Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1229 - Susie and Jeff Started Sleeping with Others & Having Threesomes Right from the Get Go

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

Susie and Jeff started swinging with each other right from the get go and they called on to talk all about it.  Tune in to hear all the details including how and why they were super open about sex with each other right from the get go, how Susie was really into BBC and how Jeff was bi and how they both felt about it, when they crossed the line, the first guy they met and the rules they had going in, what exactly went down during their first mmf threesome, how they both love “cleaning up,” their trip to an adult bookstore with one of their bulls and exactly what went down, her first solo experience with a guy and what went down, her first experience at a swingers club and exactly what went down including her first experience with a woman and all the other guys she hooked up with, the well hung bi bull who they hooked up with and what went down with him, the backseat “test” Susie likes to perform in the car while Jeff watches, how their first bull helps them vet other bulls plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They made my job super easy. They have a whole story. They're, you know, on their second marriage for both of them met each other. They were friends before. And right from the gecko, they were very open about what they were into and they're into a lot of things. You know, Jeff is into guys. She's into guys being with guys. She wanted to be with another guy.

She talked about how she brought that up very early on. They were both super honest with each other, like I said, very early on. And, you know, they roleplayed the scenario out for a while and then eventually they crossed the line and starting doing stuff in real life. They meet with other guys. They have a lot of MMF threesome. They talk about their first one, as well as like all the other ones. They have a bunch of regulars that they see. They also talk about their experience at an adult bookstore as well as Susie's experience.

at a swingers club. They talk about the rules they had going in and how and why they all went out the window. They're basically living their best life and they still have things on their bucket list to do, okay? But they've done a lot and they're not even a year into it. Okay. And they talk about it all. It's a super interesting journey. They're great. So I'm going to get right to and be right back on with Susie and Jeff. Hi, Susie and Jeff. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you guys today? Good morning, Kathy. We're doing very well. Thank you. Hello, Kathy. Hi. So listen, you guys are a couple. I don't know how long you've been married or any of that stuff. We'll find out in a second. But you guys just started swinging recently, but you got a bunch of experiences behind you. We're going to talk about that. But I always like to work up to the point where you decide to do it and, you know, how you got into it. Because that's always, I think, super interesting for other people. Because I think nowadays a lot of people listen to podcasts to kind of figure things out, right? Or maybe they want to. be where you guys are at and they haven't pulled the trigger yet. How long have you guys been married as of now and been together and all that kind of stuff?

So we have been married since September of 2019. And this is the second marriage for both of us. We've actually been friends for quite some time. So there was a lot of friendship leading up to when we started dating. Oh, interesting. Did your partners get pissed that you guys wound up together? Or did they always think like, oh, why you feel? flirting with your friend, like, did they ever smell the chemistry between you guys before it happens?

Do you know what I'm saying? Well, my ex-life never, I met, I met her before, Susie before or after I got divorced. Actually, her, her, Susie's ex-husband was a mutual, we have a mutual friend, so that's how we met. When you guys were friends, did you ever, like, look at each other and think, like, oh, you know, like I might be attracted to that person or was it just like friendship until one day you saw each other differently? No, I was definitely attracted to her the first time I saw her. Oh yeah.

Yeah, but I mean absolutely was nothing was done. Of course. Not even a little bit of flirting. I mean, just nothing was done. So you have broke code because you know, you have a mutual friend and stuff and she's married so you didn't go there, but you found her attractive. Oh, yes. Yes.

firm. Okay. So you get divorced, Susie, and then Jeff's already single. How do you guys wind up together? So I reached out to him first, and it was something where I was really just curious where this could possibly go. I knew he had been attracted to me. I caught him staring at me from time to time. I mean, I don't know who he's kidding, but the staring and the watching me was very obvious. to me. So I reached out to him and very early on, like, because we had been comfortable being friends, it just flowed into what came next. And the conversations right away were just kind of things that we were into, things that we have experienced, wanted to experience. It just flowed, really. So now I'm assuming you're talking about, like, stuff about sex,

right? Like you were very open about what you were into sexually with each other and you hadn't been previously with your other partners. Were you always both very vanilla with your other partners? Yes, very vanilla with our other partners. And so for me, when I got divorced, it was just, I was ready to just put myself out there and experience everything. And what did you want, like what was on the, like what was in your mind that you had never sort of put out there that you wound up putting out to what's his name again Jeff I forget fake news to Jeff what did you tell Jeff that was like oh you were always like fantasizing about like what were those conversations like oh I know the first thing I said was I wanted a big black con I know it I know it I know it

It's kind of interesting that you had the balls to say that to like a guy that you like you're sitting across from a guy That you're falling for and you're like oh by the way I want you know I'm really craving another guy cock, like kind of thing. Well, it is interesting and it was so comfortable and it was more of like, I'm just going to put it out there and let's see how he responds. And if he's cool with it, that's great. If not, that's cool too. At least then I knew where he stood with kind of what I was thinking and what I wanted

to experience. And now let me just ask you one more question before we hear from Jeff. So Susie, like was, were you like just really into like? interracial porn? Like, you know, what was it about the big black cock that you were always fantasizing about? Like, is this something that you were always, like, secretly into? Yes. And there's something for me, black men are just so unbelievably sexy. They have this confidence. They are just amazing to look at and to talk to. And I just, it's just this huge fantasy in mine.

Okay. So Jeff, she comes to you and says that, and this is very early on when you guys start dating. Yeah, it was actually over the phone. Because I was out of town. Did you get a Woody? That to me is always the tell. You know what I mean? Like you're going to put something out there. If the other person gets like a Woody or gets a little tingly, then you know they're down. Yeah, I was very turned down by it. And I was not intimidated or taken aback at all. I was definitely into it. So quick question to you. Okay, and then we'll move on with the story. So, you know, she kind of knew she had this fantasy of being with a black guy because she found them super attractive.

Like, did you know that you had that, like, you know, hot wife kink thing going down that you wanted to see, you know, you were down for somebody that you were going to partner with to be with another guy? Yes, yes. I mean, not that specifically, but I knew that my, the partner I wanted would, I wanted to be very explorative and, definitely do a lot of different sexual things, yes. Okay, great, because you were very vanilla in your past life, too. Yes, yeah, my first marriage, yes. Yeah, and this is a very common story, you know, second, third wives, or third time around, you know, people just wind up being open and honest right from the get-go.

Sometimes it's harder to do that after you've been with the same person for so long and never put it on the table early on. With your other partners, you never copped this stuff, correct? Oh, no. No, no. Okay, so. No, well, no, I think. that back, but my first wife, I did, you know, different scenarios. And I've just, just met with a face

of disgust. So it only takes one time of that. And then, you know, well, don't bring it up again. Yeah, because that's horrifying. That's the worst. I think that's the reason why a lot of people don't put it out there because they're so afraid of, like, someone looking at them like, ew, or whatever. It makes you feel horrified. I mean, this is like, what, something that you're into. So you guys realize you're both kind of into the same thing. Okay. So now you guys tell me, the story of like what happens after those kinds of that initial conversation. So also in that initial conversation, which I think is important to talk about, he shared with me that he was bisexual.

Oh, okay. That's an interesting thing. Yes. And I'm telling you, I had no idea during our entire friendship that this was even, like, that he thought this. So when he told me, I could sense a little bit of hesitation in his voice when he said it. And I was quiet for a second. And I said, so because you were talking about me being with a black guy.

And I mentioned wanting it. And he said, well, how about if I clean him off when you're done with him? And I was quiet. I just remember that now when I was talking to you. I said, so are you telling me you're bisexual? And he said yes. And I said, that is so fucking hot. And so it just right there, we both knew that this was good, you know, that we were on the same page of kind of wanting to explore different things.

Real quick question, Jeff, like a backstory on your, you know, you realizing your buy. Like, had you been with guys in the past? Yes, yes, I have. You know, it started teenage years playing around. around and then when I got married the first time, nothing really, but I always looked at gay porn and fantasize. And then when I got divorced living on my own, I had a couple galliances and, but not a lot. Okay. But you never brought it up to any of your other partners except Susie? That's correct.

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Bluetooth free. Just use promo code strictly anon at checkout and pay five bucks for shipping. That's it, join Bluechew's mission to upgrade humanity one thrust at a time. Head to bluechew.com for details and safety info. And a big thanks to Bluatu for sponsoring the podcast. Yes, yes, I have. You know, started teenage years playing around and then when I got married the first time, nothing really, but I always looked at gay porn and fantasize. And then when I got divorced living on my own, I had a couple galliances and, but not a lot. Okay, but you never brought it up to any of your other partners except Susie? That's correct. Okay, okay, why not, right? And Susie's down. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. So, keep going. So in that initial conversation, there's a lot, there's a lot more that you guys talked about. Yes, absolutely. And so we, you know, we talked about it. And it's kind of interesting. Like, we talked about that conversation and then we didn't really mention it for a while. You know, we would both watch, you know, male, male, female porn, female, female porn. Like, we, we know we know we're into it. And we, we know we're into it. And we, we, we don't.

enjoy watching it. We play and watch all that kind of stuff. And as time went on, you know, we're continuing to date and then we get married. We would still talk about it. And this idea of how hot would it be to bring another guy in or another girl in. But it was more like talking in a fantasy while we were playing with each other. Role playing kind of thing. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So how does it move along? Because you're together now. How long are you guys together for right now? So 2019.

Yeah, right? Yeah. Okay. And how long you've been swinging for, just about a year? So we're closing in on a year. And it was last September where he just kind of pulled the trigger and said, hey, I'm going to put a profile up. And let's see what happens.

Yeah, because that's kind of a long time to role play, right? I mean, you and you both were like into this other stuff. But from 2019 to last year, you just like kind of talked about it while you were together, right? And use it like a hot fantasy role play scenario. Yes. And a lot of that has to do with I have kids that were still at home, younger kids. Yeah, that makes sense. So my life, yeah, my life was kind of all caught up in that.

And now they're a little bit older and they're doing their own things. So we have a little bit of freedom to kind of come. and go. And when he decided a year ago to do this, I said, all right, let's do it. Let's see what happens. And then we met our first friend on field. And we met him the first time on our anniversary, our wedding anniversary. Was that on purpose? No, no. We happen to be talking. And he asked us, well, how long you've been married? And I looked at her, he said, today is our anniversary. Oh, my God. So wait, now, when you made that profile, did you say, were you like a by guy looking for a guy to come in and play with the both of you? Yes.

Okay. Okay. And so how do you vet this guy? Why pick him? It just felt comfortable, felt. Was he a black guy? Yeah, there was this initial reaction or attraction, physical attraction to him. Yeah.

And he actually reached out to us first. And then, you know, we exchange pictures and then you just kind of go from there. We do have a process of how we meet people. And it's our first meeting, which was on our anniversary, was so easy, so smooth. It was almost like we just, like we had been friends for a long time. But was he the black guy that you guys were both looking for? No, not yet. I haven't found that one yet.

Okay. So, okay. So it's like, you know, a physical. attraction, you vetted him, now you meet him. Now, what is your process and your rules and stuff going into this first experience and meeting this first guy? Like, did you have discussions about that? Yes, yeah, we have discussions. We set up a, usually it's a lunch date. And then we go from there. And most of the time, it's a second one. Now, we have, I believe it's, well, we've met with about seven guys and we played with four.

So, and so there is, there is a bit of a, and it depends, if the first one goes well, then we can move on to the next stage of playing, but I think we've only done that once. But otherwise, sometimes I'll meet the gentleman myself and then we'll go on to, and then Susie and I will meet together. No, but what I was wondering is your guy's conversation, before you went into the meeting, the first guy in real life. Were there any rules or anything, you know, that you guys discussed before you met the person, like, hey, this is what we will do, this is what we won't do.

Like, did you have any of those kinds of discussions between each other? Yes, we did. And we had one of the things that is definitely on the table because I love it so much is kissing is 100% on the table. I know some people aren't into that or don't want to do that unless they're with their partner. I love it. And I love the connection that I have with that person when we're kissing. And so that was something that was definitely like, hey, I want to be able to kiss. And he was totally down with it. There, I think at one point, we talked about how no going alone. Like, I would not go by myself.

We would be a couple and experienced it together with a couple. And to be honest with you, within a month, that rule went out the window. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So that didn't last long. Another one I had too is I just wanted to see him with men and not other women. And that changed, my opinion on that changed very quickly because I now I would love to see him with another woman, pleasuring another woman, going down on her because he is so good at it, I would love to see another woman experience what I've experienced from him. So that rule is gone.

You know, so the one rule that we really established is we want to make sure any communication, we're all part of it, right? We all have access to what the other person is saying. Any side conversations, everything is brought together. So nobody's in the dark with anything. Yeah, I like that. So you're right. So even if you're playing solo, you're still in on like the conversation that's going down between the other person.

Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there is. There was a couple times where Susie was talking to somebody by herself.

And, you know, I express my frustration with that because it's like being on a, being a little kid and being on the playground and like, oh, yeah, we know you're there, but you can't play with us. we're doing our own thing. Yeah, of course. I totally get that. I mean, listen, I think that a lot of people do a solo thing and then they start to really separate. Maybe, you know, five years from now, that'll be fine. But I think when you're doing stuff like this, it is about doing it for each other and with each other. And I think when you take one person out of it, it makes it something like where it's just about that person and the other person.

But this is like about you two together. So you should be talking together, doing everything together. That's what I think. I think you start to have problems when it starts. to become very separate. Right, yes, absolutely. Yeah, so why don't we do that first experience? Oh, no, sorry, Jeff, keep going to say what you're going to say.

Oh, I just want to say, it's not a jealousy thing. It was just more of being left out because being by, you know, I want some of what she's getting. I mean, we did go out with a guy for dinner, but he, no way was he going to play with guys. And I just went along, okay, she really wants this. I'm allowed to be in the room and everything. So for my own enjoyment and for her safety, I demand that or require that.

And so we got done with dinner and I said, well, that was very nice. He was really cute. I want some of that. So unfortunately, we had to cut the hook and let him go. Yeah, yeah. I totally get it. And listen, whether it's jealousy or not, whatever it is, I think it's totally valid. that you have that fear of missing out or like,

I don't even think it's bad if it is jealousy. A lot of people I see, like, I'm a part of this Facebook group on Facebook. It's a swinger thing. And a lot of people talk about jealous. Oh, my partner's jealous. They're so insecure. You know, whatever's like,

I just think, you know, human beings have emotions. You know, you can't just, like, act like someone's not allowed to have fucking feelings. Wherever they're coming from. Sorry. You know what I mean? Like, that person's a human.

Maybe they feel jealous one day or they have a fear of missing out. Or they want to be included. And they're like, that's not cool. And you got that's like all of that is okay. I don't think there's anything wrong with it even if it was jealousy. All right. So walk me through that first experience. You meet that first guy. He's totally cool, right? And so what and he's he's a by guy right? Like you're both going to be with him. Correct? That's correct. Yes. He is by and our our first meeting was just a lunch. And we actually met him another time before, so we had two, like, lunch, dinner with him before we even played with him.

Okay. That's how, you know, we, we like to get to know each other. Jeff and I are not interested in one night's dance. We're not interested in just, like, fucking and then going. We wanted to kind of establish, start to establish a friendship and a level of trust because keeping it, keeping us to ourselves is very important. And making sure we're safe is very important. So we get tested regularly.

Whoever we're with has to be tested. So there's a process that kind of pushes off the sex a little bit, which is good. So we met two times for a lunch and dinner. And then the third time is when we played. And it was really interesting because we were so nervous. This is our first time doing this. our friend has had probably 30 years experience in the lifestyle so which has been great for us because he's kind of been our guide through this whole thing and we got into the room and my husband goes into

the restroom and I'm just sitting on the bed our friends across from me and he just looks at me and he goes take your clothes off and I was like all right and just took my clothes off and my husband husband walks out and we just started because he wanted to watch us together and then he jumped in when he was ready to get in. So it was probably three or four hours of just, it was everything. There was the male male, the three of us together, the two of us together. There were toys. There was, it was so much fun, so much fun. Yeah, you know what I've heard from people who have this kind of experience. where the guys also get to hook up or the girl, you know, there's no limits, right?

And when there's zero limits, it's not like, oh, it's a male female male threesome where the guys can't touch each other. Like in this kind of situation, it's like anyone could do anything with anyone. And that's like total freedom. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we don't understand why, I mean, especially there is in the swingers community that there's a stigma on by men, which we just don't understand.

we're all in there for pleasure. Why there have to be these restrictions and people look down? It's, it's, I mean, Susie and our friend, they went to a swingers club together when I was out of town one time. And, you know, they, you know, our friend said, don't, you know, don't mention anything about buy, you know, about Jeff and his being by. And it's just very strange. We don't understand it.

I don't understand it either. I was very surprised when I started doing my show that this was something that was still stigmatized, even within that. world because you figure in the swinger world people would be so super open and it's not like half those guys in there aren't interested in being by they're also keeping their mouth shut it's not like nobody in that world no guys in that world are by they are but they still can't bring it up because it's so stigmatized and it's stupid i had a great guy on my show and his wife was on too um david amore they run a swingers party that's like open to everything like you could be by you could be anything at their swinger

Club. And, you know, I think that, and they became super popular because, you know, a lot of people are looking for that kind of a place nowadays because it's like, isn't it about time for that shit to be over? It's a stupid. Seriously. Yeah. We heard about David on your show and I wish they weren't, they wish they were close for us. Yeah, they got to start, what is that called? They got to start franchising their business. Yeah, yeah, I've been watching out. Hopefully they'll come to where we are. Okay. Now, most people who listen to my show knows for some reason, I'm like, I'm going to always talking about guys in anal action. I don't understand why so many guys haven't gone to that part of their body and explored it. I think every guy should check it out. And that's why I love

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Like you could be by, you could be anything at their swinger club. And, you know, I think that, and they became super popular because, you know, a lot of people are looking for that kind of a place nowadays because it's like, isn't it about time for that shit to be over? It's a stupid. Seriously. Yeah. We heard about David on your show and I wish they weren't, they wish they were cold for us.

Yeah, they got to start. What is that called? They got to start franchising. business. Yeah, yeah. I didn't watch them out. Hopefully it'll come to where we are. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, so you have that first experience and like, did you have like reclaiming sex after? Did it make your sex like so much hotter? Like sometimes I hear that like it makes it hotter for weeks afterwards. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that listening to people who are in the lifestyle and their wife goes out and then she comes back and they, and she's reclaimed by her husband. I've got to be honest with you, Kathy. we don't really do that. We don't look at it as, and I think Jeff can explain it better.

Why don't you tell them, honey? Yeah, we don't think of it as a reclamation. It's more a reconnection. Yeah, I've heard people specify, like, we don't like that word. One other person, I'm like, oh, that's kind of interesting. But it is, but let me ask you this. Is it, to me, it's more, I get the terms or whatever, but to me it's more about the fact that, like, did when you guys got together solo,

did that experience that you just have? add to your sexual experience the next time? Like, did it make it even better because you were like thinking about what you had just done? Yes. Yes, it did. I loved the idea of coming home filled with, you know, a cream pie and him going down on me and cleaning me out. And it's, I did like that, yes, very much. And I forgot that that's what you're into, Jeff, right? I mean, that's something that you brought up right when she brought it up, right? Like you would want to clean her up. you are a clean-up guy, right? Yes, yeah.

We both, and Susie's cleaned me up after I've been filled up. So, yeah, we're both into that. Oh, oh, yeah. So because you're a bottom? Yes, yes. Okay, okay, good to know. And that's actually part of the story, too, is one of the reasons that we got into this fantasy of bringing a guy in for both of us is I have ED issues.

so this is so i can almost only bottom really and you know i really got into it i i'm surprised how much i really got into it and i really released everything and now i really crave it a lot we did have one friend we play with he said he'd like fun boys so i i'm not a hairy guy to begin with so i shade from the eyebrows down to my toes and I'll wear panties every once in a while and a camisole and stockings and I'm I found myself really get into it. Yeah, that's kind of interesting. So let me ask you this. Does it, because like if you have ED, you're still feeling pleasure, but you just can't get hard. Is that, is that the issue? Yeah. Yeah, I can, yeah, I can get semi-hard. Yeah. But not enough for, I definitely cannot penetrate a guy. That's for, for sure.

But when you're being penetrated, you're totally getting off. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, how could you not? Oh, it's so great. It's so great. I love it.

She's so amazed at how open I can get. And so, and. Yeah, talk about the fact that, like, literally, this is your first time, but for both of you, this first experience, and then we'll go on to the rest of your experiences. But, like, you know, this is your first time, Susie, you seeing, like, guy and guy action in front of you. you. Jeff, it's your first time like doing something like this too with a partner. You know, how was it that first time? It was, it was so unbelievably hot watching him take our friend's

cock. I, I, our friend who I, we don't like to use the term bull because he's our friend. Yeah. But he definitely kind of took control of the whole situation and told me to get under him. So I'm on the floor underneath him and my husband is like on all fours towards the end of the bed and I'm underneath watching his cock go in and out of my husband's asshole. And it was just, it was so hot. It was so hot. They were both into it. I was into it. I knew how much he wanted this. And so it just, it was probably one of the most intense. sexual experiences I've ever had. Yeah, I think, yeah, I get to see how like that first time of anything, you know, you're going to get higher from that experience than anything because it's like the first time. Yep. Yeah, for sure.

Okay, so what happens after that guy? That's your, he becomes your friend. Do you continue to see him to this day? We do very, pretty regularly, like a couple times a month. It's really, for him, it's developed into a really nice friendship. so other things are part of all of it. He was the one who took us to a bookstore, not far from where we're at, and had that first experience with him.

One of the things I love is being watched. And so we went to the bookstore and we're in this movie theater. And I think my husband said, because he was there and he was off on the side watching our friend and I in this movie theater with 19 guys watching the two of us go at it and then you know that experience was just so so crazy unbelievable being in this movie theater him doing the things he was doing to me all of these guys watching i mean he he fucked me i blew him he fingered me till i scored it all over the floor like it was just and all these guys are watching they're all watching it was so great so great. So this guy is like turning you guys on to all kinds of things. Did he also bring you to a

swinger club? Is that what you're saying too? He got you into that. Yes. He's been really a, you know, a nice guide through all this where he has shown us kind of red flags with people. This person, yeah, this looks like it'll work. No, I would cut this one loose, you know, or be careful of this. And the whole thing with the bookstore and how that evolved was, you know, Jeff and I have been to that bookstore in particular, but never in the back, right? We never saw all the dirty, nasty things going on in the back. And he, surprise, surprise, had been there many times. And he said, listen, I'll take you guys, he goes, but I want to warn you. It's nasty. All the sounds you hear, the people you see, the smells, it's all dirty, it's nasty, but you're going to love it. And so he, yeah, he took us there

that was like right around the holidays. Yep. And then we haven't been back since. We will be going back. I know it just hasn't worked out yet. But that experience was so fun being watched and guys watching me do what I did to our friend. And my husband standing there watching the whole thing as it happened was so hot. And is that what made you decide to want to go to a swingers club too?

Because there you could also be watched? Yes. And that was actually something that Jeff. recommended because he was going out of town and he felt bad that I was going to be home alone. And he said, why don't you call our friend and you guys go do something? And he, this and then it just, this just kind of came up. And we went and that's where I had my first girl, girl and girl experience. Okay.

Did you know that that was something that you wanted to try at this point? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So that was, it was, you know, it was exciting. It was awkward. I told him and I joke around with both of them like, hey, if we do this, you guys have to go in first and let me know, like, everything's okay and good down there. You know, so if they're into it, then I'm into it. And he, he was, again, very, because he's been to places like this. He kind of took control of the whole situation. Did his, you know, he's, he was. You know, he's, he was. You know, he was. You know, he was. He. He. He. He. You know, you know, he was. He was. He was. He. He. He. He. He. He went down on her first and then he looked at me and he just basically he's like get in there just do it okay because this is you're going there and you know you want to look for a woman to hook up

with at this point yes okay yes okay and how was it that first time for you it was so great i had so much fun i we switched so then she went down on me that and so this is all a first all this is first for me and there was there was part of me like i know how much my husband wants to see that so part of me was, I almost felt bad because he wasn't there to see it. I really wanted him to see it. But it also turned me on knowing that he is, he wasn't there, but knew what was happening. And so I touched base with him throughout the evening, sent text messages like, hey, I'm okay or hey, this is what's going on. So he knew everything that was happening.

Okay. So it didn't, and you hooked up with that girl. What else went down that first experience at the Swingers Club? because this is also the first time at a swingers club for you as well, right? Oh, my God. Yes. So I was new to it. He wasn't, our friends.

So, you know, you just, you take all of it in. You have this preconceived idea of what you're going to be walking into and how it's going to be. And they're the dance for. There's food. There's all these rooms upstairs. There's rooms with toys in it. It's just, you know, I've walked through and took it all in. and we really kind of eased into it.

We were upstairs, just the two of us for a while, then we come back down. And then as more people filtered upstairs, then things started going where you kind of stand back for a bit because you want to make sure that those people want you to be involved. And then they invite you in. And then it's just kind of like, it's almost like go time. You just hands are everywhere. At one point, I was given our friend a blowjob. And I guess somebody from behind asked or motioned to him.

Is it okay if we touch her? And he said yes. And then there's hands all over me. And I don't know who's touching me. I can't see who's behind me. There's, I know it's a mix of men and women. There's definitely two guys there that wanted me to do like to blow them. just couldn't bring myself.

There is that level of being worried about STIs, and so I just couldn't bring myself to do that. But I was giving two guys a handoff at the same time. Somebody slapping my ass from behind. Like, it was just, it was just this crazy free-for-all, but it was very respectful. I want to make sure I say that because it's, everybody's very aware of why we're there. Right. And nobody wants to, first of all, you don't want to get in trouble and do something where you're not invited back. But it's a very respectful community.

We all want to experience something in it. And nobody by any stretch was inappropriate at all. In fact, whoever, as someone smacked me on the ass, and I turned around and asked who it was because I wanted him to do it again. I said, well, you can smack me again. And then I think it was like this, you know, now it just. kind of opened up where there was like more hands on me and and it was in me on me at one point I needed a break and when I came back in I was talking to one guy there and I said oh yeah this is my first time here and they looked at me stunned like this is your first time like you don't

act like it but I was so into it that you just kind of go with it you know yeah it sounds like You're a professional. How jealous were you, though, about that, that, or have you, let me ask you this. So she goes, she has this amazing experience of the swinger clubs, does all these things, including being with the woman who you want to see her with. Have you guys been back together to the swingers club? We're going very soon. Okay.

We have our reservations. We're going very soon. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. All right. So tell me some other experiences that you guys have had. Well, we have our long-term friend. our mentor as it were.

Can I ask you a quick question about him? Like, does he have a wife, a kids? Does he, is he a single guy that just does this? He's single. Okay, cool. Yeah. And how old is he?

He's... Upper 50s. Okay, cool. Yeah, you said he's been doing it a long time. Okay, so, okay, go back to your other experiences. So, well, one of the things, because our long-term friend is by, he also wants to feel being penetrated.

well, I can't do that. And so that led us to look for somebody else to bring in for all three of us. Well, that hasn't happened yet. But in the meantime, we've played with three or four other guys. And we have two that are on a regular rotation, as it were. We have a friend that comes from out of town twice a month, and we meet up with him in his hotel room, and then another more local. And so the one that's more local, we think we're going to.

going to be able to bring them in to with our long-term friend. Okay, but walk me through those experiences like those other guys that you've met. Are they all, I mean, because you said some of them, like haven't been by or most of them buy and hook up with you too? Well, yeah, the ones that we bring in are by. I mean, we want them. We had fine. We had one that kind of fell off because he was a terrible communicator.

We would text them and he would take days or sometimes a week to get back to us. That's so normal. And Susie doesn't like that. You know, you have to communicate. So we cut them loose, which I'm really sad about because he was so good to me. He was so good to me. He had the biggest cock I've ever seen in person. And my husband swallowed that up in his asshole.

Like you would not. I know at one point I was just sitting there with my mouth open because I could not believe how he just opened up and took it. Wait, wait. But this is the guy that's not by, but he took it? I don't understand. I'm a little confused. No, no, no. He was, no, he was by, but he just didn't communicate very well.

But you saw him at least once. Oh, yeah. It's three, three times, I think. Yeah, three times. Yeah, three times. Yeah, we played three times. Okay. So, yeah.

And so that's where we are with that now. And then another guy, there was a couple of meets for dinners and, you know, Susie and the guys fooled around in the backseat while I was up front. Wait, wait, wait, wait, you got to slow that story down. Okay, can you explain the details of that? I'm trying to picture it. Oh, sure, sure.

So these were guys that we met online and would say, okay, we're going to meet for lunch or dinner. And then we do that. We go at lunch. And then Susie likes to give them a little audition in the back seat of our car. And she starts making out with them. and other things. Yeah, hand job. I don't know.

Yeah, I think you gave one guy a blow job, right? Maybe. Yeah. So, yeah, so that's a lot of fun. And I'm up front watching, keeping guard and watching them. Oh, my God. When did that start? Have you done that since the beginning?

Pretty much, yeah, yeah. You didn't tell me that. Sorry, Susie, when you were explaining. You explained your part. No, no, stop. Stop. She went through her a whole story in the beginning. It was so interesting.

Like your guys process. She didn't say a part of the process and interview experience was, you know, get in the backseat and do a test run of the car. So that is one of the things that changed. Oh, okay. I like that. Tell me that story. Well, I love to kiss so much that I have to know up front if the chemistry is there with

kissing. And so, yeah, there were a couple of them where we ended up in the backseat of our car. There wasn't any sex because I just, I didn't want that. It was more of just that connection with the kissing and the groping and getting a feel of what that person is like. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I love it. I mean, that's an interesting part of your process. Especially because you're doing like you're meeting like for a lunch a lot of times. So it's like broad daylight in a parking lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And you're in the front watching or like in the rearview mirror? Yep. Yep. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's that level of like getting caught. That makes it a little exciting.

But it also makes it nerve-wracking because I don't want to get caught. Of course not. Are you blowing them? Like, how far do you go in the back seat of that car? I don't, it's more just kissing in a hand job. I won't blow them. They'll, they definitely stick their finger in me, but I won't blow them. Okay, so it's like third base action in the back.

Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. And now, so you're trying to set up the girl thing. What other, like, bull story or not, well, you don't like to call them bulls. Like, do you have any other guys that have made it into, like, a permanent rotation for you guys? Like, the other guy? Yes.

yes you know it's we are we have two other ones so there's there's three total three total now did you ever think of bringing those other ones in for the threesome with the guy your guy friend because like you said that that guy wants to be topped as well and because jeff can't top him you're thinking of bringing another guy and do you ever think to bring in one of your other guys into the and to have like a foursome well one of my fantasies is to get gang banged so I I 100% want to bring all these guys together to do that. So it's just a long process. It's not something that I want to just jump into and do with just random people.

So it's turning in, that is, that's a process that's taking a while. Yeah, I get it. I mean, listen, you guys just started like not even a year ago. Like, I mean, it's going to be a year pretty soon. And you've had a lot of experiences. I mean, you don't, what's the rush? it sounds like you're having a lot of fun for sure. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. A lot of fun. Now, have you met any women to get into the mix? Because now you want to see, besides Jeff still wanting that experience of seeing you with a woman, you want to see him with one. I do. And we have not. I mean, aside from that experience at the Swinger Club, no, there hasn't been, it just

hasn't presented itself. But are you, did you change your profile to like look for that as well now? I mean, I think sometimes the unicorn is harder to find, right, than a guy that's going to come in? Well, right now we have only one profile and that's on Reddit. And those are all guys that have been preaching out. Some are bisexual, some are not. Oh, you're not on field anymore? No, that, that after that initial interaction,

it just kind of fizzled out. It, it, there just wasn't anything else there, right, honey? Like, it just didn't, it just didn't produce. But I, I think maybe part of that is just with the first one, expectations are pretty high now because he set the bar pretty high. Well, you're really lucky you got a guy that was, you know, a super cool, you know, cool enough that you guys are friends with him at this point. As well as like very, like you said, experienced.

he's been able to really help you guys navigate. Like he, like you have him help you vet people that you meet. And he says like, oh, yeah, that one's cooler. Stay away. Like what kind of tips has he given you as a veteran? So with the communication that we have with him, he asks a lot of questions that, you know, did you ask him this? Did you ask that?

And sometimes I did or I didn't. And so he helps to open up that door into, hey, make sure. there's this. Are you sure he's not married? Watch his schedule. When does he communicate with you? Stuff like that. So it's that bar now and with his level of communication is pretty high. Very high. Right. But he helps. And I think that that's like super cool. And you do, listen, two other guys are in the rotation. I mean, it's not like you haven't found anybody to work out. I feel like you've been pretty successful at finding people. Because I listen, I talk to couples all the time. but sometimes some couples find it very hard to find even one person that's not flaky,

that shows up, that's cool, that fuck's good, you know what I mean? I mean, you have a couple, a few. But I also think part of that, Kathy, is we're not interested in just one-night stands and random hookups. The process of finding somebody that we can connect with outside of the bedroom helps. So there's a lot, we have a lot of things that are common with him. that have made everything else even better. No, listen, of course that makes sense,

but most couples are role like you. I love the couples that don't. I love the couples that are like, we want to fuck someone and never see them again because it's so like rare. It's like honestly, it's fucking funny, you know? I remember I had one couple. They were super religious and the guy said to the wife,

like, do you want to be selective or do you want to be slutty? She's like, let's fucking be slutty. You know what I mean? She just wants to fuck whoever. They don't care. You know, but like I think most couples, do role like you. But it just, listen, it's like any kind of relationship. I think it is just hard to find people that you have all these things in common. You happen to be lucky. I think you don't

even understand because this is your first time out. You've met this guy who's like super great and you've been able to find other people too. I just think some couples, you know, even though they roll exactly like you and want all the same things like you do, they don't find people that easily. It's hard to find, but you have it. Are you into all the kind of like stuff? Like have you done all the stuff that you could do with two guys or more like the DP, the DVP, the airtight, all spit roasting, all those terms I've learned from my show? I've been spit roasted by them. I haven't had DP yet or DVP.

That is also on my list to experience. So I hope that happens very soon. So you're into anal action. You'll go there. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'll go there. All right. And now, how do you like when your guys, like, dressed up, like, in his panties? He says sometimes he takes, like, the sissy roll. Like, is that a turn on to you?

I love it. I love it. And I love watching him be comfortable in it. He's bought some stuff. And I, you know, just watching him try it on and embracing that part of it has been a lot of fun. I love it. I just love watching him be his real self. So, I mean, I say just, just, just, Let the freak flag fly and let's see what happens. And now, Jeff, was this something? Because listen, I talked to a lot of cross-chesters. I have a whole Fetish Friday thing going down. Now, I don't know.

Is this something that you consider like this was always something that you were into? Or did it just sort of, you know, something you tried and you realized you were into more like a kink? Like this dressing up and being a cissy kind of thing? Yeah, it was, yeah. No, I never thought of it up until a few months ago. Like I said, one guy said, one guy said, He was into it and I said, all right, well, yeah, yeah, I've heard it. Let me try some lace panties and go from there.

And then it got, then it, to me, it's more like a costume. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it. Okay, this is what you want. But, but I do, I do like it. It is, it is fun, you know, shaving everything and, you know, exfoliating and using lotions and things like that. It is kind of, it is kind of fun.

And like I said, I'm not a hairy guy anyway. it's very easy to maintain. And then somehow, like when you get into, when you are there, though, with the guy all shaved and wearing the panties, you are more like the girl in the situation, the more like this, you're being like a sissy, like, and that's kind of a turn on to you just for that night or whatever. Well, yeah, you know, being a gentleman of a certain age growing up where he always had to be the masculine man and take care of everything constantly and be on top of everything.

it's nice to be kind of like the sub and have someone take care of you and hold you and like you know kind of release all your your cares in the world at the time bingo that's really what it's where it comes from and a lot of people think it's the opposite if they're on the outside looking in like oh that guy's like so not alpha less of a man and it's really just about because you're just being a man all the fucking time it's just like a release and escape you know it's no long it's like it's just like checking out Yeah, yeah. So it doesn't change anything. For you, No, Susie, you're totally into it. I mean, listen, you got like, I love these second, third marriage

stories because sometimes it's, a lot of people are stuck in like these horrible first marriages and they don't want to leave. But sometimes if you, if you do, this is what's on the other side, right? Oh, it's been amazing. And it's, for me, having coming out of the first marriage that was not great, looking for that next person, it became more of, hey, this is what I want. And also more importantly, what I don't want, my hard note. I'm not going to put up with this and this, this is and this. And it just kind of goes from there. And so finding that person that respects those hard knows and understands that,

okay, this is where she's at. This is what she expects is I got pretty lucky. You got very lucky. Yeah. So, I mean, you guys met at you started dating in 2019. you got married, you're married now, right? Yes. Yes.

Yeah. And so what's in your future, a gang bang, him fucking a girl? Jeff, are you looking forward to that? Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And I also want to be gang bang. Oh, you should listen. One of my favorite titles I ever created on my show is James is a cum dump. Oh, cool.

I think you'd like it. It was such a funny title. Yeah, how old is that one? It's not that old. I'll look up the number for you, Honestly, he was like the most lovely. He was, he didn't, he lived in Canada, I think, but he was, he was from Ireland, he had an Irish accent.

He was a really lovely gay man. And he, but he went to this place, like this guy had a place set up where he like had guys gang bang guys and he were like, wrote numbers on their asses. Like, I mean, I think he found him on Twitter or something. And he went and he just loved going there and this guy would set it up for him and, you know, guys would come in and do it. And I just always thought it was like such. a funny title because it really was what he was

but if you listen to him, not only is he come down he was a very lovely man, it's episode 886, you might like it. Oh, okay, I'll check that up. Yeah, I do listen to your older ones from time to time, I... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I have so many. How do you fucking know which one is to look for? You know what I mean? It's hard

to find the ones, but you might like that one because you want to be gang bang, too. Yeah, yeah. But to answer your question about Susie, yes, I I want her to experience everything that she wants to and everything she can. And I'm just very excited to be part of this journey of hers and mine. It definitely sounds like you're both so into watching the other person be pleasured and experiencing whatever it is that they want to.

And that's why you barely have any rules left. Yeah, that's pretty much gone out the window. except with the communication. That's still kind of the most important, knowing what each of us are thinking and feeling, and that is still number one and will always be there. But as far as like things we want to experience and do and how all that, yeah, that seems to change.

Right. And you're both just like really open to whatever the other person is going to want to be into. Well, listen, I'm so glad that you guys called into my show and told your story. I could talk to a million people who have opened up their relationships, but each one is like totally unique. And I think people could always learn a little bit from every different story that I put out there. I love your story.

It sounds like you're already professionals and you're only like not even a year into it. You know, I will give you free. If you want to send me an anonymous picks for my Patreon, you could do that. But like the picks for Patreon should just be like R rated, nothing X rated. But I'll also give you free access to my Discord. You guys could go in there for free as well. you could post whatever you want there. There's a guest channel where guests can post and talk to people.

You might hook up with people. People have hooked up on my Discord just so you know. There's a lot. There's like over 5,000 people on my Discord. And there's a lot of stuff going down there. I don't get involved in it. That's like a place where you guys could go in if you want and do whatever. But I'll just give you free access to that.

But if you're going to send me an anonymous picks, just do that sooner than later. So I have them. Okay. Okay. We will do that. All right. Thanks, you guys. Thanks so much for calling in.

This was like a super fun episode. I love your whole story. Thanks, I had fun too. Okay, bye you guys. Thank you. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers,

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