Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1215 - “Emma” and Britney are Into Pegging, MMF Threesomes and Crossdressing

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

“Emma” and Britney are into pegging, MMF threesomes and crossdressing and they both called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including when “Emma” realized she was into crossdressing and when she realized she was bisexual, how she brought up pegging to her wife and how she felt about it at first and how she wound up loving it, when they started swinging together and what went down during their first full swap, when and why “Emma” finally brought up her crossdressing to her wife and how she felt about it and how she felt the first time she saw “Emma” dressed, how undergarment dressing led to her fully crossdressing and wearing make up etc, how they’re connect as two girls when they hang out and how it’s different then when “Emma” isn’t dressed, when “Emma” copped to being into guys and the first guy they met on Grinder and exactly what went down with him, the couple they hooked up next and why it wasn’t so great, their first mmf threesome and exactly what went down, their next mmf threesome and what went down that time, the dom they met and exactly what went down with him and how it what that experience was the best plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous a pics of BRITNEY & "EMMA" plus see pics my other female guests + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER and or HOSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier it's only $8 a month for Hosers and $10 a month for crossdressers (you get also get Hoser episodes too!) and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠ MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ " Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You get a free trial, click on the link or use my code 37712. Okay. today I have on Brittany and Emma. Emma is quote unquote Emma. Emma and Brittany are great. Okay, you're going to be obsessed with them. They turn to like, they're currently like little sluts together. They fuck guys. I have three sons with guys together. But they didn't start out that way. I mean, they met each other in college. Brittany met her husband then. She was like a religious vanilla girl. And then they just got into things over the years. You know, one thing led to another, led to another. But it was years in between. So it started with pegging. And then Brittany wanted to hook up with girls, so they tried swinging and they did some couple swaps.

They talked all about all these things in detail. And then Emma caught to the fact that she liked to dress up and Brittany was down. And then she started doing makeup and got really into it. And then Emma eventually realized or eventually caught to the fact that she wanted to be with a guy. So then Brittany and Emma started having hookups with guys. And then they started to have like threesome with guys. And now they're currently looking for a sugar daddy because they like. love being like two slutty girls together. You got to listen. Their whole story is super interesting

because it spans a lot of years. Like I'm telling you the short story. It's like one sentence, right? But, you know, this happened and in between all these things that happened, there were many years and they had actually problems. They were like ready to get divorced at one point. Okay, you got to listen to the whole story. It's super interesting. It's a great story. They've had a lot of hookups. They talk about all of it. You're going to love their story. I have pictures of them over on my Patreon. They'll be in my Discord. Like I said, they give a shout out because they were looking for a sugar daddy for the two of them. So if you're interested, email me or join my Patreon or my Discord and you can see them. So anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with

Brittany and Emma. Hi, Brittany and quote unquote Emma. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you guys doing today? We are doing good. Okay, that's Brittany. And now Emma is Brittany's husband. I say quote unquote Emma because you're a cross-dresser, right? And I would assume that's the name that you use when you are dressed up, right? That is correct, yes. Okay, so let me get it. And you guys are also into pegging, you've done a little swinging or something like that. We're going to get all the details.

But let me just get a snapshot of where you guys are now. Are you guys like married first marriage for the both of you and how long you've been together? Like, what's your guys deal now? Yes, so this is our first marriage. We've been married five years, but we've been together 12. Oh, so you've been together a long time. Okay, so let's go back to first, Emma, let me get a little bit of your story, like your cross-dressing story.

Like if I was talking to you alone, you know, like when did you realize, like typically with people who have a fetish, I like to go all the way back and see like when they had their first memory of like being into it and stuff. Do we like, when was that for you? It was young. So I was probably five years old or something. Uh-huh. And my sister had this blue bikini. and I wanted to try it on, you know? Yeah.

And so I snuck it in the bathroom and I tried it on a couple of times. And I just enjoyed it was no sexual thing there five years old. It was just something I wanted to try on. And when you tried it on, you must have a memory of like feeling really comfortable or something like, or did you look at yourself in the mirror? Did you like the way it looked, the way it felt or all of the above? Yeah, all the above. It felt good.

I was comfortable. super nervous because it was kind of, you know, you're not supposed to do it. I knew that at five years old. So it was like, but I still wanted to do it. And it was kind of my secret kind of thing. So tried it on and loved it. Now, did you ever get caught during those early years when you were like stealing like your sister's stuff and dressing up? No, nothing that I know of. Hopefully not. not. And if I ever did, my parents didn't say a word about it. Now, let me ask you this. Did you ever question, your sexuality. Like, how do you identify sexually? Are you straight? Are you buy? Are you heteroflexible? Ah, sure. It's, I guess my, if you want to call it that.

Okay. Like men and women, men when I'm Emma, but when I'm not Emma, just straight. Yeah, isn't that interesting? I hear that a lot with cross-dressers. You know, they only are interested in guys when they're in their feminine energy, like, but not when they're male. And they're not not into guys then. Okay, so was that like confusing for you growing up or was that clear for you? Like, when did you realize that about yourself? It wasn't like super confusing. I just enjoyed it. It was just on my time. I didn't tell nobody. I did it. And I just moved on, you know. But what about the guy thing? Did you ever hook up with guys when you were younger or like before you

met Brittany? No, definitely not. This meeting up with guys, it's pretty recent. Oh, interesting. I love that. So it's something that you and Brittany do together. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. That's even more interesting than if you did it alone. Okay, so you, you know, you had that always as a secret. Now, before, like, Brittany, did you ever, did you always, like, were you always honest about your fetish with the women that you dated? No. Okay. They kind of knew, but I wasn't open. I would kind of wear panties or something if they left on like, hey, look at this, but it was never to this extent or, anything like that. So what changed when you met Brittany? Like how and why was like Brittany the one or how did it even come up between you and Brittany? Do you remember Britney when he brought it up to you? So it wasn't like just straightforward. It kind of progressed over the years. And so when we kind of first were playing with things, it was more on the pegging realm. And we were in college and I have like a religious background.

So for me, I knew of vanilla sex and that was about it. You definitely know, didn't know about strapping it on and fucking a guy in the ass. Exactly. And let me tell you, there's a lot of work to fucking somebody. Like, I had no idea.

So, you know, and I wasn't sure what I was doing. I was, you know, uncomfortable in the way of like, it's new, like,

what, you know. So we kind of started there. And then things just kind of progressed. And it definitely wasn't an easy road. But let me ask. you this, Brittany, when Emma comes to you and says, hey, I'm like into pegging. Like, what do you, you know, like, how did that conversation go? Were you freaked out? Because I think a lot of women, the first thing they would think is like, oh, does that mean like you're gay or into guys? And like, did he cop to that with you right off the bat? Like, what was that first initial conversation? Even just about pegging, because I would assume as a vanilla religious girl, that might have been kind of shocking for you. Oh, absolutely. You know, it was, you know, what is that? Yeah. What do you need you like this? Yeah, exactly.

I definitely didn't have any background with that, but they, you know, Emma's always been honest and up front and it was, you know, this is just what interests me. And so, of course, you know, as a partner, I want to be that person, you know. So we kind of started it that way, if that makes sense. Well, so you were open, like even though you didn't know and you were like it wasn't something you ever experienced, you weren't, it wasn't like some deal breaker that you're like, oh my God, that's so fucked up. Like, I can't be with this person.

Like you were willing to like go there because this is your partner and you were into him. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And you know what I personally think? And I don't know. I mean, you obviously think this. But I think a lot of guys, because I talk a lot of guys that have fetishes and a lot of them keep them under wraps. And there's some that are way harder to sell to a check than others, right?

But, you know, a lot of times I think, you know, guys don't give women credit enough. I think it's so hard to meet the one and someone that you really like. And if all the stars align and you're finally like there and you're good to go and everything's great. Like I don't think most women are going to leave if they find something out about something like that. Right? Like I just feel like women are, uh, would a lot of more women probably would be more accepting of a guy's fetish if they were more honest about it.

I think guys are so petrified that a woman would just give everything up because of it. And I don't think that's the case. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, and once you kind of start exploring that world, you realize how popular it is. you know. Well, that's important. So like, like, if you were talking to a woman who like just had this, you know, thrown on her, like, what did you find out that made you feel better about it and, you know, become more comfortable? Communication, to be honest with you. You know, it just took some practice. It took some time, patience on both ends and just kind of exploring it together. It's just another adventure for us. And now, Emma, did you just get a vibe that, like, Brittany was the one that you could like kind of like tell all these things.

you because she was like super cool or whatever? Yeah, so it first started with pegging and it took like seven, eight years to tell her about. Like it took a long time to do that. Oh, okay. I like that. That's a real life. It wasn't like you told her about pegging then two days later. You're like, oh, if you like this, let me tell you this.

Yes, yes. Definitely not. In the beginning, you know, it was like when we pegged, it was like twice. when we first started, then it probably took two years to do it again. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it took a while and it took our relationship forming to be able to feel comfortable and stuff to bring up other things. Yeah.

Now, bring up. And at the time, yeah, go on. Sorry. At the time, you know, it kind of felt like I wasn't aware of all the things that I am now. So I didn't know if it was a phase or sure, let's try this, you know. And then, of course, life happens. and years later, it took a little while. What, to get back into it, you mean fully?

Yeah. Okay. Did you like, okay, so in the beginning, I'm assuming you're doing it for him because he's your guy and you like him or whatever. Like, did you eventually get to the point where you actually enjoy it? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And how long do you think that took?

Like, I'm assuming that wouldn't be automatic because like I've heard before, I've never used this job on, but I've heard it's like hard to figure out. Oh, absolutely. Just the technical ability. it's also trying to find the right strap on that fits you and your body type and trying to get comfortable with it and then getting comfortable with being that dominant role was a whole other realm. Totally. So it took a while, but now it's just kind of second nature, I guess. Yeah. So once you were able to fully embrace it, you learned like that, not only could you do it, but you were like actually turned on by yet? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I've heard that. I've heard some women that like got into pegging at first. they didn't know it and they said like they said like you was hard to do but once they got into it and they sort of they had that power switch right and they realized like oh they kind of like like it you know it's like something that they would have never expected oh absolutely especially from my religious background oh my god imagine okay so seven years you're just doing this uh Emma you haven't cop to that you're like might be into guys you haven't said anything about the dressing were

you still dressing though like on the deal without her knowing a little Yeah, I was a little when she was out of town or I had the weekend. I would definitely like put something on and kind of get in that headspace. But nothing crazy, nothing like we're doing that. Why not surprise your partner one night soon by giving them like the hottest sensual massage? Now, I know that sometimes that could be intimidating for a lot of people because you think maybe you don't know what the fuck to do. Well, that's okay because you could be. find out exactly how to give the best central massage to your partner on Beducated. Beeducated.com is the Netflix of sex education. And they have so many different types of massage courses. I mean, you could take the Lingam massage, a yoni massage, the full body massage course or a breast massage course. And the best thing about their courses to me is you don't just learn by reading about it. You actually learn by seeing it in.

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weekend while she's gone. Correct. Some people might do that. I mean, it sounds like you kind of were very moderate with it, which is cool. Yeah, and it probably took another seven years to, we was in college when we did the pegging thing. Okay. When we got married and things, we were kind of, we started swinging at that point. So that was kind of the next phase is we got on a half.

We happened to found another couple. they was actually in a different state, but we're just visiting. And actually on our honeymoon, we did our first swinging event. Oh, wow. So how did that come up? So I, at the time, was by Curious. And, you know, Emma was all for it. And so we got to go on this app.

And then it just kind of became a conversation of, you know, let's just try it. And all the things aligned, we had never traveled up until our wedding slash honeymoon. And so we finally took a plane for the first time during that time. And so we were able to meet up with that couple. And so for the next four or five years, you know, it'd be once or twice a year. That you'd see them. Yes. Okay.

So how was that first experience for you guys? Because that's pretty major, especially for the vanilla girl. I mean, I know you're pegging and everything, but now you're going to be like hooking up with a, a woman for the first time. Yeah, yeah. So they don't know anything about the pegging. They don't know anything about Emma. That was just kind of separate. And so, you know, we kind of just went in and we became really close. So that kind of just made it easier. And there's something about seeing your partner and just a lot of pleasure that kind of just became fun. So was it full swap? Like, I mean, what was on the table going into that couple meeting that couple? I know you wanted to be with a woman, but did you want him to be with a

woman, like, what was the deal? Well, at the time, never done it. And we were open. We both were open to whatever. We just didn't want to, we wanted the same room, you know, we wanted to be there together. And so once things kind of started happening, you know, we are pretty good at eye contact. And so that's how we communicate. And so we just kind of progressed with that. And the first time, it was, it was a full swap. She was, she and her time. with the lady and also we switch partners and it was super hot the first time was super hot so you both enjoyed seeing the other one with somebody else like you said that brittany that like that was like a turn on to see him turned on with somebody else oh absolutely and same for you emma right

oh yeah yeah and emma how was being with the girl that was like your first experience uh it was not emma no sorry not emma i get you guys confused brittany it was her first time being by i mean you, I haven't gotten to your first experience. I'm up with a guy. No, it was, it was good. So the female was receptive of me going down on her, but didn't want to reciprocate, which is completely fine. Okay. This was also new for her as well. And so for me, it was just nice to be able to explore and have some guidance between my person and then her partner. So it just kind of became fun. Yeah, interesting. Okay, so now you're like, you guys are like doing a lot of things together. I mean, and you're both like totally down, totally on the same page. I mean,

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thinking this we were in a bad spot just wasn't communicating very well and we were at our breaking point and had a nice long talk. She'd probably see me cry for the first time. I did. During this talk, and I got vulnerable. And after that, we had, like, we just made a point every Friday, we're going to have Friday night beers. And that's when I got comfortable being vulnerable, really vulnerable to my wife.

And so after a while, we got our relationship back on track. I was being a whole lot more vulnerable. And so that's when I kind of spilled the tea that I kind of like dressed up. Wow. And do you remember, Brittany, like where you were when he told you that? And was it a total shock to you? A little bit. So, yeah, we were, you know, on the porch.

And it was either, you know, are we doing this? Are we all in or are we done? Okay. And then, you know, she did. She broke down and started crying. And it was just one of those, like, no. like we just haven't gave it our best effort. And so then, you know, the beans over time, you know,

over those Friday night beers kind of came out and it was just like, whoa, okay, you know. And that's when, you know, she told me about things when she was younger, about, you know, her sister and trying on the bikini. And so then it kind of clicked in my head of like, oh, this isn't just like something I want to try. Like I'm kind of serious about this. I've had this for a long time. and I as a wife get my needs met, you know, and it just kind of became like she's my best friend. And so we've just had fun with it.

But does that happen immediately like because you've been through so much together and everything that the, you know, right when she brought it up to you that you were like okay with it? Yeah. I mean, I was open to it, right? Like just being down for whatever. Like, okay, let's try this. And things kind of progressed. Like we may have started with what. Yeah, the first night that I told her, we went home and I put on a few things and showed her.

And she pegged me on the couch. It was freaking hot. But that's kind of what started everything was that night me telling her. And she was open enough to like seeing me and like feminine lingerie and stuff like that. And having sex with you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like major. That's a lot.

It was fun. I mean, because that's why I would think the ultimate goal, right? And sometimes it's like first the conversation and then it takes a while before that. But literally that same time she sees you dressed up, she was like down. But that's pretty amazing because I've heard a lot of different stories. You know, and sometimes it's the first seeing somebody in a certain way, you know, maybe it takes them a while to get used to it. But I mean, so when you, Brittany, when you saw Emma dressed as Emma, how did you feel? Like was it, were you turned on by the thought of like, you know, being into?

while she was dressed that way? Yeah, you know, it was like, okay, wait a minute. It kind of shocked me in the sense of like I wasn't prepared to be turned on. And so it was like, oh, hell yeah. Do you think that's because you're kind of like into women anyway? Maybe that has something to do with it? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And what did she wear that first time?

Do you remember? It was this. So I had got it on. Amazon and it was this little pink skirt type ordeal. I know. I think it was something different in the first. I think that was the second time. I can't remember what I wore. Okay. But was it like lingerie? Was it a full outfit? Like was it a bra on panties? Like do you remember like what it was that you saw her in the first time? Yeah, it was just like some brawn panties or a little bit of lingerie. It was nothing crazy. So it was undergarments, right? It wasn't

like full-on cross-dressing. It was undergarments. Like you're ready for sex. Here I am. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. And Brittany was down.

And did you peg her that night? Oh, absolutely. Okay. That's so interesting. So, I mean, how was that for you,

Emma, being somebody who had cat this underwraps for so long? I'm assuming she's the first person that you talked to about this and like the first time in your whole life that you're actually sharing

the side of yourself with someone else. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think it was for me, I was always kept under wraps. And it was me not being vulnerable. And it didn't help our relationship when I had this and I wasn't vulnerable about it. So once I did share and she was completely supportive, it like supercharged our relationship, I think.

Yeah, how interesting, right? Yeah. Yeah. And for you, Brittany, did it make you feel? feel closer to because you like are now like the one person that knows about something that he's never revealed to anyone. I feel like that would make you feel special. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And the communication got 10 times better. You know, it was like things just kind of sort of fallen into place once Emma kind of became more vulnerable with me. Yeah, that's amazing.

I mean, would you ever looking back? Now, let me ask you this. When does the like you guys have hooked up with guys with as Emma? Emma? Yes. Okay. So is that like the next. next thing that comes up? Like, when does that take place? It took another, it took another couple of years. Oh, my God. I love these years. Yeah. Yeah. So the next thing was naming Emma. Oh, yeah. Tell me that story. Yeah. So it was one of those, like, my husband and Emma kind of are just two different people. They have different mannerisms. And so we kind of just sat down and was talking about it. And so it kind of became nice to name the other side. Yeah.

And it kind of, you know, kind of like a little secret between the two of us. And it became fun because now our Saturdays was going to the makeup store where my husband didn't really like to be. But Emma loved to be with me. Interesting. So it became like my best friend in that sense of like, let's go shopping. But wait, would you go shopping with Emma or your husband's? So Emma, personality. wise. Now, you know, we're very discreet. So definitely in my husband's attire, if that makes sense.

Yeah, I got it. But you could, let me ask you this, Emma. Like, you could switch into Emma, like, just, like, even just in the personality without being dressed, like, when you go to the makeup store with her, since you're so discreet. Yeah. Yeah. So for, for me, it was, once we had our first talk, it was, it progressed. And then we had, like, girl dates. And so, I would wear like panties and a bra underneath my clothes and I'm like in that persona and we'd go out and go to the makeup store, the lingerie store, or just like a regular boutique or something. And I'm totally into it. I hate shopping in my, you know, mail form. I hate it.

Yeah, I can't stand it. Yeah, no guy likes that. Yeah. So when I'm girly and like in that mode, I love it. I love going out with my wife and we get to kind of be girly together. This was like one of our favorite things ever. Wow, that's so interesting. And Emma, like, do you feel, I mean, because she says like you're totally two separate

people, you know, like, do you feel like when you are Emma, it's like such a release of being your male side and vice versa? Like, I mean, does sometimes Emma like to switch off and be, you know, your male form too? Like, you've kind of have like two different people. and you switch out and it's like a release on each in each way. I don't even know. You tell you. Yeah, so my mail side is very manly. I'm like a jack of all trades. I can do it all. I'm the person everybody calls on and relies on. So for when I get to take that cap off and and just be Emma, I get to let go of all that and just be Emma in the moment and be girly and get to do this.

Oh my gosh. But Brittany, I'm going to ask you a weird question. Like, you ever have fights with Emma or do you only have fights with your husband? I don't know why I was thought of that. Your husband? Only fights with my husband. But Emma can be a little bitch too. Well, because I mean, girls do fight with girls.

You know, catty bitches, like you said. She's bushy and likes to spend money. Oh, my God. That is so funny. So, like, are you, like, similar as girls or she's a little bit? more boozy than you. She's a little bit more bougie, but for the most part, we're very similar. So, yeah.

Oh, my God. Okay. So, but you, you know, I'm assuming you're out buying makeup and stuff. So you started to fully dress, right? Like, I get the whole undergarments when you're going out. I forgot like that's the way to do it on the DL, right? Like even just wearing that bra and panties underneath makes you feel like you're in your feminine form.

That's how you could do it. But, like, when you're home, like, the fully dressing and stuff, like, what kind of style do you like? and then let's talk about like how Brittany helps you do your makeup and all that kind of stuff. Okay. I want to back up just a tad. Yeah. So we, I really didn't fully drink.

It was always just lingerie. Okay. At the house, it was quick. And then we, we, we, we, then I, it just progressed. And I just kind of told her, you know, I think I'd like to try putting makeup on. Uh-huh. And we tried that. I, I fucking loved it, you know.

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when did you get into like the makeup thing? Like, what is your style, like your vibe? Like, do you wear a lot of makeup? Do you not like, did you start doing the makeup? You had never done the makeup before? So she experimented with it on her own, just kind of, you know, first she had mentioned she was interested. So we got like one of those Amazon, like came with everything kind of kits. Yeah. And so she would play with it and it just kind of like, let me let me help you with that, you know? And then it just kind of became full blown. And she's definitely a full glam girlie. Now, how does Emma? Because listen, I talk to a lot of different cross-dress.

Some of them really dress up and sometimes they're like, oh, unfortunately, I'm like a really big guy. So I don't look that passable and stuff or I'm very hairy. So it's hard for me to, you know, kind of look very possible. They still like to dress. That doesn't take away from it. But like, you know, when Emma has full makeup on, like, how possible are you or she? So at first I was hairy. Okay.

Yeah, I was hairy. And I guess it was probably for my birthday because we're getting a hot tub. I wanted to shave it all. Actually, I didn't for a while. But I'd shave my back and said she'd love my chest hair at first. Since we started dating, she loved it. And so I had to keep it. And I'm just like, damn it, it doesn't look good.

Yeah. Fucking shave this shit, you know, but I didn't. So I'd still have the chest hair and everything. But my makeup done and we're like in a hot tub. I got to have a bathing suit, a feminine bathing suit for the first time. Oh, wow. That was like super cool. And then for my birthday, it was just getting to feel girly the whole weekend,

with dresses. We even go out shopping. We found a little Emma necklace, and it was like super cute, loved it. Yeah. So, like, that was, I think that was like the pivotal point in Emma was that first birth. Okay, and then, but it takes years. So now you're like Emma, she's helping you. Do you, you just do this though at home, right?

Like I'm assuming you're still very private about it? Yes, absolutely. Okay, and would anyone in your regular life know that you're Emma sometimes? Or would people be fucking shocked? Because you're so manly when you're, you know, Joe Schmo or whoever you are when you're not Emma. They would be fucking shocked and be like, what the fuck is he doing? Yeah, that's the craziest thing. Right. That's what I'm always like. That's what my show's here to say. You never know that these people are doing these things. Like they're just regular people walking around. You wouldn't know. It's not like a crushess or looks like more feminine than somebody else. You know what I'm saying at all. And I look pretty pretty down feminine when she does my makeup and I'm like I eventually shaved and everything. I look pretty. She's possible 100% now. The only giveaway is her height. She loves wearing heels.

But other than that, I mean, you know, she's pretty much shaved. And so, yeah. Yeah, great. She wants to wear wigs. Oh, okay. What color hair are you? What do you have, Emma? Do you have all different colors?

I mean, do you get to play out? All different colors. Right now, it is red. Oh, interesting. Now, Brittany, do you have, like, a favorite, like, way that Emma gets, like, gets dressed up or how she looks? Because, like, you're into chicks, right? So you must like maybe prefer like when Emma's a blonde, a brunette, a redhead, I don't know. You tell me.

No, because it's still kind of like this new adventure. Like let's try something new, you know. So you like the variety. Yeah. I like doing her eye shadow, you know, like different colors, blue, purple, pink, you know. So it's just a lot of fun. Oh my God. It's so funny.

Like it's so interesting because it is like you have like a friend too, like someone new in your life, right? even though this is like the same person that you've been with for so long, but I feel like it must have added so much into your life because like you said, you guys are like, when she's Emma, you have like a friend, a girlfriend's too. Oh, absolutely. And, you know, this bitch loves to sell my clothes now. Oh my God. Are you guys the same size? We are. You're kidding. You're so lucky. Yes, very fortunate. And now Emma, do you like Brittany to like get drunk? dressed up and do you do Britney's makeup?

Like, do you get into that kind of stuff too? I know you're a little bit more boozy than she is. No, I don't do her makeup, but I definitely give her like, hey, will you do this? Or, you know, let's have a photo shoot so you get like super dolled up too and like, let's have fun, you know. He likes when we both feel good. So we're both glammed up. So that's what I was thinking. Like, so Emma likes when you're as like glammed up as she is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you do that together. And now, okay, so now you're doing this. Now you, now that couple that you're with, you're with them for a while, but you never bring any of this to the table with them. No. That stays separate.

Yeah, and that was like before Emma and a little Durham, but we never brought up. They just wasn't, if they were like cool with it, maybe, but you could just sense that they wouldn't be. Yeah, that's a totally different thing. But eventually, like somehow the guy thing comes up, right? Should we go there now? Does that like the next thing in the story? So that was the second birthday. Oh, interesting.

We decided. Maybe a few weeks before, I kind of told her maybe I would like to be with a guy. And so I downloaded Grindr and was just like happened to be on it, just looking around. Nothing crazy. But kind of told her the conversations and showed her. And it just so happened to be my birthday weekend. Again. Coming up.

So, yeah. So again, we go to like the same place, two hours away. and I'm like, well, she brings it up. She goes, well, you want to get on a grinder and find somebody? And I go, well, heck yeah. And so she goes on there and like, is like messaging and she's like going hardcore at it, like trying to find somebody. Oh, my God. And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

I'm like nervous out of my mind. This might actually happen, you know. Thank God Brittany was there to push you along. I know. It's funny. Yeah. And so we connect with this guy. And, of course, every guy sends a dick pick.

Yeah. Very first thing, right? And sends a dick pick. And then he was pretty polite. Like, hey, sorry about that. I'm just super curious about you and all this. So Brittany goes, yeah, we're free tomorrow. Or can you meet?

And we'll meet for lunch or whatever. So she plans it. We're meeting this guy for lunch. And oh, my gosh, Kathy, I'm like a nervous. fucking wreck in the car. I'm not talking. I'm just like sweating. I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy. I mean, it's a big fantasy of mine, but I'm just like freaking the fuck out. Like, what are we doing? Now, are you meeting in a hotel room the first time? Are you going to get dressed as Emma in there? Are you dressed as Emma in the car? Like, what's the deal? Okay, so the deal is I'm meeting in just my mail form first. And then if we all click and it's a go, then we're, going back and I'll change.

Oh, okay. So you're meeting in a public place first just to talk and meet up. Let me ask you real quick and then we're going to get to the whole story of the first time. Brittany, when Emma comes to you, it just sounds like you were like very down and the fact that you're like on Tinder looking for dudes. Like was it something that you're like turned on by like into seeing him with another guy? Yeah, absolutely. You know, the slutty side of me kind of came out and, you know, just having like a best girlfriend, right?

it was like no bitch like let's go for it my god you've come a long way from yes from the beginning of this episode i know it took years but you know yeah you're no vanilla religious girl anymore no so you were like just down and and ready and into it oh absolutely right you're gonna fuck the guy too well at first you know the it's the you know hey i may or may not participate but it's about Emma, especially for the first time, you know, kind of thing. And so that's just kind of how we preference it. And Emma, I'm assuming you're going to bottom, right? Like, this is what it's about. Oh, yeah. I definitely don't want to top. I definitely want to bottom. I want to be like the female. Yeah, of course. And I want to be treated as a female. And let me ask you this. When you put up,

you know, your profile, like couple guy is into cross-dressing wants to, you know, be bottomed by a guy. Like, did you get a lot of guys hitting you up? Because I, I have heard. And, I think people would be surprised of how many like straight guys are into this kind of a thing. There's so many. Right. It's hard to filter through it now. Yeah. Is that crazy?

Yeah. It's like every day. Dick pick after big pick after big pick. Yeah. Yeah. It's so fucking funny. Right. Yeah.

Because listen, when I, I've talked to a lot of crossdresses that like you do. They like to be with a guy sometimes only one dressed and they get hit on a lot. Like it's not like slim. It's not like looking for a unicorn or anything like that. I mean, there's a lot of guys that do this, right? And I'm assuming a lot of them are married, guys, straight guys, whatever you want to call it, but they're into it and they're down, you know? So you got hit up by a lot of guys, but you pick this one. Okay, so now you meet him. How does that initial meeting go? So Emma, I don't think said two, maybe three words. She was so nervous. And I, we're both pretty outgoing. But, but. But out of the two of us, I'm really more outgoing. And so, you know, I just kind of led the conversation. You know, he was a really cool, chill dude.

It was completely understanding. What was his deal? Do you know if he was married, single, young, old? Like, what, like, just give me the screen. He was single. Okay. He was single. And, you know, in the area that we were visiting, there wasn't a whole lot of pickings.

For, like, trans girls or cross-dressers or he had, like, trans girlfriends back at a bigger city. And he's on there looking for. like feminine guys like me so we meet i was super nervous then it was like a go at the restaurant and uh i'm freaking the hell out i am like a nervous wreck didn't talk the whole way back thank i brittney's there brittany are you just keeping like the conversation going oh absolutely you know and it it was one of those things that like i told they get it i get why she's nervous and so it just kind of became that supporting role of like, you know, we got this. And my go-to saying is fuck it. So, you know, it's like, what's the worst that could happen? Fuck it. Like, let's just go have

fun. If it doesn't work out, cool, great. We're not from this area. Yeah. And so she was able to kind of like, okay, like, no, let's do this. Okay. So you're driving the car. You're not talking much, Emma. And you're not dressed yet. So where do you go to like back to a hotel? Airbnb. Oh, okay. So you go to the back to the Airbnb and you go into another room and get dressed. Brittany, you go help Emma get dressed and that guy's like waiting downstairs or something. No. It's a process.

It probably took three hours to get ready. Wow, you are high maintenance, Emma. Three hours? Oh, yeah. We've got to do the shaving. You've got to do the makeup. You've got to do the makeup. Yeah, okay.

So you really didn't think you were going to do it. I mean, most girls shave thinking that when they think they're going to get late, Okay, they shaved before the day. You were like, you know, didn't shave at all. So you have to go through. No, I probably shaved the day before, but I wanted to like make sure, cause, you know, I want to look and present feminine. And I want to be like as smooth as possible. Yeah, no, listen, I'm, listen, no guy doesn't appreciate a girl who takes a long time to get ready and make herself look her best.

So you go back. Where's the guy at this point? Waiting for three hours or does he go back wherever he's, he is and he comes to meet you three hours later? So he was actually at work. So he met us for his lunch and was going to come meet us after work. Co-workers know. Okay, so you drop him off. You jump him off back at work.

And he comes later and Emma's all dressed up. Yes. Okay. So walk me through that whole story. Again, I am quiet, not saying a word, nervous as hell. And just so you know, Emma, guys love girls that don't fucking talk anyway. worry about it. That's every guy's fantasy.

Well, that was me. Yeah, good. You're good. Thank goodness. Brittany was there just to say hello. Yeah, that's all. That's all he wanted. My booty call.

Wait, my booty call, guys, sometimes will text me like, please don't talk when I get there. Don't say one word till we're done. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So you're still really nervous. He comes over.

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. So he comes over. Chris, Brittany is doing the talking and he looks at me and I'm on hills and he goes, guys, y'all didn't tell me I need to bring climbing gear because I was so tall. Oh my joke. Anyway, we kind of relaxed a little bit and he's like, well, how do you want to start? And I'm just, you know, he kind of just drops it and sits on the couch.

And I go over there and get down and like start a. blowing him and Britney. Brittany is just sitting on the couch, watching, and I mean, I'm in heaven. Like, this is like my dream. This is like my whole fantasy is this right here. Yeah, you know.

Crazy. Blowing him. It's like going pretty good, but he just wouldn't get hard. Okay. And I'm like, what the fuck? What am I doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the woman does, I mean, you have to understand it. That's never about you. That's about that person. You know what I get why you're like, what's the fuck? Yeah. Well, and so she also

understands, you know, like it's a blow job for a reason. Yeah. So it's like, oh no, bitch, now you get to understand. Yeah. Make it hard. Yeah. So actually the first time to go super great, I didn't know what was going on or was just trying to make him so comfortable. So my wife, so she ended up going to the bedroom and I'm blowing this dude. He's still not getting hard. And I'm like, you know, what the heck? Yeah, so I just kind of, we were thinking maybe it was just too much, you know, somebody watching. And so I kind of stepped out.

But I think it was just, you know, his nerves. And, you know, we all know that that happens and that's normal and, you know, all the things. So he, we, she, Emma blew him for probably another 20 minutes. I swear to God, it was forever. Yeah. Yeah. And so they ended up, the gentleman ended up leaving. and, you know, apologize and all the thing, which, again, it happens, no big deal.

So that was kind of our first time. It was just kind of a dud, but we completely understood. And we're actually hoping to meet him when we go back later on in the year. Okay. So have you weren't penetrated, though, right, Emma? No. Oh, okay. So you could.

And listen, that's more common in the lifestyle and these kinds of situations that people would think. I remember when I first started doing my show, someone was like, yeah, and I showed up at the Swinger Party, but I couldn't get up. I was like, who, what guy can't get it up when there's like just all these naked people in front? You know, I just really couldn't wrap my head around the fact that that could be true, you know, but now after talking to so many people and doing this for 11 years, like it's actually very common, you know, that people get like stage right and shit, you know, and they can't get it up. It's not something that doesn't happen. It happens a lot, especially in these kinds of situations.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, and we've remained in contact. So, again, you know, we hope to meet up next time we're in that. that area later in the year. So hopefully it'll go a little better once some times pass. And now we've kind of already met, you know, all the, the, you know, we've had some experiences now. So it's not so new. And so no. Oh, you've had other guys since him? Oh, yes. Oh, okay. So keep going. Sorry. That's interrupt. So that was a dud. That guy was a dud. Yeah. So then. We

Yeah, that was, oh my gosh. We met a couple on the app and We kind of sort of messaged in them Because the female, the wife was interested in other females So we were like, oh, okay, let's try this, you know So we met them for drinks. It seemed pretty all right. The wife was beautiful. The guy was not.

Yeah, that's a common problem to get four people into each other. Yeah. And it was one of those like, what the fuck are we doing once we kind of got there? Because you could definitely tell it was more led and driven by the husband. So again, it was kind of a dud. But why was it a dud? No one hooked up with anyone? We're driving home. They're like, well, do you guys want to come over? And my wife, the other wife was beautiful. My wife's like, heck yeah, I'm, you know, he's bisexual.

Fuck it. Let's go. I'm like, okay, all right. So we get over there and like he is not attractive at all. I'm not in like Emma form at all. So I'm not really in the guys. But Kathy, I like jumped on a grenade for my wife. That's what I did.

You took one for the team. Listen, I've heard from couples before that do it, whether it's the wife or the husband, someone sometimes. A lot of times, you know, that happens. Someone takes it for the team. That was you, Emma. Yeah. That was me. Well, and they, you know, we kind of all took on some 420, you know, things beforehand.

And I think that really just kind of put her out of her head. She was super quiet. And so the whole thing was just awkward. And it was like, okay, I think, I think we're good, you know? Like, we're good. Yeah, but the question I have, Emma, were you penetrated that time? No. Okay.

So you still haven't had your first time, okay? No. Okay. So go on. So who's your next guy? Does any guy ever like not a dud? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.

We got some great ones. So the good one, we met on the app. He was local. Super chill guy. Didn't communicate very well, but super chill. And we just lined something up for a Friday. He's like totally down. So that Friday evening, I get home, get all like three hours go by.

I have to do my shaving, prepping, everything. My wife does my makeup, and this guy comes over, and I'm like, it's still a nervous wreck, but I remember him walking now, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, what am I doing? He comes in, and we end up going on the couch, and he was, like, rock hard before we even started. So, oh, my gosh, so now I'm off of the mountain. Yeah, top of the mountain. I get to blow him for a while. he was into eating me.

So he kind of bit me over. It was eating me out, which was the first. It was like super cool, never had it. And got to feel really feminine in the moment. Yeah. I was watching, you know, in the beginning, which that didn't last long. You know, it's hard to just watch and not participate. Oh, so now you get into the action with this guy?

Yes. So it's just, it's like it's a threesome. Yes. Okay. And so, you know, me and Emma. got to Sherrickock for the first time. So we both kind of was blowing him and having fun with that. And then, of course, things went to the bedroom and hands and faces and everything was everywhere at some point.

And then I finally got to be penetrated. And oh, my gosh, it was like the top of the mountain. I'm like in heaven. It was feeling awesome. He was wonderful. It was just sort of like overall. great experience. Wow. Yeah. I mean, first of all, that is like you said, top of the mountain. Like, I mean, that was that first experience. Finally, this guy, everything was down, all the stars aligned.

And you were, that was the first time you were topped, right? And it was amazing. Because, listen, I think there's a difference between the real thing and a dildo, right? Like, I mean, you've been fucked in the ass and pegged and stuff. But there's nothing like the real thing, don't you think? Oh, absolutely. Totally like a hundred times better. Yeah, totally. That's why like guys that get intimidated by girls toys like oh you use a dildo like it's not better than my cock it's like no it's not it's like apples and oranges it's two totally different things you know the real thing is the real thing you know so it was great for you yeah yeah it was wonderful and emma and brittney how was that for you with two guys did you fuck him too no we didn't fuck him i mean him you know had our turn as well

But, you know, it was great just supporting Emma. And at the time she was wearing a wig that just wasn't her style. And it was all in her face. And so I just kind of did a lot of hair holding and, you know, just kind of supporting and things of that. Yeah. Amazing. Okay. So it sounds like you've had other MMF threesome.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you did say in your email you like to be little. sluts together now. So we do. Yes. So we played with this guy like three weeks in a row. And the first two was just pretty much me bottoming for him.

And then the third time we both were penetrated and got to be sluts together on that one. So my wife finally joined in and she got to experience everything as well. meaning what everything like you fuck the guy like what is everything yeah so penetration you know i am a squirder so i uh definitely got to enjoy myself and that poor bed was done for oh my god and is this the same guy again yes okay the same the the the one that was top of the mountain yes and so and you all and was that fun for you emma that she was like more involved this time oh yeah yeah i like to see her get pleasure too It was, she, she was, she kind of let me, she kind of let me be the center of attention the first two time.

And so it was really nice to enjoy it with her. And so that guy was a three-time deal, right? Yes. Now have you had more guys that you've done that with? Yeah. So we, he just happened to go on vacation. We'll definitely see him again. but, you know, being on the Grindr app, and like, it's a lot of messages and dickpicks.

Can you believe so many guys are into it? Oh, my gosh. It's insane. Especially to keep them all straight. We've had to nickname them. Yeah. And I bet you they're all walks and like all shapes and sizes and walks of life. Like there's no rhyme or reason between the guys that are into this, right?

Like they're all different, right? Well, and there was the guy that earlier on the spring, it didn't work out. He was more of a daddy dom. and that intrigued us both. Because both are very submissive. And so we actually went out of town to his area about an hour, hour and a half away, got a hotel room, and he ended up getting a migraine. So it fell through.

And so, you know, at this point we're like, we don't know if you're real or fake, but he just happened to message us here a couple weeks ago. And, you know, he had us drooling, you know, just in the dirty talk and all the things. So we finally got to meet him out in public and realized, like, okay, like this sounds like a lot of fun. He's into rope play, things of that nature. So he came over. When we met, though, it was really hot.

We met at a restaurant and we're talking, and he's got us both, like, on the edge of our seats. We're so turned on. And I kind of told him that I was wearing the cage that I wear. And he's like, oh, my gosh, that is so hot. I got to see it. So he's like, asked me, would you mind, like, if we just go in the bathroom right quick.

And so, of course, yeah, absolutely. So he gets up, goes, walks in the bathroom. I follow behind him. And I get in there, I'm like in full in Emma mode. And he is. But presenting as my husband, he's in the male form. But he saw me as like Emma. He's like, on me, Emma, telling me, you know, I'm cute or whatever.

So it really helped. Yeah. And we go in the bathroom and I'm just like, oh my God, and he's cute too. And I just kind of unbuttoned and show him like what I was wearing. I was wearing panties in a cage. And he like gropes me and starts kissing me telling him so pretty and beautiful. And I'm just like melting, you know. So it was like super hot at the restaurant.

And then we planned for that weekend. And, you know, he comes, comes in and he has. two bouquets. So it was the first time that Emma got flowers. And I melted. Like the most girls would. Okay. Yes. And he brought champagne. Definitely the best experience we've had. You know, brought champagne really treated us like two ladies and we realized then like we enjoy sharing. We enjoy being in it together. So yeah. That was a great experience. He definitely like, especially for Emma really made my day because it was just always compliment. So like, oh my gosh, you were so pretty.

You're so beautiful. All the things that I'm looking for. So we're looking forward to doing that one again. Yeah, listen, I'm obsessed with you guys. I have a quick question because like what you just said made me think. Like, you know, Brittany, do you notice that your husband, now that he is used to being a girl sometimes? and understand what it's like to be a girl that your husband is actually much better,

you know, in the way he treats you. Like, does he compliment you more and buy you flowers more? You know, because like I would assume so because now Emma knows what girls like because Emma is a girl. I'm so glad you asked that question, Kathy. So absolutely. Yeah.

You know, it's before all of this, you know, my husband was, well, to be honest, was a husband. Yeah, a regular guy. It's like, instead of waiting on me getting ready, it's like, you know, you got five, ten minutes left. Now it's like, you take your time, you know, I understand what part of the process you're in now. Like, you know, I think gets it and understands it. And he's more receptive of, I, my love language is like cards and things of that nature. And so I get a lot of like cards and just appreciation. And so, yeah, most definitely. My husband seems to be more aware, if anything.

I would think so. You know, it makes sense because, like, Emma, you, you know, you like, like all the things that girls like, right? So it must be, like, kind of eye-opening in a way, right? Even if you wouldn't put it together to sort of experience your feminine side, see what it's like of what you like is very different than when you're in your male form, right? Like, do you give a shit about compliments, like, when you're a guy? No.

Exactly. No, no, but. I love the honesty. I don't care at all, but when you're a girl, there's so much effort you get in. And someone just appreciates it. Oh my gosh, you just melt. Yeah, see? So it makes sense that you would then, that that would be more like that when you're,

you know, Brittany's husband. I'm obsessed with you guys. Unfortunately, we have to wrap it up. But I feel like I would love to do more episodes. Like, like Emma, I do stuff. I mean, I'm going to talk to both of you, like what I would love to do with both of you. Like, Brittany, I would love to do. do an episode with you just for my Patreon, just like from a woman's standpoint that is so accepting

of like cross-dressing or an even just like, and also Emma, I would love to just get even your separate story of just being into cross-dressing for my Patreon if you ever want to come back on again. But this episode I want to post on my podcast because I want my whole audience to get, you know, my Patreon, it's a smaller thing, but I do exclusive episodes over there. But I think you guys would be great to give extra content over there. to my cross-dressors because you guys have such a unique and to me hopeful like situation for other people to hear about but i want this one on my podcast for my fetish fridays it's so great i love

your guys set up uh people are going to be obsessed with it can you i'm assuming you'll be able to send me some picks right anonymous picks okay like for my patreon and then for my discord i'll give you guys free access and then you could do whatever you want over there oh perfect yeah we would be down for any and all yeah and so for patreon you know R-rated picks, right? No face in it. But on my Discord, like that's a place where there's like thousands of people on there and you could do whatever you want over there of a guest channel as well as a cross-dressing channel, a lot of like fun things over there. And that's a place where people get to post the stuff themselves. So for Patreon, you'll have to send me the pecks and I'll put them up.

But for Discord, you'll be able to do whatever you want over there. And so get me pick sooner than later. I'm obsessed with this episode. My audience is going to love it. It's so unique. I know you said you listened to my show for years. Like, why did it take you so long to call in? What the fuck? Because we got great stories now. I don't know. You have great. The whole thing is great. Yeah. Were you going to say? Can I do a shout out? Like our ultimate fantasy now is to be like two sugar babies. So if there's anybody out there that, you know, is into all this and wants to be like a sugar daddy, we're open.

Oh, okay. Well, you could shout that out on my Discord. Okay. You can't sell anything or ask people. directly, but you could say you're looking for an arrangement. And I will put that in the intro. I'll tell people, make sure you listen to the end because they're looking for a sugar daddy, okay? Two little sluts looking for some sugar daddy. He's not going to be hard to find, I'm telling you, okay? Like, this is like what you guys are offering is like on a lot of guys like a bucket list.

Like as you know, because look at all the people hitting you up. Yeah. So, okay, so once you get the sugar daddy, you got to come back on. But like, let's also talk about you guys doing like some extra stuff for my Patreon. I would love that. Okay. Yes, please. All right.

Awesome. You guys are the best. Thank you so much for calling in. I love your episode. It'll be up soon. So get me those picks, okay? We'll do. All right.

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