Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1251 – Clay Loves Wearing Hose and His Girlfriend Is Totally Into It

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Clay loves wearing hose and his girl is totally down with it and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including the first time he noticed hose and got turned on by them, ...how he first got his hands on a pair and what he did with them, the first time he hooked up with a girl in hose and what went down, his marriage to a woman who didn’t understand his fetish and how and why it fell apart, how he met his new girl who not only accepts his fetish but is also y turned on bit, how she buys him panties and hose and comes up with kinky things for them to do, the brands and colors he loves best, the anal play they’ve gotten into, why he refuses to shave, and how and why he started posting pics of them online plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous a pics of CLAY plus my other female guests + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER and or HOSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier, it's only $8 a month for Hosers and $10 a month for crossdressers and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠ MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2532-anonymous⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use my promo code STRICTLY at checkout to get 30% off sitewide ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:54 Okay, today I have on Clay. Clay is living a life. He's a hoser who's got a girl who's not only into hose. She's like really into it. Okay. She comes up with some interesting ideas from him. But he didn't always live that life. He actually started out on the opposite end of a spectrum. He was married previously to a woman who was very anti-animated and feel bad about it. Of course, like every fetish episode, we do go all the way back. He talks about when he got into hose. When he first started wearing them, where he found them, when he was younger, what he did with them. And then, you know, he had and then when he would introduce them with girls he had one girl he had sex with with hose that was like a one-time deal he talks about that and then he talks about how he met his ex-wife and how that went wrong and then it's kind of funny people are going to get mad at me because I literally make the poor guy start going into his whole divorce story and then I'm like oh forget it let's just move on and so I do interrupt him a lot around there so don't get mad but I wanted to bring it back to hose because this is a fetish episode and then we talk about when
Starting point is 00:03:53 you know how and when he met this new girl that he was with that he's with who's so super cool and super accepting and not just accepting like I said she's fucking horny for it okay she's the one who's like gets him to do stuff that he didn't even think of like she came up with you're going to be super jealous of him I want her on the call I think she's going to call in I hope so you're going to love Clay story it's super interesting he's living his best life but like I said he wasn't always so there's hope for people and hopefully you know she's going to call in tune we'll We'll get to talk to her in the future. I do have picks of him over on my Patreon.
Starting point is 00:04:28 He does have an Instagram. I want to give it a shout out because he just started it and it's pictures of him and his girl is called Panny Ho's husband. You're going to get his whole story here. So I'm going to get right to be right back on with Clay. Hi, Clay. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Hi, good. How are you? Good. Listen, Cody. I keep calling you Cody. Why don't I fucking have you in my head as Cody or Clay? I mean, it's all fake names. And honestly, if you ask me, I don't really give a fuck about anyone's name, including
Starting point is 00:04:53 mine. You can just tell me anything. Names are so unimportant. It's the only thing you don't even pick in your whole life. It's the most uninteresting part of a person. So anyway, Clay, you're a hoser. You got a girl, right? And she is down with your, or she knows, right?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Like, would you say she's down or she knows? She's down and she knows. I wear daily. Mostly I wear under my jeans, my pants at work. Out in public, I'll wear shorts with panty hose or like footless tights with like my sneakers and she's all about it and we will lay in bed and cuddle and panty hose together. We've actually taken some photos together and I've put on my Instagrams. So she's all about it very shockingly. I know a lot of women are not into it.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Oh no, no, no, no. You need to say the butt, but you had a first wife who was very not into it. And that's what's so interesting about your story. Right. So we will work up to this amazing girl that you hit the jackpot with, right? Because that's everybody's dream. But you had a wife that, like, thought you were, quote unquote, gay. Yeah, she was, she was very ironic in a way that she would have gay and lesbian friends. But when her own husband wanted to do something out of the norm, it was, oh my God, you're gay. Don't do that. I'm like, what? She was an uneducated. She doesn't even understand what, you know, what being a Dapani Ho's, you know, means. First of all, one has nothing to do with the other. You know, and most of the time, even with cross-dressers, most cross-dressers are straight, by the way.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It is, and that's a, that's a true statement. But people don't know. And I think that's the heart, that's the thing that I think a lot of people have to understand about their partners. Most of the time, they don't understand the fetish. Somebody once said it to me, and we're going to go back to your story, but I'm just going to say this real quick, because this is the most brilliant thing a hoser said to me one time. He said, you know, what I realized when I told my partner and she wasn't really that into it, that it took me my whole life to try and figure out my fetish. Like, how could I expect her to figure out my fetish in one day? And that's very true.
Starting point is 00:06:52 You know, I think that, you know, the thing that the hoser has to understand is that it's very confusing for a girl. She doesn't fucking understand it. She doesn't live in your head. And it's really important, especially when you come across a woman who really has no clue and has blinders on to really educate them on the fetish and give them information so they understand it. Because, and if they still don't, you know, what can you do? You know, but I mean, but let's go all the way back. That's what I do like to do with. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Well, hosers. How old are you now, by the way? And how long you've been with your new wife? I am 43 right now. We have been together, I want to say, well, we've been together five years. Technically, we're not married in the legality sense. Whatever, but together.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I want everything, living together. I mean, she's a wife. I mean, it's fine. I don't give a fuck about names and I don't give a fuck about whether you're married or not. It doesn't matter to me. I don't even care about weddings. They're so stupid to me. Okay, so let's go all the way back to your fetish.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I'm the most unromantic person. I don't know what the word is, but I don't care about it. Okay. So go back all the way to the. pass. Let's go all the way to the beginning. Okay. I was sitting there thinking about that like this week and I was like, when did I first like really notice like
Starting point is 00:07:58 nylons and stockings? And it's the most screwed up way, but like as a child, like, I mean 12, like 8 or 9, I used to watch Nickelodeon a lot. Clarissa explains it all with like Melissa Joan Hart, I think it was. Okay. And she always wore
Starting point is 00:08:14 like shorts and tights underneath, shorts, tights, and like sneakers. And then like she's you know and then i was like as a kid i was like it's kind of hot you know like what's going on here you know and after that i was like hmm maybe that is what does it feel like but the thing was is at the time i just lived with my father we had he was not dating at the time my parents were split no sisters only had a brother and he was already gone in the military and i was like hmm weird you know like it was just that that drive you know like what do they feel like
Starting point is 00:08:50 what they look like. And you always see like teachers wearing them. And I think the first time I ever felt them on somebody was actually a teacher. I had a teacher and we were in like a computer class. And I went over to her desk and I was like asking her for some help on something. And mid-90s, it was that teacher who wore the long jean dress that like buttoned up the front, you know. And I remember she was sitting there and she like crossed her legs and like her dress opened up a little bit and her knee opened up. And it was like tan probably like legs sheer painting hose. And I was like, oh my. And so like for some odd weird reason, I like kind of lean forward to like touch the desk.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And I like, I just like put my hand on her leg. And she kind of looked at me and smiled. And she was like, excuse me? And I was like, I am so sorry. And she's like, no, it's okay. And then ever since that day, even to this day now, I'll see her like out and about. Like I'll be like shopping for grocery. And I still see her.
Starting point is 00:09:48 and she just kind of gives me this like smile. And now she's like mid-60s, probably 70, I don't know, older lady, but she still dresses the same way. Like every from I see her, she's like wearing skirt. But can I just ask you a question? But can I just ask you question? Because this is where I think you might be projecting a little bit. I don't know. I mean, because you do hear about a lot of these teachers, like, seducing their fucking little kid.
Starting point is 00:10:09 No, she didn't. Like the fact that you, do you think she was like flirting with you? Because trust me, she wasn't. She was being nice. exactly she was just being nice and like she was more like oh Jesus cricky another one of these children touching my legs yeah she thought it was like the way no I'm just saying because the way you explained it and I've heard other hosers kind of like you know they read into
Starting point is 00:10:30 things and they you know they frame it like you know she was like flirting I'm sorry I don't think so no and honestly she is like the quote unquote Susie homemaker of teacher like that teacher who wore like the long dress and like I touched her legs like once and they like she always just like smiled and it's probably more like Oh my God, what a weird ass little child. No, cute. She thought you're cute. Yeah, cute, maybe.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But she'd always wear, like, the vest that are crocheted with, like, the apple on one side and a bus. You know, like, nothing of the sexual say it stored at all. All right. Sorry. The way you explained it, though, it sounded a little sexual. I just wanted to, like, you know, break your fantasy. No, there was no after school on the desk thing. No, and, like, at that time, I don't think I could even done that.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But, like, for me, it was just like a weird. You know, I got to tell you, it's kind of interesting. about your story is typically like the hosers I'm talking to were all the way back in this time kind of similar stuff is going on but they're always like in a house where they could get their hands on it it's so interesting that here you were like no amazon right no nothing there's no way you could do it on the dl except to steal it from somebody in your house and you had nobody no no nobody at all and the first time i actually got my hands on some i actually like i turned 16 and i worked at a grocery store. And at the grocery store, like, we would close up 10 o'clock 1030 here. And we'd have to
Starting point is 00:11:50 walk every aisle to make sure, like, no one was hiding or like no one left a package of stakes laying on the ground, should be like that. I remember one night I walked by and there was like the cosmetics aisle and there was like legs and the old school plastic bags hanging there for like a dollar 50 of parapamios. And a 16 year old stupid child wearing cargo pants and all that. And I just went, I can do it. And I remember grabbing a pair of like sheared a waist, legs, tan or sun tan nylons and just chivaled in my pocket. Oh my God. And like, and like that was like the first time I got my hands on them and like straight home and was like, oh dear God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You know what I mean? Yeah. Put them on and I was like, ooh, these are kind of nice. But they're also kind of itchy. You know, because you're probably this whole time imagining them, you know, because you're seeing them. like being so silky and soft and slimy, because that's what you want, right? You don't want like a scratchy feel, you know? And like if I look back at that now, I know like why most women are like, I hate Taneyhose,
Starting point is 00:12:55 is because I don't think they buy the good high dollar brands. They don't go to buy the Wolferds or the Sony Pandas and stuff like that. They want to, they just go to the normal big box store and grab a crap pair. And I remember wearing them and like all, you know what kids do? You wear them straight masturbation. It was straight. Oh, yeah. And then after that, it was fun because I was dating a girl and we had winter formal.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And we went to this winter formal and for some odd weird reason and look at God, my parents at the time, my dad finally got remarried. So he had a wife and I had a stepmom in, but she was still no panty hose, nothing like that. She was medical field. They were gone. Like they went somewhere and I'm like, you guys are leaving during winter and formal. okay, whatever. You know, and so the girl I was dating, we both came back to my house and she stayed at night.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I remember like taking the dress off, making it out and all that. And when she took the dress off, she had panty hose on. And I was just like, finally, finally. And that was like the first time me, girl, sexual act with panty hose. Did you leave them on as long as possible? And was she, like, what the fuck are you doing? I want to take these off? Or like, did she, was she down?
Starting point is 00:14:11 would it. Actually, she was like, I told her, I was like, I'm sorry, it's cold in here. She's like, oh, it's okay. She's like, oh, it's okay. She's like, I said, you can just leave those on if they make you warm shit like that just to keep them on her. And it was the total like, I think what every hoser wants, the total ripping of the crotch out and going straight with it with her still wearing them. And she loved it. She thought it was the coolest thing ever. Okay, guys, let's talk about jiz for a second. I don't need to be a guy to know that men love when they shoot a really big load. The bigger, the better, right? I'll admit it. I'm impressed by a bigger load, I have to say. And the good news is, I know a supplement specifically designed to increase your load and your
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Starting point is 00:16:29 it up and then it was just like dry spell you know like of girls but during this time though are you like getting more hose do you have a stash are you just wearing that one pair that you i was like i had like i would like go to like the stores and like buy them and people would look at me weird and i'd be like oh these are my mom or like yeah yeah and i would buy two or three pair but i'd hide them stash them wear them here and there masturbate them where i'm at the house there's always that fear as a child like oh my parents are going to walk in and be like oh my god you know, because I'm in rural America and we're pretty close-minded here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Did you ever get caught? I never got caught, actually, never. The only time, like I said, I think the only time I ever wore them in front of somebody and, like, said, and they said something to me was the ex-wife. But growing up all through there, all through college, all through, right up until I got married, I would wear them, hide them. I was never into the panties at the time. I was never into lingerie or anything like that, or the makeup.
Starting point is 00:17:29 or cross-dressing. It was just hose. It was just, and I think it was a comfort thing. I will admit, I have anxiety like pretty much most of American these days. And wearing tights and panty hose, it's actually like a comfort thing also for me. It's sexual, yes, at times. But during, like, like right now, I'm wearing some laundry by Shelley, which is a brand that I got actually offline. And they're very comfortable. They're very tight. They have a shine to them. But it's not a sexual thing. like right now it's a comfort thing. It's like that keeping you close. Yeah, like a compression thing.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Feeling like that feeling, the tight feeling on you're like, I like that. I understand it. Keeping you together. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, and that's kind of what it is. And actually, that's, I mean, that's where later on with the new white, that's where how I kind of got into it with her. But so after up into college, like I said, I would wear them, jerk off and I cut the, I had this thing for a while. Like, I wouldn't even wear them.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I would just cut the foot off. and use the foot as like a jerk off sock. And it feels because... No, I'm sure you're not the only one. Okay, I'm sure you're not the only one. Oh, I know. I know. I'm probably not the only one that everybody's like. I mean, people probably just buy the little,
Starting point is 00:18:43 the footsy ones, you know what I mean? The ones that are just like socks? Because that's a perfect thing to use. Yes, exactly. I actually did that a couple times. Yeah, of course. I heard it all. Yeah, I listen to the podcast for wherever.
Starting point is 00:18:58 ever. I know you've heard it all in a lot more. But after that, that's when I started dating my ex-wife. And after that, we- How old were you when you met her? Were you like in your 30s already? I was 23. We were actually married. Oh, yeah, this is the first wife, right? Okay. Yeah, the first wife. Yeah. We actually were married right around almost 16 years. Okay, cool. When I married her, she was a virgin. So- How old was she when she was a virgin? She was 21. Okay. Yeah, at the time, yeah. And she really wasn't, I mean, very vanilla, I guess she'd say.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And like, I have a high sexual drive. I mean, I'm jerking off in nylon socks. Yeah. And she was the one of the persons that was like, I don't masturbate. I'm like, you're insane. I didn't say that. But this is what I want to know. This is what confuses me.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like, you meet this girl. She's like really vanilla. You don't match up at all sexually or do you? Are you having great sex regardless because it's the beginning of your relationship? Because why do you want to? up with a girl like that? It was actually, it was actually, we didn't have sex until like, probably like, you know, I'd say like a month or two into it, but like before all that was dating, you know, kissing and stuff like that. It was just, we meshed well. So everything else was there,
Starting point is 00:20:09 but the sex was never that great? No, it was never that great. No. And it was, even up until like the very end of our relationship, it still was like, oh, huh. Well, I'm sorry, but it's never going to get better. Okay. What happens a lot of time is it's fucking off the charts when you first meet them on and then it goes downhill. But if it sucks from at the, at the beginning. It's never going to be great. It's never going to end great. You're just doomed for failure. Yeah. And I was the thing. I would like, like I said, we got into it. We had sex. We had kids. And then, but she would always be like, she was that person. It was like, my job, your job in sex is they get off. And once you get off, we're pretty well done. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. But did
Starting point is 00:20:49 she think of herself at all? Was she having orgasms? Do you know? I would, yes, she had orgasms. I could give her orgasms. She would squirt when I gave her orgasms. Wow. And she wasn't like wanting to do that all the time. No. Like, and like I mean, we would, we would use toys. Like I would put a toy like a vibrator in her and why I'm vibrating her pussy, I would rubber clit. And every time it was, it was like a combination. It was like to do the left, four to the right, squirt. Like that's how, I mean, we were 16 years. That's, you, you get to know someone's body really well. But sooner or later, I brought into our relationship. I said, hey, would you, Actually, I ordered some stockings for her. And I said, hey, I ordered you something.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And she was like, what am I going to do with those? I was like, well, she's like, why? I'm like, I think they look sexy on you. And she's like, I think they look stupid on me. And like, when someone tells you that, it's just like, oh, what I like in life. Yeah, but she doesn't know. But what you don't understand is I get that you're feeling like she is just like knocked down all your dreams. But she doesn't fucking know that.
Starting point is 00:21:53 So she's just making some statement than not liking the hose. Like, who cares? But you're taking it so personally, but she's not really being that mean to you. Sorry. She's just saying, I don't want to fucking wear them. I think it was more like I don't understand them really also. But then finally. You're taking that because this is your deepest passion fetish thing that you're holding.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I'm just saying you're like she's not coming though from the place of being so down. It's not like you sat down and explained everything to her. And she said, oh, that's stupid. You just bought her a pair of hose. And she's like, I don't want to wear. them. Yeah, true. At that time, not yet. Yeah. We'll get there. So I got them for and finally, it was actually right around December and actually my birthday came up and actually she wore them for my birthday. And she was like, she didn't mind
Starting point is 00:22:40 them. She was like, these are nice. These are comfortable. And then she wore them. And then after that, I was like, well, I really like these on you. I like the way they look on your legs. I like the way look on your feet. I like the way they accent everything on you, the shine, the feel. And she said, cool. That's okay. So after that, I bought her a couple more pair. And like, there was a brand because she was more not like a skinny, skinny girl. She wasn't more bigger. She was like a medium bill athletically. And so there's a brand called Kixies, K-I-X-I-E-S. Okay. And they're not a huge known brand company out there, but they make amazing stockings that are holdups for the thicker thigh lady.
Starting point is 00:23:23 And like, my wife, yeah, my wife now actually wears them all. She wear them when we go out and stuff like that. And they stay up. Like they have like a triple band, but they're not like insanely tight.
Starting point is 00:23:34 They're not like cutting off your leg circulation. And they have everything from like whites to reds to the back seams. Like the wife right now, she loves there's like these kind of ivory colored ones. But like they have a red seam down the back with the red heel and toe. the Cuban heel, like absolutely loves those. So I would buy the ex-wife those and she would like them. And then finally, we had like a little disagreement and she literally finally said to me, she said, the only reason I wear stockings for you is so you orgasm quicker and I'm done.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And I was like, oh. Well, keep that to yourself. I was like, whoa, whoa, you know. And I and then she was like, I don't understand why. I mean, at the time, you know, and I look back at it. I mean, we were younger, and she was like, I don't understand why my body isn't enough. And I was like, it's not just your body. It's what I like, what I'm attracted to, but I'm also attracted to you also. And she was like, well, I think you're stupid. I'm like, okay, you know, and that was a very common reaction, though, from a woman to take it in the wrong way. And they very much personalize it. And it's not the truth at all. And that's where like a little education goes a long way because it's not like she's the first woman that. feels that way. A lot of women are like, why do you need this? Like, why am I not enough? You know, that's how they feel. Exactly. And I understand that bad. I look back at it now. I understand that. And like, and I won't, I mean, I'll admit she had a great body. She had amazing
Starting point is 00:25:04 boobs. She had amazing ass. She had everything. And sex was okay, like at that time. And then finally, she and I both cheated on each other, like right at the end of our marriage. And like, most people did the end of the marriage? How did I know? How did I know? I mean, who found out? Does someone find out first? Well, I came home for lunch one day and she was on her phone and she was texting. And I was like, who you, I said, are you talking to? She's like, oh, I'm talking to, I don't know, Jill about something. And I was like, oh, cool. And she's like, yeah, it's about a baby thing. And I was like, oh, cool, let me see real quick. You know, because I wanted to see what she was talking about. And she, like, grabbed her phone and I could see her scrolling to find something else.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And I was like, wait. And she showed me a picture. I said, this is, from like a week and a half ago, who you're really talking to? And literally she showed, she's finally started just breaking down. And she's like, I haven't had sex with him. I am just talking. We haven't done anything. And I was like, who is this? And it was like a, she was in her 30s and it was like a 60 year old local lawyer. And I was like, holy, you know, and I was like, whoa, daddy complex, big time, I guess. And. Or maybe she just wanted someone totally different than you. It was totally different from me.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Like it went from... And he's powerful. Women like power. Sometimes, I'm sorry to say this, but older guys sometimes are super hot. Like, they have like a command and a maturity about them that a lot of girls think is hot. Sorry. This guy was a little pudgy ball in. I was hoping you're...
Starting point is 00:26:38 Glasses. Now you're like, no. No, no, I love what I'm wrong. It's so fucking funny. Older Charlie Brown with glasses. Oh, my God. I'm thinking like... I'm thinking the exact opposite.
Starting point is 00:26:50 No, yeah, it was the complete opposite. And I was like, what the crap? Yeah, well, wait, you so then did you cop to the fact that you were cheating on her too? And, well, it was funny because I said, how, how does this happen? How this happened? And it was funny, she goes, oh, well, we started talking at church. I'm like, oh, of all places, you know, because at the time, we would actually go to attend church. And forget about hers.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I got she mad about church. Who cares where's my, you know. Yeah, exactly. What happened to where, how did she find out you were cheating? Because you weren't cheating at this same time, right? Yes, actually, because I was actually helping out in a local theater production here. And why I was helping the theater, I was actually building, like, I'm, I love to do woodworking. I love to build and create stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And I was helping build sets and painting backdrops and, you know, lights and stuff like that. And one of the girls there that was one of the actors or actresses in the play, her and I started chit-chatting and talking. And one day we're downstairs looking. I was asking for some help. And she was like, I bent over so I get it. She was like, you have a fine ass. And I'm like, well, you have a better ass. And then we find there, we switch numbers and we start talking.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And then she would work from home at the time. So like with my job, I can float around. And like, I would just come on over. And we started. How long were you doing that? I'm sorry. I don't want to get too stuck on. I get obsessed with cheating.
Starting point is 00:28:11 By the way, I get obsessed with cheating stories. And then I take everything off track and it's not good. Because you really want to talk to you about the whole. and everything. But let me just ask you, like, how long were you banging her for behind your wife's back? I was having sex with her for about two months. When you found out your wife was with the other guy. With the other guy. Yeah. And I hate to say, I felt bad because she says she wasn't banging him. She was probably lying. She probably was. Yeah, she's right lying. Don't worry. Don't feel so bad. No, I know. Well, later on our divorce, that was her lawyer. So you put two and two together.
Starting point is 00:28:42 She was definitely sleeping with him. So wait a second. So did you, did you then call? to the fact that you were cheating on her? Did she find out? She actually looked at me and she says, well, I'm not the only one I think cheating in this house. And I said, what do you mean? And she said, well, I think you're cheating with Sarah. I'll just say her name.
Starting point is 00:28:59 It wasn't her and that was not her name. But I was like, why do you think that? She's like, because I know that you are talking to her and I know you guys hang out after the theater stuff. And I was like, oh. And like, because there's a lot of your friends with friends Listen, women have intuition. They know. Okay. I know how she knew. Women just fucking know. Okay. Did you tell her. Did you say yes? That's true? Yeah. I actually, I said, well, if we're going to be, if we're going to be open it. So I said, yes, her and I are, we and her have been talking. And she was like, why? And like, I was like, because she brings things to the table. You're not. I said, she actually likes me for me. She actually likes me for what I was doing. And finally, we both said, let's try to figure this out.
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Starting point is 00:31:47 And finally, we both said, let's try to figure this out. Let's try to keep the marriage together. Let's try to keep the kids and family. During this whole time, where is all the stuff about the hose coming in where she thought you were gay? And, you know, she was very anti it. Let's keep stay on track with hos or story. Because I could do a cheater story for a whole fucking episode. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I could too because that was some weird shit. Yeah, but we need to move on to the fun part of your story. Let's talk about the happiness with the new girl. So I was in the theater and a production of Rocky Horror came up. And they asked me, hey, can you help with the Rocky Horse? I said, yeah, you know, they said, you have to dress. And I was like, oh, man. In the back of my mind, I was like, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Rocky Hoar, you know. Yeah. And I asked the wife that the wife. the time. I said, hey, I got to do help with Rocky Hore. Do you want to help also? And she said, yeah, I would love to help. So we both did the thing. And, like, we went out and shopped and got all the I got booty shorts,
Starting point is 00:32:45 and I got the fishnets. I wore, like, clear, like, tights underneath it or panty hose. And then I put fishnets over it, and, like, I painted my toes red, you know, and she found me heels to wear. And then, like, did, like, a boostier, because I actually had a friend at the theater who was a cross-dresser. He did
Starting point is 00:33:04 did direct shows and everything. And, you know, He was like, hey, you know, we're this boostier. It's got the fake tits in it. And I wore it all. And I was like, this is awesome. You know, this feels great, you know. This is what theater's about. You know, I'll do theater all day.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And we did the productions and we got done with the first production. We came home. And I told her, I said, hey, you know, I said, hey, you know, I started kissing her. And she's like, we are not having sex with you dress like that. She said, what are you some F word? And I was like the way, how feminine you look. She did not want to be with like a feminine looking dude. And you were dressed up in that way.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And she was not into it. Yeah, she wasn't into it. And I felt good wearing it, you know? And I was like, well, it's just kind of, I said, it's for fun. It's just, I said, you look amazing. I look amazing. And what happened to it was she finally said to me right then that evening. She's like, it's because you got hit on more than I did.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And I was like. Okay. This is all nonsense. This isn't even about a hose. This is about a costume. Okay. She didn't like it. She didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And that's the thing is I said, okay, well, cool. And then she goes, you need to take all. off because I'm not married to a gay man. And I was like, I'm not gay. Yeah, yeah, okay? We can't. Let's get past her. You divorce her.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Okay, let's divorce. I'm so happy you divorced her. Let's divorce the conversation about her. Let's get, because I want you do so much with this new girl. Okay, like that's your past. That doesn't exist. How do you meet this girl after you get divorced? We actually knew each other from like 10 years before because I was a coach with a local YMCA
Starting point is 00:34:31 helping coach basketball and soccer and stuff like this. So I knew. her because her child was in that area. We were both married at time. We finally were both divorced. We met one day at a bar. We just started talking. And we finally hooked up, started dating.
Starting point is 00:34:46 So time passes. We move in together. And she knew right away. I told her, like, right away, I was, you know, we were talking like, what is your kinks? What are you into? And, you know, she was like, I love oral. I love getting ate out.
Starting point is 00:34:58 She said, like, you can pull over anywhere. You can throw me on a hood and look my pussy in a middle of a week filled if you want. I was like, yes. And I was like, well, I love stockings, hills, panty hose, all of that. And she's like, I've never worn much of that. I was like, well, if I bought you stuff, would you? She's like, oh, yeah. She said anything.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Let's do it. So I bought her some thigh highs. I put them on her, you know, like we're laying a bed and I like, I like, I like, sit them upper legs. And I started kissing her leg. And she's like, these feel amazing. And she loved it. She fucking, it was like one of the best sex ever, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:30 And time happens. She wears all for me. Like, I'll be like, hey, I bought you some. lingerie. She's like, oh, yes, you know, or we're big in a toys. I mean, I'll buy her a new dildo or a new vibrator, something like that. And she'll love it. She loves it. And then actually, then finally she got into me and she's like, hey, would you like to have a little toy on you? And I said, you know, I'm not living in a toys, I said, but what if I like, were like, you know, something soft and silky? And she's like, like a pair of panties. I was like, sure. So she, like,
Starting point is 00:36:01 threw me a pair of her panties and I put them on. And like, I remember, like, laying there. And she would just stroke my cock through the panties. I was like, God, this is amazing. You know, and it just grew. And then finally one day, I was like, hey. With her help, by the way. I mean, that's super interesting, right? Yeah, she's like adding to it.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Yes. And I actually asked her. I said, hey, what if I were, you know, what if I wore? I said, these are comfortable. Hell, you know. And she was like, yeah, she's like, girl panties are so much comfortable than your underwear. She said, and they look better too. And I was like, well, I don't want to like the lace and all that.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I like this silky satiny, you know, and she's like, go get some. She's supposed to order some right now. So we got on Amazon, and she's like scrolling and like ordering panties for me. Wow. I was like, this is amazing. I was like, this is, I was like, and I told her, I was like, this is, this is, is, is this gay to you? And she's like, no, she said, it's just fabric.
Starting point is 00:36:52 It's your comfort. It's what you want and what you feel like. Was it ever gay to you? Did you ever question your sexuality? Were you ever into guys when you were wearing, by the way? actually no I never happened I always I always looked at the females like or I'd like you know look at the look at the porous like that and I'd always go straight for panty hose porn or stalking's porn or mom stockings mom panty hose I never got into the guy panty hose even when you were wearing pantyose because
Starting point is 00:37:20 sometimes people feel a little bit more feminine so you were so that was 100% you're not even not gay also not by and also not into sucking a dick every now and then no the about but you like pantos and you love women wearing them and you like to wear them and it's the way weirdest thing ever. It's like straight man, Panya host, husband and people are like, that's why it's important to have like people like you on my show so that people could know that this is true.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Because you have no reason to lie to me. Like you would be telling me the truth. Like, everyone's calling it anonymous. This is where you get to bear it all. And like, no, you can be completely straight if some girl is worried about her guy that he likes to have her warehouse and wear himself. You could still be fucking straight
Starting point is 00:37:58 if that's your biggest fear. Exactly. And like and she went like with the whole, she didn't just by like bikini peonies with the you know the full back she went straight hard course she was like I'm gonna wear a couple thongs she said you need a triathlon and I was like that's my question I was like do I really want to wear a thong because I worked like in the construction field area and like all I can imagine is me bending over and like my thong popping up and like the guys be like what the fuck are you wearing and and and and but me it's funny I still do it I mean I I wear every day and nobody says anything or questions anything.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And I mean, I mean, they've had a scene. But we're really 2025. I mean, who the fuck cares what people wear? So she started getting into it. She was all like, buy your panties. She's like, let's just get rid of your mail underwear. She said, I said, well, we'll keep a couple. She's like, cool.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But she's like, wear what you want. These feel better on you. They look better on you. You have a fucking, she loves my ass. She's like, you have a fine ass in this thong. You know? And like, I would like wear the thong and like have like athletic shorts. And she would just kind of just smack me
Starting point is 00:38:57 as hard as she can and be like bedroom now and I'm like yes ma'am it's like is she into girls at all no she is not a girl yeah she likes for you to have like a little girly thing I don't know a little little bit no yeah we're like the weirdest couple like I'm not into dudes wearing and she's not in a girl's wearing and it's really odd you know because most most people are that way and then like okay so I would say about six months ago I we were sitting there And I was like, I want some compression on my legs. She's like, do what? I said, well, I wanted, I said, the panos are nice.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I said, but I want to try pantos. She's like, okay. I was like, do what? She's like, yeah. She said, like, you want to wear a pair of my kick, you know, my stockings? Or do you want like a pair of my tights? I'm like, whatever. And she's like, okay, she's like, well, I don't think it's the stocking she said,
Starting point is 00:39:51 because she has a little bit bigger thigh. And that's where that brand comes in. They fit her perfectly with the bigger thigh. And so she gave me a pair of tights, and I got put them on. And I was like, oh, they look good on you. And I was like, you're cool with it? She's like, yeah, I'm cool with it. She's like, not gay, nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:08 And I was like, and as always my question, I'm like, too gay? She's like, no, not gay at all. And I'm like, amazing. So from there, I would like, I would like tell her. I'm like, hey, I'm going to buy more. She's like, okay. And so. Isn't it funny that people attribute gay as being a woman?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Like, it's like, it doesn't even make sense. like, you've said gay like 80 times in this call and it's like not gay, like meaning when you're dressed up in feminine clothing, that makes you gay. So that's like, and someone once told me that these two gay guys, they said really what, why people have such a problem with gay people and it's really misogyny because it's like, what's wrong? First of all, with a woman. You're gay.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It's like, it's a bad thing. Do I look gay meaning like, do I look like a woman? Like, and it's that bad. Well, like for me, like with the ex-wife, like I remember saying it like that one time, she was like, well, you're gay because your toes are painted. I was like, I could be out there chopping wood for the fireplace to still be gay. And that's the thing. And so the wife now, she's like, I mean, like, what was it?
Starting point is 00:41:06 Well, let's just go back two weeks ago. We were sitting there and she goes, hey, your panos have a run in them. I was like, oh, shit. And she was like, do you have any more of that brand? She's like, those are really soft. And I was like, actually, I don't. She's like, where'd you get them at? I'm like, oh, Amazon.
Starting point is 00:41:18 She's like, all, cool. And like, two days later, two new pairs show up. And I'm like. She bought them for you. She went bought them for me because she knew that I loved them. They were like a, they're not really panty hose. They're a footless painting hose that was like really shiny and tight. And they were like gray.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And gray panty hose to me is like one of the best things ever. I don't know why. That's interesting. Everybody likes to tans. Everybody likes the whites. I like the gray because it has a shine to it. It was like silver. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah, you're the first hoser I've talked to that gray is the fave. Yeah. And see, red, I hate red. I don't like red pantyhose at all. Never heard one person say they like red. I'm like, you have ketchup late. I don't think anyone likes red panty hose legs. So gray, go on.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So I wore the gray and like the fun thing was she actually, one of the pairs she bought had a cock sheath in it. And I was like, whoa. And she's like, yeah, I thought you'd like these. So it's like footless tight panty hose, super shiny with a cock sheath. Now, I just got a big box of stuff from Robert at Chapings.com and he sent me this new brand. He just sent me a new brand for guys. I'm going to do an episode on my Patreon. You, by the way, for calling in, you're going to get a free access to my Patreon for a whole year.
Starting point is 00:42:30 So there's tons of extra content there and everything. Anyone that calls in as a hos or a crushess, it gets free access for a whole year. So that's like, you know, almost $100 you're getting. But anyway, just for calling in. But he sent me some guy stuff because we're going to talk about it. And it's a new brand. And I never saw that cock she thing on a pair of hose. And actually, I've actually gotten more into it.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But I get those and I'm like, I need to try these on. She's like, go try them on. So I try them on. It's just me and her that weekend at home. And I'm getting in the bathroom, I'm putting them on. I'm like, oh, fuck you put a cock in this sheath. And I'm like, my balls. I'm like, let me put my balls in the sheath.
Starting point is 00:43:05 You almost smash. And I'm trying to, like, figure it out because it's not like a Lego set. You know, you're just trying to shove your dick in the sheet. And at the same time, I'm like, God damn, I'm getting hard doing this. And I come out. And she's wearing thigh eyes, lingerie. And she's like, you look amazing. And I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Who did I? get. I'm like unicorn jackpot right here. Yeah. And she was like, I want to have sex with that. And I was like, are we sure? And she's like, actually, she's like, I researched you. She said, we just need a lube up big time. And she said, we'll go from there. So we actually fucked through the cock sheath. You're kidding. So she had this all planned. She had this all planned out. I mean, like, I need to talk to her. Yeah. I actually asked her. I was like, I'll be on this. And she was like, okay, I was like, you want to. She's like, Not yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Well, if she ever wants to come on, I'd love to have her on. So, so it was weird because we're sitting there and like sex and it was completely different. Because like I got that feeling of like when I was a younger kid, like jerking off into the penny hose sock, but also like the wetness of the pussy. And it was like, it was like the most amazing bliss ever. And she is one that she is in love with coming inside of her. And she's just like, you know, we're doing it. And she's just like, you better come through me through those panty hose. I better fill your come through those panty hose.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And I'm just like, done. Exit scene blast off. And so I love them. I was like, these are amazing. She's like, yeah, she said, I figured you like them. She said, there's actually other brands that have an open cock sheath. So you can wear them all day and then like pull it open and have your cock exposed. So I've actually got a couple of those since then.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Wow. So they're amazing because there's not a lot of male pantyhose out there. And like you said, Robert at Shavings, he has tons of good stuff. So like since then, I told her, I said, there's not a lot of straight male guys out there that wear pantyhose and are cool with it. And she's like, well, what do you want to do? And I was like, I'm going to make an Instagram account. She's like, cool. So I made an Instagram account.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And from there, I've shared a lot of my pictures of my legs, my feet, me out and like hiking, me out doing a, a farm because I we work in a farm I like all thanks pictures of me like in store shopping or like getting tires and it's just like trying to help expose that guys can wear hose anywhere you fucking want you can wear hose or
Starting point is 00:45:38 stockings or panty hose and be okay with it and she loves it she's like fun and actually this week actually for the first time we actually took more pictures together and I actually posted them with me and her on the web on my Instagram. When did you start this Instagram? I started probably
Starting point is 00:45:53 two months ago. It's hard to do. I will admit I think I've got like 300 maybe followers, 400. And then you see like these other guys out there that I know that have tons of them, you know, like the Panyos King, you've interviewed him. Yeah, but he's been doing it for a long
Starting point is 00:46:09 time. He's been doing it forever. And there's a guy named like Nile in Seattle. He's another guy. I think he's right up there with them. They've been doing it forever. So I started this. And it's actually kind of cool because A, I get a lot of guys messaging me that's like, check out my cock, check out my, you know. And so finally, but like on my, like my Instagram is like,
Starting point is 00:46:29 please don't send nudes. Because nothing against seeing a cock and panty hose, but it's just not for me. So we started sharing it and then we actually started talking more and more and we should keep doing this. We should actually make, start sharing our Instagram on this on, on the, you know, the Instagram and share us wearing pantos, share us doing this, you know, make it more open for the public. So she's all about it. She loves it to death. And it's nice that a woman that I had in the past was the complete opposite of now that we have a great sex life. I mean, if we don't have sex two or three times a week, we're both looking at each of like, what's going on? Is there something wrong here?
Starting point is 00:47:06 And it's not like that ho-hum, stick it in and get it off com and be done. It's like that, stick it in me, go to the ass. I'm going to stick this toy in your ass. Because she'll do that. She's been open to that too. She'll be like, she actually bought me one day. She's like, I bought you an ass toy. And I was like, awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:22 you know, let's try it. Yeah. And there's really funny I was like, she's like, but I'm not going to pick you. I'll just, I'll stick this vibrating deal on your ass and you can fuck me all you want. And you can stick your dick in my ass and put that toy in my pussy and it'll be like we're both plugged. And that's amazing to me. And it's great. But every time she's always like, do not come in my, she's like you, she just loves it.
Starting point is 00:47:46 She's like, you always need to come in my pussy. I'm like, or wrong, you know. Did you ever play, have any anal action before? her by yourself or was she the first girl that turned you on to it the actually the actually like you always hear about it you're like oh come on just to spit it out so yeah so many guys I would I mean come on you know I stuck my fingers in my ass I mass I massed and stuff like that it felt good it was different and then actually after when I live on myself between the two girls actually I actually would I actually went and bought me a toy also and and I fuck it was great and like I would I would
Starting point is 00:48:22 put some panty hose on or some stockings, you know, and stick, you know, a toy of my ass and sit there and just jerk off. And then get done. And then I would be like, I don't stake these off, you know, like, so I would sit around the house. I would sit there, you know, and watch a movie with my feet up and a pair of thigh high stockings. And I like the layering. I don't know if you've ever done that. I've tried it. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:48:45 But explain. It's tight. But I love wearing like a pair of, I've done it before, like a pair of thigh highs. and then putting a pair of panty hose over it or vice versa. And it is just so much more compression or even putting fishnets on and then putting the panty hose on over that. Well, you need to, listen, I'm sorry, I keep interrupting you a lot on this. We're going to be so annoyed, but I don't give a fuck. I'm having a conversation.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Listen, I'm doing, now that you're going to be a member of my Patreon, I'm going to give you free access. There's a whole contest going on, and I think the winner wins like $150. Plus, they're going to get some of the shaping stuff that he sent me for guys. and you just got to send in a picture of you from the waist down wearing hose. And, you know, Melanie, who is like the hottest girl who wears hose on the fucking planet on Instagram and she calls into my Patreon all the time, she called in and she gave a whole bunch of poses and information. And she talks a lot about layering and the shine you get and the kinds to use. And there's all that information. So you've got to join the contest. Awesome. I will do that. Yeah. Actually, it's funny. Like, I remember like when I was by myself before the two girls, I'd actually, when the ex moved away, she left everything. She left all of her stockings,
Starting point is 00:49:54 all her panty house, all the hills I bought her, all the toys I bought her. And I was like, fuck yeah. Like all this stuff that I wanted. So I remember like sitting around and like, to this,
Starting point is 00:50:04 I don't do it now because I actually talk to the wife now. And she's like, don't wear the heels. I don't like the hills. I'm not attracted to the hills. You know, and I'm like, cool, that's your thing.
Starting point is 00:50:13 But I have worn the hills before. I've worn the hills, the panty house, the stockings. And you feel amazing. But then I also noticed. you women go through a lot that fucking hurts your feet after a while
Starting point is 00:50:24 if they're not the right size but they make your legs look amazing and yeah no totally what are your favorite brands and stuff and like how big is your stash and do you guys share stuff we don't really share stuff she has her own stuff I have my own stuff that's always been in our own thing if you went the panties like I have my panties
Starting point is 00:50:40 she has her panties but like I know snack tights are amazing especially for a guy because it's hard they're hard to tear they're like they're still sheer But most are like 20, didn't you? You know, and then like 50. I think snags are like 30.
Starting point is 00:50:55 They're a little more thicker, but they're still that shine. And like they're made for the more curvy woman on their website, they say. But for a dude, it's awesome because it gives you a little bit more packaging in the front. So your dick's not smashed into your, you know, into your belly button. Yeah. Sony Panda. She is an amazing person. She's actually one of the people out there that I followed originally because she is,
Starting point is 00:51:19 I don't want to say one of the frontrunners, but like her and Robert, they like kind of pushed that. Screw the normalities. Screw the genders. Listen, I had another woman on my show who started a company,
Starting point is 00:51:30 LeBels. That's actually about the pool up next. Yeah, well, she was on my show and listen, anyone that opens up a hosiery brand understands very early on that men are a big part of their sales.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So they get on it. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. And like there's a couple of companies out there like it's it sounds like i mean like wolford and like from rachel and like i think it's 422 is another one out there looks like those three i have not tried and like everybody talks about wolford everybody else you know like that's the thing and it's really sad like i can't bring myself to spend $40 on a pair of hose that like i may go fuck up and tear you know that's why i like
Starting point is 00:52:07 the more of the labella's the sonies the snacks because they actually have a little more thicker resistance because i'm a guy you know i'm i'm gonna go out i'm gonna wear my panty hose and I'm going to go drive a tractor. There's a picture of me, I think, on my Instagram. How do you keep them from running? Well, A, I'm careful, but buy a little more thicker denier and just be a little more cautious to it. But you're always going to have that.
Starting point is 00:52:32 You're always going to have that one tear. But, I mean, and that, and like I said, I've gone through so many pantyhose with the wife because, you know, I'll be wearing and, like, we'll come home and we just start getting into it. And my favorite thing to do is just, and she loves it too, it's just. tear the front out of the panios and my cot just comes out and then we fuck i'm wearing panty hose she's wearing the panty hose our legs are wrapped around each other and it's that nylon on nylon feeling and it's the best and we've gone through i don't know how many pairs of panos like for a while
Starting point is 00:53:04 we were like we need to like start buying a little more lower brand if we're going to have so much sex in these because you're tearing the ass out of them you're turning the pussy out of them and that's like one of my favorite things and she loves it she'll be laying there and i'll just go down on her. It's like that ripping sale. It's almost primal. You know? And she loves it. I love it. And it's,
Starting point is 00:53:27 it's just amazing. And I just sit there. Sometimes I sit back and I'm like, how did I find this girl? How did I find this woman? And I mean, I'm sure there's more women out there, but I think also there a lot of the guys out there are afraid of bring it up to their woman. Because look how your first wife
Starting point is 00:53:43 reacted. Yeah, exactly. You have the consequences. But I mean, all you can do is, mean, bring it up. If she says no, then you go, okay, cool. You go, no, no, no, that's not how it goes. You got to work at it. It takes time. Listen, the last thing guys want to do, I get it, is fucking have tons of conversations
Starting point is 00:53:59 with their girls. Guys just aren't wired like girls. We love to talk and have conversations. Yes. But guys aren't like that. I get it. So I think the worst, the last thing a guy wants to do is educate his girl on the fetish 80,000 times.
Starting point is 00:54:10 But that's what you might have to do. And it takes a little work. But, like, really what you get out of that is like a partner that is, maybe, you know, accepting and also going to participate in your fetish, and that can completely change the game. I mean, you've lived both lives. You lived a life with a woman who is very anti it, and you're living a life on the opposite end of a spectrum where it's like your girl's like as into it, if not more than you are. She's coming up with tips and tricks to try. You know, you're very lucky. You went from one end to the other. And so, you know, of course it's going to be
Starting point is 00:54:42 10 times better of being with a partner that is into it. Exactly. And there's like, times like this last week it was raining big time here and like when it's rain you know we're not really outside so i went home and she was off work and it was funny like we were sitting there and she's like hey you want to go lay down bed and cuddle and i was like cool and it was like just lay down cuddle rainy day read and i get there and she's like why aren't you wearing pantyos today i was like well i just i didn't put it on this point i was running late and she's like oh you should go put some on now it feels weird so it was weird like she knew that i didn't have any on And it was like, you need to go put your pantyhows on if we're going to cuddle because I like the feeling of them on your legs.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And it's a lot of the guys out there who wear panty hose I've noticed shaved their legs. I don't. My, she does not want my leg shaped. She's like, I like the manliness of your legs. I like the manliness of the hair on your legs. And don't shave. She said, I don't care if it looks weird. If it looks smash.
Starting point is 00:55:36 She said, I like the feeling of your legs. I like feeling of the hair on your legs, the look of it. She said, you still have the manliness, but also the. I guess she would say the feminality of it to be cuddly, but also manly. Yeah. So I'm blasted. And it's really funny. Like I posted a lot of some pictures of that.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And people are like, you need to shave your legs. You need to shave your legs. And I want to be like, you know what? I have a woman who will sit there and crawl on top of me and just go out at it why I'm wearing panty hose. And if she doesn't want my leg shaved, she ain't get my leg shaved because she's the one that's important. She's the one that she's the one helping push my fetish. She's the one helping push my love of sexuality where I'm at, where we're at. And I'm not going to compromise that over having a shaved leg.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yeah, no hoser would disagree with that once they found out the real story. But let me just tell you that what does help in those situations, because most people don't want to see hairy legs underneath hose. I'll tell you that. No. When you do the contest, that might not be like the best pick because of the hairy legs. And so what people do, a lot of guys who are on the DL and stuff, is that's the, when layering comes into play. You don't see it.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Nope, exactly. The layering and... And I get why your girl doesn't want you to. You know, that's her choice. And like you said, you got a fucking maid. Why would you care? But if you want that to not be in the picture or sometimes, you know, double up. That's what other hosers do.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Yeah, exactly. And like I said, I mean, I've doubled up a lot. And I want to say also, like, Halloween's coming up. And if you're like, you're a guy out there and you're a hoser and you want to wear a panty hose, but you don't want to bring up to your wife. now's the perfect time. I mean, well,
Starting point is 00:57:16 I think a lot of cross-dressers and hosers and, you know, I take Halloween as a time to wear what they want. Like they're, you know, they're a superhero so they can wear a hose or they're like a chick, a cheerleader so they could cross-dress.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I mean, you know, that's a very typical thing. I think everyone should be a little leery of any guy that dresses like that. You know what I'm saying. But I'm saying like, if that guy's out there and he wants to,
Starting point is 00:57:40 like, bring up to his wife, he can be like, these actually feel amazing. But yeah, that's the whole other. I mean, some of those genres, I will admit, are I'm a little leery of. But this is, I love it. I mean, I can't be more blessed. I will, in a weird way. I mean, fuck. I mean, I don't know how many guys out there, I actually get to wear panty hose, sexy panties, and have a wife that's like, hell yeah. You're my man. And it's just fabric. Yeah. No, it's not even just, I don't think you either, saying it like that sounds like she's just very accepting of it. She's actually
Starting point is 00:58:12 into it, which is like taking it to another level, which is makes you doubly lucky. It would be great for most hosers to have a girl who just actually accepts it and is fine with it and is like, that's fine, you know? But your girl is like extra great because she actually really loves it. And that's what's killer. And you know, I got to tell you, and I'm going to wrap it up because I have to, I have a call at 12. No, you're good.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But this is the deal. You're going to get free access not only to my Patreon, but also to my Discord. And there's two Discord channels in there, one where you could post picks of you wearing hos and all that stuff. But then there's like a channel for a guy. who just like women in Hose, and you should put some of the pictures of your girl up there and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Hosers will fucking love it. And you could advertise. Put your Instagram in your, you can't put links in my Discord in the public channels because I was getting spammed and stuff. But put your link to your Instagram to get followers in your description.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And also give a shout out right now to your Instagram, and I'll put it in the description in the podcast episode so that you'll get people. Yeah, my Instagram actually is at Panty Ho's husband. Oh, I love it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah, it was like the most easiest. Yeah, I wasn't going to do like the whole random genre of stuff. Like I'm like, I'm going to go straight for what. And actually, we talked about us. I'm like, she's like, we talked about the name. I said, I'm going to go Panyos husband. It tells exactly what I am. I'm a Panyos husband.
Starting point is 00:59:25 There's actually, yeah. So I will put that in the description and do me a favor and send me some pictures for my Patreon. I will. And then what will happen is you will, like I said, get a free link to my Patreon. And then you'll get a free link to my Discord. And you could go over there. And I think people are going to love your. discord if you have pictures of her and you up.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yes, we will keep sharing and I will keep sharing and I appreciate this. Oh, I think I, I think I can. I think it'd be amazing you get us both on there. Well, no, I would love to get her solo, no offense, because I want to talk, everyone wants to hear from the girl who was so open and so down for panty hose and to hear her explain the story from her side and talk about you without you on the call is like super I mean, I've done it before with cross-dresser wives. I just think it's like we already got your whole story. I think she needs to be on if she's going to come on solo, it's perfect. You know, and then we can have you guys on together in the future for Patreon and stuff. I do exclusive episodes. Do what we need to do. Okay. So just so you know when you join Patreon, there's, I do an exclusive episode there every month. So there's probably like 50 extra episodes there that you can never hear anywhere else. Hoser ones. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Have fun over there. You'll get the link to Patreon when you hang up or I'll email it to you because it's not going to be in the email. And then you'll also, oh no, you'll get access to the Discord, actually, in the email you get, and you could go in there and sign up. And your episode will be out tomorrow. So send me the pictures ASAP, okay? I'll send them to you, let me get back, let me get to my office, and I'll send them to you right now. Just email them to you, or do you want them on through the Instagram? No, no, no, email them to me. Email. Yeah. Can't do. All right. Awesome. Thanks, thanks so much for your confer. Thank you. Get your girl to call in. Okay, we'll do. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book,
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