Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1220 - Daniella & her and her Husband Both Have Female Lovers

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

⁠⁠⁠Daniella is bisexual and both she and her husband have female lovers and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how she recently realized she was totally interested in women, he rules her and her husband had going in to them hooking ups with other women, how and why she wound up in a situationship with her female best friend, their first hook up and exactly what went down, how and why she loved fooling around with women and why she can orgasm easier with them, how having coming out about women to her husband made their sex life better, how she learned to squirt herself and what she used to squirt, the Discord channel she joined and the woman she met on there, how they hooked up virtually at first and exactly what would go down, their first in person meeting and exactly what went down while she stayed with her, how the other girls husband reacted to them hooking up, how and why she also gave a free pass to her husband, the woman he started dating and how she felt about it at first, how falling for other girl has actually helped her marriage with her husband plus a whole lot more. REPEAT originally aired 1/2024 Link to the wand she used to make herself squirt (I found you the cheaper version!!) ⁠https://amzn.to/3tJt6vw⁠ Link to Susan's video about squirting that she spoke about: ⁠https://betterlover.com/how-to-use-the-njoy-pure-wand-for-female-ejaculation/⁠ **To see HOT pics of DANIELLA plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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discord channel she's talked about that is out there that is full of women who are. like married and are like late in life lesbians. I mean, she's only 38, but you know, it's all moms on there. And she wound up hooking up with another girl. And this is the little girl she's with now. This girl's a little bit younger than her. She, I think she's like 26, super hot. They started to have a booty call situation chip at first. They were doing a lot of sexting and FaceTiming. And then they eventually met and had the best sex ever. And she talks all about that. She then tells the story about how her guy eventually wound up meeting someone as well, someone totally different, how he met her, how many times they've hooked up, how she feels about it. I mean, it's not like it's always smooth sailing,

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I think that she listened to by Susan Brett and that helped her as well. So that will be in the description. I'm going to be right back on with Daniela. Hi, Daniela. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi. I'm doing good.

I like your story, Danielle. I've kind of heard something a little bit similar before, but not exact. You recently, or maybe not so recently, I don't know, you eventually came out to your husband. You have a husband, right? It's our husband. Yes, I have a husband. As bisexual, right? And then you got into it. You started hooking up with your BFF, which I'm assuming as a girl. That kind of blew up. I love a story gone wrong story. Yeah, situation ship gone wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to talk about that. But then eventually, you wound up being like polyamorous. Same with your husband because you both currently have girlfriends that live in other places and you're both dating other women besides being together, correct? That's

the end of the story. That's where you're at now. Yep, that's where we're at. What I love about this is because a lot of times, I think some of my girls that had girls on the other side, like they just didn't want their guy to sort of do anything separate. I don't know. Sometimes you have that going on. I love that. You're like, yeah, I'm going to have a girlfriend and you can have one too. You both have girlfriends. separate ones. You obviously have a different taste. I don't know. We're going to get the whole story. So let's go back. Let me first. My first question would be how long ago did you tell your guy that you were by? That was probably about two years ago, ish. Okay. So let's go back though before that. Because I'm assuming before two years you knew you were into girls. Like when did you realize that you were into women? So, okay, way back, like starting at the beginning, I was raised extremely religious, extremely

vanilla, like my whole life. I married my husband when I was 19, so we grew up together. Like, we were both very young. So we've been together for a while and stuff. Everything's been very vanilla. So I kind of always thought, like, girls were pretty and, like, girls would turn me on and, like, I would watch, like, lesbian porn. But I just thought, like, like all women thought girls were pretty. I think they kind of do. I don't know. Yeah, like I just kind of thought, it's normal.

That's not a big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You never put it together, not when you were younger. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, go on. And then as I got older, I kind of started questioning, like, everything, like religion, the way I was brought up, societal norms, everything.

And then it just kind of dawned on me one day. I was like, I actually think I like women. Really? Was it like you were watching porn at the time or some like hot bitch walk by and you were like, oh my God, look at her ass? I mean, what, what do you remember what, why at that moment you felt that way? Um, I think I was just, I've always, Lauren, I've always watched girl on girl, which should have been a big clue. Should have been a huge clue that I was kind of like, I don't really care if there's a guy there. Oh my God. No Dicks. It doesn't matter. No Dicks doesn't matter to you. It was always. Yeah, I was like, no, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And actually, sometimes the guys in porn gross me out, honestly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, once I did virtual porn, VR, I tried it, and they're like right in front of you. And I was like, oh, this is so disgusting. It's like a real person. Oh, gosh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like a guy, you don't know. I don't know. Guys could be kind of gross.

I just feel like it's hard to find, like, guys you're attracted to as a woman. Yeah, and so, and I mean, I'm attracted to my husband, and I always have been and stuff. but it's like, it's literally gotten to that point where I tell him it's you. And if we separate, I'm not going with any other guys now. Interesting. Okay. So when you had that epiphany that you liked girls, did you tell your guy immediately? No.

Oh, gosh, no. I hemmed and hot about it forever. I, like, rolled it around in my head. I did the whole self-doubt thing. Like, I was making it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't want to believe it. Yeah.

because, I mean, yeah, just the way you're raised and everything, like you have these doubts in your mind when things deep-seated in there. So it was probably, I remember it was summertime that year. And I just sat him down and I was like, so I think I really like girls. And he just kind of looked at me and he was like, and? Yeah, and what does that mean? He wasn't even shocked. Like, he's so, he said he. He kind of just, like, figured that I liked girls, too, and just didn't realize it about myself.

And why did he think that about you, do you think? Were you, like, watching porn with him and you were, like, always fast forwarding to lesbian porn? Like, was that the tell? I mean, why do you think he knew? He said because, yeah, if we watched porn together, I usually wanted to watch the girls. I didn't really care about the guys. And, like, he said, like, I'm the type of girl, too. Like, when we would be watching movies or something, if there was, like, an actress.

on screen that we thought was hot or he'd be like, oh, look at that. I'd be like, oh, yeah, her ass looks good. Oh, my God, that's so funny. So it was a little bit obviously. He realized it before you did. Yeah, he said, he was like, well, yeah, I kind of guessed it. And really, in my younger years, of course, before I was 19, because I was married at 19, but teenage years, you'd get drunk at a party or something, and I'd kiss one of my friends, but nothing more than that. Make out what tongue? Yeah. interesting all the girls would just do that but no one thought anything of it and you would never

go any further there was nothing more than that but it was making out there was nothing more than that it was just yeah it was just totally like first base making out yeah girl crush like funny kind of shit like that right yeah yeah yeah okay so you tell your husband and then what goes down i mean do you get a free pass immediately no not immediately immediately i think i think it we went through that stage of like, what does this mean? Well, what do you want to stay with me? We had some really rough spots there. When I originally brought up polyamory, he was like, no, no, not for it. Because really, because I'm just thinking you just think that you're into women sexually. When you sit him down and tell him you're into women, you mean you're into women like dating,

having sex, like the whole shebang. Like you could have a relationship with a woman, right? Yeah, like you're developing feelings. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a very, that's a deeper kind of conversation for sure. And then that's why you guys were discussing what's going to happen between the two of you. Yeah, because I've never really been the type of person that just wants to sleep around. Casual sex is not my game. Usually catch feelings really easy. Most girls do. Yeah. So that, and that totally leads into my friend and I starting to fool around. Oh my God. But wait, did you have a pass from your guy at this? point? I mean, how did you work through the polyconvo and the convo about what's going to happen between me and you? Like, how did you get past that? I think that took like a whole year. That was probably a whole year of us talking and everything. And in the midst of this, my best friend goes through a divorce because her spouse cheated on her. And so we kind, my husband and I both kind of stepped in and helped her a lot.

And then polyamory kind of came up first as a thruple idea. So we kind of talked about it because my best friend was getting very into our lives and very close to us. And her and I were getting closer. And so we had discussed that. And that kind of opened the doors, I think, to him being more open to it. Okay. And did, I mean, did the thought of a threesome between the, I know there's like a thruple involved, but did you also consider doing a threesome with your guy?

as well. Oh yeah, we talked about it multiple times. Okay. We talked about it many times. It never happened because the whole thing blew up before anything could happen. But we had discussed it many times. She had said she wanted to watch him fuck me. Wait, wait, but you're jumping ahead. I mean, I'm at the point. I haven't got to the point where you wind. It's okay. No, I want to, I like to drag stories out. I got a whole hour and I want to hear how this whole thing started with your best friend because one minute she got a divorce. The next minute. she's telling you she wants to see your husband fuck you that's a big jump yeah that is a big jump i mean you're still talking to your husband are you guys like talking to each other about hooking up with

his best friend and she's not even in the know or was there some sort of thing that went down with your best friend where you realize and she realized that you and her were attracted to each other like which came first i think what came first she actually started like joking with us she was like hey guys why don't we just have a thruffle we could just all move in together Or we could just. And so then it was like that joking kind of led to more flirtation. And then it kind of led to it was real. And I was like, oh, this is real. I could actually have a girlfriend. This is crazy. And then I'm talking to my husband about it. And he's like, yeah, I find her attractive. I'm, I think that wouldn't be a bad idea. And then we just kind of would casually

talk about it with her, which sounds so weird. And then it kind of led to, it was real. And I was like, oh, this is real. I could actually have a girlfriend. This is crazy. And then I'm talking to my husband about it. And he's like, yeah, I find her attractive. I think that wouldn't be a bad idea.

And then we just kind of would casually talk about it with her, which sounds so weird. No, but that is kind of like how things go. It all gradually happened. Yeah, and now you're all kind of discussing Hoking up All Together, though, right? Yeah, at first we were discussing Hoking Up All Together. But it sounds like you never did,

so somehow you wind up, you know, with her so how does that happen? Yeah, and I think because she She was married to a woman. Oh, so you knew she was a lesbian before. That's a big part of, you have to say that. Yeah, I should have said that. Sorry. No, it's okay.

That was important. Now, can I ask you a quick question, though? And so you knew she was gay. When you realized that you were into women, like, did you think about her? Did you feel like you were attracted to or did it only happen after she got divorced and you started to like think about her that way? We'd always kind of like, we'd had a platonic friendship and we'd always like flirted with each other. Okay. And so I have to honestly say like she's attractive and I've always thought she was attractive.

Okay, cool. I just kind of, I think I always just thought, oh, she's my friend and I think she's pretty. Yeah, just like you were thinking the other things. It was like, it was that's, you thought that when you didn't realize that you were into women. But then once you did and she's getting a divorce and she's on the table. Yes. Your flirting goes up a notch. Yes.

And then there was actually her and I had a discussion one time, like the full sit down. I have feelings for you. I have feelings for you. what does this mean for us? Okay, but before that conversation, did you tell her like, hey, by the way, I figured out like I'm really into women? Yes, I did. Okay, you did. Okay, good. That's what I figured.

Like, you did tell her that at some point because that's when she probably was like, oh, this could be something here. You know what I mean? That was like her window of opportunity. That was before she started joking about frebbles and stuff. Exactly. Yeah. Because you told her, right? I mean, she's one of your best friends.

Why wouldn't you tell her? I mean, that's how girls are. So you told her that then the flirting went up. And then you have this sit down. And it's who's, so you both have feelings for each other. You're both are copying to that. If that sit down? Yes.

We were both like, okay, we have feelings for each other. But I made it very clear, like, I don't want to leave my husband. And she's like, well, I don't want you to leave your husband. So then that kind of put us in this like limbo because she was like, yeah, we could totally have a threple. But then she would pull back. And so she was very apprehensive about it. And I could tell that.

And we knew that was going on. So then my husband and I started discussing, like, well, what would be the reality if, like, just her and I dated? And he, that's kind of how we got into the polyamory thing. Because then I was like, because you could date somebody too. Okay. So it's not just about you. It's about the both of you. Okay.

That's cool. Yeah. Because I didn't feel like it was fair for me to be like, hey, I'm going to go have sex with this woman and have a relationship and you just chill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not fair, but sometimes people are like a lot of the hot wives, they like their guy loves for them to fuck other guys, but they could never like deal with that. I think it's a hard thing to accept, but you were like totally down with him being with somebody else. That was okay with you as well. Yeah, I was like, if you need to find somebody too, that's fine. Okay. And so we'd had that discussion. So then I'd go to

my friend and I'm like, hey, you know, I've talked to my husband. and we've discussed this and stuff. And if you and I just dated, he's okay with that. Now, was she super happy? Yeah, and she was like happy, but she was still apprehensive about it. Okay. Now, was she a gold star gay? Had she ever been with a guy?

Because I wonder, I mean, she was a lesbian, married to a woman. Like, why would she even want to be involved with your guy, right? She had been with boys. Okay. She had been with guys. Okay. Yeah. She, and I would say, I don't want to give people labels.

I'd say like she says she's a lesbian, but she's probably more pansexual. Oh, okay. So you know that she's totally into guys as well. Yeah. So we were just, so we discussed that and stuff. So then in the midst of all this apprehension, she meets another girl. Okay. Oh, no.

And this is a, yeah, oh, no. Okay. This is a single girl, a gold star lesbian. She's never been with boys. Oh, the girl she meets. Okay. Yes. and they're casually dating.

And she's like, well, I don't know. I can casually date you and casually date her. And I was just kind of like, well, that sounds like a whole situation ship thing. But I'm head over heels for you and you're my best friend and I'm just going to do it. Okay. Now, at this point, had you guys hooked up yet? Has there been that first hookup with your BFF? Not yet.

Okay. Okay. I just want to make sure you didn't cut over that. But you're already, I mean, you're deeply involved in these conversations of like really intense feelings between you two, but you still haven't crossed the line and gotten physical. No, not yet. Okay.

Like flirtatious physical, like slapping asses and stuff, but not not physical, physical. Okay, cool. So go on. So she meets this girl and you're, and you decide to go with it because you, you, you, you don't want to let her go. Yeah. I'm just like head over heels and totally into this. Like, I can, I can do this.

like I can have a girlfriend and a husband and I can show her I can make this work. And your girlfriend can have a girlfriend because that's a part of this picture. Oh my God. I'm like, it's polyamory. We can make this work. Oh my God. My head hurts. Yeah.

So then one night she just texts me and she's like, come over to my house and I come over to her house. And she basically jumps me from the minute I walk in the door. Oh, okay. I was thinking that the other girl was going to be there and you're going to have a threesome. But she's there and she just calls you over. Now this is your guy's first hookup. Yeah. And it was our first hookup.

And we had, I mean, we had sex. That was the first time I had sex with a woman. And you had, I mean, at this point, and I'm going to get the details of the sex because people love that kind of shit. But at this point, though, you have a free pass from your guy, right? You can fool around with this girl. It's going to happen at some point. Are there any kind of rules or regulations between you and your husband? And is it kind of like, don't ask, don't tell, or make sure you come home and tell me every detail, take pictures.

I mean, what's the deal with the hookups? We hadn't really decided whether we would be like, hey, don't tell me or I want to know all the details. We had the basic rule. Don't bring anything home and don't leave anything there. Okay, that's funny. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Be safe, have protection, all that stuff. So when he knows, though, that you're going to that house, you're going to hook up with her. you could hook up with her. But you didn't know going over there this was going to be your first hookup? No, I had no idea. Oh my God. So she lays it on you the minute you walk in.

Yeah, like I come in. We like sit down on the couch and she's like, let's watch a movie. And the movie turns on and then she's like straddling me on my lap. And I was like, oh, hi. And what was that like? Listen, I've never made out or a fool around with a girl best friend, but I have a guy best friend.

And the chemistry was off the fucking charts because there's like, a lot of layers there. You know what I mean? Because you know this person so much. And was it like that with her? Oh, yeah. The chemistry was like off the charts because even before we had discussed being together, of course, being friends, we talked about our sex life with each other. So we knew things that each other liked. She knew biting me was good and I knew choking her was good. And the chemistry was really great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Girls, I mean, I think guys don't realize this, but I think girls talk about sex with each other more than guys do, don't you think? Oh, yeah, 100%.

Yeah, for sure. So you knew all her, all this stuff she was into, she was into choking. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. And you choked her that night? Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. So was this the first time?

I mean, I know you made out with women. So this was the first time you were doing anything else, correct? Yeah. I mean, up until this point, the only person I had slept with in 20 years, was my husband. Oh my God. Okay. So what went down? What kind of, did you do everything? I did not go down on her. Okay. Which was a red flag to me afterwards. Well, why would it be a red flag to you? Did you not go down on her because she didn't want you to? I don't understand. Yeah, she stopped me from doing it. And I now looking back, I'm like, that's a red flag. That was a red flag because it was like she was stopping some sort of intimacy.

between us and in the end our situation should blew up and she ended up with the other girl so it makes sense but wait let's not get there yet i mean she so you're fooling around clothes come off she goes down on you though right yes okay and how is that for you i mean this is the first time you're doing anything like this even i mean it's not even just like another guy i mean that would even be big for you because you've only ever been really with that one guy your husband for 20 years but this is like your first time with a woman and this is something i feel like you've been subconsciously pining for for a long time. Was it amazing? It was so amazing. I kept thinking in my head how different it was because the biggest difference, guys are like hard. Their bodies are hard. Women are so soft.

Right. Like it's so nice. I was just like, oh my gosh, it's like, it's beautiful to touch you. And like kissing was softer and she's small. than my husband, so it was just like different. Like I could move her and stuff. It was just, it was completely different. And it was amazingly different. And it was just like perfectly different. Right.

Now, how hot was she? I mean, paint the picture. She's gorgeous. Perfect hourglass figure. I mean, round, round. I love like a pear shape, round hips, round ass. Oh, God. She's totally got.

that. Interesting. I've never heard of someone say they love a pear shape. Oh, God. I love little tits, big ass. Right? I don't know why. I love it. Well, listen, there's something for everyone. I love that you love pear shaped. I've never heard that before. Yeah, it's just like that perfect like hips and that's the proportion you like. Yeah, it turns you on. Yeah. Okay. So, and that's her. That's her body. Mm-hmm. And she's got long, beautiful hair. She's Very femme. Very femme. And you? Yeah. And what's your deal? I'm very femme too. Okay. And I am attracted to very feminine women. The mask thing, I can appreciate it, but it's not my thing. The mask thing? What is that? Oh, mask, like masculine lesbians. Oh, is that what you're called? Oh, yeah, yeah. I can totally appreciate it, but it's not my thing. I love long hair and makeup and dresses. Yeah, you like the lipstick lesbians. And you are too, though, yourself.

Yes. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, so she goes down on you. Is it like really, is it like better than when your husband goes down on you, by the way? Do you feel like there's a difference? I honestly feel like I can come so much easier when a woman goes down on me than when a man goes down on me. Oh my God. Really?

Why do you think? Because they're so much better at it because they have a clip and they know. Or like, why? Maybe. Maybe that is it. Or maybe I think I'm more able to relax. When a woman's going down to me, which is weird. Even though I've been with my husband so long,

I still have so much self-consciousness, like when he's down there. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, like with a woman, I'm just much more relaxed. Even though it was your best friend, like in that first time, you were just like super relaxed. That's really interesting. I mean, maybe it's just because I just really like women more. I think, yeah, I think it is. I think it just felt like more comfortable.

Yeah. And well, yeah. And like most women in the world, I've had bad experiences with men. And I think that just generally puts you on tense and like on edge. Yeah, there could be blocks for sure for certain things. Yeah. And that could stay with you. Yeah.

All right. So you hook up. And so when you, so you try to go down on her, you want to. And what does she say? No. I mean, because who turns that down? I don't understand. Yeah, it was so she, like, I try, like, it was towards the end because she had gone down on me.

And I did get her off. I totally just fingered her and fucked her that way and choked her. And she came so hard and it was so awesome. And it was great. And then I thought, I'm going to do this. I'm going to be like full of lesbian now. I'm going to go down on her. And she just kind of scooted over and she was like, uh-uh, no, you're not doing that. And I was like,

what? Yeah, that's weird. And did she say anything? Did you ask her why? No, kind of, you're just on that high. I was just kind of like, okay, I'm just going to let it go. Yeah. And she came already. I mean, you did get her off. Yeah, and I figured maybe she's really sensitive after she comes. I don't know. Hey, guys, you know that you have a G spot. Yeah, guys have a G spot just like women have a G spot. And you want to know where yours is? It's right under. your taint. Now, if you don't know where your taint is, it's that little tiny, super sensitive strip right between your balls and your asshole. Now, listen, if you stimulate your male G-spot,

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Coat strictly to get 20% off. And did she say anything? Did you ask her why? No, kind of, you're just on that high. I was just kind of like, okay, I'm just going to let it go. Yeah. And she came already. I mean, you did get her off. Yeah. And I figured maybe she's really sensitive after she comes. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, that's how I am. Right afterwards, I can't have. I need 20, 15, 15, 15, minutes. Like certain people roll that way. Some people could just multioagic one after the other. I need like a good 15, 20 minutes and then I could go again. So, Yeah. I could see you giving her that kind of pass, like thinking it's that. But later on you find out you think it's because of this other woman, you think? Yeah. Oh, interesting. I think it was kind of like that was too intimate. Like, that was her line.

Nope, that's, this is now going to be my girlfriend. I've made that decision. Mm-hmm. That other girl. Now, does she tell you that? I mean, she has you over. She's the one that initiates. It's interesting.

maybe because she knew she was going to wind up going with that other girl. She's like, I just got to actually have a night with my BFF that I've been flirting with all this time. I don't know. Because is that the only time you hook up with her? I mean, does it end after that? That is. It ended after that. She was like, she told me the next day.

She's like, we can't do that again. Oh, yeah. That really was her. She really called you over to just get that in before she hung her hat someplace else. Oh, yeah. I instantly was like, I just got used. Well, I mean, yeah, and I mean, I could have said no. I could have not got over. I'm an adult. It's fine. Yeah, let me ask you this. Before she called you over while you were talking, you knew about this other girl. I mean, had she expressed to you how much she liked this other girl as well? Were you like, was she honest about that? She, yeah, kind of. Like, she kept telling me it was easy with her. And so.

I mean, I kind of was like feeling like I was like, like losing her a little bit. Yeah, you got a husband. You just came off of being quote unquote straight. This is like a new thing for you. This other girl is a straight up lesbian, right? Yeah. And she can give her like her full time. Yeah.

With me, it would be like half because I have a husband. I have other things and other obligations. Yeah, but I just got to tell you, I don't think she used you. Okay. I think using somebody is like you could give a fuck about them and you just need to put your whatever in whatever, whether it's a dick or you just need sex. I think she had real feelings for you. I think she naturally chose the other girl. I think she was probably very torn. Here you are her best friend. She has these feelings. She knows you like her, but she now met this other girl. She probably liked you both. She was super horny for the both of you. And she knew the other girl she was going to go

with her because she was, it was easier with her. You're a couple. complicated. Most people don't want to sign up for a fucking thruple, okay? Because if anyone's going to get shafted in that scenario, a lot of times it's that that other partner that isn't a part of the primary relationship. So I understand why she chose the other girl, but I don't think she used you. I think she just wanted to have that night with you and be with you because she really felt those feelings. I think that was real, but I wouldn't call it she used you at all. I mean, are you not friends with her after that? Did you take it so bad that you stopped talking to her? No, it wasn't even that I took it bad.

I think what happened is, so we stay friends and we're talking and stuff. We don't hook up anymore because she's like, nope, I'm going to date this other girl. And so we kind of put the kibosh on us being together. But then within three, four months, she just kind of ghosted me. Interesting. Now, was she the type of friend that would ghost you anyway when she was in relationships? You know how there's certain girls like that. like they get a partner and they're like bye bye they don't need friends anymore you know what I mean like

did you think it was it was she that girl I mean you knew her for a long time yeah she hadn't ghosted me ever before with relationships oh interesting but she had ghosted people before oh interesting and then you became one of them that's sad because it's kind of like if you probably never went there with her and had that other thing that probably wouldn't have happened I mean maybe that other girl had a problem with you because maybe she knew that you guys had something going on before her, right? She took, even if she didn't know, no, if she, like, picked up on the vibe or something, I'm sure she's like, nope. Yeah, she might have told her.

I mean, if she wound up letting her know what happened and they had a conversation, I mean, that girl might have said, listen, you can't be friends with her. I know you fucked her the night before we dated. You don't even forget about it. Yeah, like the night before I officially called you my girlfriend or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I mean, imagine. So now you're not friends with her anymore. No, we haven't talked in months, months and months. And she's still with that girl? As far as I know, yeah. Yeah, you'll probably hear

from her if they ever break up. I think that other girl might have caught wind or she might have been honest or something happened. And that's why she had to dump you and she didn't have the balls to have a conversation with you, which is stupid and fucked up. I get ghosting a stranger or someone you just met, but who ghosts your best friend? You know what I mean? After so long, long, right? No conversation, nothing? No. Wow. It's weird. Just unanswered text. And you just gave up. Okay, so now let me ask you a quick question. That night that you have this great sex with her and all this stuff. Do you go home and tell your husband? Oh, yeah. And is he like horny for it? I mean, how did he react? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, I came home and he told me and I

looked like, what did he say? The cat that got the canary. Oh. Oh my God, hilarious. Did you have sex knots in your hair? Yeah, we were just laughing because he was like, oh, my God, you're so funny. And then I didn't tell him like all the details. It wasn't like a play-by-play. Yeah. But I did get into detail with him and tell him things.

He was like, well, was it better? And I'm like, it's not that it's better. It's that it's different. Yes. It's, yeah, it's a completely, it's like apples and oranges. They're both fruit, but they're different. And, yeah, he was totally turned on. we, I had sex with him that night too.

And did it add to your sex with him? Oh, yeah. Since I came out to my husband, since I realized that I like women, I've just kind of like embraced it and been okay with it, it's made sex a hundred times better. Because you guys could fantasize and talk about stuff. Like, is that why? Yeah. And I think I'm not as repressed and holding back.

And actually, in the midst of coming out, I found a podcast. Okay. Yeah. I remember this is a little part of something. Yeah, and I was listening to it, and I got onto one of the episodes where Susan Bratton, I think is her name. Oh, yes, this is the part of I'm like, oh, my God, you're going to get into how she taught you out of squirt, you bitch. Like, you know that this is my mission in life and no one's taught me how to squirt. Oh, it was like in the midst of all of this.

I'm on my own, like, just listening to your podcast. And then I go to Susan's website and I listen to her stuff and I'm reading her stuff. And I think it was a toy she suggested on there. It looks like a medieval torture device. Really? But it's this metal bar that's C curved. Okay. And it's got two bulbs on the ends, and you can use that to hit your G spot.

So perfect. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to buy this toy. And I did it, and I just listened to what she said, like, when you feel this pressure, when you feel that, that's okay. And now I squirt. No way. Like, it fucking worked. it fucking worked first time

not first time no it took it took probably three or four that's not bad and that was me by myself but you did it the first time that it happened were you by yourself

yes and what I've heard and tell me if I'm wrong and I think you're gonna agree that once you learn and figure it out it's easy peasy like it's not like hard anymore it's a matter of figuring out

how to do it and then once you can you could always squirt correct Yes. Once you know what that sensation is, you just automatic, like it's just easy. Wow. So can you squirt now even without that toy? Oh, yeah. Wow. So you could do stuff that you did before that you could never squir for it. Now because you hit that spot, you could come, you could squirt all the time from all kinds of sense. Oh, yeah. Interesting. I'm jealous. Did that girl make you squirt or was that before or after her? She did? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, when she went down on me. Yeah. And I was nervous about it because I don't know. Has anybody ever been with a girl who squirts before? She knew I could squirt. And so she went down on me and it felt amazing and she made me come and I squirted and I was worried. And then when she told me it tasted like pixie sticks. I was like, okay, I'm good. Are you serious? That's so funny. Yeah. Yeah, she told me pixie sticks. My husband told me maple sticks. of. Oh, interesting. So it has a different kind of taste. Yeah. They tell me it's really, really sweet. Wow. So she was into it. You learn how to squirt. And now, oh my God, I need to put a link to that. Was it one of my Susan Susan Bratton links that linked you to the thing, the machine? Yeah, I think it was. Gosh, it was an older

episode. It was backaways. Okay. I'm going to go look through it and I have to put that link out for people to go. And I have to go buy that toy. Okay, because whatever it is, I have not figured it out. I have to look for that torture device. Well, it's what everybody says. They're like, it looks like a torture device. I'm like, well, yeah, that it works. Yeah, that's so interesting. All right.

Now, thanks for that little tip. I'm going to go look for that. And once I find it, or you send me the link to it, a picture of it, and then I'm going to link it in the description for everybody else. But let me ask you this. How do you wind up meeting the girl you're with now and your husband meeting his girl? I mean, we need to hear this whole story.

So this, like a lot of this all overlap. of course. So in the midst of all of this, I of course have gotten on TikTok and gotten onto lesbian TikTok because that's where every late in life lesbian ends up. Oh, really? Oh yeah, we all end up there. And I come across this one gal's TikTok and she's talking about how she has a discord chat for moms that like women. And I'm like, oh, well, that sounds like right up my alley. So I joined the Discord chat. And this Discord chat is amazing. It is only women. We are all moms, not all married, but all moms. And we just talk about everything and anything, like your podcast. Yeah, yeah, interesting. Love that. And yeah, girls are, moms are meeting up and hooking up and everything.

And I posted just kind of a sexy picture in laundry, nothing too revealing. So people are getting risque too. I mean, they're not just talking about babysitting children and shit like. that. I mean, there's also, oh, God, no. It's hook it up. I mean, that's Discord. I know, because people do that on my Discord. There's like the full on Titty Tuesday, like everybody's posting pictures of their

tits. Yeah, that's my Discord, right? You have that on your Discord too? Yes. Oh, my God. So funny. And so I posted a picture and I just kind of let it out there. And I get a Discord message from this girl and she's, you are fucking gorgeous.

And I was like, oh, my God, thank you. And we start talking. and we pretty much jumped into like, I guess it would be called like cyber sex. I don't know. Is that two 90s? No, I think that makes sense. I don't know. Are you like, what does that entail?

Like you going through an app? Are you going through like FaceTime? I mean, what cyber sex? We were just, I guess like sexting at first. Yeah, yeah. Okay. We jumped right into that and we just start sexting each other. And it's like hot and heavy and great and.

and I'm playing with my toys and she's playing with her toys and we're just having like great phone sex. Okay. Now, how hot is she? Oh, she's gorgeous. Okay. She's, yeah, she's so pretty. And how old are you guys?

Like, how old are you? How old is she? So I am 38 and my girlfriend now, this new girl that I've met in this part of the story is 26. Oh, okay. So you're going for the younger girl. So she's super hot. you guys are now sexting. Yes.

And actually doing phone sex as well. Yes. Okay. So, and then we get, like, it just starts progressing, like, Snapchat, sexy snapschats, sexy videos, pictures sent back and forth. But we're not, like, dating. It's just like this casual, almost, almost like booty calls every now and then. Yeah, yeah.

Now, are you allowed to share that stuff with your guy, or do you keep it just to yourself? Um, like we talk about it. Like, I don't show him pictures or videos or anything. Yeah. You keep that to yourself. Okay, that's private between you and her and that's cool. That's because that's what I was thinking. I was thinking like maybe it wouldn't be cool to show him. Maybe that woman wouldn't want you to. I was wondering what kind of setup you have with your guy. We never discussed it, but we definitely keep like that stuff private between us and our person. Okay, cool. All right. So it's a booty call at this point, right? Online. Yeah, it's very casual. She's married too. So we're just, she states away. We're just kind of. casual. And then I go through the whole thing with my best friend. So this is all overlapping. And then my best friend ends up ghosting me. And so then I start talking to this other girl who states away more. And she kind of went through a similar thing with her best friend. Oh, interesting. So weird. It was like we were mirroring each other's lives. And her best friend

had just had en ghosted her, but had had a really messy. We're not friends anymore. This is over thing. And so we kind of came together and started talking. We got closer and closer. It got more than sexting and everything. We start FaceTiming, just texting daily with each other and stuff. And then pretty soon it's, hey, we should, we should date. Right. Now, her husband obviously is in the know about this as well, right? Like she's got an open marriage too for her to be with other women. Yeah, and my understanding with them is that's kind of how it's been since day one for them. Oh, okay, interesting. So now, how far is she from you?

Is it a plane ride, a two-hour car ride? Oh, it's a plane ride. Okay. Yeah, it's four hours on a plane. Okay, cool. But now, have you guys met up yet? We have met up yet. We have met, sorry, we have met, yeah.

Okay, cool. So tell me about that first experience. So you decide, though, before you even meet each other, you're a real, you're a real thing. like I'm fucking into you more than anything unless we should date. Yeah. Okay. So we're dating long distance before we've met face to face. And so I go down there and visit her for a few days, like I stay and stuff.

And we, of course, I mean, it was kind of weird at first because meeting somebody like face to face after you've had all these discussions and stuff. It's like you go back to dating the first date. Yeah, that is weird because you know so much and you've done so much. much yet. You never been in person. That's like an interesting kind of uncomfortableness. I mean? Yes. Yeah, yeah. But I went down there and we just had a great, we had a great few days together. We were around each other the whole time. We like went to a concert together. We were kind of hesitant towards anything physical at first. And I think it's because it was the first time we were physically

around each other. But then at one point, we were just like, I can't take it anymore. And we just started making out and then that just led to more and then we were having sex and it was again just perfect like sex with women is just so much better that's so interesting but wait where do you guys before i get some details where are you guys staying i mean are you staying in her house with her husband are you did you get a hotel and she's staying with you like where the fuck are you guys hook it up yes okay logistics are weird oh god so i did get a hotel because i didn't want to impose on anything Yeah. And we check into the hotel and we're there for just a little bit and then we go back to her house and we're like, her husband works nights. Oh, okay.

So we ended up just staying at her house and just like making out on the couch and sleeping in the bed and just hooking up at her house. And she was like, well, do you want to go back to the hotel? And I was like, well, do you want to go back to the hotel? And she was like, no, we can just stay here. So I ended up checking out of my hotel and just staying there with her. Right, because it wasn't as uncomfortable as you thought. That's cool. I mean, I get wanting that to have that as a security in case. But once you got there and you realize it was cool.

Now, would our husband come home in the morning and be like, hey, you want me to make you coffee? I mean, like, were you? Kind of. It was kind of funny. Like, he would just be home in the morning and making breakfast or, like, doing whatever. And we're like, oh, hi. And at first I thought this is really awkward. Yeah.

But then I was like, but how else should it be? Yeah, exactly. If he's okay with her and I'm okay with him and everything, like, yeah, it was just easy. But there's no threesomes going on. I mean, he's not watching or anything like that. So now, okay, so let's get back to that first night with her. I mean, this is going to be, I'm assuming, the first night or first time you've ever gone down on a woman, right? Yes.

So how was that for you? It's great. Mm-hmm. It's amazing. I don't know. Like you, again, it's different than going down on a guy. Yeah. But it's better.

I mean, it's just, I don't know. I know, you know things because you are a woman. And when you just like, when you lick them or you bite them a certain way and then they moan or, oh, my gosh, it's just great. So it came naturally to you is what you're saying. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've heard that same thing when I'm. I talk to guys that are into guy on guy action or like they'll say like the guy just gives great

head and it's, you know, probably because he's got a dick. He knows what feels good. You know what I mean? You know, so it, it wasn't like you were like nervous to do it. I mean, it, you knew like you could go down on her and you did it well. Yeah. I mean, I was a little nervous. Yeah. Just because you never have. I mean, I was nervous. I was nervous the whole time because I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't want to, basically my thought was I don't want to suck at this. And her be like, okay, this was a mistake. Yeah, because you guys have been getting it on from afar. Now, when you finally do connect in real life and she's naked and you're naked in real life, like, is the chemistry still as good as you thought it was, you know,

when you were doing your online stuff? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was still just as good. And I mean, and I think, like you said, because we have FaceTime and stuff now, so it was like we've seen each other naked. We've seen each other doing playing with toys and stuff. stuff. So it was kind of familiar in a way. Yeah, yeah, more comfortable. It wasn't like the first time she's seeing you. You guys knew all of that stuff, right? And so did you do anything new with her

that you had never done before besides going down? We didn't, I did buy, we didn't get to use it while I was there. Yeah. But I did buy us one of those grinders. I don't know if you've ever seen those. No, what's a grinder? So it's like a silicone pad and it comes with straps that you can like strap onto like a pillow or your leg. Yeah. And I could put it on my leg and then it's got all this texture and ours has like an actual appendage that you could ride like a dick. Yeah, yeah.

But she could sit on my lap and ride that. Oh, interesting. On my leg. And yeah, it's like just this textured great silicone mat that like hits all the right spots when you're riding it. Yeah, yeah. I've never heard of that. So was, did you get that then?

I mean, how many times have you seen her? Was that a one and done? Yeah, we've only seen each other once. That was a couple months ago. And then we're planning to get back together here. And either she's going to come here or I'll go there, you know, and stuff. But I did order that. And we talked about it.

And I was like, yeah, I've got this for us. Just waiting. Okay, now how does your guy wind up hooking up with his girl? And how did you feel about that? So he got. got on, I don't even know if it was Tinder, he got on a dating site. Yeah. A dating app. And he travels a ton for work. So he's at a state a lot anyway. So when he was at a state, he kind of looked in the area that he's frequently in. Yeah. And he matched with some people. He had some big misses. Like some people that were just like weird. He didn't even meet in person because he just was like, no, I'm not going to go there. But he matched with this gal. And they talked online and over FaceTime and stuff probably for a month or two. And then when he was out there for work, he met up with her and they started dating.

And they've probably been together now for months, not a year or anything, months. And it was kind of weird at first. Yeah, I was going to ask you, that's really what I wanted to know. It's like, how did you feel about all of that? there is definitely a learning curve to it where I know I've given him that pass and he's given me that pass. But there's still like this deep-seated, I should be jealous. But you're not? But yeah, it's like my brain's telling me I should be, but I'm like, but why?

He's still coming home to me and I'm okay with this. Yeah, and I once had a girl on who had been cheated on by her guy. And then eventually she stayed with him, got a free pass. She wound up, hooking up with somebody else and wound up in love with both her husband and this other guy. And it made her really reflect back to the whole cheating situation. That's not what's going on with you, but she was able to understand it and see it differently because she had then experienced it and saw that it was possible that you could be into two people

and one doesn't take away from the other. So I wonder if because here you are very into this other woman. I mean, it's not just a sexual thing. You guys really care about each other. She's your girl. But you also still love your husband. So I wonder if like you could understand it more with him because you're doing the same thing. And you know that one doesn't have anything to do with the other.

Or does it? I don't know. You tell me. Yeah, I think it does help because I can frame it like like I think about it. Like if I'm comparison or doing a comparison, I'm like, oh, he's. talking to her on the phone more than me or something and I'm getting jealous. Then I think about, well, how would he feel if I'm talking to my girlfriend? And oh, I wouldn't want him to feel jealous because I care about them both.

And it's, they don't weigh on each other. Right. Because it doesn't weigh on you. I mean, you don't feel, I mean, this, you falling in love with this other woman hasn't changed your feelings for your husband at all? No. Okay. Yeah.

No. Not at all. So I would think that there's, yeah, go on. If anything, it's almost helped somewhat. In what sense? That's interesting. Because, yeah, because she's different than him, like temperament-wise and stuff, too. So it's sometimes the way she'll react to a different situation and talk me through it or something.

And then it almost helps me have more patience with my husband sometimes. Totally think about it. It's kind of like, you know, every woman's fantasy. Like, you know, you got to. Because men are a problem solvers. women, you know, sometimes don't want a fucking solution. They don't want just so an ear. They just want someone they could vent to.

And so you're getting that from this girl, like that stuff that women really want. And a lot of times men are an intuitive to that because they're men. Men are for Mars, women for Venus total thing. So you're really getting what he lacks with her. And then it probably makes you less needy of those stuff from him. I mean, think about it. Yeah. And like weird things too, like just little things.

Like I hate watching horror movies. Yeah. they freak me out to know when my husband loves them uh-huh well his girlfriend loves them too so they can go watch horror movies together yeah isn't that great that's what i don't know if you listen to jasmine this woman that was on recently her and her guy were really open with each other and then they eventually became polly and at first it was hard she talked about that being like a weird thing at first she was like what the fuck but they both have relationships with other people and she said that she eventually just realized that she can't be everything to him and he can't be everything to him and he can't be

everything to her and they find things in their other people that they can't give each other and everything's great. You know what I mean? Like she likes to really talk dirty, but she can't do that with her guy because he's on it. So she does that with her boyfriend. And you said, you don't want to watch her a movie. So now he goes and does that with his girl. And you're like, I don't have to fucking do it anymore. It's not bad situation. It's actually, it's like, it's like having like your best friend, but there's more benefits. Yeah, yeah. It's not, it's not bad. I mean, so Is there any kind of complications in this kind of situation? I don't even know what you would call what you guys have because it's not a thruple.

You're not together. I mean, you're both, are you guys in a poly relationship? You both have other partners. I mean, what do you call that? We've just been calling it like ethical non-monogamy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense, huh? Because we're not really like a, I guess some people call it a polycule or whatever where like

you're all in the same area together and like doing life together. because we're all so spread out, we just are like, we're just ethically non-monogamous. And I mean, there are weird moments. Don't get me wrong. It's all sunshine and we're all happy with each other. No, there are times like jealousy definitely rears its ugly head. Yeah. And especially with me, I before we went into this whole thing, I would have told you a million

times I could be a very jealous person. Yeah. And I've had to really like internally look into myself and be like, well, what's causing that jealousy. What's at the root of it? Am I feeling like I'm neglected or like I don't have as much, like I need attention from that partner. So you look into it more. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Now, do any of your friends know about this situation? Are you guys pretty open about what you guys are doing? So we haven't been really open about what we've been doing, not like because we're hiding it. Just because like we just haven't been. I recently told my three close.

cis friends that I'm polyamorous, they were all so open, so nice, so, I don't want to say accepting. They were so accepting. Yeah, that's amazing. That's great. Which was great. Our families do not know. They will never know.

Yeah, yeah, especially because he said he came from a very religious background. They don't want to know. Yes. They don't want to know. Yeah, they do not want to know. Don't ever tell them. They would have a stroke. Yeah, yeah.

They don't need to know. It's not their business. But wait, one last question. And what I want to know is because you guys have these other primary partners. I mean, it doesn't sound like you would be looking for anybody else because you sound like a one woman kind of woman. I don't know. You're not looking for a million people. But what about your husband?

Is he happy with that one partner or like when he goes and travels, does he hook up with other people too? I mean, what's going on with him? No, I think when we've talked and stuff, he's pretty much like he's happy just with me and dating his girlfriend. And he pretty much, when he travels for work, he pretty much goes to the same state all the time. And it's right where she's at. So it's perfect. Now, what's her deal? Is she married as well?

Is she a single woman? She's single. She's closer to our age. I don't talk a lot about her just because she's definitely more quiet about the situation. And for some reason, this kind of situation works for her. She's never put pressure for anything more from him? No, not yet. But I mean, they're still, they haven't dated for a year.

They're like maybe eight months in. Yeah. So it's still kind of newish. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, well, listen, any woman that signs up for that, I mean, she knows he's married. He doesn't live there. I mean, she's obviously not available for anything more than that or else she would

have never signed up for this. So if she ever winds up wanting more, it's either the right time for her or she's fooling herself because obviously this works for her for some reason. And you know what I mean? I don't think a woman winds up like that unless she's if she's totally available and wants a white picket fence and a husband every day. It's like somehow this works for her for whatever reason. Yeah, I think this. Yeah, I think this works because, I mean, just from my point of view, like you get some independence still. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you never know. So that's cool. I love this story. It's so interesting. I mean, now, who in this story knows that you're calling into my show? Anyone? Or just. My husband knows. Oh, okay. Your husband does. Okay.

Can you send me in like a pick, anonymous pick of you? Do you know about my Patreon? I post like anonymous picks of my female guests. And then I do have a free discord if you want to go on there. I mean, other people pay for it to get onto it. But because you call into my show, I'll give you a free pass to that. So you could get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's Titty Tuesdays there and all that kind of stuff. There's 1,900 people on there. And it's the same thing in that other discord. I mean, that's what's going down on my discord. Like people are getting dirty because you can. You could, someone told me yesterday like, oh, I talked to somebody through Discord. Like, we had a phone call through Discord. I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that you could do that because I'm never on my Discord.

Yeah, he said, I talked to him through Discord. I don't know. You could send like all kinds of things in pictures. So you could go in there when your episode airs and talk to people. I'll give you a free link to that and send me like a hot pick of yourself. Nothing X rated. I always say R rated sexy picks. Like that's what people send for my Patreon.

But this was great. This is such an interesting story. I want to follow it. I wonder what happens on the line. It's a lot less complicated, I have to say, than Mara's situation. You should listen to her episode. She called in twice. I haven't listened to hers. I need to go listen to hers. Oh, yeah, you should. It's super interesting. And because it's similar to yours, but much more complicated for just a certain reason that you'll be like, oh, happy you're not her because yours is much clearer, I feel like because of the way it's set up and the people and the players of what all your lives are. So I don't worry for you as much as I do for her. But keep me posted if anything major goes down six months from now. But thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story. It was super interesting. Thank you.

Thanks, Danielle. And send me those pictures sooner than later so that I just have everything to do it. Okay. And I'll send you the link to the torture device. Oh, yeah, please. Don't forget that I'm going to put it. And I'll put a link to it in my description of this episode. Okay.

All right. Awesome. Thanks, thanks. Thanks so much for calling in. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that My book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook.

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