Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1237 - Justin Cheated on his Wife in the Lifestyle with Couples, Men and Women

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Justin cheated on his wife for years in the lifestyle with couples, men and women and he called in to talk about it. Tune in t hear all the details including the first time he cheated and exactly what... went down, how he wound up at his first a swingers club and the couple he had a 3some with and what went down, the next threesome he had and what went down, his first experience with a guy and what went down, the adult theater experiences he had wit men and couples, the times he cheated on his wife with a woman while she was sleeping, the time he cheated on her on vacation at an adult theater with guys and what went down, how and why he now can’t orgasm with his wife plus a whole lot more **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠⁠ Use my promo code STRICTLY at checkout to get 30% off sitewide ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2528-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://viia.co/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Try VIIA and use code STRICTLYANON for great SEX and sleep ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I change everyone's voices, just send me an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com, or go to my website, strictly anonymouspodcast.com and click on Be on the Show. If you want to call the Confessions hotline and leave a naughty confession, you could do that 247. The number's 347-4-7-4-5-79. That's 347-4-203579. Some of those confessions make it to a Confessions episode where me and Erica or another co-host talk about them. All the rest go on to my Patreon. Now my Patreon is a really great deal, especially if you don't like my intros. They get all my episodes early, ad free, and now intro free. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:02:31 He's one of those. Normally I'm cock-blocking that kind of stuff. But I tried to ask him questions in the beginning and he was hard for him to answer. So I'm like, I'm just going to let him go and do his thing. Justin is like reminiscing here. Okay. Justin is married. But in the middle of this episode, you're going to forget that he's married because it really sounds like he's living in the swingers world and doing all these crazy things as a single guy.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But no, he is married and he is cheating. But really what he goes into is like all his hookup stories. You know, the first time he cheated and then how he got really involved in the swingers community as a solo guy while he was always out of town on work. He did a lot of different things in swingers clubs. He talks about all of them gangbings, hooking up with guys. Threesum's you fucking name it, he's done it. Then eventually he does talk about some times where he completely cheated on his wife while she was with him. That includes going to glory holes and sucking dicks and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:31 When he's talking, he is like reminiscing. He hasn't really cheated on her in many years. And we end the conversation talking a little bit about his porn addiction. He feels like he is addicted to porn now. And even though he doesn't cheat on his wife anymore or do any of those things because he's so addicted to. to porn, he finds it difficult to get off with his wife. So we end talking about that. Like I said, I don't talk at all in this episode until like the last 10 minutes because he just said one story after another. So all you people who hate when I talk and ask the questions and just want to hear the dirty
Starting point is 00:04:02 stories, you're going to get that with Justin because I just let him do his thing. His story's super interesting. I forgot he was married in the middle of it. You might too. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Justin. I hate Justin. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are today? I am great. I can't wait to participate. Yeah, well listen, Justin, you are a guy who cheats and you cheat a lot and you cheat doing like some really hardcore things. This isn't like cheating with the girl at work, fucking someone in a car kind of cheating. This is like way more hardcore, right? There's a lot of action and places you're going and things you're doing behind your wife's back, correct? Yes, that's correct. I can't say that I'm really
Starting point is 00:04:46 proud of doing it behind her back, but that's kind of how our life unraveled here, and I've had a lot of fun at it. Okay, well, let's start at the beginning. Let me just ask the beginning questions to get an overview of, like, your marriage and stuff. How long you've been married to your wife? 40 plus years. Okay, so married forever. How long you've been cheating on her, like from the get-go recently? No, I started cheating about 15 years into our marriage. Okay, so for 15 years you were totally monogamous. That's correct. Okay, and were you always monogamous before her? Did you consider yourself like a very monogamous guy?
Starting point is 00:05:27 No, we started together. We both got married at 19. Oh, my God. So we've been with other, a long time. So you didn't really have much time before her. So who you've been has always been just with her? That's it. She was my first. Oh, okay. So you lost your virginity to this woman. Yes. Was there something specific that happened at that 15 year mark that made you go out and cheat? Or was it, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:54 like what was it around that time that changed you? No, I was away from home. And nothing unusual happened, but I was at a corporate event. And the opportunity came up with a lady from the dance floor. And I took a advantage of it. And after that, it was more, more, more, more until we got here today. But you went and did some, like, crazy things. Like, we're talking bookstores, Buddy Ranch, like, you know, like all kinds of crazy places you went to the extreme, as I feel like, you know, leading a very double life. Before that, I mean, was it just that no woman in 15 years had ever, you know, been available for you to cheat? And that's the only reason why you did. in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:06:43 No, we had a very good marriage. And we had a normal sex life those first 15 years. But we were both working a lot. So even though there was opportunities to cheat, I never acted on it. So why at that time do you think that you did act on it? Because you said, like as I said, what happened at 15 years? Oh, there was a woman on the dance floor that was available. but there were other women available before.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Why do you think at that moment you took that availability and went with it as opposed to previously? Were things not that great with your wife? Was there anything going on at home that was different than the past that things gotten stale? Was there not that much sex because you had kids? Like, you know, what was going on at 15 years in your marriage? My wife was super conservative and because I was away from home for a couple of weeks and met some people on the outside world and it was easy to cheat. That's when I took advantage of it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 This was the first trip you overtook? Yes. Okay, but then you wind up traveling a lot. It sounds like you're in Vegas a lot. Or do you maybe live there because you do a lot of your cheating. Are you going there for work? Are you going there for vacations? Do you live there?
Starting point is 00:08:06 It was always traveling from work. When I started doing the traveling, it said, okay, this could be a lot of fun. So it brought some variety that I didn't have because my wife was my first partner. Okay, so let's get to the, so it's 15 years, you're out of work trip. What happened on the dance floor that you knew? Like, was some girl, like, grabbing your crotch? Like, what do you mean? Like, you're on the dance floor and, you know, there was an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I know that one was actually Kathy I'm sorry I was thinking about a different event are you talking about the first opportunity Yeah we're going back We're now at the point where like you're 15 years You cheat on her first time
Starting point is 00:08:51 That one got it Got it Okay we met this girl on the dance floor And we're staying My other Work partners Okay so you meet a girl on the dance floor Okay, and?
Starting point is 00:09:07 And we hit it off, had great conversations. We were staying at that hotel for a week, and one thing led to another, and we were in the backseat of a car and started making out. But like you started hanging out? Was she from your work? Was she there on vacation? Like, what was her story that she's at the hotel with you?
Starting point is 00:09:31 She would just go to that hotel to, dance at the bar. She was a local. Okay, so she's a local. She's hanging out there. You're talking to her, but you're married. She obviously sees your ring, but you just continue to talk to her after the night is over while you're on vacation and say, hey, like, how do you wind up in a car with her going someplace? We were coming back from a dance. A dance? You mean a club? Yeah, sure. We're coming back from a club on the other side of town. Oh, my God, I don't know if I believe you.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Okay, so you're coming back with the bar. You're in a car. You're in a cab. You guys are at a bar. You're like hanging out. You're like hanging out. Your drinks are flowing. You're having a good time talking.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You decide to go someplace else. Where are you going in that car? We're going back to the hotel that I'm staying at. Okay. So you invite her back to your hotel. Inviter back to the hotel. Inviter up to the room. And we started kissing and feeling each other.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And it didn't take too long before the clothes came out. And she pushed my head in the direction of her pussy. So I knew that she wanted to eat her out, which I did. And then we fucked. And that was the end of the night. Okay. Now, how did you feel after that? I mean, this is a guy that's never cheated.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You've never been with any other woman except your wife. You know, this is your first time. How do you feel about it? No, I felt pretty guilty, and it took me quite a few months before I could get over it. So you felt guilty for cheating? Yes. Okay. And now when do you start?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Because you started cheating with men, with women, you know, trans women that you find online, you start going to, just use this crazy things. You know, what happens from there and how do you become such a professional cheater? Sure. I guess I was away from home more and more often. And I was at a, oh, it was a venue. I didn't even know what they called them at the time, but you could go into a private booth, and they would have a frosted window, and you'd put your money in the frosted window,
Starting point is 00:11:58 and then you'd have a girl behind the screen, and we could interact with each other. and we struck up this conversation and she asked me if I were or have ever been at a swingers club I didn't know what a swingers club was but that led me led me to the first swingers club so she just brought up the swingers club you didn't know what it was and then where did you find one in your area like where did it like when did you go to the swingers club did you go with the girl through in the frosted window I mean like it's absolutely no No, I went, she gave me the name of the club and went down there at the club.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Okay, and what went down? So you can walk around in the club and see the different venues. They had a dance floor and a bar. And then when you went to the back room, there were three or four private rooms. And then there was a room with a bed in it and there were windows all around that room. So I was just exploring that one. And I went out and it kind of had a lobby area and there was a couple setting there. And I sat down the chair just down from them and we struck up a conversation.
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Starting point is 00:14:49 nude magazines, actually. Okay. And as part of the conversation, after we got through the small talk, I asked them if they would like to do a threesome. It's been confirmed with his wife, and she said, sure, let's do it. So we walked down the hallway until we came to the room with the windows around the bed, and we entered that room. and this couple was very experienced. The wife said, let's get our clothes off so we're more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:15:31 So I helped her take her clothes off. She undid my trousers and took my shirt off. And her husband took his shirt off, but his pants were on at the time. And we move over. over to the bed and she lays down with her legs dangling over the bed and her husband got down in front of her and started licking her pussy. So at that time I'm up at her head and I'm just rubbing her cheeks and brushing her hair and she's moaning from the stimulation that she's
Starting point is 00:16:18 getting and she started to yell out, I need pussy. And then she came. So we got it from there. We moved over to another area of the bed. And this time, her husband was on the bed laying down. She was on all of her four. And she was, uh, she was. Um, she was on all of her four. And, uh, she She was on her four. Sorry, Kathy. Are you lying? I just feel like you. No, no, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Okay, just, Heather. You have like 80,000 experiences and you're like going so slow with us. All right. I can go fast on all of them if you like. Go on. So she's blowing her husband and she looked back at me and she said, you can fuck me if you'd like. And we did.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So that was my first experience. in a swingers club like what made you decide to go to a swingers club live life you didn't care like you're girl girl in the booth said i'd have a good time down there so that's where i went okay okay cool so how did you enjoy that did you feel guilty that time that was the second time you cheated okay so no more guilt no i felt no guilt guilt is over i'm beyond that okay so now you're kind of like going to swingers clubs and do you continue on doing stuff like that i know you have gangbangs and swingers clubs like you so you obviously do right yeah yeah no they're swing club swinger clubs are probably my favorite so i was out of town again on another trip and
Starting point is 00:18:01 you used to be able to go online and uh search for social clubs in these bigger cities and that really meant that they were swinger clubs so i got a swinger club so i got a swinger clubs club address from the internet and I went down and went the front door and there's this husband and wife paying and the husband is visibly upset and they're arguing the wife wants to go to a club husband doesn't want to go to the club so we moved in into they had a big dance floor room where everybody could dance and then people would get naked on the stage. And there was one couple from the back of the room that came up, but they would stand on the stage, and there might be five or six of them standing next together. They would begin to dance, and then guys could come up and lick their pussies while they're dancing.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So that was interesting. The couple that had met at the front door that was arguing, they actually ended up at the same table I was at, and the husband went to the rest of the room. room and the lady leaned over and just unfuckled my belt and started playing with my cock. And then the husband came back and he didn't see that, that ended that. But then what was interesting is I went back to a room that had a big TV with porn playing on it. There were probably 11 guys around there all stroking their cocks.
Starting point is 00:19:43 and I was getting ready to leave when a couple came in and sat down next to me, the husband and wife again. So we're watching porn. The husband goes down to eat out his wife, and she reaches over to my crotch and says, can you give me something to hang on to? So I said, sure. So I've got my cock out.
Starting point is 00:20:13 she hung on to that for a while while she's being pleasureed. And then they said, hey, we want you to go in the back room with us. So we went down another long hallway, and I could see in a hot tub, there was a girl setting up on the edge of the tub, and she was getting fucked. And you could kind of hear off in the distance down another hallway that there was some women that were mowing. And we went in, three of us went into another private room this time with a bed in it. And her husband asked her what she wanted.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And she said, I want to suck his cock. So I laid down. She was on her floor. She got up while her husband fucked her. And eventually I came in her mouth. but you're blowing a guy this is the first time you're hooking up with a guy no that was uh that was a uh a guy and his wife no but didn't the guy want to blow you is that what you just said or no well she said she
Starting point is 00:21:22 no no no she said you haven't gotten there okay sorry go on yeah keep going you're just going you're just going to tell your story i don't have to say shit it's easy episode for me okay good go on i love it yeah okay so the uh my first is experience with a guy. No, tell me about the gangbang first. Talk about the gangbanks first. Get to the guy stuff towards the end. Yeah, so now you've got that couple.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Go to the gangbangs and the other stuff. Run it that way. Go on. Okay. I was in another swinger club and went to a back room and there's a nice looking girl laying on her back with what turned out to be her husband, kind of kneeling at her side, and she was having sex with anybody that would come up to the line. There had to be 10 people at a time going up and having sex with her, and her husband just kept
Starting point is 00:22:22 putting lube on her pussy. So that was interesting. Well, she's banging a bunch of guys. Is that the gang bang? Yep, that was the gang bang. Okay, you took part? Yep, absolutely. So there was another
Starting point is 00:22:39 Swingers Club that I went into and went in and sat at the bar and kind of off to the side, they had like a couch. And there was a nice looking young lady there. And I thought, well, that's kind of strange. She was just there by herself. But
Starting point is 00:22:59 eventually, I walked into the back room and as I turned the corner, there was another guy that was sitting at the bar with me and he's fucking some girl and they're just having a great time moved down the hall a little bit further and lo and behold the girl that was out on the couch in the lounge bar area she's on a bed and she's fucking some guy so while we're standing there watching him fuck i still had a towel on two other guys came
Starting point is 00:23:36 me in and stood next to me. And now we start out a conversation. And he, one of the guys, starts rubbing my cock through my towel. Oh, this is your first foray into guys? Because I do know from your email that you eventually do hook up with guys. Go on. Yep. So I wasn't, I wasn't ready for that to happen yet, but it, but it did. And I moved after one of the guys finished in the gal that was on the bed. By that time I was standing there watching and she said, come on if you want to join. So I crawled up in the bed. She was already totally naked and she took my towel off. And we started to kiss and, you know, I was feeling her up and then we began fucking. It was just missionary fucking. And she was really, really enjoying it, of course, as well as I was. And she said, I want to get on top.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So we roll over and she gets on top of me and just fucks the devil out of me. And so I roll off after I finish. She said, I really like your cock. I hope you come back again. So that ended that session, went back out to the bar, walked around some of the rooms. And I walked back into the room where she was. And she said, let's go somewhere more.
Starting point is 00:25:04 private. So she took me down yet another hallway, and there was a kind of a series of beds with curtains around them. And she says, I just want to fuck you alone. So we went in, she started sucking my cock and fingering me a little bit, which was a new experience for me. So we have sex in there. Another lady came in and joined us, so at that time it was a threesome, but They're now leave, and I'm kind of laying there in the bed trying to recover. And these two guys that had been in the original room were standing down at the end of the bed, he wants to know if he can fuck me. And I said, well, let's try.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So that's what he did while his friend watched. Okay. Keep going. You're doing really good, just telling your stories. I don't really have any questions for you. All right. So I picked up from, I think, probably back page, a Swinger club in another town. So I go in this club and there's not too many people around,
Starting point is 00:26:19 but I heard the receptionist tell somebody that the club was packed. So I knew she was just trying to get more people in. But there was a couple I struck up a conversation with, and it was their first time at a swingers club like this. So we had a nice conversation, and then I asked the wife, I said, you know, do you want to go to a back room and play with your husband and the three of us? And her and her husband went off, and they talked a little bit and came back, and they said, no, that they were going to move on that evening.
Starting point is 00:26:57 So I went up this flight of stairs, and I could hear a porn movie being played, and I got up the top of the steps. The porn was on, and there's a guy laid back on a couch with a girl sucking his cock. They're being nice and slow. She's got a nice flowery gown on. So I sat in a chair where I could watch the porn and watch them at the same time. So I just began rubbing the front of my pants, and the gentleman looks over, and he gives me a nod. like he wants me to sit down next to his wife, which I did.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And she reached back while she's blowing her husband, and she starts scrubbing my cock. So I took it out of my pants, and she continued to stroke that. That went on for a little bit. And then she stopped because she was having some back problems. She stood up, stretched out. She said, I'll be okay in a minute. And totally got naked at that point and lay back down and started blowing her husband.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And he tells me she really likes it if you play with her pussy. So I did that. Then he said he, she really likes it if you fuck her while she's blowing me. And so we did that. and then she stopped the action and got up again and she said let's go take a different position
Starting point is 00:28:40 so she sat on a bed with her back up against the wall her husband kneeled next to her and she continued to blow him and I fucked her like that so you imagine she's right in front of me I'm fucking her
Starting point is 00:28:59 and her husband's right next to me she kind of pushes me back and she said oh my husband just came she said i want to blow you now so she started blowing me as i stood in front of her husband and it's kind of funny we uh we finished we all had orgasmed and so we laid in that room and she just we laid back she was stroking her cocks and talking about politics interesting so you imagine imagine and she's right in front of me. I'm fucking her and her husband's right next to me. She kind of pushes me back and she said,
Starting point is 00:29:39 oh, my husband just came. She said, I want to blow you now. So she started blowing me as I stood in front of her husband. And it's kind of funny. We finished. We all had orgasmed and we laid in that room and she just, we laid back.
Starting point is 00:29:58 She was stroking her cocks and talking about politics. interesting okay so there was another time well this is probably my first trip to what i can would consider a sex club not necessarily swingers but where people just went and that was the green door in san francisco when it was still open and it's a huge facility and they would have different rooms with women doing different things there were rooms they were like i gymnasium small gymnasium with the lights turned down dark and guys setting around on the bleachers and they would have red lights like pointer lights and women would come in and they would point to various body parts and then women would have sex with each other so there was another room that
Starting point is 00:30:55 was set up kind of like a sauna but it wasn't i mean it was a big room room that would really warm and damp in there. And I went in that room. It was just me and a gal up on the stage. And she was stripping and starting to play with a dildo. And I asked her if I could jerk off. And she said, no, you're welcome to jerk off. So she continued with her act.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I jerked off. And that was the end of that room. And the other room I remember was there were like almost high top tables more elaborate than that and there were probably eight of them in this room and each one of these tables had two girls making out
Starting point is 00:31:45 and eating each other out so that was pretty erotic now do you continue because you touched a little bit upon a guy on guy thing like I know that you do wind up having guy and guy action yes the real first one I had besides the outside of the swinger club that we just talked about was we had a an adult theater in the town that I lived at and I stopped in there after work one night and had never been there before this was a big cavernous room and I pay my money and as I walk in
Starting point is 00:32:25 porn playing up on the big screen I noticed a gentleman kind of at the back of the room just in a couple of rows. But I made my way down to the middle section in the middle rows, and I'm simply watching the porn. I didn't know what to expect. And I saw this gentleman come down and sat across the aisle, but the same row I was in. And he just kept watching to see what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:32:57 At that point, I wasn't doing anything, but I knew at that point that he wanted to play. So I nodded to him. He came down and sat next to me. He unzipped his pants and was slowly jerking off to the porn. But then he reached over and unbuttoned my shirt. And that was really exciting. So he unbuttoned my shirt and then unbuttoned my pants and pulled them down.
Starting point is 00:33:29 and struck me a little bit, and then he leaned over and sucked my cock. And it was very wet, it was moist, I was absolutely in heaven. So he continued to suck my cock, and I orgasmed into his mouth. He swallowed it. He thanked me, and he left. But how, how, like, did you, how did you feel about hooking up with a gut? Like at this point, because you're just like doing so many things, or you just like open and down for whatever goes down?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Did you always know that you were into guys and wanted to be with them? Because you really, like, took a turn, you know, 15 years into your marriage. Yeah, I'm not absolutely what happened, but no, I was never into guys at that point. It was just another chance meeting at this theater because I went in to watch the porn. And I knew eventually that you could jerk off, but I didn't know that there was guy and guy sex happen. happening. So that's how I got started with dying guy sex. But you had never run into it, but you weren't opposed to it, obviously, and you
Starting point is 00:34:39 were down? No, I wasn't. Yeah, I was down for it. I mean, I had watched it on porn before. Okay, so you had maybe a little curiosity? Like, yeah. Okay. Yep, yep. So that was the first experience there. I was in that same adult theater another time. Now I'm a season veteran. And about halfway down on the aisle and there were guys all around me. At that point, I've already started to masturbate.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And I hear a lot of ruckus in the back of the room. And I heard the doors open where people would come in and I could see guys in front of me turning around. And it was a guy and a gal entering theater together. So you can imagine that all. guys in the theater was going to want to see what she was going to do. So probably about eight of us went to the back of the room. She had pulled a chair over in front of her, and then it simply took her clothes off.
Starting point is 00:35:45 She would fold him, laid him down next to the chair, and she pointed to a guy and said, you're first. So he moved over. She blew him until he came. and the gentleman she came in with had a cloth and she spit that one into the cloth. And then she simply went on to the next one. And while she's doing that, one of the other guys was standing around us. They're playing with my ass.
Starting point is 00:36:14 So that was pretty exciting. But she finished up from that position and she went down into the middle of the theater and in a regular theater chair and her companion. was next to her. He stayed fully closed, but she doesn't have anything on. And four or five of us standing behind her, and another guy gets in front of her and says, can I eat your pussy? And she said, sure. So he was eating her pussy, and she would just reach back from time to time and stroke our cocks. And then she orgasmed him and got up to move on. But this time she moves down to the front of the theater, front row, big porn screen, her companion sat down next to her,
Starting point is 00:37:01 and a guy came up on the right side and kneeled up in the chair next to her, and she started sucking him. So, and he got off. So I said, well, maybe this is an opportunity for me. So I sat down next to her, and she started stroking my cock. And, you know, I was also interested interested in her companion so I looked over at him and said can I handle your cock while she's working on mine he said no I'm okay so she's sucking my cock and she's really into it really enjoying it and her companion reached over and tapped her and said you want to fuck this guy don't you and she said I would like to fuck him and the guy said well I think it's probably safe because he's got a nice wedding ring on you keep your wedding ring on there
Starting point is 00:37:55 Yeah, oh yeah, I still had my wedding room on. Okay. So she said, okay, I want to fuck him. So I had to walk out in the lobby and get condoms and came back. And by that time, there was another guy eating her out. But he saw me standing there and he said, you were here first. So you can take over. So I went over and had the condom on and started fucking her.
Starting point is 00:38:23 and now there's probably eight more people standing around watching. And she turned around, she wanted it doggie. And so I put it in doggy and just continued to fuck her until I came in the condom. Mm-hmm. There you go. There you go. I'm sorry, do you want me to lead you anywhere else?
Starting point is 00:38:50 You're doing so good. Yeah, yeah. I would. I would. It wasn't just about storytelling because I still have, you know, I do have guilt about it. Oh, yeah, I'll get to that story. Okay, you get to that. Yeah, listen, I could psychoanalyze you for the next 20 minutes if you want.
Starting point is 00:39:06 We have 20 minutes. I mean, I do know that you do get even worse. Okay, this is, to me, the worst part of your cheating. Like right now, all these stories, it sounds like you're a single guy in the Swinger's lifetime, but in the Swingers' lifestyle. But the truth is you got a wife. And the truth is, you told me a lot of stories in your email where you do, you did stuff, not while you were on a work trip, but when you were on a trip with your wife.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yeah, we had some great experiences. No, not you and her. You said you did some glory hole stuff while she's sleeping that shit. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, okay. I'm not talking about your fun with your wife. Obviously, you know, this is more about all like this stuff. Like, you know, you have done stuff while you were on vacation with.
Starting point is 00:39:53 her. Correct? Yes. Okay. Yes, I have. I mean, that's like messed up. It is, but it's a hell of a lot of fun too, won't you do it? Okay. My wife and I had to travel to Vegas quite often. And the first time it happened, she was sleeping. I went down to the casino, and I was, you know, watching for ladies of the night walking around. But I walked out of into a hall and there was a really cute young lady sitting there on a bench and I sat down next to her and struck up the conversation and she asked me if I wanted to play in a limo and I said sure she had this limo all set up down in the lobby of the hotel and we pulled away from the hotel and she took all my clothes off and then she undressed herself and she laid back and I fucked her in the limo as we're
Starting point is 00:41:02 driving around Las Vegas. How long though are you like with this woman because you are cheating on your wife and your wife's in the hotel? You know like how long are you MIA and where do you tell your wife you're going? Because it sounds like it wasn't planned. No it was not planned. It was just in the middle of night and she was just sleeping and I went down the casino, which is not unusual because I don't sleep well. Okay, so she's not going to be like, where the fuck are you? You're just saying you're down at the casino. That kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. What about your time that you go to a bunch of glory holes while she's back at that? Yeah, she, we were on another work trip, and she went off to work and I had playtime. Mm-hmm. And there were two different adult bookstores on opposite ends of this town. down and they both had glory holes in them. So the one day I go down and go in and you're typical walking on the hall, there's five or six booths and you open the door and there's a hole in the wall next to the room that you're in.
Starting point is 00:42:10 So I sucked a guy off in that glory hole, the first one, and I love it when they come in my mouth. It's just a total thrill. So then I opened the door and there were four or five guys crowded around and I motioned for the first one to come in and he took all of his clothes off, rubbed him all over his body and then sucked him off till he came in my mouth. And there were two or three others on that same day. So I was in there. probably for half a day. And then the next day got up and went to their sister bookstore and did the same all over again. And do you get off on the fact that like your wife is like not in the know, but she's like there? And it's so super naughty and dangerous and really bad.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah. When we were going to Vegas like that, that's exactly what it would be. But after I did the first one, I couldn't stop doing it. but you get turned on by the fact that you're doing something really wrong and bad is what oh yeah absolutely it's it's very exciting to me right now has your wife ever caught you doing anything no the marriage would be over the next day so that's why i was very careful just to do most of it out of town listen when you're doing it when your wife is like with you at the place at the hotel that's not very careful
Starting point is 00:43:48 big place though, Kathy. I know, but all it takes is like you to get an offender bender. I don't know. There's like, I, I overthink things. So I just think, oh my God, there's so many things that you could get busted. But other people aren't like me. That's why all this kind of shit goes down, which is good. But like, okay, I just think, you know, when you're doing stuff, and I'm going to go back to when you're doing stuff when your wife is at home. Like, you know, like she's in the hotel. I know that Vegas is a big place. You could kind of sneak off to fuck someone come back, but like, what about their stink on you? Like, do you take a shower the minute you come in? Like, there's like tells.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Like, I just don't know how you get away with it in those situations. I don't think I was that smart, Kathy, because... And your wife doesn't... Like, she's not suspicious. No, no. That is strange, though. I'd never thought about that one. I mean, you have a stink of sex on you.
Starting point is 00:44:43 The perfume of the girl, just, you know, glitter from the stripper. You know, I don't know. Now, no, killer. Quick question, because we had 10 minutes. You went from being like this really like monogamous guy to doing all kinds of hardcore things, living a very major secret life. Your wife has never caught you. How is the sex with your wife?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Very sparse. And we have sex maybe once every six or seven weeks. And usually it's pretty good. We have a lot of fun doing it, but it's not very often. And I have become addicted to porn. So I watch a lot of porn, masturbate a lot, and I can get off when I'm watching porn and masturbating. But when it comes time to get in the bedroom with my wife, I can pleasure her. But no matter what we do, how hard we might masturbate, how much she blows me, I can't
Starting point is 00:45:50 have an orgasm. But you can with all these other people? Well, I've been away from all these other people now for a few years. Oh, okay. So maybe you're just dealing with some medical stuff? Yeah, and I just think it's from all the porn that I've done. Yeah, that doesn't have. She can't excite me enough.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, you're like addicted to, like you got yourself wired into all this other stuff that that regular sex with her can't do it. You'd have to like let go a little bit of that porn. stop going to do it so furiously. Yes. The rabbit hole you could get sucked into. Yes. I made a couple attempts to do that.
Starting point is 00:46:33 The last attempt I made was probably two months ago, and I made it for about six weeks, but then I was triggered to go back to it. And it was because I had quit listening to your show. and one day I'm driving down the road, so I'm going to listen to Kathy. Oh, no, my fault. Then that triggered me back into more porn, so now I'm stuck. Yeah, it's hard because, you know, listen, you're a man. You're only getting laid like once every seven weeks.
Starting point is 00:47:06 In between that, what are you going to do? You know, you'd have to learn how to be kind of moderate. It's a little bit unrealistic if you're, you know, or you're kind of setting yourself up for failure if you tell yourself you're going to do no porn, right, whatsoever. forever forever. I mean, that's probably not a possibility for you. But somewhere in between zero porn ever and porn constantly to the point where you can't even get off, you know, being, having real sex. There's something in the middle of that that you should kind of strive for maybe, you know. Did you ever think to watch porn with your wife? Is she down for that or open to it?
Starting point is 00:47:44 We did early on in our marriage, and I thought we did a great time with it. And then one, it was actually a romantic night. Kids were gone. I set up candles in the living room, had soft music playing, and had the porn on, which was kind of how we would do this. And she walked in the room, we laid down on the floor, and she said, I don't want to do porn anymore. And that was the last time that ever happened.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And that was a long time ago. That was a long time ago. And now is your wife in menopause? Like, is she even horny at all? Occasionally, if she's been drinking, she'll get horny. But no, she's well past menopause. Okay. And does she question, you know, like is she, is it frustrating for her that you can't come?
Starting point is 00:48:37 Like, how does she move on it? No, no, no. She's fine with it. I mean, as a matter of fact, I don't have a prostate. So I can still orgasm, but I just can't, I just can't ejacogalate. So she is, she was fine with that. I'm the one that gets frustrated that, you know, she worked really hard to get me off. And it just doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, well, that's because you're just like, there's so much porn out there and it just like desensitizes you, you know. And you've done a lot of stuff too as well outside of your. marriage that's very extreme so I think maybe that also comes into play when you're really wired and getting off on such like dirty wrong shit you know to go back to have just regular intimate really nice like connected sex with your wife how that could be not so great because you did a lot of cheating on her and now you're getting off on a lot of porn to feed you. that side of you, right? Because you went in that direction. And now you're left not really being
Starting point is 00:49:47 able to get off by your wife. But she's okay with it. She doesn't, does she know that you're addicted to porn? Does she have any clue about that? Does she care? No, she knows that I used to sneak and watch porn after she didn't want me to do it. Right. But she does not have any clue how addicted I actually am. I don't know if I could ever cut it out of my life altogether, but I would certainly like to, to get it down to a manageable level where I could get off with her. Yeah, listen, and that's the hard part. You know, I think it's more hard to be moderate than it is to be black and white. There are some addictions like alcohol, I quit drinking.
Starting point is 00:50:26 It was easy for me. Not easy. Okay, it was the hardest thing I ever did. But with alcohol, alcohol doesn't have to be a part of your life, right? So you can completely cut it out. It's a lot harder when people are addicted to food or work or sex because these are things that you have to do as a human being in your regular life. Like you can't completely cut out food.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You can't completely cut out sex. You're married. It's a part of your intimate life with your wife. So how do you let go of that addiction? It's a little, it's harder because you have to learn that moderation. And that's why you might need help. So, you know, maybe get a therapist.
Starting point is 00:51:03 You know, you figure out how to cheat for so many years. You could see a therapist without her knowing. That sounds more difficult. Yeah, exactly. That's what you would say, but please, I mean, all that fucking cheating and all that stuff you did. You had the balls to do that. You know, go to a therapist and, you know, talk to someone for it and just get some help. Or there's just like look online, figure out to see how other people did it. I mean, but it's a little bit harder to be moderate with something that you're addicted to, but you could do it and you should do it, you know, because I think it's just, it's a terrible feeling to be addicted to something. You feel like the hamster in the wheel. You can't fucking get off, you know, as much as you're wired into it. I don't. I don't. I don't. don't know, I don't like to feel addicted to something and I'm an addict, you know, I like to kick the fucking thing because I don't like for something that I have that much control over me. So, you know, maybe it's time to work on that, but I would say you might need a little help. And there's help out there.
Starting point is 00:51:57 It's not something you have to go to a therapist for the rest of your life, you know. Yeah, no, that's good advice. I think all those sexual adventures are behind me now. And this was the first time I've ever talked to anybody about it. I've talked to you and your large audience. So that was a look in the rearview mirror. Yeah. And if I can get this porn under control,
Starting point is 00:52:23 we might be back to having better sex with my wife. Yeah. You know, yeah, for sure. Wait till you hear your episode. It's going to be a much more interesting look back because there's something about talking about it. That's, I think, very therapeutic. And people love that.
Starting point is 00:52:36 But there's something even more interesting. when you hear your story back as the third person, right? So you're going to have another look back when your episode airs. Anyway, listen, thank you so much for calling in and sharing all your stories. You made my job very easy. I mean, I put the microphone down at one point. I'm like, I don't have to say one fucking word here. It's just one story.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And let me just tell you, my audience love episodes where it's just like one dirty story after another. I'm always cock-blocking those stories by interrupting and stuff like, but I really didn't have to hear. so I'm glad you enjoyed reminiscing. Thanks for sharing all your stories from your past. Thank God you never caught anything, right? And brought anything back to your wife? Oh, no, that was a...
Starting point is 00:53:19 I've had times where I thought I was in trouble, but it turns out to be other things. Okay, well, you're lucky. You're lucky you never caught anything because you did a lot of shit behind your wife's back. But anyway, thanks for calling in. And I will email you when your episode's up, and give you free access to my Discord
Starting point is 00:53:35 if you want to go in there and chat with my listeners. Okay, I appreciate the opportunity to talk with you, Kathy. Yeah, thank you. What do we call you again? Justin, Justin, thanks for calling it and making my job so easy. You're welcome. Bye. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you have. can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said,
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