-ender back in the day. And we found this guy on there, and we set up a date with him. But he said, hey, I'm going to be honest with you. I already have this date set up with this other couple. If they flake on me, then I'll come through for you guys.

And we said, okay, we didn't know anything. And he didn't end up flaking. That couple didn't flake on him. So we never met him. But he did say, by the way, this isn't the best site that I use. I use another website, and he told us about that website. And so we ended up getting on there, and we've been on there for a long time. And we've created hot dates and gone to events and traveled with people and all the things just because we got on a website and we're able to find lots of different people that way.

Yeah, I mean, that's what everyone does nowadays. But when you're going into like, it just sounds like really quick, you saw a woman, you saw a man, you were having three, some of these people. Like, what was on the table and what wasn't on the table with you guys? I mean, you had to have some sort of discussion beforehand. Like, was it okay for you to fuck that? Unicorn, were you, when you went to meet that guy on the app that you didn't meet, but like, was it on the table that you wanted to now see her? Fuck him. Like, were you guys like fully doing whatever with these people when you were with them right from the get-of?

You know what? Obviously, it does create the need for communication when you're doing this kind of thing, but a lot of it was just, let's just jump in with both feet. We threw a lot of caution to the wind, not health-wise, but just, hey, let's see what we can find. Let's see who we can fine and we just ended up doing what felt natural to us and most of it at the beginning again you don't know what you don't know ended up being single guys because single guys no but that first time i want specifics that first time i don't care what it's supposed to do and what's the real etiquette it's like what you did i like to the reason why i like to talk to a million swingers is because every single person has a different story some people go in with a lot of rules and boundaries and some people are and then

those fly out the window some women are like i don't want to see you fuck another woman but you could like go down on her or you're just going to watch her. You know, it's like that kind of stuff. Like, did you watch, did you fuck that first unicorn and when you met that guy that you didn't meet were you going to watch your wife fuck him? Like, was that on the table? Like, yeah, like, let's just do we, you know, there's no rules whatsoever. They weren't.

Yeah. Okay. And I've talked to couples like that. I like that story. You know what I mean? Because it's not like it, like you said, you know, which is great if you're teaching a class, but I just want your stories. like, you know, it's typically you should be talking about this, but you guys didn't.

I mean, you didn't talk about it. I mean, you didn't create any kind of rules. You just like went in and like there was no. And when you came out of that first experience, like her saying you fuck that other woman or whatever, like was she down? Did she have any kind of weird feelings about it or was it just totally like you were both into it? We were both into it.

Yeah. We were both into it. We're willing to, you know, see, you know, see how things go basically and it just ended up working out. But I also don't think there was a need. for rules other than, hey, we're condoms. We were together. It's like, hey, I'm calling a guy over. We're calling a guy

over. He comes over. We figure out whether we like him or not. If we do like him, we end up going to our apartment and playing with them. I'm there, right? And we're all just kind of enjoying it. I know my wife. And so she's just trying to figure out this other guy. He's trying to figure out her. We're just all basically having a good

time. There wasn't necessarily, hey, here's what's on the table. Here's what's off the table. You can't do this. You can't do that. Well, some people have something called jealousy. And it does exist. And we're all human beings. And it's okay if some people don't want to see. Listen,

there are plenty of couples I talk to where the girl is hot wiping, but she would never be into seeing her guy with somebody else. Like, you know, and so that's just the thing. You and your girl were like, you just didn't have that gene. Like, neither one of you were jealous. And that's why there were no rules.

I mean, you weren't together a long time. I mean, you're talking like one year into it. So it's not like you're together to 30 years. So you know you're like got each other and you're good. And so there's no sort of, you know, but you were just both very non-possessive, very non-jalous, and that's why it worked for you. But for a lot of people, like it might not, they might not know how they're going to feel seeing their partner fuck someone else. That's not like a normal thing. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Yeah. You were absolutely right. Yeah. But you, so she, and so she saw you, she was into it. Now you start to go out onto all these apps and you start meeting all these people. Like, do you, like, what was that first experience like when you had a guy?

and saw your girl with a guy? Like, you know, was that like super hot to you? Did you realize you have that kink that you like to watch her do that? It was very hot for me. Initially on, it was very, very hot for me to watch that. My wife's my favorite porn star, right? I've heard a lot of guys say that over the years. So it was really hot to see her play with another person.

It was almost like an out-of-body experience. Like you're watching it. Like, we do the same thing. The mechanics of sex don't change, right? There's only so many positions you can do. Some people do it well. some people don't. But in a way, it's kind of an out-of-body experience. I'm watching another guy, play with my wife. Sometimes I'm involved. Sometimes I'm not. But it was almost like watching myself

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Join Bluechew's mission to upgrade humanity one thrust at a time. Head to bluechew.com for details and safety info. And a big thanks to Bluechu for sponsoring the podcast. play with my wife. Sometimes I'm involved. Sometimes I'm not. But it was almost like watching myself with her, which you can't do while you're actually playing with the other person. So seeing someone play with my wife brought me a lot, a lot of joy early on. It was really, it was a lot of fun. Right. Okay. So you start bringing guys in. Now you're doing like the threysms and you're involved like with the threesomes, right? It's not like you're just sitting there watching, correct? It's more like a threesome where everyone's doing something together. When she's with the guy,

I mean, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, if, if I'm watching, it's because I'm taking a break or I go get water. Right. You just came and you're taking five minutes, right? Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, absolutely always involved. It was, yeah, it was, yeah, I was involved.

Okay, so then did you start going to club? I know eventually you guys start throwing your own parties too and stuff. Like, when did you start, you know, you're meeting singles on apps? Like, did you eventually start meeting couples after that? Yeah. We started meeting couples and like a lot of. stories you've probably heard of, you know, early on. Sometimes you get flaked on.

Sometimes you'd be catfished, all that different stuff. But we met, uh, we met some couples. And we lived pretty close to another country, so we were able to travel to another country. And that was one of the first couples we met was in another country, right? And it was interesting because we went and we sat in their hot tub and that was sexy. And he had, he had this tattoo that was very, very unique. And so that was interesting.

And then we ended up playing. But again, it's early on. And I'm not used to, you're still not used to playing with many people other than your, than your partner at this point. Right. And she giggled when she, uh, when she climaxed when she came. And, uh, and it was, it was weird for me early on. Like I, like I lost all ability to perform because I thought I was being laughed at. Oh, that's so funny.

I'm going the Lord's work here, right? Oh, my God, that's hilarious. I had never experienced that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now I've experienced that multiple times. It's not an issue. Yeah, of course. But it was interesting, just kind of the learning curve when it goes from bringing in a single guy.

It's three people. Okay, I know my wife. There's no new person I got to really deal with other than the guy and I'm not playing with him, right? Versus, hey, now it's my wife with another guy and me with another woman. And I got to learn this other person's body. and their their idiosyncrasies and things like that. Yeah, but isn't it also hot? I mean, it is a new person.

You know, what's the positive of that? I mean, there you are like, you're doing sex with someone else. Right in front of my girlfriend, right in front of my wife. And were you all doing it like in the hot tub together? Like was it full swap in the hot tub first time? Oh, no, no, no. We hung out in the hot tub and then we moved things to the bedroom.

Oh, okay. So, but it was very, very hot side by side. All of us playing, all of us having basically, the same energy throughout. Again, brand new experience for me. My wife would say I was like a bull in a china shop, right? A kid in a candy store. I could not have been happier to be doing this. It was really, really cool. And to not have her experiencing, you know, jealousy in a traditional form, right? Yeah, no. And she's also getting, you know, a new guy and she's having that experience. And so, and that couple now, did you continue to see them? Was that just a one-time thing with them?

I think that was a two or three-time thing with them. Now, but does your wife fool around with the women all the time? Is she into women? I don't know. You had that unicorn experience. I didn't really get the details. Like, is she down with hooking up with chicks, or does she not do that? She is, what we like to say, bi-selective. Right? So it depends on the, she would say that she's a sepio-sexual. So that's for, both men and women. You capture her mind first. You be outgoing. Then she's going to be interested in you. Right. So she's not going to play with every single woman. And if it's, you know, us and another couple,

that means another guy can take care of her and I can take care of the other woman. So she doesn't necessarily have to interact with the other woman. Right. So that first unicorn, she didn't hook up with her. Did she? Do you remember? No, no. That was both of them having fun with me. Oh, okay. Cool. All right. So now you're on, now you're doing couples. You're doing guys. doing girls like do you start to go to clubs and stuff and like get in more involved in the lifestyle quote unquote yeah so we went to this is a great story so our first party that we went to we went to a house party right we pull up to this house and again you don't know what you don't know when you first you know get in and i turned to her as we're sitting outside this dark

house with a poorly lit street dark house from you know from where we were sitting and i turned her and I said, hey, you know, if anything happens tonight, if one of us gets to play and the other one doesn't get to play, neither one of us is going to be jealous, right? And she's like, yeah, no, neither of us are going to be jealous. That's perfectly fine. That's what we signed up for. And I'm saying this to her thinking, I'm clearly going to get some tonight. And if she doesn't, I don't want to be upset and jealous, right? That's where you were coming from. I know where I was really comfortable, but that's not where this is going. Yeah. And so we end up going into this house. And again, And the whole upstairs is completely dark.

We did not know that the party was really down in the basement, right? So they take us down in the basement. Another thing I said before we went, it was like, hey, look, if I wake up in a bathtub full of ice and I'm missing my kidney. Right. I'm sorry. You didn't know what that's fine. Right.

So we walk into the basement, ends up being a really cool party. We met some good people, had some great conversations. And then later on, I lose my wife. I don't know where she is. I'm almost going on. But I'm having a great conversation with this person. That conversation ends. I go looking for her and she is just getting plowed, just having a great time in this bedroom.

And it's about time at this point. Like I'm like, I really kind of want to go. So now she's the one who has gotten to play. And I'm like, man. What happened? There was just no Hawk Girls for you or like you did it? Like, why did you not hook up there? No, you know, I was, again, new.

And I did end up hooking up that night later with someone. But at that moment. at that moment, I was like, hey, you know, I thought, basically, I take a long time to get to things. I want to relate to someone. I want to get to know them. Other people are more down to fuck. I've never been that guy. So I want to talk with someone, and that might take a little bit too long.

So my wife is just like, hey, I'm going to go play and you can keep talking until your heart's content and then you can play. Right. But I'm going to go. I didn't know that. So when I found her, I was like, oh, this is not. It was late in the night. I was ready to go. She started getting dressed when she was all done. And then finally someone came over to me.

He was like, you want to play? So my wife ended up having to come find me later. But it was interesting getting into parties because, again, you don't know what you don't know. Lots of different parties are different from each other. Some made us feel comfortable. Some made us feel very, very uncomfortable. That then led to going to Swinger bars or Swinger-friendly bars. or bar takeovers and have dancing.

My wife and I love to dance. So that's a lot of fun as well. And then we also found that clubs and bars were an easier way to get to know a lot of people at once. Because trying to run all the different social media apps, chatting with different people, setting up endless hot dates, it can get exhausting. And you only have so much time and you have your real life outside of this. And we ended up getting to meet some. really cool, sexy people.

I remember the first time we went, we met another interracial couple, because we're an interracial couple, right? Okay. And so we met another interracial couple, and that's typically, my wife's going to be, is typically going to gravitate more towards black men.

She likes men that look like her husband. Yeah. And so, um, we ended up gravitating towards this interracial couple. We went back to their house. It's not important what happened that night. What happened next is what was crazy.

Okay. So we ended up having a fantastic time. She was great. He was great. Everybody was happy with the situation. We're like, hey, we like them. Let's meet up again. Let's have them come to our apartment.

And so they ended up coming and meeting us at our apartment, which was fantastic. And so we end up having sex again, banging like rabbits. And then later on that night, and we're all in the same room. Later on that night, I get a phone call from her saying, Hey, my husband didn't give you permission to have sex with me. What? He left me. He left me.

Yes, yes. And during, let me just ask you, during though, everyone's having fun. You're fucking her. That guy's fucking your wife. Like everyone's orgasming. You say goodbye. We're in the same bed next to each other. Like, you didn't, like, you didn't get one inkling that there was an issue.

Like, everyone had a fucking eye time. We're doing side by side same positions. Okay. She's on top. My wife's on top. Yeah. On you, your wife's on top of me. Okay, we're behind them, but we're doing synchronized fucking at this point.

Okay. It's so much fun. Yeah. I get this call from her saying, my husband didn't say that you could have sex with me. I'm like, what are you talking about? And this is after a conversation, my wife and I were like, hey, that was a great night. Yeah. It was fun.

They were fantastic. The sex was great. Oh, my God. We could be best friends with them, right? New relationship energy. And so I get this call. I'm like, what the fuck is happening right now? Yeah.

Crazy. And so he left you? So I call him. I'm like, what is going on? He goes, oh, no, everything's fine. She's next to me on the couch. Something I should tell you about my wife, she's bipolar. Like, oh.

Oh, he's like, she's having bipolar episode. Yeah, I mean, you know, everyone's on their best behavior earlier on, right? You just want to, you just want to fuck. And so I'm now in the middle of this person's very, very, we're now very, in the middle of this person's very, very real bipolar episode. So it left a weird taste in our mouth early on in the lifestyle because... Yeah, but that's not common. I don't, you know, listen, most people don't have five-collar, but there are people,

and those are the, that's the stuff that you start to learn. Like, there are red flags, right? Like, that's a major red flag. Never play with that fucking couple again because that kind of drama shouldn't exist in a lifestyle. And I'm sure you know, because you're a professional now and you've been in it for so long that most people don't roll that way. Like, if you can't, if you're having episodes like that after, you know, things

that you're doing together. Like you're not, you shouldn't be in the lifestyle. There shouldn't be that shit. It doesn't mean that people don't get jealous and don't have little bumps in the road, but calling the other couple and how, you know,

and someone's bipolar, like that kind of shit shouldn't be going down. Yeah. And it scared the crap out of us for a little bit. So we like stepped out for like a couple months. Of course. Yeah. Because,

man, people are weird, right? Yes, especially because you had the best time. We know each other's weird. I don't want to keep dealing with this weird. But then,

you know, the it strikes again. No, because you know what, I got to tell you, guy, right? Because, like, what are they saying that, like, you non-consensually, like, fucked his what? You know what I mean? Like, that's a fucked up accusation, right, to put on you. Yeah. And it's not cool. Yeah. So, I mean, that's why we, we moved into going to hotel parties.

Okay. Okay. Parties are, now that was, that was overwhelming. I thought a house party was overwhelming. A hotel party was overwhelming. Well, walk me through, like that first experience, like, what was the hotel, how was it set up that made it so overwhelming? Okay, I mean, so the first night, we went to this hotel party, a city close to us. So thankfully, we're in a metropolitan area, so we have a lot of parties in our area. Yeah, that's right.

And we got there, and it was pretty well put together. There was a couple. They were beautiful. Again, I didn't know what I didn't know. And so I asked this woman, are your tits real? This is the first thing I said to her. Right. Are your tits real?

And she's like, yes. And then they gave us a tour of the hotel. And so we were there on a Friday night. It was a Friday, Saturday, party. And they gave us a nice tour. And so they walked us, the hotel wasn't set up well to begin with. They had a great setup for the party. The hotel was kind of wonky.

But that's why they gave us tour. So they walked us down into what would become a play area. They took us into, and so they had lots of beds, and they had canopies around the beds, kind of shears. So you could walk through. You could close the shears if you were playing. and people could still see you, but you would have privacy, right? Or you could have the shears open if you wanted it as well.

But then they also had bird cages, giant bird cages, because they had Cirque to Soleil type performers there for the event. Yeah, that's cool. But we're seeing it all before it's set up. So they're walking us through. And then they let us know the schedule of the event and whatnot. But they had DJs, they had giant screens with, you know, with, you know, lit up LED screens and all that kind of stuff.

They had music videos playing behind them. And so it was loud, and there were probably 2,000 people. Oh, wow. So it was a total takeover, right? They had the whole hotel. Takeover. Right, okay, cool. Whole hotel takeover.

Right. Which is much better than a half hotel takeover because it was a nightmares. Yeah. But it was overwhelming for me because, again, my wife and I are very conversation-driven and relationship-driven. Yeah. And so it's, we didn't know what we were getting into when we went to our first hotel party. Hey, want to boost your sex drive and overall experience in the bad room?

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And so it's, we didn't know what we were getting into when we went to our first hotel party. Meaning that there was, it wasn't like, it was like a lot of small talk and you couldn't really, like, really have long conversations to get that kind of action going. Is that what we mean? Right. Correct. Yeah. And so that was probably the first time that we had to switch things up. Like, all right, let's not necessarily have to connect.

Let's just have fun. And so we ended up meeting another couple from another country, again, because they're so close to us. But we ended up having a not so great time, a not so great time because we got into the bedroom and I'm firing on all cylinders, as I always do. And the guy was having issues. The other guy was having issues. And so that started, that was actually our first experience with that. And then, of course, because we've been in so long now, we've experienced it multiple times over the years. But that was the hotel takeover itself.

The experience was fun, but the sex was not great for my wife. Just because of the people, right. Or was it the hotel takeover fault for the not sex being, for the sex being not good? Or was it just like the people that you hooked up with? I think it's always the people that you hook up with. Right. Okay. So just that time it didn't work.

It did not work. Right. Okay. And so now my wife sticks almost strictly to people who look like me because of it. Right. Because why? She fucked a white guy that time and it wasn't good. Is that what happened?

Yeah. Yeah. And I try to be very delicate with those kinds of things because there's plenty of white guys who can perform five. Of course. But she never had any performance issues with any of the black. men that she's played with and she's had far too many performance issues with with white guys. And so she tends to stick with just black guys at this point. Well, listen, I mean, that's how you know what you like, right?

I mean, she tried it. It just wasn't that good. Right. Yeah. What's the different? Let me ask you this. Like, what does she say is the difference? Is it like, you know, a size thing?

Is it just like she likes the interracial aspect or they not as like, is there, like, does she feel like black men are better lovers or act a certain? way, like, what is the difference that she sees? Or is it their dick's our pick enough? That they look like me. Right. That's a little bit easier, right? Because, I mean, I, I mean, if you look, for me, I've seen plenty of women in the lifestyle.

Like, I have a friend who, her husband is bald and, like, almost every other guy she plays with the lifestyle is just another bald white guy. Because that's her type. That's her type. Right. And so, I think she likes someone who looks like me. But, I mean, if you did ask her directly, she'd say, yeah, I feel like black men are more direct, typically.

They take charge in the bedroom a little bit more. But again, this is sweeping generalization, but that's just kind of the way that she feels, and so she typically gravitates towards people who look like me first. That doesn't mean that white men are in the running. It just means that her eye

is going to catch, a black eye is going to catch her eye first. So to walk me through your first Swingers Club experience. I mean, now you went to the hotel takeover. I'm assuming you keep going back because it wasn't like the hotel takeover wasn't fun. It was overwhelming, but it was the, you know, the sex

was bad because of the person, but I'm assuming you went back to a hotel takeover. What was the first time you went to a swingers club and what happened there? Okay, fun fact. Never been to a swingers club. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, been in for a decade. We are in a state where you're

not allowed to have them. So, we have lots of friends who have been to one, but I've never actually been to a on-premise Swinger Club that is actually just that's what it is, right? It's just a legal entity. We've never been to one.

Right. We've got one about five hours from us, but we want to check out, but we've not been to one yet. Well, eventually you start, maybe we should go there. Like, I mean, what other kinds of experiences, like, has your wife ever done, like, any kind of gangbangs? Does she do, like, DVP, DP? Like, does she get, like, super hardcore?

Is she typically, like, just, like, with one guy? And what about, like, yeah, like, what are some interesting things or maybe how, you know, that you have done. Yeah. Yeah, we've done it all. We've done it all at this point. My wife has done gangbangs. They are not her favorite. But they've happened at parties. Like, hey, you know what? Here's a guy that I've played with. Here's a guy that I've played with. I'm comfortable with all three of these guys. Yeah. Let's go. Let's do it. Right. So that's how those typically happen. She's not walking into a room with three dudes. She doesn't know. But she has had them happen organically that way and she's also dated men on her own single guys on her own but a lot of our play ends up at

house parties right we're basically off on our own separate you wanted to ask what I do I'll tell you that in a second yeah yeah but we do a lot of that in party settings and only just more recently started doing it both of us separate from each other right but for for me man uh God. Ask the question again. What's like, what are the hardcore things you've done? I mean, typically it's like the women that have all the action and fun. They could do the three inputs that are airtight. I don't know.

You know, I'm curious of where you're going to go with your hardcore stuff. That's you tell me. I've done all. Let's hear it. Well, not all. I mean, I've done. Make guys jealous, Antoine. Okay.

Talk about the shit you've got to do. Shit. I have fucked porn actresses. I have done DP, I have done DVP. I have had guys call me to just fuck their wife in front of them. Oh, you've been a bull. I am a bull more appropriately. Yeah.

You just sounded like a bull right there. Yeah. So I have, you know, obviously we've done a couple swaps. I've done one-on-ones. I have a few women that I see. outside of my wife, obviously, on a regular basis. Right? So I've done basically anything you can imagine outside of like the BDSM world.

I've pretty much done it at this point in the lifestyle. Right. And what do you love? Like, do you like being a bull? Do you like fucking another guy's wife while he watches? Like, I've heard some funny stories from some bulls. Okay, let me tell you with a guy hiding underneath the bed in the closet, peaking out. I don't know.

I actually do enjoy it. I like being there. I like the power of it. I like the, I also kind of like the fact that I'm helping somebody else fulfill their fantasy. Right. It's like, hey,

this is their fantasy. They want a guy, you know, he wants someone to fuck his wife in front of him. Yeah. In ways that he says that he can't. And he gets off on that and they get off on that. I'm happy to be here, right?

I'm winning here. this is great but I like that I can help other people fulfill their fantasies which is maybe an odd reason for wanting to do it but I absolutely yeah that's called compersion like you you get off on getting them off right yeah it's great yeah I mean I've got a couple right now that I'm this Friday in fact is going to be interesting with them we can get to that in a minute yeah I really I really enjoy the cuckold hot wife stag Vixen scenario yeah that's interesting that's really really hot I enjoy

I enjoy doing that. I would say I enjoy being on the other side of it too, given that my wife plays solo. Yeah. So that's a different kind of pleasure. So yeah, I mean, but my biggest one, probably the hot wife thing. I really like. But you also, though, have a little bit of the thing where you like if your girl goes and play. Like, is that what you were just said when she does it solo to be on the other side of like her coming home and telling you about it thing? Yes. Well, here's the deal. I actually get more pleasure out of it. I don't have to know about it. Like, as a matter of fact, I'm like, you don't have to tell me about it. I want you to have a separate space where you can kind of be you in a different way. Because there's certain needs I don't meet for her just in regular life. But this guy that she's talking to, again, she's sepiosexual. She's going to play with him after he's already captured her mind. And so he meets a different kind of emotional need for her. And so for me, that's where I get pleasure with my wife playing with other people. people. Meaning that she's having a in-depth experience is what you're saying. It's not so much the sex and whatever. It's that your wife is getting to enjoy something herself just like in every way, not just sexually right is what you're saying. I get that. That's nice. Absolutely. And so on the other

side for me, again, I just enjoy kind of helping other people, you know, have their fantasy. And I'm getting to have sex with beautiful women at the same time. Right. I mean, you did, when I asked you about your name, I'm like, I was like, does it have anything to do it? having a big dick. You're like, I do have a big dick. So I'm like, is that why? Is that like how you became a quote unquote bull? Because like the truth is, you know, I never knew that this whole thing about guys wanting to see their wives. Fuck other guys was a thing until I did my podcast, right? And then when I did it, I was like, oh my God, a lot of guys are into this, right? It's a definite kink thing that they want. And a lot of times, most of the time, these guys want the guy that

fucks their wife to have a really big dick, like bigger than them, you know? Like that is a thing. Is that like how you became like a bull? Is that how and why you became a bull? I don't think it's, oh, hmm, that's an interesting question. Probably. Probably, I mean, you'd have to ask them, right? But I think they all enjoyed it. Obviously, because somehow word must have got out.

Like, how did you become a bull? Like, how did you become a bull? My wife let me start making hot dates on my own. Okay. And so I kind of went out there just looking for couples and couples who found me attractive would reach out and say, hey, you know what? This is what we're looking for. Would you be willing to meet for drinks? Yeah.

And you meet for drinks and then go to a hotel and do all the things. Yeah, yeah. And how have you had fun? I've heard really funny stories from Bulls, like I said, because every guy has a different sort of scenario he likes. And some of them get really hardcore. They want to be secretly watching, but you know about it. You know what I mean? or under the bed or, you know, they're creeping around, peeking and looking or like, I mean,

have you had any of those kinds of funny experiences? Or is he typically sitting on the side or they, you know, I don't know. You tell me. I've had situations where they're sitting on the side. I had a guy actually who would always call me and say, hey, my girl's here and she wants some black dick. Like, okay. And if I was available, like I would drive to where they were, uh, his house. And he would sit and watch. Yeah. And then he would leave. He would actually leave for little bit and it would just be me, me and her. And then he might come back in and watch. So it depended on their dynamic.

Sometimes a guy would very lightly get involved. He'd be stroking his wife's hair or something like that, you know, sucking on her breast while I'm, you know, you know, pounded it out, right? Yeah. And then you had, you have this upcoming Friday. I'm meeting with a couple, right? And he's going to drive us around in their van. See, this is what I'm looking for. This specific.

me and her to fuck it, right? I love that kind of shit. That's what I mean. These are the funny stories I hear from Bulls. I like them. I think they're interesting. You know what I mean? All right.

So that's this thing like he's going to pick you up. He's going to be driving and you're going to be in the back like banging his wife while you're driving around the neighborhood. Yeah. That's exactly what we're doing. Yeah. Oh my God. Have you been with them before and done that or is this like a new thing? I have had sex with her multiple times at this point.

Uh-huh. He has not been involved. Uh, he and I talk all the time. Okay. We stay in constant communication with each other. He's very happy with what's happening. I'm very happy with what's happening. But hopping in the van and watching us do it, that's a new thing.

Yeah, that's going to be fun. But let me just ask you, like, when you did make the change to playing solo, was that a conversation? Was it just like something came up where one of you couldn't play? So you went out and played solo and then you opened it up that way. Like, how did that come to be? I really wanted to explore what

all the lifestyle had to offer and my wife was kind of content with how things were going and say I just like this this way and so that's when I asked her permission would you mind if I found solo stuff to do and she was not super supportive

to begin with so it took a lot of conversations a lot of arguments right don't ruin your marriage over this stuff. This is all make-bel-leave. But I, we finally, you know, came to a agreement. There was a couple

that ended up liking me. And I ended up playing with them for two and a half years. Like clockwork on Wednesdays. Every Wednesday we would go, we would play trivia and then we would go to their house and I would fuck his wife.

When you say we, would your wife be there? Sometimes. Okay. But very rare. beginning did she start because like you're saying like like how did you go from having arguments about it and what were those like what was her like she wasn't into it like she didn't want you to go play alone but you were like arguing like no I want to like what were the arguments about I wanted us both to play alone I wanted us both to be able to have that kind of experience and she wasn't so on board at first and she was not right at all yeah I mean I think that's a big

step that's why I asked because I think that there is a very big difference between playing together and same room and everything to playing solo, especially like away on vacation and stuff. You know what I mean? But listen, plenty of people do it. And your wife at first wasn't into it. Obviously, she's into it now because you do it, right? Yeah. Well, I think because we met a couple and we ended up becoming friends, that made it a little bit easier for, okay, it's like clockwork. It's happening every week. I know it's on a schedule. It just becomes part of life in a way rather than, okay, it's the weekend. We've been working all week, and now it's time for us to be together,

and he's going off solo on a date, and then on Sunday he's going on a date, and then on Monday he's going on a day. It's like, oh, I had this one couple that I was seeing, and that made things a lot more manageable, I think, early on when I started out, you know, going out there on my own. Right. That's a good step into it, right? And then eventually, like, what was her first, like, what was the first time for her that she, like,

or when did she first decide, well, you know what? I'm going to go do it myself too, because she wasn't, she wasn't really looking for it, right? About a year and a half ago. About a year and a half ago, again, we've been in nine years. Yeah, yeah. About a year and a half ago when this started. And it was with a guy who we've known in the lifestyle for a long time. We met him at a party.

Okay. We met him at an apartment party. And there was some guy who was touching on my wife. I was out in the living room talking to somebody else. She was in the bedroom playing and some guy kept touching on her. And he came to her, came to her aid, came got me. We took care of the situation. That's how they met.

She liked that so much about him. She ended up, we ended up taking him home with us. Okay. So the three of us all played. We had three of us fucked. It was great. But we stayed in contact and stayed friends with him for years. And so, and he's a single guy.

Single guy. Got his own place. Great person. And so she decided she wanted to start seeing him. And that was the first person that she decided to go see solo. And I was completely comfortable with that, even more comfortable with that because I knew him, right? Right, of course. Rather than let's just make a hot date and find some stranger and maybe feel comfortable after a half hour.

I've known this guy for years. And so she started seeing him. And now she's actually seeing another guy as well. So she's seeing two people fairly regularly. And I would say probably that once a month with both of them at this point. Now for her, did she come back? Right. But like for her, did she come back and like, like if I was talking to her, like would she say that, you know, she was surprised that she really enjoyed playing solo?

I mean, because that's like a big step, I think, for someone who might be on the fence about it, right? But then she goes and play solo. It's a very different experience, you know. What did your, what did your wife say about her first experience? Well, because she was already playing solo at house parties and hotel parties. Meaning like with you not in the room and stuff? Yeah, I mean, not in the room or me and somebody else's hotel room playing with them. I think she was already set up for it.

But that was always, hey, I'm still on the premises. I'm somewhere near fun. Yeah, yeah. Now this, coming back after having stayed the night at another guy's house or going to see him during the day while I'm not there, that was an interesting, it was an interesting experience. She ended up coming back and saying, you know, she really did enjoy it. She wanted to talk all about the sex, which I let her do if she wants to.

I don't have to hear about it, but if she wants to share, she can. And she had a great time. She always talks about a great time. She's like, these two are my best fuck. They're my absolute best fuck in the lifestyle. Like, okay, that's good to hear. She just came back from a weekend down in Cincinnati. She just saw a guy.

And she came back. She's like, we fucked all weekend. It was great. It's crazy. That's awesome. I mean, like, I even called her. I called her one of the days. I was like, hey, you know, I just wanted to touch base, see what's going on.

And she said, oh, you know, we're good. Oh, my God. At the middle? I was like, I was like, what are you doing? She was like, we're still in the middle of having sex. I was like, why didn't you answer? Bye? Click.

But she's having fun with it. She's having a lot of fun with it, which is awesome to see. Yeah. And listen, I think it's very, I mean, listen, some people start, I've heard every story. Some people start playing solo right from the get-go. I think that that is always a big. jump. It makes sense that it happened way later. I do hear a lot of couples that have been doing it for a long time eventually get into playing solo, but it is a whole new thing. But, you know, I think it, you guys have like always been very much on the same page. I think that's what it's always about. You know, I mean, eventually she wasn't on the same page with you for the solo play, but she eventually got on it. And now it sounds like she really enjoys it. Yeah, she's having a good time. And it's interesting being on the other side of it because I'm having to do some of the emotional management that she had to do.

Early. Well, I mean, she worked through me playing with other people on my own, taking time away from our life. And I haven't had to do that because she never wanted to, she never wanted to go play with anybody, apart from us being together in some sense. And so now I'm just like, hey, I'm going to go spend a holiday weekend with this other guy for four days. You're kidding. Oh, holiday? Oh, okay. A holiday?

Yeah. Oh, wow. Holiday. It's holiday. I mean, it would have sucked if it was Christmas. It's not happening if it was Christmas. Yeah, of course. But I've done that, right?

She... You did that in the past of her, too? It was allowed. No, I get it. I get it. But did she care? But you said you dealt with the emotional ramifications of it, so maybe there was some feelings about it that had to be discussed.

It doesn't sound like you did it and it was like no big deal. No, it's more about dealing with things like, oh, loneliness. It's like, oh. Yeah, well, that's a thing. That's not a happy thing. It's like you're not with me on a holiday. They're not here right now. I'm not used to that.

That's weird, right? I'm used to them going and fucking and then we're back home together, right? So having to find things to do on your own or, you know, what to do with your thoughts when your person isn't around because they're off, you know, live in their best life. Well, fucking somebody else is what that is. She's already managed. Yeah. She's managed those emotions.

I haven't had to deal with it because she never wanted to do it. with it. Yeah. But you did have, but you, those emotions have come up for you too, is what you're saying. That's what I'm saying is now they are. Because now I'm experiencing what I've already been, I've already been playing solo. So she's already kind of managed her emotions about playing solo all the time. And sometimes these emotions don't come up. But, you know, I don't know. Like, this sounds a little bit very hardcore. Like a holiday, I'm leaving you to go be with my fuck buddy. Like, I don't know. Do you have rules? Like, let me ask you this. Are you guys like heading towards polyamory? in that you guys could have full-fledged relationships with other people, or do you keep it strictly sexual, and you guys are each other's primary, and that's a definite thing? Do you have any boundaries there?

Oh, we were Polly for six years. Oh, my God. I could have a million questions. You're just telling me this now? Oh, my gosh. Well, you didn't ask. Just tell me real quick, okay? Like, you were somewhere along the line you decided to be Polly,

and did it work for you guys? Are you still Polly? It worked for six years. Okay. The relationship we were in, worked for six years. Yeah. And then it ended. I would say that that relationship was still successful.

I would say that we are still Polly, but we are not currently in romantic relationships with anyone other than each other. Quick question. When you were Polly for six years, you're saying we, were you guys both in a relationship with another person at the same time? Or did you guys have... We had a relationship with a woman at the same time. Okay. So you were. So she was into the woman herself?

Correct. Okay, so this was a woman that she was, like this woman she selected, I'm into her, she would fool around with her. She also developed romantic feelings for her, as did you. And so you had this girl, you were kind of like in a threple. Yes, exactly what we were. Oh my God, would your wife ever come on this show? Possibly. Yeah, I'd love to talk to them.

Very, very possibly. Yeah, yeah, I would love to talk to her. She sounds super interesting. So you did the Polly thing for, so you were with that girl for six years? Yes, we were. Wow. And then it just ended like any relationship would end kind of thing. I mean, you know, not every relationship is meant to last forever.

You know, six years is, I don't consider something that ends after six years of failure. Like you were successfully together for six years with somebody, you know? Yeah, it was, it was awesome. And then it ended. It was obviously still dealing with the fall out of that. You never really get over heartbreak, but it's taught us some good lessons. Right. Like you learned stuff that way.

The whole experience has some good lessons. Really? Absolutely. Oh my God. Okay. Yeah, I can imagine, you know. But how long ago did that end? That ended in February. Oh, so that's why it's so recent, why you say you're still dealing with the ramifications. And now, so after that experience, because I feel like we have to get a part two with your wife and then I'll get more details from her. Like, it did, are you, is Polly still on the table even though, you know, that ended and there's still, you're still dealing with it? Or have you decided, oh, maybe Polly's not for. us because of that ending? Like, where do you stand on the whole Polly thing now, six months later after that ended? I think Polly is not currently on the table. My wife has said she needs some time, for sure. Yeah. And so, but I think we're still Polly-minded. Right. So we'll see what happens naturally. Anything, what happened six years ago was natural and organic. Yeah. And so whatever would happen And now would have to be natural, organic, and undeniable.

Yeah. And you're still, listen, it's like, you know, most people that are in regular relationships, whether it's a poly or like a solo relationship that last six years when it breaks up, they don't typically, if they're really dealing with things properly, like they don't typically jump into another thing anyway. They deal with the, they have to get over that last thing or whatever. So maybe you can't even think clearly enough right now because you're still just dealing with the aftermath of that specific relationship.

And when you're with someone for six months, it takes time to get over that. That's just normal. So who knows where you guys will be once you've processed it? I think you can actually get over a heartache eventually. Time heals all wounds. I believe that. I'm not fucking hung up on anybody at this point in my life. Like, you've been there, done that.

Eventually you'll get over it. So maybe when you are past it, you might jump back on that horse. Who knows with you guys? Because it doesn't sound like, you know, you guys seem very open with each other. You seem like you're down to try a lot of different things. I wonder where you'll be six months from now when you, you know, this is in your past. Yeah.

We'll see. Time will tell. Yeah. Do me a favor. I definitely have to get you back on. It sounds like you probably have a million gazillion stories left. And I could just talk to you just about being a bull. I could talk to you just about being Polly for six years within a thruple.

You know, I could get that whole story. That could be a whole episode, right? Could absolutely be that. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe we'll have you back on. But also see if your wife wants to come on. I'd love to talk to her if she's down and interested.

Especially, you also said you do contents with people like you're on. You fuck porn. I'm like, oh my God, we just got the tip of the iceberg on Antoine. But listen, Antoine, see if your wife wants to call in and then we'll maybe do a part two with you down the line, okay? Absolutely. I will do that. Yeah, you're great. So thank you so much for calling in.

This was like super interesting. But like I said, I feel like there's so much more to your story. We have to talk to you again. Hey, no problem. It's my pleasure. Yeah. Listen, and Antoine, listen, what people do for me is if you want to send me an anonymous picks for my Patreon, you can. They're always like, you know, if your wife knows you're calling in, it could be picks of your wife too.

but if not, I don't take picks unless it's just the person knows. But I'll also give you free access to my Patreon to see the comments for your episode. But I'll also give you free access to my Discord. And my Discord is like, I got thousands of people over there. I've over like maybe 5,000 people on my Discord. So I'll give you free access into there as well when your episode goes up and you can post picks in there or just talk to people or do whatever. But I'll give you that as well too. But thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story.

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