Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1214 - Chris has been a White Bull for Couples for Many Years

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

⁠⁠⁠Chris has been a white bull for many years and he calls in to talk all about it. How did he become a bull? How long has he been one? And, where does he meet the couples he plays with and what... exactly does he do with them? Tune in to hear all the details which include how he accidentally wound up meeting the first couple he hooked up with and what he did with them, how he enjoys sleeping with the wife of a true cuck and what about that scenario turns him on the most, the rules and boundaries work for him and what he learned that helped him to develop them, the time he met with a wife who lied about her husband's involvement and how the husband found out, how he vets couples and what's important to him, his fave couple and what he does with them, his best and worst hook ups and what exactly went down, how his life as a bull is a secret, the type of woman he's looking to have a relationship with plus a whole lot more.  **To see pics of CHRIS plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:42 You could also learn about all the gangbangs and all the lifestyle events in your area, as well as read up on articles and learn about the lifestyle. For your free trial, go to sDC.com and use my code three. 7-7-1-2 or just go to the description and click on the link. Everything I talk about is in the description. So today I have on a white ball. Okay, I've had on some black bulls. I have on a white bull today. He has been doing it for a long time. He's been sleeping with couples for 14 years and he really likes being a bull, which is different than like my swinger couples or my cuck guys. you know, he's the opposite end of it, right?
Starting point is 00:03:22 He's the guy that the couple calls in so the cuck could watch him fuck the wife. And he loves being that dominant guy that's taking the other guy's wife. That's what he's into. His favorite scenario he talks about it is when he has a very true cuck who really wants him to talk all about how he's taken his wife. Okay. That's what it's about. This started when he was younger, kind of by accident.
Starting point is 00:03:46 But it progressed until like a, thing that he's just been doing, like I said, for the past 14 years. He's totally involved in the lifestyle. He's been with many, many couples. We talk about how it started, where he went to meet couples after to keep it going, what he looks for, the lessons he learned and the things he wasn't into, you know, he's been there, done that, and he learned a lot from his experiences. What kind of rules and boundaries he has? I ask him his worst situation or experience his best situation. He also, talks about where, like I think, I think he's where he meets his people and where he
Starting point is 00:04:23 advertises himself as a bull. He gives a shout out. If you want to hire him or, I don't know what it's called, you know, get him in on your couple action or hire, you know, get him to come in and bang your wife. He's a professional. I call him a professional.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Chris. Chris, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you this morning? Hey, excellent. How are you? Good.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So, Chris, you claim to be a white bull, right? Is that your deal? You're a white bull? Yes. What does that mean? Because I've had, like, does that mean, because I think that sometimes it's a little confusing, right? Because like a cuck, would a cuck be a white bull?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Or what's the white bull? You're like the third person that goes into a couple situation and screws them. Is that the deal? Yes. I mean, not them. It's just mainly the wife. Right. So I'm a lot of times talking to the cuck, and I've had a couple black bulls on.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Those are like very highly downloaded, but you're a white bull. So how did you become a white bull? Yeah, I guess I kind of fell into it or was an approach into it or whatever else. Tell your story. So when I was 21, I went to a strip boat with some friends for, I don't know, just like a fun night out, whatever. and it happened to be, I guess, like, some type of amateur night or couples night or whatever there. And so there was a lot of couples, husbands and wives there.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And towards the end of the night, like, you know, we had a good time, whatever else we didn't really talk to any of the couples. And then towards the end of the night, a couple of my friends went to the bathroom. I was kind of waiting, and this guy approached me and said, oh, you know, my wife thinks you're very good looking, do you have any interesting couples? and I had no idea what he was talking about. Like, I thought he actually meant, like, a double date with, like, a couple or something.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I was totally naive to the whole thing. Yeah, right. And then he kind of explained it to me, and, you know, I had a couple of drinks at that point, and I was like, yeah, yeah, what the hell? And so that was, like, the first introduction I had to it. And ever since then, it's just been something that, I guess, like, just triggered me and, like, it was just an awesome lifestyle. Yeah, but don't just go to there. So walk me through that scenario. So did you go home with that couple?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. So that night, like I said, you know, they approached me. I had a couple drinks. I had no idea what it was. And I went home with that couple that night. And that specific couple, the husband wasn't necessarily a cuck. He was more of a, I guess it's called the Stagg vixen. So he liked to join in, nothing, you know, bisexual, but he'd like to join in.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So we would both, you know, double team his wife or we would just all play together basically, but me and him would be involved together. Right. Okay. And now, did you see them on a regular basis after that or was it a one and done situation? No, it was actually a one and done situation, but that was like the gateway coupled into the life of this and what it blossomed into. And that was, like I said, about 14-ish years ago.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Mm-hmm. And then once, you know, that night came and went, I found myself, like, eagerly looking for the next couple. And, you know, way back then, it didn't have all this, you know, these apps and Reddit and everything else. It was honestly more of like you'd go out to these swinger clubs or strip clubs or, you know, Craigslist a little bit. And that's how I initially, you know, started to get. consistent couples. And I have to admit, like, I was very, I was not very picky in the beginning, let's put it that way. You were more into the scenario. It wasn't, you weren't so fixated on the people, you just,
Starting point is 00:08:22 the scenario was hot to you, you'd take what you could get. Yes. And I think I was so eager to have more experience with it. And like, you know, I guess, you know, in a sports term, like practice kind of, basically, that I wasn't necessarily filtering out, like, you know, personality and, you know, other things that now I have to have in order to, you know, be involved with a couple. Like I need to have more of a connection, I would say, now than when I initially started. Let me ask you this, because I'm going to, I'm interested in how that progressed, you know, and I want you to tell the whole story and, you know, pick up from when, you know, after this couple,
Starting point is 00:09:01 the next couple. But how old were you when this all started? when you say 14 years ago, how old were you at that time? I think I was about 21. And now were you in a relationship or were you a single guy? At that point, I was single. Okay, cool. All right, so you meet that couple.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You're like, oh, my God, I need to meet another one. You don't care who or what they look like or anything like that. Like, how do you meet the next couple and what goes down? Well, it wasn't so much, like, no, I mean, looks were definitely important. I wasn't, that wasn't necessarily a part of, you know, when I was letting anybody in. It was more about like the personality. Right. And like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And like I, I didn't filter their like relationship or marriage necessarily as good as I should have. Right. Interesting. Okay. But you learned, I guess over the, over time. Yeah. Well, I guess I made mistakes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. And learned, you know, like, you know, one of those is to make sure that both people know. you know, because I had an instance where I was talking to the wife and she said, yeah, yeah, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool. I never really talked to the husband or anything. And yeah, come to find out, you know, the husband didn't know and wasn't cool with it. You know, so then I...
Starting point is 00:10:21 So she was cheating and she pretended that she wasn't, yeah. But let's get back to the second couple. You go, where do you start? Because it's like 14 years ago, like you said, there's no apps, there's no online. stuff like there is. But there's a couple things. There's Craigslist. How did you go about meeting the second couple? Yeah. So after the initial couple, I would probably say it was a couple months before I, you know, found the next one because I wasn't really sure what to look or how to do it. Yeah. You know, I was, I was the one getting approached. Like, I wasn't doing the approaching. So that
Starting point is 00:10:50 was like a whole other thing. And then, so initially I was going out like to strip clubs and like these amateur nights and I was going to these I mean I guess you can call them I don't know if they're I guess they're sex clubs you know it was basically a regular club but they had like couple nights there you know and they have them all over you know depending on where you are you kind of have to look for them and so then I started to go to those places and that was you know much easier to meet them your face to face with them in person which was great there's a there was a lot of people there you know but I did find over the years that
Starting point is 00:11:27 you know the selection isn't always as good as you know, there is now because you can filter out so many different things now. Yeah. You couldn't really then. So my second couple was about three months after my first one. I went to a, it was just a regular club, but that night it was a couple's night or they have like a swingers night, basically. And so I went there and usually at these clubs, you know, the couples have to pay to get in,
Starting point is 00:11:52 but it's much cheaper. And then if you're a single male, the price is, you know, like much higher than if you were a single female, let's say. far. Yeah, so I did that. I went there, paid, went in, and, you know, just kind of felt everything out. And after that initial couple, I felt like naturally to be the aggressor. I felt like when I walked in, I just felt like so confident in approaching these couples now. And that's where I think the bull mentality came out more. And like, you know, my personality is very like outgoing. And, you know, charismatic and like I'm more, you know, dominant.
Starting point is 00:12:34 But in that initial situation with that couple, like I wasn't because I was so new to it. I didn't know it was even a thing. And then once I did, I kind of flipped back to, you know, my actual personality, which is more like a dominant, you know, bull type. And so I approached a couple in there that I saw, you know, talked to them. They, they were actually a first time couple swinger. so they had never been with another one before. And, you know, in talking to them, we had drinks, you know, connected.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You know, they were, you know, nervous, you know, which I can understand. And basically it got to the point where we all connected, we went home. Now, this one, he was more of a cuck. So he, we put him in the corner, basically, of the room while we played. And, you know, this couple, she'd like to talk to him while we were together. and, you know, tell him how everything felt and, you know, all that kind of stuff. And so that one really, I think, unleashed my inner, you know, bull. Like that really, like, got me going all that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Because you know that that guy or, and her, like, they're talking specifically about you and, right? She's talking about you and what you're doing to her and how hot it is. Yes. And that's turning you on as well. Like, in that, that's where you realize you really like being. ball. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of like the aha moment, I think, for me, where like I found my, my perfect role in, you know, the lifestyle. And then, you know, just sort of escalate from there. Okay, guys, let's talk about Jizz for a second. I don't need to be a guy to know that men are
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Starting point is 00:17:28 So there was, you know, more and more coupled more quickly. Like I said, in the beginning, there was a couple hiccups. Like I said, one of the couples, I spoke to the wife through Craigslist before I spoke to the husband, not realizing that she didn't tell him. And then, you know, that kind of turned out to a situation. So that was definitely like a learning thing for me. Yeah, but tell me that specific situation. How did the, how did the husband then find out? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Like if she says, oh, I'm going to fuck you with my husband and then, you know, or was she like... Well, no. So, all right. So this one, we met through Craigslist. We talked. Yeah. We met out for like a coffee and seemed cool. She wasn't nervous.
Starting point is 00:18:06 She seemed to experience. It was great. She had told me that the husband didn't like to be involved and he'd only like to get pictures and videos sent to him. Yeah. And so I said, yeah, that's cool. I got, yeah, that's fine. And so we, you know, hooked up. We took some videos and pictures.
Starting point is 00:18:22 A couple weeks went by. we got together again and i think in in you know actually he was actually ended up being very cool but basically i think there was like some history there obviously that i didn't know about and he had his suspicion so he actually had followed her so on our second meeting we're there and then he comes in and like he was obviously you know very very pissed and he ended up coming down and i i just said you know listen I didn't know like if I did it's not my thing to take a wife home that's cheating like totally right and he he was actually understanding and he was like listen to me about some history and I knew something was going on he's like listen I don't blame you you didn't know whatever else he
Starting point is 00:19:10 actually ended up being very cool but that was like another moment where I was like this isn't I don't want this part of it like if this is something that that was like not for me and so I made sure that I at least, even if the husband doesn't want to be there or doesn't want any involvement, I at least need like a phone call from him or a meet out like, you know, for a coffee or something just to confirm. Because I don't want to be in a situation like that. Yeah, yeah, that's smart that you do that ahead of time, you know, and that's cool too. Yeah, no, and it makes it a lot easier, you know, like I said, filtering out the other, you know, situations where like, if anybody's getting into the lifestyle as a couple to try to save their marriage,
Starting point is 00:19:57 like that's not what's there for. You know what I mean? Or if they're looking for a release without their partner knowing, like that's not what it's there for. Right. It's there for those strong couples who, you know, want to spice things up but have good communication and have talked about it
Starting point is 00:20:13 and set some type of rules. And those are the ones that are successful within the lifestyle. Yeah, but it also seems like you did the same thing. even though you're a solo person, you know, you learned as you went and set up rules and boundaries also for yourself that work so that you could be successful in the lifestyle in your role. Oh, yeah. I mean, I had to. I mean, like I said, obviously, I didn't know about it.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I was naive. Yeah. I made my mistakes along the way, you know, but after a while, you kind of figure out, you know, where you fit in and what you need to do for yourself. And, you know, as a single male, people think, oh, like, there's no worries and no problems. It's just like you just go out and let's, you know, fuck all. these wives and it's like no big deal but it's like there's a little bit more to it than that yeah that's what i that's what i find interesting about talking to you and we're only like 13 minutes
Starting point is 00:20:59 into it that you do have that angle you know and you take it seriously and you do and you have created like i said rules and boundaries where i don't think that i've heard that a lot before yeah i think it's everybody's different like you know some people are you know they don't they just want to go have fun and like whatever happens happens and yeah i think i probably was like that in the beginning and then you know you either get that like moment where you're like oh I can make this even better if I do some things and some people get that moment some people they don't and or some people don't even stay in the lifestyle long enough to realize exactly you're a professional you've been doing this for 14 years yeah about 14 years I don't know if I'm a professional I feel like it's
Starting point is 00:21:40 like it sounds like a job it's not a job like you know but it is a lifestyle it is definitely a lifestyle yeah so I think that that's like you know more than just a thing that you kind of do on the side. You know, when it is a lifestyle, it, you know, to say professional, it's like in quotes, it's like you really, you live it, you breathe it, you know, you're a professional, you're doing this for a long time. That's, I think, what that word is, I mean. Yeah, yeah, I guess when I think of a professional, I think of like a jiggleau or something. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah, I got it. That's not what I mean. But, so, yeah, it's, it's, It's come a long way.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You know, I've definitely I've had some, like, awesome, you know, awesome great couples, you know, specifically one, it was an older guy who was married to, like, a younger wife at the time. They obviously had a great,
Starting point is 00:22:31 you know, situation going on, you know, financially or stable. And she was actually probably, like, a two-hour flight from me. And, you know, we connected through, I think it was Reddit or,
Starting point is 00:22:45 or FetLife or, somewhere, you know, one of those sites. And they actually flew me out one time, you know, for a meet. And we spent the weekend together. It was great. And then he would fly her out to where I am to, like, spend long weekends and whatever else. And, you know, he was like just happy about it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I think he was just like an older guy. And they had a good relationship. And, you know, I don't know if he couldn't, you know, keep up with her anymore or, you know, whatever it was. But like, he was just as a guy. He was just as excited about it as she was. Listen, have you listened to my podcast? I mean, this is, and I said this before, I mean, one of the most interesting things to me about doing my show is I just learn so much.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And there's certain fetishes that I never knew existed before I did my show. And I've always said, like, I have a lot of guy friends. And my guy friends are super open with me because I'm very non-judgmental about sex. So they always have been all their lives telling me things. You know, so I felt like I always kind of knew what guys were into. too, but uh-uh, okay? None of my guy friends ever told me, I want to see my girlfriend, fuck another guy.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And I have to say, that's one of the most interesting things about my show is when I started to do it, I had so many guys that started to call in the beginning and talk about this. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And I'd go back to my guy friends and be like, I had a guy on. Like, are you into those? I'd be like, no, I would never, you know? But I have to say those are very highly downloaded episode. So there are a lot of guys out there.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I'm not saying it's the majority of. guys, right? But there are a lot of guys out there that are definitely into their girl being with another guy for a whole different variety of reasons. You know, I've heard them all. Everyone has a different take on what it is about it that turns them on. But, you know, that older guy, I think, you know, he was into it like a lot of the other guys were. Like, that was his thing. Yeah, like you said, like, I would almost say, not every couple, but there was almost, almost like a different kink with every other couple or every three couples that I, you know, was with where it was like, like I said, one just wanted to sit in the room and watch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And then one didn't want to be involved at all, just wanted videos and pictures. Yeah. And, you know, one wanted to, you know, participate and join, you know, another wanted to be in the room and like, you know, degraded it and talked down to. and, you know, there was like one of them, the husband was directing us what to do. And another one, the wife was telling the husband what to do. And like, so there's so many little things that make, like, every couple kind of different. And I think I love to, like, explore that and, you know, find out, like, what their kink is. Like, that's one of the things that, like, always brings me back, like, to find the next couple.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It was almost like a good meal to me. Like when you get that good piece of steak, you watch the restaurant and then you're looking for the next restaurant that has that really good steak. Yeah. Or like whatever seasoning that you or whatever else. It was like it just spiraled. Like, you know. Well, it's a little bit like chasing the dragon. No.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It's like any good thing. If you get something, you want more. And then you're always looking for the next best thing. And like how do you top it? Yeah. And just like different experiences. Like, you know, I had one couple, which was great. you know, for whatever reason, they only like to do stuff in the car.
Starting point is 00:26:12 So they liked the husband to drive, and they had a kind of big SUV. They liked the husband to drive and me and the wife to play in the back. And that was the only time when I was with that couple that we ever did anything was in a moving vehicle. Yeah, that's funny. You know, so it's like that little thing, like, you know, they didn't like the hotel, they didn't have to go back to their place, they didn't think about to their place, they didn't think about to work. right like no it was he liked to drive and they had like a little dash with the you know phone on it and camera and we would be in the back with i'd be the back with the wife you know for
Starting point is 00:26:49 whatever reason that was their you know automobile kink or whatever it is yeah that was like their hot fantasy yes now what did you do fucker in the back are you guys sitting up are you laying down you know is he watching in his rear view mirror is he talking yeah so the the first time we did a couple times. The first time, there was no camera. He just drove and he watched in the mirror. We had sex in the back. You know, she, you know, blew me and rode me
Starting point is 00:27:16 and, you know, all that stuff. And then a couple weeks later, we got together again. And this time, he brought his camera and he had it, you know, on his dash and videoed us in the back playing. And he, so he'd like to do that and then he would send me, you know, the video
Starting point is 00:27:32 basically. And that was their thing. They liked to play in the car. and they like to share the video with their bull. And so, like, the, the, you know, the funny part is, like, you think of bull and all the Mac you think of, like, this, this deal with this huge dick is going to come fuck my wife. And, like, for most couples, it's not, like, a size thing. It's more of the erotic piece of having another guy come have sex with your wife. Yeah. So, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Like, it's not like, oh, every bull has this, like, massive dick that's, like, that's, you know what I mean? so much bigger. Like, I don't be wrong, I think I have a above average size, you know, but I'm not bringing like, you know, 12 inches to the table. Right. But sometimes there, I mean, like we both said before, it's never going to be across the board. Every single scenario is like the guy wants this, the same thing. But there are a lot of guys, and it's all relative, right? Dick size is relative. So I do think if you're a little bit above average, what's important to a lot of cucks is that they do see a bigger dick over there. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like the cuck couples for the most part, you know, so like I'm, I'm like eight inches. Yeah. So like I said, a little bit I think above average,
Starting point is 00:28:54 I guess. Yes, for sure. So for the cuck, like they love that piece of it. But like for a couple who's like a stag and vixen. Yeah, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to them, really. Yeah. Yeah, they don't want like a micro penis, but like, you know, it doesn't matter as much. It's more about... Totally, yeah, that's good distinction. Her being another guy and everything else.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Like, so it's also based upon the couple, like, you know, and then, don't get me wrong, there's some wives that like, you know, just to be with black guys. And there's some wives that just like, you know, huge penises. Yep. Like huge. So every couple kind of has a different, you know, size requirement, I guess, depending on what kind of couple they are. Now, you're cool with, I mean, because that guy was videotaping you in the backseat.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You're cool with being on videotapes. Because you said a lot of husbands want that and stuff. Do you ever worry that anything gets out there? Have you been in relationships? Are you married? Have you been doing this on the side, on the down low? So, no, not married. I've had plenty of different girlfriends that I've tried to introduce.
Starting point is 00:29:59 into the lifestyle that has not gone well. I haven't found it. But once again, like, I don't want my girl that sex with somebody else. So, like, it's hard to have a relationship necessarily when you're bringing them in, knowing that, you know, I'm a bull. I don't want her to be with somebody else. But you want to be with somebody else. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:31:45 So like it's hard to have a relationship necessarily when you're bringing them in knowing that, you know, I'm a bull. I don't want her to be with somebody else. But you want to be with somebody else. Yes. So you've tried to, so you've gone to some girlfriends and said, hey, listen, you know, I'm in the lifestyle. I fuck, like, I hook up with couples and I fuck the wives and I want to continue doing that. Well, we're together, but I don't want you to fuck other guys. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah, that's a tough stuff. And I get it. Like, I get it. Like, it's not. You need a cock queen. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So I get it. And, you know, they haven't, you know, been interested in it, which is totally understandable. But I feel like I had to be up front with them. And like, you know, I don't want to be, you know, that kind of guy. So. No, listen. I listen to me, okay. It is totally fine that that's exactly what you want because a cuck queen would be perfect for you.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And it's no different than because a lot of times when I have hot wives on or women that fuck other guys for their cuck husbands that people will say there. I will get a lot of comments like, oh, you know, she could go fuck other guys. he's not fucking other girls. I'm like across the board, 100% of the time, I'll tell you this, the guy doesn't want to fuck somebody else.
Starting point is 00:32:59 That cuck doesn't give a shit about fucking other women. He wants, his thing is seeing his wife with other guys. Like that's not like he's saying to the girl, please let me and she's saying no. It's not an unfair situation. It's exactly what that couple wants. So I don't think it's unfair.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's just a matter of finding the right person that that works. And there, you know, the cuck queen, be the perfect partner for you because she would say if someone would say oh it's not fair you're not letting her fuck other people she probably doesn't want to fuck other guys she wants to see you with other women and that's fine yeah yeah yeah well so i haven't found that company yeah i guess so yeah as far as the video goes like you mentioned so uh you know when we when we do take videos i do require them
Starting point is 00:33:42 to obviously blur my face out or try to get my face in at all yeah also like any type of you know birth marks or tattoos or anything to be like kind of blurred out so that there's no like you know identification. Do you trust their editing capabilities? I mean people don't know how to blur out a face so I'll tell you like for the most part like these guys like kind of know what they're doing
Starting point is 00:34:06 especially ones that are experienced like yeah they kind of do like they're pretty good and even if they don't like I have stuff that I use too and I can kind of help them. Oh okay okay so you know it ends up working out I haven't had any issues but what I will say is like my family is super religious. So like,
Starting point is 00:34:25 I obviously would never want it to get out, you know, because my family would probably disown me. Like, that's, like, they're like, oddly too much religious. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, there's definitely, you know, a piece there that is worrisome. And there has to be, like, you know, a mutual trust between a couple and a bull and, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:46 everything else that you don't want. But it sounds like, you know, I don't know, could you count how many couples you've been or can you not? I can give you probably a roundabout. Yeah. I know in the beginning it was obviously a lot more because I was trying to get into it.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And then as the years went on, they were spread out more. And like, honestly, I like a couple and I like to be consistent with them for a while. Yeah. You know, I don't like to really jump from couple to couple where, like, in the beginning, I was trying to get my feet wet as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So I would have jumping from a couple to couple to a couple. I feel like now I like to find a good, like solid couple to spend time with, you know, for long periods of time to get to know them, to, you know, whatever else. It's more of a connection. It makes sex better. It makes fulfilling fantasies better. So I would say I probably, you know, over the 14-year period, I don't know, probably around like 30 or 40 couples. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Now, when you were in relationships with these girls and they were like, no, I'm not interested in you in being with other couples. Did you go behind their back and still do it or did you put a hold on it? No, so if I was in a relationship, I wasn't doing any type of bull stuff. Yeah, yeah. I just didn't do it. Like, I'm pretty loyal. Yeah, I could tell by your other stories that, like, even because you were cool with the guy, like you would never want to be that person to the guy, I would assume that, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:08 you're that way. I mean, most people, I think, treat other people the way that they would want to be treated, you know? So the fact that you were very empathetic to the man who caught his girl cheating, I feel like you would be the type to not be the cheater as well, right? Yeah, no. I kind of put myself in their shoes. Like, first of all, I wouldn't want my wife being fuck by somebody else, but that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:30 whatever, that's their kink. But as far as, like, the trust piece and whatever else, like, yeah, I wouldn't want mine or finding out that way or, you know, whatever else. And, like, there's definitely ones out there that I don't care and, you know, wives or bowls or, you know, whatever. And that's, that's cool. Like, that's, if it works for them, that's, it works for them. It just, I just, like, I have to have, in this lifestyle, I have to have some type of morality or rules or things can, like, kind of spiral out of control.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Yeah. And I think that each person makes up those rules for themselves, right? You have your morals and values, but you stand by them. Now, you said that you've had so many different scenarios because you've been doing this for so long. What is your favorite top of the mountain hottest bull experience for you that you prefer, since you've basically probably had, the most of them. I think, well,
Starting point is 00:37:23 I think, first of all, a cuck couple for me, I think is like my peak. Yeah. Like, those are my favorite. Like,
Starting point is 00:37:29 you know, obviously I partake in the other ones, but I think the cuck ones are the best for me because I like to dominate a wife in front of their husband or, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:40 whatever, with pictures or videos to send to the husband. Yeah. You know, that domination piece, that control piece of that kind of relationship.
Starting point is 00:37:49 for me is the best. So I would say my favorite couple was actually a couple in New York. I met out. And I actually was out of bar. Yeah. And they were at the bar. I happened to sit next time and eat. We started talking, whatever else. And come to find out that night at this bar, whatever, was
Starting point is 00:38:09 lucky for me was like Swingers' night. Oh my God, you're always at these places that it turns out you're like in Swingers' environment. You don't even know it. Well, don't give me wrong. I do my research to figure out. You know, kind of where to go to, you know, cross lines. Okay. So, and, you know, we talked whenever else had a great time. And this couple specifically loved to be out in public with me.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So the husband, the wife, like, we went out to dinner. He liked for me to, you know, publicly flirt and, you know, kind of touch his wife while we were all out. So at dinner, you know, we were all sitting there. and I would have my hand on the table, you know, upper dress, you know, playing with her. We snuck off into the bathroom while the food came out and hooked up in the bathroom. We came back, sat down, ate.
Starting point is 00:39:07 He paid. We all went back to the hotel room and played there again. He sat in the corner. And so I was there for a couple weeks, actually, for work. and they were there as well. So we met probably four or five times over, I don't know, a two-week span. Wow. And they just love the public piece of it, which I'm not necessarily like a huge fan of because I don't want to be recognized over it.
Starting point is 00:39:33 But I was somewhere different. Like I wasn't where I lived. Yeah. So that anxiety was going for me. Yeah. And so they weren't from there either. So I think it was going for them as well. and so that was probably my best
Starting point is 00:39:49 you know couple where we could go out in couple we could go out in public and I could flirt and play with the wife and like you know she was all over me and I was all over her and you know we went out one night to a club and I went out on the dance floor
Starting point is 00:40:04 and you know she was like you know dancing all over me while he was sitting there watching and she was looking over at him there was just so many moments that I don't usually get to get because I don't really like to go out publicly around where I am.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah. You know, obviously for, you know, privacy reasons. And most couples are the same. Like, if they're playing in an area where they are, they usually don't like to go publicly. Of course. Yeah. So that was my best couple, I think, I've had over the years.
Starting point is 00:40:34 And it only, unfortunately, lasted for like a two, three-week span. Right, because you were both displaced for just that time. Yes. Yeah. I'm trying to think of any other crazy kind of, I mean, the guy flying me out was a pretty cool one as well. I want to ask you real quick and then I want to get to some specific stories, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:55 tell some like good ones and maybe one bad one. I always like a story gun wrong story, but like the good ones. My audience likes the good hot ones. But do you have now, have you ever hooked up with a guy? Because I know that there's got to be some of these couples where the guy brings up that he's interested in guys now. So, yes. and I haven't.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I'm not bisexual or nothing against. Of course, it's just not your thing. It's just not my thing. I don't, yeah, I don't get off on it. But I definitely have a situation,
Starting point is 00:41:28 you know, or multiple situations where it has, you know, come up or they've tried or wherever else. That would probably lead me into my worst story. Yeah, let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So my worst one is a couple in the beginning, you know, I was on Craigslist trying to meet a couple. this guy was on there so I was talking back in 40 he said pictures and everything else it was great I always schedule a public meet
Starting point is 00:41:53 like I like to meet out in public at least like for a coffee like nothing sexual just a meat and greet kind of thing yeah and he agreed great we set up the time I went out there met with him we sat down we had a coffee it was just me and him it was great now he had mentioned
Starting point is 00:42:12 oh my wife should be here in a little bit she's just coming from work I said, all right, cool, yeah, we can chat until she gets here and, you know, figure things out. Great. So we talked, whatever else, had a couple drinks. And then, like, an hour went by and, like, she hadn't come. And I'm like, oh, you know, what's going on? And she's running late.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And he's like, yeah, she's running late. She'll be here from work in a little bit. And so a couple more drinks. Another half hour goes by. Nothing. So then I started to feel like, okay, I think I've been, like, duped here a little bit. Oh, no. So I said, listen, dude, like, what's the deal?
Starting point is 00:42:45 because like it's an hour and a half like i get it like things come up it just doesn't seem feel right here and you know he he puts his hand like on my leg and he's like well i just really wanted to get you here because i don't have a wife but i'm looking for a guy oh god and i was like you're an asshole yeah i was like listen you're wasting my time first of all yeah and also if you're if you're going to go about doing it this is the wrong way to do it like this is not the right way to do it so like you're saying that you're something else, but then when you show up, you're not that.
Starting point is 00:43:19 That's not a good way to start this whole thing out. And so we exchanged some words, you know, obviously at the bar. And that was definitely my worst one where I was like a little bit like taken back. Like another one of those moments
Starting point is 00:43:32 who were like, wow, I was a little bit too naive in this whole, you know, situation and lifestyle. Yeah. But that was only the one time that that happened
Starting point is 00:43:41 because I'm sure that other couples put it out there. But they do it the right way. where they put it out there in the beginning, which is, right? Yeah, that particular incident or scenario only happened one time. But there's been other ones where, you know, for example, they say they're, you know, a stag-vixing couple, and then the husband wants to double team the wife, and then, you know, during sex or whatever,
Starting point is 00:44:04 sometimes I've come across where, like, the guys are, they would say it's incidental contact, but, like, when it happens seven or eight times, it's a little more than incidental. Yeah. And so I got, you know, there's been, I'm sorry to say three or four times where there's been like a hand or whatever else, like, trying to touch me. And like, I have to say, like, listen, I'm not bisexual or whatever else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And for the most part, they're like cool. They're like fine. I just, you know, I was just feeling out the situation like, you know, whatever. I got sex can be sometimes awkward and whatever else. but if it's too much then that's when I start getting like a red flag like this is what they're actually looking for that you just don't want to tell me yeah and so those those type of situations I don't I don't stick around for I don't they're not a couple that I would you know revisit now when it comes to SCX like what are the things that you prefer like do you have particulars
Starting point is 00:45:06 like do you have a particular type when it comes to a woman do you have something that you really like to do? Are you, you know, very oral? Do you like to anal? Like, I mean, are you up for everything? I don't, I don't actually have a type. I do, you know, I'm definitely an ass guy. Like, I like a nice ass. Yeah. I like, I like a confident woman outside of the bedroom that likes to be submissive inside. Uh-huh. So, you know, a lot of, you know, executive women are just women in general in a lifestyle that are very, probably more, you know, dominant or whatever else, but then come in the bedroom, they like to be submissive. Yeah, that's typical. That's more typical, right? That it's, yeah, yeah. Those ones I probably connect with the most, I think. I like that because I like to be in
Starting point is 00:45:52 control and like that kind of stuff. Yeah. And so, you know, but as far as sex, like, you know, I love, I just love sex in general. I like like a kind of no-hold bar. Yeah. Fantasy, sweaty, you know, just fun time. Like I'm pretty much down for, you know, whatever. Almost anything. Yeah. And I've,
Starting point is 00:46:13 you know, probably tried, I don't want to say everything once, but I've tried a lot of things obviously once. Like, you know, I love anal play. I love, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:20 facials. I like the women, you know, on their knees in front of me, looking up at me while they blow me. You know, one of my favorite positions is when I, I pick a hot wife up and her,
Starting point is 00:46:33 her legs are over my forearms, and her arms are over my shoulders. or over my shoulders. Right. And I'm, you know, fucking her standing up. You know, that one for me is definitely, you know, one of my favorites. Obviously, doggy. But, like, the thing is, like, you know, doggy's, everybody does doggy or everybody does whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:53 It's more about, like, the scenario you're in that exemplifies the experience. Yeah. Like, because, you know, doggy in your bed is different than, you know, doggy. at a hotel balcony. Right. You know, you know, picking up a girl and fucking her in a hotel room is different than, you know, picking up her and fucking her, like, I don't know, in a park or something. Yeah. Like, so, you know, it's not so much the positions.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It's more about the environment that you're in, the setting that you have. You know, that erotic piece, I think for me is a huge, huge part of it. Yeah, I think that's why I think some people do like car sacks. I mean, I know, like, I mean, I haven't had sex in a car in so long, but when I was younger, like, that's where that would be, like, where you did it. And the thing about the car sex, I think that could be fun is you got, you know, you have to do all kinds of weird positions sometimes, you know, because you're in a car and that just could, like, add to it, right? Stuff that, you know, in the bed, you're so free and, like, anything goes, so it's like whatever. Whereas in the car, you have to be more creative, but there's something about being denied certain things that force you into other things that make. it hot.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Oh yeah, absolutely. Even like, you know, having sex with a wife and, you know, coming inside of her or on her, whatever else, and then she goes take a shower or you have sex with a wife and, you know, she wants to keep the come on her to go home or she wants to keep to come in her to go home. You know, so it's really like that type of, you know, piece of it that is great, I think, for me. Or what gets me going is the different scenarios.
Starting point is 00:48:35 and environments and erotic pieces that go along with every different couple in every different situation. And because, you know, put yourself in issues. They're trying to spice things up. So they don't want to come and have, you know, missionary sex and, you know, a bed with the covers tucked in tight. Like, that's not, you know what I mean? You can do that at home.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. So, you know, they want to fulfill theirs. They want to make it worth it. And I want to make it worth it for them as well as me. Yeah. Now, you mentioned come on her face. or come inside her, she takes a shower. So if there's no condoms being used,
Starting point is 00:49:09 is there any sort of protection going in? Like do you guys, or is it just a trust thing? No, so like I said, different now that I was in the beginning, obviously. But now, if they want to go bareback, I have no problem. I will supply a test to them. I just require them to have a test for me. Right, correct. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:49:31 So you get that up front. Like that's all. Yes. Yeah, I won't do it without one. Now, how do people find you now and how do you find couples? I mean, are you on all the apps? You know, what's funny? Like, you know, I'm not, I wouldn't say I'm young, but I'm not old either, but I'm
Starting point is 00:49:45 kind of old school in the fact where I like, like, the initial face-to-face meat, like, at a bar or a club or whatever else. That, I don't know, natural organic meat. Like, that is, like, awesome for me. Unfortunately, now with, like, everything going on and just social media in general, like, that's kind of a piece of sticking out of it. Yeah. most people are meeting on apps, whatever else.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I actually, I'm on Reddit and I'm on FetLife. That's it. Oh, okay. I used to use Craigslist, obviously, but I don't know if that's like a thing anymore. No, not. Those are really the three. Reddit is actually really good. I like Reddit and I never would think of Reddit as a place to meet people.
Starting point is 00:50:23 It is? It's huge. Oh, really? Yes, yes. That's where, like, I've actually met, I would say now. nowadays I've met probably I would say seven out of ten couples there
Starting point is 00:50:36 interesting so now if there's a guy listen I think you know if there's a guy listening out there that wants to be in your position and he's thinking wow this guy's so lucky you know he gets to go out and like fuck other guy's wives because there's probably a lot of guys that have a king to be a bull
Starting point is 00:50:53 just like you know guys are interested in being a cuck what would your advice be like if you go on Reddit how do you advertise yourself that way. How do you, because I wouldn't even know that Reddit is a place. Like, I've got to Reddit to find out information about things, but never, you know, use it like a Google search, but I've never known it to be a place where you could hook up. So how would someone go about putting themselves out there in the way that you do in meeting women? Can you give guys advice? Well, so yeah, I think if
Starting point is 00:51:21 you're initially, so I didn't even know I wanted to be a bull until I was actually like kind of put in the situation. So some people may already know they want to be that and they want to know how to get into it. So for those people, I would say, you know, if you want to get on apps or whatever else, get on those, get on Reddit, but you got to be up front about it. Like, yeah, because some people are looking for first-time bulls. You know, some people are looking for a bull that's, you know, initially getting into it because they want to feel comfortable with somebody who's not experienced like them. Yeah. Obviously, there's a couple out there that want the experience as well, but like I said there's just as many that want that you know first time bowl or that you know whatever else
Starting point is 00:52:02 I also think you know your personality matters like that you know as much as like I said like dick size isn't always the deciding factor so like you know the dick doesn't always decide like you've got to bring the personality you got to bring the confidence you got to bring that to the table because that piece is I would say more defining of a bull than like how big your dick is right it's the attitude you know what I mean like that's that's a huge huge piece to it yeah that's interesting and so I would get on those I would be up front and truthful and you know she would hits there's a lot of people out there a lot of people connect but how do you advertise on reddit I still haven't got that answer I don't understand well so I don't yeah I don't know if I advertise really but like so
Starting point is 00:52:45 you know you can go on Reddit and like for example there's a post or thread or whatever that's hot wife yeah and people post all these pictures and videos of either their hot wives with bulls or just their hot wives in general. Yeah. And they have their, you know, a Reddit name and you can click on it. And it's like a profile page. It has pictures and videos and what they're looking for and into. And, you know, if they have an only fan, which I'm not necessarily a fan of, but, you know, they have all that stuff there.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And then you can, you know, become friends with them, chat back and forth with them, you know, figure out where each other are. If you can travel, whatever else. And then, you know, kind of go from there. You can build a list of people, basically. Yeah. And so that I would say is the best one for me. You met a lot of couples that way. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Prior to that, it was definitely Craigslist. And then more recently I've got, I tried, because I've actually talked to another bull I met through Reddit, and he had recommended FetLife. So you have a profile there? And so, yeah, I have a profile there. That one's, it's fine. But for me, I would say, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:52 and for whatever reason, everybody has their, you know, favorite donut or whatever. Mine just happens to be Reddit. Well, let me ask you this, in case there's any couples out there listening, you know, they want to do a fly you out or they live in your town. I don't know where you're from, but would you want to give a shout out to your Reddit or do you want to keep that private? I mean, it's up to you.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I don't really care. No, I mean, yeah, I can shout it out if they listen. It's C-T Sloan. C-T-S-L-O-A-N. It's C-T. C-T-S-L-L-O-A-A-E. A, and yep, and it's on FetLife and on Reddit. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:54:30 So if anyone's looking for a white bull, because I think that there are a lot of couples looking for that. Do you find that you get hit up a lot, or are you typically the one going and looking? I mean, for the most part, I'm probably the one looking. You know, I think most of the couples like to be approached by a bull. Right. But there's definitely been couples that have seen a video or a picture or whatever else
Starting point is 00:54:51 and have reached out and we've chatted and, you know, it clicked. And sometimes it doesn't click. sometimes it's not a good fit for them or for me, whatever it is. Yeah. And to each his own, I don't take any offense to, like, rejection. I hope couples don't take offense to, you know, my rejections, but, you know, it is what it is. How do you reject? Because, you know, you go, you meet the couple.
Starting point is 00:55:14 You say you like to meet them ahead of time. That's where you're going to decide whether, oh, maybe I don't want to move forward with this. And then how does that happen? So, yeah, one of my requirements is, like, I need to meet. meet or at least talk to. Yeah. The husband and wife, either together or at different times, whatever it may be, before the actual act goes down.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Yeah. I need to do that. If they don't want to do that, that for me is kind of like a flag where, so you want me to come over to your house, but you don't want to meet or talk. Right. That it's kind of like a red flag for me. You know, I think the old me that first got into it would be like, screw it and just head over. But like, you know, I'm more picky now. I'm more, you know, privacy driven, discreet,
Starting point is 00:56:02 you know, whatever else. So that's definitely a big one for me. Also, I feel like a couple, if you're truly interested, I feel like a couple would want to meet. Right. You know, before. Like, I feel like, you know, obviously, the people that are out there are very trusting and naive and whatever else, but I feel like a meet before for both parties is good. Yeah. So that for me is like one of the big things. But when you meet them and you're not interested, how do you let them down? So we talk right there. I usually don't necessarily let them down like right at that moment.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Of course not right. You know, we talk with, you know, feel each other out. Usually I go home, I sleep on it. And then I'll reach out in the next, you know, a couple days or whatever. And then just say, listen, not sure if it's a good fit, you know, whether it's because of physical attraction or vibe. or, you know, whatever it may be. That's kind of like how I usually operate, you know, but I've had couples before that met and be like,
Starting point is 00:57:02 oh, listen, we're looking for a little bit of a younger bull, or we're looking for a little bit of an older one, or we're looking for, you know, a black guy or whatever else. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, that's cool, great. And honestly, sometimes I even try to connect them. I said, oh, go my page because, like, you know, there's some other bowls that are on there that follow me
Starting point is 00:57:20 or whatever else. And like, you know, so I have no problem with, with, you know, finding them what they're looking for. Right, right. You're cool. Now, besides me and all my listeners, we all now know of your lifestyle and what you do. Does anybody in your life, like any close friends,
Starting point is 00:57:37 I know some of your exes know because you were straight up with them, but do you tell anybody about what you do? No, no, not one person. Interesting. No, and actually a lot of my exes, so where I live now, I moved here. Yeah. And previously, all my exes who would know are from an area where I wasn't from initially
Starting point is 00:57:59 anyway. So this was kind of like my second move, I would say, is for work. So where I grew up at home, nobody has any idea. Right. No clue. And also, like, I didn't have all of this, you know, Reddit in FetLife stuff going on when I was with these other women in relationships. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:19 So they don't even know, like, probably that piece of it. because I never had it when I was with them because it was earlier on. So as far as they're concerned, like, yeah, they used to date a guy younger that wanted to be a bull, and that was it. Yeah, yeah. So nobody knows at all, none of your friends.
Starting point is 00:58:36 No. Right. And so people at work standing next to you, they have no idea that that, and that's what I'm always kind of saying on my show. Like, you know, these are the types of the things that people are, not everybody's doing this, right? It's not like, oh, the majority of people are all having these kind of, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:52 interesting lies. But people do and you don't know, right? Yeah, no clue. I mean, and flip it around. You could be sitting next to a, or sitting next to a couple at a bar that you have no idea that they're a swinging couple or a hot wife couple or a stag and a vixen or, you know, on and on and so on. Like, you have no idea. People you work with. Like, it's the same thing. And I think actually that's kind of like a thing that's intriguing to me and I have to like reel myself in sometimes because being in a lifestyle sometimes I I I don't say get my hopes up but I'm like oh wow maybe they are like and I almost like talk myself into because I'm in the lifestyle like and I've been lucky about meeting couples out that they might be right you see it in everybody you're like oh there
Starting point is 00:59:42 I think they are too yeah that's a great it's a great way to put it like oh yeah she's friendly and she's nice. Oh, maybe. And I'm like, oh, I got to reel myself in sometimes. Like, okay, they can just be friendly and nice
Starting point is 00:59:52 and not want to have a bull fuck. They're why. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. What is your perfect, like scenario in the future for you look like? Is it that you really want to meet a partner and a girl that would be down
Starting point is 01:00:06 with this and, you know, partner up or are you, like, is it that you just live this kind of lifestyle forever? I don't know. It's tough. It's, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I mean, I go back and forth. Like, I don't, don't think I don't think I would I would have to find like some type of Cuck Queen I think yeah I don't think I could live a regular like life I guess you know like with monogamous I just and I'm not a cheater but like I just don't think I can like live in that world at least for too long so I think I would need something along those lines
Starting point is 01:00:43 and at the same time like I'm kind of a person that's content with like being like alone. Yeah. Like I don't necessarily need somebody. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I mean I guess I'm just,
Starting point is 01:00:56 I want to play it by a hot wife couple. Yeah. It works for you. Now have you ever developed any kind of feelings? I mean, have you had long term, any kind of long term relationships with any of these couples?
Starting point is 01:01:09 Oh yeah. Absolutely. I've had long term ones. I think my longest was probably like a two year. Yeah. And it was great. Like it was all. awesome. I just, you know, for whatever reason, I think they might have moved or whatever else. So,
Starting point is 01:01:22 you know, things come up, life comes up. You know, if they have kids or whatever else, sometimes they're getting out of the lifestyle. So a lot of things come up. But I think probably, yeah, I had a two-year one that was, that was the longest. And like I said, now, I like more of a consistent situation. Right. So you prefer, you like stuff like that. You like to have, develop those relationships and keep them. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't necessarily, I don't necessarily need to go out with the husband and drink beer and watch football. Yeah, yeah. You know, but like I do like to have some type of little bit of a personal connection.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Like, they don't need to tell me too much about their life necessarily and vice versa. But like, I need some type of connection or commonality or whatever it may be because that does intensify the hot wife relationship. Right. Yeah, and I'm sure there are a lot of couples that you meet that that's a requirement for them too. so you're the perfect bowl for them. Because it's probably the opposite goes down all the time, right? There's a lot of bowls.
Starting point is 01:02:21 It's just like one and done that I don't really want to hang around and, you know, the couples that do, that doesn't work. So you're perfectly suited for that couple that I've talked to. And, you know, and every couple's different, like I said, but I've definitely talked to a lot of couples
Starting point is 01:02:35 that are like, we want to meet the person up front. We don't just want to hop in bed with them. We want to keep that relationship ongoing. Because I think the sex gets better for a variety. of reasons. One, because of what you said, there's just a connection there. Two, because you know what each other likes, you could really hone in on it and eventually, you know, that just, to me, sex just gets better with somebody the more you do it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:03:00 So you are. Don't get me wrong. Like, I'm not going to start not do it one and done. Yeah, like, if the situation is right and I'm attracted and I feel like a good vibe, I'll do it. Yeah. My thing is like if I don't necessarily feel like a great connection and the vibe was just like okay. Yeah. Then I might not just like do a one time couple for, you know, just to get off where I can find a more consistent or have already have a more consistent couple. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 You know, around. Now, you know, I do pictures on Patreon. Typically I ask the women because I think more people are interested in seeing what they look like. Would you be interested in sending a, since you have so many picks, right, you probably have them on your, your Reddit. I don't know, but like, would you be interested in sending in an anonymous pick for my patron so people could see if they want to see what the white bull looks like? Not your face. Yeah, not a dick. Not a pick of your, like, you know, I don't post pro-not.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Like, I don't post X-rated stuff. It could be R-rated, but, you know, like a, you know, a pick. My black bulls have done, have sent it in. Yeah, I'll look and see. Yeah, there's no face. No, there's no face. No, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I show's anonymous. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't have a problem with it. So I'll look and see what I have. Like I said, I don't, like, I don't necessarily post a ton of picture videos. Yeah, yeah. Just because, like, if I have a video from a hot wife, I always ask permission, like, is it okay to post this? Because if not, like, I'm not going to, and vice versa, hopefully, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah. But I, I always ask if they say no, you know, no means no. Yeah. And, you know, that's it. So I don't necessarily, I have videos. I don't necessarily post all of them or pictures or whatever else. But the ones I do are from couples or hot wives that are okay. And for the most part,
Starting point is 01:04:52 their faces or any type of body part that would be, you know, recognizable is not in it. Of course, yeah. But no, and I won't even also on my Patreon. The other thing I don't do and won't do is post picks of other people that don't aren't in the no.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So I would never want a picture of you. And I don't think that's what you were saying, but I would never want a picture of you with like a hot wife or someone, even if their face wasn't into it because it has, to be only picks of people who know and they're anonymous. So just like one pick of you, like you know, that you want to submit. And I'll post it on my Patreon. People can see that.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Now, I do think that this is going to be, you might meet some couples or a cock queen. Who knows? Maybe, yeah. Yeah, you don't know. I don't know where CT is. You could, you know, when you find them on Reddit or Fat Life, you could ask him. We'll keep that private. But if people want to, you know, get to know you more.
Starting point is 01:05:44 If you're a couple listening and you're like, oh, he's like the perfect white bull. Because I do think you're like a great white bull for a couple out there. Like I said, you're a professional. And what I mean by that is you, you know, you've been doing this a long time. You know how to do it well. You've learned the hard way and every other way. And you got it down. So if there's other couples out there that they also know what they want and it's in line with you
Starting point is 01:06:10 because they now know everything that you're into, go find CT. He's on Fat Life and Reddit. C.T. Sloan. I'm going to put that in the description so you could go look him up. Let me know, C.T. if you get any hits from my audience, I think you probably will. I mean, a lot of people listen to my show, so keep me posted. Thank you so much for calling in.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I found a lot of, like, you know, your stories were super interesting, and I think you gave a really unique, not unique, but I just don't think I've had a lot of bulls on. You know, I've had a lot of cocks. So this is like the white bull story. and I thought, I think it was like really interesting and people are going to learn some stuff. So thanks. Well, yeah, thank you for having me on.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yeah, it's great. And I do follow your podcast. I'm a subscriber. It's awesome. I wanted to come on because I did see there was a lot of, you know, cucks. Yeah. And I think you have a couple black bulls. And hopefully I represented the white bulls good enough.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, I love. Yes, I think you did a really good job of giving that overview and really explaining things that I think I have never discussed. And we've never, we didn't, nobody has heard. that take. So, you know, I think that that's awesome. Thanks, C.T. Thanks so much for calling in. Sounds great. Thank you for having me. Okay, bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out
Starting point is 01:07:38 until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is, is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories.
Starting point is 01:07:59 And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it. it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you
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