Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1204 - Natalie & Amber are a Cuckquean & Cuckake Into MFF Threesomes, Solo Play and More with Natalie’s Husband
Episode Date: August 25, 2025Natalie and Amber both called in to discuss their cukquean and cuckake dynamic with Natalie's husband. Tune in to hear all the details including when Natalie realized she was a cuckquean and when she ...brought it up to her husband and how he felt about it, Amber’s history of hooking up with couples and how that led her to becoming a cuckcake, how Natalie and her husband met Amber, how involved Natalie wanted to be in the beginning and how that changed over time to fulfill her cuckquean fantasies, their fist full on hook up and exactly what went down including the surprise creampie, what Amber likes about being a cuckcake and what Natalie likes about being the cuckquean, how things switched from threesomes to solo play and solo talk between Natalie’s husband and Amber, their first solo experience and what went down, what went down between Natalie and her husband when he got home, why this scenario works for Amber even though she’s looking for a boyfriend, the hook-up they had when Natalie just watched and what both are with their friends about their dynamic, what’s on their to do list coming up plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of both NATALIE & AMBER plus see pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://vb.health To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep https://butterwellness.com/ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website: http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Okay, I have another first on my show today, and I'm really excited. I have Natalie and Amber,
a cuck queen and her cuck cake. Okay, this is a woman, Natalie, the cuck queen. She's married.
Her and her guy decided to go out and find themselves a cuck cake because Natalie realized she's a cuck queen,
which means she wants to see her guy with another woman. Started out as threesomes all together.
Eventually they started solo play, and that's when she really realized she's into like the cuck queen thing.
She loves when her guy is like going out to see the other gums all together.
girl Amber loves being a cuck cake. She loves knowing that she's with the husband and he's going to go
home and talk about her. They've had a lot of experiences together. They walk me through the whole thing,
like how they met their first time together, then their first solo time together and a couple other
solo experiences and all that kind of good stuff. They go into details. They talk about, you know,
what they all enjoy. Like Natalie, like I said, loves being the cook queen and Amber loves being the
cut cake and they talk about what their husband loves about the situation too. It's a super interesting
story. I mean, I've had cut queens on before, but I never had a cook queen with her cut cake and
she brought Amber along with her and I couldn't be happier. So I have hot picks of them over on my
Patreon if you want to put a visual to this episode, sign up for my Patreon, the link. You've got to use
the link in the description. But you're going to love their story. They're super fun. So I'm going to get
right to and be right back on with Natalie and Amber.
Hey, Natalie and Amber. I have Natalie and Amber. Now, I got to like introduce you so everyone could
pay attention to this episode and know what the fuck is going on here because this is the first and
I'm very excited about this episode. Okay. And everyone else is going to be excited. But I want
everyone to know who the players are and what their roles are. Okay. Because I am talking to a
cook queen and a cuck cake. Natalie is the cuck queen and Amber is the cuck cake. And you guys
are calling in together. Now, I don't get a lot of first on my podcast. I had a first
recently. It was a woman who kicked a guy in the balls. I was like, that's a first. I've never
heard about that cake. But I've never had this on either. And I love it first. It's hard to come by
because I've been doing my show for 11 years. Everyone knows on my show that I love a cuck queen story.
Everyone should also know that Lela loves being the cuck cake in a scenario. We've watched some
cuck cake porn together. So we have both of you on and I'm super excited to have you both
calling in together. So Natalie, you introduce yourself. You're both on the call together. Let's talk from like for
your standpoint, Natalie, you're the cuck queen. I'm assuming your, are you single? Is Amber in a relationship?
Like, how does it work with your roles? So I am married. Oh, and yes. And Amber joins myself and my husband.
Oh, she fucks your husband for you. Right. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Natalie, of course the cook queen has the
relationship and the cuck cake comes in, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
Oh, okay, I love it.
All right, so let's get a little backster in the cut queen.
So Natalie, how long you've been married to your guy?
We've been married for a little over five years.
A little over five years.
Okay, so now let me go back to you.
Like, when did you realize?
Because a lot of women didn't even know that like this whole cuck queen thing
exists.
You know, I didn't know it existed until someone brought it up on my show.
And then I was like, oh, I think maybe I'm a cuck queen.
Like I have that little thing in me.
And anytime I air an episode, a lot of women email me like, oh, I think
I'm a cuck queen too.
Like when did you realize that you had this kink?
So I've always been very open sexually and I have not been a very jealous person.
I don't think there's one time that I just was like, this is what I want.
But there's been times where I've been in a past relationship and the significant other was
flirting with someone.
And I was like, why do I not feel mad about this and why is kind of turning me on?
So it's something that my husband and I started talking about probably a couple years into our marriage.
And it was all just fun and ideas and foreplay and kinky bedroom stuff.
And then we started actually kind of talking about if we really wanted to explore actually experiencing this.
And I'm definitely more sexually open and not experienced, but.
more open than my husband. And so I brought it up to him, of course, was nervous that I didn't want that to be like, you're not good enough or whatever it is. But obviously, we talked through it and, you know, we kind of would roleplay about it. We would talk about it, you know, really happening. And then also, you know, if I were to actually do this, how would that make you feel? And you never know until you're actually in it. But fast forward to a night with a girlfriend of mine and she,
She suggested I get on one of the apps, and we signed up for an account that day.
And basically, my husband and I also met on a dating app, or a second marriage.
So we were familiar with the dating app situation, but not as much the hookup app.
So signed up for it, said exactly what we were looking for.
We're not interested in.
We got a lot of people wanting to full swap or soft swap or, you know, whatever it may be.
but that wasn't what we were interested in.
And one day.
Yeah, but why don't you slow it down a second?
Like, what were you?
Like, what did you say to your husband that day that you brought up?
Like, hey, by the way, I want to see you fuck another girl.
Like, I mean, you know, what, like, how specific were you?
And then tell me, like, what you put on your profile that you guys were looking for.
Yeah.
I told him basically that I would be open to opening up our marriage in a sense where we would find another female.
to play with.
It was always the female.
I don't personally identify as bye.
However, that is just because I don't want to be with a female in a relationship situation,
but I have no issue playing with them in a sexual capacity when essentially the goal
is for everybody's pleasure.
So I wouldn't find myself playing solo with a girl unless my husband was involved.
and I'm sure we'll get into this later.
But in general, we do all play together at times.
But I basically told him I was interested in finding a third person and I would like to bring her into our bedroom space and how would he feel about that and how do we go about finding that?
And that's when we went through the app and we specifically.
But let me wait.
I need to ask you this though because I'm always talking to the guy who's the cuckled and he wants his wife to fuck another guy.
and I always am very curious about like how his wife feels when he brings that up because it's such a weird ask, you know, especially for a woman to ask a guy like, hey, you know, I totally want to see you like with another girl.
You know, like how did your husband react when you told him?
It was kind of a really.
Are you sure?
Yeah, yeah.
How is essentially is this a trick?
Exactly.
Same like a woman would feel if a guy asked her to do it.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly. And I think he and I, again, being a second marriage, we know that we are each other's person. We went through the ringer to find each other. And we already had a really good foundation and communicate very, very well, which is obviously very important in the lifestyle. And basically, we even said, you know, the first time we were going to have her over, we were like, all right, we're going to give it a go and we'll reconnect afterwards.
And if we don't like it and don't want to do it again, we can high-five and go on our merry way.
And it was very much, we're going to try this, knowing that I think I'll be fine with it.
And did you want to sit there and watch in the beginning?
Like, because, you know, or did you want like a full-on threesome the first time?
Like, what did you put on that app that you were looking for?
So I put a little bit of both.
I said that I was open to them playing or myself being a part of it as well.
I do know some women aren't into the female-female aspect.
So I was open to just watching.
I was also open to playing.
It turned out in this first time it worked out well that we all played together.
And I think that kind of ease the nerves for everyone.
Yeah.
As well as my husband, who again is like, you know, yes, this is cool.
And of course, the man in him is, yeah, let's, you know, sleep with multiple women.
but at the same time, he is a human and he is a good person.
And so he's like, I don't want to hurt my wife.
I also don't want to hurt this other person who is also a human.
It's not just a body per se.
Yeah, another woman.
Right.
He respects women.
He doesn't want to disrespect her.
He's nervous to hurt your feelings because you really have never done this before.
Now, had you hooked up with women before previous to this?
I have in college.
I played around a little bit, but nothing serious.
Okay, now let me ask Amber a couple quick questions here,
because is she the person that you meet like the first time?
Like, is she the person that we get into when you go on the app and you meet her?
Yes.
Okay, so let me just get a little backstory now in Amber.
Amber, you're there now.
Are you a unicorn on there looking for like a couple to hook up with?
Like, what's your story?
Yeah, so I'm also divorced.
I've been divorced for about two years, and I wasn't necessarily intentionally looking for a couple.
I have played with couples in the past, and it's a fun dynamic for me.
And what I was on the app looking for is a human who I want to date in the future.
I also very similarly don't necessarily identify as bisexual, because I know that I want to be with a man long term, but I have a lot of fun playing with women.
And I've found in my dating post-divorce dating journey that a lot of times people, if I sleep with
them too quickly, they get all starry-eyed and then they want to marry me.
And I'm not looking for that.
And so the idea of playing with a couple has given me the space that I have an outlet for my
really high sex drive and for a lot of fun experiences.
But that also gives me the flexibility while I'm dating to make sure that.
I am finding the kind of person that I want to find long term.
That makes sense because you don't have to worry about that couple like wanting to like date you or anything like that.
That's what you're saying, right?
It's magical.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
It's a great experience for me.
Yeah.
So you're on like a hookup app.
What app were you guys on?
Field.
Oh, okay.
Field.
So you go on field with your husband.
You're looking for a woman to either, you know, be with your husband while you watch or you're going to join in.
And Amber, you see their.
their profile, like, what is it about them that, like, attracted you to them that made you respond?
Or did you respond to her now?
Natalie, I don't know.
You tell me.
I don't remember exactly who responded to who.
I think for me, what stood out about their profile together was when it was really clear that it was a couple.
And the way that it was written was just clear that they're both incredible humans who are kind and believe in doing good.
it in the world and all of that.
And so from my perspective, I thought, you know,
worst case scenario is I make a couple of friends out of this.
Best case scenario is we can have some more kinds of fun together.
But it was the way that their profile was written that just kind of stood out to me
and gave me the space where I was like, you know, why not, why not try it and see what happened?
And now, Natalie, what was it about Amber that stood out to you guys that you guys chose her?
I think it was a very similar thing that her her profile wasn't it was more real it had real photos as opposed to just sexy naked photos it felt like she was an actual human and again though we're not looking for a relationship we're also not really you know like hit it and quit it kind of people yeah so we wanted
there to be some depth there as well, that we can actually have a friendship and we can talk about
other things that aren't just sex.
Right.
Now, I would assume you're both physically attracted to each other, too, right?
Like, do you both look at each other and Amber, did you look at her husband?
You're like, oh, like, he's super hot.
Like, you know, how was the physical chemistry even just like from checking each other out?
Well, yeah, I think, I mean, absolutely we're able to, you know,
B, I wouldn't get into bed with somebody that I wasn't physically attracted to. So yes, I mean,
it all is compatible in that way as well. But Amber, you like saw her hot because listen,
you're going to be like Amber's got to be attracted to the both of you, right? Because that's
kind of on the table for you. Amber, so you were attracted to the both of them. Like this is a couple,
because sometimes that's hard to find, you know, to get three people all interested all together
at the same time. And also Natalie, your husband has to also be attracted to Amber too. Like so
Everybody was attracted to everybody.
Yeah, everybody's attracted to everybody.
And it works out very nicely.
Okay, how old are you guys, everybody in this story?
My husband's 43.
I just turned 40 and she's a little younger.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I turn 36 tomorrow.
Okay, cool.
So you're, so you hit them up or they hit you up and now.
So walk me through like what happens like once you guys connect and decide to,
meet up. Do you meet up first for like a drink or something? Like start from there. Yep. So we
went back and forth. Who's this talking? Who's talking? Oh, this is Natalie. Okay. Cut Queen.
Yeah. Sorry. We met up for drinks. We had taken it from the app to texting. That's when I added,
I was running everything through the app. So it was just me communicating. Then I added my husband in to
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Text chat, and we all started talking there,
and then we just planned time to,
go get drinks and we met up and grabbed drinks and hung out for a couple hours and that was it.
We all went home that night and we all felt good about it.
And I actually remember this was the next day we were texting again and things got a lot more
spicy in our text thread.
And she actually had sent a text to us and said, can you see how we're changing the way that we're
communicating now?
and it became a lot more open and organic and flirty and sexy from all aspects.
And so we did that.
And then we, my husband and I had a date night plans.
And we decided to invite Amber and with the plans to go back to our place afterwards.
And we had our date night and it was a little bit of flirty while we were all out.
And then went back to our house.
and that's when everything happens that first time.
And so what was your first, like, fantasy that you were going to fulfill that night?
Like, did you know going in that this was what, like, you just wanted to watch or maybe participate?
Or did you know that you wanted to participate or you didn't even, like, talk about it?
I think my husband wanted me to participate because I think it relieved a little bit of the pressure from him as well.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I felt like, I mean, actually, if I remember correctly, we were sitting on the couch and he asked the question, so how do we get this started?
I guess you guys should just make out.
And that's basically how it started because we, you know, didn't really know how to make the first move essentially.
I mean, again, it's a first situation.
But so I was definitely involved in the beginning and it all just kind of organically happened.
and I mean, we can talk about other specifics, but that was one of my favorite times because I feel like once we went for it, we were all in.
And it was, I don't know, there's nothing like the first time.
Yeah, if it's a good first time, it's really hard to ever capture that again because it's like the most heightened experience because it was like it's so great first time for you.
And now let me just ask you this, how hardcore of a cock queen are you?
Like in the scenario, like what makes it different than just a regular?
three-some with a girl if you're calling yourself a cut queen. Do you want some conversation going? Do you
want to be a little bit denied? Do you want to be forced to watch? Anything like that happening for you?
So I'm definitely not into the degradation part, but it started out very much as everything stays in
this group text. Everything, every time we play is always together. And that quickly changed. So they have
had a few solo play sessions now and have their own, you know, again, text thread as well. And
some of that unknown is what's super hot to me. That's the cut queen in you. Right. That's what
makes the cut queen. Right. Yeah. I love to hear about if he will have solo fun with her or when
they'll flirt flirty text back and forth to each other or again, even if all of us are out,
we have some mutual friends, they'll be little like he'll touch the small of her back and like
I'll notice it and no one else really will and that really gets me going. I very much like that.
I also discovered after a couple play sessions that I do really like to watch as well. There are times
where I may not be able to play but I still encourage them to play. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. And listen,
when I'm talking to a lot of guys who have this kink too, like I think it's more rare that I get
the people that are very extreme and that they like to be degraded and deny. I mean, there's certainly
those people out there, but those are the extremes. But I still consider someone a cook queen or a
cuckold that just enjoys watching or having their partner go out and do that. I don't think that
they have to have that degradation thing. And like I said, most people don't have that. That's more
extreme, but certainly some people do. Okay, so walk me through that first amazing situation. I know
like you guys start making out, right? And your husband's there watching. Yes. And then,
And I don't remember exactly.
Wait, can we just hear from Amber?
Real quick, Amber, because this is like, is this your first experience?
You've been with couples before, right?
So this isn't your first rodeo, right?
Yeah, I played with a few couples in the past.
So not my first rodeo, but there is, I mean, each couple has its unique dynamic.
Totally, yeah.
Especially when they're having somebody else come join them and what their preferences are and what my preferences are and then how all of that works together.
So there definitely was a piece of working through what did each of them like and then what did I like and then how did all of that play together.
So there's definitely the exploring and learning and understanding and trying out different dynamics.
And at that point, did you know like she was kind of like a cuck queen and you were being the cuck cake?
Did you even have that terminology or did you just see this as like a threesome with a couple?
That's a great question.
I can't remember if we had talked about it some.
But I think there was a, I mean, either way for me, both are enjoyable experiences.
I think we aired more into some more of her kinks as we got into the dynamic a little bit more.
Because like Natalie shared at the beginning, everything was between the three of us and that one text thread where we were all.
all talking together.
And then over time, it's, it's broken out.
Morfed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's definitely been, I think, an evolution of comfort and exploration.
And then also just as trust is built over time, that makes such a difference as well.
Yeah.
And then, and you got into it, right?
I'm assuming, you know, that you got into and you were into the, it was hot for you
as well when things change and you were role playing like this scenario where you were
like being with her guy while she was at home waiting and that kind of a thing.
Yeah, there's definitely, knowing that he and I will play solo together and then that he's going back home to Natalie and is going to tell her about everything that's happened.
That is super hot to me.
That's one of my favorite experiences from some of that is knowing that I'm going to be talked about later.
Yeah, that's interesting, right?
And did you even know you had that as a kink, right?
Like, maybe you would have never even known if Natalie didn't come into the picture and, you know, had you kukkooing her or kukki kher, right?
Yeah, I mean, it was not something that I knew that I enjoyed.
It was actually something that I was a little bit surprised by from my own experiences because I, I don't know, I had never really thought about having somebody talk about a sexual experience with me in that way.
Or take another girl's guy, you know what I mean?
Fuck another girl's guy.
I mean, it's so anti like girls' girl, you know what I mean?
But it's all consensual.
So it's a different story.
You could kind of like get into it.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that first experience, you always.
all hooked up with each other.
Like, can you get, does anyone want to give the specifics of what went down that first night?
Sure.
Who wants to talk?
This is Natalie.
Okay, Natalie is the cuck queen.
Cuck queen.
Tell me what happened, what went down.
Yeah.
So, I mean, obviously, we started out.
And then I remember they started making out.
And I think, I may be wrong, but I think I ended up riding my guy for,
a few minutes and then
I told her to
get on and I actually
put him inside of her which was
so fucking hot
and that
that was really cool
to be able to like kind of sit back
and watch her ride him
and make eye
contact with him of like
kind of checking in but also like
holy shit this is actually happening
because obviously
that's exciting for him
and all of us.
So that was super hot.
And at the end of this very first time, I didn't know that this was going to happen, but somehow I ended up underneath her and he came inside of her and I was able to clean it up.
And that was one of the hottest fucking things in the entire world.
Because we know what that's called, right?
A cream pie?
Yes.
Very naughty.
Very naughty.
And you didn't know going in that was going to happen.
No.
And then it did, and it was super awesome.
And then I think, too, one of the biggest surprises for me was the aftercare, after the fact, you know, everyone, I don't know, I kind of didn't really think about it.
Yeah, that's interesting.
We'll all hang out and cuddle and talk and snuggle, usually just naked wherever we were.
and it's not rushed.
It's not, because again, we never want her to feel like, thanks, bye.
But also, you know, we want that little bit of time to just kind of come back down and decompress.
So, and Amber, was it great for you, too?
Oh, it was a blast.
Yeah, it was an absolute blast.
And I think part of it, too, was seeing Natalie's husband's experience.
I think both she and I knew that we were going to enjoy the experience.
He, I think, was maybe surprised by how much he enjoyed the experience.
Because he's an inexperienced one out of all of you, right?
Like, he's the least experience.
The most vanilla, right?
The guy?
More so, yes.
And I love being able to create new experiences for people.
That's one of my favorite things from a sexual side of it all is when you get to
try something with someone and they enjoy it and maybe they weren't thinking that they were going
to enjoy it or didn't think that they were going to enjoy it as much as they did or even just watching
like the expression on someone's face as they're trying something new is it's that is so much fun for me
and so it overall it was just a really like it was an absolute blast well listen as a woman who's like
sawed out couples and hooked up with couples i mean you have to have that in you for to be somebody
that was doing that like as a unicorn right that had to be
be part of your thing to be pleasing people because you're like pleasing more than one at times.
You're looking for couples. That's like kind of your job as the unicorn.
It's true. Yeah.
Yeah. So obviously like that's a turn on for you. Just like for Natalie, your turn on is like you said,
like when you made eye contact with your guy, a lot of times the cuck experience is like about
seeing your partner having pleasure and being pleasureed.
absolutely i think that is definitely something that gets me going is knowing that he's pleasured but i think also
he is more dom and amber's more submissive i can kind of be a switch between but i like to see him sort of
be more dominant towards her and see how much she likes it as well because i want her to be to get pleasure out of it
as well. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, so you like to see her pleasure besides your husband, too. So that's a
compersion for both people. Okay, so that first experience is like amazing. And so like what happens
after that? Like what, I mean, maybe it's like when does it switch to being like solo player? Do you
hook up like a bunch of times first like as a threesome? I think we did two or three times all three
of us together. And then I think I realized the more that we would all just text. And then. We would
all just text back and forth.
They had other things in common that just outside of the bedroom too, like professionally,
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Like, you guys can talk about it elsewhere.
I don't need to be a part of this combo.
That's funny.
Exactly.
So it sort of became like that.
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I would be comfortable with you guys having your own solo date.
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work or someone doesn't like it, we'll call it. And I think we're all comfortable enough
with each other to experience and try new things, but know that we're in a safe space that
we can say no. So same sort of thing with the solo play is I, we, I have kids with my husband.
She has kids from her previous marriage. We both have full-time jobs, or all three of us.
So it's hard. Sometimes you have to navigate all the timing, and we didn't want too much
time to go between. So I was talking with my husband and told him, you know, maybe you should get over
there because our schedules aren't aligning anytime soon. And I think that's kind of how the solo play
started was we just didn't want there to be too much of a lull between. We wanted to keep the spark.
So I let them essentially have their solo time. And when he came back, it was even hotter than I
imagines. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So it's interesting. Like, you didn't even set it up because you
want, you thought that it was going to be a hot scenario and take it to another level. It was really
out of convenience. And I have heard of solo play starting for these, for this exact reason for
other couples, not just cuck queens, you know. So that, and let me just a quick question for you
Natalie, have you ever been jealous or have you always been totally not jealous? Like I know that you said
earlier you noticed one time that someone was flirting and you weren't, but were you never a jealous
person? I'm not typically a very jealous person. No. We, again, with this dynamic comes
incredible communication and we do have to be very, very open, both myself and my husband,
and then also Amber as well with how we're all feeling about all of it. Yeah. There's,
you know, there have been times where I'll start to feel a little something, but then I'll talk
about it and be like, why am I feeling this way? What is going on? And I'll
get to the bottom of it. And usually it has nothing to do with the actual what I think I'm jealous
about. It has something to do with something completely different entirely. Oh, that's super interesting.
Right. So what exactly? And now, Amber, did you, uh, when, like, when you were first going to do
your solo date, were you like, what the fuck? Like, I don't want to, there to be problems or were you
so close with them that you knew as well that this would be okay and it was cool?
I think there was a little bit of both, to be totally honest. Yeah, I would be a little bit of.
little nervous because you don't know, right? Yeah. We had great, we had great communication. We still
have great communication. And I think there have been a couple of things that I've learned from
this. One is I actually, for parts of my marriage, was more in that jealous space. And one of the
things that I've come to learn from it is that I think it was actually more because of a lack of
clear communication versus it being because I was actually feeling jealous of a situation.
Like there was not honesty and transparency and openness in some of those moments and instances.
Right.
And so this has been a huge learning curve for me of how to continue to have that open,
transparent conversation when you have that.
And then there is this added kink into all of it, but you can have a great time together
and also that it doesn't need to be, I don't know,
that it doesn't always also have jealousy or anything in there,
but there was some, the first time there was some apprehension around,
I didn't want to ever put Natalie in a position where she was feeling insecure, like,
or uncomfortable?
Yeah, if you would feel uncomfortable in that situation,
you're going to project it and think like, because that's how I would feel.
I'd be worried, you know, because how are you going to know?
Because maybe you would feel that, you would feel that way.
So you're just going to assume that she might.
and that's totally normal
and that's the last thing you want to do
to her because you guys have a good relationship.
So what was that solo play like though?
Because I know it turns out to be a hot experience for everybody.
It was.
So her husband came over to my house
and we just kind of landed at first
and I think at least both he and I were kind of like,
we're going to do this.
We're like, we're going to do this.
It's kind of fun.
and I've got a chair in my bedroom and so I sucked his dick for a little while and then we played around
and at the end he was like all right I'm going to go back home and I got to get ready for another round
because I know she's going to pounce on me as soon as I get back and so it was just a really
fun great experience and then Natalie did a great job I think it was both that night and then maybe
even the next day that you moved back in with the three of us and we're like yep still feeling
really great about this whole thing, like not feeling jealous at all. And so her communication with it, too,
was really, really helpful to put my mind of ease of, okay, everybody in this dynamic is really enjoying
how it's continuing to evolve. Because I think you never quite know how it's going to go, but as long as
you've got that clarity around we're going to communicate. And if somebody, if something is great,
we're going to communicate that. And if we need something to change, we'll communicate that too,
has just been really, really helpful.
So Natalie, when your guy came home,
were you like dying for details?
Like what was your experience like
when he got home to you?
Definitely dying for details.
I had...
Were there pictures or videos or anything?
No pictures or videos.
We've talked about it.
We're still not there yet.
Okay.
You know, in this day and age.
But my mental picture is just fine.
I could almost be hotter, not knowing.
Yeah.
I mean, I totally get it.
Yeah.
So you wanted the details.
Yeah.
So I actually text him while he was on his way over there and said, when you come home,
I want to taste her on you.
Okay.
Oh my God.
Don't shower.
Yes.
The opposite of what a guy would do if he just fucked another girl.
This is his life.
Exactly.
So when he got home, you know, we, he came in and he passionately kissed me and I could
taste her.
And I was like, that's really hot.
And we just went to the bedroom and went at it.
and it was phenomenal and everything I've ever heard on your show or through anything I've listened to about reclaiming is absolutely true.
It is, I don't know how sex can get better, but I feel like I keep leveling up on the sex lately and I'm not mad about it.
It does add these little things do add a whole other level.
I mean, she's not even there and it's just the thought of what you guys did.
And sometimes I think people could just like fantasize about stuff.
That's like a great start, you know?
but adding these other layers to, you know, your regular cess game could really change the game.
Yeah, I think totally.
And I think part of the, I know going back to the jealousy thing, part of the reason that this works so well and that I think there isn't as much jealousy is Amber's been super clear to us about what she's looking for.
At some point, she is going to find her person that she's going to start dating and this will stop because she will go on her merry way.
And I think knowing that there is essentially, for lack of a better word, not like a threat.
Like she's not trying to take my husband.
I know that.
He is happy with our marriage but enjoys this extracurricular.
And again, we're different people.
So we have similar kinks, but we have different kinks as well.
And there are things she likes that I don't like.
And I'm like, cool.
Now I don't have to do that.
So it works out well.
Oh, for your husband.
Oh, my God.
Your husband really is having his cake and eating it too.
I mean, you all are.
I mean, you're all having fun.
But that is an interesting thing that I hear even from couples that do solo play.
Like, you know, they say, like eventually you just realize sometimes you might not be into all the same things.
And if you have somebody else in the mix, that solo partner can go do those things with your partner.
And if, you know, and that's cool.
You're getting all your needs met, though, too.
I mean, you're not interested in like fucking other guys or you don't have any other kinks.
Like, this is it for you.
Right, Natalie?
Correct.
I am not interested in sleeping.
with other people. I'm outside of this. And again, in the future, could there be another
female in this situation if Amber's not involved, possibly? But at this point, we're not interested
and we don't need it. We're good. Right. So Amber's your cupcake. I mean, and Amber's there. Like
Amber's your girl. You're, okay. And Amber, are you still dating other people? Like, is this a secret life
that you live? Is it a secret life that I live? I mean, you're going on date. You're going on date.
You're looking for a guy, right, at the same time?
Yeah, yeah.
So I am dating.
Yeah.
It's not something that I'm, like, thinking through.
I'm not super open about it with the guys who I'm dating, mostly because.
It's none of their business.
They don't need to know that.
You're not in a relationship with them.
I would assume you'd keep it private because you don't want to turn a guy that you're like,
because it's so sexually, like, it's so sexual that like you wouldn't bring.
that into like a dating conversation unless you're like once you're really involved with someone.
You know what I mean? Like it would just make them see you in a different way. You're looking to
actually date these guys, right? Yeah. Yeah, which is what part of what's so wonderful about
this experience for me is it gives me that freedom to really date people and see who do I
like and what do I like in this phase and stage for my life. It also means that I can come back to
Natalie and her husband and tell them about who I've been going on dates with and they'll give me
their perspective or advice on the different people who I've gone out on dates with and such.
And it allows for me to then also, I've always been a really sexual person and I have a pretty
high sex drive. And so it also allows for that to be something that I'm experiencing with other
people and not just with toys while I go on this dating journey. Yeah, well, let me ask you this,
Amber, have you, like, been with other people while you've been hooking up with Natalie and her
husband, or are you, like, you know, sort of monogamous with them and only sleeping with them?
I'm monogamous with them, and what I've told them is that if I'm going to start sleeping with
somebody else, that that would be a conversation that we would all have together and kind of
figure out what do we want to do from there. Right. Now,
Now, yeah, because you're having cream pies, right?
So if that's happening, there's no condoms being used.
So you all are going to be like just with each other, I would assume.
Yeah.
All of those conversations happened, obviously, in the beginning as well,
before anything sexual happened of, you know, birth control and STIs and all of the things.
Right.
We're grownups and you have to have those conversations.
Now, Amber, have you ever, like, gone down on Natalie after her husband fucked her?
I mean, not after he's come inside of her, I don't think.
I have gone down on her after he's fucked her some, but I don't think after, usually,
I feel like he comes in my mouth or in my pussy or in my ass.
The cupcake takes the cum.
Yeah, I was going to say, I think you usually get that.
Oh, my God.
That is kind of the way the scenario should be.
That's a little bit of the denial of the cutcake getting it and the cuck queen watching.
I know that you said over time it became a little bit more of a cut queen with the solo play and stuff.
Like give me a scenario where you like sat back and watched.
I feel like the last, either the last time or the time before that that we played was after I realized that I really enjoyed watching more so than playing.
And I think I was on my period.
And so I couldn't play.
And so I was like, I just want you guys.
to have fun. I don't want to cancel this night on behalf of me. So I'm still here. I'm going to watch.
I feel like I still always get a little bit involved, but I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to, like,
hide away and watch. But if I was on the opposite side of the bed and they were just doing their
thing, but again, we'll talk and we'll interact. So there's moving around. I feel like I don't ever just,
like, watch from a corner per se.
Yeah, well listen, I've heard all kinds of stories and it is kind of funny. Some cucks, the more extreme ones, whether it's a man, you know, they're hiding in the closet, peeking in and everything. You know, everyone has their like kinks and stuff. But like I said, I think that that's more the extreme person. But, you know, I do think a part of like the cuck queen experience is like sitting there and watching. I remember when me and Lila, she's like, oh, I got the best cut queen porn and she sent it to me. It was like the cut queen sitting there. And then the cut queen's like the cut quakes is like fucking the guy. But she like loved that person's role. You know, like as Amber like, like, like, like, like, like,
Amber, do you love being the cuck cake?
I know, like, Natalie, you like being the cuck queen.
Like, Amber, do you ever see, like, do you think, oh, like, maybe I'd want to be a
cut queen one day?
Or do you love being the cuck cake and getting off on, like, being with a woman's husband
and having her watch?
I definitely much more enjoy being the cuck king.
Like, that is, I like being watched.
I realize how much I have in some instances, but I think because of,
how Natalie's leaned into what she enjoys.
It's allowed me much more of an opportunity to be watched more often.
And I really like that.
The last time that her husband was over,
I was like,
can we please take a video?
Oh, so you want the video.
Yeah, I do.
And there's like the worries some with technology and stuff like that.
But I think that would be really fucking hot to have a video taken
and have it sent to her that then she gets to watch.
Where do you fuck her husband at your house?
Yeah.
Okay.
And that's where you sent him, Natalie.
And now when you are home, are you like, is the anticipation and everything, like a big part of the turn on, that's like the foreplay for you?
Absolutely.
I think knowing that he's over here and it's usually I'm home with the kids at that point.
So, you know, obviously there's the anticipation, but I also have to like make dinner.
and tell them to get their pajamas on and make sure they're in bed by the time he gets home so that I can have mine.
So it is definitely, definitely hot.
And it's something that I know that she likes.
I know that he likes.
And again, all of our needs are being met in that aspect.
And honestly, I think to myself and my husband said it to me too, but like, what is this life that we have right now?
And I never thought I would be 40 years old doing this, but it's pretty great.
Yeah, well, listen, you're going into perimenopause, most likely, eventually, in your 40s,
and you're just going to get hornyer.
Imagine what's going to happen.
Amber, you better not get a boyfriend anytime soon.
Because, listen, I feel like you guys struck gold with Amber.
I mean, you're very lucky, right?
I mean, unicorns are called unicorns for a reason.
They're hard to find, you know, it's hard to find, like a single woman that is available
for what you guys are offering, you know.
And you guys, though, sound very, like, cool in that I have heard from some unicorns that they feel like couples don't actually treat them like a human and they don't really take their feelings into consideration, you know?
So Amber also, you're lucky to have met them as a couple, right?
Because I'm sure you met couples that didn't treat you as well.
Maybe I don't know, because I've heard some.
I never really realized it, but I have heard from some unicorns that talk about how a lot of times couples don't really understand or know how to treat the unicorn in a way.
that they should be treated.
They kind of disregard them.
Yeah.
That definitely resonates.
I think, too, sometimes couples aren't necessarily as clear about what it is that they're
wanting or what it is that they're looking for or there's sometimes not as much safety and
trust in the play and exploration space.
And so if there's not as much of that, then you can sometimes unintentionally find yourself
in a position that something has made someone uncomfortable.
and unless they're really secure in themselves to be able to verbalize that,
it just can make things get a little bit messy.
And so I'm very grateful to have found Natalie and her husband because I recognize it's really a three-way street with all of this.
And they've been so communicative and so open that it's made it a lot easier to have that trust that if anything feels like it's getting in a little bit funky,
that we'll be able to talk it through.
but not every couple is as open or even as clear really on what they're wanting.
And that just, especially in a place that if there isn't that safety and trust,
it can be really difficult for the couple to work their way through on.
And that's never, like my intention is never to create any kind of space where somebody feels insecure or.
But they might blame you for it, but they might blame you for it.
You know what I mean?
If they're really not clear.
Because if they're not clear with each other, they're not clear with themselves.
and that could lead to, you know, problems down the line. Amber, what do you, like, what kind of
relationship are you looking for with a guy? I mean, you're like highly sexed up check, right? Like,
you're like, like, coquaining, hooking up with couples, you know, after your divorce. Like,
are you looking for like a monogamous relationship with a guy? Do you think that if you had a guy,
you'd be continued to have threesomes and play or like, what kind of relationship do you see
yourself in? That's a great question. I, so I definitely want a relationship that'll be,
that'll eventually be like very sexually open and exploratory.
So I wouldn't put out of the possibility to have threesomes in the future or even to potentially like explore swinging.
Yeah.
Further down the line.
Because that I think could be a lot of fun too.
But for now it would be something that's more, at least initially more monogamous.
Of course.
Of course.
Exactly.
Right.
But you definitely want to align yourself with.
someone that may be open to those things down the line?
100%.
That would definitely, if somebody was not open to that,
I don't know that they would be a great fit for me long term
because I know myself well enough to know how much fun I have having sex
and how much I like to explore with that.
And I need somebody who's going to be able to match that energy for me long term.
What kind of relationships did you guys have your first marriage, both of you?
I can.
Who said, oh.
Was that amber?
Were you monogamous?
Were you able to be monogamous?
Were you in a vanilla monogamous relationship?
Very much so.
Yeah, it was monogamous.
It was very vanilla.
My ex, he wasn't even all that, maybe knowledgeable sexually is the best way to put it.
And so a lot of times our sex was just, I would suck his dick and he would come.
And then he'd be like, okay, go play.
with yourself to finish. I'm going to go do something else. Like it was a very, it's just, yeah,
it was, it did not match what, what I needed. And yeah, there was, there was also a lot of, I grew up in a very,
like a very religious home. And so there was a lot of shame around sex for a lot of years, too. It was
just not, not really embraced in my family of origin growing up. And so it's been something that I've
oriented into over time and had to go through a whole kind of, like,
like self-discovery journey of being a really sexual person and not always knowing how to explore
or express that. And then coming into more of my own in the last couple of years.
Yeah. Listen, I'm impressed the fact that you did this. Like, I mean, you went exploring on your
own and doing all kinds of things that you never did before, especially coming from a background
like that you said, you're vanilla, you know, marriage, you know, very religious upbringing.
And then to get divorced and as a single woman to go having threesome with couples.
or anything is kind of bold. A lot of people wouldn't do something like that, you know?
Yeah. It's a lot of fun. Do your friends now, do your friends like regular vanilla girlfriends know
any of this stuff that you do or is this like a secret life? I'm going to say that again for you.
Some of well, I'll say what is funny about my life is I've found myself in the position that I'm now
the one that all of my, regardless of where my friends are at in their spectrum, if they have
questions about sex, I am the go-to person for all of that, whether it's totally.
or positions or things to like explore or if I like this, what else do you think I might like?
Because I've just been really open sexually.
Some of them do know about some of the couples play that I've done.
Some of them don't.
And that's more of like my own, I'll say, judgment or maybe bias on where they're at in their sex.
Yeah, you tell the friends that you know could handle it and are not going to judge you and not.
Yeah, we all know those people or our friends.
So you are open, though, to the ones that you feel like would be cool about it.
Oh, yeah.
And it's a neat space because it offers, I think sex so often gets, there's so much shame that can be around it where people just don't know how to bring it up.
And so that's part of why I like talking about it so much is because I think our life is so much more vibrant when we can embrace our sexuality.
and sometimes you just need one other person to help you start to embrace that.
I had a really good friend a number of years ago and we were talking about a couple of things
related to sex and she looked to me and she was like, you are a beautiful, vibrant, sexy
woman.
Just embrace it.
And don't hide it.
Just let that be you.
Like, you love doing all this stuff.
That's okay.
You don't need to pretend like that's not what you're wanting.
and that conversation made such a difference for me in just having one person say to me,
hey, just embrace this part of yourself.
It's okay.
And so because of the difference that that made for me, I try to be able to hold that space for
other people too.
And I'm sure you do.
By being open and just putting out there what you do, you know, so boldly,
it probably gives these other women the courage to maybe start exploring and thinking about
maybe what they would be into.
Natalie, I want to ask you, like, you know, what was your background, vanilla marriage?
Like, did you ever think you'd be doing this now?
I think you kind of alluded to it before that you never did.
Thank you and your husband.
Yeah, I don't think I ever would have crossed this bridge in my previous marriage.
Sex wasn't a priority.
It wasn't, like she said, it wasn't fun.
It was very vanilla.
it was essentially functional, you know.
So one of the first things I said to my husband,
it was actually on our second date ever before we had gotten married, obviously.
And I looked him in the face and I said,
we are going to have the best fucking sex.
That's what you want this time around.
Oh, I like that.
You knew that that's what you,
that was like going to be a deal breaker.
Like, that's what you wanted this time.
Yes.
And I knew that was something that I valued and that was important to me.
And again, it was.
And if this never happened, we would have been okay.
It was never something that I wanted to force.
But just like you said, I'm so excited that she found us or we found her,
whoever we found each other, that we have this because it is so much more than just a sexual
relationship.
It's become a friendship and it's become exploring and learning.
And I mean, I've learned a lot from her and I know my husband has and I've learned about
myself and just to kind of really explore and get out of that vanilla box, I think, I don't know
if I could go back now.
Yeah, it might be a little sad when Amber meets her real guy.
Like, you got to find another one of her.
It might be hard.
Who knows?
But let me ask you too, because I did ask Amber, I wanted to know about, like, do any of
your friends know what you and your guy are doing?
Or is this, like, all done on the D.L?
I have a few friends.
I have three close friends who know the situation.
And are they like have a million questions?
Are they like what the fuck you let your guy fuck another girl?
Well, so it's funny.
I have one who said they didn't want to know details,
but then asked a bunch of questions.
And then the other couples, you know,
some of them have questions.
Some of them, one of them said that, you know,
they're super excited to kind of live vicariously through me.
And they don't want to know all the details, but they're happy that, you know, I'm exploring what makes me happy.
And I really like being able to talk about it openly with someone that is outside of the three of us.
Yeah.
Because just to be able to have, you know, hey, this is something too.
I mean, again, we talk about like how to, quote, treat a unicorn.
Like, like, when we first started this, I'm like, well, we have to like buy the dinner, right?
Like, that's what we do, right?
Because we're the couple.
Like, you know, just those kind of things of like, you know, we want to make sure that she's feeling comfortable too, but also not like, you know, we're sort of dating her but not really dating her because we're not looking for a relationship. It's interesting.
Yeah, there's no Polly going on here. Now, is there any kind of fantasy you're looking to live out? Do you plan on doing more solo play? Do you have any like other things, kinks that you want? I know that Amber's dying for some video action here.
yeah I would love some video action let's work on that
I think everyone's a go what's the problem
just keep your face out of it Amber
yeah there you go yeah I think them having more solo play that's something I brought up a couple
days ago because I mean it's been a couple weeks now but
I think I mean just continuing to explore all the different
things that we want to do we we do like to play with toys and we do like
restraints and things like that. So I think more of that is fun. We have lots of options between
my book of tricks and Ambers. Yeah, you know, I had, what was her name, Jasmine? Jasmine was on my show
and Candy was on my show and they were two women and, you know, Candy was Jasmine's husband's girl
and Jasmine has a little cuck queen in her and for her birthday and she wouldn't like to be degraded
or anything, but she had herself like tied up while Candy like fucked her guy and she watched
that was like a birthday present.
So maybe you'll try that one day.
You know,
that was like a little cuck queen experience.
That's a little cuck queenish, right?
Absolutely.
I think that would be, yeah, super awesome.
Yeah, and now you guys never play together.
That would be my last question, right?
Like you guys don't ever hook up solo alone,
just girl on girl.
You, like said,
you don't like get into the girl thing
unless your husband's involved, correct?
We have not.
We have talked about it because it's a fantasy for him.
It would be foreplayed for,
for he and I because he thinks it would be super hot.
But again, I think Amber and I feel the same way that it's, it's fine.
It's just, it's more fun when he's there.
Like we both definitely like Dick.
Yeah.
So we also like to have that dynamic.
So I don't think either of us are opposed to it.
I just feel like if we were going to play, why not have him play too?
Yeah, I get it.
But maybe you'll do it for him because that could be like a fantasy for him.
like you guys play and then you come home to him with her on your mouth or whatever all that
kind of shit right same thing yeah yeah yeah yeah oh my god so how long you guys been seeing each other
like how long has this like we heard the stories and stuff like has this been for the last year
has it been for the last six months i think it was like march so it hasn't been that long so it's
kind of new it is kind of new we do have a weird backstory that we somehow know each other from a
previous friendship, but we didn't actually, we ran in the same circle.
Oh, how funny. We know the same people. So we were at the same place. We've put ourselves at the
same place at the same time, a few times, but we don't remember each other at all.
Yeah, crazy. Small world. Yeah, it worked out. But yeah, just a few months. And again,
we prioritize it. I think that's the big thing is neither, none of us have a ton of extra time,
but we make it a priority when we don't have our kids to try to spend a little bit of time together.
Yeah, I love it. I love your guy's story. Now listen, I, you know, I'll give you free access to my
Patreon to see the comments and stuff. If you want to set, I will hope that you send me like
anonymous picks for my Patreon for my Patreon. And I always say like R rated picks or like hot picks
but nothing X rated. You know what I mean? And no faces. Would you do that for my Patreon,
both of you? And then I'll give you free access to that so you could see like comments and stuff.
I always post my episodes early on Patreon. And then I'll give you free access to my Discord.
I mean, you could post on there, you could do whatever you want, you could just look.
You could do nothing, but I will send you the free access to my Discord as well.
Okay.
Awesome.
Okay.
So get me everything ASAP.
Listen, I'm obsessed with you guys.
I'm so glad.
Who listens to my show, Natalie?
Were you the one that was listening that thought, oh, let's call in?
I do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love it.
Well, thank you so much for giving me another cuck queen episode.
My audience loves when I have it on because it's not a lot of them out there.
But every time I think we do one, we create another cuck queen out there.
that flashes the light bulb in somebody's head, you know, and they're like, oh, I'm a cuck queen, too.
So I'll get more cuck queens emailing me.
That's what always happens.
So thank you so much for calling in and bringing Amber with you.
Of course.
Thanks for having us.
Yeah, this was super fun.
So send me those picks ASAP and I'll send you the free links and everything.
Thanks, you guys.
Cool.
Thank you.
Bye you guys.
Bye.
Okay.
Bye.
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