Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1248 - Will Started Swinging in the 90’s and He’s Been Swinging Ever Since

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Will started swinging as a solo guy in the 90’s and he’s been swinging ever since and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how he got into swinging through magazine ads before the internet, the first couple he hooked up with and what went down, the second couple and what happened with them, the Caribbean brothels he went to and what went down, how swinging came up with his wife and how they started swinging together, the swinger club they joined and the couples they hooked up with, their hook ups with unicorns and what his wife enjoyed doing with the women, the sex party where he hooked up with four women and what went down, how he evolved from being a bull to exploring cuckolding, his first cuckolding experience and exactly what went down, his second one and why it wasn’t that great, the next one with another woman and what went down, how he got into humiliation and what he enjoys about it, what he’s up to now plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠http://loadboost.com⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2532-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use my promo code STRICTLY at checkout to get 30% off sitewide To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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swinging. And he talks about all the swinging they did. And then he talks about all their hookups and how they like to roll within that relationship. And then he talked about the evolution of everything that came after. You know, now currently he's kind of like very into humiliation. He got into cuckolding. He's kind of been there, done that. Like I said, did I say that already? he's done a lot because he has been playing in the lifestyle and living a very alternative lifestyle since the 90s and he's still at it. And so his story's super interesting. And the evolution is actually interesting because he wasn't always into humiliation, right?

That came over time and he explains it all. So anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Will. Hi, Will. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi, doing well, Kathy. Thanks. Thanks for calling in, Will.

So listen, you're here to say, I think, that you've been swinging from the dawn of time since the 90s, maybe you said. You've been all over the world. You know, you've, and I'm assuming you live an alternative lifestyle no matter where you go, because you were telling me, like, you've been to some brothels in the Caribbean. I'm like, really, they have those there. I wouldn't even know, you know. So we're going to talk about all of your stuff that you've done. I mean, like, I know that you had mentioned in your email, like, oh, I'd love to talk about the different. between swinging now to back then.

Is there like a big difference, by the way, in swinging now compared to back in the 90s when you started? Huge difference, huge difference. I mean, back then, I'll start back in 94, really. Okay, cool. And if you think about it, yeah, there was really no, the internet was just starting back then. So there's no internet. So you're not contacting people through the internet. You're not going on to a website and, you know, putting pictures there.

It just wasn't done that way. Typically, you would have to go to like a bookstore, a sex bookstore. You'd have to go in. You'd have to find a actual book that was like, like, yeah, like a magazine. Yeah. It was like a small magazine you would have to get. And you'd have to purchase it, take it home, you'd read the ads, okay? The photos were all in black and white, and there wasn't many photos.

And they would all have code numbers on them. So what you would do is you'd have to get self-address stamped envelopes. You'd have to get some pictures. Okay. And then you would send it into the magazine or the booklet. And you'd have a letter inside the self-addressed stamped envelopes with the people you wanted to contact with their code number. Okay. So there was a middle person sending it all out.

That's right. Exactly. Yeah. So how many people could you fuck back in the day? but it took that long. Yeah, it took a long time. So you can send out five at a max, five at a time maximum. So out of the five, I did it, I think, maybe two or three times.

Okay, but I need to get more personal with you real quick, okay, because we're starting back in the 90s. I need to know who are you back then when you're doing this. Are you a single guy, you just fucking horny? And because I know, listen, I grew up during those times and I was considered a slut because I fucked guys that I wasn't dating. You know, so I knew that it, I know that it was way harder to just get fucked as a guy back in those days, right? Yes. Than it is now. So were you a single guy just looking to get laid easier through that way?

Or were you like a guy in a relationship having fun with a partner? No, single guy. I was in a graduate school when I started this. I didn't even know I had moved to a different state. I didn't know anything about this. One night, a group of us said one person knew about this. settled bookstore said hey let's go over there so five of us went over there i saw this book eventually i came back and got it okay oh you didn't buy in front of your friends no didn't

buy it for friends no way no and then uh took it and then yeah so that was uh summer of 94 and i remember uh two it was two or three people who got back to me but i ended up hooking with two different couples so uh one yeah one couple had responded that they were traveling across the U.S. They were coming from Ohio. They were looking at a place on their way and I said, yeah, hey, I'm on your way. That would fit in fantastic. They showed up.

This is the first time I had done anything like this. And we had a great time. The guy was very, both of them were super nice people. They came in. We had a couple drinks. He was started to play with him a little bit. I'm going to get right back to the action. Don't worry, okay?

People listening in so mad that I just interrupted you. I just want to paint the picture. You're a young guy, I'm assuming, in the 90s, right? Because we're around the same age. We already discussed this before. So, you know, what's the demographics of them? How old are they about? And, like, how hot or not hot are they?

Well, they were in their 30s. I'd say mid-30s. Okay, not that much older. So, like, 10 years older than me. Okay. Yeah, remember, I'm in graduate school. I'm not just, you know, out of high school or something. So they were, yeah, hot, middle.

Okay. I would say middle, not super hot, in good shape. Both of them are in good shape. But they were, you know, wanted to get right away to it, that's for sure. Okay, so now you get to it. Okay, go back to your story. So now you meet them with this couple and you're about to get it down with them. I mean, this is your first time.

Are you fucking nervous or just excited? Very nervous. Very nervous. And I even remember, you know, I had a condom there and they said, oh, we don't want to use condoms. And I was like, well, I'm just meeting you for the first time. I got to use a condom. And they said, okay, no problem.

But anyway, she had been playing with him. She gave him a blowjob. And then he said, oh, why don't you give Will a blowjob? And I said, oh, that's, you know, that's great. So she came over and gave me a blowjob. And then I laid down on the floor. I still remember laying down on the floor and her straddling me. And that's the way she liked to do it.

So she did it with me for a little while. Then she went back to him. Then she finished off with me. And so that was my first experience with somebody. Again, this was through contacting through this ad. So it was very an unusual way to meet people. But the only way, but the only, but you know, in a weird way, it was probably easy. Like, it sounds like the actual like going about it is very tedious.

But I bet you because it was so tedious that people were more likely to show up. fuck you get to it back then because of what you had to go through to do it where nowadays it's so easy and there's so many people in your inbox that people flake no one gets to you right like so you probably like had more luck back then it was easier very true very true i mean just to get the pictures think about this exactly the pictures nowadays everything's just digitally take with your phone and you go back then you actually had to take film pictures oh my got to bring it to a place yeah well no you couldn't bring it to a plate. You can't just take that to Walmart. My boyfriend, well, no, I'm sorry, one of my boyfriends took naughty picks of us together and

took them to a place and got them, like, but he drove, like, out of state lines to do it. Oh, okay. Because you could go to your, you could go to any camera shop you had to. Like, that's what you went to, your Polaroid place. And they did your picture. Yeah, well, you were smarter than my way. Yeah, yeah. Let's get back to your couple fucking, okay, you fuck that couple. It's pretty incredible all here you are this young guy having this experience. Were you like turned on by all of it?

Like you fucking some guy's wife, you watching her blow him and fuck him and all of that. Like did it all like was it all one big fat turn on for you? Yes it was. Yes and no. I would say it was fun. But like you were saying, it is, it was nerve-wracking. Okay. I think the second experience.

So like I said, I got two or three out of that five that I sent in. And the second one was another hit. The third one was not, but I never ended up with them. But the second one, I went just south of the city I was living in. I met with this couple, but theirs was very vastly different. So we met at this hotel, but they were supposed to have another person join us. In other words, it would be the husband would be watching me and this other guy do his wife. Oh, wow.

And that was at the hotel. But they got to the hotel, and I got to the hotel. and this guy was really creepy. He was a really creepy guy. And they just kind of gave up on him, said, hey, you know, we're not interested. They hopped in the car. They asked me to hop in the back seat with her.

They went about a mile down the road from the hotel. She started giving me a blowjob in the back seat. And they pulled off to the side. Okay. He turned on the light in the car, had the, you know, the mirror aimed down. and he was watching her suck me off, and then she would ride me after. But that was from a couple that I met in that Swapping Magazine.

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She started giving me a blowjob in the back seat. And they pulled off to the side. Okay. He turned on the light in the car, had the mirror aimed down. And he was watching her. her sucked me off and then she would ride me after. But that was from a couple that I met in that Swapping Magazine.

So that was the first time with them. Now, the good thing about them, as opposed to the other couple, the other couple was on their way through the city. But this couple were living just south of me. So we had a really good time. And he just liked to watch and I was doing it. And I think that excited me more. When you're asking me what excited you the most or what got me off.

Yeah. That excited me more was having him watch me do his wife in the backseat and then, and you know, having her blow me and things like that. So maybe you have a little bit of an exhibitionist in you. Oh, I definitely have that. I definitely have that. We'll get into this story in the early 2000s. Okay.

But the one thing that was really interesting was that so I got to do it again. but it wasn't in the car the next time. It was over at their home and got together with them, had some fun. Again, he was just watching. That's all he was doing. There was no video recording, no pictures. Again, it's 94. And a little bit of a journey to get to their home.

It was not that bad, but it wasn't great. We played again. And again, they were a great couple. Were they tens? they weren't tens, but, you know, seven and a halfs, let's say, and very nice people. Just a little bit, you know, once school had started, it was a little bit more difficult to get together with them. So now you're living a very, you're living a very secret life, right? Like, you're not telling any of your guy friends about this shit that you're doing.

Are you at back in those days? No, not at this point. Okay. Point, no way. Are you still dating women or are you just getting action this way? No way. So after that, I want to say like 95, I had a regular girlfriend again from after that for a little while.

Eventually, getting into the 2000s, I met who is now my former ex-wife in around 2002. However, I had bought a property, interesting. And you talk about the exhibition side of things. One, I went down to the Caribbean, late 2000. when I ended up buying a property in the Caribbean. And that was at an island with a nude beach, very popular nude beach. So I had ended up going there a few times on my own.

So I had really enjoyed the nude beach there. It was fantastic. Having a home there also, and I didn't know this actually when I bought the home, but they also had, I think there was three or four brothels on that island. And it was interesting people would just at regular bars would mention it to me. Again, I was a single guy at that point. I was just about to meet my ex-wife at that point. And it was interesting.

I had gone over to the brothels one night and tried it out. And there were, holy God, it was full. Like, there was a lot of people. And a lot of cruise ship people would come in and go to the brothel for the day. and most of the women were either from Columbia or Dominican, and there was always just a lot of them. It wasn't expensive. It was a good time.

I'm sure a lot of people just went there for the bar, but there was, you know, the majority, obviously, that were coming off the cruise ship, single guys and that they would go there for all the different women. It wasn't expensive. Great time. You could just go there for an hour if you wanted, have some fun, and then leave.

there's nothing tying you there. And again, there was, I think there was three or four at that time. And so you had, you know, you could go out to any of those, you know, three or four, any night you wanted and, you know, have lots of fun. And those girls were hot, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, those girls, yeah, yeah. I'd say at least 80% of them had fake boobs and, you know, all very good looking in good shape. And, yeah, I mean, the ones, obviously, they're there to make money. And yeah, it was always a good time, though, going over there and playing around.

Okay, but let me ask you this. Were you doing this while you're with your wife? Because you start dating this woman who turns into your wife, right, around the same time. Yeah, it didn't quite met her. Had met her yet. Oh, okay. So this was in late 2001. I had eventually met her in late 2002.

So, no, I wasn't heading to those places at that time. Do you, like, start swinging with this wife? Yes. Oh, okay. How did it come up? It came up. It was that she was by, and she said it would be fun to get together with another girl. But I said, well, you know, how are we going to do that?

I didn't need that point. I didn't know how to go about that. But I said, I'll look up maybe some sex clubs in the area. And then when I found one that was walking distance, it was really a big surprise. but at that point the clubs were not on premise, okay, in our area. They were off-premise sex clubs, which meant that you would go there, you would meet couples, you could play around a little bit, no intercourse, but then if the couple was, if that's who you enjoyed,

then you would take them off-premise to your home or to a hotel or wherever, and you would swing with that couple. Oh, interesting. You couldn't fuck in the venue. Yeah. No, you couldn't do that. Interesting. Okay. Couldn't do that. Yeah. So what we ended up doing is that we ended up going to this club quite often because

it was so close. And we would, we ended up not as a traditional swinging couple. What we did was really, we found out about four different couples. Okay. And those couples would be the ones that we would keep swinging with all the time. We would do things outside of the club, meaning like they could. with them. At our eventual wedding, we had two of the couples attend our wedding. Right. We had things like that.

But we would take them, those couples take them back to our house and have sex with them there at our home. And those four couples, even though they were young, actually the one couple was a little older than us. The other ones were all about the same age. And their 30s, early 30s. There was one that was early 40s that we ended up with for. for many years. But we did a full swap. I was fucking wife and my buddy was doing my wife. And,

you know, everything goes. There's no, you know, there's no real rules we had about it. I guess the only rule we had was that everything happens in the same room. Okay. But this is your first time seeing your woman that you love with another guy. Were you totally into it? And was she totally into seeing you with women? Yeah, it was great. Okay. Yeah, it was great. I had no. issues with it. I will tell you when I am having sex with somebody, I'm really focused on them. I know that a lot of the callers that you get, they say, oh, they look over their wife. They look, you know, focus or get focused on looking at their wife. I am not kind of that way. I kind of focus. I'm really focused on the person I am having sex with. So I saw her at the start,

starting things. But after that, I'm really focused on the woman, the other guy's wife that I, having sex with. And eventually even one of the couples, we did, we started doing separate room stuff with them. But we did go to a sex club a little farther away on some Friday nights where they allowed singles in, both men and women. And we did, I was going to mention about the unicorns. A lot of people have problems finding unicorns. Well, we didn't have that experience, really.

over about two and a half years, whenever we would go over to one or two sex clubs there on the Friday night, we would look for women at that point sometimes. And yeah, we could find them and, you know, take them back to our home. I remember one sex time we met this woman and she said, hey, you know, I wanted, my boyfriend was away. I wanted to come over here by myself. I wanted to experience a woman.

And I said, okay, so what about me? And she says, well, I don't really, you know, I'm not interested in having intercourse, but of course we can do anything else but that. So, you know, we had her, we had sex with her. It was more of those two, my act and her going to it, going down on each other, 69 and each other. But about halfway between it, she did. She came over to me, started to give me a blowjob.

That was fantastic. My ex could eat her from behind, that kind of thing. still was really good for me, obviously, and all of us ended up having a really good time. But as far as unicorns, yeah, we met lots of unicorns. Again, we're getting into 2005, 2008. We, Internet's around at this point, very easy to meet with people that way, obviously, at that time. And we had a website that was kind of more had locals on it. and we had met, oh, geez, I want to say at least four or five from that website,

four or five single women that we played with. And then at that other club, the off-premise club, we had probably met three. So we had played with about eight different women over, I don't know, maybe three to four years. And having sex with them, just having three ways with them. I have lots of pictures of my ex, you know, going down on the other woman, the woman going down on my ex, me doing both of them. Also, we got into toys. My ex would take a strap on and do the different women.

A lot of the women love doing that, trying on the strap on with her and doing things while I would be taking pictures or I would be joining in, taking pictures and kind of joining in halfway. So as far as the swinging part, not a traditional swinging, going from club to club, playing on premise, more off premise, more meeting people kind of online, and going from there. So I can tell you actually a great story. Well, one of the things again with these four couples, so the one time, the one couple invited us to a house party on Halloween 2008. So I still remember this very vividly because it was just crazy.

So anyways, the couple that we were good friends with, they invited us over. And it was a big house party. And eventually, you know, people started getting naked in this one room where they had these beds. Okay. And I had this, the first woman I had in the main room, I had her on a chair. And she was just like spread eagle on the chair. And I forget her name. That was the only one I forget.

But the other four that I had sex with that night, I remember. all of them. Who cares? Get to the sex. Okay, we don't care with the names. Yeah, so I had sex with the first one.

And then, so I went into the other room for a bit with this other woman. We had sex on the, just on the bed. A lot of people watching us, obviously, but a lot of people were

playing on the bed too. I want to say in that room there was maybe 10 different people in that room, at least. And I'd say maybe there was six people across two beds and then four to six people watching, that kind of scenario.

And then after I had sex with her, I went out into the kitchen. Our friend that invited us, she ended up giving me a blow job just in the kitchen. She just topped her knees. She gave me a blow job. That was fantastic. I went back into the room and my ex was interested in this one guy, but he wasn't really into it. He was a watcher.

He wanted to see his give guys blow jobs, have sex with different guys. So I had sex with her. She gave me a blowjob to start. Then she rode me for a while. And he was, he was just watching. That's all he was doing. So my ex tried to just kind of jerk him off kind of thing.

He was okay with that. But he really didn't want anything more than that. But I had, yeah, full sex with her. That was fantastic in front of other people. And then so I had four different women at that point. And then I finished up with my axe at the end of the night. No one was watching us at that point. I think most people had either gone home or were very tired.

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But I had full sex with her. That was fantastic. in front of other people. And then so I had four different women at that point. And then I finished up with my axe at the end of the night. No one was watching us at that point. I think most people had either gone home or were very tired. It was a very long party, Halloween party, lots of fun.

But yeah, lots of sex with all four of those different people plus my ex at one. Okay. So how long are you swinging with this woman? Like, why do you guys wind up separating? How long were you married for? So we were together for 10 years. We were married for eight. We, yeah, we were swinging.

I mean, with those couples the whole time, we divorced for another non-swinging related. That was the least of our problems at that point. We had some issues. Well, I can't really go into it. It has to do with our children. Let's just say that. We don't need to.

If it had nothing to do with the swinging, It's not like a swinging gone wrong story, but you guys get divorced, but you stay in the lifestyle when you leave her? I really did. I would say this is kind of getting back to the, I did kind of the brothels thing, but I did it over in, over kind of in Asia. So things like Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore, you know, I've been able to travel the world pretty much, which has been really nice. And so didn't you also, but, you know, I want to spend, I know that you also did cuckolding, right? Talk about that. Yes.

So the first cuckolding experience I had, so like I was mentioned, I was still into, still into the lifestyle after 2014. I had met a woman in, I want to say around 2015, she was into it, into swinging, into hot wafing essentially. She was a single woman, but she had a partner. that was Polly. Okay? So her, she had met with him once in a while. She would meet with me once in a while. She would go and do things with them,

have sex with them on the beach, for example, both of them, and have lots of fun. So I knew about him. Her and I had went out to the Swing Club a few times. We had sex just with each other. We really never, ever met anybody.

It wasn't all that great. Anyways, the first cuckolding experience, she brought the friend over. She didn't even tell me she was going to bring him over. Totally opposite guy to be, huge guy, like 6, 7, 260 pounds. He was in the army, huge, hung like a horse. And she had brought him over. And she sat there and just said, hey, can you bring us some drinks?

Hey, we're going to go in the hot tub and just kind of, you know, created a situation. And eventually what she did, she said, hey, listen, I have this cage for you. You have to put this on. I tried that. So this is my very first experience doing this. But again, it was all sprung on me. So they got, we got up to the bed. I'm watching her.

But she's having sex with this guy right in front of me. And this guy is huge. And he is just going to town. He's doing it from behind. No, no, no. But let me ask you this. Like how is this different than, you know, your other. scenarios? Is it because there's no one there for you and you're sitting in the chair and you're

not allowed to join and you're just watching? For sure. Yeah. But like I said, I wasn't prepared at all. That was the big thing. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't prepared at all. But yeah, yeah, very different because, yeah, I'm just standing there. I was taking pictures, doing videos. That's what she wanted me to do. as a guy in that scenario, I had no control over anything. It was fully her. You know, she said, hey, listen, I'm taking him and I'm going into the hot tub. Hey, get us some drinks. Hey, we're going upstairs.

Put this on. I want you to video this and take picks. She would do, you know, she would say humiliating things to me while he was there. Again, this is a person I've never met, obviously. And the guy. and they just went to it for a very long time. And I had taken different videos. And I think for me, it was super exciting.

First of all, not having that control, not having to be, you know, doing the wife actually watching my friend do this guy, have sex in front of me, which was great. It was not even thinking about things. Just, hey, this is just fantastic watching. You know, a lot of people say it on your show. watching your wife as the porn star. In this case, it was my friend,

kind of friend with benefit, having sex in front of me. It was just like watching a live porn right in front of me. And she was, it was just, it was fantastic. So we had done that a few times. I was not involved whatsoever as far. Again, she bought this cage, put it on me. I wasn't, so there was no sex for me, obviously.

They went home together that night. That was fantastic. she did this one more time, totally different guy, big black guy, BBC. Wasn't that great? Wasn't a great experience? Why not? I was watching, taking pictures. I think he was just, I guess he wasn't into it.

I guess maybe he got a little bit of stage fright. Maybe he, I mean, he was having sex with her, but it just wasn't, he wasn't into it as much, I guess, as he thought. I don't know how many times he had done it in front of somebody. He liked her and they had done it. many times together. But I'm not sure what happened there, but I did. It was the same scenario. They were doing it in front of me.

I was taking the pictures. She put the cage on me. I was taking lots of picks also in top of the videos. And it just, I guess it wasn't as exciting. I don't know. I think she involved me maybe a little bit more the first time, you know, a little bit of that humiliation side of things. the second time she wasn't into that as much, maybe also because that guy hadn't been with her as much or had had sex with her as much as the first time.

So it just wasn't that great the second time? Did you do calkalding with anybody else besides her? I mean, I know you said you just did it two times with her. Yes. So just, yeah, one time down in Florida. I was down in Florida with my, again, it was kind of a friends with benefits situation. And we went down to Florida together. We had talked before that about her having sex with other people.

I said, you know, I'm into that. She wasn't really into women. Okay. So I said, well, that's okay. If you're going to have sex, sex with a guy in front of me, you know, this is not the first time I would have seen that. And with, you know, I saw somebody else, obviously. But she said, okay, I'm going to go pick up this guy and I'm going to, you know, have sex with him.

And again, we were not a couple. and I said, that's great. You know, I'd love to see that. And she said, oh, yeah, that'll be good. So she went and got this guy, took them back to our place. They got in the shower together. And she said, you know, come and watch me in the shower. So she would blow the guy in the shower.

They didn't end up having sex in the shower, but she would blow him for a long time. She came out. They started having sex. They asked me to come and record it. So I recorded her giving a blow job to the guy. Then she bent over. over. He did her from behind. And then she said, he said, not her, but she, he said, hey, would you like to join us? I said, sure. So I joined them. He did her from behind. She gave me a blow job. That

lasted for a little while. He finished. So that was great. But after he finished, okay, I wasn't quite finished, but she said, hey, he wants me to go back in the shower with him. And so I just was left hanging, which was okay, but it was still such a fun experience. watching her, that was much better than the second experience. And then so I watched them, they went back into the shower. And again, she started giving him a blowjob again. And that was just, I was a really good experience. The sex with them went on for a very long time because they went to shower, then together,

then they added me. And then they had, again, the blowjob back in the shower again. So that was probably, yeah, that was probably the best experience as far as, it went really smooth. It happened very fast. Okay. Again, kind of like the first time. I think that's when I'm not expecting it, I think that makes you a little bit more excited.

For sure, I could see that. Yeah. Yeah. So you're not exciting. You're not expecting something. Something happens. And then all of a sudden, hey, she's bringing this guy back. Like you said earlier, nowadays, you know, people flake out.

You never know what's going to happen. But yeah, she brought this guy back and it was it was a really good time. Great. Have you had any relationships since your ex-wife or have you just remained single? I mean, you don't really need to have relationships nowadays to get late anyway. And it sounds like you're still having fun. But have you had any long-term relationship since your last wife? I wouldn't say long-term, no.

I wouldn't. I would say like meaning more than a year, no. Yeah, no. I've had some. I was asking is of like to just to see like have you, because I know you've been swinging and doing stuff with women that you're with, that you're, you know, you're just friends with benefits. I was wondering if you brought this lifestyle to anyone else that you were dating. No, I wouldn't say so. No, I would say the longest, you know, doing things for going out with somebody maybe for six months.

I got back into school again, two and a half years after the divorce. and that schooling took me years and years to complete. And again, I would kind of fool around friends with benefits. I would say one woman I was starting to get this, get into this. She really wasn't into the cuck holding, meaning bringing another person. But the humiliation part of things, we did get heavy into that. We did lots of audio recording, her making fun of. She had just got out of her relationship with this guy who was,

extremely hung. She always said, this was my biggest boyfriend ever. He was more than 10 inches. And then she had met me and she had going, wow, you know, she would do humiliation stuff. You know, oh, you're much smaller than my ex-boyfriend. Oh, look at, you know, you're only this big my finger. Last time I had my ex-boyfriend, I had to have two hands on his giant clock. And she was talking things like that. And she would do lots of humiliation exercises with me, So if you want to call it that, comparing it to big dildos and things like that. So she was very much into it. And I think a lot of women, once they get into that type of relationship where you can start sharing things like that, they get more and more interested in.

That's what I've seen anyways. Well, what about you? I mean, you're talking about her being into it. But, like, where does this come into play? I know you touch lightly upon it with, you know, when you were sitting there being cucked the first time, there was a little humiliation going. But this is the first I'm hearing that you're into humiliation. I don't think it's very common for guys to want to be told that they're small and they're less than and blah, blah, blah. It's very specific.

But there's plenty of people that are into that. So this is something that you realize over the time that you were into as well. Because it's one thing for the girl to be into it. But like, let's hear about you being into it. Yeah, I do think that's an evolution. And I think that's kind of why, you know, we started back in 94. Really, if you think about it, I was acting as the bull. back then. The husbands were watching me have sex with the women. But I know in a lot of the episodes

you've had, this has happened too, where the guy who was the bull eventually likes being the cuck or the stag, whatever title you want to add to it. Do you have you listened to Jay's journey? Yeah, exactly. I'm like the next time you're calling up, you're going to be being really fully humiliated because he's not there yet, but he's gone to so many different places and he comes from being a bull like you, you know, same journey. Yeah, same idea. So I think I am into the humiliation. I like that.

Again, I think very similar to some of your other callers that have called in. And, you know, the hot wives talking about, you know, their husband wants them to be with someone bigger. And yet their husbands are average or larger than average to start with. and that's kind of me. I'm not huge, but I'm definitely not small. And so her making fun of it compared to some of the big ones she had is really interesting. So that happened. I'd say that happened with two or three women.

But again, nothing, I want to say long term, meaning more than a year. Okay. So like, what do you like to be, like, humiliated and stuff? And like, like, what do you like for them to say? Is it a size thing? You like to be inferior? What do you think that's all about? Yeah, I think it is.

I think it is a size thing. And I do think people have mentioned this in the past. I think when you have a profession or something where you're always in control or you're the top person. And then somebody comes along and says, hey, you know, you're not the best or you're not the biggest or this person was better at that. it does kind of humble you and I think I kind I kind of like that you know like I said before I can do this and this and this as far as traveling or doing what I feel like doing essentially even with my my current job I mean I'm talking to you in the middle of the day I can organize that anyhow any way I like right so I think it is something to do with a person saying to you hey you know you're not always the

top person there's people who that are better you in in this than you. You may be the top person in your field or doing your your job, what you do, or there's, you know, education wise, you may be the top of the top. But listen, when you get in bed, you know, I've had this guy who's 10 and a half inches and you're just not quite measuring up. So the humiliation, it is in your face, okay? It's a reality.

It is the truth, what she's saying. Listen, I'm not going to be 10.5. That's just the way it is. And I don't know. For me, audio, and again, this is why I'm listening to your podcast too, right? Anybody who's listened, the audio thing for me is just as big as the video thing. Yeah, I can get really turned on. By what you hear.

Yeah, by a woman, yeah, by what I hear, by a woman saying, hey, you know, take your small cock and bend me over and, you know, do me in the ass. Just her saying that. I'm going to get hard right away. And want to do her in the ass. And yeah, I think the audio side of things, and that's what I said about the one person, she was, you know, doing the humiliation thing. And we would always audio.

We would never video any of that. We would always audio tape it and then listen back in bed. And that would turn us both on, you know, her going through her ex-partners, talking about experiences with them, how big they were. That turned me on. That turned her on. And then we had, you know, we had really good sex after. to that. Yeah. You know, and listen, when I talk to Dr. David Lay, I don't know if you listen to his

episode. He wrote, it's something like, yeah, insatiable wives. And he talked about how, I own it. Yeah, okay, there you go. And he talked very specifically about, like, people being into what they're into sexually and how he doesn't believe in sex addiction. What he believes it is, is, and we're all sort of born with it or not, or our degree of it is how we come into this world. And he talked about how, like, you know how some people like, you know, going, on roller coasters and that's the way they get off. They're like adrenaline junkies. It's just like, you know, some people need that in sex, right?

Like everyone needs different levels of stuff to make them feel things, right? And some people need more stuff to make them feel things. And I think sometimes when you do a lot of stuff like you did, people like you, like that girl Casey that used to be on my show, she kept having to push the envelope, right? Because she's kind of been there, done that, gang bangs and whatever. So now what gets you off, right? Like that becomes kind of normal. So you got to sometimes keep.

pushing things, right, to feel that adrenaline rush that you want to feel. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as you don't cross any kind of weird boundaries. But it makes sense that for you, someone who's kind of really experienced everything. So now what gets you off? Like maybe a little humiliation. Why not at that? You know what I mean? It's like something new, right? It gets you fucking horny. You kind of done all the rest of the stuff. So I think it makes sense that you would naturally maybe get into, open up yourself to other things, right? Yeah, for sure, for sure. It's definitely part of that evolution. Yeah. And yeah, yeah, you're right. You do want to go from something, you know, once you have, you mentioned it a little bit earlier. You know, once you do have a threesome, a lot of couples have that threesome with the extra female female male male female threesome. Then sometimes you want to move it into, you know, a full swap or a soft swap into a full swap. And yeah, I am at that point where I have experienced at all. And I do, I think, think the humiliation is a really interesting thing because you're involving the partner that

you care for and you enjoy and yet they're saying, you know, these negative things. But in reality, yeah, that's part of the turn on is that they're saying, hey, this is what I've done in the past, which that excites me too. I like, I do like hearing a woman talk about her past. A lot of guys hate that. That's not me. I think so. I think honestly, I think some guys like, yeah. You know, more guys are into that than they know. I think back, a lot of guys always ask me about other partners. And I always thought they were asking out of jealousy. I think that they were asking as a fucking turn-on.

You know what I mean? But they just didn't cop to it. I think people have these kinds of things, but they're so like, they're so bizarre. And they think that they shouldn't be normal that everyone keeps it to themselves, you know? Because it's so opposite of what you would think. Yeah, that's true. Most guys would never want to hear. But there's a lot of guys actually that do want to hear about it.

And it is a turn-off. Yeah, very true. I did read that book from Dr. Lay. Yeah. And it's, it is. It's a good book, really interesting, the historical side of things. And really, this has been happening for hundreds and hundreds of years. I know he was going into some historical figure, which I had never heard about.

Wait, let me ask you this. Like, where are you at now? What are you doing now? Do you still go to swinger clubs? Do you still hit up people on apps? Like, are you, like, currently doing what you were doing back in the day in the 90s, but on apps? now or are you like, you know, still with those booty calls? Like, what's you, what's you doing now? Like, what's your deal now? No. So I am, I am going out with somebody. It has been, yeah,

it's been a while. It's not a extreme amount of time. She is into this. So she, she is into the humiliation part of things. We've talked about getting other people. She's definitely not into women. That's for sure. In fact, that was one of the first things she said to me when we started dating. She said, hey, if you ever want to get anybody else involved with us, this was probably after two or three months. I haven't been going out with her for that long. But anyways, she said after two or three months, hey, if you want to add a third party with us any time, I'm not into that. I'm not interested in that. And I said, she says, I don't want to add another female. It's just me and you. And I said, well, what about adding another guy? She said, well, maybe in time. So she did kind of,

you know, put her hand essentially that, hey, maybe she would be interested in a three-way with another guy in the future. Okay. So that's kind of where I'm at right now.

That's not bad. Listen, you've kind of been there, done that. You really get off on the humiliation thing. You got that audio. You know,

you're turned on by what you hear. She gives you that. She might be open to being with other people over time, you know, a guy, which you love,

right? She could cuck you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you kind of been there, done that. And you've had a lot of experiences.

So you're not dating her for a while. So you're not pushing her, which is always good, right? Like in her time, maybe she'll come around. Like she's just, at least she knows, like,

listen, she knows what you're into. It didn't scare her off. She's still there. And she sounds like she's probably open and just might take some time, you know. But,

you know, thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. I don't, I'm sure you have a lot more stories to talk about, but I got to wrap it up. If you want to, you know my deal,

if you listen to my show, go, like, you know, I'll give you free access to my Patreon if you want to send anonymous picks. Some people are like, why don't you ask the guys? Like, most of the time when girls are sending me in picks are sending picks of their body, you know. Some guys send in picks, anonymous picks if they're, you know, like you can send me an anonymous pick. Sure. I'm more so asked for the women.

But on Discord, I'll give you free access to my Discord. I mean, that's where people could post whatever they want over there. I don't get involved. I'm not posting it. But I'll give you free access. And my Discord's super fun. I don't know if you've ever been in there. But once you get in, you'll be like, whoa, what the fuck's going on here?

here because there's a lot of stuff going on there. There's a lot of stuff going on there. It's like, you know, and it's fun. And it's because I curate everybody because nobody could get in there. You can't find it. You know, it is free, but I give, I give access to people. I grant the access. So it's a really great community of really cool people over there. I'll give you free access over there. So when your episode airs, you could go in there and post whatever you want. Okay. So, so Will, thanks so much for calling in. You're a good storyteller. So thanks for calling in and sharing your story. Okay, thanks a lot, Kathy. Thank you.

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and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story.

Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really

short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be.

It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord.

So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.