Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 125 - Ex Co-host Tommy is Divorced and has No Game

Episode Date: May 9, 2016

Ex co-host Tommy recently got divorced and unfortunately he totally lost his game. He calls in to discuss how the divorce took a toll on his self esteem, what he's been doing since to make him feel better about himself, why he thinks he can't get chicks anymore and a whole lot more. Tune in to find out why and how divorce can totally ruin a guy's self esteem plus hear tips on how he can eventually get it back. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You remain anonymous. So if you have a problem that you need help with or a secret life that you want to talk about, send me an email at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Today, I have an in-person guest who people know as Tommy, my old co-host, don't and people who don't have, just started listening to this show. I started out by podcasts with a co-host, and that's probably why you hear on the intro. The good old days. Yeah, it was great.

Yeah, when you had, you had 10 times more listeners because I was on. I did not have 10 times more listeners. I think the show was a little bit different. I don't think it's better or worse. I loved having you. It wasn't better. It was different, but I loved having you on. I thought you were great.

It was very hard to fire you and get used to being on the show without you, but now I'm so much happier without you. I would never have you back on, but only because you were irritating to schedule. And I also just like talking to people about myself and not being interrupted. And you know what? People liked when I was on the show because I did interrupt you. Of course. And I brought a soothing voice. Your voice, people complimented your voice.

Not this growing thing that happens all day long. People like my voice too, but this is... But there's too much of it. No, it isn't, Tommy. I'm the game to you yet. Already I can't. See, Kathy's actually getting very tense right now. Tommy, just so you know, yesterday Tommy talked all about how he would like to

bang me when I come over and do the podcast. Yeah, I think it would relax me. And just so you know, guys, this is the way not to get a girl to fuck you, okay? Because does he actually think that if you root, to me like that that I'm going to get horny for you there? Zero chance. Listen, I know all the buttons to push. No, you don't.

But that's what we're going to talk about, actually. We're going to, yeah, you know them, but you just don't have it in you to push them anymore because what we're going to explain today is I'm actually new to, I'm back in the game. Yeah, Tommy got divorced. We have the divorce podcast and that's, we cannot reveal what happened in your divorce because I've been talking about it and talking about how we're going to do that episode. We already taped it. We taped it.

It's great story. Anybody who's been in matrimonial court understands that until the ink is dried and the checks have been written, we can't, you know, you can't do anything stupid that might jeopardize, you know, the deal. Right. So that's out there. But what we're going to do now, forget about the story. You did get divorced. We're not going to talk about specifics of that because it's so good. And like I said, we already have like an hour and a half podcast taped.

And that will be that will air the minute you have signed those divorce papers, right? Yes. So to give you, well, we don't really give dates and times, you know, because things get aired and don't get aired. But we'll just say in fantasy land, it's going to probably be three weeks. Okay, great. So you'll probably get the story on how Tommy got divorced. Like I said, Tommy was my old co-hus. He's back on.

To talk about, to me, I think it's a really good topic because I've seen this happen before. and I've known Tommy through a lot of his incarnations. I met you when how many years ago, maybe 20 years ago, 15 years ago? A lot of years ago. And when I met him, he was a player, like the biggest player around. I had a good game. I had a good game.

It was polished. It was tight. We did a podcast one. Can I re-air that? I had to take it down because your wife got mad about it. Yeah. Can I ever read air that one? We could after that.

Okay, great. And we did a podcast about how to get a girl to bang. you who absolutely would never fucking bang you because that's what the deal was between me and you. Like I was like never ever. I was completely not interested in you. But over a year of you working me with your game, you got me in the sack. And you got me in the sack for like eight years. You were like the best booty call I ever had, right?

Chinese water torture. You just keep doing a little bit. Whatever. We're not going to get into that because we already did that podcast and I'll re-air it. So I call it. But this is one I want to talk about. Okay. Because I've seen this happen to many guys.

And like the new incarnation of Tommy is divorced Tommy. And divorce Tommy is so sad. Like every other guy that kids were. You were like a sad. So I explained. Sad person. Okay. So I explained it to, you know, all my married buddies who are all like, you know,

you know, when you're married, everyone's like, oh, man, if I was single, I'd be running girls in and out all night. The party wouldn't stop. But you don't understand. You know, that was a while ago. Now you're 40. Okay. Well, you're 40.

Well, I'm 40. But, you know, a lot of my friends are the same. age. And A, you can't party every night. That's one thing. Two, you, like, what was that damn movie? Hall Pass. The movie Hall Pass. And so it's so true because you keep thinking you have all this game and everything, but stuff has changed. The whole, I mean, when I was single, there was no Tinder. Right, but that's, like, listen, you could get back in the game, okay? That just makes things easier and it just ups your numbers, okay? Because it is a dating and screwing is all a numbers game, really.

So that, those kind of things only help. If you're, like, not too old to follow the trends and stay on with tech, stay up to, you know, to part with what's going on in technology. Yes. Yes. Yes. And no. The no part is, if you've never done it before, there's the whole, all right, so I went

on it. Okay. Should we talk about that part? Yeah. So I went on Tinder and I went on Bumble. Okay. Bumble. I've never even heard of Bumble.

Okay, so Bumble, it's more geared towards women. So what happens is just like Tinder, whatever, if you have a match, that's great. Now, you can't text the girl. The girl has 24 hours to message you. Mm-hmm. Okay. So it puts the control in the woman to stop like stalkers and all this bullshit and everything, which I think is great.

But if she doesn't send you a message within 24 hours, hours, it disappears. Oh. So it's kind of cool from a guy standpoint, like, okay, great, I made a match. And she sent me a message. So it's good for her. It gives her the protection of psychos and whatever. And, but it's good for the guy because it gives you a little bit of confidence because

now you're, you're not like taking a stab in the dark. You're like, here we made a match. She messaged me. So she's second, you know, it's almost like a second. virtual date and then you know then you go from there the quality of women on bumble is like first class and tinder is in like the jump seat in the back well that's because i think tinder isn't tinder more of like oh i'm drunk and horny right now i'm just so over and bang you that's what i thought when i logged on but like what i don't understand that's what the site was made for right

A hookup site. I think it was like, wasn't it made after like Grindrinder? Yeah. You know, because that was that gay app was so successful. And then I think a lot of people do get laid from Tinder though. Yeah, but. Because if you have to do Tinder, Tommy, at 2 o'clock in the morning when the girls are drunk. Yeah, I'm in bed at 2 o'clock in the morning.

You can't do it at 4 p.m. Yeah. Unless you live in like a place like a Florida. So the thing with Tinder is if you read every, this is my whole thing. Every girl that goes on there writes this whole profile, this and that. And their last line is, I'm not here for hookups. Then what the fuck are you on Grindr? I mean, on Tinder.

Because girls are there because that's where guys are. Okay, that's what it is. And they're probably not looking for hookups. But if you get them at 2 o'clock in the morning, they're drunk and they'll probably hook up with you. That's all. Somebody made a comment recently on my podcast and said, you know, you always advocate drinking.

And I'm like, no, I don't. I don't even drink. And she's like, yes, you always talk about how, oh, just gives in. She's kind of right. Like, Carrie, I'm telling you go on Tinder late at night because girls are drunk and you can take advantage of them. It's probably bad. Is that bad of me to say?

That's bad advice. Okay. But the thing with that is, all right, so going back, where we said it's like good and bad with new technology, more girls, more people, whatever, just. But when you're someone like myself that was doing it before that came around, you have to adjust your game to, okay, I made the match. What do I say? Oh, do you live in?

I'm going to just, I'm going to out you here now, okay? because before you think that this is like new after you got divorced, okay? This is nothing to you with you being divorced. I just think you're a bad online person because before you got married. I went on match. I went on match. And what happened when you went on match? I had to have you.

Yes. I had Kathy manage my match profile. He didn't, because I'm going to tell you why. Because Tommy's very sensitive and Tommy was very freaked out by the fact that he would like email girls. And this, I'm going to say this because it's. very, I think a lot of people feel this way and it's very important because I have the total opposite take that you were very freaked out when you would email Hawk Girls and they wouldn't

write you back and you would take it so super personal. Like it was it was so getting on your nerves like and you were so sensitive to it that you had to pass it on to me because you can take it because I'm like, who cares? Like I think it's personal if you go on a date with them and they don't call you after but who cares from a flat picture. So when before I did obviously before we were doing this podcast I was talking to Kathy. And I did go on some dates. So the whole online thing is just garbage. But like I actually went on physical dates.

So what you probably want to hear is at 40 going on the date, you know? No, I want to talk about a little bit deeper than that because I just want to read a text that prompted me. Like I just think that like I started off this conversation with like you are so sad now that you got divorced and like how I've seen a lot of other men go through this. So and I think it's a little bit deeper than just the dating. And I know that you think that you still have your game, but it's like online dating that's wrong. But I know from somebody who's been out. I'm the first to admit that I don't have the game right now. Right.

But I think that you don't have the game right now because there's this deeper thing that happens when men get divorced. And I've seen it with all my guys. You're broken a little bit. You're like a dickless man. You are. Like your dick was chopped off. Like for sure.

I 100% agree with you. And that's exactly what I felt. I didn't say my dick. I felt my book. balls got chopped off. Yeah, I say, you say balls, same shit,

right. You want to know what it is. It's first the breakup part. You know, that hurts everybody. But the actual whole process with attorneys and courts. And then there's taking your money.

And then you as a guy, so in my divorce, you know, we're not going to get into the specifics of it, but I wasn't at fault. She was at fault. She did something stupid. So,

of course, yes, I was hurt. Absolutely by that. but on the other side, in a state like New York, it's called no fault. So I could have been the biggest pig sleeping with every woman

and it would have been the same amount of judgment that it was, even though I wasn't at fault. Right, meaning like you're getting fucked royally in your divorce regardless of whether you were the wrong or were in the wrong or the wrong. Correct.

It's like the breadwinner. So even though, like, I was emotionally hurt. I went to court and because I was the breadwinner, I got financially fucked. Right. So it's like being kicked when you're down. It's like just when you think things can't get worse,

now you're being raped of all your money and your hard earned cash and like all that stuff. And I think that I have to say there's only a couple areas where men have it worse than women. Okay. I think most of the time. Divorce court in New York City is that one. And baldness. And you're baldness. And you're bald and you got divorced.

You're like, you're bald, fat, divorced and fucked. I think there's only two areas where I'm just kind of like, oh, well, oh well, like welcome to the unfair world of women, you know, whereas, and I do think that men have it really, it's really unfair what happens to men in divorce and with children a lot of the times compared to women. So I think that, because I've, like I said, I have seen men get divorced and they are at their low. It's like they're like dickless men. And I got to tell you, as a woman who is single and looking to mingle sometimes,

right or any woman like there's nothing more unattractive than a dickless ballless man i mean i find men after they get divorced like so unattractive right and it's not because like you're broken me to say it's like everything that you that made you a man that men sort of hold on to like it goes out the window yeah right and and it's like well actually it doesn't go out the window it goes onto a piece of paper and it's it's handed to attorneys right and i've had a lot and you've had a lot of time in the process where you've called me up drunk. I'm always the person you call out drunk to talk about your feeling. Because I know there's no recourse from that.

No, and you know that I'm good. Like, this is why I do my podcast because I'm the type of person you like to talk to when you need advice, right? You always were, I was always that person for you. You've called me up very upset, begging me to have sex with you. And like, one day I was like, listen, I'm going to do better than have sex with you. I'm going to, like, help you figure out how to get your fucking dick back so you could go fuck a lot of girls.

Like, that's what I want to see for you. You don't need to bang me. You need to get your. game back. You know what you mean? It's like I'm not going to give you fish. I'm going to teach you how to fish. That's the kind of friend that I am. Yeah, but it's your stank fish when I put it on my body that attracts the other stankfish around me. That's what Tommy was trying to tell me. Like every time I banged you. So in the 20 years that I've known her, okay, if I ever had a drought, you know, when I was single, you know, just play in the field. And if I was in a drought,

I'd be like, ah, fuck. And I would just call up Kathy and had a good session. And then I would just come home and then all of a sudden, boom, I'd be back on my game again. You know, I have to say, there is a sex smell. I remember sleeping over your house. No, this is right after I quit drinking and I'd walk for miles on end because I had no place to go. So I'd sleep with you when you lived all the way down in Battery Park. And then I'd walk all the way home up like from Battery Park to like midtown, right?

It would take me two hours. And what I would do, like one time I didn't take a shower after I left and we had had sex in the morning. Like, you know, and I have to say as I was walking home for that hour, like guys were chasing after me. I really felt like they smelled the sex. I 100% agree. So I would never shower after I slept with you anymore just to see. And like clockwork, men would be like literally after. It didn't matter how bad I looked, makeup streaming down my face, like doing the walk of shame.

If you don't shower, like it's like there's some sort of pheromone maybe that goes on. So I think like what that's why maybe one piece of ass, you know, then attracts more pieces of ass. It's like a jump start on a car. Right. But, you know, Tommy sent me a text, okay, last night. I don't know. You were out by yourself. First of all, he was like, I was here.

No, you were like, I'm at Hakasan eating alone. Oh, that was two nights ago. Okay. You're like, I'm at Hakkisan by myself eating duck. Yeah. The Peking duck there is amazing. Okay, but you were by yourself. It's so lonely.

then you're like, if I had a girlfriend, she would be cheating on me with me 13 years ago. Isn't that amazing? I thought that was the saddest text I ever got, but the funniest and the most real. And that's when I was like, we need to do a podcast about this sort of state that men go get into when they are divorced. I think you need to come out of it and you can come out of it. I will. I think some men will never. Let me just finish one second.

Some men will never come out of it, but they need to. And this is what I want people to, what, what men will. men to take from this. It's like they're in this place and they feel like this. Like don't give up because like you could get your game back and your dick back and your balls back and get, you know, and whether it's screwing five women or 50 women or going getting a new relationship, whatever it is, being attractive to women again and feeling whole again.

It's very important, you know, for that to happen. So I did make the first steps of no more lonely dinners. No more lonely dinners. But they treat me. I think they treat me so well there because they feel sorry for me. I mean, they basically wait on me hand and foot. But I have to say, though, now that I have a baby and I'm only five months into it, like when I have a babysitter and I go eat alone, it is like heaven for me because I'm just like zoned out and I like that time alone.

I do like to eat dinner once in a while, most times alone because of the business that I'm in. Okay, but what about this whole thing so I want to be cheating on me with me? Okay, so let me get to that. But I made first step on getting it everything back. And we never plug any businesses, and I have no skin in the game with this business. I just want to say, so I canceled my super crazy expensive gym membership that I never went to. And I went and joined a new gym that just opened up my neighborhood called Temple. And it's really cool.

There's no one there, obviously, at one o'clock in the afternoon. I hired a trainer. I invested a few thousand dollars in like 30 training sessions. Made the commitment of three days and week. And, you know, I went today. It was hard. It hurts. But I feel getting back into shape is the first way to get.

Totally. I want, yeah. And making yourself look like, because sometimes what happens with a lot of people, men and women is that the way you feel on the inside starts to reflect on the outside. And you're 100% right. You know, I felt like, listen, I put on probably since the actual action happened a year ago,

I probably put on about 30 pounds. And you're always someone that goes back and forth of being fat, Tommy. I put on 30 pounds of just, not even, it was just stress and like wine and late night dining weight. You know what I mean? I don't eat junk food. I don't smoke, but I drink a lot. of wine and I drink late and then I get hungry three in the morning and then I eat and because I

was depressed but now I'm trying to break that chain now getting back to the Hakisan comment about cheating you know if I was dating somebody right now she'd be cheating on because when about 13 years ago 14 years ago when I was at like the peak of my game I was sleeping with so many women that were married to like 42-year-old banker dudes that were like out of shape and they were miserable about it, you know? So there was a couple sitting next to me. At Hakasatat the other night. At Hakasat that night.

And the girl was gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. And you know, the guy was a heavy hitter, had on probably $35,000 watch. You know what I mean? Beautiful bottle of wine on the table. And the two of them were sitting there. on their phones. Right. Like they, you know,

a bottle of probably opus one, $400 on the table and, you know, all this fantastic food. And the restaurant was popping. And like I said, she looked fantastic. Cleavage was showing. She had like leather pants on.

I mean, first class ass. And they both had their head buried in their phone. Right. But this is the thing with that. And that's what I thought. I said, she'd be texting me, me 13 years ago.

Like, dinner's almost over. Can I come by your house? Right, you would triple double dip in a day. I know that. Back in the day, yeah. Yeah, I remember. And it wasn't like it was, and I said this before on the podcast, it wasn't like I was planning on it, whatever.

So I would wake up with someone that slept over that night. You'd screw them in the morning. I'd screw them in the morning. I love morning sex. It's my favorite thing. The most guys do, I think. Yeah. So then they would leave.

Then I would go out or whatever. And then if I would go out to lunch with somebody and they were on break from work and never know. Come back to my place, go to their place. Screw, they go. Whatever, I go home. I shower and I'm out for the night. And then that night I would meet another girl. No, I know.

Yeah. Yeah, I have a guy on my podcast now who's like you. And he's divorced. And he's like, some men are like dickless after they get divorced. And he's like the opposite. He's just like a rampant crazy womanizer insane. Even at 50. And he's 50.

So, but I think that that's the, they say, what's that saying? My therapist used to say it's like the different side of the same coin, right? It's like, two sides of the same coin. Two sides of the same coin. Right. Well, I had a friend who actually got divorced and he did that. He went on like a rabid dog run. And, uh, and he would be like, oh, man, life is.

great now. I'm banging this one. I'm banging this one. I think it was just his way of coping with his pain. And he felt that he had to tell everybody how great it was. Well, it's because that's feeding their ego somehow, even though ultimately at the end will never make them feel any better, just like, you know, right? But it temporarily, that's what they think is going to make them better.

So my balls and my dick were crushed so much that I even accepted it. And I told people, I said, listen, there's no ego here. You know what I mean? I think the difference between the womanizers that turn into womenizers after they get divorced and someone like you who doesn't is I think and tell me if I'm wrong, okay, because I know with doctor guy, the reason why he's doing this now is because he never got girls in high school. Like he never had your game. You had games since high school.

Yeah, I did all right. Yeah. Day one, you were that guy, right? But there are a lot of guys that don't reach their prime until way later. Yeah. And if they get money, maybe through their marriage, and all of a sudden. and they're divorced and they have this cash and they realize they could get young girls they go on a rampage that so was your friend who went on the rampage was he a player before

or was he kind of like a loser he was like a he started like in college right later in the game i'm i explain people i'm like the ron germy syndrome i started early and now i'm fucking fat and disgusting looking i don't care you know disgusting looking you're not fat you've always been kind of chuggy no well you're beefy i'm built yeah You have a stocky body to begin with, right? And you always gain and lose weight in your belly. Sometimes you look like nine months pregnant. Sometimes you look four months pregnant.

Stand up. I'll tell you how many months pregnant. Dude, I'm, I got twins right now. Okay, let me see. Tommy's standing up. I'm just going to tell you how pregnant he looks. No, hold it the shirt. Oh, yeah, you're giving birth.

Like, you're later today. Your water may break. My water might break during the podcast. But not twins. I would say there's only one baby. Like a big one. one regular no one regular size but i've seen you bigger dude i'm sorry really absolutely that actually makes me feel a little better yeah this is where the dickless loser part comes into play that you don't even

start i think what happens with men is they feel so bad about themselves they don't even see the truth you're like what you just said about yourself is so lame i'm a disgusting fat well it's it's like it's like so no but i'm like because you don't you look the same i know it's like no but it's you know how you know the guy goes on the rant to bang all these girls to boast, oh, I'm on top of my game, makes them feel better. You know, what do you call it? Like, self-shaming a little bit kind of is like my coping mechanism. Yeah, it's unattractive.

Yeah, you got to stop that. Both things are unattractive. Yeah, 100%. It's this, listen, you think that I'm not. I'm saying, hey, look at my fat ass. But the fact that you say it out loud, when people sort of are self-deprecating like that, there's truth to it. And that means that on some level, that's how you feel about yourself.

And that's what you bring to a date. That's why you have no game. And that's what we need to change. Do you understand? Because I know you, like I said, through all of your incarnations. Okay. And this is no different than any other guy. Most likely you haven't changed as much as you think you have.

It's how you feel about yourself that's changed. Well, the reason, yes, probably this wasn't as big as a change. It seems, I don't know, it seems more intense as you get older. You know what I mean? Listen, I think it's very difficult. You're a very sensitive person. You're intense, you right? I'm intense.

You're a work hard, playhard guy, right? Very intense. But you have a lot of passion and you have a lot. So you know, so you feel things a lot, right? Yes. And so I think when you fail at something,

because I think getting married, I always knew you for a very long time. And as much as Tommy fucked a lot of girls, he always had a girlfriend. He always had this part of himself that really wanted to be, quote, unquote, normal. Okay?

I think it was very important for you to get married, and have kids, like you and have that house. Like, you really had that fantasy and there's nothing wrong with that. And I waited a long time for it. Yeah, and you really did it when you were ready. And I think you, I know, you really wanted to do it right. You gave up the girls. Yep.

I mean, I changed my whole, I changed my whole life for my ex-wife. Yeah. And I think that's why it made such an impact because I got, yes, you know, they say, oh, you got to get everything out of your system. I realistically feel that I got a lot of, I got it out of my system. and I fully committed and, you know, started to have a family really just focused on work and did that. Right. So this.

So then when the rug was pulled from underneath you, you're like, fuck. Devastating. Yeah. Because that's everything that you had ever wanted and you had it. And then now you don't have it. And then you're back to this other person. But this is like, I once gave my friend a man makeover who was in the same position as you. Like, you know, and he spent, you know, because like you say, it's very important to get like you're outside looking good and get back.

and shape and all these things and then you start to feel better about yourself i don't personally think i don't know tommy because like you keep saying and i was going to say this before like you have tried since you're divorced to get me in the sack and you've been successful i've just called you up and said hey will you sleep with me and you'll say no yeah exactly no but that's a whole that was my point but we have gone out of dinner my whole point is that you keep saying like you don't like have the game i don't personally think that you will ever have that game again. I think that when you get a little bit of, it's too much energy. Do you understand? You have a kid who now when you have him, you have him alone. So it's a lot more work. I know I'm a

single mom. So you're like a single dad when you have, you have another business. You open up a restaurant that's super successful. You have a bar. You're older, right? So I don't think you have the energy for all that game. Because that's a full time job. Well, while eating alone, you know, you think about these things. And I could never go back to, you know, double-dipping, triple-dipping, having this girl, having that girl. I really don't have the energy. And, you know, what I mean. What I would like to have is maybe, you know, two girlfriends or something or three-girlfriends, but like arrangements. Like, you know, because you know in New York City, you meet someone that is older in their 40s and older than that are not married, it's because either they're divorced or if they've never

been married, it's because they're career-oriented. So they work hard, and when they have their little time to have fun, they want to have fun. But they're not looking for you to, like, be their end all, be all. Yeah, you know. So you want one of those? For now. But ultimately, you know, you want something to be around. And I'm just going to tell you.

Sundays get lonely, baby. Sundays get real lonely. I know. That's when you call me, and I'm like, no fucking way, because you know how to push my buttons. We all, like, I, you, because you used to do that all the time, right? And I think most women have the same buttons that I do. You have to put in a little work, even if it's just straight up sex and it's not even

going to be anything. Like, you know, even just for a booty call, like women like to be treated a certain way that makes them horny, even if it's, like, I said, not someone that they like, because I don't have feelings for you. But I don't think that you have it, because you know what to do with me and you've had me out of dinner, but you don't have it in you to do it. I think what you need to do is get out there. and meet a girl that you really like,

because then it will come naturally. You don't have it in you to even play the game that you know. You know it so well. So I did go on a date. I went a couple dates, but I actually met somebody by chance who I actually have known for a long time. Great.

Very attractive, very attractive. Mm-hmm. And it was kind of in passing, and I said, you know, come to my new restaurant and check it out, you know, stop by for, have a drink, you know. Yeah. She came by, had a drink.

We sat at the bar. She came toward closing time, so the restaurant was empty. You know, we sat in the back, had a little food, had a little wine, we relaxed, we had a little more wine.

You know, it was very comfortable. I got to tell you, I really liked her. And, you know, she leaned over, we started making out, and, you know, but we were in the back.

So it wasn't like, Like we were in my restaurant and employees were looking. It was very secluded. And then we went up to the bar. We had a little nightcap. I walked her home because she only lived not too far from the new place. And the whole way home, she's like holding my hand. And it was really nice.

And made out with her for a good session out in front. I put her in her building. Goodbye. You know, quickly she texts me missing you or ready, this type of stuff. And I got that feeling, you know, got that feeling. Yeah, of excitement. That, like, that euphoric feeling. Yeah.

And it was exciting. And then the texting happened every day and multiple times. And I kind of held back a little bit and more went on the respond to her texts. Oh, God. See, that's the insecure. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's an insecure way to go as a man. Of course.

But then we went on another date. Uh-huh. the same thing. That's the dickless way to go. Thank you. All right. I'm just going to call this podcast Tommy the dickless divorce. I'm sorry.

Go on. So then the next dinner we went out, amazing time making out, blah, blah, blah. Brought her to her apartment. She went up, you know.

And then the third date, we did dinner, but it was kind of on the fly and, you know, messing around, but she had to go somewhere to an event. And that was that. Oh, I'm going to be out of town.

I'll be back like Tuesday. So on Tuesday, I text her. Hey, hope your trip was great. Can't wait to see you. Did you guys have sex yet? No. Okay. Let me know when you're free for dinner.

Any bases or just first base? Just first base. Okay. Let me know when you're free from dinner. Nothing. Okay. And then that was like Tuesday. then Wednesday I'm like do I text again no Thursday yesterday I was like all right I was like

hey stranger just checking in seeing if you're good let me know if you're available for dinner and now still nothing oh my god you might be dumbed but we have to figure out why you got dumb yeah it might be another guy let me ask you this I need some backstory on her because you're saying you're looking for this older you know woman I don't I don't want to Is she? No, I want to talk about her specific. How old is she? You're going to laugh at me. A 23? A little older. It's 26? No, just almost 30. We'll just say almost 30. Okay, well, you might have been too

nice to her. We always know that girls in your 20s, you got to treat them like shit. You can't be like, you can't be dickless with them. No. A 40-something girl might be desperate. It might take you at your lowest point of your life, but not no hot 20-6-year-old. Older women love me because I'm an old school. I open the door. Totally. You know how to take care of a little. Yeah. When she's in your presence. When she's in my presence. Yeah, you might be fucking her sister behind her back. When she leaves, but when she...

I wish I, that was the old me. You act as if you're not. I know. It's true. So what I'm going to do right now is I wrote, you know, I want to read you what I wrote on my profile for these Tinder things. Wait, can we just finish the story about the girl? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then we'll get to your profile. Because this is all interesting stuff I think for guys, right? Because I think guys have been in the situation where they're on a couple dates with a girl. They think everything's pretty cool, right? And then they just never hear from the girl, right? Yep. And if they don't have a girlfriend, because I love one, like, you know, I think that's why it's really helpful to have a girl that's your friend

or like when I need to know about guys to have a guy that's your friend because you could just like kind of get to know. Women attract women. Okay, but that's not the point. I'm talking about like when you need advice of like what the hell's going on in a woman's head in this kind of situation, right? Obviously, you would always call me about this one and the dude at the gym. Right.

I would help my guy friends with their girls. Quarterway in my ass guy or whatever his name was in. Halfway in guy. Just you know, he was a dickless divorcee. But he got halfway in. Only halfway. Come on. Fucker you have a way.

Read that chapter. It's killer and it's true. And he was he was like a half a man like literally. And that was after divorce. He was like never to be the same person. That's why he only went halfway in. Yeah, for real. But no.

So with this girl, okay? like how old was she 29? Well just say she's yeah just about 29 30 Yes okay and did you like for those three dates right the last date how did it end Um it kind of ended see that's funny that you say that So the last date she was a little bit more pulled back So what I was thinking maybe she met either she either met somebody else or she got

back together with who she was with before, like before we had that little niche in time. And this isn't anything long. This was a, you know, we saw each other three, four times in a week and a half. It was like hot and heavy quick. Right. No, but that's the way it should be. Yeah. Just get to it and then figure out whether you're like the one and if not move on.

I think it's totally fine that she just blew you off if she wanted to after three days. She never had sex with you. She doesn't really owe you any explanation. I'm just trying to figure out because sometimes it helps. helps to know like how come someone just disappears, you know? But sometimes you don't know. It could be like you said, she got back with somebody. Like unless you could pick apart what happened like, you know, on that last date.

I don't know. But you said you were holding back like she might have been. No, no, no, no, no. I was only holding, you know, I wasn't like texting her obsessively. I wish I would have looked through the text that you had with her like before this and done my homework and then been able to critique you because sometimes there's things that people do that they don't know. Okay, that they don't know what they do.

Because now your ratings and your. views are going to go through the roof that I'm back. You're not bad. You're on for this point. I'm back. I wanted you on just the other day. This was the other thing I wanted to do in this podcast. We do it at the end. I wanted your take on a couple calls that I had that I wish you were on. There was a girl recently named

Pukahontas. She was called in because she felt like she could not, she only wanted to date white guys. Her last boyfriend was black and dumped her because she was fat actually. She gained weight while she was with him. And then he dumped her and then told her it was because she was fat. And then now she's very anti-black men and she's only into white guys, but she

feels that white guys would never like her because she's, I mean, they literally tell her to her face like, no offense, but I don't like black women. And I tried to get deep and I'm like, Tommy loved Italian man. Yeah, and he loved Italian men love black women. Yeah, yeah. And then I tried to get you on the phone and you weren't available. Then I tried to do a podcast with her and then she couldn't, you know, so I wound up airing it. And I was just like, wanted you to talk to her. Like there's been a couple times where I'm like, oh, this would have been a good call for Tommy. Most of the time I like to the calls by myself. But there have been a couple times where I think like that girl didn't want me to probe her deeply like I did.

She would have been just happy to talk about like sort of dating, the black and white thing. The superficial stuff. Yeah, but it was interesting. And a lot of people chimed in on that podcast too. And so I think that like that's what you brought to the table. But anyway, back to you because I always like to keep my podcast very personal. Okay. Let's back to your dickless loser life.

Oh. No. So this is what it is Tommy. Like you have to figure out. really what you're what you really want because I think sometimes what happens when people are like in a time where they're kind of confused or going through times they don't know what they want right so then they go out and they're just sending out all these kind of mixed messages right 100% agree with you and then you get back mixed messages you know you get back people that are just as confused as you are

because like a chock's like what would you know like you I've done therapy and all that so what I took what I'm taking from it you know my take on it is I have to rebuild myself. Okay? So right now I have to just start from the ground up and, you know, thank God that my businesses are doing well. You know what I mean? I'm not someone like, oh, fuck, I got divorced.

I lost my job. You know what I mean? So that, the fortunate aspect about it, it's going to allow me to rebuild myself, meaning get back into shape. I'm not talking about being ripped, but just get back into. a routine where I'm going to the gym and stuff like that. I start feeling a little bit better about myself, you know, not waking up in the morning, you know, like, oh, fuck, you know,

and get those things under control. I personally feel that now this starts to come, then the other will follow. Because you're right. When I would go out there, you know, now, like, I'm just like, I'm running through the woods without a flashlight. Like I'll take a little lady that just wants to bang and then I don't want, I want two girlfriends, but I don't want, like it is just like confusing. You know what I mean?

And then you want to date and like on some level I feel like it's out there, right? And so it's like you get that back, right? So, you know, you're not like when you're really ready for a real relationship, if you really know that that's what you want and I think eventually that's what you're going to want. And I think, A, because you always. been a relationship person. You were always a cheater, but you always had a relationship. And B, because I just don't think that you have the time to be, like, to have many girls. I just don't think

that you do. I think you have too many things going on. You have too many businesses now. You have a child. Like, I think one girl, like, because you're a relationship guy, and that's where you get, like, that would be fine. And then maybe you cheat on her every now and then. But like, I just don't think that, what are you putting at me for? You're the perfect woman for me then? Me? Yeah. To cheat with you or to be your girl? Just be my, booty call. That's not what I'm talking about. See, this is where you're confused.

I'm saying that you need a real... Are these my mixed signals? Yes. You need... I really believe what you really ultimately, when you're ready, will have and what you will want is a real girlfriend. I think because you're not really saying that to yourself or you're not clear about that for yourself right now, you like are going out and like you said, oh, I felt a little excited about the girl and like you were like treating her like you wanted a relationship yet you

don't even know that that's what you want. Correct. Right. So that actually would have been unfair to her if she was really looking for that. Yeah, but what happens, I think when you, because I've seen this with my girlfriends too and I've seen it with myself, that when you don't really know what you want or you're not available, on some level you're unavailable, and then you just wind up sort of going on dates and doing business with people that are the same, right?

So don't wonder why the fuck you can't get a relationship if you're not getting one. It's probably because you don't really want. Like when my friends are like, oh, I want a relationship. But, you know, if I can't find a relationship, I'll also have a booty call. And if I just can't have a booty call, I'll have like an older woman that has a career that doesn't want time for me. You put out all those things. It's like so many mixed messages. Like what the how of course you're not getting exactly what you want. You have to be very clear, right? And that's it. I think when you're very clear that you want a relationship, you never had trouble finding a girlfriend that you really liked. It was always there when you wanted it and that was the deal. I think right now you don't know what you want because you still feel terrible about yourself. You're still working on yourself. And I think that's okay. I think as somebody like you who went from one relationship to another because you always did, you weren't alone. You didn't like to be alone. Okay. A little, a little, a little, alone time is kind of good. Okay, because really you should be okay. I've been alone for a long time right now. Okay, that's good. How long is long enough? Until you stop saying like terrible things

about yourself and you feel better about yourself because you don't want to, you don't want to go after like you, like I said, most of the time men won't or or women won't find somebody when they feel that way about themselves anyway, right? You're not going to attract it because you don't even, you're not ready for it. And people, it's not attractive, right, at all. Like I remember once when I was in a bad phase of my life, a friend of mine. I think it was Robert Kelly, actually. He was like, you know, Kathy, you have the self-esteem of a 300-pound girl. Like, you have a self-esteem of a fat girl, and you're, like, fucking odd.

You know what I mean? My 600-pound life. Yeah. And he was completely right. I was acting, like, the biggest loser when it came to guys for, like, we, and that was just a reflection of how I felt about myself on the inside, because it wasn't how I looked on the outside, right? So I just think that that's, like, what happened.

Well, it's kind of funny that you bring him up because I started. to like I haven't been going out. So I've been like Netflixing and just binge watching stuff. So I did the Louis CK, you know, series and everything. Louis. Yeah, have you watched his new Horrors and Pete? No. Okay, you like that next.

So I, uh, I love Robert as the brother because I actually kind of, I don't really identify with Louis because it, like his character, it seems like he's always. always been this like losery type of guy. Uh-huh. But like the, with Robert, I kind of like identify with. And one of my favorite things, the bang bang, do you know what that is? Yeah, when they, when they ate all the food? When they eat at one restaurant and they leave to go to another restaurant.

They just shove so much as much food in their face as they can, right? So I actually did a bang bang the other night. Was that the Hakasad night? No. Oh my God. Oh my God. Bang, bang. It's a bang bang.

That's when you know you've hit the shit. And you're like, oh, you're kidding with yourself. You're like, I'm going to do a bang, bang, you know. And then after the bang, the second one, you're like, I'm fucking a loser. I'm disgusting. I am just a disgusting human being. Right. But yeah.

So a little alone time is okay. You'll know. when you, I think the, when you said earlier, and it's very true that you took one step towards fixing yourself today, which was going to the gym, I think stuff like that is super huge. It's always the hardest part. But not just going. The first thing is the first time for doing something that's good for you. But just not going. I mean, anybody can just join the gym and go by themselves and I worked out today. I made a huge financial commitment with a trainer for 30 sessions paid for. Right, but for people, right, which so that forces you. Big time. It puts you on the line for a couple thousand dollars. But for people that are listening that don't have that money,

but you could put yourself on the line in different ways, right? By telling people. Exactly. Listen, it doesn't have to be financially, but put yourself on the line that you're kind on the line for. Like, if you screw up, like if I don't go. If I don't go, I'm going to be pissed because losing 120 bucks to me, like I'd be like, for, for,

one hour, I'm going to be upset about it. But how does somebody sort of put themselves on the line if they don't, if they don't have, like how does it work in that situation? I think a way sometimes it's like, maybe a gym membership, you know, like, hey, I'm paying all this money a month. Let me fucking go. Right. Or whatever it is.

Like once I told you, I did a man makeover for my friend Lee. And I mean, I remember he called me up with tears in his eyes. Like literally, I think he was crying on the phone. He was so grateful. Because he showed up. He was a good friend of mine in high school. He disappeared when he was married. And then the minute he got divorced, he was like, he was like, he was.

like reconnected with all his friends. I was one of them. And he showed up and he looked like a sad sack. You know, he was like a dickless divorcee. And I was like one day like, let's just like, I want to give you a makeover. I mean, I got him to go wax his back. I got him to wash, cut his hair.

I got him to spend a couple thousand dollars. He had money on a new wardrobe. And he looked like and then, and I also put him on a no carb diet because he was like just ate really wrong. You know, I cleaned up his that. So he lost massive weight. He went from like a three to I would say an eight and he was like back in action and ever since then his life changed and you know I think though he was ready for that you know what I mean but you have to sort of make that commitment that you're just ready and then you have to do all these things to make yourself feel better by yourself I mean to get back looking good and feeling good it's funny you can it takes you a year to destroy your body or even two years to absolutely fuck your body up and everything.

Everyone's like, oh, I don't want to get back into working out. But when I sat back and I looked at it, if you make a three to four day a week commitment, you'll be back in shape it in a week month. But that's only for people that have worked out their whole life. Muscle memory actually exists. I know I could lose my body and go back to the gym in three weeks. Or now that I'm a little older, it would take a month, a month and a half, and I have my body back. But that's people who have been hardcore working out people.

That's muscle memory. Some people haven't. I got it. Okay. That's just the truth. You have muscle. I'm going to birth this baby. I hope that the babies

am going to interrupt our meal. I mean, maybe you shouldn't eat. I don't know. No. I'm going to feed you some steak. Yeah, that's great. It's not going to work. I mean, you were just too rude when I got here.

But this is the thing. Like, we're both different people. I think that you get older and you change and you grow. And I think that that's like the great thing about life, right? Like, if you were still like sitting here trying to get back to your old game, I'd be like, I don't know. I'd kind of be like really like, you know, I think you reinvented yourself. When you got divorced, I think you grew and you change.

And now you're a different person. And sometimes when you try to go back to the old view, it doesn't work. It's not going to work. I'm going to give the Charascaria story. Okay. And this is about me trying to get my old game back and how it went horribly wrong. Me and you. Okay.

Okay. I had quit drinking. And when you quit drinking, I mean, it was like really hard. I couldn't drink anymore. But it was even harder was like everything that went with that drinking. Like where was my ego being fed? my ego wasn't being fit anymore. Like I used to go out.

I used to dress up like a whore. And I used to pick up a lot of guys. I used to put on a lot of makeup. I used to look like a stripper, right? And like I would get a lot of attention, right? And so like a year was going by. I hadn't drank. I hadn't gone out.

And I was like feeling really depressed about myself. And I called you up and I said, Tommy. And at this point we were banging. And I said, I really want to go out and I want to dress up like I used to. And I want to put up on a lot of makeup. And I just want you to take me out.

Right? I wanted to go back to who I was. Like I just didn't, I didn't know who I was any new the new me was but I knew who the old me was and I wanted that back because that seemed like an easy thing, right? I put in a lot of makeup and I felt like a fucking tranny, okay? Like from the minute I started to try to redo and recreate a hot blonde tranny whatever, recreate my old days. It wasn't even working before I met you, okay, met up with you, right? So I'm like, remember being in my bathroom getting ready and I just looked like shit.

My outfit looked weird. It felt really weird to be dressed up like in those slutty clothes without a lot of alcohol. just wasn't me anymore, but I still went with it, right? And I met you, and you were taking me out to my favorite restaurant, which is a platformer, Terascaria platformer, which was this high end, all you can eat, Brazilian Terascaria place, right? And we walked in, and I feel terrible about myself. Like I said, I felt like I looked like a tranny. I felt weird in my old clothes, but I wanted to, like, I said, feel better about myself, so I thought this would help. So I meet you at the Terasiaia and there next to our table is a table of like 35.

on, don't get there, okay, reserved, okay? It's reserved. Nobody's there, right? But it has reserve signs on it. And they are just waiting for the people that are going to, the 35 people that are going to sit right next to us while I'm looking like a tranny, right, and wanting to look hot. And who walks in? It's fucking fashion week. 35 of the hottest, youngest models. And you looked at me because you cared about me. We were, we were fun. I did. You felt so bad for me. because here I was just wanting to look at, I felt so terrible about myself, and in walks, these people that just like were, every 21 year old rushing. They were like a hundred up on me. And that's when I really realized. And that was like the best thing that could have happened. It was like my face was smudged in the mudd.

You just like forcing me to eat dirt, okay? But it was like actually to me, it was like the universe or whatever saying like you can't go back, right? Like that's for those girls. Like that's like I couldn't be like young and hot anymore. I had to figure out a new way to be and a new way to get attention or whatever. That was what my new thing was. And everyone's going to go through different transitions and it's about different things.

But that's where I was at in my life at 34, 35 years old. Right. And so never did I dress up like a tranny in my slutty clothes and do that ever again. Like that's when I really realized. Like this doesn't work. I can't. I'm not going to be hot in that way. Right.

And so I recreated a different way. I think for you like you're not going to be. Tommy anymore, right? You're going to be somebody else and you're still going to, and you're going to have your game again. And who's that going to be? I don't know. That's for you to sort of figure out. But it's probably going to be, you're going to be more true to who you are because I know you really well. And I, I just got to say this and we won't get that deep into your past. But I this is a compliment? No, this is an analysis that when you had all that game and you were cheating, it was like really dysfunctional. Something was wrong with you. You were never

really you. You were always popping a lot of pills. You were drinking a lot of stuff. You were doing a lot of drugs. You were always keeping all your intensity, all your sensitivity, all of you shoved down really deep, right? So you could just like fucking take care of business. You work hard, you play hard. You fucked a lot of girls. But you were never really yourself. But you, and you were always like one Xanax away from a nervous breakdown. You felt you passed out on planes. Like you were always in the hospital. Like you were like ready to fucking crack at all times because you were trying to hold it together by being very phony. Okay,

you weren't really being you. And when you gave up all the girls and you got married, all that fake bullshit strength that you had, all that sort of smoke and mirrors, okay, was gone. You became you. And what happens?

Because I know this, because when I quit drinking, it was the same thing. It's like Superman losing their kryptonite. You have to figure out. Oh, no, stop. Before every comic book person hates you. Why?

Cryptonite. It's Superman doesn't lose kryptonite. Cryptonite is what makes Superman weak. Oh, so he's given kryptonite. He's like, it's like giving Superman Kryptonite. Okay, thank you for that. You're welcome, because you would have gotten hate mail. Yeah, totally.

So it's like Superman being given kryptonite, right? All of a sudden you're like, all your phony strength is gone and you're like, you have to summon up real strength, right? But that's like a beautiful thing. Like I'm a real strong person now for real reasons, right? And that's what you're learning for yourself, right? So I think you'll be a more sensitive person. I still think you'll be a relationship guy, but you'll probably be better at relationships

because you were terrible for most of your relationships. And then your last relationship, you tried to be good. And then it fucking blew up in your face. So maybe that was bad karma, right? I don't know. But now you have a chance to be more of who you are, right? Figure out how to have real strength without sort of being that player and like, you know, feel really good about yourself for real without having to fuck a million girls

and double and triple deb. Not saying that you won't still want to screw a lot of girls. A long time ago. It would never happen really. I mean, listen. It's not going to happen again. You're past that. You can't go back.

You can't like you want to be like the tranny with the hot models. If something fell in my lap, something fell in my lap. You know what I mean? But one girl or two girls. I just don't think you have it in you. I think it's going to be a, that's just my prediction. Not to say that some guys won't go back and everyone's different. Everyone's at different places in their life.

Everybody is, you know, transitioning into different things, right? But this is what I see for you, and this is what I believe, and this is just my prediction. I think you will probably wind up when you're ready in another relationship. And I think that relationship, because you're going to go into it, more of, like, who you are might be the deepest, like, realist, best relationship you ever had. Because I think all your other relationships were bullshit because you were half fucking there. Because you were always sort of, you were a phony. You were a phony. Okay.

I know you believe me I know I'm speaking the truth Did you get the chills at any time? You always speak the truth, yes Yeah, no, but so that's what I think And I think that's what will happen In the meantime, should you not find a girl to fuck And everything?

That's, yeah, but like you text me When that fucking shit happens Because I think that you are so dickless That I don't know that you have it in you To get a girl in the sack Ooh, that sounds like a challenge Yeah, maybe that'll work for you I wish I could say that that was like my

real that was I did that on purpose to get you to go fuck a girl and like to get but it really wasn't I don't think I don't think that you have it in you to have meaningless sex with a girl and put in all that effort and just like just get a girl I just don't think I just don't think that I know your game because you've tried it on me and it's lame with a capital L okay it's like it's like it's not a fucking chance I don't have any game I know that's a problem if you want to get girls. It is a kind of a game. If you want to get a girl the wig in just a booty call kind of, there's a fucking game.

Especially if you're going after girls in their 20s. I didn't go after her. It kind of fell in my lap. But first of all, I don't know what I want. So let's figure out what I want first. Right. I'm saying that's what I mean. When you figure out what you want, I believe it will be a real relationship and you'll

meet somebody, a nice girl that you like. I think that you married the wrong kind of girl for you. I've always known you to like a certain kind of woman. I think eventually you'll wind up with that kind of woman. You know, for real, when you get a little bit more of your equal, you know, you like strong women, somebody like more successful, more together, more of a woman. Yeah. You married a girl and it was very odd for you because you, I know that wasn't your type. And a lot of times people wind up with the opposite.

Maybe it'll be the opposite. I don't really know, but you'll probably wind up with that. But in the meantime, if you just want to get fucked, you got to, no, you keep pointing in me. It's not going to happen. I mean, listen, there is always a chance. I said that it's on that infamous Joe DeRosa. You know, when Joe DeRosa got really mad at me because I went on a date with him and I wouldn't even make out with him. And he was like the whole sort of thing came up of like whether you should still pay the check because I didn't want to fill around with him and I knew I didn't like it.

Oh, you always pay the check. You're a guy. No, but his thing was like you should have because you figured out you didn't like me. But it's like for me, my whole point was like at any time on a date when you're sitting across from a woman, you have a chance to get her to like you. Like I'm like that type of person. I've dated every kind of guy. I'm sort of open. I never know who I'm going to fall for.

Most of the time with women, it's about a way a man has with himself that is attractive to her. It's not about how he looks. It's very opposite what a man is attracted to a woman, right? So men think, like, oh, you've got to look a certain way. Like, not really at all with women. It's a very different kind of a thing. You know, you have to sort of act a certain way.

And so if you play a girl the right way, sometimes you can get her to do something that she never thought going in that she would, right? like I said, when I first met you, I was like, I would never fuck you for, like, if you paid me million dollars, it was not interesting you. I thought you were a joke. Puma had to toe. I mean, you were like, you were like not my type at all. And then I screwed you. You're like my favorite booty call for like eight years. So it really, like you really got, you really put your time in and then you got me and then you had me for a very long time. And the best way, it was a very successful booty call. You know, this is what we talk about. I got to read that podcast. It was the

gift that kept on giving. Well, but it was a lot. We did that podcast. because it was a lot about, and we can't get into this because we got to wrap this up, it was a lot about how to have a successful booty call because we've all tried it and it doesn't work most of the time. But for me and you, it did work that one time. And I tried to recreate it and it's never work with other people. And it's never going to work with you again and me

because we're different people and been there done that. It's not going to happen. And I'm looking, when I eventually do date again because I have a baby, I'm not interested in the slightest. It will not be, I will not just have a booty call. I'll go on a date with a guy who buys me fucking flowers and lose me the right way. Do you understand?

Yes, absolutely. So that's what it's going to be. It's going to be like a real relationship when I eventually get back out on the scene. But, and I think that'll be the same thing for you. Tommy just wigged at me. Yeah, okay. So anyway, I hope I wish you the best with you.

I hope you get your dick back. And then until next week when I'm back on the podcast with updates. Oh, my God. Yeah, buddy. Dude, I'm taking up fucking real estate. Now, I would, listen, I don't mind to have you on every now and then, but I can't even get you to text me back when I, I schedule people. It's bad enough to schedule. She said to call her at 11 o'clock today. What time did I call? 11. Thank you very much. I know, but that was like, what did I think I had to bribe you with sex for that. Like I had to say, like, yeah, played me the right way and the right way to play me is at least be on fucking time. No, there was no sex. There was no bribing. But listen, if you want me back on the podcast, this is, this is, yes. Yes. I'm talking to the listings now. This is your opportunity.

Write me and say, oh, we want Tommy back. Yes, start a revolution. Tommy, it's not that, I fired you because you were, like, like, I don't know how you have businesses. I don't know how you keep your life together. You were so flaky. I was doing all the businesses and I couldn't dedicate the time and I wasn't reliable. And, like, I would say unreliable is not even the right word.

What's like on the other end of the spell? Like, what is like even worse that? unreliable. What is the word for that? Because that's what you were. Mostly unreliable. It was so bad. I couldn't deal. Unreliableist. The most unreliable person. I can't deal with that. I said, I don't like T-Pontas. So we'll see what happens, you know? But, you know, send in your feedback. You know, write a really good review about this show. I hope that people have learned. Let people know it's my soothing, quiet storm voice.

that you appreciate. Not my irritating cackle? Not her irritating cackle, crow call. I have noticed too with my... And I think people want to know has Tommy gotten laid yet? Yeah, we will find out.

No, I just put you up to... Like, I don't think you're gonna be able to get fucked at all. There we go. I just don't. There's the bet. So I want to check the next time you have meaningless sex. It's like, what's that movie? 16 candles.

I got to show. proof of the girl's underwear. No, I believe you if you tell me. Okay, let's put a wager on it. Well, okay, sure. What do you want to wager? You money? No.

Sex, please. It's not going to happen. I mean, I can lie to you and say yes and be like, but I'm not going to know. All right. We'll figure. Just do it for your own. On the next show, we'll figure out. Well, that's to give them.

Do you know what I mean? And just for your own release, like for your own balls, just to release some of that come. So you could just like come. Don't you need to do that as a man? Yes. With a real flash? Like,

could I just ask you a quick question? Yeah. And I don't know why I haven't asked. Like, since your divorce, wow, he's doing the jerking off son. Since the divorce, have you fucked at least one?

You only have to answer yes or no. All right. I'm not going to answer yes or no. You have to. I'm just not going to answer this question. Why not? Because. How many girls have you fucked?

Okay. Not have you, Okay, just answer this. I don't need a number. I just need a yes or no. Have you fucked anybody since you got divorced? Look me straight in the eye right now.

You haven't. Is the answer no? Come on. I'm trying to think. Is the answer no? Are you lying? Because you're, you're getting divorced.

No. Trust me. What's the right answer? Yeah. I had sex once. Once? Once. How long you've been divorced for her?

She moved out in October. No, when was the last time you fucked her? Way before. I'm talking about the last... April. April? Of last year. When you got divorced, right?

Yeah. Okay, so it's been a year and a year? Yeah. Just a year? No, you got to have two years ago. No, it's been a year. Only a year? It's only been a year.

Okay, so you have had sex once with a girl in... A year. Okay. Yeah, that's like an old. Like that's like nuts. That's fucked up, right? Well, it's, for you It is.

I mean, you know, yeah, you got to up that game. So let's try for one more in the next month. You think you can do it in one month? I think I can do it. Okay,

let's say. And I like to know if that girl ever texts you back. Has she texted you back? Look at your phone. No, but a friend of mine's bringing in someone to meet. Okay, good.

And don't text her again. No. Now, I mean, you did twice. That's it. No, no, no. You're getting blown off. That's it.

That's it. Yeah. I might have not even had a trip. She might have been lying about that. Remember she said I'm going on a business trip? Why do you want to fucking kick me while I'm down? It's supposed to be here making me feel better. Well, because when I used to feel bad about my guys.

I know you feel bad, but yeah, she was totally not into you. Who cares? Because you got to deal with rejection. I remember when I would be upset about my guys and I'd go over your house and to talk about it. I remember one time seriously sitting on top of you crying because halfway in guy had just dumped me and all you did was try and unbuckle my belt the whole time because you just wanted to have sex.

Like you could have cared less. So you were just as insensitive in another way. And actually a much ruder way. Okay. But it helped you. Look where you've come. Yeah. What?

It helped me. How? I don't know. Somehow. Okay. Anyway, we don't need to talk about me. So anyway,

thank you so much for being on my podcast. Now we're going to go eat. You're going to have your baby eventually. And then you'll have. And then you'll get late and you'll keep us posted. Bye. Bye. Okay.

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