Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1223 - Renee Met her new BF Mike when he was a Bull to her & her Husband and Now They’re Swinging Together

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Renee met her new boyfriend Mike when he was a bull for her and her husband and now they’re swinging together and they both called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear them discuss all the details including how and why Renee and her husband opened up their relationship and why it didn’t work out work, how Mike wound up becoming their bull and how they both felt about each other the minute they met, the first time they hooked up solo and what went down and how her husband felt about it, how and why she wound up divorcing her husband for Mike, the rules they had for each other in their own open relationship, what Mike enjoys about sharing Renee with other guys, when they started going to kink and swinger clubs and what they enjoy doing there, the custom glory hole they built at their house and what went down when they used it, how Mike is in charge of vetting all the guys for Renee and what he looks for, why Mike never sleeps with the women they hook up with and what he does with them instead, how Renee is a size queen who also loves fisting, the hook up Renee had with her friend and her husband and exactly what went down, plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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as well as read up on articles and learn about the lifestyle. For your free trial, go to sCC.com and use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Everything I talk about is in the description. Okay, today I have on Mike and Renee. This is a fun episode. They're Stag and Vixen and they're into, you know, MFM threesomes and glory holes and sex clubs and everything. But, you know, what I didn't realize is they had a very interesting backstory, the both of them. Like, they were both like in other relationships and playing separately.

And Renee talks about how her and her husband were looking for a. bull and Mike was their bull and she's not with her husband anymore and she's with Mike so you have to hear that whole story it was super interesting that's what we start with and then we get to the point where they're together and they play a lot together they're into all kinds of things they go to sex clubs they go to kink clubs they are very into mostly the male female male threesome Mike picks all the bulls Renee has nothing to do with it she loves getting fisted they do they mock up glory holes Mike built one, okay? And they have one at their house. They're into all kinds of things. And we talk all about their whole journey. So it's a super interesting story. I have picks of them over on my Patreon.

They'll be in my Discord. So if you want to join, go over there. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Mike and Renee. Hey, Mike and Renee. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you guys today? Good. Thanks. Thanks for having us. It might be tomorrow where you guys are or yesterday. I don't know. I forget where people are in the world, but you have those really great accents that Americans are, well, at least I'm always jealous of. Yeah, it's early Sunday morning here. Oh, yeah, so it is tomorrow. Okay, so listen, Mike and Renee, you guys are a couple. You are in the lifestyle, I would say, you know, you do a lot of things. I saw the word glory hole in your, in your description, you know, you do all that kind of good stuff.

So like, let's get a snapshot of where you guys are at, like how long you guys been together, married, and then, you know, how long you've been doing this kind of stuff. And then we'll go back to the beginning. Sure. We've been together three years or just a little over three years. We met through on Fit Life. And interesting, I was married to someone else at the time. and we met on

FetLife we had a bit of a date and then from there he became our bull for my husband at the time Wait so you're in another relationship that's in the lifestyle you guys are open with your husband

and Mike is your bull Yes My husband at the time He and I decided to venture into the kink scene, I suppose, after being married, we were married for 23 years. And we ventured out together, decided to open our marriage. And that's how we met through FET. And, yeah, it started out as our bull.

And then I reached a point in my life where I knew that for me, my marriage wasn't where I wanted to be. So I ended that. I think there were a few things that happened in my life, a few life-changing events. I lost a couple of people close to me.

Which made me realize life is short and you need to be happy. And I wasn't happy. So I started looking for something that could make me happy. And Mike was there. Mike was right there anyway.

was there from the beginning. He was there, yeah. And for me, I think opening up my marriage with my husband was trying to put a band-aid on a problem, what I thought was a small problem, trying to fix maybe. I thought we could fix things or spice things up a little bit. But that wasn't quite, it wasn't, that wasn't the problem I needed to venture out on my own or do things that I've never done before that I didn't think I'd ever be able to do in my marriage.

Yeah, no, that's very honest of you. And, you know, sometimes how could you know? Like sometimes that's how you do figure things out. You didn't know. You thought, oh, something's lacking here. Maybe if we spice up our sex life, it's just going to add to it and that'll be the fix. But when you did that and it spiced things up and there's still a problem, then you realize, oh, it's bigger than that.

So sometimes I think, you know, how could you really know? And I wonder how many people, I just spoke with a woman I aired today, a sex therapist, and her and her husband did the same exact thing. They opened up their marriage as kind of like a fix. Like, let's, you know, we're kind of stale. Things aren't that great. Let's open up. And that also was the demise of their thing because it didn't work out. And I'm sure there's a lot of couples that that's kind of the story. You know, it is interesting. And I like to show all kinds of stories because I think people could learn from them. So do you fuck any other bulls besides Mike? No.

Oh. Wait, let me get my, wait, I need to get Mike story. Like, where were you at Mike in your life where you hit up this couple, you know, to, and you're going to be like their bull? What were it going on with you? Were you married? Were you single? Were you divorced? So I, I recently, my marriage had recently broken down. And so I was venturing out as a newly single bloke. And, yeah, I thought I dabbled with a stag vixen lifestyle with my ex-partner, Max-wife. And so I thought, oh, I might as a bull.

Interesting. And so pretty much. And, yeah, I haven't really done much dabbling in it before I met Renee. And then, yeah, so pretty much the first couple ended up being the bull with. Oh, you talk about it. Oh, my God. And you wind up, and you both wound up to right where you were before, Stag and Vixen. You know, it's kind of interesting.

So wait, Renee. So Renee, you and your husband are like on Fat Life looking for a guy, right? That's like your thing. Now, what was it about Mike that made you pick him as the one, as your bull, your first bull? This may sound really weird, but it was like it was fate. We had our very first, where we met, we were chatting on. line for a little while, maybe, you know, for a few days, maybe a week or so, we decided to just meet for drinks.

It was very, very vanilla drinks at a local bar. And from there, that there was something between us that just wouldn't go away. And it was like, there was, and even to this day, there's still something, there's something about him that drives me absolutely crazy. Now, let me ask you this, because sometimes people could smell this stuff like the other person in the relationship, you know, and they can't put a finger on it, but they could tell there's like, you know, maybe something more going on there. Like, did your husband sniff anything out between you and Mike before the demise? Like, did he start thinking like, oh, there's something, this is like a little bit too much chemistry over here and you're paying more attention to him? Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. He definitely knew that it wasn't a normal bull and hot wife situation. I was going out quite often and we were meeting up a lot. It was multiple times a week. Yeah, he knew it was definitely, and he did, used to refer to Mike as my boyfriend. Dead of our bull. Yeah, well, let me, because he was like, and it was like, kind of like a Freudian slip really because that's really what was going down.

Now, did you guys go into you and your husband right before you're with Mike, do you guys go into this whole bull thing saying you're going to play solo or he's going to be involved? Like what was the setup? Was it just solo playing him home waiting for the stories? That's how it started. And to be honest, we really probably didn't see many boundaries for ourselves. We were new.

into the lifestyle and we probably didn't do our research properly or before we just screw our down. Let me tell you, he just let you go off with this guy that you had this connection with solo right from the beginning. I do think, sorry to say, I do. And plenty of people do solo play and they're successful at it and stuff. It's not the solo play that's the problem. Solo play is a problem when you have like maybe something that's like maybe not right

at home because solo play a lot of times does. lead to somebody forming a connection with somebody else because they're like with that other person all the time. Like you said, you're going out like three times a week. He's like starting to call him your boyfriend. Your husband's not involved. I think there, you know, there is, I always feel like when a couple starts to play solo, you have to make sure you're doing it in the right way because there is a potential for things to go south more so than if you're playing together all the time. Don't you think? Correct. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So he like sent you off with your, you know, this guy that you have all this chemistry with.

So would you just go home and tell him about what you and Mike would do? And how was it? Well, let me ask you guys this. And Mike, you could chime into. Like, how was the sex the first time you guys hooked up? It was for me, for someone who had only been with one person her entire life. I'd been with my husband since I was 17. He was my first and my only.

It was amazing. I think we, We went out, we were supposed to go out for dinner. We went to the restaurant. We sat there on a couch just having a couple of drinks kissing. Probably that lasted a maybe good half hour before we decided that we weren't actually hungry for food. We're hungry for each other. So we drove half an hour back to his place and, yeah, we're, I think.

think we ended up having sex three or four times. Oh my God. Before I went home to my husband. Now, Mike, was it amazing for you too? Was this the first couple, by the way, Mike, that you had hooked up with? Like, after being out and going out there? Or had you been with other couples too? I tried to hook up with one couple, but it just felt forced.

But I was just weird. I was just, it was a train, almost like a transaction. I was just there. And so I didn't perform. I walked away with, it wasn't a very good experience. And I didn't. So yeah, this was the first couple. I actually had a proper, proper, sort of play, play session with.

Yeah. Now, did you, Renee, did you, like, tape things or take pictures? Like, how was, like, while you were there for, your husband or was he just wanting to hear the details when you got home? Like how was he involved in this hookup considering he wasn't there and you banged him like three times?

So I suppose for us again that's where we failed to set the proper boundaries because I didn't that first night I didn't take any photos or any videos and I went home and yes I did tell him

about it and he loved that he loved hearing all about it and he was excited and then we then had sex you know it's not long after I got home after I finished telling him all about it you know so and that carried on like that for you know for a few months so

I would go out I would have sex with Mike and then I'd go home to my husband and tell him about it we really didn't do any videos and we may have done the odd photo, but that was meant more for me as being for me, a big and a big exhibitionist rather than to for my husband. We really didn't do any videos and we may have done the odd photo. That was meant more for me as being for me big and a big exhibitionist rather than to for my husband.

Yeah. So when did things start going south? And like was he the one? that started confronting you about spending too much time or did you start saying like you're having feelings for Mike? Like how does the how you know what's the beginning of the end for you and your hubby? I did start venturing out a lot probably too much. He didn't actually say that I was spending too much time but I from our interactions together I knew he wasn't happy with the amount of time that I was with Mike. We did have a couple of arguments and disagreements. when he would find out I had done things or I had planned things without talking to him. I started not involving him.

Even more. I mean, it doesn't sound like he was that involved to begin with. And that's where you guys didn't do things right, like you said already. And now you're involving him even less. It's like you're having a totally separate relationship, which to me is very different. A lot of times these kinds of hot wife stack, these stack things are about the other person being involved. Even though they're not there, there's ways to keep them involved. and you guys weren't doing that and now you're even going more off without him.

So do you eventually, like who goes to who about ending things? I go to him. All of a sudden it came to me that this wasn't where I wanted to be. I wasn't happy and that I, I had to end things, which I did. Was he horrified that you ended things for Mike? Did he know that you were like leaving him and staying with Mike? I think at the time he knew that I was ending things to with him and going to, my plan was to continue with Mike. Yeah.

So yeah, he was, he was horrified. He was heartbroken. He was horrified and not broken. Yeah, because think about the regrets he would have. Because think about the regrets he would have. I mean, he sent you off, you know, for his own sort of pleasure to go be. with this guy and now because he allowed that to happen, he's being dumped. You know, from his standpoint, he's probably like, oh my God, if I could just go back in time and not fucking do that.

You know what I mean? Maybe I could have got five more years with her. You know, because it really was like that was the thing and he took part in it. So I could imagine how fucked he would feel, you know, that would be a real big regret for him, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And I think, yeah, he still regrets it to this day. I thought I'm, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Live and learn. Big, bad lesson he learned, right? For sure. Now, let's get to your guys' relationship. I hope you guys don't play solo.

Do you always play together? We don't and we never have. And you never should. Don't do it. Yeah, we do everything together. And like, I love it. For me, having Mike around grounds me. And I think it makes our connection stronger.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and even the ones that play solo, it should be about making the connection stronger, and that's where certain things are in place to still make it be about that person that's home waiting. But you didn't have that, and they're in light the problem. So, Mike, let me ask you this. When she leaves her husband, are you already, like, you know,

emotionally connected to her that you're happy and you want to be with her and have a relationship with her and, you know, change the whole dynamic? Yeah, pretty much. I guess, As time went on with playing as the ball, I guess at some point, I decided that, yeah, I kind of wanted to make her mind, I suppose, if that makes sense. Yeah.

And then, yeah, inadvertently, yeah, I guess we almost had an affair behind his back without sort of realizing it. Yeah, for sure. That's unfortunately what can happen. Shit happens. Sometimes people think, like, oh, people are going to be like, oh, you guys are so terrible and stuff. But to me, it's all about intention.

And, you know, what was the intention? Your guys at the beginning of this, the intention was not to fall in love and leave, you know, Renee's husband in the dust. You know, that would be manipulative. That would be all the things that people might think, you know, you guys are because of what happened. But that's not the truth. The intention was to have some fun. This was about something Renee was doing with her husband.

And then this happened by accident. And that happened sometimes in life. Like, that's just, unfortunately, the way things go. But I think when someone's intention isn't bad, you can't judge them and be like, oh, what a bitch. You know what I mean? She left her husband for the bull, like whatever. Because like I said, it wasn't your intention. It's what happened.

Mike's intention wasn't to steal this guy's girl. You know, his intention was he's free, finally single. He's going to go have some fun. You're not thinking you're going to go meet your next girlfriend, right? Or wife, I don't know. Are you guys married, by the way? We're not. Okay.

We're both married to our exes. Oh, okay. You're not divorced yet. Okay. We're both married just not to each other. Yeah, but you've been dating ever since for the three years. You get into immediate relationship. And you decide, so tell me those initial conversations like you guys decide to start, like remain in the lifestyle, doing all the fun things that you were doing, but doing them together. And then do you start to create some boundaries with each other? We actually created our boundaries right from the very beginning. Okay. When we decided that we were going to be together.

we decided we were going to be exclusive and we set our boundaries and we made them very clear. And what were those boundaries? Exclusivity like meaning what is exclusive mean? So we only play together. We don't go out and date anyone else. We don't go out and play alone. I, you know, I get a lot of messages from guys. I don't reply to those without his not.

knowledge or his input. He knows about everything that I do. So anything that we do and like that is always together. And what are the kind of things that you guys are into? Like you, Renee, do you get into hooking up with girls too? Do you guys just do couple swabs? Do you like just having like MFMs like with another third guy there? Like what's the thing that you guys are really into? Or are you open to everything? So I am by. Mike is straight. We do enjoy inviting other girls to come and join us. When it's other girls, they're more like friends and her and I, so like that we hang out and then they might come over and things just evolve.

And that's really exciting, you know, hooking up with your friend. But mainly we actually have other single guys come and join us. That's what we do the most. Oh, that's what you enjoy. The most. Yeah. And that's what Mike actually, even though he's straight, that's what he enjoys, is having another guy come and watching me with another guy and then he gets to reclaim me afterwards.

And Mike, is that all about what other people say like compersion, just like seeing her being pleasure. It is like pleasurable for you? Yeah, I guess. And I guess it's an extension of almost a form of bragging. Oh, I got it. Mm-hmm. So it's like, send them home.

and then for me it's like, you know, they go home and then three days later when they're having the jerkin at home thinking about that blow job that they just got a couple of days ago. I get that every day, that sort of thing. You know, it's like a, yeah, bragging, really. Yeah, somebody said it recently and then somebody else has quoted it, and now I'm going to bring it up all the time. And it was FitWife Jules. And she said, you know, the way she likes to explain the whole hot wife. thing or when the guy that you know or her husband explains why what he enjoys a lot about sharing her and he he used the reference like of uh you know say he has like a really nice Porsche right he just got

this like beautiful car and he loves it so much that he wants to like lend it to his friends so he could take a drive and see just how like fucking killer you know what I mean and then he brings it back and it's his Porsche it's that kind of bragging right guys do that with their nice cars it's no different it's that same thing I was like wow what a great analogy it explains it perfectly. That's perfect. Yeah, that's exactly what you were saying. But you know what?

You took it even further. I love that you use the word bragging in the way you explained the Porsche analogy with just your wife. And it was very clear. It's like you're bragging like, this is my girl. This is what I have. And she's so great. And I'm going to show you how great she is.

But she comes back to me. So it's not like a weak kind of thing where you're, because sometimes people are like, oh, man, let their wife go fuck someone else. but it's not really like how people are seeing it. You know, it is much more of like you said, you're bragging. It's like,

you know, you're feeling great about yourself. Yeah, exactly. For me, it's like, I'm bright, I'm showing off.

I'm allowing you just a little sample of what I get every day. Yes, like that car. Yeah. All right. So what do you guys start doing first? Like, do you start going to swinger clubs?

I know you do glory holes. I know, like, you know, you're on Fets or are you like looking for couples, uh, girls, mostly guys.

Like, take me, like, from the start of you guys being together and now your journey in the lifestyle. So, in New Zealand, things are a little bit limited in regards to what's available parties and event-wise. We do go to munches and we do go to local parties, private parties, but more kink related in people's homes, not really swingers. and we travel about if we want to go to a club we travel about an hour and a half nearly two hours to go to a club. That's a long time. There's a people on my show that had like a house that they built and I think they were from New Zealand.

I have to look into it where they were from. I feel like it might have been New Zealand. They have these parties, these swinger parties and they started them because it's hard to fight. So did you first go to a club together? What did you guys do first? like when you started out together. Clubs, the club and the private local parties was what we were doing together.

And then we shifted for a while where we didn't go to any events and we just invited people to us. And we would advertise on FET and Reddit and a couple other local sites we would advertise for guys to come and join us. And we did that for probably for at least a year. And we stopped going to events for a little while and worked on that. And then I personally had the need to go, being a really big exhibitionist, so I felt the need, the pool to go back to events. And so we started back. Keep going.

we started going back to the club that's two hours away. And that's more of a kink club. So it's sex-friendly. You can have sex, you can hook up with other people, but it's very much a BDSM sex club, a kink club. So they have impact scenes, some rope. And then it's very themed. So you dress up to a theme or they might have games or something along those lines.

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Is it at that club? Or do you go to other places for that? That actually come up from, oh, we'd gone to, well, up in Auckland, it was a place which had a glory hall's there. We'd gone there, visit it there, and she'd been in there, and we enjoyed it. And then we decided to host a couple of parties. And for one of the parties that we ended up hosting, I built a glory hole for it. and then it's kind of evolved and gotten a better use with one of our friends that we've added.

So we've actually advertised the glory hall on Reddit and opened it up to almost the public, you know, make bookings and vetted them slightly. And then, yeah. And then, did you have the makeshift glory hole in your house and you would set up like events and do it there? That's how it started. So we had a couple of parties and we had the glory hole set up so the girls could sit or the guys either or could sit in the glory hole and do it that way. And then we decided we were bored, a friend and I were bored one night.

And so we thought, let's set the glory hole up at the front door and stick it out there and say, who wants a blow job? And we were very successful. we had a large number of people turning up on my doorstep. And were you the only person on the other side given the blowjobs? I mean, it was all you? No. I had a friend with me as well.

You and your girlfriends. Her and I, we worked together and we did it like, it was a really good night. And yeah, we've done that a few times now. And do you enjoy that? Like, is that a big turn on for you, Renee? It is. I do enjoy it, especially, you know, Mike's sitting. right there behind me watching me.

And that's my biggest turn on is seeing him watch me. Him turned on. And where do you get these girls? Are these just your girlfriends or like their girlfriends from the lifestyle now that you go to these clubs and stuff or the girls that you've brought home and like been with? They are girls that I've met through Fet on Fet. And we've become friends.

So we go to Munches together. We even go. We go op shopping together. that we do a lot of vanilla type stuff because we're more friends now, but we're very much in the lifestyle. So, and so are they. So then we also do the other stuff as well. So when you do the threesome, so Mike is always around.

And they're like full threesome. Like Mike isn't sitting on a chair just watching. Like you were always involved in the threesome, Mike? He's always involved, yeah. I'm basically the director. This is my own private thing. And Renee, what kind of? guys do you like and pick for your threesome? Like, what's your thing? I, I actually don't pick the guys.

I have nothing to do with picking the guys. So this is even more interesting. Tell me that why and who does and what's that process? Because for me, when the guys come and join us, it's not for my pleasure. It's solely for Mike's pleasure. So I have nothing to do with the picking of the guys that's solely on right. And so for me, I don't really care, really, who they are, what they're like or anything like that. They're just there to help me do a job. Okay, but you must, like, trust Mike on some level that he's not, like, Mike must be a good vetter that you give him all this, you know, rain to, like, you know, all this, like,

allowance to pick the guys. Like, Mike, what kind of guys do you pick for her? for me it's for me personally it's more about the personality and talking to them like chatting to them or whatever yeah and a lot of guys

are douchebags with the way they come across and you know they think they're coming in oh I'm going to perform better than you can it's not about that I mean it's not because I'm not well hung I'm a decent size

the truth is like trying to find guys that are more well-hung, like stretcher, is hard. Most guys end up being smaller than me, which is, yeah, and it gets a bit frustrating

sometimes. So, yeah, for me, like, we would prefer well-hung dudes, but end of the day, it's the personality and the way they come across that, that wins with me and choose in selecting guys. And do you have any regular bowls? Do you tend to be one and done? Do you have a lot of guys

that you've been with, Renee? We have a few that we have had over a number of times and they still chat with Mike every now and again. They'll send him a message checking in, just, you know, putting the feelers out there to see if we're looking for anything. So we do prefer guys that are more available. Like we don't, we'd rather not. have it just the one once guy come once. We would rather meet them. We like to have a drink, a bit of a social interaction, and then we get, you know, then whatever else follows, the threesome, and whatever, and then we'd like to keep in touch with them and have regular sessions with them. So how many good guys have you found in this? I mean, you've been doing this for three years, right?

We have. We've been doing it yet, doing it for three years. And honestly, we've probably only found maybe about a handful, you know, five or six, decent guys that we have really connected with and have had multiple situations with. Yeah, well, that's kind of a lot, I think, over three years to have five or six. That's a good amount, I think. You've been lucky if you ask me. I think it's hard to find, right? I mean, come on.

It is. It is really hard to find. Many of them, we meet once or they come over once. and we never see them again. And that's mainly that's our choice. They just don't, they're not, they don't fit into what we're looking for. And give people like...

Yeah, no, go on. Sorry, go on, Mike. There's been times when I've kicked them out in the middle of the session because they just aren't the right vibe or whatever. Well, and Mike, I don't know what you look like, but you sound fucking scary, okay? Like, you sound like a big dude

that could beat the shit out of somebody. I don't know why. I picture my head the guy on Mobland. I don't know. You're just like what your voice sounds like. I'm picturing you just from your voice being some guy that's very intimidating. So I'm like, if you're throwing somebody out there like, bye-bye. I don't know if I'm right, but that's what I think.

I don't think of somebody, but I'm totally it. Yeah, it's in your voice. I can hear it. But wait. So for all those guys that, you know, want to be a bull and want to be accepted for a couple, because I'm always kind of thinking like, how do I teach my audience, you know, what to do, what to do? Like, what are the reasons that guys have been kicked out or not invited

back? Like, what are the things that you should not do so that this doesn't happen to you? Like, what were the reasons? I was one, I guess it was just mucking around and, yeah, I didn't know what the hell he was. But I was in that mindset. I wanted this now sort of thing, found a dude online, bought him over and he was mucking around, fart-assing around. I was, oh, you just mucking around piss off. What does macking around mean in New Zealand? like talking and not doing anything like he didn't get right to the business?

No, he was more fumbling with his trying to get it. Oh, that's what it means. He was struggling to, you know, he was trying to jerk off and at this point. And I must say, this is four o'clock in the morning. So we had been, we had been to an event. We had come home. We had driven two hours. to an event, we'd had an awesome night at the event. I think I had, at that point, I'd sucked four guys off and I'd had sex with someone at the club. We came home, Mike still wasn't satisfied.

So he spent all night trying to find someone to come over. I fell asleep at about 2 o'clock. And I woke up, I woke up, Mike woke me up at 4 o'clock saying there's someone here, wake up. Oh my God, hilarious. So I did. I woke up. I got myself ready quickly. And then the guy came in, but then that was it. He, I don't know, whether or not he was shy or he wasn't prepared for what he walked into or what it was. But then he couldn't perform and Mike just turned around and just told him to get out. And what are some of the other reasons that you've only picked the five or six, you know, good ones? Is it typically like they can't perform or

they're awkward or they don't fuck good? Like, what are some of the other reasons? Just generally speaking. Sometimes, most, it is cock size. If it's too small, for me personally, I struggle with, I can't feel. If it's too small, I can't, and I can't feel it. It's no fun for me. I need to be able to feel it.

So they don't normally get a corp. Right. So with size, like you're used to a bigger size. And unfortunately, you know, if you are with someone for a long time that is bigger, you do get used to it. And it's hard. I had a real, a boyfriend with a really big dick. And it was like hard for me to get unwired to need that afterwards. You know, after a while of not being with him, it was different. But if you're with, if your guy, Mike here, right? You're saying he, like, it's hard for him to find people that bigger. If you're used to that, it's hard to go smaller. If you weren't with Mike for 10 years, you probably wouldn't have that problem. But because that's who you're, like, you're. primary partner is, I think it makes sense. Yeah, yeah. So then I do struggle with anything smaller. A little bit smaller, absolutely fine. And I can have a lot of fun with that. But there are some of, you know, guys that are online looking that just don't cut it for me.

Yeah. Now, let's talk about sometimes when a girl is around and like, you know, what do you, do you enjoy seeing him with another woman? Is he allowed to fuck the other girls? Is that something that you're into? So we've had a few women join us, but Mike actually hasn't fucked any of them. And he has said to me each time he's like, look, I'm okay with not fucking them. That's not.

He just wants to have fun. And for him, his thrill is having blow jobs and giving facials. He loves that. Oh, you love to jizz and girls' faces, Mike? Yeah, that's my thing. Have you always been into that? Yeah. What were you going to say?

Oh, what was it? Sorry? No, no. I was just going to say. So for him, he's quite happy to sit there and have his dick sucked and come all over, you know, a girl's face rather than, you know, to fuck her. Yeah, interesting. But do you get off on that? Like, do you find that, like, I mean, it sounds kind of like this because you said even

when you're with the guys, it's really for his pleasure. Do you enjoy watching him get a blowjad from another woman? Like, do you have that kink yourself? Or is it just like, oh, it's about his pleasure? Like, what's your deal? So when we've done a bit of, we've done a bit of group stuff. And yes, I have enjoyed watching Mike and over in the other corner or next to me while someone else is sucking his dick.

that's but when it's just another girl and I and Mike so just a threesome and another girl it's more of me and her tag teaming him yeah I get it and working together and I like I'm a bit of a like I feed off other people's energy so I'm like having someone else around in using her to help me tease Mike yeah is what gets me off so it's all about Mike too at that point even it's like when you're and she's just how she's like your helper when you said mentioned before that your glory hole sometimes it's a guy on one side or the girl what like does do you sometimes do the glory hole with the woman on the other side and what is that like guys are just going in and like like you know is she just is it like a reverse glory hole like how does

it work when you said sometimes it's a man or a woman so when we have our private parties and our glory hole is available for anyone to use sometimes some of our bisexual friends guys might get behind there. Oh, so it's still blowing. They want to, they can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying because I know that like Erica, who's been on my show has been in Gloryholes where they're set up where she could actually get fucked on the other side

of a glory hole. You know, it's more about she puts like, you know, it's set up a little bit different, not just for blow jobs, that kind of a thing. That's what I was wondering if you do that as well. So Al can be modified. So Mike did when he built this, he made. He built it so it could be modified. and he could change it.

So it could be both. It can be both. Oh my God. That's so funny. Now, have you tried DP, DVP, like, are you into all that kind of stuff, Renee? I am. I love, like I love fissing, being fisted, and we've only really done DP with dildos ourselves, simply because we haven't found that guy, that right guy with the right penis.

Yeah. Give it a go. So we do a lot of that with our dildos. But it's definitely something on our fuck it list to cross off as soon as we can. Well, listen, you didn't, you know, the whole time I went to this whole thing with the size queen thing, no wonder why you're also into being fisted. I mean, that also gives you the reason why, you know, you need, you're used to being filled up now? Yes. Yeah, no, I absolutely love it.

I can't get enough of it. Yeah, well, when did you get into that with your ex-husband? or is that something new that you did with Mike? Like when did you start getting fisted? I was definitely interested in it with my ex-husband. And he was, I suppose, the one that, you know, so like trained me. So like got me to the point where I knew that I could easily take a fist. Yeah.

He never actually fisted me. Mike was the first one to fist me. But now it's no problem to get a fist inside me. And we've had friends come over just to do that task. Just to miss me. Because they know that you're down for it. And it's probably like a rare thing. Yeah.

Yeah. There's not many girls that I've met that are into that. And Mike, were you had ever fisted anyone before? Was this the first time when you got into it with Renee that you were with someone that enjoyed that? Or that you got her into it? I'd spend a bit of time fisted anyone. fisting my ex. I'm not a lot, but yeah, we've gone into a bit of that before.

So, yeah, and then it was, so, involving for fisting with Renee was, yeah, should we try this? Oh, okay. And the way we went. I mean, you must be, like, do you do it, like, when you're at these clubs and stuff, Renee? Because it must be, like, you know,

a lot of people come over to watch. I don't know. It's like a party trick now. I have. I have been fisting. at a club. I was in a swing, a sex swing. And Mike was fisting me. And I had about six other guys surrounding me with their hands everywhere on my boobs, you know, any bit of me that they could touch. They were, yeah, they were in. Yeah. So now you guys go to these kink clubs and stuff and

you said like munches and everything. Are there, like, what are the other things that you're into when you go to these theme nights and stuff? Like, what goes down? We actually mostly go for the socialising when we go to the clubs. That's what we do. A lot of the stuff that we do, we do the odd thing at the clubs. We might have sex. We don't really do any impact or anything like that.

If we do go to a club, it's normally just sex with other people or with ourselves. We're big just to go have sex with each other. We do that a lot. I think for me it's also having been, you know, know, having other people watch us is a big thing. Yeah, because you said you're a big exhibitionist. You love that, right? Like, that's a big part of it.

Yeah. And Mike, do you enjoy that too? Oh, I love it. I love the power of, yeah, just showing off and, yeah, people watching it. Yeah, it's a weird kind of power it gives me, I suppose. Now, you did say at some point that sometimes, you know, you guys like set things up at home or when you were and, you know, Mike would go online and be like, Oh, invite people over. Did you ever have more, like, do you ever do the thing where you have more than one guy involved in a threesome and you're doing multiple guys, Renee?

Like, did you ever do set it up that way? Or was it always just like one guy and Mike and you? We've no, it's normally only being just one other guy and Mike and myself. However, in saying that a couple of weeks ago, we ended up with two guys here. And, yeah. And so, and that was a good, that was a good day. It lasted all day, actually. Yeah, that was a good weekend, yeah.

A whole weekend? Well, listen, you had three guys to service because we can't forget, Mike's there too, you know? So it's like two guys and Mike and you. Yeah, no, it was a really good, and they were good guys. They were more mature guys, which is always good. We, you know, Mike and I were in our 40s. So having more mature guys actually suits us. So we were, we vived, we chilled, we chilled, we did. drink coffee and we thought.

Ridae, do any of your girlfriends that are a part of your vanilla life, you know, like, do they know about what you do or is this like a secret life that you have with Mike? It's very secret. I keep a very secret from my family and my friends, my vanilla friends. My best friend, though, is well aware of it. There was a short period when Mike and I first started, after I, left my ex-husband just before Mike and I made it out exclusive. I did go visit my girlfriend for my birthday. I had a few too many drinks. So did she. And I actually had a recent with

her and her husband. Oh my God. You're kidding. I didn't think I did not see that coming. I want that story. It's kind of hot. That's kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So and she was actually, they were actually my very first threesome. Wow. It was the, The best night that I've had, I had ever, actually. Wait, because this is your girlfriend that you know, like, a long time. And so that means you obviously know her husband a long time, right? Yeah. Well, funny enough, her husband and my ex-husband are like school, like best mates from school.

Oh, my God, this is very layered. So, and you're not with your husband at this time anymore, right? No. I'm not with my husband. Oh my God, so it's kind of naughty. It's a lot of things all at once going on in this scenario. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So I'm, so, yeah, so, yeah, so my husband and his school friends were very close, a very close group of guys. And so they continued to hang out long after school and into their, their working lives. And all the wives would then also hang out. So we became very close. Mm-hmm. And she was my best friend. is my best friend.

Yeah, but did you ever feel any kind of chemistry there? Did she know that you were by? Like, how do you, I mean, listen, I know that with alcohol, when you involve alcohol into something like these things can happen, right? It's just a fact. So, but like before that night, when you guys were tipsy, were you attracted to her? Did you ever feel a vibe with her?

Did she know that you were like into women? No. No, I had never ever told her that I was into women, by she had never said anything to me of you know of the sort but yeah i suppose i was going through a bit of a rough patch so i'd gone to her for a bit of like help and support and during and we were drinking it was my birthday yeah and during that time i decided to share with her that i was on fit oh okay so that's how the conversation starts with you sort of saying telling her you're a little freaky yeah yeah and so that's what that's how it started oh my gosh

And so how does it get to the point where you're in bed with them and like explain the whole story? It's kind of interesting story. So we were sitting at the table drinking. And so like, so I was at the head of the table. They were either husband and wife, were either side of me. I was in the middle showing my photos on fit. And I could tell I was, that was turning him on. He was getting really excited.

And then I don't know what came over me, but it was me that made the first move. I put my hand on his leg. Wow. Under the table. So I made the first move. And that's not me normally. I don't do that. But, and then he left the room for whatever reason.

And she said to me, would I like, she's so like indicated. She asked me. Yeah. Do I want to have sex with them? He came back. She asked him. She said, no. She said, yes, no, she's keen.

but are you sure knowing that my ex and him were best friends? She said, you realize this could ruin your friendship? He said he didn't care. And then that was it. I mean, your ex-husband never found out, right? No, he has no idea.

So you wind up and you hooked up with both of them, like she's by, you were with her, you were with the husband, like a full-fledged three-stop? Yeah, we hook up. Yep, hook up with both of them. we had sex together, then she decided that she would go to bed by herself, and he stayed,

and him and I carried on, and we had sex, oh, to the early hours of the morning. It was a very long night. Wow. Now, do you know, do they still have an open relationship, or was that a one-time thing with you? Do you know, like, what she did afterwards, or was that something that they always did together? Do you know? I have a feeling. It's something that they do.

Yeah, I think so, too. they were both. I mean, I feel like they had you positioned properly that night. I mean, one's on one side of you and the other. And then he excuses himself so she could ask the question. I think this is their M.O. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I think, yeah, it will set up. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So she knows that you and Mike now roll that way too? Yes. Yes. She's, I think he's well aware that we live a very different lifestyle to most people. Now, do you ever hook up with that? Like, how come there's no other hookups now that you're both kind of into the same thing? They actually live nearly four hours away from us.

Oh, okay. So it's distance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, distance. Yeah. Let me ask both of you now. So we got like 10 minutes ago.

Each one of you could answer this. Like, how is your open relationship now? I mean, you both kind of dabbled in it with other people, you know? How is it different with you guys and how is it just overall having such an open relationship with someone that you really care about? and doing it successfully. Like, what is it like and how does it affect your relationship? I guess it's just the being doing it totally together.

And, yeah, it's just that level of connection and trust. It's something we do together, not separate. It's not, you're off doing that thing and I'm off doing this thing. This is a journey together, not separately. But you did do it with your ex-wife. So, like, how is it different doing it with, Renee compared to your ex because, you know, she's an ex for a reason. So, you know, with my ex. Well, we dabbled in a stag and vix and thing, but then she decided that

being an escort was a good idea. Oh, my God. Would she need the money? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, for her, like, we were struggling a little bit, but I didn't think, like, we weren't struggling that much. She might have the king. Yeah. That was a good idea. But we hadn't got to a point where we were

playing. At that point, we were only playing together. So of course, suddenly being forced into this position where she's off doing her own thing, I basically went from being a stag to feeling very cut.

Yeah, and you're not into that. And that was not a situation of light. And, yeah, that caused, so that was sort of the beginning of the end. And then so when it broke down, I vowed that it became, it wouldn't be playing separately. At all, yeah, yeah. Listen, you knew that before you saw what happened with Renee, your next girl, talk about. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you know, why you shouldn't. But, I mean, do you feel like that, because you both been in other marriages and other relationships for a long time, Do you feel, because a lot of times, like what a couple say, there is something about opening up a relationship that increases the communication and makes a sex better and you feel more intimate and closer with each other because of it, even though some people would think it would be the opposite. Like, what is it like having such an open sexual? Like, it's very open sexually, but how does it affect like the rest of your relationship being open? It's made, our relationship just keeps getting stronger for it. We're very, I'm submissive, he's very dom. So, and that carries through in our everyday life.

It doesn't matter what we're doing. I'm always submissive. He's always dominant in our relationship. So, and for me, you know, most guys, they contact me. So, you know, he'll ask me, have you had any messages tonight? And I either give him my phone. I've got no issue doing that. he has my phone, you know, and reads the messages themselves, or we sit down each night and

go through the messages and then we might reply together or he'll tell me don't reply to someone, you know, don't waste your phone. So everything is just open and, yeah, and I've got no, if I've got any concerns, I just ask, you know, I've got no problems in asking him. I know that he's got no problems with me asking him any questions and he's very open and honest with me. Do you guys plan on getting married or like do you have no desire for that because you've been married before but you're like, you know, in it for the long run with each other? I suppose we'd both have to get divorced first in order for that to happen. What's taken so long? It's three years. It's three years now. Yeah. No, well in New Zealand you have to be separately, legally separated for

two years before you can get a divorce. Oh, really? We can both now get divorces but we just haven't done the paperwork. You just got to go through with it. Oh, that's. So interesting. If you're, I mean, does your, like, what's the, my last question is like, what's the status with your ex? Do you have, first of all, Renee, do you have kids with your ex-husband? I do. I have three.

So you're connected to him. Right. So you're connected to him for, you know, for, forever, right, because of the kids. So I'm wondering, because Mike is still in the picture and he's a thorn in the side. Like, I mean, is that a big problem between your guys, like, co-parenting and stuff? Like, does he still hate Mike? Has he learned over time to deal with him? Like, what's the deal?

I would say he's learned over time to deal with him. Yeah. Co-parenting, you know, what I do for a living, I see a lot of separated parents trying to parent through separation. So from my work life, I have to like learn what works, what doesn't work. So I really work and work really hard at making sure that my relationship with my X works for us and our children. Yeah, which is so important. So he was able though to, because listen, I think it's really hard to get past the fact of like, you know, kind of like you did kind

have an affair, right? And you're still with that person. So I think that's like always hard for the other person, especially if they still have to deal with you to get used to because Mike's not going anywhere. He's like in your life. He's your guy now. And so I was wondering how he worked through it. So, you know, he's cool with Mike now. Is he with other, is he with someone else? You're his husband? He has, he's still in the kink scene himself. Yeah. Oh. Occasionally we might come, you know, end up at events and he's there. Oh. Oh, we're okay with that. We, you know, we don't have any problems with, with that. He does have a couple of play partners that I'm aware of. Yeah. And I have no problems, you know, seeing him with other people. And he, he doesn't

have any problem seeing me with Mike either. Yeah. You know, like, listen, that's, That's like a testament to like life goes on. You know what I mean? Like three years later, like that's where your guys at. Even with this horrible ending, like life does go on and everyone's, you know, in other places. But you're all good. And it sounds like such a small world in New Zealand that you know, my God, you bump into him. And he moves into you.

That's crazy. Listen, you guys, if you listen to my show, I always ask if people, if you want to send in pictures for Patreon. My Patreon pictures should just be like, you know, kind of hot, like nothing like X-rated or anything, you know, for Patreon. if you want to send me in picks of you guys, anonymous picks for my Patreon. I'll give you free access to that for a month so you could see comments and everything. I'll also give you free access to my private discord. Now, my private discord is like private. That's more x-rated.

You could do anything there. It's like super fun. There's a lot of people on there. You could do whatever. And that's where you get to post stuff and everything. So I'll give you free access to that as well. I love your story. I mean, especially because of like all the beginning stuff, you know, it's like super

interesting. No offense. Like your sort of your husband's traumatic experience, you know, made this episode really good. I feel bad for your husband. But it was a really good story. So thank you so much for calling in. I really enjoy talking to you guys. No worries.

Thank you for having us. Yeah, really love listening to your show. I'm a line-haul truck driver and I stumbled across the show on Spotify last year. Yeah. And then, yeah, listen to that. And then it got me the idea to, oh, well, let's try. seeing you know, emailing.

I think that story's quite interesting. Why didn't it take you a whole year? First of all, I love my truckers. I get so many emails for truckers. So when I'm driving into my car and I pass trucks, I'm just like, oh, I wonder if they're listening to my show. Because, you know, I know I get a lot of emails from the truckers. Let me, quick question, though.

Like, how do you stumble upon my show on Spotify? Were you, like, Googling for a specific topic, or was it shown to you? I'm just curious. Do you remember? I think I was Googling, like, wanting to listen to more sort of Stag Vixen-type stories. Oh, perfect.

That's how it'll come across you. Yeah, that's good to know. I like that. I pop up when people are Googling for that. Well, listen, I'm so glad you finally pulled the trigger and called in because you guys had a very interesting story, both separately and together. Send me those pictures sooner than later. And then I will send you the links to my Discord.

You could go in there. It's like kind of fun. We're doing a whole booty picture. We do a contest over there. It's like a lot of shit going down. It's like a fun place. So I'll give you guys free hours. access for that. And when you join, join as Mike and Renee, and I'll give you guest role access so you

post in the guest channel when your episode airs as well. Okay. So send me everything sooner than later and I'll send you those free links, okay? Awesome. Thank you. Thanks, you guys. This was fun. Okay. Bye you. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl

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