Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1227 - Kim’s BF is a Crossdresser who’s Into Guys  and She's Totally Down with it All

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

Kim’s boyfriend is a crossdresser who’s into guys and she’s down for all of it. Tune in to hear all the details including how they met and when they started hooking up, when he copped to being into guys as well as pantyhose and crossdressing , how she felt about all of it, how they went from being friends to  being lovers, how his first wife reacted negatively to his dressing and how that effected him, the free pass he has to go hook up with guys and go to bathhouses, the rules they have surrounding the pass, how and why he won’t fully dress up in front of her but will sometimes wear lingerie in the bedroom,  how and when she takes on the dom role in the bedroom and how she feels about it, how they’re now talking about bringing a guy into their bedroom and why she’s not down for it just yet, his fave pantyhose brands t wear and the style of dress he prefers, how she started helping him with his make up and what she enjoys doing when he’s in his feminine self plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous a pics of my other guests plus hear KIM"S BF episode + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER and or HOSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier it's only $8 a month for Hosers and $10 a month for crossdressers (you get also get Hoser episodes too!) and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠ MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I change all the voices over there as well. They all get aired on my Patreon and some of them wind up on a confessions episode. Now, listen, since this is a fetish Friday episode. episode. What's great about my patron is I also have two separate tiers. Each tier, whether it's the hoser tour or the cross-dusters tier, it gets one extra episode a month, an exclusive episode. So the hoser tier gets one extra exclusive hoser episode and the cross-dressing tier gets one extra cross-tressing episode and the one extra hoser episode. So hoser tier is $8 a month, cross-dester $10 a month. It's very specific. What's great about that is that you don't just get the episode for the month that

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into cross-a-thing, but a guy who's also into guys. He's very bisexual. He goes to bathhouses, both as Tara and as a guy, he's into guys, and she's accepting of it all. She talks about how they were friends at first and how they met, and then when it switched, and then they started dating and how and why she's so accepting of everything and how much she does in front of her and what he does, you know, not in front of her. He's also a hosey. He's totally into pantyhose. He's a crushessor who's also into pantyhose. And like I said, he's also into guys.

So he does have a free pass from her to go to bathhouses. And he does go to bathhouses a lot. She talks all about their arrangement, how this all came up when she found out about everything, how she felt about it, how things changed when they started dating. And, you know, how the free pass came up for him to be with guys. And then what he does, what they do together, how she helps him with his makeup, how he dresses, how she feels about all of it, how he feels about all of it, whether a threesome is in their future. She talks a lot about that because that's something that they have discussed.

She does talk about her rules and boundaries as far as when, you know, him going to the boss houses and his free pass with guys. It's a super interesting episode. She's really great. She's very open-minded and cool about it all. So I think it's important to show that there are women out there like this. So I'm going to get right to and be right back on with Kim. Hi, Kim. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. Happy to be here. Yeah, I'm happy you're here because you are dating married dating, right? Dating a cross-dresser? What I say? I am. Yeah, dating. How long? Three and a half years. Three and a half years. You're dating someone named Tara, T-E-R-A. Tara was,

did an exclusive episode on my cross-dresser, on my Patreon. So what people don't know if you're new to my shows, I do have like a Patreon and a Patreon. And, you know, I do have like a Patreon and a I have two tears, fetish tears, hosers and crossdresses. Hosers are guys who like pantyhose, your crossdresser, Tara, happens to be a hoser, too. And sometimes they are together. A lot of crossdresses are also hosers, but not all crestresses are hosers. But I have those tears over there, and I do an exclusive episode every month, and we did Tara's whole story over there.

So if people want to hear that story, you could sign up for my Patreon. You get tons of extra exclusive contents. No one else has ever heard before. but I wanted you on because I think it's always super interesting to have on a partner who's like very accepting of the fetish, you know, because a lot of people who call into my show and who are probably listening are either not in a relationship and are afraid to be in one because they're afraid to put on the table or they're living a secret life and they never told their partner. That's a very common one, you know. Yeah, yeah. So you, okay, so let's go all the way back to like when you met Tara. Like you've been dating for three years or are you guys young and this is like you've never.

been married or is this like a you're both divorced and you're together like tell me the story like before you met Tara Tara is twice divorced okay well once divorced once widowed I am not married I'm in my late 40s he's in his early 50s and we've been best friends for eight years oh okay so you were friends before we were friends for five years before we started dating well first of all that's a great foundation for a relationship if you ask me when harry met sally was always like my favorite smiths movie because i'm like oh you know two besties right you know each other and you're great friends because literally if you add sex to the top of that and you're down and your best friends like what better relationship do you have because you do really want to like the other person as a friend

so you guys were a killer friends before let me ask you this did you know about terra's cross-dressing before yes okay so as friends were you work friends were you bar friends like how did you You meet even as friends. It was a dating website. We met. What do you mean dating? Oh, as friends? Yeah, we met on a dating website, decided not to date at the time for reasons.

It has nothing to do with the cross-dressing. But we met on a dating. I'm sorry, I'm just too curious. That one I can't really go into at this moment without his input on what he wants to have shared. But you just weren't into each other with someone married and he was cheating? No. Oh, absolutely nothing like that. It was a family issue.

Oh, okay, okay. So it didn't work out timing. It was wrong timing then more so. I think that would be a proper way to say it without giving information. The timing was off. So we decided, you know what, this is kind of fun. We have a lot in common. He makes me laugh like nothing else.

That's key for a girl, right? We like guys that make us laugh. It's the biggest turn on in the world. For every girl. I think it's a girl thing. Listen up, guys. You want to get a chick, make her fucking laugh. I can't stand guys that have no sense of humor.

100%. Yeah. Yeah. How many, funniest I've ever met in my life. Yeah, that's important. Could I just ask you a quick question, though? I know that you didn't start dating at that time.

But you did go on dates and you met on a dating app. Like, was there any kind of fooling around going down in the first couple? Like, you know, in the beginning when you first met before you decided to none. None. Okay. So you had even got into first base. Mm-mm.

Okay, so it was easy to kind of stop it there but remain friends. Yeah, and the way that I was raised, I think he saw right away that I'm very accepting. I don't, I'm not going to judge you based on article of clothing at all. And so Tara decided, hey, we're out. We're driving around. And he decided to tell me everything. How soon into your friendship now? Because now you're just friends, right?

It wasn't when you were dating, right? not dating no this was maybe four or five months into our friendship okay so he's like getting to know you he's starting to feel comfortable obviously he winds up realizing you're not very non-judgmental and open-minded so you're driving around and he what does he say to you he's like so we we went someplace and he's like this is where I go to hang out with other men because he's also into other men okay right too And it was a local sauna, like just, it's all for men. It's a saw, it's called a sauna, but. The bathhouse.

Yeah, the bathhouse. So he told me about that. And I was like, oh, okay. And then we went for several months, just me randomly asking questions at my own pace. Because you're curious, right? Oh, very curious. I just don't understand that mentality at all. But the mentality of like guys going to a bathhouse and all fucking each other, that mentality?

Right. And like the whole we're not even going to talk, it just kind of goes down and then you leave. Yeah, that's why gay men have like the best sex because they understand each other's mentality. Women don't. So I don't, that's not, I don't understand that one at all. Most women don't understand that, but guys understand that mentality. It's a guy thing. So it was a few months later that he started telling me or showed me that his ankle and he had like the,

he had stockings on and i was like okay i don't give a crap i don't i don't care whatever makes you happy i don't give a shit so and it just kind of he was like oh i think inside he kind of oh i can tell this person more stuff and he just it came out over time and it was probably a year and a half before i knew everything but we were still only just friends still not fooling around right do you think it would have been different if he was your boyfriend at that time yes and what and in what way like how do you feel like it would have been different do you feel like you would have more questions or would have been more cautious or I would have had more questions and it would have almost felt like a gut punch like without without getting to know him the way that

he is the way that he lives the way he is with his parents the way he is with friends and I think that just having being, if we had been dating that whole time and he'd come out and told me, hey, I'm also a cross-dresser and I like to wear stockings and I like to wear dresses and skirts and bras and wigs and makeup. And I think that one would have hit me a little bit differently if we had been dating. Yeah, I think unfortunately when you're dating, people tend to read. reveal less. There's a little bit more pressure. You know, everyone's a little bit more afraid of someone being judgmental about them. So I think people hold back. So you do know less of them. So if you knew

less of him and just knew that stuff, it would be like what the fuck, right? But because you're friends, he's just showing you his everything, right? So you know he's this whole person and these are just other parts of that person. It's not his whole thing, which would have been the same if you were dating him, you know, but I think like I said, sometimes when you're dating someone, they reveal less and they're less likely to just like sort of put it all out on the table, even about the regular stuff. Right. The next time you want to get down and dirty, why not take your time?

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you know but I think like I said sometimes when you're dating someone they reveal less and they're less likely to just like sort of put it all out on the table even about the regular stuff like right and I liked that I knew everything about him before we started dating and it just kind of happened and it was

that everything just kind of fell into place. How did it change from friendship to? Like what was that moment? The whole time, let me ask you this, though. So you're finding out all this stuff. Like, you know, he's into guys. Like, were you ever a woman that was into that? Did you ever watch that kind of porn?

Did you not, were you not into that at all? Had you ever been with a guy that had been into guys before? Like, what was your take on that? I have never. been in any kind of situation like this. I've never dated a bisexual man. I've never dated a woman. I'm not bisexual. So, but I have close people to me who are gay, who are bisexual. And it just, I don't care. Right. I just don't care. Right. But you weren't turned on by it, though, but you weren't turned off by it. I know. Listen, because once you start to, like, I get not caring as a friend. But now

if you're going to be dating him and maybe it's going to be a part of your intimate life. You know, I wonder, do you start to think, like, would I want to see him with another guy? You know what I mean? Like you got to sort of go there. Now I do. Right, exactly. So that'll come up in the story. So, okay, so your friends and everything, with this whole time that your friends and he's

telling you all this stuff, are you like falling for him and liking him secretly? Or are you just seeing him as a friend and you're trying to date other people at this time? I was dating other people. and clearly they didn't work out. They were a couple of them did not care for the friendship, the depth of friendship that I had with Tara at all. Oh, interesting. That took first priority for you?

Yeah, they didn't. Other guys don't like when you're friends with guys. Well, look, they were right. You did like that other guy. You wound up with him. You know, listen, if you're like, if you're literally like really wanting to date people and you were serious about dating other people,

they wouldn't even know about Tara. So the fact that they knew that he existed and didn't like him is probably means you probably did have like, you were probably crossing the boundaries of friendship with him for some reason. Probably. These guys wouldn't have given a shit. Like what were you always talking about him? How did they even know about your guy friend? You know what I mean? Oh, because I'm always with him.

Yeah, exactly. Well, that's weird. No guy wants a girl that's got, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no guy, like, unless he's a gay guy, if he's your best friend, it's like, just fuck already and date. Which he did. You know what I mean? Those guys were right to be like, you know what? She's not fucking available.

She belongs to Tara, right? That's right. Yeah, they were right. You know, that's what was really what was consuming you if you look back. Okay, so you're dating other people. Now, so what's that move? Like, what happens at one time that it switches? Is it a conversation?

Is it a kiss? Like, what happened? You have to go back and tell me. I noticed, I was really, really sick for a little bit. And I noticed that he gave me a hug and it just, all of a sudden it felt it just was different. And I was like, oh, something just happened. I don't know what it was.

It was different. And then a couple months later, like nothing had happened or maybe months later, hanging out of my house on the 4th of July and kissing happened and then the bedroom happened. Oh, my God. Who went in for the kiss, though? Oh, God. Was it drinking?

It just happened. I don't think there was any drinking. I think it just happened. I think we were sitting on the couch, watching. and some TV and it just kind of happened. I don't know how else to say that. I don't know how else to describe it. No, I can understand that.

It must have been building up for both of you, though. For both of you to sort of, like, it wasn't one person that was feeling it and made the move. He was obviously feeling something at that hug time too or something because, you know, that moment on that couch, it was the both of you went for it. Right. Right. Yeah.

So it was building to this. Absolutely. And how, so was the chemistry and the sacks like that off the charts? Yeah, it was really good. Yeah. Was he wearing panty hose that time? I think he was. Okay.

I think so. Yeah. It just, it, I had seen his legs all the time because he wore shorts with the stockings. And it just, it never bothered me because it's just clothing. So it's just, it's just been there. kind of always been part of our relationship. So I've just accepted. Did he tell you about his other partners' stories and how they reacted?

Because didn't one of his wives find out or did he tell them, like, what was his past history? I don't know much about the first wife, but his second wife did not react well and actually laughed at him when he dressed. Right. And I have, he has only done part dressing in front of me, not the whole thing. So, but I've seen photos. He has shared photos with me. And I love it.

I think it's great. He looks wonderful. Yeah, but why doesn't he fully dress in front of you after all this time? I don't know. That one I'm not entirely sure of. That's interesting. Why didn't I ask him that? Did I ask him that on his conversation?

I think so. But I think it's almost a PTSD from his. is that she laughs so terribly at him. And it just was soul crushing. Yeah, I feel like I remember that conversation. That's what it might be. But it might be deeper than that. I mean, he might have his own little bit of feelings about it that he's not totally comfortable.

You know, listen, this is a guy that had to keep it on the deal his whole life, right? He was probably cross-dressing and wearing a hose since he was a little kid, right? It was always a secret. The first time he does tell somebody it's just a story. fucking wife and she laughs at it, which is like you said, traumatizing, right? It's like the yeah, it's like every guy's biggest fear and it happened to him. So, and so, and the, the fact that he probably didn't tell anyone before that means he has some like shame about it, which a lot of people with this fetish do have, you know, it's not like the norm. And then when you have somebody

confirm maybe what a little part of you feels already when his wife laughed, it would just maybe you make that part of you, like, not go away. So he probably still has a part of himself that isn't accepting of it. Right. You know, like at a certain point, he has to let go of that because he's obviously sitting across from somebody who's completely fine and ready to accept him fully dressed. Yeah. And I think that he also likes having a little bit of separation in our relationship where he can

go and this is what he does when he is near men at the. Bathhouse. Oh. This is how he is there. And when he's with me, he wants to be the more manly. Oh, that's more of an interesting, that makes more sense than what I just fucking went off on. That makes more sense.

He and, okay, so when Tara's dressed, Tara doesn't like to be with women. Tara likes to be with guys. For the most part, yes. Yeah. I've seen some lingerie and I love it and we've had fun with it. but I have not seen full Tara wig, full makeup, stockings, the whole outfit I have not seen. And maybe he doesn't want to bring it there with you because that doesn't make him feel hot like Tara wants me with dudes. Right.

That's what Tara wants. Terra doesn't want to be with you. Right. Right. So when he is in some lingerie, I like to assume a more dominant role. And how is that for you? were you at typically because the most women tend to like to be submissive and they have a little bit harder time being dominant in the bedroom yes i'm much more submissive however when i want to be i can

be the bitch yeah and i can be very dominant i can i have that in me that personality trait in me so that's it's not a problem and it's not like i'm doing it for days it's just for a couple hours yeah well let's go back still to the beginning because I want to talk about like when he starts, you know, when you guys start having conversations, like, and let's go, let's get, let's get to that part. So you cross the line. Now you're going to be together. He's obviously smart to hang his hat with you. I mean, like this is a guy who struck gold, right? Every guy who has, you know, fetishes wants to meet a partner who's completely down and non-judgmental. And, you know, he had a lot of stuff going on that could have been a deal breaker for some women in the beginning, right? And none of it was a deal breaker for you.

So that's pretty major. So he would have been a, dumb, dumb not to lay one on you and try to date you when the timing was right. Like, if he let you go, go, it would have been so fucking dumb. So you guys are dating now. And so does it now, now that you kind of cross the line and you're going to have feelings for this guy and you know all this information that he likes to fuck guys and go to the bathhouse and everything, like, do you start having questions and conversations about like what your boundaries and rules and regulations and how this relationship is going to work since it's changed? Yes. my biggest boundary is like he used to meet men and go to their houses.

Okay. That is a no-no now. Okay. That is a big, I don't know if it's my girl and me that's like, no, we don't go to strangers' houses. That's dangerous. Right. Because he's a girl. He's going as a girl.

He's not going as a guy. Right. Yeah. So I know that at the sauna, you're safe. The sauna is a bath house. there's there's other people around that can hear you scream like that's my my inner girl says that that you need to be safe yeah do you watch date line like i do i mean that's how i feel so i don't know i don't like so that's off the table if he wants to go have fun with other men i'm open i don't care

that's major talk about that conversation so like in the beginning i'm more interested in like everything becomes on the table off the out of the gate right because you're you you know that this is what he's into. You're not going to say, oh, now that we're dating, by the way, you can't fuck other guys. But some people might, you know, but you didn't even go there. Like, you knew who this guy was. You know that he likes to go to bathhouses. And you told him straight up, hey, listen, like, you have a free pass to go and do what you want to do. But these are my rules and boundaries that I need to feel okay with it. Yes. That's exactly what that was. I'm not going to make him change to be with me.

One of the things I like about him is that he is this person and he has this other side of him, this more feminine side that he likes to show. Great. I love it. It's so much fun when I want to sit and watch a romantic comedy. Great. You mean terror comes out and you watch for terror? I like it.

I talk to another. I talked to a couple. You should listen to them. I just aired their episode. I think it was them that we're talking. And she, her guy cross-dresses and she's seen him with guys. And I said to her, like, and now that, like, she goes outdressed and she gets compliments from guys and everything like this, has she changed the way she treats you as a man because

she knows what it's like to feel like a woman and how she likes to be treated by a man, you know what I mean? And she said, absolutely, you know, so I think sometimes these cross-dressing men sort of have a gauge of like what a woman likes and wants because they experience being a woman for a certain amount of time with a man. You know what I mean? Like Tara probably likes when Tara's Tara probably likes to be treated very differently, you know, from men. So I wonder, does Tara know how to treat you as a woman? Because Tara sometimes is a woman, right? Yeah, I absolutely love tapping into both sides. Yeah, it's interesting. It probably makes Tara as a man

much more understanding. That's what I'm thinking, you know, because he's got a full view of not only hit, you know, a guy's perspective, but your perspective. Yes. Yeah. So you're like not looking to change. He's got a free past. Now, so one of your boundaries is like, I just don't want you to go over to the guy's houses, but bath houses are totally fine. Yes.

Okay. Anything else? No. If you want to, you want to push some boundaries and you want to wear stockings in public, great. Go for it. I don't care. You want to fully dress? I don't have a problem with that, but he hasn't dressed full.

in front of me yet. Did he tell you why, like, were you like, why not? Like, were you confused at first? Like, why won't you? Because sometimes I think this with women. Like, we like to believe that we're getting everything from a guy, right? Like, we feel more intimate and closer to a guy if he reveals everything. You know, were you kind of like,

why won't you? Just in front of me? Like, I'm totally accepting. I would love it. Like, show me who you are. At first, my feelings were almost hurt. Yeah, that's what I mean. I could see that. I understand that. He wasn't sharing that part of him with. Exactly. me. And then I realized it wasn't me. Yes. It's not, it's not me because he wouldn't be showing me

photos of Tara. He wouldn't be telling me, you know, he goes to the bathhouse and he'll come home and I'm like, I want to know some stuff. And he's like, well, what do you want to know? And I will ask specific questions, maybe how many men did you sleep with today? Yeah. Or how many, you know, men did you play with? And I might not want to know details, but he'll only, he'll tell me what I, what I ask. He wouldn't be showing me photos of Tara. He wouldn't be telling me, you know, he goes to the bathhouse and he'll come home and I'm like, I want to know some stuff.

And he's like, well, what do you want to know? And I will ask specific questions, maybe how many men did you sleep with today? Yeah. Or how many, you know, men did you play with? Yeah. And I might not want to know details, but he'll only, he'll tell me what I, what I ask. It's very, you have to have such good communication with your other person for something like this. No, I love that you're, you know, you go there and ask the questions that you want to know.

I love that. He's honest with you about it. And when you, like, you know, there was like a Facebook post in a lifestyle group I was looking at this morning. And this woman was talking about her husband share, like they both share picks with other people. And they found out her husband was like, like, you know, she found out her husband was like, looking at another guy's wife and it's like, you know, and she was like, oh, is he jerking off? And she was mad at him and yeah, you know, and it's like, no one's going to be honest if when they're honest with you, you get upset about it. You know what I mean? Because like, obviously there's a

problem, you know, he knows that he could be honest with you about everything because you're not going to give him shit about it. Sometimes like people will say, yeah, be honest. But then when the person's honest, they like, they flip out. Well, then maybe you shouldn't be doing shit. But like when you, so, and let me ask you this, when you're asking, you, you're asking, the questions. Are you asking out of curiosity and just wanting to know? Are you asking because it turns you on? Or is it just like, like I said, a curiosity thing? It's curiosity because I don't understand that mentality. Right. But it's also kind of a turn on. And I maybe one day we'll see, let's let's add a third person like for playtime. Yeah. Not not as I'm doing a thruffle thing,

but we could maybe maybe one day but I'm not nearly ready for that but I like the idea of picturing him with somebody now is he would he be ready for that like it would because that would mean he would be Tara in front of you right he maybe okay let me ask you this would okay because I've talked a lot of cross-dresses and they all roll very different tell me specifically for Tara does Tara only like guys when he's Tara or does Tara? Like guys, even when, oh, okay, so that's important. Yeah, no. Not.

Now when he goes to the bath house, it says Tara, because he's more masculine with me. He does. He gets a lot of attention because everybody compliments how beautiful he looks. But I think that he needs to have that feminine side away from me because he's so masculine with me. Yeah, that's his release. He's my, he's my protector. He's my everything. He's my everything.

And there's probably a part of him that like if you kind of see him that way, like there might be a little bit of a fear inside of him that if you see terror, it would take away from his masculinity of how you see him, right? You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes like that's a little bit of a fear that, you know, you couldn't keep them separate even though they're totally separate and you obviously can. You know, but if like he's so masculine with you, he might be afraid to show, you, him being feminine.

Right. But I did help him learn how to do makeup. Yeah, let's talk about that. It's super interesting. It was, and I think that was even before we were dating. Oh, you're kidding. That's fun. You asked me, he asked me, you know, what,

he asked me about somebody's makeup when we were out. And I was like, okay, well, let's go to Target. Come on. Let's go. Let's go pick out some stuff. Let's go look at colors and foundations and wash. and and then we came back to home and we played with it. I showed him how to use it all.

And you put it on him? It was great good fun. I put it on myself so that he could mimic what I was doing to teach him to do it. And it was great good fun. Yeah, I can imagine. Let me ask you a quick question because, you know, I know girls talk and if I had a guy friend that was into all that stuff, I'd probably tell my girlfriends. Like, unless the guy told me specifically, don't tell anyone.

So I'm like wondering, like, do people in your circle because you were friends with it. for so long, right? And you knew all this stuff about him. Did they know this stuff about him, too? And now they know that you're dating a cross-dresser who's into guys and goes to bathhouses. Or did you always keep all of that stuff on the DL and nobody has any idea? I kept it on the DL. Okay. Nobody needs to know. Right. Mm-hmm. My mom knows. Well, that's not keeping it on the DL. Yeah, no, but not my girlfriends don't know. Yeah. Uh-huh. But my mom does know. Yeah, interesting. How did it come up with your mom?

Gosh, it just kind of happened. Like, were you just telling her, because when he was your friend? Yeah, when he was my friend. I was like, me, I would figure you might say something to somebody, not in a bad way. He crosses, like stockings, blah, blah, blah. And my mom was like, okay. Whatever floats your boat. Great, that's how I was raised.

Her sister is gay. It doesn't matter. Yeah, exactly. And I was 16 when I went to Thanksgiving and I came home and I was like, hey, mom is aunt, is anti-gay? And she's like, yeah, that was the only one in the family that didn't know. I was 16 before I realized it. Wow. But listen, your mom was very progressive because, like, nowadays, like, I'm like that kind of mom, right?

But I'm, like, born in a different generation. My mom was definitely not that way, but your mom was and you're, like, closer to my age. So, like, your mom was very, like, ahead of her times because people, like, your mom's age, most of them weren't that open-minded and accepted at all. She'll be 73 in two weeks. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, all the way back then, it's not like she grew with the times. Like when you were growing up, she was open-minded in a world that wasn't open-minded.

Yes. Yeah. So you're lucky, you know, that she brought that into your life. And Tara is, too, because she made the perfect partner for her. Yep. Because a lot of times we pick up these kinds of things from our parents, you know, how you were raised. you know. My mom's incredible.

Yeah, yeah, you're lucky. So that's why you were very honest with her and she was like, whatever. So she knows. And then she knew when you were dating him. Yeah. Mm-hmm. She don't care. Yeah.

Cool. No issue. So, okay. Does Tara treat me well? That's all that matters. And Tara does treat you well, I'm assuming. Absolutely. Right.

So the bath houses or the thing, let me quick question. Well, let's stick with the makeup thing because that's what we're talking about. So like you started telling her about like makeup and then did she like practice it and show it to you and like whatever. Like does she do it really well now? Have you seen her face all done up in makeup? She does do it well. I'm very proud. Yes, I see photos not really at home.

But she'll come home from the bathhouse. I'm like, hey, you got a little black mascara underneath your eyes. Go clean her out. Oh my gosh. hilarious. Or you've got glitter. I see the glitter. But he does go to the bathhouse, though, not as Tara sometimes? I believe so. Yeah? Yeah. I don't have a problem. Yeah, no, I get it. No, I was just saying that because you did talk about there being maybe a time in the future where a man does come into the bedroom now. Is that something that you guys have been discussing? We touch on it. Every once in a while,

we'll touch on that, but there's never any pressure, and it might not ever happen. I might not ever get to that, but it could be fun at the same time. So that one's, that's on me. That one is my call. Yeah. Listen, I mean, why would there be pressure? I mean, he does have a free pass to go and live out that part of himself, right? He does like guys. You know, you can't give him what those guys are given him. He's getting it somewhere else. So why? would he be stupid to press you sometimes though you hear of really stupid people you know someone's in a lifestyle situation their wife lets them fuck other people and then they're cheating on them behind the back you're like why would you do that to someone who's so fucking cool you know what I mean so

sometimes people are that dumb you know but obviously he there's no reason for him to pressure you because he gets to do whatever he wants uh you know listen he might really want to share it with you because that might be like more intimate for him, you know, to have you there, his partner. But that has to be on your time. And like you said, you know, you may never be ready. And that's like your call. Yeah. And know thyself is like my favorite saying. And I, you know, I think it's really important to like know where you're at and how you feel is about something instead of like, you know, a lot of times people are like people pleasers or whatever and they'll do stuff like before they're ready or just because they want to do the right thing or do what the other person wants. And a lot of times that's why things end in disaster.

Yeah, that'll destroy a relationship. Yeah, exactly. And sometimes a person's coming from the right intention. Like, they want to do the right thing. But maybe they're not ready. And you just really have to follow your own feelings. What do you think are your reservations? Two men is a lot to handle.

Well, let me ask you this. Do you have to fuck the guy? Like, maybe you don't, you could just, like, not be, like, can it be like, can it be like Tara's the center of attention? I don't know. I don't even know how that would play out if Tara would be there at all. What do you mean? Wait, wait, wait, wait, I'm confused.

Oh, it might be your guy. It might be. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah, but even in that situation, it could still be them together and you just with your guy. I mean, listen, you could concoct up whatever you want in that situation, you know. Right.

And I've heard every kind of concoction in those situations. I bet you have. Yes. So, you know, you could go into your first time completely. like I'm not you know because listen you're a woman I understand it like it's not easy for us to just go out like we're not we don't look at a guy's body and be like oh it's so hot I want to fuck him you know what I mean like you have to have a connection all the things have to align for you to be horny for somebody it's not easy to just right so I I would assume you're like how am I going to find a guy that

I'm turned on by like I'm turned on by you you don't want anybody else or need anybody else probably but you know maybe you don't need to do anything with that person but you could do stuff with your guy and then watch them together too. Right. Yes. But am I right? I don't know that I'm ready for it. And what do you think your reservations are about that? Like, because you wouldn't be able to unsee it. You're afraid of how you would feel about it if you saw it. Like, what do you think is the reason? And there's no wrong reason. You know, I'm just wondering if you know why you're, you don't want to see it yet. I don't know why. I don't think I've ever given it out of thought. It's just that I don't know. I don't know.

I for me sex is an intimate connection. How do I not have an intimate connection with a second person? Yeah, I get it. It's a very big jump from like being, you know, if you're truly a monogamous person. I mean, you do let your guy go do everything else, right? And do the stuff that it has. But changing the dynamic between you and him and bringing third person and does really, it is a very big different kind of a thing. Even though you're not traditional now, you're very non-traditional now. in that you allow your guy to do all the things that he does, you know, it still would be a big jump because it changes like what he's doing on the side has to do with him, right? It's not about you and him. But if you brought the guy in, it would change, like you say, your intimate life with him. Now, it would just be about sex and it would. And typically people, when they do share moments like that, they feel closer together. Like I rarely hear that it drives them apart. But I could totally see why you feel that way. And if you're wired for monogamy and you don't, and you're wired for like two person

sex and it's, it's, I think it's smart not to go there. And like you said, maybe you never will. Like, maybe it wouldn't be a turn on to you. Maybe it would be a turn off and it would make you feel weird, you know? I watched videos. Like I, I enjoy pornography. I enjoy it. Yeah. And I'll watch videos where it's two guys and a girl to see, okay, what kind of roles does that is everybody playing? and how do you even play with two extra-per with two people? And I don't know. I don't know if I'm just not ready for it. I had two couples on one.

I think it's Samantha. I actually put them in my book. Samantha, I forget what her husband's name was. But both came on separately. And her guy started to get into wearing panties. And he was a very big alpha dude. I have pictures of him on my website on my Patreon.

You know, he looked like any jack guy at the gym. But he got into like this panties. Annie's thing and then he started hooking up with guys and she would be like in the other room. I don't know. They had like an interesting setup where she wasn't like totally evolved. You should like listen to their story and stuff. I mean like like I said, you could dip your toes into that scenario any way you want. Maybe you look for a different kind of porn where it's specifically like maybe the girl watching two guys or not so much involved. You know, because maybe it's too much for you to imagine yourself as a part of the three. But maybe you don't need to be hooking up with that guy. And maybe you would over time if you got to know the guy and felt comfortable.

comfortable, but maybe if you, if you ever did do it the first time, you could just be in the room watching or somehow making it hot for you. Right. You never know. You never know. Yeah. Do you, but so you do get the details. He comes home.

So how often does he dress? How often does he go to the bathhouse? Right now he goes to the bath house one to two times a week. Okay. And a couple weeks ago, I was like, I just don't want you to go today. I didn't know why. I was just like, I don't want you to go. He's like, okay.

Yeah. I won't go. Yeah. But I, he goes one to two times a week and I believe that he dresses every time he's going right now as far as I know. Now, do you, like, what kind of, like, what kind of, you do say that he wears undergormant sometimes with you? Like, I'm wondering about like the style of dress that terror wears and clothes. Yeah. When we've been intimate and he was, he dressed in a baby doll and I loved it, baby doll

in stockings and heels. And it was wonderful. We had a blast. It was, it might have been a New Year's Eve. We had a great time and he did what I said. You were the dumb. I was. Yeah.

So sometimes they'll do the undergarments with you. What when, what in the pictures that you've seen of Tara dressed, you know, like explain Tara's vibe. Like what kind of style of dress does Tara get into? Tara is very that cutesy Asian, like the, the pigtails, the pink hair, yeah, the little plaid skirts, like a, an open or a see-through blouse top kind of a thing. That's the vibe. Mary Jane's, that kind of thing. A little stockings with a ruffel on them maybe, or a sock. Very girly.

Very girly. Right. And do you, like, do you ever go shopping with Tara to buy clothes together? Does Tara typically get stuff just online? I have bought a lot of stockings for Tara. Mm-hmm. Do you know what her favorites are? Yes, I do.

What are they? Those just love conversations like women talking about panties. Like the brands, the denier, the color? Amazon Dankmali. And they are thigh highs. And he loves the texture, the denier. They last a long time. And they're a decent price.

I have bought a lot of them. And what colors is he like? Oh, all different colors. Every color. There's a couple that I don't like. I don't like yellow and I don't like the orange ones. But I like all the other ones. Now, when Tara goes out with you dressed with the hose and the shorts on, do you ever notice people looking? Do you take notice of it? Do you look to see if people are looking or do you not even look anymore? Or do you in the beginning?

I didn't, I don't notice because he's not wearing like pink stockings with black shorts. It's usually coffee colored so it looks like he's just really tan or black. Yeah. So they almost look like. Leggings. Like he's run like he's a runner. Yeah, exactly. how it looks. So I don't think anybody, I saw one teenage boy kind of look once. It was like, he looked too cute. Maybe he was like, maybe he was another, maybe he was a former, maybe he's a fellow hoser. You know, seriously. That's true. But he just kind of looked and he was like, what is going on here? And then just like kept going about his day. So it was momentarily, it wasn't anything. Nobody stares. Does Tara shave? not that I've seen not in a long time okay I think that she has uh-huh but it's been a while and is Tara a top or a bottom what guys do you know

a bottom a bottom and does he have a lot of like sex when he goes to the bath out like when you've asked him like how many guys did you fuck tonight is it sometimes like eight it's usually around four it's crazy I have some I have this guy Mike who is called in and sometimes the bathhouse stories are like out of control like It really is interesting to hear from a woman's perspective of like how guys really roll when they're just like they could do whatever they want. And men are like their target because they're on the same page. I want to get dressed. I want to get dressed as a man so badly and just go and just observe because I don't understand it. Yeah. It's a whole thing. It's a thing.

Yeah. And when he first told me about this, I didn't even realize that like this existed. until he came into my life. And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. You're telling me that you guys don't even talk. You just kind of. That's their dream. Give a nod and go about it.

You think they want women to talk? They wouldn't want us to talk either. We just want to fucking talk. That's the only reason why they talk to us. And I don't want to talk. I don't want to talk. No. And it makes Tara laugh because after, you know, after sex,

I'm just like, go, way, I just want to go to sleep. Like, I'm that person. Yeah. No, I don't want to go watch TV. Please just shish. Yeah, no, I've had gay friends and I'm always like, oh my God, the things that happen in your life, like if they happened in the hetero world, like, it would be like straight up the police would have to be called because the way they could just like fuck each other. I had a really crazy story. My friend told me, I'm like, this would be literally like the cops would be involved. He was on a bus going to a a very popular gay beach vacation place. And he sees a guy and the guy sees him and they're like giving each other eyes.

And then, I mean, this is a true story. And then the guy whips out his dick. You know, because I'll game in on this, but thing. And he's like rubbing it while he's looking at my friend. And my friend's like, oh. And then my friend takes his, again. And then the guy like walks out and gives him a look. He gets off on his stuff.

And my friend follows him. And they go back to the guy's house and they fuck. And I'm like, if that happened, there would be a cop at the next bus stop. And that guy would be taken to. jail for whipping his dick out in front of me. You know what I mean? Like that would not be, that would not end with me going home and fucking him. I just can't imagine just a look or a crotch grab and all of a sudden you're what?

What do you mean? What do you? What? I don't understand this at all. Yeah, but that's just how guys are. That's why I always tell like my regular guy friends. Like you'd be so much happier if you were just gay. You'd have so much more fun.

You know what I mean? We're always cock blocking guys and all the fun they want to have because we're wired, very different. unfortunately. But you know, do you, like, you feel like you give Tara, I'm assuming, like your guy's sex life is like super great. And like you have, Tara has something with you that he can't get there. And like, did you ever worry that like maybe Tara was only into guys? Do you clearly see that, you know, he's into women and men and what it does, one takes, doesn't take away from the other?

Yeah, no. We had that conversation early on in our friendship. Yeah. And he said, you know, if there was a scale of. One being, I'm a female and 100 being a male, he goes, I'm like at 85, I'm male. And 15% of me is female. So he only needs that little bit of time to explore that and be told that he's beautiful by other men who look and who are by and enjoy that. And how does he stay safe?

I mean, is that a big concern for you to like make sure you fucking use a condom? because like it typically in a monagas was a relationship they're not going fucking other people i would assume that that's like a big uh boundary too like you got to be protected yes because he is going out and fucking other people you need to do that and you need to get tested and i get tested it's that's all there is to it not going to make you change but you're going to do it you're going to do it safely and he was fine with the not going to the houses so he only goes to bath houses now was he online on websites on places like He likes to tease. Okay. Oh gosh. I don't even know what it's called. Fat Life?

No, it's like a locator. Grindr. It's like a grind is, you know, I think it begins with an S. Of course, he walked away. Sniffies. What was that? Sniffies. That's it.

Yeah. He loves that and he loves teasing, which is fine. Tease away. Yeah. He'll be next to me. on the couch. He's like, look at this dickpick. Oh, my God. Hilarious. I'm like, oh, my God, you guys with your dick pick, stop it.

And now when he goes to like that one day where you're like, please don't go to the bathhouse. Is it like, does he go like at night so it ruins like your taunt? Like that night, you just want to stay home and watch TV with him or something. Like, when does he go? He'll go during the day. And I'll be working and I'm like, are you going to be home for dinner? He's like, yeah. I'm like, okay, good. That's all I want. Yeah. Just be home for dinner. And how many hours does he go for?

He'll be gone for, the bath house is a bit of a, it's like a 40 minute drive for my house. Oh, wow. So he'll be gone for maybe six to eight hours. And does he come home hot and bothered for you? Do you typically have great sex on those nights or is there no difference or is he exhausted? No difference. No difference. No, he has told me that he would like to come home. and me just kind of being sprawled out on the bed ready for him.

Yeah. But I just haven't done that because he goes during the week. And by the time works down, I'm like, I really. Yeah, you're tired. Right. It's not convenient. Yeah, that's super interesting. I love your Geister.

Do you have plans to get married or anything like that? Do you care? One day. I'm not in any rush. But, yeah, one day we've talked about it. Does he have kids from his other marriages? No. Thank God.

And you don't have kids? No. Okay, so there's no complication. There's no X. That other X, it was a clean break, I'm assuming. I mean, the only reason why you always stay in touch with the X is if there's kids. Nope. Nope.

Now, he sounds like he likes to get married because he's been married two times before. So does he bring that up to you? I probably bring that up more than he does. Oh, okay, because you want to get married? I do. I'm more like, I want to at least be engaged just to know that I have the commitment. But I know I have the commitment. There's no question in my mind that he is fully committed to me.

He'd be an idiot if he wasn't. Yeah, well, listen, I mean, he's been married before. So he's obviously into being married, right? And, you know, you've been together. Do you live together yet? Yes, we do. Okay. So, but you want the ring.

Listen, I get it. I think I had a friend who was with her guy for a real long time. She never wanted to be married. It was really her guy that wanted to eventually. And she just forced herself to do it because he wanted to. And she said she really felt different in a way that she didn't expect, but in a positive way. Like she felt like it made it official in a way that made it feel more something that she didn't realize would be there, right? Because she never cared about being married.

But she liked it. So it probably is a difference. And so I get why you would want that. Because you've never had that, right? You've never been married? I've never been married. I've been engaged. Right. Okay. Okay. So you want to be at least engaged again. Yeah. I think I like the idea of at least that much of the commitment.

Yeah. Or showing that the commitment is there to the world, I guess, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like like I said, my friend once explained that. I don't remember exactly what it was. I've never been married. I never cared about getting married. But like, I always say like if I met a guy and it was like really important to him, I'd fucking get married. But I could care last. Like I don't ever need that or care. But like it was interesting. when my friend, who was very much like me and didn't ever want to get married and wasn't into it and didn't give a shit, how she said that she actually did feel differently in a positive way. And I thought that was interesting. So there must be something to it. Yeah, I'm sure there's a different level of connection. Yeah, yeah, that's what she said. Yeah, and she was surprised, but she enjoyed it and they're still married to this day and one of my favorite couple. So there you go. Now, listen, there's no reason

why he's not going to fucking bury you unless he's the biggest moron. And he's obviously not because you guys are, you know, he has something with you that he probably couldn't find with anybody else. You also have something with him that I think is hard to find. I mean, a lot of couples don't really know everything about each other. You know, there's a lot of people living secret lives and doing things and into things that their partners don't know because the biggest fear is that your partner's going to be like, oh, you're gross or like what his partner did, like laugh at him, you know. Even just guys that watch different kind of porn, guys that are into hot wiping. You know, you know, you're not.

A lot of times these guys have to, and it's women too. We all keep our real secret like, sexual parts of ourselves hidden because we're so afraid of being judged, you know. But like he doesn't have to feel that way. So you know everything, which is. I know everything. Yeah, which is pretty rare, but must make you guys like intimate on a level that a lot of people might not be. It creates a whole lot of good inside jokes. Yeah.

I'll tell you that. Which is good, right? Yeah. But, and that's what you want. Like, you want to be on the inside. You know what I mean? And that's what I think is lacking in a lot of these regular relationships where people are, like, keeping things hidden and everyone's pretending to be someone that they're not.

You know what I mean? They don't have that, that kind of connection where they can have inside jokes and they know everything about each other, you know, that. And to me, that's an intimacy that you guys have that maybe other people don't have. And I think that that's great. Yeah. I'm more intimate with him mentally and physically than I ever have been with anybody else in my life. Of course.

And I'm sure he would say the same thing, you know. So, and people would have to listen to, I'm sure I asked him all these questions. I don't remember. I tape two people a day every day. I have like over 1,200 episodes. I remember a lot of things about stuff, you know, like the bigger picture things when you were telling me about terror. I started to remember stuff. But I don't remember exactly every single thing that we talked about.

I know that I got his whole backstory. on his cross-dressing and all that and his previous marriages and then meeting you and all that good stuff is over on my Patreon. If people want to sign up for it, the link is in the description. But, you know, thank you so much for calling in. I will be putting this on my regular podcast because I think that it's super interesting for guys to hear from a girl who's accepting about things that they might be into because it's rare. I loved it.

Yeah, awesome. I liked his interview that you did with him. I thought it was great. And I'm really excited to share. this. Yeah, he's going to love it. Thank you so much, Kim. We called you Kim, right? That was your fake name. Yes. Yeah, send me a picture of you guys if you want together, but no faces. You know, can you send me anonymous pick if you want for my Patreon. I mean, this, you know, this call was more about his cross-dressing stuff. You don't have to. If you don't want to, if you're a private person, but you know, you can do that. People send in

picks, but anonymous pecks. That's cool. But thanks so much for calling in again, Kim. This was great. Thanks, Kathy. Thanks. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being

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