Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1210 - Alysse Started Swinging Together and had Threesomes and Moresomes and Now They’re Monogamous?
Episode Date: September 1, 2025Alysse and her new boyfriend met in the Lifestyle and now they’re monogamous and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how single men in the lifestyle treated... her as a single woman, how and why she then decided to try to be poly and how many guys she dated at the same time, how she met her new guy and how he was very “primal” the first time they hooked up and how she felt about it, the types of threesomes they have had and what she enjoys most about them, the foursome they had and how her new boyfriend felt when she hooked up with another guy, the threesome with a guy they had and exactly what went down, why they decided to now only play with each other, how and why they still go to swinger clubs and sex parties and what she does while she’s there now, the gangbang she setup with her friend at the club, how and why she decided to create content with her guy and what they enjoy about it. Links to everything Alysse: https://linktr.ee/starprincess83 : **To see HOT pics of ALYSE plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://vb.health To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly For 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER, use code: STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep https://butterwellness.com/ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website: http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Okay, today I'm on Elise.
And Elise has like a part two to her story.
She had called in before she was a single girl, unicorn playing in a lifestyle into BDSM, to live in her life, going to Swingers Club.
She loved interracial hotel takeovers.
And then she wrote me recently and said she had an update.
She's with a guy.
and they're still in the lifestyle and that's what we talk about.
This was a guy that she was dating when she was in the lifestyle and she was dating a lot of
different guys when she was single.
She met him like three years ago.
So we talk about like how she first met him and when she first fucked him and how their
sex was and, you know, she brought him to a hotel take over one of the interracial ones.
And then she talks about how he got into another relationship and how she got him out of that to date her.
And then she talks about how they became, how they decided to be non-monogamous.
and they were still going to swinger clubs and hotel takeovers together and like fucking other people.
You know, they had some threesomes and some swaps and all that kind of stuff.
But they got to a place, which I think is super interesting, where they just kind of like to be together.
And they're more wired to be monogamous.
And they don't really have a desire to be with anybody else.
But they still love going to the clubs.
She loves the atmosphere.
And I think it's like a super interesting angle, you know.
And her journey to me is very interesting because she's kind of.
been there, done that, but she's much happier where she is now, which is like being monogamous
with the guy, but she still likes to go to the clubs because she likes the atmosphere and all that
stuff. And she really likes to help people. She talks about that, like she sets up gangbanks for people
at the clubs and stuff. So they still go. And like I said, this whole journey is like super
interesting. She's great. I really like her. Her and her guy create content because she's a very
much an exhibitionist, and she likes for people to see her fuck and her and her guys fuck a lot.
and they haven't only fans.
The link will be in the description.
But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Elise.
Hey, Elise, welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
I am doing great.
How are you?
Good.
Listen, Elise, you were on before.
You were like a solo chick wandering around in the lifestyle, having fun.
You were into BDSM.
you were really into interracial hotel takeovers.
I remember that, okay, the whole interracial thing.
But you were single at the time, and I always give single women credit, you know,
who go into the lifestyle alone, right?
I mean, listen, you are the prize possession, right, the unicorn, quote, unquote.
So it's not like, you know, you're not going to get hit on and have action.
But I think it's ballsy to go into that world alone and fulfill all your sexual fantasies
and all that good stuff.
But like what you're here to say today is like you met a guy.
and you are in a relationship now, and you and the guy are now in the lifestyle together, correct?
That is correct.
Yeah, so I got to hear that story because you had like a, I mean, remind me about your history.
Didn't you come from like a marriage and all that kind of stuff, like a past?
Yes.
Right?
Okay, remind me.
Give a little backstory and then we'll work up to when you met this guy.
Okay, perfect.
So I was in a monogamous relationship all my life.
I was married.
I was with my ex-husband for 12 years, married 10, three kids.
And then one day, he just told me he wanted to divorce.
So I kind of stumbled upon the lifestyle after my divorce when I was learning to date or trying to date and found out everyone just wants to have sex.
that is all they want
even on the vanilla
sites you're talking about
oh 100%
they play a game of
oh yeah I want to date
and then they have sex
and then they move on
to the next one
and so I kind of
instead realized
you know what
maybe I just start with
hey let's find people
who like to have sex
and then see if I actually like these people
oh I like that
because you're like everyone's doing that
anyway why don't I do that too
but it's going to be your goal,
not like it's not like you're going to be twisted that way,
kind of like everybody else, right?
Like you're going to take control of the narrative.
That part,
because it's important that people don't,
you don't let people manipulate you
because I feel like that is a lot of what goes on
with relationships and dating
and even in the lifestyle I've learned.
Mm-hmm.
And I actually met this guy,
almost like three and a half years ago online.
Okay.
He's been one of my very best friends in the lifestyle for the past several years.
And he has also had been a play partner of mine.
I have had friends who I've kind of just had his friends, had his play partners, etc.
But not been in a good relationship because it seems like people didn't like titles.
in the lifestyle.
They don't want to be in a relationship.
And as a single woman, that makes you kind of feel,
oh, I'm not good enough.
Interesting.
But was that coming from the other single men in the?
Yes.
Okay.
So that's what you found from the single men.
Obviously not from the couples, right?
Because they're obviously not looking.
But you're saying the single men in the lifestyle,
for sure we're not looking to be in a quote unquote relationship,
even if it was open.
Correct.
even though, but they would want the benefits that go along with a relationship.
Like what?
Oh, I don't want you to sleep with anyone else.
I'm sure you can bring all of your girlfriends over.
Are you kidding?
No, I don't make this stuff up.
I'm sure you've heard that.
Yeah, not really, no.
Listen, I've heard from a lot of unicorns and a lot of times, you know, people think that
they kind of have it made.
Because like I said, you do walk around the club.
You're a single woman.
You are like top of the mountain, right?
I mean, as a single guy, you're like lowest on the totem pole.
They get a bad rap in certain ways.
But like unicorns, though, do have, you know, there are negative things that go with being a unicorn.
What I've heard is it's, you know, the treatment from the couples.
People, you know, actually treat you like an afterthought.
There is, you know, they have like each other, but you have nobody.
I didn't, I never heard, though, about the treatment from single men towards single woman.
I think that's super interesting, though.
yes it's it is very interesting because often it's oh well now you're mine and they treat you like a
possession and don't want to share but don't feel that they should have to hold out if that makes sense
you know because it's not a two-way street yeah how does somebody say that with a straight face
I mean are they honest about it or do they kind of say that in weird ways because like how do you
say to somebody like, hey, listen, we're in this fucking club and everyone's fucking everybody.
And I'm going to fuck whoever I want.
But you could only fuck me.
It's so hypocritical, you know.
Very hypocritical.
And that's what I dealt with a lot when I was single in a lifestyle.
That's interesting.
So it was like more than one guy kind of treated you that way.
Yes.
And for the longest time, I just classified myself as polyamorous.
because I'm like, you know what, I do like relationships.
I do like connection, but no one wants to focus on a monogamous relationship.
So I was just like, you know what, I can love more than one person.
Right.
Because it sounds like you're basically like a real relationship person, right?
I agree with that statement.
And that's something where I tried that for so long and kept getting burned.
and then I kind of stop trying.
No, but I mean, that's why you would pick polyamory instead of saying, okay, I'm just going to be non-monogamous.
Because polyamory is like, okay, I'm still going to have relationships, but I'll have them with more than one person.
Like it's still relationship oriented because that's how you are wired.
And listen, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
I think being poly is hard, right?
But I could see why you as a relationship girl would think like, okay, I'm going to solve this problem by being Polly.
Instead of saying, oh, fuck it, I'm just going to fuck a million people and not have relationships with anyone, you're like, okay, I'll just keep fucking all these people and have relationships with all of them.
Yes.
That is exactly where my mindset was for a while.
And actually, the last time I talked to you, that was where my mindset was as well.
Yeah.
But I wasn't in a relationship.
Right.
And so, okay, let's talk a little bit about that.
Like, did you, did Polly Amory work for you during that time and while you were Polly?
So yes and no.
And the reason I say that is I feel like I definitely developed great relationships with people.
Yeah.
However, a lot of times if I wanted those relationships to move any further, like in my vanilla life as well as in the world of the lifestyle.
Yeah.
That didn't always work.
Right.
Because that's where confusion came.
And then as a woman, you ask questions like, hey, am I your girlfriend?
girlfriend and no man wants to hear that question.
Well, if a guy wants a girlfriend, they do, but you know, and some guys do, you know, but
maybe not the ones that are like playing around in a swingers club, you know, I don't know.
Maybe that wasn't the right of a pool to, you know, the pond to fish out of. I don't know.
Well, and that's 100% correct is finding your people, finding the people who have the same
likes and dislikes as you. And when it comes to being in a lifestyle event or being
a lifestyle club. Like, I am a big exhibitionist. Doesn't mean I want to go have sex with a whole bunch
of different people. I'd be okay with just one and then everybody just watches and it's fun. Yeah. Yeah,
no, I get that. Listen, I think that, you know, I totally get where you're coming from. I've heard
from a lot of poly people and a lot of times, you know, people start out that way and then it changes
over time. It sounds like, you know, you were thinking you're being Polly with these people,
but maybe they didn't see it as Polly. You know, they just saw it as like, oh, you're another
fuck buddy, right? Possibly. I mean, I know the people who I had in my specific circle, I feel like
they did, were on the same page, but they just didn't want to have any kind of label on things.
So I wasn't in a Polly relationship. I just called myself Solo Polly.
like I told them, hey, I'm not your typical swinger.
I'm not around to just go fuck a bunch of people.
Yeah.
I want to talk to them, build some type of connection, and move from there.
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strictly. In a poly relationship, I just called myself solo poly. Like I told them, hey, I'm not your
typical swinger. I'm not around to just go fuck a bunch of people. Yeah. I want to
talk to them, build some type of connection and move from there.
So how many guys were you dating at one time, like when we last spoke?
Or at your height of polyamory?
Five.
Okay.
Isn't that a lot of work?
I don't know.
You tell me, or was it like great having five guys?
I mean, it was a nice, it makes me sound kind of bad.
But, or at least to some people, I guess, you can't self-judge and you can't, everybody has their own opinion on it.
It was one of those things where I was still figuring everything out.
And some people didn't mind.
Some people were like, wait a minute, you're seeing him today?
What?
Oh, and some people didn't like that.
However, if they didn't, that's when I say, okay, well, you either take it or leave it because I'm not going to end my relationship or friendship with this person.
Right. And let me ask you this.
Did most of the, yeah, of course, but you were completely honest. Did most of those guys stay around because of that honesty or did some of them leave because of that honesty?
Like, what did you find when you just put it straight up like that to them?
They stayed?
Yeah. And I talked, I had this whole conversation with someone recently. It was like some player that was like, you know, kind of swindling people and wanting to keep like a whole stash of checks, but wasn't really being honest.
And I'm like, you know what? When I was younger, I fucked a lot of guys at the same time because I wasn't a relationship person.
And I was, and I don't know, they didn't have all these labels when I was younger.
And I definitely wasn't Polly because I didn't like these guys.
I like to do what I wanted.
And I would, I was so honest with all of them.
Like literally, I'd be like, yeah, I don't want to see you tonight because I'm going out to pick up somebody else.
But like if you're around tomorrow, I'll say, you know, and I have to say, like, it sounds like it would scare people away, like, that kind of honesty.
But it always kept them there because they knew where they stood.
And like, they were always like guys that, like, stayed my friends afterwards.
And people would be like, how do you keep those?
All together, like doing what you're doing.
Because I'm completely honest and I'm not fucking anybody over.
And when people have that kind of honesty and trust, like people will put up with stuff.
And it's not even that bad because they just know where they stand.
Exactly.
They aren't expecting something different.
And then if any expectation to change, then there becomes a hiccup.
And you have to kind of reevaluate and either evolve or cut out that person or, you know, that's something that people have to learn.
what they will or will not put up with.
Yeah, totally.
So this guy that you're seeing now was one of your guys.
Now, explain to me how you met him and how his relationship was set up
and the first time you guys like fucked in the club or whatever went down.
Okay, sure.
So I met him back in the days when KIC was very popular.
The online chatting app and we were in a KIC group together.
And you're divorced at this time.
correct? Yes. Okay. And the funny thing is for a long time he kept trying to meet me,
but I was kind of blowing him off because I was a little too busy. I had a full plate.
I was seeing other people and he still to this day will give me a hard time about that.
But I had talked to him about these interracial hotel parties that I was going to.
and so he came to one it was probably January maybe three years ago three and a half years ago
and we met but like we didn't fuck we just said oh hey how are you and I was super busy because
I helped out with the events like getting wristbands on people and kind of showing people around
and so I just kind of we met but we didn't like get into anything.
thing that first time.
Was he a black guy, by the way?
Because you're right, I know that right.
So he's a black guy.
You're like, hey, you know, I'm down for these interracial hotel takeovers.
You should come to one of them.
He had never been.
Was he in the lifestyle himself?
Because you said he had a partner.
So he had a partner last year.
At this time, he was freshly divorced.
Oh, okay.
So he was on the market.
But was he in the lifestyle then?
No, he was just kind of learning about it.
well as I was. But then fast forward a couple more months and we met and we're like, all right,
let's do this. And at a hotel party, they have open playrooms often. And so we found an open playroom
and I remember the first time that we had ever played, I had to stop him because he is a very
primal. Oh, a primal. Okay. Sorry. Very primal. Well, I mean that, yes.
very well in doubt as well.
However, very primal and I was like,
dude, be nice.
Oh.
Because he played very rough.
Uh-huh.
And at that time,
I had also been hanging with another guy
who was in this open playroom
and he was having sex with a different girl
on a different bed.
And so it was kind of an interesting situation
because afterwards my other friend came up to me and he's like, I didn't like that.
He fucked you too good.
He was jealous.
Oh my God.
I never heard of all this petty nonsense going down in swinger clubs.
It was hilarious because I'm like, what?
He's like, yeah, I don't know if I want you to have sex with him because he fucked you better than I fucked you.
And I had to hear it the whole weekend was that guy fucked you better than me.
Yeah, but let me ask you this, that whole primal fucking thing that went down and everything.
It was a little too rough.
But like how was the sex?
The sex was great.
Like I said, it was very primal though.
And it was a damn, you got to, I don't know if my body is going to be able to handle this.
But it was great.
And I mean, we kept in touch and he became a regular play partner of mine after that.
So that should say for saying for something, right?
Yeah, for sure.
And did he, was he able to tone it down and were you able to like, you know, become,
Was he able to be less primal?
Yes.
And that's part of him, though, is that, I mean, that's, I can't give his.
He is a very primal person.
And I have gotten to a point where I know that and I've found ways to relax my body to take it,
I guess, I should say.
Yeah.
Well, you weren't to BDSM last we spoke.
So, right?
I mean.
Exactly.
And that's another commonality that we have is.
That we both are into some of those things.
He's into more of the primal plate.
Explain what you mean by primal.
Like he wants to throw you around.
He's holding you down, pulling your hair, smacking you.
Like, what is primal?
All of those things.
Okay.
Yes.
Primal would be more animalistic.
Like, very just go to it and don't let up.
Not the gentle, sensual, sexy things.
But the, I am going to rip your clothes off and fuck the shit out of you until you can't walk.
Right.
Every time.
I mean, we definitely have a variety.
Right.
And that is something that it just depends on the mood, the vibe.
It varies.
Let's roll the dice today.
What are we expecting?
And I love that because we have a great sex life.
Our sexual chemistry is amazing.
Well, obviously, things have changed over time because, you know, we're talking three years ago.
You meet him.
You've got this primal thing going.
At some point, he meets another person.
partner. Does he wind up staying in that whole scene with you in the lifestyle now that he's involved?
So interesting how this works is that we had been friends for a very long time and we were often seen together, but we had never like, we didn't go to parties together, if that makes sense.
I guess.
And he went as a single guy. I went as a single female.
And then he did meet a girl who they ended up deciding they wanted to be in a relationship in the lifestyle.
Okay, so wait.
So he has, how long does he date her for before he's like single again on the market?
For a year.
Okay.
And in that year, did you fuck him ever by himself?
Yes.
Okay.
And was it like, was it out of swing?
Oh, every week.
Okay.
Did he come without his girl to the swinger parties or hotel takeovers?
Like where was that going down?
Sometimes he would be with her.
Sometimes you wouldn't because she lived, it was a long distance relationship.
Okay.
And was it always at these hotel takeovers?
Is that where you guys always saw each other?
We saw each other there, but also he was a regular play partner of mine who lived an hour away
and he would come over every Monday.
Okay.
So you'd fuck him a lot during that time.
And then when he broke up, did you like cop to the fact that you liked him and then you guys
started dating?
So it's a little deeper than that, actually.
Now I feel awful.
So more of we talked about it and while they were still dating and we're like we just started having more feelings about each other.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
He cheated on her with, like you, you started to tell him that you liked him while he was still with her and he wound up leaving her for you.
That sounds awful.
Yeah, but is it the truth?
It's okay.
Awful things.
I like, listen, I don't judge people for.
stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? How long you've been dating the guy for?
Me particularly. Yeah, right now. Since September. Okay. So almost a year, right?
Approaching that, yes. Yeah, okay. I mean, they were in an open relationship. It wasn't Polly, though, right? I mean, was she pissed when she found out?
A little, yeah. Yeah, of course. Right. upset. Right. So you throw it on in one day that you actually really like him and he's like, oh, I really like you. Or, uh, or we both kind of threw it on each other.
It was a conversation that I explained.
I was pursuing relationships.
And then the conversation was, well, what about me?
And then we went down a rabbit hole.
Uh-huh.
And so then he wound up leaving his girl for you.
Yes.
Okay.
And so now when you guys get into a relationship,
is he like down to share you with others and everything?
Like, what is your relationship with him going to
be like it's obviously non-monogamous correct correct we have been very open about our relationship
and that we have had some threesomes a few with other girls and then a couple with another guy as well
and each time we have explored anything we have made sure to sit and discuss things we have talked about
our feelings about, hey, I liked this, I didn't like this, and revisited it all just to make sure
that we're comfortable because that's our number one priority is that we don't screw up what we have.
Yeah, and like, listen, I mean, he was in a relationship in the lifestyle, so, you know, maybe he had,
it was a little bit more used to it, but you were always like a single person in the lifestyle, right?
So I think it's a totally different thing, you know, navigating it with somebody else, right?
Yes, very much.
Yeah.
And listen, you're smart enough to know that it takes a lot of communication.
And it's great that he was like right there with you ready to talk about it.
So when you guys decided to get together, like, did you have these threesomes at the clubs?
Or did you like go on apps now, like as a couple looking for people to play with?
Like how did you guys start meeting people to bring into your relationship?
So we started with basically saying we weren't really playing with other people and we would just go to a party or an event and then a lot of times would be more exhibitionists.
And at times if we wanted to bring someone else in, we'd just ask.
And every situation has been with someone we already know that we have already been partners with at some point in time.
Yeah, that's easy, right?
It's good because you're professionals.
You've been in a lifestyle for a while, so you know women, right?
He does too.
So if you guys want a threesome, you can bring someone.
It's not so hard for you.
I think that that's great.
You're lucky, right?
Because a lot of other couples have to go on apps and they're starting fresh and they
have to meet people and people that are fucking flakes.
But because you're in the lifestyle, you know a lot of women and men that you can have
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I think that that's great. You're lucky, right? Because a lot of other couples have to go on apps
and they're starting fresh and they have to meet people and people are fucking flakes. But because
you're in the lifestyle, you know a lot of women and men that you can have threesome's with.
Yes. Yeah, that's great. And we can reach out to them and that's exactly what we would, we have done is just talk to the people who we already know and say, hey, are you comfortable with this person? Yeah. And then bring them in if we want and go from there. Right. And so now do you enjoy like when you're having a threesome with another women, first of all, remind me, do you like women? Are you into women as well?
I am by situational, I'll say.
I'm not going to go out and pursue a woman,
but I think that women are beautiful.
I like to kiss women.
I like to touch women.
I'm a little weird about going down on a woman,
but I have done it before.
It's just not, I'm not the most comfortable with it.
Okay.
But I'll do it.
If the time is right.
Right.
Because if you're in the mood or you're attracted to the woman
or you're like just into it at that moment.
Is that like the difference between who you'll go down on and who you own?
Or is it like the type of pussy she has?
Listen, I just did a whole pussy pick contest on my discord.
And I can't believe how, you know, they come in all different shapes and sizes.
So I just was like wondering, you know, what's the, what determines whether you will be
into going down or not?
Is it the comfort level?
Yeah.
Yes.
100%.
Uh-huh.
It's like the people who I have done that with are normally people who I'm
friends with that I'm like okay I'm comfortable enough I've been around you I've seen you enough and
we feel like we know this isn't going to make me feel any kind of weird way about you or be like
oh my god can you believe no it's all about the comfort level right okay now do you like seeing
your guy like fuck another girl like does that turn you on that's a great question I I like to see him
turned on. So if he is enjoying himself and he's lost in it and loving it, then yeah, I'll go
with that. But if it's something where he's not enjoying himself, I'll be like, all right, well,
why are you doing it? Right. But isn't your, okay, but let's talk about the hot times you have.
Okay. Obviously, if someone looks like it's painful for them to fuck someone because they're like,
and have their beer goggles on, it's not going to be hot. But like if you guys are having like a
threesome with someone good and you're having a good threesome like you are turned on because he's turned on
is that what you're saying yes you know that I mean that's listen and that's typically what it's all about
that whole kink right a lot a lot of times when guys are saying that they love to see their girls fuck
somebody else and that's why sometimes it's even if the guy has a bigger dick they like it even more
because their girl is even in more pleasure and that's what they want they want to see their partner
being pleasured right so for you it is a turn on to see your partner pleasured yes okay
I'll agree with that.
Yeah.
Does he like to see you with guys?
Does he have that kink that a lot of guys like to share their girls?
Because, you know, you had a lot of these other guys that didn't want to share you.
This guy does.
Is he into it?
To be honest, that's something we're still exploring.
And I don't feel like does.
So what do you mean exploring?
Like I said, we have tried a few situations with other guys, one of which he just left the room.
Oh, so explain.
Explain what went down that time.
Was it someone that he knew and brought in,
or was it someone that you had fucked before and brought in?
I had known him,
and we were at a party that there was a girl who we had both known
and a guy who we had both known,
and so it ended up being a foursome.
Oh, okay.
So it's like a full swap.
They weren't a couple.
They were both singles.
Oh, okay, okay, right.
And so he was playing with the other girl,
and I was playing with the other guy.
However, we were still navigating and learning our cues against each other to know, hey, you want attention or you don't like that.
And I just wasn't picking up on it because I was focusing on this other guy while he was focusing on the girl.
And then he left.
And I was like, wait a minute.
Something's not right.
Yeah.
And what happened when you guys talked?
We just discussed the mindset.
that like there are at an event where everybody's playing,
sometimes people just have to turn off their feelings
and because they might feel some kind of way.
However, that is not something I want to do.
So I kind of backed away from trying to pursue another male in a situation.
Well, it's his feelings that he has to tell you weren't having bad feelings about it.
you were having such good feelings about it that you ignored him.
It was he was having the bad feelings, right?
And you're saying you didn't want him to have to turn them off.
I don't understand when you say.
Correct.
Right.
Yes, because then if his feelings are turned off and I want any affection, then I'm talking
to a wall.
Yeah, no.
Listen, I don't think that, I think feelings are feelings.
And a lot of people don't feel bad about seeing their partner with someone else.
They feel fucking happy.
You know what I mean?
But if you feel bad, you shouldn't fucking do it.
I don't think that the people that don't feel bad,
are turning their feelings off.
And if they are,
those are the ones that wind up being,
you know,
getting into trouble because I don't think it's like healthy to turn off your feelings.
That's exactly what I believe.
Yeah.
And so we discussed that and discussed,
you know,
that any time you start feeling some sort of way,
we just made kind of a little clue of,
hey,
we have to say this.
And that means let's take a break.
Let's go into the restroom.
Let's say, hey, I need to go pee or whatever.
and go talk about it and say this made me feel some sort of way or I don't like the way this is going.
Well, what did he say, though, in that specific case? Let's talk more specific. Like that situation,
he walks out and he just said, I just didn't like seeing you with the other guy. Did he use the word jealous?
Like, what did he say? More of he just felt like he wasn't needed in the situation.
Oh, he didn't feel like you were paying enough attention to him.
Correct. Okay. Have you guys tried a.
female three somewhere like the two guys are servicing you and you're like the center of attention
and you know playing with both men so you're not someplace else and okay so walk me through one of those
with him so that's we did that one time it was very I want to say it was short-lived and it was
only lasted like 10 minutes or something oh my god why are they I can't wait for some good stories
but tell but these are actually very important stories because they're learning lessons for
people. You know what I mean? Because this is like typical stuff that could happen in the lifestyle like,
you know, with a clip of a coin, you know, like a lot of people have feelings and they won't,
they might be jealous. I mean, that shit comes up. It's normal. And like I said, a lot of people aren't,
you know, and that's the case. But a lot of people are. Right. So that particular situation,
we had several people over at our place. And there were three girls, including me and two guys.
Okay.
And I think we were playing a game or something.
And then he and I decided, hey, let's get naked.
And we just kind of started it off by being naked.
And then we started just kind of putting on a show for everyone and had a lot of fun with all of us.
And then I remember we were all on the couch.
And I was kissing on a girl and he was kissing on me.
and there was another couple that were playing.
And it was just kind of a lot of sexual energy going around.
Right.
So this sounds all hot.
This all sounds hot at this point, right?
I mean, we know the story goes south.
But at this point, it sounds like it's going good.
Well, this story didn't go south.
Oh, this is a good one?
Oh, this is a good one.
Oh, okay.
I'm sorry.
I thought you were walking me through the bad one.
Okay, sorry.
So then, like, the other couple kind of finished.
And then everybody just kind of got to a point where we just took a break.
and the two girls decided it was time for them to leave.
And so that left me with my boyfriend and this other guy.
And we're just kind of hanging out like, oh, wait, what do we do now?
I'm like, this could be kind of hot.
And so then we proceeded to, we had to put our clothes back on, but we took them back off and got on the couch.
and I remember I was
sucking my boyfriend's dick
and then the other guy
was fucking me from behind
but like I said it didn't really
last that long
and he finished and then
he went home
oh that was it
all right but it was like a hot night
but the time at the point where you have like a guy
and your guy and another guy
it went quick because the guy came so fast
but it wasn't correct right
but how did your guy feel about that
scenario. So after that one, we didn't have any situations that seemed like we didn't sit and
talk about how odd it was. We were just like, okay, well, we talked about all of us being there and
the pros and the cons and how we just liked to start things and initiate things and be sexy
with our friends. How was it for you though? Like was it hot? Like fucking another guy with your guy
there? I did enjoy it. Yes. Like I said,
It didn't last a whole long time, but yeah, it was definitely enjoyable.
You've had three sons with guys before, correct?
Two guys at one time?
Yes.
I'm assuming, right?
You've done that, been there, done that.
So it's a different, but like, you know, now that you have your guy, it's like a totally
different thing.
It definitely is.
Right.
So I'm wondering, is it better?
Yeah.
Is it better with your guy?
Is it more complicated, like you said, so you have to think a little bit more.
I feel like I'm still learning about that because we don't do that often because after each situation,
we've come to the conclusion that we enjoy each other better than other people.
So it's hard for me to answer that.
Yeah, well, you're still in the honeymoon.
Like you're only together what for like a year?
Less than that, but yeah.
Less than a year.
Yeah, not even a year.
Yeah, you know, I've heard from a lot of couples who like, and even people who are very like non-monogamous.
and have been really open previously.
But when they meet someone that they really like,
they take a little time to just be with that one person
because it's so great.
Like they just don't have that desire, right?
Or that need.
But eventually because of the way you guys are wired,
most likely you'll start looking to be probably with more people,
you know, as time goes on.
But maybe like right now you're still getting so much for each other.
Like why get other people?
I get that.
Well, and it's something where to be honest,
I see exactly what you mean, but I also feel like it's, we are growing because we've always,
we've always been in the situation where we've been around other people and playing with other
people. And we realize that we're getting everything we need, we got then just from each other.
Yeah.
So we like the atmosphere. We like the social aspect. But when it comes to the sex, we have great enough
sex without involving other people. We don't, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
been starting to make content together, which is something I had done before, but I hadn't had a
regular partner to do that. And so we make some pretty hot content. And we've talked about just,
hey, we can just make content and use this and talk about things because we also just sit and
talk about the session afterwards. We talk about all kinds of things sexy and raunchy and
fun. Because you, listen, you guys are.
are very open sexual people and you're having really hot sex together.
And you, I know you're an exhibitionist.
Is he also an exhibitionist?
Like he gets off on people seeing him?
Is that what the contents about?
Or is that a big thing for you?
It's a big thing for me.
And I feel like he is exploring that.
And he's liking it a little bit.
There is, like, it hasn't always been a thing for him.
But he, I think, is kind of going with it to see what he does.
like and what he doesn't. And when we're on
like recording, he enjoys that. We've been
at a few clubs where there have been
times he's like, okay, that was weird.
Because people will watch and sometimes
the people who watch at a club are a little bit creepy.
Right. Oh, you mean you're, you could tape in a club?
No, no, no. Like if in a club
Oh, when you're just being exhibitionist. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Had someone
told me a story the other day and it was kind of funny because
I was like, oh, was it hot when people were watching? Because she's like, I love when
people watch her. The first time she did it, she said, no, it wasn't because, and it was funny
because it was a man and a woman, right? And she was like, because there was all these guys,
like, moaning. And she said it was just so gross for her to hear it. But yet her guy said it was
like the fucking hottest thing to him. It was so funny. You know, because they're, listen,
they're both wire different. For him to hear guys like jerking off there watching them,
fuck was such a turn on to him. But for her, it ruined it, you know, because it was so gross.
It's like, you know, and therein lies the difference between those two people.
And, you know, both things could happen the same time.
Everyone's turned on and turned off by different things.
So he doesn't like having people watch as much as you.
Or he notices a little stuff a little bit more, maybe.
That, that second part, where just noticing the creepy guy who's walking around, jerking off while he watches other people.
Because sometimes, you know, you look at people and.
And there are people who are fun to watch.
There are sometimes you look at someone and you're like, okay, please put it away.
Please, please don't, just spare me.
Yeah.
You mean the guys on the side, right?
But you're an exhibition.
So you're like in the kind of, is, do you think that you are like more so a non-monogamous
person, but you just happen to, like you said, maybe like you will wind up.
And do you think you could wind up non-monogamous with this guy?
but maybe still go to these clubs and everything,
but just do stuff together,
or do you think you're wired that way
that you could be monogamous to just one person?
I feel like, and this has been a conversation we've had,
that he and I both are wired that we are more monogamous.
That's how I grew up.
That's how he grew.
That's kind of our thoughts,
and we learned about the lifestyle
and met each other in the lifestyle,
but our, to our core, I feel like both of us are more monogamous.
Yeah, I think that's what I meant.
Was I saying non-monogamous?
You had it backwards.
Yeah, but I had, but I, you know what I meant.
I meant like, do you think maybe you're actually wired to be monogamous, right?
That's what I meant.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, it sounds like that.
But listen, just because you're, you know, a more monogamous person doesn't mean that,
you know, you couldn't enjoy the lifestyle while you're single, right?
but maybe when you're in a relationship and you really care about someone, you just want to be monogamous to them.
But you do see yourself maybe always going to these clubs and these hotel takeovers and having fun, but maybe not playing with other people.
Have you shut that down?
We have definitely discussed that because that's kind of where we are.
Yeah.
We enjoy going because we like meeting the people.
We like the sexual energy.
We like the open-mindedness.
Yeah.
And both of us are very good at health.
helping other people talk through the obstacles they come up with, which is I have a friend of
mine who she likes to call me her sex concierge.
At parties, she'll tell me what she wants to do and I help her make it happen.
Oh, that's kind of fun.
So, like, you can still go and have fun.
So, like, give me an example of, like, what's gone down with that girl at a party.
Okay.
So actually, her husband came to me and said that.
she wanted a gang bang.
Okay.
I like this.
And so, yes.
So I had talked to several guy friends who I knew because it was a party where I often was.
So I know a lot of these people.
And I was just like, all right, dang bang, seven o'clock at this room, be here.
Right.
And so I show up.
I think I only had like four guys.
I had more, but then time was running late anyway.
Yeah, whatever.
We go in and she was just like, oh, my God, she was very excited because I walk in these four very beautiful black men and she's just like, oh, my God.
And this woman, I love her to death.
She can squirt on command.
Oh, my God.
And so, like, immediately is like squirting.
And then these guys did not know what was coming because I.
I remember the first guy went, had a great time.
The second guy, like she was sitting in a chair,
and then she started squirting and squirted like all the way up to her own face.
Oh, my goodness.
It was pretty intense.
I had never, I've never met a person quite like her, and I love her to death.
And I'm always like, all right, watch out.
Yeah, oh my God.
I mean, was that your way of wrangling people?
You were like guaranteed a squirt?
I didn't even.
I don't think I even warned them.
Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious.
Well, you still got them there, you know, but I mean, you might have gotten five more guys if you led with that.
You're right, but it was great.
And I know afterwards, like, the husband was like, that was perfect.
I loved it.
And I just often would help them get situations set up.
Oh, my God.
That's kind of fun.
And so, like, so people just come to you in the middle of a club and, like, ask you for advice because you're just, like, chatting with them.
and stuff, like tell me other things that you've done.
So another thing, like, just like what you said, a lot of times I will be very talkative
with people at an event or at a club.
I'll go introduce myself.
If I see someone sitting over in a corner by themselves, I know they don't know anybody or
they don't know how to talk to somebody.
And that's just kind of my personality.
I have a very bubbly personality.
And so I'll just go up to somebody, be like, hey, what are you doing?
Yeah.
Have you been to a party before?
And a lot of times it might be their first event or they might have said, oh, somebody told me about this.
And I've never heard of a lifestyle.
I don't know what this is.
And oftentimes people will be very confused and think, oh, a lifestyle party means everybody's fucking.
And they don't understand the etiquette where I feel like I'm good at I step in and kind of teach them a little bit.
I talk to them about, hey, this is what you should do.
this is how you should approach a person or don't you dare just go up and touch a person like that is something you see a lot at lifestyle clubs or at a hotel takeover is you will see people who don't understand etiquette at all yeah and so they should be required to take an etiquette course
well you know what listen i just don't understand why like there's not more stuff like inside the club to let people know because i've done episodes just on especially with this one girl missy
vendor, I'm taping her again this week.
She's done a whole like Swinger 101.
Like this is what you should do, what you shouldn't do.
These are the rules.
But they're all so unspoken that I was like, wow, like this is so informative and this is
information that you would have, like most people wouldn't know.
And it's not taught to you.
You know, and I do know there are some clubs that will be like, hey, this is like the
way that it is or they'll have rules posted.
But where are people going to get educated?
You know what I mean?
Like they should listen to those episodes, you know, like that I have.
Because there are a lot of unspoken rules.
And, you know, how else are people going to find that information?
It's not like it's on the club posted.
And I love that you said that because that is something I have noticed.
And that's why I have a lot of times promoted, hey, I will help you.
I will talk to you about this.
No, it doesn't mean I want to fuck you.
Because some people mistake kindness with a desire.
Oh, you want me. No, I don't want you. I just want to explain. Everybody has their place,
but there are ways to go about it and walking up to someone saying, can I fuck you? It is not always
the way to do that. Well, how do you approach somebody if you do want to hook up with them and you
need consents? I mean, you got to ask, right? Definitely, always asking. And it honestly depends on
is a single or a couple. That's like your first thing is, hey, are you a part of a couple?
if you are, you want to make sure that both parties are aware.
That is a big thing with me.
And the reason I even dabbled in the lifestyle is because I am so big on the honesty and open-mindedness of it.
So first, going and saying, hey, couple are single, and then saying, hey, I'm interested.
Or I would like to get to know you better.
Or what is your dynamic?
What are you looking for?
You ask those questions, which is why things like speed dating, that is.
is awesome and should always be offered at any kind of party because it's a great way to say,
hey, are we a match like a quick match?
Then we could go deeper and see if this could lead to something more.
Right.
And they have that at Swingers Clubs is what you're saying.
They do speed dating sometimes.
Some of them have been doing it, not all of them.
I went to an event that had a speed dating class and I have talked to people who do parties about,
hey, I would even do the class on speed dating if they let me.
Yeah, what a fun thing for you to transition to, you know, because you kind of like,
now you finally have your relationship.
Like, that's what you wanted.
You don't really, you know, you don't want to be using the lifestyle to find multiple
partners, right?
Because you kind of just want to be with your guy.
But what a great thing to do now while you remain there to like educate people and work
and do that stuff. I mean, that's what you were doing in the beginning. You said like when you met
this guy so many years ago, you're working the door and stuff. So you have that in you, right? Like that
part of you that likes to work the event, teach the people at the event, you know, you like that position.
That is 100% what I like. Yeah. Yeah. I love that because it's kind of ingrained in me just to help
people understand because people think so differently. We're all wired differently and it's important that
you try to figure out how those people learn. Because if
They learn by watching porn and they come into a swingers party, we're all fucked.
They're going to think they can all just go wherever they want, whenever they want.
They're not going to think about, oh, I need to put on a condom.
What?
So it's important to have people that have that mindset.
We like to talk about, hey, this happened at an event and this is how we felt.
Right.
And talk about how to maneuver it and how to maneuver it correctly and how not to hold a grudge.
about something because it's something
a person might not have known.
Right. So do you guys still go
to clubs together
and you're just like in these roles where you said
like you kind of like, you know, helping
at the event and you guys maybe sometimes have sex
and people can watch you, but you're not playing,
right? That's where you're at. Yes. And now
speaking of porn, because you just mentioned it,
you and your guy are creating content. Like, what
kind of things do you guys do
you know, on tape?
So often
we just film each other.
going at it. I like, I love to give oral. We take a lot, we do a lot of film of me giving
them head and just, I like to put on sexy lingerie and set the mood and make our own little
porn. We've even had times where we're just goofy and we'll sit on and talk. Like, we'll go
live on only fans sometimes and just, we went on and talked about Christmas movies once and
just silly stuff like that. Right. So it's like behind the scenes. Yeah.
And we've gone on before and talked about just like almost the bloopers of things.
We recorded content once and like I quiffed.
And I'm like, oh my God, did I just quiff?
And then I'd turn over and I quiff again.
And we start talking about how funny it was because we just like were filming and I'm just dying laughing.
And people who are watching it are going, okay, that's not fake.
That actually happened.
Right.
And I find that enlightening because people will know, hey, they're not just putting.
on a show for me. They are putting on a show, but that's actually how their life is.
Right. And so if you're having an orgasm, they'd be like, oh, that's probably real too.
Like, that girl's really having an orgasm. She's really enjoying that blow job that she's giving
him or whatever. There's no faking. It's not overly produced. That part. We are more, I mean,
it's total amateur, but it's fun. And that's what we like to do is just have fun. Right.
I had, we filmed something over the summer. And I posted it without editing,
or anything. And I had like fallen off the bed. And so you basically are just seeing like my foot and you're
hearing all the noise. And we posted it and I had a friend of mine send me a message and he's like,
only you could make a porn or you fall out of it, but it's still hot as fuck. And I came like three
times. It's because they were imagining it. You know what I mean? But sometimes it's like what you can't
see, but you could hear, you know, there's a lot of guys that are into that shit.
Yes, it was just funny because he's like, only you would fall out.
Yeah, yeah.
But actually be smart enough to still post it because maybe you know that some guys might be into it.
Right.
No, seriously, because now they're just imagining and they're hearing it.
You know how many guys I have, like, have their girls go play solo and they just, like, call up on the phone?
And just, like, hearing the sex noises but not seeing it is like a turn on.
You could even do audio on there, right?
Like, because, like, people do have, like, they are kind of into that, you know?
And your guy likes, your guy likes creating the content too as well.
Is your faces in the content or are you like anonymous?
Our faces are in the content.
Wow.
That's kind of ball.
Well, I feel like eye contact is, it's hot.
Right.
But is this like, do you guys have like a secret life?
Like would you not mind like your vanilla friends knowing that you're doing only fans?
Is it like normal nowadays for people your age to do it anyway?
Does anyone care?
I don't know.
Well, that's a great question.
It's something that I feel is evolving in society.
But I know that I'm sure when if my family finds out, which I'm sure they will someday, they'll be like, what the fuck?
Right.
But then I go, hey, are you paying my bills?
Right.
Well, do they know that you're in vault?
Like, does anyone know about, like, your, like, swinger side of you?
Like, does anyone know that you're in the lifestyle to begin with in your vanilla life?
I have a couple of my friends who do, but not my family.
Actually, that's a lie.
I might have a cousin who knows about.
I mean, listen, most people don't tell their family about their sex life anyway.
And, like, unless somebody that you know, like, that your family knows that subscribes to your only fans, like, maybe your family will never find out.
Like, why should they find out?
You know what I mean?
It's very private.
I mean, Only fans is like, you know, people could only see that stuff.
It's like behind a paywall.
So I think it's correct.
Yeah, I think it's harder to, for people to find out, you know, via OnlyFans, you know.
So I think that's why some people probably like you are more apt to put their faces on there as opposed to if it was like something on Pornhub or something, you know, because anyone can be across that.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's a little bit more lockdown, you know.
Listen, you're never safe.
I think like with only fans like there was a teacher she runs a hot wave podcast she uh got busted
because someone found out it was her and she got fired from her job they told on her and i'm just like
i would think on there like even if she didn't have her face on but i think like if you have the
background of your house and people have been there they might know like oh that's my friend's house
you know whatever but you got to like you got to have the mindset that you do in that like okay
if they did find out you know i don't really care at the end of the end of the end of the
end of the day. And, you know, obviously, if you didn't feel that way, you wouldn't be doing it.
So you guys are like not fucking other people. Do you, so your content is just strictly you and
him together, right? Like no threesomes or anything. Are you fucking anyone else? It's you and him
fucking on your only fans, right? Correct. There have been a few things that I have put up that
were older things where there are other people. There was, I think, one that did have a third person
involved in it.
Uh-huh.
But it's mainly just he and I.
What is your only fans?
It's Star Elise, so S-T-A-R-A-L-Y-S-E.
Okay, cool.
And now you do have a podcast.
You haven't aired an episode since December, so I was kind of like, oh, my God, you
don't really have a podcast, but you have a podcast.
Maybe you'll air one before this episode airs.
If you want to give a shout out to your podcast, it's called Teach Me to Swing, right?
It's not on Apple.
You can only find it on where, Spotify?
On Spotify, which I will work as we are rebranding.
As we are rebranding, I'll work on getting it on Apple as well.
So teach me to swing is up there.
I'm assuming there's some episodes there that people want to hear already.
That's on Spotify.
But you're eventually going to be doing it with him, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
So you're in a much better place since we last spoke because, you know, you got your guy.
And that's what you kind of wanted.
And you had fun in the meantime.
time. Like you kind of probably lived out a lot of your sexual fantasies, checked off a lot of things on your bucket list, right? Had some...
Oh, he checks my boxes all the time. No, I'm talking about you checked a lot of your boxes before him. I mean, you were like living in the lifestyle doing all this shit, right? Got it all out of your system. So like you had a lot of fun. I'm saying before you met him. Yes. And I have a lot of fun with him as well. You well, you obviously have more fun with him. You're so more this kind of person and suited for this.
this. I'm just saying you did have a time where you got to live out all this crazy stuff. But now,
to me, you sound like you're where you wanted to be this whole time, which is with somebody.
I just think, you know, if you had to have a period of like waiting for that guy, you know,
why not have a bunch of threasons and all this stuff you had? You did kind of live it up.
And it had a lot of interesting experiences. So not a bad time. And you wound up with the guy and the guy
that you really like. So I think that that's great. Yeah, we all have our ho-phases, right?
I think so, yeah, why not?
Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I love it. Like I said, in the beginning,
like I give anyone credit, especially a single woman who has the balls to kind of say,
hey, I'm going to get into the lifestyle by myself and go in there and do it and experience all the things that you did and try all the things that you did.
You know, I think that that's an interesting little path you took there for a while, you know,
and you wound up back to like who you really are, which is a woman who is more monogamous and likes to be with one guy.
but if you start teaching these classes or working at a place or running a party,
then maybe all of that was so that you could be where you're at now.
You know what I'm saying?
I agree with that and I love that because that's where I feel comfortable.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so I think that it makes sense.
So congratulations, Elisa, I'm meeting your guy and being in a good relationship.
And thanks so much for calling in and sharing your update with me.
I love your story and your journey.
I think it's super interesting.
Thank you. Thanks, Elise. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called
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