Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 121 - Rob and Rou are Polyamorous

Episode Date: April 11, 2016

Rob and Rou have been dating each other for a couple of years and they are now looking to turn their monogamous relationship into a polyamorous relationship. What is a polyamorous relationship? Wh...at made them decide to switch things up? Have they dabbled in polyamory in the past? Do they want the third person to be a man or a women? Tune on to find out as well as hear all about their threesomes and foursomes and five-somes and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
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Starting point is 00:00:37 If you want to follow the show on Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous or follow me at Cartoon Therapy. If you want to be on the show, if you have a problem that you want to discuss or just share like an interesting lifestyle that you lead, write in to Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. And I'll have you on the show. I recently got a lot of emails, actually, from listeners, which is great. And that's why I'm on the show.
Starting point is 00:01:00 on the show today, one of the people who emailed me, who was a listener of the show and was like, hey, listen, me and my girl. It was this guy emailed me. His name was Rob, and he said, me and my girl have a polyamorous relationship, and we've done all kinds of stuff, and he was interested in coming on and talking all about it. And he said his girlfriend was going to come on too, which is great. So literally the first time, I actually have a couple on together. It's Rob and Rue, and they're a couple who have been together for a while and they're polyamorous or poly something or other. I don't know. They say this word that I don't really understand. And they explain like how they, how that all works within their relationship and, you know, how they met what they've done in the
Starting point is 00:01:42 past and what led them to sort of wanting to have a polyamorous relationship. It's really interesting. I'm always interested in these alternative sort of relationships because I think the regular relationships, the monogamous, like I'm going to be with you forever. relationships or don't really seem to really work that well. So I'm always like interested in hearing whether these kind of relationships work. Maybe no relationships work or maybe relationships are supposed to last forever. That's what I actually think. I think some monogamous relationships work when they just work for as long as they do.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And then they're over, you know, and that doesn't necessarily mean that they were failures or that they, you know, it was bad. It's just that that's just the way it's supposed to be, right? So I don't know. I could just go on and on about this kind of topic because it's always fascinating to me. So anyway, so stay tuned. I'm going to get right to the podcast. Stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I'll be right back on with Rob and Rue. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Hey, Rob and Rue, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. You're on the phone with Kathy. How are you, guys? We're doing good. Yeah, we're great. Yeah, you guys are great. And it's great to have, like, the first couple on my show. Like, a lot of people have pitched it to me in the past, but it's never worked out.
Starting point is 00:03:23 But it's, like, very exciting for me to finally have both people on the phone. And just so my listeners know, like, you guys live together, right? I'm assuming, are you guys married or just dating or whatever? I don't know. But you live together, right? We live together. We've been dating for two years. We're working on getting married here fairly soon.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Right. But they're like literally in separate rooms talking on the phone. To me, that's how it's going to work, right? So now you guys were listeners of the show, right? And you wrote to me saying you'd love to be on the show. And like you, because you do listen to my podcast and you know I don't like to know a lot of information. I don't, you didn't give me a lot of information, which I love. You guys said that you are, all I know is that you are a polyamorous couple. And then you used another word, which I can't
Starting point is 00:04:07 even pronounce. What's the other word? Poly, what was the other word that you used? Polyfidelity? What? Yeah, polyfidelity or polysidilitous. Yeah, polyfidelit. What is that? I don't even know what that is. How old are you guys, first of all? Because it's like, it's like a different time thing for me. I think I was born in the wrong generation. I should have been born in your guys' generation. I'm 30 and around 36. Okay, cool. So what's polyfidelity or polypidelitus?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Is that how am I saying it correctly? Yeah, yeah, you are. Basically, it's just another, I guess, branch of polyamory where basically we're not looking for just sleeping around or anything like that. we're actually looking for someone to be with, so to say. Basically, we're looking to add, like, a third person into our relationship permanently. Like, this is our boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:05:05 This is our girlfriend. This is our third person in our family, you know? Right. So it's not just, like, for sex, right? It's, like, literally, like, you guys are going to have another, like, it's going to be an emotional connection as well, right? For both of you? Yes, right.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Now, how does it get decided, like, whether it's a male or a female, are you guys open to either one? We're open to other ones, but we've both decided that women are kind of crazy. It would be a little bit harder. We're mostly looking for another guy to add into our situation. Oh, my God. Isn't that so funny that the woman is the one that says that, oh, women are too crazy? I totally know what you are.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Oh, I am perfectly, women are catty. I'm perfectly all right with admitting that. Yeah, yeah, I know. We all know it. So you guys have decided it's a dude that you want to add into your relationship. I mean, we're open to the possibility of another girl if we find a right person, but we've been mostly, we've been mostly kind of heading towards the guy direction. Okay, now let me just get some backstory on you guys, because I just love, like I said, I love your guy's generation where you guys are open, because I think this kind of stuff is like much more common nowadays. I mean, not totally common, but it's going to be more common, I think, as time goes on.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And people in the younger generation, I think, are open to, you know, different kinds of relationship because I think that they've seen and what, it's really pretty obvious that the typical like a relationship like monogamous relationship to be one man and one woman for the rest of their lives in your the past for you because you're 36 like were you ever married and if you weren't like did you have long-term relationships and were they monogamous or did you always have like this kind of a relationship with people or is this the first time uh well this is the first time um i've been married before but it was a very short-lived um like a two-monther Well, basically it was about a couple months' marriage, but then it was like a longer divorce.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And you know how that goes. Oh my God, wait, but like did you make people come to a wedding and give you gifts and then you guys like broke up? No, no. Oh, okay. Because I get really upset with people like that. It's like, don't take me for that fucking ride and then make me come to your stupid wedding and give you a gift and then you break up two months later. Do you know what I mean? So rude.
Starting point is 00:07:23 No, it wasn't anything extravagant. So, yeah, we didn't do any of that. So you got married. It didn't work after a couple of months. That's a whole other story. We're not just going to get into that because that's a little weird. And then it took a long time to get divorced. How come?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Was there like a lot of money or something like involved? No, no, it was just a poor process. It wasn't really a huge deal. But just the core profits. And then at the time we were living in different states. so that took a little longer. But in the end. Were you guys always, first Rob, and then I'll ask Rue, were you always, and I'm just
Starting point is 00:08:03 going with the older guy first because I feel like, you know, he grew up in a little bit of a different generation, even though it's not that big of a difference, right? Because he's only six years older than you. But like, were you? Oh, yeah, go ahead and ask away. Yeah, were you Rob like monogamous in your relationships in the past? Or were you a cheater? Like, what was your deal?
Starting point is 00:08:22 I was. I've never, I've never done really anything besides like, I mean, I had one experience once where it was like a buddy of mine and his girlfriend and my girlfriend at the time. We kind of, I guess, decided to go ahead and try like a sort of like a swap or a foursome or something like that. Was there like a lot of alcohol involved? No, no actually. So you're just hanging out with your girlfriend and he's hanging out with his girlfriend and you're You guys, like, without any alcohol or anything, we're like, hey, let's swap partners and all have sex? Yeah, pretty much. Where do you guys live? Unfortunately, that didn't even work out because the girls, they, you know, girls,
Starting point is 00:09:09 they started getting jealous of the other. So nothing ended up going too far. But it was the guys that were into it. Yeah, basically. So you were into saying your girl get fucked by your friend and he wanted his, that's a very common theme, by the way. I didn't realize this until I started my podcast. A lot of guys want to watch their girls get fucked by another guy. But that's more like sexual. Like what you guys are doing is like not just sexual, right? Like it is like, I mean, you, like you just said,
Starting point is 00:09:37 you're like a typically a monogamous person. So like, what is it in this situation that you decided that you would like to, or why have the need to add somebody in, right? If you typically are a monogamous person. What about you, Rue? Let me get to you first too. I'm sorry. I'm jumping ahead. So what has your relationship history been about? Are you the one that's like driving this polyamorous thing? Or are you, like, is that how you've always lived your life? Or what's your deal? I have had more experiences with the freesome-ish kind of stuff than Rob that has.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Mine actually, I had a friend when I was in high school. I was 17. She was an older friend. Somebody I worked with. And she had a relationship similar to this. And we used to talk a lot of it all the time. Mm-hmm. Like, it was fascinating to me that, you know, okay, you're, you guys are sharing her husband?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Okay, cool. You guys are all work with this? You all have fun with it? Okay. And we used to just talk about it. We always had, like, I've always been interested in different things. And to me, okay, for personally, for me, the polymogamy, it's always fascinated me. Me too.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Even when I first learned about it, I've always been completely fascinated by it. Yeah, me too. about having the support system. Don't you feel the way especially? And don't you feel the way especially because you guys admitted to me that you had a baby because we were trying to schedule our podcast together, right? I'm like, I have a baby, so I got to schedule. And you're like, you have a baby.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And I've been talking so much about polygamy now that I have a baby because I really believe that once a baby comes into play, and I don't have a guy. And I'm like, thank God, because I would not want to fuck him at the end of the day. Like, I just would need those duties to be given to somebody else, like because I think it would, I would just need a break. And I think that like that alone is so I've been thinking to myself like that's probably why polygamy would be better because there's just certain times in women's life where maybe
Starting point is 00:11:32 she'd like to share the responsibility of taking care of guys because guys are needy. I really think that they are. You know what I mean? And when you have a baby, that baby is very needy, right? So you're just like, it's really difficult. So I really believe as well in sharing the duties with other women. And I hope that. responsibilities, Paul.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah, right? I think I hope that, like, in the future, future, it's a done deal. But so you guys, but you don't even want other women in the mix. You guys want another guy. But so... We want another guy, but for me,
Starting point is 00:12:04 it started, it started young because she invited me and two or three, so I got pregnant. And after that, we were waiting until I turned 18 before I got into this with them. Wait, who got pregnant? You got pregnant? My friend, no, my friend got pregnant.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Okay, so you and her husband. we're going to invite me. Right. You got it. You went into with the girl from work, right? But didn't they have another partner in already? Or did you do the three of them? She was married.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Mm-hmm. She was married. She had already finished her three from her tribe with her other friends. Oh, okay. And her and her husband invited me into one when I was 17, but we were waiting us. About to turn 18, and they invited me in. And how old were they? And she got pregnant.
Starting point is 00:12:47 She was 30. Okay. So she was a bit older than me. Okay, but not that much, but how long did that last, or did it just end because she got pregnant? We never even got to it. We never even started having the threesome, but it was already implanted in my head about it. Totally. We never had the threesome because she got pregnant and decided, well, she's pregnant and put that on the back burner and whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And it just never happened. But because we talked about it so much and I was so interested in it, it kind of stuck with me. It stuck with me quite a bit. and then a few years later, I had another friend and her husband invite me into a threesome. And that one, it was, I don't know, maybe they flock to me. I don't know. No, I think that when you put, they invited me, I didn't even. No, I think when you open yourself up to something and you start to ruminate about it in your mind, it like goes out and then that energy comes back to you.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I believe in that, right? So you were open to it and you were curious. So, of course, those kind of people, I think people could smell that from a mile away, right? so you got offered another threesome, and I'm assuming that one took off. That one was, it wasn't like full intercourse. It was mutual masturbation kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:13:57 But yeah, we, we, um, for, called, six, seven months on and off would just have fun. And, wait, the whole week, but for six or seven months, you were with them and you only jerked off,
Starting point is 00:14:10 never intercourse ever? Me, no, because I was always the extra person. Okay. And that was there rules and regulations? It wasn't even a spoken rule. It was kind of one of those unspoken things. But then I started dating somebody and we all had fun together.
Starting point is 00:14:28 There's four of us. But we all have fun together. So, you know, we'd all mutually masturbate and then go to your partner and have fun. Okay, but would you ever swap? Did you ever wind of doing anything with them? No. Okay. We didn't swap.
Starting point is 00:14:44 We didn't swap. And we went on, we did that for about seven months before. I got to the point where it was getting, you know, you wanted intercourse, but I didn't want to screw up their stuff. So we just kind of stopped. And then I've always been more open to it. And I have a group of friends that were through the top. They had had threesomes by themselves.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And one day we all have a big fives sums. It was just kind of one day who's like, hey, this is my friend's birthday. It was a birthday gift. We had five of us and we all just coming have fun. Wait, wait, but how does that have? So wait, so you're having three sons, and then you find out that your other girlfriends, like, you were like, oh, I had a three-sum. They're like, oh, I had a threesome two, right?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Is that what happened? And then you're at a party. Yeah, we always, my friend Chris and his girlfriend and then our two friends from college, we just all talked about it one day. And we were like, you, we went and we, we had, um, like, we've, I don't know if Dave was Busters in New York, but we were like a game bar. So we were there for his birthday and we were just chat and then. And I said, hey, you want to have a threesome for your birthday?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, sure. And then it looked at me because I'm, again, I men out because they were two couples. I'm like, yeah, I don't care. Let's go. Remind you, I have formed weird friends and on the way two Dave investors that get naked in the back of my car. So, like, and we drove right past the cop, and it was interesting. So it was already brought up kind of because they're all, you know, driving. And my friend, my friend Samantha is sitting between the seats of Iran naked.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I'm like, Sam, you need to go back a real. your Zheveld on at least. Oh, my God. I don't get pulled over. But was there alcohol involved in this situation? No. Okay. Not at that point.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And so then you all went back to that. No, I don't really need alcohol to be crazy. No, I love that. That's what I think is so interesting, you know, because I think a lot of times alcohol plays into it, but I think people that are really serious about this kind of stuff, but they don't need alcohol, right? So you guys all went back to the house and then you all did each other?
Starting point is 00:16:43 well like I was a neutral masturbation because he's two couples I don't have fun a lot of fun and with Rob is the only person that I eventually had full on three some contact full sex
Starting point is 00:16:59 your guy now Rob who's on the phone right this guy okay yeah yeah yeah he's the only one that we've had full on I've had full on in a car she's like two men at once
Starting point is 00:17:12 you know so we we met online he met through a dating site and he um the what caught me
Starting point is 00:17:23 my eye about him is he wrote me a letter an actual letter with punctuation and like a hello carry come on first sentence and introductory and like the body
Starting point is 00:17:32 three paragraphs conclusion and sincerely right and wait was this like a regular online sort of site or was it like an alternative place where people are like oh I'm into
Starting point is 00:17:43 no it was a regular It was just a plain dating site. That's all it was. And that's, I mean, this stuff in our relationship didn't really even come up for a year into our relationship. Right. So, Rob, when you first met her, was she pretty open about this kind of stuff with you? And like, did it freak you out or were you like turned on by it? Or were you like, how did you feel about it when you first found out?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Well, we've always had really great communication. so we talked about a lot of things. To be honest, when she was first telling me about her friends and all that, I wasn't, like, freaked out, but I was kind of taking a little bit of back, you know, but, like I said, we do talk about pretty much everything. Uh-huh. And, you know, so, you know, that kind of, like, when that was like, wow, when did you tell me all that stuff?
Starting point is 00:18:42 like pretty early on. Right. I was in the first three weeks, I think. I'm not very, I'm an open book, so I'm just, yeah. Hey. Right, you're kind of like, if this is going to scare you off, you're going to scare them off.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Sorry, what did you say? Yeah, pretty much. If I'm going to scare you off, at least let me be myself completely in the beginning so that you know that I'm a freak right up front. And we're fine with that. Yeah, exactly. There's no bait and switch.
Starting point is 00:19:08 No, no, I'm not catfish anybody. Right. I don't catch fish anybody. So you started letting him know that you were like pretty open sexually. And Rob, so at first it kind of freaked you out. A little bit, yeah. I mean, I wasn't like disgusted or anything or even like, oh, no, I can't be with this girl. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But, you know, it's, I mean, their experiences that I pretty much didn't have. She had a lot more experiences than me. Right. So you felt maybe like a little bit like, how am I going to like sort of be able to satisfy this person or she just knows more than I do kind of thing, more so than a judgmental thing, right? Right. Sort of, yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And now, so that's, so then she put it out there and then, so when did you guys start talking about doing it in your relationship? Like, Rue, I'm assuming you're the one that brought it up, and is it because you started to get, like, sort of, not bored of the sacks, but like, no, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't bring it up, I did. No, that's what I said you. I said Rue. I didn't say Rob.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I know. I know who's driving this stuff, brew. I could tell in the first two minutes of the call. Rob is like that he's along for the ride. Not always. Don't let him fool you. Oh my God, don't let him fool you. Please.
Starting point is 00:20:31 We have like, when we go in public, he tries to embarrass me. And I don't get embarrassed easily. And he manages it a lot. No, but I mean, like, with this situation, you could tell that, like, he was like, I don't know. Rob tells me that he's, like, pretty monogamous kind of. guy and this kind of stuff like and he didn't have all this experience like you know you're the one opening up this world to him right and of course what guy is going to say like that they're not into it
Starting point is 00:20:55 right i think that it's like actually probably if he really trusts you if the guy really trusts the girl and you have a real relationship right which i'm assuming after a year he really knew you when you guys were in love by then you know why would it why would he be like anti you saying hey let's like bring so i don't know about the guy thing. Like, we have to get into that because I'm curious of like what takes place between both the guy, like Rob and the guy. Well,
Starting point is 00:21:22 what really brought it up is a Toad Loaves song. And they're talking about, you know, watching people getting it on and freaky sex clubs. And I was just randomly just kind of brought it up. I'm like, it'd be kind of cool to go to one of those clubs. It'd be interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And that's where it went. And it just went with their. And when it came to actually looking for that kind of stuff, I let him do it. You what? I let him. I let him I let him. Right. Because we brought it up talking about sex calls. Like we, and he's the researcher. I'm the kind of slip in, let me just go do something. He's the researcher in our group relationship. Okay, so he Googled and found, he Googled and found
Starting point is 00:22:02 the good sex stuff to goon. He Googles. He was looking for, oh God, everything, everything. It doesn't matter what it is. I let him do the research and I take, you know, give him an idea. but he looked up like our area for sex clubs for these kind of things and we were kind of like well our area is kind of not Bible something exactly but it's not really overly progressive so we were kind of hesitant to really look for anything in our area because we weren't looking for what we're looking for is something relationship wise we're not looking for that okay let me
Starting point is 00:22:43 bang your voice. No, we're looking for another person to be like his his best friend, my boyfriend, our boyfriend, you know, our group. Wait, now I need to know this, but Rob, is this something where you're going to get it on with the guy too?
Starting point is 00:23:01 No, not necessarily. I've talked to her a million times about this before. I'm not attracted to guys at all. Yeah, there's always been some curiosity as far as like oral goes. Meaning like to blow the guy or to get a blow job or both? Both.
Starting point is 00:23:20 So you'd blow a guy but you're not, but see, I think people would be like, you've got to be kidding me. How could you think that that's not like into guys, right? If you would blow someone. Yeah, it's weird. Like, it's hard for me to even explain it. But like I don't consider myself gay or bisexual or anything like that because I'm not like physically attracted to anything.
Starting point is 00:23:44 men, like, I'm not going to see a guy walk down the street and I'm going to stare at him thinking he's hot or something like that. But in the sense of, like, let's say we're all together and things are going down, something happens. Yeah, that's, I mean. So you're curious at more of it in like a, in the middle of a sexual experience, but like you say you're not. That's like an interesting way to explain.
Starting point is 00:24:14 it. I mean, I would never think of it that way, but like, that's how it makes sense. Like, when you explain it that way, like that's how it is. I don't know what you would call that, right? Like you say, you don't consider yourself by or... I have no idea. Yeah, I have no idea. Like I said, like, I wouldn't, like, if I wasn't with Rue, I wouldn't go out looking for a relationship with a guy, you know? Right. I wouldn't go out and try to seek sexual adventures with a guy by himself or anything like that. what we're kind of looking for is a root sandwich
Starting point is 00:24:48 right but let me ask you this though Rob don't you believe though that after a while if this guy is in your life for a while that like you'd probably maybe after you gave him a blowjob and he gave you a blowjob maybe you'd get more curious about other things at this point in time no
Starting point is 00:25:05 but you know never say never kind of thing right let me ask you this because you guys said you've had blowjohn blow jobs. You've had, um, uh, threesomes already, right? Have they always been with women or have you done, you've done, you've done other guys with Rob. You said that, right, Rue? Right. It's just been men so far. Oh, okay. So you've had three sons with guys, but have you gotten the blowjob yet or given a guy a blowjob yet or no? No. Oh, well, not with these guys that we were with, um, but I have in the past
Starting point is 00:25:41 received a blow job. Oh my God. This is what's so interesting. about people. Because sometimes someone says something and then you're like, okay, then they start saying more and then you're like, wait a second. I don't know. You know, when did you get a blowjob from a guy? And that one was a drunk adventure. Okay, but like blackout drunk like you don't remember and someone has a picture of it or
Starting point is 00:26:05 like drunk like you were drunk? No, no, no. I remember. I've never done the blackout drunk thing. Okay. I'm drunk enough to let my inhibitions go. Okay, but wait, how old were you and when did that happen? And what was the scenario?
Starting point is 00:26:19 And who was it? Like, what was that done? It was about what, maybe 10 years ago or so. And it was actually a friend of mine. We were just hanging out. And we were hanging out and it just happened basically. Okay, where like at your house and you guys were drinking, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like, who decided to, like, make the move on the other person? Was your friend gay? Were you guys both, like, totally straight? And, like, who was the person that made the move? Like, how did it switch from, like, two friends hanging out, drinking beers to, like, someone blowing someone? Well, it was him that made the move. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And, like I said, it was, we were both straight, or at least I was straight. I don't know about him completely, but he wasn't gay at the time. I don't know about now. Okay. But what move did he make? Did he start kissing you? Did you guys like kiss? Or did he just like pull your pants down?
Starting point is 00:27:19 No, it was more like talking about it, really. The conversation came up and he was asking if basically if I've ever received one from a guy. And I said no. And from there it went on to would you ever? and it happened. And you said yes. And then he pulled it. And then did he so he blew you and like, was it like amazing?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Um, I mean, it's a blow job. Of course it doesn't feel good. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Just like the mechanics of it, right? A mouth on your dick.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But like, let me ask you this. Like, you thinking like, oh, that's a guy sucking me off. Like, did that create sort of like, you know, did that add to the sort of fun of it?
Starting point is 00:28:10 or was it like you were picturing it being a girl and it was just like a regular blowjob? Or was the fact that it was a guy, the reason why it was hot? Yeah, the fact that it was a guy had no relevance to it. I mean, it just felt great. Right. But it wasn't like an extra turn on because it was a guy or anything like that. So it could have been a girl that night and it would have been the same thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And so that was the only blowjob you got from a guy that one time. time since. Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. So you guys have had all, so now do you, when you guys have brought these guys into your threesomes now in your relationship, how many of them have you done since you guys been together two years and you said that you brought this up after a year?
Starting point is 00:28:58 So you guys have had a year of sort of having these threesomes, right? Right. And now, and now. Right. Now let me ask you this. Like in the beginning, a year ago when you discussed, let's go to swing club. Did you already know that you're looking for like that third person to be your partner and you just haven't found a partner and that's why you've just been having threesomes for a year? Or did you just decide recently that you want to make it a partner and not just do the threesomes like you have been in the past?
Starting point is 00:29:27 We talked about it intensively before we ever brought anybody in. Because we're really, we're very open about what we talk about and really how we feel and we get it out in the open so that there is no, there is no deep. exceeding worries or there's no, nothing that we haven't discussed. So we talked about it. We talked about swinging and we're like, yeah, I don't think I want to do swinging because it's just, we're some random guy. It's not, it's not out of the connection. Okay, so we talk about adding another couple.
Starting point is 00:29:57 That's another, you know, we're like, oh, that's out of demand, dynamic is kind of a little a little much because then you've got, you've got your feelings, their feelings, their feelings is a couple, how do you interspers this? So we discussed it some more And we said, well, okay, we could go to sex clubs But you kind of see the purpose of finding a relationship So we looked into it some more And decided, okay, one person
Starting point is 00:30:24 And we decided as a girl or guy Okay, I personally I can appreciate the female form And I have no problem doing things with girls in the middle of Of three some or whatever But again, like he does not look at this guy to me, adding an extra girl brings a lot of problems. And I'm not as really attracted to women.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I like, I think, I mean, don't, don't keep me wrong. We're kind of weird, and I'll point out a good, like, look and ask. Like, hey, babe, look at that girl's ass. Look, look, look. Right. You know, but it's not what I'm attracted to either. We do this often. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Very awesome. But we talked about it. We decided that, you know, another guy. Well, let me ask you, Rob. like, okay, but let me ask you, Rob, if it was like, were you okay? Like, she says like, oh, like, it's not what I'm attracted to, so why would I care about having a three, you know, but like, since Rob, you feel the same way about guys, right? You could give or take with them. Wouldn't you prefer for the third person to be a woman? Or are you the type of person because you're kind of
Starting point is 00:31:27 monogamous by nature that you don't need anyone else besides Rue anyway? So you're not sort of Jonzing for another woman? Right. There was no preference. I mean, we, have an awesome relationship with or without a third. It's been great from the beginning. This was never like something to fix the relationship, so to say. Right. It's always been just for like that extra, you know, a bit of it. Right, but let me put it in an enhancement.
Starting point is 00:31:55 A what? What's that? We consider it an enhancement to our relationship. Right. But how come, right. So what is the deal with wanting? Because I understand getting the sex more than. then the relationship aspect.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's what I find the most interesting, because I don't understand that as much. I've always wanted to be a swinger one day, like when I'm like 68, I want to be like a swinger or something. I don't know. And just to have like crazy sexes, do whatever the fuck I want.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But like to have, like, I don't even like to have a relationship with one person, let alone with the two people, you know. Like, what is the desire, right? To have that, like, why is it so important and that it's a relationship, right?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Because you guys keep making a point that it's not just about sex. But then when Rob just made his sort of analysis, it sounded like it was just for an extra sexual kind of a thing. But I know, Rue, you keep making a point to say that it's more for a relationship. Well, for me, it's like the kuligamy thing, having that extra person in their relationship
Starting point is 00:32:58 to A, help Rob with his emotional needs, mine, my emotional needs, and we help that person with theirs. The sex part, is because I like having sex with him and he likes watching me have sex with other men. So it kind of just works that way. Okay. So it is.
Starting point is 00:33:15 He enjoyed that quite that don't. Right. Listen, I got to tell you that on my podcast when I look up with the analytics, the ones where the guys either watch their girls fuck other guys or talk about the fact that they want their girl to fuck other guys is my most listen to podcasts. Like that's like the hottest fantasy out there, right? You know, I never even knew about that before I started to do my podcast, but it turns out that is a hot thing that guy's like. So obviously, Rob, like, you don't get jealous when you see her with another guy.
Starting point is 00:33:47 If anything, it turns you on, right? Right, yeah. I don't get jealous at all. Actually, the first guy we were with was kind of like a trial run to test that. And it was non-existent. Right. And if anything, like I'm assuming, though, that it was actually a turn-on, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Now, do you get double penetrated? We haven't tried that yet. You have to take turns? You are? No, I mean, I personally have not, no. We haven't tried that yet. We're willing to try it. We just haven't gotten to that point where we find somebody, A, that's consistent enough,
Starting point is 00:34:30 and B, that we really want to do it with. my I mean don't give me wrong I've had sex while rolling one of the other guys at the same time you know that's you know technically double penetration
Starting point is 00:34:41 done that quite a few times and I actually like that and so do they so um right we haven't found anybody to actually have like you know anal and vaginal at the same time
Starting point is 00:34:52 or you know what have you right and you because you also it's more of a yeah we're trying to find the right person and we haven't found them yet Yeah, that's what I was just going to ask.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And that'll be the right one. Right. Now, when you say, though, because, like, I know that, like, we were talking, like, giving girls a bad rap and saying we're all kind of, like, high mean, it's an annoying. And, you know, God forbid you add another girl into the mix. It could be kind of irritating, right? But, like, you know, guys have their flaws, too, right? So, like, adding another guy to the mix, right?
Starting point is 00:35:23 When you say, Rue, like, oh, we're adding another guy because, like, the whole polygamy thing, like, you know, I want to sort of share the responsibilities. and so like, you know, this other person could help with Rob's emotional needs. Like, do you really think you're going to find a guy that's going to be able to help him with his emotional needs? Like, I feel like that guys don't do that with for each other. Or do you just mean, like companionship needs? Like, you know, like they could just be dudes and they could just hang out with each other. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Hang out, be best friends. Like, what we're looking for is they're best friends and we all share each other. Whether that's emotional or. like because because Rob and I are our best friends we he and I we don't need other people
Starting point is 00:36:10 do you know what I mean like we don't I don't need a girl's night out he doesn't need a guy's night out no but you guys do no no but you do need another person like you do want a little bit more companionship like maybe you don't want full on friends right but you want to take that
Starting point is 00:36:26 and bring it into your house because you need a little bit of something more that each of you give, because that's why you're bringing another person in, right? Which I think actually makes sense. We could be this happy without people. We could be this happy without a third person. We're happy. We're completely happy.
Starting point is 00:36:43 The third person would be just, like I said, you're like an extra to love, frankly. We have a lot of love to give, and we want another person in our relationship to, A, give us love, you know, give each other love. Yeah, you're a much better person than I am. I don't have enough love like. I can't imagine having more than one kid.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I don't even love my cat anymore now that I had a baby. Like, I'm just like, I just don't have enough of that to get put around. But I might just be a horrendous person. No, we both have, we both are really big hearts and we love, we love people. I mean, we just do. Yeah, but you, okay, but listen, I have to let us let you know the things that, like, not hypocritical, but things that, like, sort of say, like, you say one thing and then it doesn't sort of go with something else.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Like, you just said before that, like, you don't even have. have other friends. Like you don't have a need for them. You don't have other friends, right? But yet you say you love people, right? So I would think people who love people and how that would have lots of friends and would be super social and be very out there, right? But yet you're making it seem like you guys stay sort of isolated.
Starting point is 00:37:47 We're super social. It's not that we're not super social. It's, we don't have any close, super close room. We have like a couple close friends. And then we have plenty of acquaintances. Yeah. Like we have a lot of friends that will. work.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Well, that's normal when you get older. You don't have like 80 friends when you're older. You know, I mean, I think that that's pretty normal. No. Like, my best friend lives in Scotland. Oh, it's a long-distance friendship. Yeah, she's my best friend. She lives in Scotland.
Starting point is 00:38:17 She comes and visits every couple years. But we can talk to each other like we haven't, you know, like we've been talking to together every day, even though it's been months apart. And, you know, we've got friends like that. I have another friend that we, again, lives not that far away, but we both have a really busy schedule. So it's not that we don't have friends.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It's more that we don't have friends that we have come over and hang out at the house. Right. But if you get the third person, it's kind of like a roommate, right, that is always around, an extra friend that never leads, and you get to have sex with them every day, like all the time too, right?
Starting point is 00:38:52 So it is like, it's not such a bad deal. Like I totally get it, right? And it's like I said, it kind of makes sense. you're the type that don't really want to go out and be with friends, right? So you're just going to, like, bring that extra person in. So now you have, like, you have two needs met, right? You get a little action, and then you have that friend, that extra companionship need met as well.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Now, what is, what are you looking for in the guy that you haven't met him yet? Like, what's your criteria? Like, what have you guys figured out that you're looking for? It's more basically than wanting the same thing we want. I think a lot of guys that are like that. Like, I screen a lot of, I guess, when I put an ad out there and I'm looking for someone, I screen a lot. And a lot of, Ruth doesn't even know half the stuff I screen out. I can imagine, right?
Starting point is 00:39:46 We're going to take over that portion. Right. But, you know, most of them are just guys looking to get off and, you know, just be with the girl or with the guy or both of them at the same. time. They're not looking for a relationship. That extra connection, that extra friendship, relationship, whatever it is. Well, Rob, now you know what it's like to be a girl, okay? That's how girls feel.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I guess so. Welcome to our world. That's just guys. Hey, it's not easy. No, it's not. And he screens very well. He trains very well. He'll give me a synapse.
Starting point is 00:40:30 if we find somebody cool. Wait, where do you guys advertise? Where do you guys advertise where, like, is there like a forum or a place where you, like, is there a dating site for people that are into this? Well, there are a few, but I haven't had any success with those. No, they're not usually in our area. Our area is very closed off.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Please, you guys have had so much crazy sacks that I want to know where you live because, like, a lot of shit is going down there, okay? You guys act like you live in the Bible. You've had five sums and three sums. He's been blown by his friend. I mean, come on. There's a lot of shit that goes down. People don't want to admit it.
Starting point is 00:41:12 If it is, nobody wants to talk about it. Nobody wants to bring it up. Nobody wants to be open about it. No, I know that's why I do my show because I think that this stuff really goes down, right? Because I hear from people from all over, you know, the United States, right? People call me from all. I post ads all over and I get people. calling from all over and this stuff is going on all over right people would think oh it's just a
Starting point is 00:41:34 play three i live in new york city right and i feel like there's more of this shit going on in like a small town in the middle of nowhere right than here is like that's why i do my show because i think it's fascinating that this is the stuff that's going down that people don't talk about because they can't because people are super judgmental but um so you so you so you screen the people i would assume that it's pretty hard because like listen i would think oh it would be great if there was a dating website strictly for people that are into that so you could weed out the bullshit. But there's probably not a lot of people just yet, right, that are really into that to sort of find, you know, to have a one website, right, and populate that because it's probably not a lot of people in your, in your vicinity,
Starting point is 00:42:12 right? You want someone to move in with you, right, and live with you. And so he, the person also close. I think it would be pretty hard to find. And then, you know, even if you find one guy that's into it, how do you know if he's going to be like looks wise, what you're looking for, personality you know it's like a hard kind of thing to find right oh yeah it's very difficult now have you have you met people and gone on dates and like sort of you know and then like and shit went down and it wasn't good like what's gone on well our first our first one that we met he was really nice it was it was a lot of fun but he had his own situation going on and then it kind of just we went on up two first dates and
Starting point is 00:42:57 and then a couple other encounters, and then it kind of tapered off, and he kind of disappeared. And, but he had his own situation. What was his situation? What was his situation? So he had a woman? He had, he had a girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:43:12 which is something we don't like in our criteria. And he came out and told us that he had one, but she wasn't able to have sex or something like that. And I didn't, we didn't try or anything. We weren't trying to get into his relationship, because that's one of our criteria that they don't have a girlfriend. Uh-huh. Because we don't want to try into somebody else's relationship.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And we don't want to cause strife. So we can kind of look for a single guy. Right. You want to invite someone into your relationship. Because at least you guys know where you stand in your relationship. You have more control in that. Like you said, I totally think that's smart. And then we had another encounter and it just wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:43:54 It just wasn't right. And sex was good, but it was a little rougher than what we were. used to and he kind of was, he wasn't quite right. You know, you get that feeling. It's like, you know, you're a really nice guy, but this isn't, you know, because he's not working for us. We've tried talking to a couple other people, but they haven't panned out. Like, one guy just didn't show up one night and Richard stopped talking.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Like, he wanted to do it, but then when it came down to the wire, he couldn't jump off the cliff and actually, you know, take the last step. Right, maybe he got freaked out. That's happened, that's, right. And that's happened with a couple guys, so they're not actually willing. They want to talk about it a lot. But when it comes down to it, then, no, nope, I don't want to go meet you.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I want to. Well, let me ask you, Rob. Yeah, the last one, sorry. And then I'll ask Rob the question on the answer. No, you go. The last one. The last one, he, I was pregnant at the time. When I got pregnant, I said, all right, if we don't find another third by a certain month.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Like when I'm starting to feel huge and I don't feel great, I don't look great, you know, whatever. I said after a certain month, we're not going to. the try anymore. We'll wait until after the baby's born. And we'll go from there. Right. So that's where you're right now. The last guy we met, he seemed really nice when he was texting and talking and we got there and it didn't work like not at all. Both of us kind of looked at each other within the first few minutes that went in.
Starting point is 00:45:19 He was just creepy, he was weird, ugly, like what was the deal? Nothing creepy or weird or ugly or anything. It just, his manner wasn't what we kind of wanted. He was more on the gay side. Oh, okay. He just seemed very gay and that's more than what we were looking for. We were looking for. I don't know. He wasn't there. You're looking for a dude that's going to get along with Rob, right? Like, I mean, Rob, you're, you want to be like, it's got to be a guy that you'd be, like, friends with, right? Like, that's important. Oh, yeah, yeah. Definitely. And, like, let me ask you this, Rob, because you're a guy, right? And so you could put yourself in these guys situation, right? Like, Would you be into being the third person in a relationship with a guy and a woman?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Personally, if I was single, yes. I do see myself. If that ever did come up, I probably would go ahead and do it. Right. And do you believe that this would, because you guys, are you guys married or you're getting get married soon? Yeah, we're not married yet. We're working on that.
Starting point is 00:46:31 yeah whatever I mean you know getting it's a process yeah it's a whole legal thing right I mean it's but you're together you're living together you have a baby together
Starting point is 00:46:42 I mean like you might as well be married you know what's the difference but um you expect that when this person comes in like that person is that person like equal in your relationship or is that person like the added person do you know what I mean like you guys are getting married you guys have a kid together
Starting point is 00:46:59 does that person come in and that person gets married too with you guys or is that person like more disposable than you guys because you guys have that sort of relationship first because that's what I think like people would be like maybe a little not weirded out by but like they would be like the third person is always like maybe the odd person out I don't know well we've talked about that that if we we added a third person that they would be our third it wouldn't be just him and I we would each have individual time together after after we've established that this person was going to be a permanent we've talked about this,
Starting point is 00:47:33 that if, say, me and this other guy are home, we can have sex and he's not going to be upset. Or, you know, me and I are home, and he's the other ones out there, we can have sex and he's not going to be upset. We've even talked about that if I got pregnant, it wouldn't matter whose baby it was. It was just our baby, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:49 Would you let your families know? Just be our kid. Our family, we haven't really talked to our family. I've talked to a couple of my friends about it, but our family, it's kind of like, if we meet the right person, we'll let him into the family, but beyond that we haven't brought up yet.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Right, because I mean, like, if that person is really for real in your life, right? So what happens when holidays come and all that stuff, right? Like, you would have to sort of go public, right, with your situation. Oh, we talked about that. That if it got to the point where they were permanent in our lives, we would tell anybody. It wouldn't bother us. We've even, like, brought up scenarios to, okay, so say we go to Thanksgiving dinner at my mom's house, to your mom's house.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And we bring that extra person, because guess what they're a part of the family. Yeah. You bring them. Yeah. And just tell the family. We've talked about what will we do in public if we were in public and I'm holding hands with one and kissing the other.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. No, it can't be. I mean, I think that you guys are smart in that. I really believe, like, if you're going to have a situation like that, it's got to sort of be. I mean, it's good that you guys really talked about all the different things
Starting point is 00:48:54 that could go down and that, but I think it's also really good that you're both on the same page where you're kind of loose about the rules. Because I think if you're like, yeah, well, I let a third person in, but you can't fuck them when I'm not home. And, but I don't know. Like, I just think it's like a recipe for disaster. Do you know what I mean? Because you just, look, look, you were mutually masturbating yourself with these people. And then eventually, like, you wanted more, right? So like, I just think that it's like really good that you guys have, like I said, gone through all those scenarios and, you know, and have decided that you guys would be okay with
Starting point is 00:49:27 anything, right? Like, you could have sex with a person when you're not there or anything because I think that's the only way to make a situation. I think threesome's when it's just for sex that you can have more rules and regulations, but when you're inviting someone in and you're going to have a real relationship with them,
Starting point is 00:49:41 if you're putting up like rules and regulations in that situation, I don't think it would work so much. All the rules go out the window. Yeah. And then you have to create your own dynamic. Right. It's like, because we have kids.
Starting point is 00:49:55 It's like, all right, what are the kids eventually? call this person or, you know. What's the answer? When do we introduce the kids to these people and, you know, all kinds of stuff? We all thought about that and talked about it. Who would that person be? Who would that person be to the kids?
Starting point is 00:50:11 What's the answer to that question? Yeah, we haven't really decided that yet. You know, it's kind of like it's one of the things we have talked about that's one of the things that's still up in the air. You know, it's not. I want to
Starting point is 00:50:27 we haven't answered for yet. Right. But, you know, we have thought about it. We have talked about it. You know, it's kind of like for us right now, we're an open book. You know, we're not openly saying to everyone we know, hey, we do this and we like this and we're looking for this. But if, let's say, one of our best friends comes to us and says, you know, and ask us straight out, hey, do you guys do this? we're not going to, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And eventually when you have that, eventually when you have that third person, like it's going to be known to everybody. What were you going to say you have two friends? I have two friends that I have talked about it with. The one of my one friend that had her own three person relationship. I talked to her about it. And then I talked to one of my other friends about it
Starting point is 00:51:16 who is very open and, you know, free spirited yoga instructor and we've had conversations about it. But it's kind of one of those conversations you bring up and you, oh, okay. they're like, oh, okay. My other friend and I had more, you know, a more in-depth conversation about it. But I think
Starting point is 00:51:33 because the way we are, we're kind of crazy, we're weird, we're open. I don't think our friends would be very surprised by it. Right, or maybe even your family because they sort of get, they know you all their life, right? Like, I mean, it's not like you're these, like you're always been sort of out of the box,
Starting point is 00:51:49 I'm assuming, right? Your whole life. Right. Oh, yeah, I have. Both of you. How about you, Rob, too? Yeah, for the most part, yeah. I have been, you know, I've always gone against the norm, I guess, if you want to say that. Yeah, totally. And it's not saying that some of our family wouldn't be upset by it because I'm not really close with my family. I have family.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I have fathers. I have a sister. Over the years, we've drifted apart. So it's not saying that they wouldn't have a big hit-hissy fit on their own. But, you know, it's my life. Right. It's my life. I think that they'd try to talk me out of it and they'd try to say, you know, you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:31 But frankly, if we're happy in the way we live, nobody's hurt, nothing's wrong. Why is our lifestyle wrong? Why are the things that we like and love wrong? I mean, it's kind of if you're my family and you really love us, you just accept it. And like I said, I'm sure both of our families, we'd have people who wouldn't accept it. We just have to deal with it. But that's society. They'd have to deal with it, right?
Starting point is 00:52:56 Because you're still going to do what you're going to deal with, right? And it's like, what is it? It's not hurting. You're not, guys are not hurting anybody. That's a whole thing about why I love talking about sex because people like, I don't know, people take other people like what other people do sexually like way too personal. Like it's like, why do people really care? Like it doesn't affect other people, right?
Starting point is 00:53:13 Unless you're like raping people, you know, or whatever. Like what people do sexually is really, listen. It's not like I'm sitting here having sex in front of my son. I'm not there. Right. It's not inappropriate. part of my kids. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I'm not in public having, you know, sex in public. They're not getting arrested for indecent exposure. This is what happened in my house. And for clarification, the times that we have had people over and doing anything, my son was at my grandma's house. Like you, we weren't ready to introduce you to this person. You know what? You don't get to meet him.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Right. And it's, but like I said, it's not like, you know, society itself is very, especially, American society is very closed off about anything sexual. Totally. Uh-huh. Yeah, I've had that on my show before many times.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Sex is taboo. If you are not in just a missionary position, you are wrong. Right, right. But yeah, listen to my episodes and my podcast and listen to what people are really doing. And that's why it's like people are doing such crazy things because it's like everything is so taboo. If anything, it just makes it all like hotter, I think, to people. You know, to be doing shit behind.
Starting point is 00:54:23 closed doors that nobody knows about because it's just like everything is just so dirty because it's like everyone the way we look at things here you know um but like you guys your thing isn't really about sex but you're open though to having a woman right i just feel like a like it's probably you're probably it'd probably be easier to find a girl i think unfortunately don't you think we were actually talking about that the other day yeah that society would look at okay say just a random person watches our house the girl comes over all the time and spends all her time here they probably wouldn't say anything of it
Starting point is 00:55:01 they would probably just think that hey the girl's hanging out you do the same thing on the flip reverse and you have a guy over here all the time hanging out coming and going they would probably be suspicious oh that girl's a whore she's got two men in that house we were talking about this the other day that it would probably but society yes would be more accepting if it was another girl
Starting point is 00:55:21 because they kind of just brought brush it off like it's a phase. But you had another guy and it's totally different because society views women so differently. Well, I just mean easier, not like easier in like the way it's viewed by other people. I mean easier in that so many women are looking for relationships and a lot of women are kind of desperate. So, you know, it'd be probably a lot easier to find a woman that's really looking for and, you know, that needs a relationship.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Well, like I said, like Rob, you see. A lot of guys aren't looking for relationship. They could just go out and get, like most men just want sex, right? So they could, and they could go out and find that anywhere, right? So you're not going to find a lot of guys that A, want a relationship and B, on top of that, want a relationship with a guy and a woman, you know, it's going to be, not to say that you can't find it, right? Like, if that's what you want, you'll eventually find it, right?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Because I believe that there's somebody for everybody. But I just think that, like, a woman, like, there's so many women out there that do want relationships. And because all the guys are like the guys that are email. rob and they don't want relationships and they just want to fuck right there's probably a lot of more women that would be up to sharing a guy and being in a relationship and having that kind of polyamorous thing go down so that's what i mean by easier you know um i know it's not ideal right have you have you gone out with any women like as prospects to add in or no no i haven't yet no i mean and now
Starting point is 00:56:50 that you have a baby, like, she might be more helpful. Like, you might be the one that needs a little bit more than Rob. You know, I mean, I just think, like, a woman, it's like, to me, it takes a village, and I think that's when women helping women really works. Like, that's what women are good for, like, you know, helping women do women things, right? So, I don't know. I've seen plenty of guys that are really take up the reins when it comes to kids, too. I mean, Rob is a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I know, but the fact that you're going to find two of them in one time, like I got to say, you'd be very lucky. But I do believe, just like you were getting all this. No, but I do believe, listen, just the way that you attracted all these threesomes into your life. That's like exactly what you want and that's your intention. Like you will eventually draw it to you. Like I believe that, you know. I don't let what I say.
Starting point is 00:57:45 I think anything is possible. It's all what you're looking for, what you're ready for, what you want, right? it just might take longer. I'm just saying if you're open to a girl, it just might be easier. But it seems like it's really way, you guys are your way, especially Rue,
Starting point is 00:57:59 you're way more interested in a guy not really open to having the girl. Because it's not ideal for you, right? Because you're not that into them. I wouldn't say no to a girl at all. I'm not going to say that it's off the table completely. It's not off the table completely. Yes, it would be easier to find,
Starting point is 00:58:18 but I think in our relationship it would be harder to have another girl versus another guy. Right. With our relationship dynamic. But yeah, it would probably be easier to find a girl, probably, the problem. 100% yes, and not even probably,
Starting point is 00:58:33 but why in your relationship dynamic do you think it would be more difficult? Like, what's your relationship dynamic that makes it more difficult for a girl? I think mostly because culture territorial. I'm pretty damn territorial about my house and I don't like you know
Starting point is 00:58:51 When we moved into the house I'd Rob helped do that all heavy lifting I put everything away because I know where everything is I think it would be harder to have somebody come in my kitchen Use my stuff and then put it away if I'm wrong And I'd be like, oh, that doesn't belong there Right
Starting point is 00:59:06 Because women are very very territorial I'm not I'm not saying that I wouldn't say no come on in if it's the right person. Right. It has to be the right person. Yeah, there's a lot of girls out there that are like guys. Like you would do well with a girl that's like a guy.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Do you know what I mean? Like there are guys girls that are like more guylike. You know what I mean? And like that kind of girl. Like this is my bro. No, just like I think I'm like a god. Like I think like I know girls that are more like they're just more logical girl. They're not so girly girl.
Starting point is 00:59:38 And they're, you know, you don't have to read their mind or walk on eggshells. And there's like a more like maybe an alpha female or something. someone who's a little bit more manly, you know, someone that like the kind of girl that guys don't really like, you know. That's me. That's me. Oh, okay. There you go.
Starting point is 00:59:55 I'm that alpha. Right. That's me too. But, right. So I think, I think that, I think two alphas could get along. But maybe, I don't know though that two alphas can get along on the same island, right? And that's what your house would be. That would be the island.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And if you're the alpha, you would need a beta. you would definitely need a beta to coexist. I mean, you could be friends with one, but I think if you were sharing a guy, it probably wouldn't work with the alpha. So forget about the guy guy. You'd have to have a girl, girl, and then it could be a nightmare.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Well, I mean, that's if my sweetheart can make sure he gets the two girls and serves two girls at the same time. Right. Yeah, that's going to be a little difficult. we're up and honest about ourselves and we're up and honest about ourselves. Hmm. But you guys could always...
Starting point is 01:00:51 We talked about adding a girl. Right. And adding a girl, like, with a strap on, like, one of those kind of things. We've talked about that. And if we found the right, like I said, the right girl, same with me over the right guy. It would just work.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Like, we'd even talk about changing our strategy about trying to find a person, like, possibly just trying to find a person. a friend, make friends that maybe further on, we can add them, and because they're already friends and we've, you know, so make some new friends that are open, more open to the idea of. Yeah, and I think you should continue to hang out like swingers clubs, like places in your area that, like, you know, because just like you guys were at swinger clubs, but you were
Starting point is 01:01:34 like there, but like you were looking for something different. Like, I would think that you're going to more likely find somebody in a place like that than in a regular place, you know. So maybe you find the person that's not the Swinger Club, but that's looking for more, you know, at that place, you know, and just to put more ads. I would do you put ads on Craigslist? Yeah, I've actually done a couple for Craigslist.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Uh-huh. And then I've answered one. So the first guy that, the first guy that we tried this with was actually me answering his ad. Uh-huh. And we'll, and I, and I, like I said, I put one out there, but that's about it. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Well, Craigslist is hard, but, like, I just think that there's a lot of guys on there. So if you're looking for a guy, like, you know, if you're a girl looking for, like, you know, it's a lot of times it's not good in certain situations. But in this situation, you know, that might be a place where somebody like that is looking, you know. But I think it's, like, smart that you guys put it out there and keep doing ads and, you know, but I think if you hang out at it, like, the, I don't know how. much how able like how like how like how sort of realistic it would be to like get a friend in as a guy and then switch it around and be like hey now like let's kind of blow each other and you could fuck my girl let's have a relationship I don't know but maybe that would maybe that is another angle right like why not try all different things but I think you're it's more like it's more likely that you're going to meet
Starting point is 01:03:04 the guy and it's going to be straight up from the beginning you know what I mean this is somebody that's looking exactly what you're looking for and he's going to to be the right person. You'll eventually find him. Like, how could you not? You know what I mean? You guys are together forever, right? You've only put together for two years.
Starting point is 01:03:21 So you'll eventually find that guy. But I think that you just got to keep looking. It's so fascinating to me. I can't wait to find out who this guy is and how you meet him and how it works out. It's a rare breed, you know? You're looking for somebody rare. But, like, look, you guys met each other, right? I think some people, if you called me up Roo as a woman and said, oh,
Starting point is 01:03:42 30 and I'm looking to be polyamorous with a guy, but I only want a guy in and like all these things, right? Like maybe some people would say, oh, you're never going to find a guy that's going to want to be with you and be open. But like, look, you met Rob, right? And vice versa, I could say the same thing to Rob, you know. So I just think that there's so many people out there that are into so many different things and there's somebody for everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:04 And, you know, you guys will eventually find exactly what you're looking for. I believe that. And I can't wait to hear that in my update show. like when it actually goes down. We can't wait to find that person too. Yeah. We can't wait to find that person too. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And so you're looking hardcore even now that you had a baby. Are you taking any time off? Well, we, it was about, I was about seven months along when I finally went, nope, we need to stop. And we're waiting a little bit longer until the baby's a little bit older. But then we're going to start looking again. Right. Okay. Well, good luck.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I love hearing this kind of stuff. I think it's so fast. I think more and more people as time goes by will be into this kind of stuff. I mean, they've had shows on TV. It's not like, you know, a lot of people are more open to these kind of relationships. You should look for like younger guys too. Like, do you have like age range that you're looking at? We try to not go over 40.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Because for me that 10 year gap is a, they're at a different headspace than I am. But what's the youngest? Like, what's the youngest that you look for? Oh, we were saying, 25 because again you go too much younger again it's a totally different headspace they're not looking for necessarily you know we're so we're looking for someone between 25 and like 40 right right well that's good yeah yeah you might wind up meeting like like you know someone super young that's into it or maybe somebody like rob who's a little bit older who's like had sort of you know done things
Starting point is 01:05:40 pretty conventionally but like isn't really conventional because of rob like you say you've always done things out of the box. So it was just a matter of time. Like, you must have felt like you hit the jackpot when you finally met Rue, right? Because she was somebody that was like more in line with what you were always probably looking for, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, I believe it that every guy's dream basically to have someone like her. Yeah, definitely. I think so. But I mean, for you, because you're not like really, like, I don't know, you're not like a player type of guy that was always looking just for seven.
Starting point is 01:06:14 but it's just like, I think that, um, right? I don't know. That's what you've given me the impression. But like you've just like more unconventional. No, I've never been. But more unconventional and like interested in doing things very different, you know? And so you met a girl. I don't even just mean sexually.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It's just like it's like interesting that, you know, you found somebody as like sort of different and open to things that are different as you are. Right. And you just need that third person. And they have to exist where you guys look. Like I believe it exists. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that person's out there. We just have to keep looking and hopefully, hopefully everything works out.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah, it always takes a long time for anyone to find, like, the one, right? I mean, that's what you guys are looking for. You're looking for the one, right? It's like if you had a girlfriend that was looking for a real relationship or Rob, you were, you know, you had a guy friend that was like, oh, I'm finally ready to meet the one. Like, you know he's not going to go out the next day and meet the person, right? It always takes a while because what you're really looking for, you're really looking for. or somebody that, you know, all the stars align, right? It's not just for sex.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It's not just for a friend. So, you know, it's just going to take a little bit like it does for anybody to find, like, that real relationship. Oh, yeah. But I hope it's like soon. I was 29 before I met Rob. Exactly. Well, hopefully it's not that long because I don't know if 30 years from now I'll still
Starting point is 01:07:36 be doing this podcast. I want you to like meet someone pretty soon so I get the update. Okay. Oh, yeah. We're hoping. Okay. Well, keep me posted. This was like so fascinating.
Starting point is 01:07:46 I'm, it's exciting to have, like, the first couple on. And you guys, it was like talking to one person because you guys are so on the same page, you know. But I think that that's like a great. Yeah, we get that a lot. Yeah, like, I was going to ask that before. Like, do you guys agree on everything? But it really seems like you do. And that's like a good thing.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You know, that's like super healthy. And I think you guys have a great relationship. And, you know, I'm curious of how it works out, though, when that third person comes in. And that's what I'm dying to hear about. So keep me posted and let me. me know, you know, when you meet that new person. Yeah, well, definitely keep you coldly. And thanks for giving us the time to speak our peace, I guess.
Starting point is 01:08:28 You know, it's really nice to get that out there because we don't really talk to a lot of people about it. So just keep talking to you, even though it's anonymous. No, that's the only way it works. That's what I love. I was telling my friend that tonight, I had a girl on my show the other day who was my friend and I had to edit so much shit out because she wanted to be her and because she's a comedian. And I'm like, this is why I do my show anonymously because I don't have to edit shit out and
Starting point is 01:08:53 people could talk about real things, you know, because they don't have to be worried about people knowing. And that's what people need to hear. People need to hear the truth. And you get it more so, I believe, if you don't tell people who people are and like who cares who you guys really are. You know what I mean? What matters is that like your people that exist and this is what you're doing and probably other people can relate, or people like to hear about it. And I love it. I think it's fascinating because, like I say,
Starting point is 01:09:21 always my motto is, like, I never talk about celebrities because I think real people are fascinating. This is, like, what real people do. And I've never, like, it never ceases to amaze me what I hear from people that call my show. I think it's super fascinating. And I love, like, your guys thing,
Starting point is 01:09:37 because I think it's progressive, and it's, like, what probably, like, you know, 100 years from now, like this kind of stuff that you guys, are doing is going to be like very common and you guys are just like on the forefront of it you know so it was like a great topic for me to get on my show because you know I think this is the type of thing that's going to be more common as time goes by the time goes on you know so good luck because our society's evolving totally I love it like I said I was born in a time where everyone was like it was 10,000
Starting point is 01:10:06 times worse when I was growing up like you don't even know like you know so you know you guys have it you have it a lot better because look you could talk to your friends about all the stuff that you do and they're kind of doing the same stuff and you know it's a lot more open-minded than it was 20 years ago so you know we're moving in the right direction thank God that's for sure so thanks you guys it was great having you on all right thank you yeah bye bye okay i just want to tell you before you go that my book it's called strictly anonymous confession secret sex lives of total strangers now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.
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