Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 122 - Eric's Looking for Young Submissive Women

Episode Date: April 18, 2016

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I wrote a book, it's a cartoon book. It's all about my relationships from like my losing my virginity story all the way until I turned 40. And one relationship is like, worse than the other because I was never really good at relationship. So, you know, it's kind of a funny book. Well, it's definitely a funny book and it might make you feel better about yourself if you haven't been so great at relationships yourself. It's called the Cartoon Misadventures of a total

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and he's a dom, which means dominant and he's looking for a submissive. But he has his own different sort of take on how that works. It works just very different for him than it does for most people. I think the regular brownish guy that I've had on my show in the past sort of does it the way most people in that BDSM world do it. But he does things very differently. And we talk about that.

We also talk about his past. He was a musician. He got a lot of tail. He fucked a lot of girls. And he wound up in a lot of really interesting ways because he was pretty kinky at a very young age. So we get into all that. We hear a lot of cuckling stories for some reason.

He wound up getting solicited by men who wanted him to, you know, get it on with their wives. And so he did a lot of that. And he screwed a lot of older women when he was younger. And so we get into that kind of stuff as well. So I'll be right back on with Eric. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you.

Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is Strictly Anonymous. Strictly Anonymous. Hey, Eric, welcome Strictly Anonymous Podcast. You're on with Kathy. How are you? I'm all right.

How are you? I'm good. So you got to like refresh my memory because I think I went to try and look at your ad that you posted on Craigslist initially and I couldn't find it. But I know that you were looking online for like submissive women, right? I don't remember the specifics about that. So like maybe you could just explain. Sure. I was looking for the particular ad that you're talking about.

I was looking for submissive younger women. Mm-hmm. I think that was that particular ad was like 18 to 30 somewhere around there. Right. And how old are you? I just turned 40. Mm-hmm. Okay. And then when you said that particular ad, you have other ads.

What else do you look for in Craigslist? Like, what are your other ads about? Mostly the same thing. Mostly, I might reword it because I think the term submission really could really deter someone from answer an ad because of some of the stigmas that come with it. Yeah, but don't you think that, like, if you're really looking for a true submissive, Like I've had a bondage guy on my show a couple of times, the same guy, you know, and he's really hardcore into the lifestyle, right?

And he's explained it really well, right? Because there's a lot of propaganda out there that hold 50 shades of gray and people like act like they're really into the scene. But it's really not, right? But I would think that if some, if you're really looking for that kind of situation, right, like a real submissive, you know, and we'll get into what that means eventually. But that it would actually, if you're, you know, you should use that term. because if it turns somebody off, then it's good. It's like weeding out the bullshit, right? Like, that's what you want to do.

You don't want to get a girl in who's got, like, who's not interested in being submissive, and then you want to sort of tricker into it? Like, I don't understand. No, it's not a tricker into it kind of thing. I know what you're saying as far as, let's just put it out there, but it's actually, I'm more so looking for someone to develop into,

develop basically their feminine submissive side. So I don't, I don't, I prefer someone that doesn't have any experience or someone that doesn't have all the propaganda in their mind. That's kind of probably why you selected my ad because I kind of specified that in there that I'm looking for someone that just has an interest. Right. So you, are you, would you maybe even be interested in taking like an alpha female and changing that person? Are you looking like is it maybe more of a challenge to you that like you're looking for somebody? Absolutely.

Okay. So that might be the dominant. in you that wants to do that, right? That and the fact that, you know, I think, especially when you, it's funny you bring up an alpha female, I mean, these are my beliefs. I don't want to push them on anyone, but I'm pretty good. And I believe that biologically, we kind of have these biological roles

or these clocks or these machines inside of us. And I think sometimes the more alpha male is, especially during the day, you know, in her everyday job, some kind of go-getter or whatever. there's also a feminine side that's screaming, you know, to be developed or entertained or whatever. And especially for an alpha female, that's going to take a true alpha male to really bring that out. And I don't mean the fraud. I don't mean the ones that something alpha is not something you can just claim. You just either are or you aren't.

Totally. And sometimes it's a real. Like some people are very sort of, some women like they might seem like very alpha, but it's really like some sort of defense that they put on, right, to cover up some like intense weakness, right? Sometimes. So they come off as like, super strong, right? Possibly. Or life has just made them, you know, with today's age and the way that society is, you know,

there's a lot of women that run their household and run a lot of things on their own. Totally. Listen, the submissive, the bondage guy who called in here, and I've had a couple other guys that like to wear panties or that like to be a little bit submissive, like, for sure, they have brought up what you just stated, whereas they are like super sort of dominant in their regular life, right? They're the person ruling everything and doing everything, right? So that when it comes down to sex,

or they just want this one place where they could sort of be the total opposite, right? I see that in women now. My beliefs on men are different, but you have to understand. I'm a southern boy. I was raised, you know, southern. I was raised by my grandparents. So I have a lot of, as far as men go, I have a different traditional values. What do you mean?

That doesn't. For example, I don't mean that I obviously, I have a. feminine side. I'm, you know, I told you, I'm a musician. I'm all that kind of stuff. And even though I'm a dom and I have an erotic side and all that. I'm very in touch with my, with my emotions, I guess you would say, but me being a southern male, getting on to what you said, there is no, there's no space for like that kind of weakness. You understand? Not the way I was raised, not the way that I was groomed up to the point that I am. And I'm comfortable with that. Right. Oh, that's a southern thing? That's like a southern thing. Well, it's not just a southern thing, but I mean, it is,

it is kind of how, you know, the good old boy kind of thing. Right, like cowboys can't cry, don't cry. Yeah, but I do cry. That's what I'm saying. Well, you're a musician. Musicians are always more in time. I think creatives and music, you know, they're always. That's why I brought it.

One of the reason I said that. Absolutely. I think that's just in your genetic maker. Right. It just explained that I do have that side. I do have the passion. I do have the emotion. It took me, because of my.

bringing it took me a good 25 years of my life to really accept that as more of a strength and a weakness totally right i can imagine for men that's the way that it is you know women don't have to go through that but for a man yeah i mean like i think that a lot most men i would say 90% of men to feel the opposite you know what i mean they could really only experience one emotion and that's like anger right or that's really their bandwidth because everything else is attributed to like a feminine sort of emotion, right? Like, and if feminine is typically looked at for some reason as weaker, right? It's like a week.

Absolutely. For men. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, for a man to cry or to whatever, it is looked at. It's definitely looked down upon. So, yeah, it must be hard for guys like you who are more sensitive, right, and more in touch with their feelings to express that.

Well, or to be okay with it. Mm-hmm. I learned to use it to my advantage. I mean, I use it as a strength, and it makes me very good at what I do. I'm very good with women. I tend to be closer to women than I do men. And it makes me connect easier. So going back to what the topic is, that helps me in what I do is a dom.

Right. Now, have you been a dog? Like, first of all, let me just get a little background on your relationship history, though. So like you're 40, right? Have you ever been married? Yeah, I was married briefly at 18, divorced by 20, yes. Oh, God, yeah, that's not even, I don't know. Do you even count that?

Like, really married? No, I barely even remember it. No, I've never been married. Like, did you get married to that girl when you were, like, 18 because she was, like, pregnant or something? No, we have no kids together. No, I was, we were high school sweethearts, and there was a lot of pressure on us getting married. And, you know how it is when she was cheerleader. I was an athlete.

Mm-hmm. You know, y'all need to get married, and the next thing you know, I'm getting married, and I'm not happy, and neither is she. And that's the end of it. Yeah, thank God. You got out at 20. So, this is, like, to me, it doesn't even count. So since then, you've never been married. Now, how about, like, long-term relationships?

What's the longest relationship we've had? The longest relationship I've had is a nine-year relationship. And what age were you in that, really? Like, what age to what age? And how come that didn't lead to marriage eventually? I got into that relationship when I was about 27. I think it ended close to about 36, somewhere around there, 35, 36. And that didn't lead to marriage because I just, I'm not rigged that way.

I mean, I'm not a, I'm very comfortable being, but number one, let's back up. You got to, you got to remember, when I say I'm a professional musician, I actually am a real professional musician. So from the time I was 19 to about 27, whenever I decided that I went through a moment where it was like I want to settle down. I was on the road a lot. I was living in a different kind of lifestyle. You know, my lifestyle, a lot of it had to do with, you know, not getting anything stable. That whole entertainment is not very stable in itself. No, and also.

And also, isn't it really hard to be monogamous? Like, if you're like a musician, right, you're on stage, aren't there a lot of girls, like, throwing themselves at you? So, like, it's constantly, like, there's, like, a lot of hot women always sort of available, right? And isn't it hard to remain monogamous? Yes, it is very much so, especially once again backing up to the fact that I was a younger man. You know, I was, you know, 19 to 27. I mean, that's like your prime, I guess you would say. And I was not, I was not trying to be in anything longer than a two-day relationship.

Yeah, of course. You didn't have to, right? Just I think. No, I didn't. Yeah. And I think like years ago, I think what's the reason why there's like, I mean, I feel like younger girls nowadays can't even get in relation. And it's because like sex is very easy, right? All girls will sleep.

Like most women will sleep with a guy right off the bat. It's very easy. But in my time, I'm 47, right? You're 40. So you're a little bit behind me. But it's the same sort of generation. Like when I was growing up, I think that most men got in relationships because that was the only way they were going to get laid, right? Because most girls didn't sort of give it up.

I was super promiscuous when I was younger. But I was like a 10% or like I wasn't like the normal girl. You know, regular girls or normal girls or most of the women would. not have sex with a guy unless she was dating him. So guys had like no choice. So I think it was a lot easier to get in a relationship back then because guys kind of had to if they wanted constant sex, you know, whereas nowadays men can just get constant sex. So, you know, there's no reason for them to sort of buy into relationship.

So if you're a musician at that time, right, you didn't have that problem because you could get sex that, you know, at every gig, right, with a different woman. And variety is like, well, yeah. And that, yet you're very, you're very, everything you said is 100% my beliefs too. I preach about it all the time. You know, things have changed. I'm more of a, I like the chase.

So, you know, I enjoy, you know, it's different nowadays. Like you just said, it's so easy. And that kind of, that turns me off. Right. You like, right. And that's kind of like what you're doing at Craigslist, too. Like you even, when you see you enjoy the chase, it is the same way like you're going after like when you say,

I want to submissive, but somebody that really isn't sort of in touch with it so you could bring it out. That's the same kind of chase, right? You're looking to sort of be the one person who could get that girl to sort of switch around, right? Yeah, pretty much, yes. I get a, the story is, I get a lot of pleasure out of, maybe it's a male ego thing or whatever,

but I like to, I get, I like to be that one person that really, that's why I like the younger ones that are in experience, because I like to be that one person that showed them something, you know, that actually, and it's kind of like, I'm 40 now, so it's kind of like reliving some of my past through them, you know, I've had so many experiences. It's been really, I've lived the life

that most men would dream about. You mean with lots of women? Like how many women do you think about? 2,500? I honestly, I honestly couldn't fathom. I could not even pick a number, to be honest with you,

because there was a time where I completely lost count. I mean, you got her stand sometimes two and three a night. Now that doesn't mean, that means at the same time. Right, right.

No. No, not how long to make sound just jumping. To the point where I had to put myself in check and, you know, Right about that time when I got in that long-term relationship, I actually went abstinent for about four months because I was like, wow. It was too much.

Yeah, and I wasn't getting nothing out of it. I mean, I wasn't getting nothing out of it. I couldn't orgasm. Really? But that was after like years and years of you getting as much ass as you could, right? Like in just having as many women as you wanted, right? I feel like a lot of men couldn't understand that or what, you know, but I feel like, you know, it kind of makes sense that if you're like, you know, know that way.

Well, you get whoever you want, you know, after a while. Let's go back to what, yeah. Let me go back to what I said originally. You have to understand.

I do, I'm an extremely emotional person. So what happened was I disconnected from any type of emotional, you know, you learn that anyway because people come and go to daily. Yeah. But it gets to the, it got to the point where, okay,

doing this because I can. Right. You know what I mean? I'm not doing it. You know, just it's there. I never got, as a messy musician.

I never got into drugs. drugs I got into women. Totally. That was like your addiction. Pretty much, but I had, I was, I've been like that since I've always been hypersexual since I had to get puberty, you know. Maybe, maybe because it goes back to one of the questions, you know, of why I'm a dom or why, when this started, which is a question he asked while ago, you know, maybe because my

development was so young, you know, I've always, that's just what I've been into, you know, women. So I got to a point where I was really honest. feeling nothing. I was numb. It was like I was drug, even though I never really did drugs. Right, right, totally. And that's when you met this one woman who, you wound up,

you know, you wound up in a long-term relationship with her for nine years. Were you monogamous to her through those nine years? For the majority of it, but at the end of it, I started getting, I started straying. But that's pretty good for somebody like you to go. For me, yeah. No, totally. That's a long time.

You know. How come you never want to marry her? I don't even, I really wasn't even in love with her. It just kind of, I needed something. I mean, I wasn't. I really wasn't. That poor girl. I hope she's not listening.

Did you never told her, hey, by the way, I was never really in love with you? Yes, I have. We have children together. Oh, you do? So I see her regularly. She probably does. We're fine. We're good friends.

Yeah, that's cool. I mean, at some point. So you don't think you were ever really even in love with her? I mean, not that I, not that I think. I mean, maybe a brief moment when my son was born. I think there was some happiness there, but, you know, there was a lot of instability on her behalf. After the kids? And I'm a very stable.

Right, right. After the kids? Actually, the kids actually made her stable. I ended up, yeah, I ended up basically she had a lot of issues. She had a lot of drug addict and things like that, but I wasn't happy with. Yeah. Sometimes it's interesting, right, because you say, oh, she's, She was totally unstable and I'm a very stable person.

And like you had mentioned, you never did drugs and she totally did drugs. And it's like interesting when, you know, people that are so opposite wind up connecting, right? There's lessons there to be learned from both sides. But, you know, anyway. Right. So when did you get, when did you lose? Like, you say you had like sort of an early experience. Like you started really young and you were really sexually active.

Like, I mean, when did you lose your virginity really early? Like, how old were you when you lost your age? Oh, I would say early because I lost it at 13. Okay. And when did you start jerking up? I just have to ask you this because I've had a couple guys on here recently who tell me they didn't jerk off until they were like 17 and I thought that's like really weird. Don't guys start jerking up like super early? Like is that, isn't that late?

Yeah, I think that's really weird. Yeah, me too. One thing I'm going to tell you the truth because I'm a realist and I like, it is what it is. Yeah. I had sex before I ever jerked off. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.

I was, uh, and nowadays, nowadays she'd probably go to jail for it. But at the time. consider? Yeah, right? No, she was well, yes and no. She was my friend, she was older sister. How old was she? She was, I want to say 18 and I was 13. Okay.

And she seduced to? Yes, absolutely. What happened? Like, how did that go down? I had to, I was staying, you know, during the summer and I was staying in the night at his house and that was kind of a regular thing at that time. You know how it is. You have friends some summers

from not the next. Yeah? And he had a sister, and I never, the way I was raised, I never really looked at her that way. You know, I was still going through puberty and all that. And I was raised with a lot of respects. I didn't go to people's houses and stare at their wives or sister. You know what I'm saying? You also hadn't even jerked off, right? No, I hadn't done that yet.

Right. I'm not saying I wasn't noticing things, but I guess what started it was, just to be flat on us with you. We were staying up later than probably, you know, it was late. I'm guessing to midnight or one o'clock and, you know, whatever. And I hardly ever seen his sister. She stayed in her room. She was that age where she was in her room and all that. And she had, we had, we had, she had channeled through to a cinemax flick.

And it was him, him that did it. No, it was me and him. You know, boys typically do this. You know, they'll go look at, well, things have changed now. But in our day, the most you could see on TV on regular cable would be like breasts. Right. At that time, I thought a vagina was a hairy triangle. You know, because they didn't.

You know what I'm talking about. Totally. Yeah. But I'd never actually seen the anatomy of a female that way because that's pretty much how it had to inflict it in all the magazines and all that. So anyways, she came in there and she's like getting on to us, but she's also looking back now, I guess she was also turned on. I didn't know that at the time.

And we're watching the thing, and she's all getting on to us, but I'm wearing some loose shorts that I have a heart on. Right. And she's, of course, she's like, gross, you know, gross. And I'm kind of scared because I'm like, dude, don't tell your dad. You know, I can't control it. You know, it just happened. And she's all gross and throws a pillow at me. And, you know, and long story short, you know, everybody goes about their way.

But I stay awake and I'm playing video games and all that. And she comes out and they have a pool. and she asked me if I'd like to go swimming and I was like it's like two three three o'clock in the morning I was like you know and she's like it doesn't matter we can you know and I was she's like she's got to be quiet so I didn't really think nothing you know honestly I didn't totally right and I went to go swimming we're going off swimming I'm being quiet and she next thing you know she kind of swims up and takes off her top well at that time like I said I was sort of innocent don't I mean breasts were like you know the best thing ever right and now there's really really

real life, like right in front of you. Right. So she, you know, of course, she has me suck on on things like that. And before I know it, you know, I'm a wreck. She's got her bottoms off and she's straddling me in the pool. And from that point on, I mean, this is where it gets kind of funny because she starts, I want to say she's overacting. I don't know, but she's, you know, pretty much riding me in the pool.

And she starts getting loud. You got to be there's 3 o'clock at night. Right, right. morning, yeah, mm-hmm. So in her parents' room's right there. So my, I mean, instant fears, I'm not really enjoying it because instant fear's kicking in, like, oh, my God, I'm getting trouble, you know. Yeah, yeah.

Parents are going to wake up. And she's going at it, and I know that I, I think I came like, I want to say twice, if not three times before she got off. Mm-hmm. And, you know, I was fresh. Yeah, I can. And, uh, so I didn't really know what was happening. Now, I did, I did like it, of course, but I was also, they were just scared at the same

time, you know. And she got, she pretty much got off me and got dressed and said, go inside. And then, of course, she said, don't tell nobody. And she was really a bitch about it. But I understand women a lot better now. And I did then. So funny. But that was the first, you know, that was the time.

Next thing you know, you know, I don't understand this girl. I mean, this particular girl, I think she was pretty much just in heat. Right. Because apparently some situations happen. I say that again. Are you well? hung? I'm above average.

I'm about eight inches and thick. Right, because I was thinking maybe like she saw, you know, when you said you were hard, like maybe it would look very bit. You know what I mean? Like me and it got more like some. Well, probably so, yeah, because I was in like some gym type shorts, you know. So it was loose. Right.

So I'm guessing. And I don't know at that time. You know, boys don't really know how, boys don't really know how hung they are until women tell them. I mean, in reality. because we really don't know at that age. We don't know what we're packing or what we're not. Right.

How do you know? Because especially at that age, I mean, in that time period, right, just as much as you could never see women naked, you didn't see other men naked either, right? Because there wasn't porn on the internet, right? Like, we didn't have that. So we didn't know those things. I totally get it. So you didn't know that you were sort of big compared to other men. Yeah.

And it's really for a man, especially a young man, it's very, I don't think women understand that how much pressure it is, you know, because number one, obviously, if we could, we're men, if we could build our own, we'd have the largest one around, you know. Of course, right. There's nothing we can control on that. There's a lot of pressure on, damn, am I hung? Am I not? You know, am I a real man? Am I not?

You know, and it's, we don't really know. And it's usually, which is why especially insecure men will constantly ask their lover or, you know. Yes. whatever, but I, you know, I'm going to tell you like this. If you're, if you're above average, women are they're going to tell you. Yeah, they're going to, exactly. You know, if they may not, I'm not one that has to solicit anything. They're going to, they're going to say something to me.

Right. So you eventually found out that you were well hung because women said stuff, because eight inches and thick is definitely above average for a white. Yeah, I found out, I found out that I was, that I was, I was pretty good there from my, my, going back to the original topic of this from my first, I guess you would say, real lover because after that incident, well, you know, a couple of, I think two years went by before I actually had any more activity, but I ended up dating the girl two houses down so the entire summer we had sex eight times a day.

How old was she? Was she around your age? She was the same age as me. I ended up, you know, I think that's probably the only reason I dated her because she liked me a whole lot and she was available and I heard she was like to do that. Yeah, she was really horny. Yeah, so that was pretty much my, that was my 10th grade or 9th grade summer going into 10th grade was sex eight times a day all summer long.

That's great. So it helped me build ten minutes. So then I get to high school and I have my girlfriend and at that age, you know, they're not, here I am, you know, taking 15, 20 minutes and then they just can't, they can't stand it. what too long or too short uh too long at that time you know i was i was kind of started getting to be known because i was real popular in school and all that kind of stuff but i was getting to be known your good little what do you consider yourself or what do people say you are as far as my looks yeah i would say i'm very modest so i'd say probably a seven i don't really know okay i know that i've

never I've always had a I've always had attractive women mostly extremely attracted women most of my life but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that I'm shallow it just means that's just you know what I go for the top I'm what can I say I'm not kind of man anyway I think all guys do even fours go for you know 10s I've seen it all the time well yeah I don't think you should I mean if you're a real man you should aim for the main for the mountain you know well I think you should fish in your own league I don't know I think it's hilarious when guys who are fours are trying for tens or they're being like super judgmental about women that are overweight and they're like, you know, twice her size and so let's want to get on that. So you're super popular in high school, right?

So you, you know, you're getting a lot of ass and a lot of tail. When did you realize that you're into this whole submissive thing? Okay. You're going to love the story. Yeah. What happened was I was, you got to remember, I'm a natural alpha male. Like, I didn't know all this yet, but I'm a natural walker. You know, I was an athlete.

So how this started was, I was at a completely different friend, but this is a friend that I actually grew up, his parents grew up with my parents, that kind of thing. And this was my junior, my senior year in high school. We were playing football at one of his family parties. And his aunt took a notice of me. You know, I've always known her because she grew up with my parents. Once again, back up.

My mom was 15 when she had me. So the age difference is only about 15 years. Right, right, right. That's why you were raised by your grandparents, because remember you said that I was wondering. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I was raised to my grandparents. And so anyways, this woman, she's very, very attractive, 37 years old,

business woman type, you know, the type of women we were talking about earlier. Businesswoman type. And I never looked, I mean, I knew she was very attractive, but I never really looked at her like that once again because of my upbringing. And anyways, I got my shirt off. I'm ripped. You know, I'm a former boxer, athlete, all that kind of stuff. So I'm throwing, we're playing football, and I got my shirt off, and I'm ripped up.

And I go over there, get something to drink, and she stops me, and she says, you know, something along the lines of me turning out to be a really handsome young man kind of thing. Of course, I thanked her. I didn't think it was flirting. I thought it was just an adult compliment. Yeah. How old was she going? She was like 37.

I was 17. Okay. Go on. And so anyways, you know, I'm playing football. And she, at the end of the day, you know, there was a party. So she was, there was drinking, not us, not the under, not the kids, but the adults and all that. And we were getting ready to leave. I was getting ready to leave.

And she asked if she comes up to me and she said, that's if I could take her home because she'd been drinking. Mm-hmm. And I was like, yeah, you know, yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, I sure can, you know. Ma'am, right. At this point, she is a ma'am to you. Right, right, because I did not, and once again, I had to stress. I didn't go around at that time. I had different kind of respect. Right. You know, even if I thought she was attractive, which I did think she was really pretty,

I wouldn't sit there and, like, Google over. Right. You didn't think you got the chance to, like, banger. Exactly. I didn't think there was any chance there. I didn't know. I was really a high-eat-old at that time. Yeah, because we don't remember. Like, when you're younger and you're that age, 37, I mean, she might as well have been 67. Like it seems so much older, right? Like, I mean, when you're that age, it doesn't feel old.

But, like, when you're young, like, anyone over 30 just seems like, you know, way older. She probably just seemed like a quote-up to you. I will say this. I will say this at her being 37, though. She's a former pro-Chateer, pro-NFL cheerleader. Right. So she looks great. So she was in really good shape. Yeah, she looked great.

Oh, yeah, please. And nowadays, nowadays, at 50, they look great. Right, exactly. And I agree with you. I'm 40 and I'm seeing, exactly. But anyways, then, you know, you know, So, yeah, you know, even though I noticed that she was a very beautiful woman, I didn't think I ever had a chance, and I thought if she caught me looking at her, I'd be ashamed by my family. Because, you know, like I said, once you're growing up on that old school mentality, you know, that's disrespectful to the family to do something like that.

So she asked me for a ride home, and she was a little buzzed. And when I got there, you know, she's like, well, you know, she just kind of started ordering me. She was come in. And I was like, okay. Yes, ma'am. I came in there and she was gone She was gone a while Like I'm standing in the living room

I just kind of never been to her house before And I'm staying in the living room And I thought I heard the water She's in there showering And And so she comes By the time she comes out of the shower She comes out

She's kind of being a bitch And she's like comes out and just I mean she is She comes out of the shower She's drying her hair And she's got like just a t-shirt on And I'm noticing that I'm trying not to

I'm putting my head down No bra. And she's like, no, no bra, no, no pain, nothing just a shirt. And she has big tits, like she has big boobs? Yes, yes. The teeth, she's probably five to 110 pounds, big breaths, shin shape, goes a gym daily, that kind of thing. Right. And, uh, and she's like, she just starts being a bitch.

She goes, you stink. She goes, go, go shower or something. Mm-hmm. And I was like, wow, I mean, I really like, I've got self-conscious, you know, damn, I stink, you know? Right. So I just did what she said. And I'm like, I know this makes me sound so naive. And I even tell them the story makes me sound nice.

I didn't know nothing was up. I'm just like, damn, man, I'm that foul. So I'm more embarrassed. No, I kind of know men. And men are kind of dumb. Sometimes you got to, like, knock them over the head with shit sometimes. Like, so a lot of, I get that, you know, I think a lot of guys get that. That's how guys are.

Like, a lot of times they don't really know when a girl really likes them or girls going after them. And, yeah, so she said, I got you a towel in there and all that. so I go in there and I take a shower and I come out you know I dress and all that and she's I mean she's very demanding I walk in the living room which is where she was at yeah and she's putting her hair in it she's putting her hair in a ponytail

and she said uh basically she goes I mean flat out she goes she goes well take your shorts off and sit on the couch and she's like I'm a suck your cock she's going to read to it right I'm like I mean and she's like and if you fucking tell me she's telling me if you tell anybody she goes I'm going to deny it you know, and it's never going to happen again and all the other stuff.

And I'm just kind of like, okay, you know. And I'm really nervous and shy, you know. Yeah. So, you know, with her. Now, in my age group, no, I'm not shy. Of course, because she's a way older woman. Yeah, absolutely. Of course.

I think any guy would be at that age. At that time, you know, that was my first real blow job. Mm-hmm. I'm talking like, you know, at that time, something you said while ago in our age group, I mean, yeah, if you took a girl to prom, she might give you a little head to get you hard. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You know? Right.

Everything's changed now. Now it's like shaking hands. Hey, let me blow you. Yeah, totally. Mm-hmm. It's completely different. But anyways, so, yeah, that was, that was, and that became my, by the way, that became my oral fixation and my fascination to this day. I'm a real man.

What? Blow job? So, oh, yeah, I'll take that over anything every day. Oh, interesting. Mm-hmm. Did she swallow? But, uh, yes. Mm-hmm.

Let me ask you this, because I've done this jizz quiz with people before really quickly. Do you like to jizz in a girl's face? Just yes or no? Because I want to get back to the story. I think no. Yes. Yes, if it turns her on. Right, but does it really turn you on?

Only it's, okay, look, there's an eagerness. Look, I'm telling you like this from giving many facials, especially a lot of women, a lot of women like the open mouth facials. Especially the submissives, right? There's this, yes. There's this look in their eyes, like this thirst. I don't think it's necessarily for come. I think it's for the man. Right.

And there's a thirst in their eyes. Right. You think it's the man. Yeah, I think it's something else. But I think you thinking it's for the man is, of course, then going to be the turn on. Maybe that's a projection. Maybe it's my ego. Yeah.

Maybe it's projected. Whatever it works for everyone. So who cares. Okay. So go on. No. I want to say this, though. If it's something that you don't like, no, because it turns me off.

Totally. I can imagine. I have an ego. I want to be the, my goal is to be the absolute best person to ever touch you. So doing something like that goes against my belief system of making you do something you don't want to. Because I want you to be submissed.

I mean, I want you to come to me because you can't stop yourself. Mm-hmm. You want to be like the best? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That totally makes sense. Not because I'm sitting,

not because I put my foot on your back and push you on the ground and tell you to. No, that's not, that's not real power. Real power is controlling you, but just because of who I am. But you want the person to like it. Like that's, there's power. Absolutely. So, right. So she gives you like the best blow job ever, right?

Oh, yeah. She didn't. Yeah. This wasn't, this wasn't, she was savoring. You know, this wasn't a blow job. I don't know what she was doing. She was thirsty for it. Mm-hmm.

Anyways, she blows me, literally turns around. First of all, one of the things she, one of the first thing she told me, the first time I'd ever heard of some of life, she told me I had a really nice cock. Right. Mm-hmm. I never knew that at the time. I mean, she was the first one to tell me, and she was like, really nice. She's like pretty.

I didn't know it pretty, man, but when you hear that several times in your life, you Yeah, but anyways, so the soon as she does that, she turns around and inserts me in her. So she's reversed cowgirl pretty much. I'm on the couch. And she rides me until she gets off a couple times. I think I came three times. And she gets off and says, all right, she goes, at that time, you remember we had pagers. Yes.

So she asked for my pager number, and she said, when I page you, she said, you can come over. Right. She was, you were like her booty call. Basically, get dressed. Yes, she said, get dressed and leave. I mean, she was a real bitch about it. So, you feel like this. So, you know, of course, she takes me a couple days later. I come over. Same scenario. She blows me, swallows, rides me backwards. Wait, does she tell you you smell? Does she tell you smell when, does she insult you when you come in to make you take a shower? Oh, no, not the next time. It was because I was playing football.

Right, right. Okay, cool. So the same thing. The same thing goes down. Same thing for the next couple times. I mean, so anyways, and then she starts to actually talking to me. And she starts telling me, look, this is what I'm attracted about you. And she said, you know, that day when you're playing football, you walked around.

It's like men moved out of your way, even bigger men. You know, they moved out of your way because I'm not a huge guy. I mean, I'm only 5'8 foot eight. I'm actually on the shorter side. And I'm about two. I'm about 220. No, I am pretty muscular. But I still have my little chub, too.

You know, I'm 40 years old. Right. But, you know, for me being not the biggest guy out there, you know, they would move around and when I was walking. That's my natural demeanor, though. I do that in business, which is what I do during the day and all that. I'm just that kind of personality, you know. I accept who I am at this age. And that's what she noticed about me was the fact that I was a natural leader.

And she said that you're a teacher. She told you the first person to tell me that you're a Dom. I didn't know what the hell of Dom was. I'm 17 years old. Right. And she told me that she was actually, that submissive and started telling me about it and explaining, and she's like, here's what I want you to do.

She's like, you know, basically she told me this shit's yours, this body, this mouth, anything you want. But she's like, you know, but you got to take it like a man, that kind of thing. She's like, basically it's not yours until you claim that shit. Right. Until you take charge of until you own it. And she's like, if you're going to own it, she goes, and she told me, she goes, I want to feel like you own it. Not just that I'm giving it to you. So, you know, I didn't get that at first, but I started, it naturally started taking over to the point.

Remember, I told you she was really petite. So at first, you know, so she said from now on, you're not going to, you know, until you make me basically dripping wet from your presence. She goes, you're not getting shit. Right. No longer, like you just walk down when you get a blowjob, right. The table's turned. Right. You had to get her off, right.

Mm-hmm. So, you know, I would I was a little clumsy at first, I'll admit. You know, I was clumsy at first, but then she would sit there and tease me and then she'd be like, no, now you put your pants on the leave, and I wouldn't even get off. So the next thing you know, I'm going home and masturbating. Mm-hmm.

You know, because she would, she was, she knew what she was doing. Right. She was training you for what she was into. Pretty much. And finally, I said, you know what, fuck this shit. You know, I went over there, and I said, fuck it. And I just started, I started to handle her.

I don't mean in a rough way. Mm-hmm. I just kind of, you know, just, started saying, you know, and before you know it, I'm taking her and, you know, I don't know what happened, to be honest with you. Something happened inside me was more carnal, you know, it was more desire, it was more need. It was just, I started basically owning it like it was mine. Right.

Like what she wanted. When she started saying, yeah, when she said that, you know, she said, well, you're not getting anything. And I just kind of went up behind her and said, I don't think you have a choice. And that's what she wanted. I've really never dialogue. Yeah. Next, next thing you know.

you know, from that point on, it became an eight, like somewhere around an eight months. Mm-hmm. A fair deal where pretty much I would walk in and make commands and she would follow suit and she, you know, enjoyed it. Right. And you realized you enjoyed it too, I'm assuming, like that role. Oh, yeah. I realized, I realized this was meant for me.

I mean, I realized this is like I never felt more alive, you know? Mm-hmm. And it wasn't about the sex. It was about the, it was about, I think, if you want to get Freudian on it, I think it was. I think it was her, you know, I started seeing infatuation in her with me. Right. It was about getting her to really like you. Yes, this woman who has been, you know, has been in the world longer than me,

who has obviously had more experience than me. And I don't care how many experience she's had. I know that when I made her come, you know, that it was true. It was honest. And whenever she would look, whenever she would, you know, suck on me, whatever, it was like true desire, you know, want to need. For you specifically. Mm-hmm. And that made you feel good.

Yeah, and I loved it. Yes, I loved it. And that's what you got probably addicted to, is getting that kind of fit, pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah, and I had some negative downfalls from that, and, you know, because I kind of got a little careless with it,

because it is a power once you learn it. Mm-hmm. How did you get some negative consequences? Some of the downfalls to how I was, you know, I start getting lovers, you know. I'm, number one, I'm in entertainment industry, and then I was also a dancer at clubs. I just had a lot of access to women.

And my personality was I'm very flirting naturally and all that. So when I did have sexual, you know, I started doing the same thing that I've always done. But it's, I have the ability to connect with women. It's, I can not know you. Like, never met you, just have a look and we're, you know, physically, a physical attraction. And I can touch you like, probably better than a lover that you've had for years. you're sort of in tune with what a woman would want. I think that's an energy thing.

It is because I believe exactly. I believe in intuition, energies and things like that. And I can actually feel, this is very weird. I can actually feel the energy of a woman, you know, the heat, the energy, the things. And it's kind of the power because you kind of know what they want before they know what they want. Oh, yeah, that's probably makes you a really good lover. I think that, like, it's the reason why some women give better blowjubs and others are same with guys going down, because they're sort of in tune.

People are sometimes, if you're really that kind of sensitive, you're in tune of what the person wants and you just kind of know it, right? And I've been with them like that. I totally get it. And the problem is, and this is me saying this being very, I'm a very modest man, but I am a very good lover. And that being said is, that being said is that creates a lot of problems. And because then women can confuse, yes,

they can get confused with sex or a moment with some type of natural love, But don't get me wrong, because I am a romantic in a way. I can't say that in those moments there wasn't love being. Yeah, but it's being too little. It's too philosophical. Yeah, but they didn't want. Listen, you didn't even love the woman you were with for nine years. Have you probably, like, so that maybe you've never been in love with anybody.

I have momentary moments of love. I believe my romanticism is a day-to-day basis. Right. Okay. Listen, I've never been in love with a man, but that's because I have issues. I mean, like, you know, but I just think that. Maybe I have issues. Yeah.

Who knows, right? But I mean, because you said you, but maybe you were in love with that. I don't know. I don't want to get so much into that past relationship though I would one day. Yeah. I mean, for nine years, you really never loved her. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to get divert from what we're really discussing.

But so you have moments of, yeah, women are always think like, oh, if he really likes me sexually, like that means he really likes me. They don't get that it doesn't mean that. And I've been there. I'm a woman. Like, you can't help it. It's a very different thing. You know, men and women are wired very differently.

Well, that's where the problem comes in all the time. and let me tell you where my power came in is what I was taught by this woman. And it's just basically, if I'm with you, whether I, even if it was some groupie on the road, you know, the power is to enjoy her, not the holes on her body. Well, that's like a true womanizer. True womanizers really like women, too, right? Like they're just, let's like. I adore women, love women. Do you probably be considered more, more of, instead of a player.

more of a womanizer. That's another type that exists. And I think women get really confused by womanizers. I don't know if you ever heard. You know the difference? Yeah, they like women. Let me tell you the difference. Here's the difference.

I think that from a woman's perspective, the difference between a womanizer, I guess I don't like that turn because it makes they sound demonizing. But let's do, I'll go with it. The difference between a womanizer and a player is, is when things end with the women and me, it's a little bittersweet. Mm-hmm.

You understand? And I don't have a lot of enemies as far as women go. Right. I'm not going to tell you there hasn't been any because there has been some bad endings to things. But for the most part, per Kappa, I have very good relationships or we've parted ways with hugs, you know. And I'd like to think that there's no animosity. My last guy was a womanizer. Listen to Dr. Guy's a total womanizer.

I've had him on like three. Now the most recent one was Dr. Guy is a total Cokehead. But like he's having a midlife crisis. But, you know, he's a total womanizer. And I feel sometimes sorry because I'm still friends. with him like you say. I didn't end things badly because he wasn't a player douchebaggy, but he was a total womanizer.

But it's their sweet, ain't it? Yeah, but I feel sorry that it's not true and that it doesn't really exist. Like, too good to be true is definitely like the model for those guys. But I think that a lot of women, until you've experienced a guy like that, you really don't, you know, you could really be taken for a ride because you really don't realize, you know, there's something about it that doesn't make sense, right? It's like you, like, even like you saying, like, yeah, I was weather, but I never loved her. It's like, you know, these guys, womenizers will do all these things that, like, typically, like, would mean something, right, for somebody else.

But with a womanizer, it kind of doesn't. And you could do it with, like, tons of women. And I think that is very confusing to women. So they always fall for womanizers, right? I think so, too. And I think what womenizers, yeah. You know what makes the worse? What makes me worse is?

Yeah. I'm honest. So. Oh, that's what a doctor guy is, too. I think all what womenizers are. No, it makes it better for you. It's better for you. Well, from the very beginning, I'm honest.

I tell them, look, this is what I am, this is what I do. You know, I will enjoy you. Like, I'll tell them, if this was to move forward, you know, I will truly be enjoying you. You know, I'll make you feel this, make you feel that. But don't get caught up in the moment and think it's anything beyond that because you're not first, you're not the last. Right. But every woman, just like you like that challenge, every woman's going to hear that.

They want that challenge. I know. They want to be the one, right? I mean, it's just human. I think it's human nature, right? And so I doctor guy has the same sort of way. When I was younger, I was very much a player. I wasn't interested in dating one guy.

And I would do the same thing with guys. I would tell them straight up like, you could have sex with me, but like, please don't even bother liking me because I will not be into you. Like blah, blah, blah. You know, and I would get guys like obsessed with me. But I was very honest with it. And people would be like, how do you keep all these guys in your life? It's like because I'm totally honest with them.

So nobody could ever hate me because I wasn't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. Right. So I made, I had really good friends. And I had everything that I wanted. because I was honest. And I think being honest when you're that kind of way is always a good move, right? And always helps the situation. Dr. Guy goes in the same way.

And I think that that's actually really smart. And that's what you do too. But it is a, you know, on some level, I think womanizing men have low self-esteem. And like, they really are very needy of women liking them. So they do everything they can to get women liking them. But there's really no, it's not a two-way street, right? It's not like the man is just sort of taking. I mean, and that's like more to analyze you, right, and like maybe your sort of issues.

I'm self, I'm old enough and most more aware of myself to realize that I probably have some, you know, obviously you heard the beginning that I was, my mother was 15 when she had me. We have a relationship. We don't have a great relationship. So, you know, I've read enough, I'm educated enough and I've read enough Freud to understand that I do need a certain way. Yeah. And I get that. And, but to dwell, that's kind of like, but listen. That's like us talking about space and galaxies and all that.

Exactly. I mean, I love to do that kind of stuff on this show, but like I get, I've already done the womanizer thing. So we don't need to focus on it. You know what I mean? To me,

it's more interesting that like you sort of put these ads on Craigslist and you spend a lot of time like looking and creating these, you know, and I think other people find that stuff interesting too, right? Looking to find, you know, to set up these submissive dominant relationships. Yeah.

The reason is, let me, let me, you know, this is important here is I have to stress. that as you can tell, I hope you can tell, I'm pretty outgoing. I'm not shy. You know, I've always been the kind of guy when I am on the prow.

I go out by myself. I work better alone than I do with friends. And I go for the top, you know, I'm, I don't do that too much anymore. I'm too old for that shit, but you know what I mean. Let me ask you this about your band, because I know musicians, right? And a lot of them, maybe they could be sort of very successful, like when they're younger, because they're very successful in their town or in their city, right? but like did you ever reach a success with your band or your music like that was like you know sort of really major and you're still doing that or like what was the extent of it or does still go on do you how you make your money think up I know I have no I'll tell you that I peaked about 10 years ago and that was totally I was in the same band for 16 years and I got we got signed very young I played with people that you've heard of you probably never heard of us but I got to go on tours I went to uh I even went to New Zealand in Australia

but that's my peak that's it now I do it for fun now I spend more money than I make I still do it but I love it and just no I don't mess with groupies or anything like that anymore just in case you know I'm over all that right but you still enjoy that sort of you're still like a hundred I love me I love I love music right but you still love women and now you go instead of absolutely out how many well yeah to answer your question as far as let me go back what I was saying is I've been once I knew that I was a dom and started getting all that you're talking 20 years ago 20 20 plus years ago there wasn't this you know there wasn't this two margaritas and I'm a dom or I'm a sub or a lesbian thing going on like it is now you know it was very underground and I started going to these parties and secret clubs and I'm in a big metropolis city one of the largest in the country and so there were these underground things and stuff like that and it was different you know I I I I like some of them. There's a lot of it I didn't like.

Right. But I did get to understand the terminologies and understand that there are extremists and in both directions, you know. And I kind of got to feel for it and I had some experiences and took those experiences and kind of developed to who I am as a Dom. I don't, I don't think there's not, there's no, regardless of what you read in 50 shades or any that dumb shit, you know, there's no doctrine. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's, we're not all the same. And I hate that because that's why. I said, you know, some of my ads, I don't put the word submissive because that could be scary. And then some I do because there's people that are particularly looking for submissive to be submissive.

But you can't, I guess what I'm trying to say is I can't go to the bar and have a drink and then slide up to someone and go, hey, you're you submissive or you want to be submissive? You know, I could, but I'll be psycho. Yeah, and I think, don't you think that this is still like a kind of like an underground world and it's like, you know, there's other places where like those kind of people exist, like on websites or they have special parties. like you said, you went to certain clubs, you know, where, you know, so that you know that, like, this is, you know, these people are into it because maybe if you're in a regular bar, you might scare somebody off by doing that because it's more like a fetish still. Yeah, and the problem is when I went to those clubs and stuff, you got to remember, I started early. You know, I'm in my early 20s, not to mention, not to mention I'm 40 and I look like I'm 30 now.

Right. So I've always been very young looking. Uh-huh. And even then, I looked like a kid. I looked so young that my success wasn't a successful. So it was more so, God, there's a whole story I could tell you, but my success at that time was more so just other types of men, you know, the cuckold couples wanting to see, you know, their wife was somebody. And you did that? And that's a whole other section part being in music.

Oh, God, that's a whole other section in music. Yeah. Yeah, let me tell you, guys, like, I said this a million times in my podcast, but like, yeah, I got to tell you that, like, when I look at the analytics for my podcasts, the ones where the guys are into watching their girls. all fuck other guys is like the most listened to it's the most it's a big fantasy for guys it's a big deal man most of a lot of my stuff in music once again i'd get off subject was a lot of husbands i guess because it's safe because i was in entertainment and i don't want their wife and all that kind of thing man i always knew what was going to happen because they would always walk up as a couple and the guy was always a smiling type what you would call probably a metrosexual i'm not i'm not

a metro yeah yeah i mean i'm not over i'm not trying to say that's the only only ones, but I could always tell them, I thought, here it goes. Right. And then what would go down? Yeah. Tell you it's a good set. You know, great. We love your bands. Great set and all that. And, you know, my wife really like to let us buy you a shot. And, man, what do you think of my wife? And you always know where it's going. But you got to remember, I'm a real Dom. So here's what I learned to deal with that. So what I would do is, you know, if I was attracted to the wife, one of the first things I would tell is her body language is she's into it.

Because I've been in situations where it was more the husband and not the wife. Right, right. And you don't like that. I would decline. No, I don't like that. So if I could tell about the body language, and actually that worked in my favor one time to where she ended up really wanting me because I didn't pursue it.

Yeah. But anyways, I would tell by body language, and I would, you know, at first I was totally against it. But then, you know what? I'm a little devious. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to show this man a lesson. Number one, he shouldn't be letting any, I mean, I guess because the kind of man I am,

you should never be sharing your wife. That's my opinion. Sorry, listeners. That's just the kind of man I am. I'm not letting anybody touch what's mine. Right. You know, I don't play well with others. I'm an alpha male.

Right, right. You're the opposite of that. Right. So it's like, you know, you're going to punish him. You want me to fuck your wife. I'm going to fuck her better than you. Well, I'm going to punish them by showing them what they should be doing. No, exactly.

Right. You're going to do it better. You understand? Totally. I'm going to punish them by the look in their wife's eye to how much she's enjoying it. I feel like, though, that kind of guy.

Oh, really? Because I was going to say, I feel like that kind of guy that's into that doesn't really give a shit about that. I think that they're into that. Well, they do once they come. Right.

You know how we don't? We can't think until we come. Yeah, totally. And then it's like a whole other person. So what happens is, the next thing you know, they're jerking off, which I learned to shut out

because that's... Not your knock off. I learn and I'll even see that. And as soon as they come, then it's like, okay, reality kicks in. And their wife begging for more. And they're not into it. Oh, no.

they're gone. I mean, well, then, you know, depending on how the guy was, don't get me wrong. I'm not, you know, if the guy was really nice and all that, I'll finish it up. Mm-hmm. If in this particular situation, the guy was very forceful and I didn't want to do it, but his wife kind of came to the side and she said, you know what, he's going to make me do this regardless. And I basically told me I'd rather it be you. Right. You know, because you're, I was a nice guy and things like that. So she said, you know, she kind of asked me please. And I was like, all right, let's do this. So. She said, but she's the one that told me. She goes, but, you know, basically, you know, please be good, things like that. Just don't hold barred.

So, yeah, she was multi-orgasmic, and she was into it more than he probably thought. He ended up leaving, going outside and smoking cigarette and pacing. And I almost, because the kind of man I am, because the kind of man I am, almost dared him to say something to me. I was really mean to him because, for one, he was forced his wife to do this. Right. And you thought he was a scumbag. And I did not agree with him whatsoever. Yeah, exactly.

So I was kind of daring him. Right. How many times do you think you were in that situation where you fucked like another guy's wife in front of him? Oh, my God. Fuck, I'd probably say. Yeah. Now, blow jobs are fuck because there's a lot of fucking blow jobs. Oh, really?

And music. Let's just put it that way. Oh, God. But I mean. Yeah, because it's quick. You know, you don't. Right. But I'm talking about with the husband there, the whole, like with the husband there.

Once again, do you mean? fucking or blow jobs. Both. I have no idea then. It's so many. I would say probably, I would say 10, just guessing as far as 10 women that I went back to their houses or to the hotel or whatever. And that's during, that's, yeah.

Now blow jobs, I have no idea. I mean, there's a lot of men that, you know, you know these kind of men that make their wives make them. I don't say they wanted them, but say, hey, I want you to get your breast done, get your, get your Botox done and all that. They want to show off their trophies. Those type of men love the jerk off watching their wife's sacked. And especially, to be honest with you, since mine's big, I think they're, I don't know if they have penis envy or what, but it's like they're more staring at the men than they are the, I don't know.

Yeah, maybe it's like some bi fantasy or something. Yeah, it's interesting. But you got that a lot. So, yeah, there was a lot of that. Well, not, once again, I'm 40, so a lot of this stuff wasn't like in the last six months. Right, no, this is when you were in the band. A lot of this was between my 20 to 30. Yeah, exactly.

So yeah, I did it a lot. I mean, I didn't approach them. They approached me. Right. That's just a situation I always found you. But I think that people like smell that shit from a mile away, like because you were open to it and you were kind of freaky, right? You're going to these clubs on the side and you're doing this kind of stuff on the side.

So I think people sort of know those people. That's like the same kind of energy thing, right? You put that out. Probably so, but I will say this. None of my closest friends. One of the other things that I am, I'm very tight-lipped about my behavior. things like that. Yeah, I was going to ask you that if this was a secret.

No, I'm very, very secretive. I love being, I love living the Clark Kent Superman type life. I love it. It's like two of me. Like that's a part of it. I do that every day. I'm, absolutely.

I do that every day. During the day, I'm a, I am the vice president of a business. And what's your second life? My second life is the rock musician and all that. Most of the people I work with don't even know that I'm tattooed all throughout up because I wear shirts, you know, that cover most of the... So it's like, I only say that because I kind of have that back and forth, you know, that's the two lives that...

Right. And I think all of us do. Some people do. I think everyone's made up of a different concoction, right? Some people are more extreme. You know, you have like two extremes in you. But I think a lot of people have that. Absolutely.

Some people are more open about it. You like it to be secretive. No. I think we're all sort of different. I like the secret to me. Yeah, you're into that. You also, I am assuming you also always kept all the sexual. stuff a secret.

Yes, absolutely. Nobody really knows anything about this stuff. And that's right, you know, a lot of, a lot of the women to get back on the sub thing, surprisingly, a lot of them may possibly be married. Yeah, what were the consequences? You said you got kind of sloppy. Is that like with the consequences like people? Well, that was when I was young.

I got sloppy with having stalkers. I literally had to go to court with women like it over, over stalker situations. And, you know, and true infatuation. And it sounds at first was like, ha, you know, this is my young, she's infatuated me. Then it became no. And you know this is a woman. And I'm assuming more than likely you're probably a really attractive woman.

But then you know what I'm talking about, you know, because women get more stalkers than men do. Totally. I mean, there are male stalkers, but women, I've seen women go nuts for guys. Like, they go kind of crazy, absolutely. Yeah, but you know, you know what I mean. Women don't typically, women don't have to stalk men. No.

For the most part. No, it's a very unstable. It's a certain kind of woman. And it's a, and then sometimes, unfortunately, I think, like, I met a guy in a bar a couple years ago who was, like, bragging to me and showing me all these texts from these crazy girls that were, like, obsessed with him. And, like, I was kind of like, you know, on some level, you have to, like, sort of say, like, why are you doing business with people like that?

Like, why are you going back and forth with women like this? Like, on some level, I believe sometimes when men have a lot of that in their lives, it's like, they're, they're just as fucking nuts. as those girls, right? Because, like, why are they attracting that? Why are they keeping that going? Why are they feeding that fire? You know, most women don't go crazy for no reason, right?

Most women will only really stalk someone after, you know, stuff has gone down with them. So once you got that girl to that place, it's like maybe you have to take a little bit accountability of like, what did you do to get her there, right? And I guess that's what you're talking about the consequences, right? I had to find out, you know, what's going on. Then I started realizing I'm being really irresponsible. with my gift, my skills, my power, whatever it is. Yeah, maybe we're being as honest back then to the women, right?

And it was making, yeah, I think probably I would be as honest. Probably so. You know, it's a long time ago in a lot of situations since then. But yeah, more than likely probably. So now I'm a lot more, I'm a lot more direct and I'm a lot more, you know, I'm a lot more upfront with the fact that, look, this is going nowhere, you know, other than where it's going, it can last two hours. It can last two years.

I mean, I really don't know. It depends on the dynamic of how this is going to work. Right, and you leave it up to that woman. It's her trace. Like if she knows she's looking for a relationship, then at that point she should pack up and go look for somebody else. Oh, I'll tell her. If I start feeling like there's a little bit of neediness,

don't get me wrong. Part of my strength is I'm also their, if they need it in their lives as a Dom, I'm also their friend, their mentor. You know, I do a lot of coaching, life coaching and things like that with them. But, and I also hear them out, and I offer them real advice. Right, you're like their friend. Pretty much.

I'm a very good friend to them, but I'm an honest friend. Like I'll, you know, I tell them what they need to hear not what they want to hear. Right, totally. But if you smell any kind of neediness or the fact that they're sort of switching tunes, and now they want a relationship, you back off, right? Yeah, but I'll back off. I've learned to do it with finesse.

I've learned to do it, you know, slowly and not just pull away to where it's just, you know, where there's any type of animosity. I've learned to just pace myself and get, quote, unquote, busy with work, you know, whatever it is. But let me ask you this because. to kind of... Let me ask you this because I've talked to some other, like I said, some other Dom guys and stuff. And do you find that these submissives that you meet online typically are married anyway and have relationships? I remember somebody telling me that that was the case with most of them.

So there isn't that issue of having them sort of want a relationship. There's always that distance because they typically have another relationship going and that's not what they're looking for. They're really just looking for what you're looking for. originally my rule was and it's not because of any moral issue I'm not going to lie to you originally my rule was I really didn't mess with with married women it's not because of matrimony or anything like that was just because I just didn't need the drama yeah and but it came to the point where there were so many married women and then I started dealing for them like you can understand in my business I work with I work with a lot of women which no I don't play

where I work right yeah I don't shit where I eat well you're Clark Kent in that lifestyle you're a different guy right So, but I do understand, you know, and I do, I do have a lot of girlfriends that I get intimate conversations with. And there's just, it's like there's this need. And unfortunately, and I'll never, like I have, I'll never dog their men, you know, unless they're just bad men. I'll just tell them, you know, look, they come, that when they get to this point, a woman, women of men are different. Men stray because we're just men. Totally.

You just variety. It's just variety. It's not about love or anything. Because they need. the point when women actually stray outside of a relationship, something as deep as a marriage, that means it's something that's been ongoing for a while. Totally. I've said that a million times.

You know, that's very true. It's something that's something to the point where, okay, they've done made their mind. And once, you know, woman, once you make up your mind, you know, that's the way it's going to go. Now, whether or not they take that leap or not, you know, that's more guilt or whatever consequences or whatever. But they've made up their mind that they're not going to get what they're looking for. Right. And they go looking elsewhere.

So I changed. I was like, okay, now maybe because of what you said, maybe because I feel safe in the fact that if they wanted a divorce or they wanted to leave their marriage, they would have done that first in the first place. Well, it's better for you because you're not looking for a relationship. And a woman that's like in your age range that's going to get like heavy into because with the dom submissive thing, there's a lot of like communication and a lot more going on than just sex, right? And that can get confusing for another, for a woman that's like completely available, right, and doesn't have somebody in her life. And then so maybe that's the kind of woman. that's going to maybe want more, right? But if a woman's married, I think it's like better because or has a relationship on the side

and she's just looking for that Dom sub thing, you know, to go down because it's like what you're looking for. And I think that that works better. Well, exactly. And, you know, it's hard. And this is, and I preach against this too as well because I'm in a, I'm in a little community of Dom's and subs and stuff like that. And I'm one of the biggest outspoken person is that a true Dom sub relationship does not work

in a traditional relationship. Right. The way that it's supposed to. I'm not saying you can't go on Saturday night and take the kids to the babysitter and say, hey, let's play Dom and Sub. Right, but you're saying it doesn't work in everyday life, like husband, wife, kids. Well, for one, what I just said, if you're playing it, and it's a role play. For people like me, this is the real deal.

This is just who I am. I'm not being anybody that I'm not. Right. How many subs do you have? Do you have any right now? Are you always looking for new ones? I have none right now. Okay.

I have none right now. I haven't had one caller since, what's the month, April? Since probably November. This is a busy time of year for me at work. As you can tell, we've been trying to connect. So I haven't really had a lot of time. So I am looking, but I haven't had, no, I haven't had anybody. Right. Okay. But that's what you're on Craigslist looking for, a new sub. How long is the longest relationship that you've had with one of them? How long does it typically last? Typically, I'd say three months. That's it? typically. Do you do the whole writing? Like I found, like, do you do a lot, because what I've heard from my professional doms that have called in,

that there's a lot of like, you know, the dom gives the sub, like, homework and there's a lot of writing involved and a lot more than just sex. Do you get into all that kind of annoying stuff? No. You don't. I think it's, to me, I've been questioning. He had a sub, an applicant, let's just put it that way, not too long ago. that got aggravated with me because I wouldn't give her assignments. Yeah, but that's what a lot of that is about that, right?

And I said, I gave her, I said, okay, here's your assignment. Forget everything you know up to this point about doms and subs. Practice it. Think about it every day. Every day I want you to erase a memory. That's what I gave her and fathom that. Right. Because, number one, I think, this is what I think about some of these domes.

I call them fake-ass doms, whatever. Maybe I'm cynical. But number one, A lot of these men, okay, I have a very good friend that's a sub. We know she has never been my sub. She's a childhood friend. She's really a switch. She has, I probably need to talk to her.

Yeah, I love to. She has probably, the reason I tell you this, she's the one that got me on the Craigslist in the first place. She has probably been with probably just about every Dom in our metro area. Except you. except me. Yeah, I'm very, she's very irresponsible with some of her situation. But the good thing is she tells me everything. And she tells me I'm the only true Dom she's ever met. Oh, okay. I don't want to get into all that. So anyways, you know, a lot of these men that are, that call themselves Dom, I think they're very weak. I mean, I think that they use the whole Dom sub thing, number one, to probably get laid because they don't get laid regularly. No, but there's a lot of not getting lead involved in all that aside. And shit. It's more like writing and emailing and there's a lot of blah, blah, blah.

Those are the married ones. Right. Yes. Those are the married ones that are that can't get out of the house that are trying to keep a to keep the girl on the line and give her assignments and keep her busy. So she doesn't venture off. Right. Oh, maybe. Right. Well, that would be smart because it works. These guys are the longer. If you talk to these girls. Yeah. You'll find out that that yeah, that's why because I'm going to tell you as a man, have any man, I have any real man on your show. And I don't care, Dom. sub, gay, whatever, no man is going to wait that long and have with all these damn assignments and stuff, especially whenever there's a willing person there that will do anything you want. Yeah, but these are guys. Yeah, absolutely.

These are guys that guys. We're not that patient. Most men aren't that discipline. They're not that patient. They're at least going to go dip in it and try it out and see if that's what they want. Right. So what they do is if they're married, they convince them that they're not. They'll say that they're big.

busy, all this kind of stuff. But that's their way of giving them assignments to keep them preoccupied. Right. So, but since you don't have that and you're not married and you probably do business with women and, you know, in your state or your city where you live, because some of them do it, you know, elsewhere. People are in other states so they don't can't see them all the time. So you don't need to do all that stuff to keep them on the line.

You could go there. You could have your situation. You could have sex with them. No, but I do something else. And this is why I like the younger ones. and I like, I honestly like damaged women. At least you admit it. I think a lot of guys go for that.

I'm a fixer. Yeah. I like that because I like, once again, you got to go like to everything I've told you. I like women that have some issues and things like that because I'm a life coach. You know, I enjoy, you know, actually making them, I'll tell them, I'll tell them. Look, I'm going to make you, I want you to, to bow to take this world by storm. You know, I'm going to make you, you know, pretty much a. be a leader, be in charge, be dominant in the world and all that, your only weakness is me.

Right. You want to help them. You mind fuck though. Yeah, I really truly do. I enjoy it. I'll be honest with you. I love, I've got a little bit of a mind fuck when you go in. I've gotten them careers. Okay. I've gotten women careers. I mean, I'm talking, I've actually coached them on resume things, getting them into the next thing, you know, they have a career that they'd never thought they would have. Right. But a lot of that is probably feeding your ego on a certain level. But there's something wrong with that because you're both getting something out of it, right? but that's why you get the damage girls because they're more likely, they can't do that on their own. They can't do it on their own,

and there's a lot of people that would take advantage of them. I'm a sucker for a damaged woman, I admit it, because I'm passionate and things like that. And, you know, and women, I've learned a lot of things in my 40 years about what the things that women go through. There's a lot more abuse than anybody would ever even imagine. Listen, there's more damaged women than there aren't damaged women, because most guys are sort of,

not so great and then they become fathers and then they have daughters and then they don't treat them well and then these girls i'm always like i think that the male species like perpetuates sluts by being like douchbag dads like that's the only way they keep creating these promiscuous women because of more if guys like so i think in a weird way it's something like you know biological and in nature because this is how men create easy women by being douchebag fathers you know and if that didn't go down i agree you know it would be a little bit different but you know if you guys didn't do that, then girls wouldn't be so easy, and then you'd be kind of fucked.

So on some level, I think as a species, you guys do it on purpose. We're going to have to wrap this up because my kid is about to wake up and I have to give him a bottle. But we're going to have to do it part too, because I feel like you have 10,000 more stories. I've lived a lot. I've lived a life, man. No, I love hearing it.

And people love hearing it. So, but we, you know, I feel like there's so much here, right? Because you are very different than the other Dom's that I've spoken to, right? There are more like, I don't know. I feel like they're more sort of what you would expect and what you read about and they do follow the rule book more so and it's what you expect, right? You're more out of the box and you think you do things more a different way. But I personally think that there's more underneath that, more psychological stuff that has to do with you and what you're going. Especially with the whole, oh, I like, you know, damaged women. On some level, I have to say, and like I've said before in this podcast, I'm going to have to do a part two with you because I have to wrap this up that there's stuff going on with you like that you're probably have a damage as well and this is your way of sort of working through that by picking out these damage girls you probably

don't think that you know in your mind no i do think that i do i do think that's what's going on right i i do think it yeah i'm like i said i'm pretty self-aware i do have a lot of damages i lived a rough life growing up and uh i've come to terms with that you know it's not like i cry in the corner at or anything like that. But I do wish there was some, you know, wish there was someone or someone to talk to and all that. And especially, you know, I do have closeness with women. And there are women in my life.

What did you wish that there was someone to talk to? When I was younger. Whenever I was having issues and whenever I was. Right. But listen, when you get older, you can do that kind of stuff. Well, yeah. At the age, I can. But see, the funny thing is with the women that are closest to me in my life, you know,

family members and stuff like that, I'm not as open with. Of course not. And then you pick these damage girls and you spend all your time working on them because that's a way of avoiding working on yourself. If you probably gave all that up and just focused on you and your sort of issues, you could probably, you probably would need some life coaching of yourself. And you probably should take all that energy. You know, with those other people, it's more a projection of helping them on some level

you need to help yourself. And you could turn that around and work on yourself for a little bit. And that would probably be really great. And would change you a bit. You're only 40. I think that's still super young. I believe so much in sort of being if yourself. aware, sort of not just being self-aware, but working on those parts of yourself that you know

are there. I think it's, oh, you always have a chance to sort of grow and change as a person. For me, I did hardcore therapy recently in my life while I was trying to have the baby, and I was going through some difficult times. And it really changed me for real after doing it for like three years. So I'm always into like sort of therapy and trying to work on yourself and change yourself and grow and change. Why not? You know what I mean? You're only four years old. You're still super young. 100% agree with you. The only thing I could say about that is, is I will say this, I'm happy.

Like, I'm truly for the first time, you know, in the last five, six years, I'm like, I'm happy where I'm at. I'm not, you know, I like the things that I do. I really honestly, I'm sure everything we do can be psychoanalyzed. I mean, totally. I love to psychoanalyze. Right, but you're happy and that's where you want to leave it right now. Well, and that's cool. Right now, yeah, and I'm happy with what I do.

I know no matter how much I tell you what your listeners think and what they think of this guy is devious or whatever. Whatever you think, I know that in myself that I have no. I don't think it's devious. No, I don't think it's devious at all whatsoever. I think some people could say it's selfish, but does it come from a devious place? No, most of the time when you have sort of compulsions

and you're doing things that are, you know, or feeding your eager or whatever that stuff is that some people would say, oh, that's manipulation. You're doing it on a subconscious level. You know, that stuff is so deep-seated that it happens subconsciously. So you're not consciously doing it, right, at all. So, yeah. I'm not consciously doing anything, anything damaging.

No, I don't think you sound manipulative or anything. I just like, I like to psychoanalyze people. Like, you're a life coach. I once went to life coach school. Like, I had to drop out after the first day when they told me that I'm not allowed to really tell people like what to do. Because I just like to psychoanalyze and make my own analysis and just be like, this is what you need to fucking do. and I can't wait around for people to make up their minds.

That's just like, that's why I do my podcast because I love peeling back the layers, right? I think personally with you, there's a lot more going on underneath all that stuff. That's what I'm always interested in. But I know my listeners always just love to hear these hot stories. And I feel like you have like a thousand more hot stories. And, you know, I always have people who come back on my show and do repeat calls because I typically like to keep my episodes like to be about an hour. We're like at an hour and 20 minutes.

And I'm not going to edit anything out. No, it's not bad. It's good. It's great because I feel like I could do a part two with you and I'm just going to dig a little bit deeper. Or we could do a part two and we could get more hot stories because I feel like there's a lot more sexual stuff that you did. And because I sort of spent a lot of time getting your background, right? And learning who you were. We still have like, there was still stuff like left untold.

So, you know, I'll definitely have you back on. We'll do a part two of Eric. Sure. We can do either. Or I'm pretty open about it. Either way, you know, I don't have to tell stories. And one of the things we had discussed with you before is it's, the truth is so much more just to Google than. Well, we'll get to the truth.

We'll figure out where it goes. You know, I never know where my podcast is going to go. I never know what I'm going to, you know, what it's going to turn into. Like I said, we'll do a part two. Maybe it'll be all about like some more just hot sex stories. Maybe it'll be more revealing about your past. I don't know, but I'd love to do a part two because we need to wrap this up now. Sure.

I'll be your Joe Dirt. Okay. Oh, Joe Dirt. Why don't we name you that for the podcast? That's good. I'm just messing with you. Oh, okay. All right, Eric.

So let's talk soon. No, I don't need Joe Dirk. Okay. All right, Eric, so let's talk soon. It was great talking to you. And we're going to do a part two with more. We'll get more information for you. Okay.

Okay. Thanks so much for calling in. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession.

Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available, not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the other. audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters.

It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available. coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay, there's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other,

and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. and I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

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