Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1254 – Mike Has a Wife and Four Girlfriends?!

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Mike has a wife and four girlfriends and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and why he’s always identified as poly, how and when him and his wife opened their relationship and when they started having other partners, when he realized he was gender fluid,  the girlfriend his wife had and the issues it caused, how and why they live with almost no rules but the only boundary they do have, the sex parties he goes to and what goes down there, the fivesome he’s been in and what went down, what he loves about being restrained, why he enjoys women squirting and men cumming on him, the forced bi scenes he’s done with a dominatrix, the guy-on-guy action he’s had at adult theaters and glory holes, the girlfriend he has who’s married with a husband and trans partner and what goes down between all of them and how his wife sometimes joins in, how jealousy and boundaries play out, how and why his poly life actually works for him plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2532-anonymous⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use my promo code STRICTLY at checkout to get 30% off sitewide ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order To get $15 OFF your female oxytocin arousal tablets and more, use code STRICTLY here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you have an interesting, naughty true life story that you want to tell, that you want to talk about on my show, send me an email, strictly anonymous podcast.com. Or go to my website, strictly anonymouspodcast.com and click on be on the show. If you have a naughty confession that you want to leave on my confessions hotline, you could call the confessions hotline. [phone]. I'm whizzing through this, but all of the information's in the description. Anyway, you could call that number 24-7. Just make sure you're not driving. even though nobody listens to that. Be in a quiet place when you leave your message. Some of those confessions, make it onto a confessions episode. The rest go on my Patreon. My Patreon has a super fun place. I have 2,500 people over there. It's a very active community.

And that's where I respond to people, talk to people. And what's great about my Patreon is you get access to all of the picks, the hot picks of all of my guests. You want to put a body to any episode of any girl. I would probably say maybe three of them in all of my years of podcasting. haven't sent in pics. All those picks are over on my Patreon. You get Q&As that I do every other month. You get all the episodes early ad free and beginning free. Like I don't add this to my Patreon episode. So if you're annoyed by this, like people are, just go to my Patreon. It's only $7 a month.

I give you 36 episodes a week. Do the math. Math. It's not even a dollar an episode that you would be paying for. I think it's totally worth it. It's super fun. And I also throw in complimentary access to my private discord. My discord is the best. Okay, not one person has ever complained. People are blown away by it when they join. I have thousands of people on there. And I throw that access in complimentary to anyone who joins my Patreon as well as anyone who buys my book. Now, my book was supposed to come out on October 14th, but the date was pushed. I got my big box of books in recently and I was horrified. They were printed all wrong. There was a lot of mistakes made. It was a total F up mistake. You know, mistakes happen. Shit happened. Things.

Thank God my publishers, like, okay, we're going to reprint all of these, and we change the date. It is now coming out in October, December 2nd. I'm happy because I didn't want you to get the bad printed books. I saw them. They were horrifying to me. So you still have time to pre-order my book. It's also going to be available in an e-book format. It's on Amazon right now.

There'll also be an audiobook available when it's closer to the date that it comes out. If you purchase any of those options as well as sign up for my Patreon, you will get access to my private discord. It is private. You can't get into it any other way. I give complimentary access to people who do these kinds of things or listeners of my show because that's the way I vet everybody in there and create a great community. My Discord is fun of cool fucking people like you who listen to my show. So if you want to get access to my Discord, do any of the things I just said. All the links are in the description. If you want to sign up for the best adult website, it is SDC. I love SDC. I'm not on there, but like everyone of my guests who talk about meeting people. and hooking up and learning about the lifestyle, they started at SDC. It is the world's largest adult website. What's great about SDC, it's just a place where you can meet people.

It's a place where you could also learn about all the shit in your area. Or if you want to play on vacation, you can learn about what's going on over there. I have a free trial that I could offer my listeners. All you got to do is use code 37712 on SDC.com or just go to the description and click on the link. okay today I have on Mike Mike called in he's very

Paul he's got a primary partner which is his wife he's been with her for very many years and then he also has like four other girlfriends oh my god and every one of those girlfriends has a whole thing going on like one girlfriend has a husband and a trans person that they're in a thruple with and they've had a five sum and then

he had a six some with like five girls and him and sometimes his wife is included and sometimes she's not and he's into guys and he goes to like glory holes and he's very free his wife is very open. This isn't like the typical open relationship where there was like any kind of rules or regulations. This is a very different vibe.

Poly people tend to roll very different than like swingers and stuff. It's always like hard for me to get wrap my head around their situations and get their origin story. Like I get it from somebody else because it's not like a straight line. It's much more open. So you might be just as confused as I am. I don't know. It's always hard for me to get like this story from a polyprop. person. And so you'll hear me struggling in the beginning, but I still am getting a story and it is

super interesting. At first, like I said, it starts out a big confusing, but then it becomes more clear and it's a super interesting setup that works. It's worked for a very long time for him and his wife. It's interesting the way that it's set up. There's a lot of players in this story. He's got a lot of sack that's going down. He talks all about it. So anyway, I'm going to get right to and be right back on with Mike. Hi, Mike. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Good. Thanks for having me. Thanks for calling in. Now listen, Mike, I was looking over your little thing that you wrote in just to give me a heads up of what we're talking about. And I got confused just reading it, okay? Because I was like, whoa, okay? And I'm going to read it because I don't know how to sum it up real quick.

It's this, you know, me and my wife have always been open. But since my 50th birthday, I have found myself dating three people plus or one time all five of us, meaning the three girls that you're dating plus your wife all got together. plus one of my girlfriends has a husband, a girlfriend, and a boyfriend who play with us sometimes. Oh, man, God, I'm confused. Another girlfriend is a part of a couple I play with. My other girlfriend has a lot of other lovers I haven't met yet. Okay, so this is like one of those Polly situations? Is this a Polly deal with you or D's just like fuck buddies on the side? Because I feel like those are two different stories.

Oh, this is a Polly deal. Like, I've had fuck buddies in the past, but that's different. Okay. I didn't just talk to you the other day and tape with you the same story. this isn't the same person I talked to last week. Who did I talk to last week? That had a whole Polly situation. That's not you.

You didn't call twice, right? No. No, it's not me. Oh my God. You're not going to even believe it. You almost sound like him too. Okay. And it's funny, but he's younger, you know, so I expect it more from the younger generation,

all of these, like, relationships and people involved in the relationship. But from a 50-year-old, here you are like, oh, my God, you're, like, rolling, like, the 25-year-olds with all this Polly shit going down. It's really... confuses me, but I love these episodes because I think they're super interesting. Okay, so listen, Mike, tell me something. How long have you and your wife been married? Nine years. Nine years. Okay, first marriage or now? Second marriage. Okay, for the both of you? Yes. Okay. So how did, how and why did you initially even just open up your relationship to begin with? Forget about all the girlfriends and

boyfriends you guys have now. Just like, how did you start in opening it up and why? And when? I think there was like a third or so date that she invited me to do something kinky and she was worried that I'd run out of the room and then I was really excited. What was the thing that she asked you to do? Wear pantyhose and get tied up. Oh, she wanted you. Oh my God. Do you know that I have a whole pantyho's fetish tear on my Patreon because I found out that there's all these guys that love pantyhose. Turns out your girl wanted you to wear pantyos?

Yes. Interesting. I might need to have her on my show. Okay, so she had like this crazy ask, and instead of you being turned off, you were like, turned off. Yeah, I was super excited. And so, and I think also too, like, even though, you know, my gender's a little fluid, but most places represent as a man and she's a woman, like, I think also like we were both kind of done with straight people, and that was a part of us getting together as knowing that. Were you Polly before her? Yes. With your ex-wife?

With my ex-wife, it was kind of complicated. With my ex-wife, I told her the first date that I was Polly and that I wasn't offering monogamy. I told her that when we got engaged, but it kind of became a thing. She made it kind of this thing that was my thing that I brought up. Well, sounds like you did. Yeah. Well, maybe she wasn't into it. Maybe she wasn't into it. Maybe she wasn't into it. Yeah, of course. That makes sense. So how have you always, I mean, you're 50-year-old man now, but like, have you always known that you're Polly? And what does Polly mean to you? Well, I mean, you know, I have a rant that I give, especially if I'm like coming out to someone is that I don't really think it's a binary, right? Like somebody's most heteronormative grandparents, maybe like he spends a lot of time with his model trains in the basement. Maybe she flirts with the milkman, even though they haven't kissed ever anyone else in 50 years. there's still energy inside and outside the relationship. But in contrast, you know, I lived, I lived in a collective house and one of the rooms

there was this couple and like she was dating a woman across the street and he was dating another woman across street and then one of them left that situation and then they became a thruple. What does this have to do with you? Why do Polly people always confuse me even in just the way that they talk? It's like you just, you people are just confusing. I don't know. What does this have to do with how you always knew you were Polly? Well, I mean, I think I, my point is that like,

Polly people still have boundaries. No, no, I'm not talking. Listen, I could get in a whole discussion with you with Polly people because you just made, you just threw a sentence in before that you think it's binary and, you know, someone might flirt with the mailman and you think that's Polly. But like, you know, I could go off on that for an hour. I love a good debate. Like, seriously.

And I love those bigger picture topics. But we, I want to stay focused on you because I want to get your whole story. and you have all these like people in the story. So I'm just trying to hone in on. Just answer the question. Like when did you know you were Polly and what did that mean to you? Did you just know since you were day one? You didn't want to date one person and you wanted to love more than one person.

Like what's the deal? My first sexual experience when I was like 15 was a group of women that surrounded me in a movie theater. Okay. And we're kind of rough with me. And I got overwhelmed at the time. Like kind of got a little rough with me. wanted me to whip it out and stuff. But stopped when I got overwhelmed, but I think that really set my arousal pattern. Yeah. And then I just have been around Polly people a lot.

So you tried Polly with people before this wife, right? Like you tried it with your first wife. It sounds like right out of the get-go you were like with multiple people your whole life, right? Okay. So never really monogamous with one person. Well, I've been monogamous here and there, but I would I've been more polly than monogamous. Right. Now, there is a difference to me between having an open relationship in mind of fuck other people and being

poly. You mean being poly like you are in love with other people. I just want to make sure we're still on that same page. Yes. Okay. So you meet, let's just get to this girl because I want to get all the stories of all the girlfriends you have now. You meet this woman. She's pretty kinky right from the get-go.

And when, what comes after that thing? Because, listen, And her asking you to do things solo in the bedroom, just you and her is one kind of kinky. But, you know, for you guys to go out and fuck other people and have other boyfriends and girlfriends and all that kind of stuff is a whole other kind of kinky. Like when does it sort of turn into that where you guys have an open relationship? I think, I'm not sure the sequence. I remember that she, uh, there's this like kind of joke about like there's this day of May that people say it's international. tell your crush day and she told her crush and then she was dating this other woman and then also

we well no no wait you guys are dating and she was dating other people she was dating other people when she was with you yeah not not not not that far into our relationship she was dating other people okay but when does that conversation come into play i don't know why it's so hard for me to get like the straight answer from you like when do you guys have a discussion about she wants to be polly you want to be Polly, you just knew that you guys were that way, and you said, like, you were always, like, from the get-go knowing that you guys were going to be in an open relationship, maybe that's the answer. Like, it was never going to be a monogamous relationship.

I don't think we ever, yeah, I don't think there was ever that expectation. So you both knew going in. So that kinky first night meant nothing. That was just a par for the course, because you knew you're with an open woman that's going to be having girlfriends and you're going to be having girlfriends. So you guys just went into your relationship knowing that, correct? Yes. Oh my God, okay.

So now, so once you start with her, do you guys decide to have like any kind of rules within your Pauly situation? Like are you guys primary? Like do you, are you guys each other's primary partner and then you have other people or is everyone equal? I mean, there's a lot of different terms in even within Polly. There was a period where she had a girlfriend that we had some tension about. How come? And where we had trouble. I think partly because she and I did not get along.

like I don't need to date people that my wife's dating, but I do want to like them as people. But I do want to like connect to them in some way, you know. Well, let me ask you how this whole situation works. Okay, so you guys are together. Now, do you guys live together? You're married at this point? Let's get to when you're married. Do you get married early on?

We got married about two years after we met. Okay. So you're married. you're both like open and like hooking up with other people looking for potential other partners, correct? From the gecko. Yes. But I do want to like connect to them in some way, you know. Well, let me ask you how this whole situation, how your Polly situation works.

Okay. So you guys are together. Now, do you guys live together? You're married at this point? Let's get to when you're married. Do you get married early on? We got married about two years after we met. Okay.

So you're married. She's, you're both. like open and like hooking up with other people looking for potential other partners, correct? From the get-go. Yes. Okay. Do you look for guys and girls? You said you were kind of fluid.

Yes. Okay. You date men and women. Yes. Okay. And you've always known your sexually fluid since the dawn of time. Like always, you always have been into guys and girls? No.

It was something that I was conscious of when I was younger and then I kind of had a, I kind of buried it for quite a while and that kind of like came back. Like probably, probably in my late 20s it kind of came back. So there was about 10 years that I thought I was straight. Okay, but by the time you get with your girl, you've already been there done that with guys, right? And you've been with guys and everything.

Are you, right? Yes. Yes. And you knew that you're not only like to suck a dick every now. Then you also wanted to, like, date a man and you could feel romantic for a man. Because I think that those are two totally different things. Yeah, I have not been as in many. I've been more sexual with men and I have not been in a lot of relationships with men.

I think I've only had one man that I thought was like my boyfriend. Okay. You know, and then it's more been sex with men, but, you know, I'm not opposed to it. I get it. You're open. You're open. Like, if the right guy came around, you never know. It's not like you're saying, no, but you just have, you found more women that you were romantically compatible with.

with so far than men. That makes sense. You know, it's hard for me to find a man I like romantically too. You know what I mean? Slim Pickens. I'm just joking. Right.

Yeah. Like men are not socialized to be good at romance. You know what I'm saying? I got it. I got it. It would make sense. Okay. So now,

and you know going in that your girl is also into checks, right? Like she's also fluid? Yes. Okay. So she's like slightly genderqueer. She's not as fluid. fluid as I am. Okay, but she likes to hook up with women, obviously, and she has some girlfriends.

Yes. Okay. So you guys start having girlfriends right from the beginning. Both of you had your own girlfriends. Did you get into the, did you come into the relationship with other partners, or did you, acquire them as you went along? I think she had a girlfriend first. Okay.

And I was kind of going to play parties, and I was like fucking around, but I wasn't dating anybody for a while. Mm-hmm. Now, let me ask you this. it sounds like you guys are so free and open. And I think sometimes in situations like this, there's no real needs for, need for rules or regulations because you guys are just like a different breed. But like I wonder, because you guys are like right from the get go very open. It sounds like playing solo a lot, right? Like I'm going, you're saying I'm going to play parties,

which means you're going solo and she's got a girlfriend, which means she's, you know, having a relationship someplace else without you. Were there any rules or anything between. the two of you because those kinds of things can fuck up a relationship sometimes you never know i mean with one girlfriend that i there was tension around there was tension around kind of scheduling and what you know i think what the one girlfriend so like her time with my wife was so limited right and that was hard for her but then when you're married with someone when you're living with someone, so much of your time is just keeping the household running and then falling asleep that I felt like I didn't get my share of quality time. Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah,

these are the kinds of things that I think would naturally come up in these kinds of situations, especially eventually you have four different girlfriends or three, you know what I mean? Like, and you just wonder, and I think that that can create a problem. If you don't have some kind of boundaries or rule set or guidelines to follow, so to make sure that that doesn't, you know, doesn't create, that kind of stuff over time, if left unattended, doesn't cause a divide in your relationship with your primary partner. I mean, and so you were like feeling it. Like, you know what, this doesn't feel right. So you spoke up. Oh, I also have PTSD, so I sometimes can't access my feelings in the moment. Oh, my God. What is, so you don't remember, so like you're saying like

it was like anything kind of that wasn't, that was negative. You don't have that much access to it. Is that what happens to you because of your PTSD? That's kind of interesting. It's more like, hey, do you mind if I go on this trip? And I wouldn't be able to like know if I was okay with it in the moment. So I had to ask for a few days. No, I don't understand. What the fuck are you talking about?

Are we talking about trips? Okay. You can't understand. I'm asking you about your feelings with your relationship. And you're saying it's hard for you to access them because you have PTSD. That's just how you roll. It's hard for you to remember. So how that played out is I would get.

asked if I was okay with her being away with her girlfriend on a trip and I wouldn't know right away and then I have feelings a few days after so we got to a point where oh that makes sense like yeah listen I think a lot of people are like that it's a problem yeah so like I would say I need a few days like when you ask me I need a few days to connect to my feelings about it yeah listen know thyself is like my favorite saying and it sounds so easy but it's not but it's like amazing that you know that about yourself so you could tell your partner hey listen like this is how I roll. I don't know. I'm not going to be aware of my feelings today, but three days from now, I might have some feelings. So check back with me then, right? It goes a long way to be able to tell her

that. So she understands that about you. Yeah, which is cool. Yeah. I don't know that we have hard and fast rules. I think we have like some clarity on what what we have to talk about and what we don't have to talk about. I don't have to tell her like every sexual thing I do. Mostly because like, It was just like if you stop at the adult bookstore on the way home, I don't really need to know that at the moment. I think we're good at talking about it. I think it's good at like kind of being part of our pillow talk. You know, sometimes I'm nervous about if I've gone outside the lines and I, you know, but I'm able to ask and I get reassured and that feels really nice. That's always a big relief.

Yeah, because it doesn't sound like you drew any lines. And that's why like lines are great to like, you know, keep track of. or have set in place so that you don't have to worry if you crossed it because you know them ahead of time. Yeah. You don't know what I'm saying? But it doesn't sound like you guys created them and it does sound like you're very free. But listen, you've been with your girl for what 15 years.

Is that what you said? 11. 11. Okay, but that's a long time. So obviously you, because you've been doing this from the get-go, you guys have been successful at it. And like I said, it seems like it's very open and free and without any lines. But it seems like you must have such great communication that when it something does

come up, you guys can talk about it and do talk about it, obviously. I think there's like a red line about canceling plans or being really, really late for plans. With each other for the other person, for the other, another person out of the, yeah, so you guys kind of are primary, right? Like, I've learned that some poly people, everyone's equal and some people probably people roll like, you know, their partner, their one partner, their initial partner is the primary partner and everybody is like secondary. I mean she also like when I started dating always affirmed that I am your wife you know

And then I'm primary and I'm okay with that. Yes. Okay. So now when do all your girlfriends come into play and has she always been okay? I know that there was one girlfriend that you had a problem with because you didn't like now. Was she always very okay with all of your girlfriend especially when you got like all of these together? Like you got like a lot of them rolling at one time? I think she goes through a period of getting to know them. So like the one who lives in a place that's just, you know, a little racist and transphobic. Not that the girlfriend is. And it freaked her out that I had kind of gone off with this person I had just met. But once she gets to know people,

there's definitely like she feels much better once she gets to know people. So she'll listen. That makes sense. She's a little protective over like who you're going to be with. And she wants to understand who they are too. I would understand. Like, you know, that makes total sense. And it's not like, you know, they have that saying,

keep your enemies close or close or whatever. Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. And not that these women are enemies, but she'd be a fool not to fucking do her homework on who these other women are. Do you know what I mean? And wouldn't, aren't you the same way? Don't you want to know who the fuck these people are that she's dating? Does she ever date guys?

She's dating somebody who's kind of transmasculine right now. Yeah, she sometimes dates guys. Okay. you guys just say this is so funny to me this kind of stuff it's I don't know why it's so confusing to me but it is but I think like you know what is the appeal of this kind of relationship is it that it's this is what I came to the conclusion I talked to a girl recently that was doing all this and I was like oh my god it's so confusing but then I realized oh maybe you're just so like intelligent and you have like such a mind that is like so intense that like all of this confusion just like helps keep you grounded and like helps you not be bored right like maybe you'd be so fucking bored in a row regular relationship. Though this sounds so exhausting to me, what I think is that this is exactly like what people like you and like your girl or probably people are wired for. Anything else would be like wouldn't feel correct. Yeah, we both have pretty bad ADHD and I didn't get treated until like last year. No. Did the treatment work? I think I have ADHD. That's why I can't

fucking understand you too. We got two ADHDs on here. I was never labeled either. I don't think any of us were back in the day. They just, you know, but wait, so did the medication work? It's getting better. I'm in that phase of treatment where I am, it almost feels like it's getting worse. But the reason it feels like that is because I'm noticing it. Oh, because you're becoming more focused enough to notice it. So maybe you're not as ADHD.

You're so on ADHD that you could actually notice your slight ADHD, whereas before you were so ADHD, ADHD you couldn't even fucking notice it. That's how ADHD I am. I can explain that whole thing. Yeah. That's correct. Yeah. So I think we crave kind of stimulation and dopamine.

Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I get it. Okay. So let's get to like all the like you go to play parties and sex. Like what is all the kind of sex that's going down with all these people? Like does somebody kind of give you a little bit different than somebody yet?

Like is everyone giving you something different or they all very vanilla? Are you going to sex clubs with these people? Like what kind of things are you doing with all these people, including your wife? So, you know, my wife doesn't play out as much as possible. I think the girlfriend that was kind of difficult after that, she got really focused on like kind of other things in her life. But that also sometimes pulled her away from a bit. Like, you know, there was certain...

I asked about the sex. I asked about the sex. Like, what's going down sex really? No, no. But there was times that she wasn't available that I was like filling that time. Oh, you mean she wasn't available for sex with you? Or not even just sex, like, but she's just not, you know, she's doing other things and she's not around. And so I feel that time often with dating and sex.

With other people. With other people. You know, like I go to play parties. You know, like on a weekend, if we're off on a weekend, we might, you know, have a night together and a night separate. Right, because she doesn't want to go out, but you do or something like that. It's like you're just free to do what you want to do. And even if it doesn't align, you guys are okay with it. Like you could just do whatever you want to do without the other person.

And she kind of was taking a break from seeing people seriously for a while, but she's kind of coming out of that now. Okay, guys, now you're going to thank me later for this because I'm going to tell you a place where you could go and learn how to give your girl the best oral sex ever. Now, even if you think that you give great oral sex when you go down on your girl, I am telling you you need to take the Cunnelingest course over on beducated.com because you are going to learn 10 new moves

that are going to blow your girl's mind, okay? Like literally any oral sex is good, but amazing oral sex is like top of the mountain for me. And on beducated, beducated.com, which is like the Netflix of sex education, they have courses on everything that has to do with sex over there. Their course, the cunnelingist course, will teach you 10 new moves.

Ones I promise you you're not going to know, okay, but they're going to blow your girl's mind. And the great thing about Beducated is when you take that course, you're going to see conalinius in action so you know exactly what you're doing. There is an explicit video there that's going to walk you through it. And I personally think that's the best way to learn is by actually seeing it in action. Okay, you're not just going to hear about what to do and all these 10 new moves. you're going to see it. So what are you waiting for?

Do your girl a favor and take the kundalinguish course over at Beducated. And then she could take some classes over at Beducated.com because they have classes on oral sex for guys too, as well as so many other courses. And they also offer risk-free money-back guarantee for 15 days so you really have nothing to lose. And for listeners of my show, Bejicated is offering 50% off their yearly pass. All you got to do is go to the description, click on the link and use my code anonymous. and you're going to get 50% off the yearly pass. Just use my code anonymous after clicking on the link in the description to get 50% off

plus the 14-day money-back guarantee. Okay, guys, have you ever had like one of those days or nights or mornings where you just can't get it up or you're afraid you might not be able to get it up? I can imagine that's like every guy's big is fair. Well, now you don't have to have that fear because Blue Chew is here. Blue Chew is a unique online service that delivers chewable tablets made for better sex. And the good news is Blue Chew is super easy to sign up for. Everything is done online, even the prescription.

All you got to do is sign up at bluechew.com. You're going to consult with one of their licensed medical providers. And once you're approved, you're going to receive your prescription right to your door in a discreet package. You don't have to go to your doctor's office and you don't have to wait in line at the pharmacy. Now, listen, I know Blue Chew works because not only does my brother use it always and swears by it, one of my listeners told me that when he takes a Blue Chew tablet, his erections make him feel like he's 19 again. And that is a direct quote. Okay.

So what are you waiting for? Go check out Blue Chew. And I've got a special deal for my listeners, as always. you get your first month of Bluetooth free. Just use promo code strictly anon at checkout and pay five bucks for shipping. That's it. Join Bluetooth's mission to upgrade humanity one thrust at a time. Head to Bluetooth.com for details and safety info.

And big thanks to Bluetooth for sponsoring the podcast. It's free to do what you want to do. And even if it doesn't align, you guys are okay with it. Like you could just do whatever you want to do without the other person. And she kind of was taking a break from seeing people seriously for a while, but she's kind of coming out of that now. Now, did she ever get jealous, like, when she's going through, like, these dry spells where she has nobody and you got, like, you're rolling with, like, three girls deep? I think one thing that happened early on in, like, dating the person I met, like, kind of in the spring was that she gets upset if I canceled plans. with her or if I fail to make plans with her. And I've learned that I can't have too many transitions

in a day. What does transitions mean? So if I'm hanging out with someone, I need to like just not have anything that's happening later because I need to just focus on the moment and focus on what we're doing and not be like have to leave for something else. She with her, meaning if you have plans with her, you're not going to be leaving her to go meet a girlfriend. Or vice versa. So like a few months ago, the one I was newly dating, we went to her girlfriend's house

and we're hanging out around her girlfriend's house when the next time. And then she called me out of the blue and offered to go to this play party with me at this space I really like. And she hadn't offered to do that in a while. So I was like, Yeah, because I was excited that she was calling me up and offering to do something.

But then I kind of like was very late because I just kind of got sucked into the vortex of the person's house. And so I've learned like... She comes first. Make plans with somebody. Be there for as long as it is. Don't make two plans in one day. But your wife, but you, like if you would have said no to your wife's plans, that would have been a problem too. Okay.

Sorry. Like, it's not like you could just have your day. not available to your wife if half your day is with somebody else, you're going to tell your wife, sorry, I have no time for you because I have one plans with my other girlfriend. That's what you're saying, roll is, is okay? No, it's just, so, I mean, she might have been okay if I said, you know, I'm already out somewhere and I'm having a good time. Could we make a different plan? Listen, you just shouldn't have been fucking late. Okay. End a story. That's it. She just wants, listen, I get where she's coming from. Like, you know, you're like, she's feeling like rejected because you're like not thinking of her.

It's rude. I feel the same way if my friend's fucking late. I don't care who it is. You know what I mean? It's just like it's not about not scheduling people. It's just being on time. You know what I mean? You should just been on time or thoughtful enough to be like, oh, I'm running late. You don't know what I mean? To not think about somebody, whether it's your wife or your friend while you're out having fun when you made plans with them is just disrespectful of their time. That's it. I don't think it's that too. And I'm just saying like I've figured out that for me to not do that again, I need to plan out. like who I'm, what I'm doing with whom and not have a transition.

Like, if I'm hanging out with someone in the morning, I'm not going to make plans in the afternoon with someone. But, you know, I'm just going to heed your warning and then I need to get some sex stories out of you because this just sounds like a confusing mess. And,

but like, uh, uh, you know, if you have plans with one of your girlfriends in the morning to spend the day and go to brunch and you slipped over a house, like if your wife wants plans with you later that day, I don't think it's going to be great.

If you say, sorry, I can. I can't do transitions. I think when it comes to your wife, you got to transition for her, but nobody else. Okay? Don't you think? Yes.

She's not going to be happy if you can't transition her into a day just because you have plans with one of your other girlfriends for a couple of hours. Don't you think? I think she'd rather get a clear answer of what we're doing. Yeah, I get it. It's hard to get a clear answer from you. I get it because I'm talking to you for 27 minutes. Yeah.

She does want me to prioritize. her and I do prioritize her. Of course, yes, as you should. That's all I'm saying. I understand where she's coming from. I'm a chick. You know what I mean? I know girls, right? I know a girl brain. It's just, it's just, it's not even like jealousy or anything. You know, it has not, one has nothing to do with the other, but it's just, you know, especially if she's not someone that can't prioritize and be on time and all that kind of stuff. So you had like a five-sum recently where everyone was involved? Like, was that a fucking orgy? Like, what happened when you said there's five people involved everyone at once? Yes, it was, it was exciting.

I had wanted that since kind of all these relationships had developed, but it had never quite happened and then it was one person's birthday. And she invited us all over and it was good. And we weren't like kind of going at each other all the time or in the same room.

Like one person just wanted to watch and two people went off and I went off with someone else. But it was fun and we kind of were all together and it felt nice. But like who, like is it all paint the picture. Is it all chicks and you? Are you the only guy there? Or are there other guys there? Like, you know, is it all lesbian action that you're getting to watch? Like, what's

happening? Are you fucking all? Right. I was the only guy there. Oh, my God. Really? And now, are all the women hot that are there? I mean, they're hot. I think they're hot. Yes. And did they all, like, were they all into each other? kind of how things flowed that night is one person just kind of is really you know sometimes feels very sexual and sometimes really just wants to be there and then one of my girlfriends and my wife spent some time and I come and hang and do stuff with them sporadically and then the one that I met in the spring and I kind of just kind of went out of a lot of the time oh interesting so but did you how many of them did you fuck that night?

Oh, do you remember? That night, I fucked my wife and the other one, and then I think I kind of fooled around with one of them, and the other one just wanted to watch that night. Now, what's your favorite thing? I mean, it sounds like you've been to play parties, you know, you've hooked up with guys, your girl, you know, you see her with other girls, you've had threesomes with other women. Like, what is your top of the mountain kind of experience because you kind of have a lot available to you. Like, what do you love when it comes down to, like, the bedroom? What's your

favorite scenario since you've, you kind of been there done that? I really like it when people squirt on me, when women squirt on me, or like, or when guys come on me. Like, I really am into, like, fluids. Like, I get very excited by that. That's interesting. I like being restrained. I'm not one of these rope nerds that you run into where they're like, I'm the most interesting person in the world and I've studied with this. Oh, that's how rope put people are? Yeah, I'm like Velcro. I like being restrained.

The thing that I really like about being restrained and the like about groups is I like kind of not being responsible. Like I like being submissive because I like not being responsible and not in charge of everyone's pleasure, but like, but the people have a good time. Yeah, I got it. And is this what typically, do you typically get to experience that at these play parties that you go to? Yeah, often I do. It's funny, one of my girlfriends has never been, well, they've never played at a play party. Like, they've kind of sat in the social area once with

us. And they're neurotic about that, but I've never had sex alone with her. Like, every time, almost every time we've, like, done anything, like, you know, we're with her. husband and her other partner or or at her girlfriend's house or like using some guy's place because he likes to watch um so i'm like your whole life is a play party parties can be kind of boring like they're very hit or miss yeah your life is a big fat play party but wait so where are these are typically like house parties you're not going to like swingers clubs or anything like that i didn't know it's got a swingers club i usually go to kink clubs that are sex positive.

Yeah, you sound like more of that, like, that vibe. And that's a very different world. That's more so where the people that are into, like, the kink, the poly people and queer people will roll more in that kind of a world than the swinger world. But, you know, there's people who are kinky that are kind of asexual about it. I've definitely always been, like, made sex a part of kink. Yeah. Most of the time.

I used to volunteer for a dominatrix. Oh, interesting. for her forced by scenes or I'd be in her content. Oh, so you like the forced by scenes. You'd be the guy she'd bring in for her, like her people she was doming, her subs? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, no, I really like that.

I really like kind of someone taking control a little bit of degradation, but more just anything like the idea of the, I'm not responsible for making things happen. They're just happening. But you get to be a part of it too. Now with guys, are you at top, a bottom, averse? I mostly am like an oral bottom, and then I've gotten my butt trained like only the last few years, but I still struggle with it. Like, guys have to be really small. It's weird because every guy wants to say that his dick is huge, but I want someone small. Exactly.

And is that hard to find? Yeah, it's hard to find. I mean, I think usually it's like I go to a play party or I go to the adult theater and I actually just like find someone who's small enough. Right. Now, let me ask you this because, you know, I don't, if you listen to my show, I mean, when I'm talking like these swingers and these people that are in that world, it's always like so baffling to me how guy and guy action is very, you know, not accepted. In the kink world or these play parties that you go to, is it much more, I'm assuming it's much more. There's no stigma regarding it, and there's plenty of guys that are gender, that are fluid, not gender fluid, that are fluid and open. So, you know, it's very likely that at one of these parties you're going to meet a guy that will play with you.

And there used to be a party that was, like, radically inclusive of by males. Uh-huh. It was open to everyone. But it was radically, and it was a reaction to that, the reaction that you go to a swinger space. and they freak out if you're a bi-p penis owner. Oh, ridiculous, yeah. But they want all the girls to kiss, right? Or even some king spaces are kind of like biophobic a little bit.

So it was just like very much focused on that was the center of it. You know, and it's not that and everyone could attend, right? You know, if you weren't okay with what it was centered around, you should go to a different party. Exactly. But they were welcoming to everybody. I've heard of, I know even swingers that opened and started swingers, clubs and parties and groups that are inclusive to the guy and guy action. And they're also inclusive to trans people, to cross, to anything and everything.

You know what I mean? They don't want to be sort of just like saying no to anybody, you know? And I have a little bit of a fetish for some like spaces where like men have sex with men where like, just because I was unsure of myself for a while. so when someone's a little unsure themselves or a little bit ambivalent or not sure, but like still consenting, I really get off on that. Oh,

you like to take guys virginities? Yeah. Does it like, is it like a projection of you like going back to your first time? Yeah. I get it. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah.

Where do you find those people like, because you have mentioned the adult videos, bookstores, you know, do you go there a lot? Do you frequently go there? Is that where you meet a lot of, like or have a lot of your guy and guy action over there? Yeah, bookstores, adult theaters, bookstores where they have like a video arcade with glory holes.

Uh-huh. And when you say like an oral bottom, does that mean that you want to suck the dick? I want to suck the dick. Yeah. Don't you feel like there's more oral bottoms than there are tops? Yes. Yeah, that's the thing.

By a lot. Yeah, that's the news flash for straight men. There are a lot of oral bottom. men out there. So you want to get a free blowjob. Just be open to that. There's so many guys that just want to suck a dick, but they don't want their dick sucked. Yeah, I'm not, yeah. It's not that I've never enjoyed that, but I don't enjoy it as much. Exactly. Yeah. I get overstimulated fast. Yeah, that's the thing. So you go to the glory hole a lot and, and that's where you, and you'll oral bottom in there. And then, okay, so, and what's the difference between like an adult bookst

or an adult theater? Is it just like one place is like a bookstore with the booths and everything in the theater is just a theater or sometimes they combined? I think in every city it's interesting how there's like a different etiquette. Yeah. Like in the area that I live, there's kind of like different etiquette in every space in an odd way. So, you know, there is an arcade I went to the other weekend where they have glory holes and you have to be running the video.

There's another place that has those booths, but it's just kind of a free-for-all. You just pay admission and people are going at it or not. Often, you know, there's a bath house out where I'm at. Yeah, that's another place. There's a lot of Guy and Guy action there. That's a fun place to go to, I would assume. And then there's a theater.

And so the theater has like the arcade, but also a theater. and then the theater has like a almost like a padded bench in the back like behind the screen where stuff happens and then sometimes and there's also this spa part that I've never been to and like a party room so sometimes there'll be a party in the room

or they'll just have in all facilities like they'll open the whole thing up let me ask you a question and I think I know the answer I mean are these places all the places you mentioned the theaters, the, you know, spas. I know the bathhouse for sure is 100% guy, but are all these places, like, mostly, like, you know,

you're seeing guy-on-guy action with the occasional, like, couple maybe thrown in there every now and then. Is it typically, like, just a lot of guys, hooking up a guys? Yeah, and also some of them have different nights. So there's some, there's a, I would see most spaces like that. It depends on the space. So some spaces are very like cis male specific. They'll be upset if I wear makeup.

And some spaces are not, are just open. Like the adult theater has a lot of straight couples and has a couple's section. Okay. Do you ever go there with your girl? I don't. It's a raunchy place and I like that. But I don't think my wife likes that.

I've gone there with other people who like that. And I probably will go with. Yeah. Listen, I think that's the, that's the great thing that you have, you know, that other people don't necessarily have, that you can go and do those, like, raunchy things that your girl would never want to do. But you have like a free pass to go and do it and just get out of your system and she's cool with it. I mean, you're lucky in that way. Yes. For sure. What's the deal? I know. Very lucky. Yeah, for sure, of course. And you know that and she knows that so everyone's happy. What is the deal with, I know you have a girlfriend that has a husband. Like, does that husband ever get involved? Yes. So usually if we, if we go to, yeah. So like when we go to her house, pretty much most times the husband is involved. Okay.

And he's by. Is he by? Like into gas? Yes. Okay. And so you're having. He's similarly like kind of coming out to himself slowly, which is fun. Oh, interesting.

So when you go with her, you're typically having like an MMF three sum at their place? Yes. And also there's like a there's a trans guy that stays there too. So usually the four of us. Oh my God. Tell me that story. Okay. So who's dating the trans guy or he just happens to be like a part like they have a thruple with the trans guy as well as you? Yeah, they have kind of a thruple. It started off with just like inviting the trans guy to stay for a while. And then yeah, it's kind of become a thruple. And he's there and he's always there now. Right. And he's a part of their relationship. relationship. Yes. And so, and then did you come in when the trans guy was already a part of it? And then you were like the fourth person that was added in? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yes. Okay, but your relationship was primarily with the woman in there or did you meet me as a couple? You met the girl, right? And started something like, and we have a, we have a boundary. Okay. So like I was going to go to a play party and I didn't want to be. rude to her other, her partners, and I invited everybody, but that was upsetting to her. Like, she and I have a rule that I don't really connect to her other partners except through her. I get it. She wants

to keep you to herself. Like, that's something that she wants, she, she doesn't want them to have you as much as she has. Like, she wants you all to herself a little bit. And when she wants to bring you in with them, that's cool, but she doesn't want you to, like, develop relationships with them as well. Exactly. That makes sense. But, you know, but you. You know, you have hooked up with all of them have you had a for some with the trans man the husband and your girlfriend that's a fucking confusing yes and my wife oh no way usually if i go over there the four of us but one time my wife came oh my god and everyone just fucked everyone yes and then and then the girlfriend okay her girlfriend lives somewhere else and this girl the girlfriend that has a husband as well as

a trans person that they're in trouble with also has another girlfriend is what you're saying also has another girlfriend okay and so we kind of do stuff in the same room but i don't play with her the girl also oh i love this girl she's really micromanaging all of you she's like the center and then she's got all these people around her that are just hers right she sometimes shares but most of the time doesn't well she's very sharing it's just she doesn't she doesn't want me to call them and make plans with them outside of her. No, there are her relationships. I get it.

I get it. No, but you said that when she was with her girlfriend, she invited you in, but you were just allowed to sit there and watch. Like, she didn't want you, she didn't allow you to fuck her girlfriend. She's a little possessive. Listen, and there's nothing wrong with that. She gets to rule her own world and you're, and who's, does it bother you? Probably not.

You got like five other girlfriends. Who cares what she? No, I mean, when, originally I was inviting them because I didn't want to be rude. I didn't want to be like the guy that like talks to somebody's husband and not the wife. Yeah, of course. Like I didn't want that energy. And so like when she asked for that rule, I was relieved because I don't have the bandwidth to manage all that. Yes, totally.

I could see why you'd be like, oh, thank you. That takes that off my back. How was that night with the five of you, the one with the trans man, your wife, the husband? Like did your wife fuck the husband, your girlfriend's husband? Yes. I don't know. I mean, yeah, maybe not with their genitals. I'm not sure. But everybody was like in a pile. Everybody had sex with each other. Yeah. Yeah, it was a big fat orgy. Yeah.

It was a big fat orgy. Wow. That's crazy. Don't you think? It was really fun. It was really good. I mean, that's been so like the night of my 50th birthday, I got a room with two of the girlfriends and one of the girlfriends and one of the girlfriend's boyfriends and just ever since then there's been stuff happening like that ever since and I'm incredibly lucky but it's just been exciting to consistently have that yeah I can imagine and does your wife always get involved sometimes do you bring her into this stuff not usually she usually for one thing she wants to meet somebody with our clothes on before she participates in that and then

often she's just busy with other parts of her life. Let me ask you this. Do you guys have the same taste in checks? Like, does she typically like the girls that you're, that you like? Or does she have different taste? Do you like her girlfriends? It varies. I think she's had two serious girlfriends and one I was very attracted to.

But I wasn't dating her. I was allowed to listen to them. Oh my God. I love that way. Yeah. Tell me. And like, I listened to them. and I think that girlfriend kind of like got fascinated by how turned on I was and also was fascinated by like what I did when I was outside the house on their date night.

What do you mean outside the house? Outside the house listening through the window? What do you mean outside the house? No, like in the living room. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But would they go in the room and shut the door and just be really loud and you would hear them like fucking each other? Yes. Oh my God. That's interesting. Yeah. Okay. Let me ask you this. Is you, your wife like that other girl in that, you know, she doesn't really want to share her girls with you? Um, I think it's more off to the girl. I think if the girl's into it, she's into it. I think we probably do have pretty much the same case. So have any of, okay, let me ask you this. What about you? You've had all these girlfriends, you're rolling, like, you know, have you ever, you know, are you open to your wife developing a relationship with any of your girls? Would that be ideal? Or would that, or do you

prefer it the way it is now where you have your own and she has her own? No, I would like that. And we've talked about that. It would be nice if we found somebody that we clicked with that we kind of dated together. And that's the other thing that's happened this year for the first time is that like, I'd had group sex a lot, but I'd never been on a date with more than one person at a time. Okay. And then that started to happen, which was nice.

With who? Explain a date with two people or three people. just that we go somewhere and we hang out and we do some things and we maybe end up together or not. Uh-huh. And why did you start to blend? Why did you start to blend? Because everyone started to become kind of friends? Yes.

Now, do you like love them all equally? Do you have only feelings for some? Do you have one that's like your favorite? And I know that your wife is your primary, obviously, but with all the girlfriends, right? how do you feel about all of them? I like, yeah, I don't think I have a favorite. I think, you know, the newer relationship is, the more there's that kind of energy. One of the girlfriends, like the one girlfriend, we've been off and on almost as long as I've been with my wife.

Oh, you're kidding. Yeah. And we've gone through long stretches where we just don't see each other. We're busy or we've gone through stretches where, you know, we go out to dinner once a week, but it's plenty of. tonic and then we go through stretches where we're ravenous. Interesting. I'm so curious about these other women that like to get involved in this kind of scenario. Like what is like, you know, forget about the woman that's married.

I know she's ruling just like you, but the single women, I have to assume some of these women that are your girlfriends are single, you know. What do you think is their deal? Like, what are, like they're going into a relationship with a guy who's already married that's only available for a certain amount of time, you know, it's never going to be their primary partner. What do you think those girls all have in common that they're looking for this type of situation?

Well, the one that I've been with a really long time is not single. She has a close male primary partner, and the three of us have sex sometimes. Oh, okay, so that's interesting. So maybe the answer is that typically it's not, the people that do this aren't single people. There are other people that are in relationships, other poly people that are already have a primary partner. And then that makes more sense.

Yeah, there's one that like I don't think she's romantic with anybody else, but she is definitely like playing the field and enjoying herself. Last question. Has any of them, and maybe this isn't even count now that I know that they all typically have primary partners? Like I was going to say, did any of them ever get, did it ever get like confusing where someone develops more feelings that it's like a, problem because they're getting jealous of your primary partner. Has there ever been any kind of jealousy or anything like that? Because I already asked that about your wife. But like what about with all these other women? No, I think the closest thing is like when we set the boundary that I don't go through the other partners or like sometimes they're insecure. About what? You know, sometimes

we get insecure about like does this other person like me? Are they into it? Am I a bit much, you know, I think all of us involved are worried about that, but I think we're all fine. Do you talk about it? Yes. When it comes up, yeah. Yeah. And that's how you work through it. Yes.

So your longest relationship with the other girl is like almost as long as your girlfriend. And then all these other ones, did they just recently come up? Yeah, recently. Yeah, like this year or late last year. Maybe it's that medication kick it in. I think maybe it's that medication kick it in. year. I think maybe it's that medication kicking in. You're able to like, you know, juggle more because you're getting your ADHD under control. No, that's probably it. Yeah,

I don't think. I could pay this much attention before. Oh, my God. Channeling my excess. Yeah. Yeah. And now I would assume, you know, everyone knows who you are in your life, including your family? No. You just have a secret life? I mean, Okay, if I told my father everything about my life, he would not get it. I think I would have to educate him a lot, which is not my job, for him to actually understand it. Of course. And I think he would think, he would interpret it a different way. So, you know, if my dad has an inaccurate idea of who I am, but he's comfortable, why would I switch that for an inaccurate idea of who I am and not comfortable?

I totally agree. And listen, I don't think that, I'm not really talking so much about your sex life either anyway, because I don't think anyone should really discuss their sex life with their family. But I'm just like, it seems like you're very open and you have all this stuff and you have this very free relationship with your wife. I just wonder if most people kind of know that you guys are like Polly and open with each other. I, most of the time I only tell other Polly people. Oh, so everybody else, like, you know, has no clue. though.

Right. I don't think so. Every so often I'll come out to somebody, especially if somebody's in like a one-sided, you know, I'm surprised how many like people who are kind of, like straight couples and long-distance relationships where the man wants to be able to do whatever he wants

but can't stand the woman doing what she wants. Yeah. Uh-huh. You know, so like someone like that, I might be like, well, this is what I do and I think it's a lot nicer than what you're doing. When I've been in, like, monogamous relationships where I'm just kind of disengaged, I also consider that a form of cheating. So, like, it's also, you know, say just in a few years, just from circumstance, my wife

and I were monogamous, but neither of us felt disengaged or shut down. And we communicated well about it. That'd be fine, right? Yeah. But, like, the fact that we both like to do these things and we communicate well about it and are able to be comfortable around it, that's why. it works. Not a particular dynamic. It's just when somebody doesn't have the agency or the space to express their true selves. That's what I'm talking about. Not like the specific dynamic.

Yeah, totally. So listen, thank you. I just want to give you credit for being the opposite of what you just explained and being so in touch with who you are and being true to yourself and living with a partner that's perfect for you. So you don't have to lead a double life or do anything crazy and everything's, you know, ethic, you're like ethically, you're like the perfect ethically non-monogamous, poly person I know. So, you know,

thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. It was super interesting. Confusing, but interesting, Mike. Thanks so much for calling you. Your episode will be up soon, okay? And I'll send you like a free,

like to Discord, you'll get it after here and I'll give you free access to my Patreon so you can see comments when it comes out, okay? Okay, great. Thanks, Mike. Thanks for calling in. Bye.

Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really.

short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. point, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun

place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.