Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1271 - Jen is a Size Queen Into BBC, the Lifestyle and More

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Jen is a size queen into bbc, swinging & more & she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including the first guy she met after her divorce who turned her on the the lifestyle, their first swinger party and exactly what went down, the threesomes they had and what she loves most about them, how she remained in lifestyle solo after they broke up, why she prefers being single and playing at sex parties, her first gangbang and what went down, her 50th birthday orgy and what went down, how and why she loves spit roasting, how she became a size queen, her recent interest in bdsm, how and why she decided to start and Onlyfans plus a whole lot more. You can find Jen here: https://onlyfans.com/blondejenfreak **To see HOT pics of JEN plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠ For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2536-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS69 to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://loadboost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use my promo code STRICTLY at checkout to get 30% off sitewide ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://uberlube.com/discount/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code: STRICTLY for 10% off Uberlube aka the BEST Lube EVER ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠To get $15 OFF your oxytocin products, STI panels and more, use code STRICTLY Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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you can learn about what's going on over there. I have a free trial that I could offer my listeners. All you got to do is use code 37712 on SDC.com or just go. to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on Jen. I loved talking to Jen. She's so fucking real, but she's so naughty, okay? She really is both people. She's got such an interesting story and you're going to love it. Okay, like this was a woman who was married a whole life, Vanella, soccer mom, you know, been there, done that whole regular thing. And then when she got divorced, she started just like dating a lot of black guys because that was something that she was always into before she married her husband. And one guy that she met was like in the lifestyle. And he

brought her in and she went with him. And the minute she got into the lifestyle, she like effing loved it. And she explains exactly what went down. First time she went to like a sex party. She hooked up with women. She hooked up with couples. I mean, and she was like a natural. She talks all about that relationship with that guy. She was with them for years and they played with other people and She talks about their open relationship that they had. And then when they separated, she talks about being a solo woman in the lifestyle. And she talks about all those experience. And she's done gang bang.

She's done D.P. She's done DVP. She's done spritrocing. She could squirt now. I mean, she has been there, done that. She gives so many specific details. Black eyes are her thing. She does consider herself a size queen. She doesn't feel bad about saying that.

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with Jen. Hi, Jen, blonde freak Jen, the classy slut, Jen. Like, you got a lot of names, Jen, but we're going to call you Jen. I'm only going to say your name once. That sounds good. Welcome to this strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Well, thank you for having me.

I am doing fantastic today and so happy to take this time just to sit down and chat with you. Yeah, well, I'm going to get your whole life story. Okay. Do you call yourself a hot wife? Are you married? Are you just like into BBC and like living an alternative lifestyle? Like what's your deal and how would you like label yourself if you had to? Okay. Well, no, actually I am single, single. So I consider myself not only a milf, but also BBC lover. I'm oftentimes confused. As hot wives and run the same circle as, but, uh, but yeah, that, that's who I am. Yeah, I like the milk. Nobody, you know, guys love a, a slutty milf, right? I mean, you're, you're the classy

slutty milk. You call yourself, Jen, the super free class, the classy slut, which I love. So let's go back, Jen. Like, I mean, have you ever been married? Yes. I actually married my high school sweetheart and we were married for 20, 22 years. So we were together a total of just nearly 28 years. Wow. And very vanilla life. I was the soccer mom, the mini van driving, PTA mom, always worked out in the home. But never in my life did I imagine the life I have now, which I love, by the way. Yeah, I love that. But yeah, that marriage dissolved. Like I said, Kids were just nearly grown. I had one more in high school. And from then on there, I found myself single. Okay. So how long was it before or how long have you been doing what you're doing now? Like when did you get into BBC and being a milth and like screwing tons of guys? How soon after your divorce did that start? Oh, well, I don't think my divorce was even finalized at the time. Again, I was, you know, I was very much the devout wife. mom at that time. And then when he decided we needed to go our separate ways, then that is whenever I said,

well, you know what, here's my time. My kids were like, mom, go have fun. Do your thing. Little do they know. But I just started getting out there. It was basically I got out there on Vanilla sites just to see, do I still have it? Because, oh my gosh, being with someone for 30 years nearly, I didn't know. So I got on a vanilla sites, wasn't looking for relationships. I was just looking to go out, meet people, have fun, get some confidence back. And I was probably living the lifestyle without actually being in the lifestyle before, just casual encounters. And I found myself meeting a gentleman on one of the vanilla sites. And from our first meetup, he was just very upfront and honest.

said, hey, I just want to tell you, do you know what the lifestyle is? And I said, no. And he goes, well, do you know like what swingers, that type of thing is? And I'm like, yeah, I think so. And he said, well, that's a part of my life. And I just want to be up front and honest with you just to let you know from the get-go. And at first I was taken aback. I was like, you didn't bring me here for that. Thinking people were going to pop out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, you got to, you got to respect him for putting it on the table right from the get-go? I did.

There was something about that, and something that rings true in the lifestyle, I find a lot, that people are more authentic and open where they're coming from in general. And it was just the perfect storm of me being where I was in my life. And I was so curious. I went home and Googled and Googled and Googled everything I could. Oh, my God. And were you like, let me just ask you a quick question, though, like going back, like in your life, like with your husband.

Like, were you always kind of like a secret freak? Like, did you have a lot of fantasies in your head that you had never lived out? Like, or did like all, did this just like spark things in you? This really sparked things. There were moments in my life. My husband was not black. Okay. He was Hispanic.

So, but I had had always an attraction. It's more than a fetish for me. I had an attraction to black males. Like that was your time. That was your type. That's what you like. Yeah. We all have a type. And that's what I say. We all have a type. Yeah. So, so this really just sparks something in me. I was open to anything at this point. So three months later, I'm at my first house party for lifestyle. Had my first couple swap with him with another couple and had my first experience with two women. Oh my God. You got to slow that all down. That's like crazy. Like, like, okay. So, so. wait, first of all, I want to know this guy that you met that introduced you to the lifestyle. Was he black? Hello?

Hello? I can't hear you. Okay. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's okay. No problem. Are you there?

Yes, I'm here now. Okay. That first guy that you met, this guy that's bringing you into the lifestyle, was he black? Yes, he was. Okay. So you sort of, right from the get go, you're like going after your type now. Like you're like, want what you've always wanted. Everyone, yep, everyone that I was dating or seeing, you know, casually.

Yes. That was your thing. That was my thing. I said, I'm going to go for what I like. Okay, so walk me through that first house part. Now, first of all, because you did already allude to the fact that you hooked up with two women. So, like, did you know going in that you were bicarious, that you always wanted to be with a woman? Had you ever been before?

I had not ever been with a woman before. However, I was curious. Definitely so. And I still consider myself by in the bedroom. I don't want a girlfriend, anything like that. I'm a girl. I know how we can be. I wouldn't want to date a girl either.

But to me, it was more the whole thing of it turned him on too. I loved that. Not only did I enjoy my time with a woman and the softness. And I actually didn't know if I had it in me to please a woman until that party. I just got this confidence. One of the women was there with someone who had never gone down on her before, a boyfriend that would not go down on her. And I was doing my thing, doing what I like.

And we were in a room. I remember there were people all around. And she just looked at him. She goes, oh, my gosh, if you're going to take lessons, take them from her. Oh, because you were going down on her? That was the first time? I was going down on her. Yes.

That was the first time for me to go down on a woman. And you were a natural, obviously. You know what? I was just doing what I like. And that gave me so much confidence that, first of all, I liked it. And second of all, that I could please a woman. That definitely did. And it's a whole dynamic with the gentleman in that I loved that he loved that too.

Yeah, you sound like you're a pleaser. No, that's like a thing for you. I'm a pleaser. like to please. I'm a pleaser. Yeah, because like you mentioned already that you really love the fact that he was getting turned on with it. Plus, you're turning the girl on. So you're really getting off on pleasing all these people. Exactly. And I'm also finding, I don't mind being watched. In fact, I love being watched. Oh my God. Everything at once. So wait, when you, were you nervous that first time walking into that party? Or had you done so much Googling that you were like, okay. No, I was still. nervous. It was more of an anticipation of not knowing what to expect. And that's just a general way of my life. You know, I don't necessarily get nervous. I just, if I don't know exactly how it's going to go, there might be some anticipation. Yeah, of course. But, and I was very, I was very clear with everyone. I'm like, it's my first party, you know. I'm new to the lifestyle,

you know. And they were so welcoming too that made me feel just at home. And I was like, I found my tribe. I found my tribe. I kept saying that all night. But so, but when you walked in, like, did you have, like, in your mind, did you say, okay, I'm just going to go in and watch? Or were you like, I'm ready to go in and try everything? Like, what was your mindset of, like, what you thought was going to happen?

I mean, we know what happened. You tried everything. But, like, what were you thinking going in? I was really open to whatever may be. And I found someone attractive. I would definitely let my partner know. And I remember the first two women were just kind of just playing on the bed together. And me and my partner were watching.

And he could, I think he could just see it in my eyes. And he said, would you like to join them? And I said, I would, but I don't want to, you know, interfere. He goes, well, just, you know, just kindly ask. And so I whispered to them, you know. And them is a couple. Them is a couple. I'm sorry?

When you say them, was this the two women or was this a couple? They were two women. Oh, the two women. Two women playing on the bed. Okay, perfect. So he's like, just ask them. That's the protocol. Just ask them.

Yeah. And that is the protocol. Yes. So I introduced myself. I asked them. And they're like, oh, yeah, come on. And then, of course, that was a scene, three women on a bed playing. And sure enough, I even told the woman that I went down on that, you know, I whispered to her.

I said, this is my first time. you know, just let me know what you like, you know. And she said, just do your thing. And that was all I needed. And that was a great experience. And then that same night, too, we also did a couple swap with another couple. So that was phenomenal. And I realized I loved at that time being a part of a couple, making that eye contact while you're, you know, with someone else.

and just the chemistry of it all. I was getting it for the first time and I was on a natural hot. And you enjoyed it. So now this guy that you went with, by the time that you go to this party with him, are you like dating him or are you guys just hooking up? I mean, you said he had made it clear like he wasn't looking for a relationship. You were guys just like fuck buddies or something? Right.

You know, it really started like that. And then I remember the time whenever we were just starting to spend more and more time together a lot. And I remember thinking, you know, I don't necessarily care about these other ones that I am also seeing. And I remember telling one at the time, hey, I think it's kind of serious with this person. I'm going to, you know, back away. And he and I were eventually together for three years. Oh, wow. But you played in the lifestyle together, though. But we played. We always played together in the lifestyle. And it was always couple swapping or bringing another woman again.

Oh, okay. And you enjoyed watching him with another woman, like you said, with the couple swapping? I did. I did. Even bringing a single female into the situation, I enjoyed seeing his joy. I found out later, much later, years later, that, you know, I'm a compersionist. Yeah. I get off on his getting off and knowing that, oh my gosh, he is so good.

Here, somebody, somebody experienced this too, you know? And then knowing that eventually, you know, he and I had this more of a bond. That he comes back to you. Yeah. Yeah, some hot wife told me that her guy made this such a great, like, like, what is it fucking called? You know, analogy. And it was like, oh, you know, it's as if you have like, you like when a guy gets a new Porsche, you know, and he loves it so much.

He wants his friend to go take it for a ride so he sees how great it is. You know, he knows a Porsche is coming back, but he wants to share this great thing with another guy that he knows is going to appreciate it. It's like the same sort of thing we're sharing partners. Yes, that is a great. And you just explained it the same way.

You're like you're shaky, right? Definitely. But when you started to like him, was there any kind of difference, like as far as like any kind of feelings of jealousy or anything that came up or were you just totally fine? because you went in playing together that even when feelings started to get involved, like you were still cool being open? I was still cool being open.

Throughout the whole relationship, I definitely enjoyed that. And I just say that we just rode that wave until we couldn't ride it anymore. Some waves are short, some waves are long. This was a longer wave. And I just enjoyed him being in the last. lifestyle for nearly 15 years prior to me coming was such a relief to me in that he knew the way. He knew how, he knew the lay of the land and how to maneuver through it. He gave me the reins on our, we had a couple's profile on a website, you know.

He gave me the reins, said, hey, go out there, feel your way around, things like that, see what you like, what you don't like. And it was just really good. He helped me learn how to vet people, you know, look for those fakes or things like that or flakes if you can. So I just appreciate that relationship and what he did teach me. Yeah, it's amazing. And do you met him on a vanilla website?

Yes. Isn't that crazy? He really hit the jackpot with you and you with him. I mean, he was already in the lifestyle, you know, but on there. But you really weren't. And he wound up finding like the perfect, you know. woman to go into it with him. I mean, he converted you. You were a virgin. I was. I was. He bought my cherry, definitely. And you took to it so naturally. It just seems like it was such a, you know, a part of who you were because like you said, there was no jealousy that came in because he did wind up in a relationship soon after, right?

Right. Very soon after. I mean, I may have moved in sooner than I should have. But, you know, I've by, you know, I think it was five months or so. I was fully moved in and we were doing our thing. And you were fully involved in the lifestyle. Now, it sounds like you really like the people. Can you just tell me like around your age when you started where you look in your 40s, 30s, 50s? Like what age range were you in? Yes. So I'm 50 right now and I was 45.

So this was five years ago. So like you're super horny in your 40s, right? I mean, I remember. Oh, for real. Right? Yes. Oh, my God. It's why all those 40-year-olds are, when I was 40, I was begging a 25-year-old for my gym.

because it's like, you know, your hormones go crazy and you get hornyer than ever. It's like a woman's prime. You do. And that kind of brings in the whole milk thing. You know, I didn't embrace that at first. I might be jumping the gun here, but as I found myself single, I found that, hey, we have something in common here. Y'all's sex drive is equal to us middle-aged women's sex drive. and that tended, that that's kind of where that came about, you know, I dropped the age thing

and said, forget it, why worry about age? You know, if there, my low limit is 22. I won't go younger than 22. I don't know why, but I just won't. Okay. But you'll go 24, 25, 26. And it is true that it does match up because a lot of times guys, when they're like, even the biggest player guys that I knew, when they're about 49, 50, and sometimes when you're

45, those are the kind of guys' age range you'd be appropriate for you. But those guys could like fuck once a night. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, they could please you a million times, but they could, they're not like, you know, they can't come five, like four times in a night. Yeah, like a 25 year old cat. Sorry. Yes, exactly. Exactly. And they

just tend to, just, I mean, biology, you just tend to have more issues then. And not to say that I don't have partners that are older. Even older. Yeah. But they are, they are, They tend to be the anomaly of their age too. Yeah, yeah, like you.

Okay, so now you break up with that guy, but you remain in the lifestyle. When you were with him, like, what kind of other stuff did you do? It was typically like three sons with women. Did you ever do any kind of solo player? Were you always playing together? Nope. We always played together. We definitely always played together.

And whether that was couple swapping or at... He didn't have the thing where he wanted to see you with a guy. I mean, I know he saw you with the swapping of the guy, but he didn't have that kind of compersion kink himself, really. No, compersion was only a one-way street with us, definitely. Yes, and I will say, although he was a black male, he tended to have an issue seeing me with other black males. Really?

That made him jealous? Something about it. Why, I don't know, I think it caused an inferiority within him, And that was completely him, you know. And it's crazy because I mean, I like what I like, you know. And I want you to have what you like. It's why you wound up with him. Yes.

So that was interesting. Yeah, that is interesting. Okay, so you did all that stuff with him. Now, when you like leave that relationship and you stay in the lifestyle as a single woman, like, what do you start doing then? Are you continuing to go to like house parties and swingers clubs and stuff like that? Are you going to clubs? Oh, gee.

No. Oh, okay. Tell me what happened next. So I, you know, I'm on my own now. I find myself on my own living alone for the first time. By that time I was 47. Wow. So the first time in over 25 years.

Yeah. Because, you know, I was a mom, blah, blah, blah. And you went right from high school to be married. So like obviously probably with your parents' house to your husband's house, right? Or go to college. Yeah. I had an apartment for about six months. Okay.

You know, but he was always over there. But yeah, so I found myself alone. I said, you know what? I'm just going to get myself some time, get my footing under me, see what's going on. And for about, you know, two or three months, I just didn't do anything, just really focused on myself. And then I said, okay, let me get back out and see what's going on in the dating world. And I went to the vanilla sites. And, oh, after a couple of those, I said, you know what, if I'm going to be going to,

a date, I'm going to stay in the lifestyle. And so I had always told, you know, closer single female friends that we'd bring into our relationship. I always would tell them, you single women are the bravest people I know in the lifestyle because I would just see how, I mean, they would just be bombarded by singles, by couples, everybody. And I was scared to be single in the lifestyle. But I knew that it was a part of me now. I was, I was lifestyle. And it was around Christmas time and a gentleman from, that I knew while we were a couple, although we never played, but he, he reached out and said, hey, you know, Merry Christmas to you and him. And I said, oh, well, it's just me. And he said, no way. He goes, well, me and his wife got a divorce. I said, oh,

Oh, wow. And he said, yeah, you should come out to my house. I, you know, I open it up, people come over, chill, lifestyle, blah, blah, blah. And I confided in him, me being so afraid of being single. And he said, no. That's interesting. You'll be great. You'll be fine.

And it wasn't until the summer, whenever I had already gotten back into the lifestyle now, because that was December. And so it was the summer. and he said, hey, I'm having a, I'm having a pool party, would love to have you, come on out. And again, I said, ooh, I don't know about this. I had reservations because I thought that being a single woman and knowing that there would be single men at this party, it would just be a single woman with a bunch of single guys around a bed, you know, jacking off waiting on their turn. He said, no, it's nothing like that.

Nothing like that. You don't even have to play. And so I went. And I tell you what, I felt so at ease there. It was a great atmosphere to get back into it as a single woman. And that's when, for the last year and a half, I've just been going 90 to nothing. And I whittled it down to, you know, I went back to what I liked, which was single woman. black men and I have found a great community that we have in my area and that I just I'm like not I found my

tribe before but I found an even better tribe how did you find that community just by going remaining in the lifestyle like meeting different people and then so it's networking I've just become like that was finding him and then he's like hey we have a bigger group I'm a part of a bigger group that it's it's international but it's based here in my area and he's and he's like i just i keep meeting people and meeting people and now i have friends you know that i travel all over the nation and visit them they'll be like hey i'm having a party here you want to come you know and if i can get up there or the single mail that i've met it maybe at a huge party that we have says hey you want to come out this way, you know, it's just networking. And it's a solid group of single males, too. So there's

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The lifestyle may bring us together that we have that likeness, but you find people that you just really, you really get and they get you. So you find your little click of people and you did. Now that first party that you went to, you know, I know you thought you were going to be like this piece of me and all these single guys. What went down at that party? Do you remember? Oh, it's so funny.

So I was in the pool and a young gentleman introduced himself. Actually, yesterday was his birthday. What was he 24? He was 26 yesterday. Okay. Yeah. So, and we've remained friends. But he introduced himself and he was just very, it was very normal.

You know, he wanted to know my story. He actually wanted to know. He was intrigued. that I was now single and had been in the lifestyle as married and or not married but coupled. Yeah. And, you know, so we did that. And then, you know, he's, he was like, hey, would you like to play? And I'm like, yes. And did that. And that was one of a few that night. So. And was that fun for you? Because it's different, right? You were typically playing with like your guy. I don't know, because you're in the lifestyle now solo. Like, do you love, like, now that freedom of, like, having multiple men a night and doing different kinds of things and just the couple swaps? I do. It's really what I enjoy greatly.

There's not that it's so hard to find when you're coupled. It's so hard to find four people that can jive enough to do anything. And so here I didn't have to check in, you know, or. or say, hey, what do you think about this, you know, or how you feel about this? I didn't have to, I could be totally inhibited because there was always being the pleaser in me. There was always a part of me that, and we played in the same room for most of the time, that I never, I was always conscious of his ego. I never wanted to totally submerge myself or maybe let go to the extreme of how much I truly was enjoying it because of that. Yeah, well, he made it known a little bit to you that he had an issue, right?

I mean, there was. Yeah. There was. Yes, that played a big part in it. So I just find that I can move, you know, solo and it's so much easier. And if I do want to play at a party, I can. If I just want to sit back and watch and chill, I can do that too. So do you remember how many guys you did that night?

I think it was four. Wow. What is the most you've ever done in one night? Have you ever had a gang bang? I have had a gang bang because my thing is I'll try anything twice. It sounds like that. You know? And I have had a gang bang.

For me, it's not my cup of tea just because it's so much work. I like to enjoy, you know. Maybe two guys, cool, you know, because I can still enjoy it. After a little bit more than that, it's so much work for me. Oh, my God. That's so funny. How many guys at your gangbangs? Tell me, the two of them.

The two of them, it was eight and six. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. And my thing is, what constitutes a gang bang? I always ask people that. Yeah. What is it for you? What constitutes a gangbeng for you? For me, I would probably say four or more. Right. Mm-hmm. I would say, yeah. And you had six and eight. So that's definitely two gangbangs for sure. So it did.

But even though you tried it twice, like it just wasn't your thing at the end of the day. Yeah, it's not my thing at the end of the day, not to say I'll never do it again. But yeah, I think the most that I had in, And one evening or one day was probably my 50th birthday. It wasn't a gang bang. But some of the fellows in this group, the oldest and the youngest guy, put it together and just had a little surprise party. He said, hey, be here at this time. Oh, my God. We want to celebrate you.

And that was 10 guys and one girl. Wait, this is your birthday party? Tell me about that. So they set up the surprise. They tell you, hey, you're just going to show up to this party. And I don't know what you're expecting, but when you get there, you're the only chick and there's 10 guys? I wasn't the only chick, which is great, too. Okay, good.

Yeah, because 10 guys, that's a lot to manage for, you know, thank goodness for other women, you know. Exactly. Because we're going to keep the guys happy too, but I showed up there, and that was it. My thing is I trust these individuals to know that they'll do me right. If they say, hey, be here at this time. Yeah. we got something for you, then I know they got me. So I showed up and the people that came together,

it was just the right combination of people that meant so much to me. And I think that there was a total of maybe three girls that came, which was good because, again, I don't necessarily care for the multiple guys, like, three or more at a time. So I would do like two or more, but it was a lot of just one-to-one interactions too. So I was really busy. So somebody had to entertain these guys, too, while I was busy with the others.

And it was just really great. They really made me feel like a star. And I said, I hit my 50s with a bang. Oh, my God, with a lot of bangs. Let me ask you this, have you done like DVP, D.P. D.P. Spit roasting. You know, all those kinds of.

configurations that can take place with all these guys? Yes, I've done, I've done them all. I love, I love spit roasting, actually. I do. You know, whenever two guys in that position, yeah, definitely. I've done the, all the DVD, all those things there. I love them all. I love anal too.

So that's not a deal breaker or anything for me there. I mean, and you're a size queen, right? You like BBC? Do you consider yourself a size queen? I mean, you're taking these big cocks two times at once? Right. For the longest time. I was hesitant to say that.

But you know what? Again, we like what we like. For whatever my anatomy allows me to enjoy larger cocks. And that's what it is. And so I love that. And so now it's funny that you mention that because I had a gentleman last night that, you know, we talked about my content and stuff. And he said something about size queen being on, not being on my items. And I actually added it to my profiles. Oh.

Just last night. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm going to admit it. Like, that's okay. I'm going to embrace it. Yeah. And let me tell you, I'm going to tell you, even from a content marketing standpoint, I'll just let you know because I talk to a lot of people in this lifestyle and even guys that, like a lot of guys that are into quote unquote hot wifing or just watching women being taken by other men or whatever, they love when the women are with a guy with a really big dick. Like, honestly, you know what I'm saying? Like, seriously, it's not like a, it's like a thing that a lot of guys actually enjoy because, so I don't think it's a deterrent.

I don't think it is. And if it is a turnoff for someone, it's just not my people. And that's okay. Did your husband have a big dick or did you become a size queen like after you left him? I became a size queen after. And, you know, I remember, I had one sexual experience prior to us getting married with someone other than him. And I remember thinking back to that, who it happened to be a very large black cock. Yeah.

And I just remember always thinking back to that. You know, he'll never hear this. Yeah, I remember thinking that. Well, that's the reason why right after you got divorced you, that's what you were hitting up. Black eyes, you're looking for that same experience. I was, definitely. Oh my God. But how do you do DVP?

Like, because I mean, DP is like one in your ass, one in your pussy, but have you done DEP? Yeah, double penetration. Like two dicks inside of you. Two big ones? I mean, how does that even work? Well, my thing is they have to be like equal in the same size. for them to be like, it's very awkward. Yeah.

It's hot on film. Yeah. It's very hot and the thought of it. It's very hot. But it's actually quite awkward, you know, placement of people. It's like acrobatics kind of thing. I can imagine. Yeah.

You know, someone wants to explain it to me. They're like, oh, yeah, like one is on the bottom and one's on the top. I'm like, oh, okay, that makes sense because I'm always picturing, oh, two, your legs are spreading. Both guys are standing next to each other. And I'm like, that can't even be possible, you know, but it's, you know, but it didn't be comfortable. No, no. So it's typically that there's a guy in the bottom and the guy at the top. Exactly.

Yeah, that's exactly. The more normal or comfortable way. And like I said, they need to be kind of equal in, you know, stature and size and making sure that everything goes where it needs to go. Yeah, no, totally. I mean, D.P. is easier, though, but you could take those huge cocks when you're doing D.P. as well. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I could. And I enjoy that. Yeah, you're really a professional. And can you deep throat?

I mean, because how do you give such great hat? It's hard. It's hard. And I have a small mouth, I say. And I could probably use some more training. Yeah, but you know what it is? I'm going to tell you with your small mouth. The guys probably love the way it looks around their cock because it just makes them look bigger.

Because it makes them look bigger. Yes. But you know what? More spit. If it's sloppy, it's good. so I just go as deep as I can. I love to choke on a dick, all that kind of stuff and that's hot.

Well, I remember because I've always wished I could deep throat and I can. I'm very impressed with anybody that can. It's like a great party trick, you know, which I can't do. And guys have always told me I give a really great head. I'm like, how could that be? Like I can't deep throat. And they're like, oh, deep throoting doesn't really matter. Like guys said like, oh, yeah, that's like great and stuff.

But like a great blowjrop doesn't need deep throading at all. You know what I mean? So it's not like, I just think it's like a fun party trick. I wish I could. That's what I, again, it's great for film. Yeah. And great party trick. But yeah, I get the same thing of how good it is.

And you know what? You use that your hands too and a lot of... Exactly. Yeah, they don't need a very enjoyable. Yeah, they don't need a deep throat. What about squirting? Can you squirt? These are all my things I can't do that I'm always impressed.

Yes. I'm jealous of other people. I did not, I did not know I could squirt until said partner entered the picture. I think he kind of took it as a challenge. I'm like, no, I don't squirt. Oh, yeah, that's the best thing. Attuned to that. So now it's, yeah, I say I gush.

I gush now. And he was the first one, the first guy that you dated, the one you wound up in a relationship with? He got you to squirt? How? With his hands or like with his cock? Like, do you remember? With his cock. Really?

With his cock. But I also do with hands. And I can make myself, you know, squirt through manual stimulation. But yeah, it was his cock. And I think it may have been just, I think a certain size definitely hits that spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And then once you can, I think, this is what it sounds like. Once you figure it out, you know, and it's like a switch goes off and then it becomes easier to do it all the time. Because listen, you manually came all the time, your whole life and could never squirt. But now you could manually even squirt like yourself, right? That's it. Yes.

Exactly. Yes. Yeah. Squirt on demand kind of deal. Yeah. Okay. And so what of your experience as a solo woman? Do you see you also hook up with a lot of women still as well? No, I don't hook up with as many women. I still have one couple from my past that we will hook up with and do threesomes with, which I love. I'm not saying that I wouldn't hook up with a woman. And I think it's so hot. And I've made out while, say, another woman and I are being fucked. You know, that kind of deal. But right now I'm just loving, you know, all the single blood men and their cocks.

Don't you feel like the more sex you have the hornier you get? Like, so it's just like a vicious cycle. I mean, you just must be ramped up all the time. Yeah, I think so. I think so. And the thing for me is if there's connection involved, which I found that I really, really enjoy, it's even that much hotter, you know. just the random hookups of someone that you'll never see again.

Just kind of leave you kind of, you know, kind of like cotton candy. It's great for a few minutes. But then you're left wondering, oh, well, what was that? Yeah, yeah. That's a good analogy. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, so I'm finding the connection. And I'm finding that I have, I'm finding those women in the lifestyle that I connect

with a lot more. I used to say, I don't have any women friends in the lifestyle, but I just had met them yet, you know, those slutty, embracing themselves, hot women that are halfway sane because we're all a little crazy, you know, but, and I had dealt with, not dealt with, but, you know, I had interacted with single females, you know, as a couple, and I thought, oh, my gosh. Little nutty? They were nutty, you mean?

Oh, okay. You know, we're all a little nutty. Yeah. So, yeah, I definitely made it a point of whenever I became a single female to be intentional and not be flaky, things like that, and know what I want. I think that that's key. Some enter into the lifestyle, maybe for the wrong reasons or looking for the wrong thing. And I know exactly who I am and what it is and what it can bring me. And that makes all the difference.

Yeah, no, that makes sense. And now when you say like connections, do you have like people like, is it like, you know, the bulls or the guys in your life that the single guys that you like see regularly? And that's how you build that connection. So they're like really great friends and and you have sex. Yeah. Definitely. You know, I have those friends with benefits type. And then I also have it's interesting. We may start as fuck buddies at first and it evolves into more like I have one that probably. from the very beginning. I met him soon after I was single and back in a lifestyle. And, you know, we're each other's door dates where if we're going somewhere, if it's, if it's cheaper to get in as a couple, it helps him out. Also, it helps me being a single female to have that male presence, that anchor. I call him my anchor. You know, to hang on to her if I need to be cock blocked to, you know, hey, I'm with you right now, kind of deal.

So I have those. And we don't, we don't just do to life circumstances. We maybe not fuck as often as we'd like to. But we are genuinely, hey, what are you doing? Checking in with each other to getting those connections. And now I have, you know, regulars that sometimes we'll just meet for lunch and not even fuck kind of deal. Have you fought, like have you had any romantic relationship since that first guy? I have not.

Are you even looking for that? Or do you prefer being in the last? lifestyle solo because you've kind of done both. Yes. I definitely enjoy the lifestyle solo and being able to call my own shots is huge for me. Now, I have some scenarios at play that it could definitely morph into something like maybe a Stag Vixen type deal. And these are even, I always thought Stagvixen. I thought that I thought it was sort of like the hot wife thing that it would be white males, but no, there are black males out there that don't mind the, that actually enjoy the Stagvixen, that loved having that white slut out there, getting what she can from others

when he can't provide or be there. Yeah. So I have, I have some of those kind of in their infancy stage. I kind of feel like I'm moving in that direction. And then I have other dynamics at play. I call myself a BDSM light type in that I have that. You know, I don't want to be owned or anything like that. I made that very clear with the gentleman and said with him, if that means that we never talk again, that's fine. I totally respect that.

But we have cultivated this relationship. into something that for both of us that just, it just works. And he's like, you get all the benefits of a pleasure dom without having to do those submissive type things that he requires. Interesting. So now let's get to the point where like during all this, because you did say at some point that you do love like people watching you. Is that the reason why you did wind up becoming a content creator and starting an only fans? Well, yeah, I'll always say I'm a lifestyleer first. But with that being said, in my prior relationship in the lifestyle, we always had a camera rolling or just for our own benefit because

we love just watching each other, watching ourselves. And we got off on that. And, you know, we would post things to another site as well, not paid or anything like that. And we always joked. He always joked. He should have it only fans. And I started one there at the end of our relationship and just due to life circumstances, having surgery and all this stuff. It kind of, it never completely died, but it died. But in just this January, I started, I said, you know, I really, I miss that. I miss doing that. And so at the beginning, prior to January, I started saying, okay, in January 1, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do it right. I'm going to build. by following, build it organically, things like that. And it's just taken off. And right now I feel like

I'm kind of throttling it because I have a full-time job too. And geez, my fantasy would be to live the lifestyle full-time and have it support everything. And but, but yeah, that's where I am right now. So let me ask you this. I mean, you have the, like what are the types of things that you sound up for? Only fans, right? Like, that's what you have. I mean, you just definitely want to give a shout out because I'm going to put the link in the, I'm not done asking you questions, but I just want to give your Only fans a shout out. Also, your Twitter, right? Your acts, they could see like what you have to offer, right? Yes, they can. And I put little snippets out and I post daily sometimes, multiple times a day on my Twitter. And that's a lot of where I pull in my fan base from. I'm looking to, I'm looking to, I'm looking to, I'm looking. to expand into other things as I learn more. That's one thing. I don't do anything. I don't jump in.

I am methodical about how I approach things. So I don't want to get in over my head and not know what I'm doing. Instead, I want to have an idea of how things go. So I'm really aligning myself, too, with the individuals that can kind of me the ropes of what they know and what they've done and what they've discovered. And people are so kind about sharing their information and their journey and what works for them. That's awesome. Like other content creators is what you're saying, right?

They're helping you along. Yeah, that's awesome. Now, listen, I mean, when we were about to tape, I was like, I don't have to change your voice, right? And you're like, oh, yeah, no. My face is out there. You don't have to change my voice. So, like, it seems like you're out and proud. Has anybody, like, from your vanilla life caught wind of what you're doing?

because you do put your face out there. I do. I do. Let's see here. There's a contractor at my work that he joined a swinger site. And, of course, being a single black male, he pops up. And I'm like, is that? Is that?

And he has an unforgettable smile. Yeah. And, of course, when you select and look further, because I'm nosy, they can see that they've been viewed. And he texts me, he goes, well, Jen, because Jen is my real name. He goes, you're just full of surprises, aren't you? Because he sees me as these quiet corporate office woman. Yeah. And so now we share that secret with one another.

No, we haven't played. Yes, we both seen each other naked. Yes, we both seen each other fun. And it's this fun kind of chemistry. And it's also great seeing him as someone just entering into the lifestyle beginning his journey. Now there's no concern that anyone would, because that's a decision you had to make. Like here I am, I'm going to create content. Like, do I put myself out there because my kids could find out, my ex-husband could find out?

Like, I don't know. You know, like what was your thought process? You know, I'm kind of always just waiting for the phone call or the at work, Jenny, please come down to my. office type deal there with my kids I will say I think they are going with how I taught them especially as they got older I said don't ask questions you might not like the answer to or you might not want the answer and being a single woman yeah I have a very small circle that has my location on my phone and they see where I go so I've gotten I've gotten the text it's especially one of my grown kids are nosier, I should say. And she'll just say, you okay or you alive, question mark? And she doesn't ask any other questions. And I think that's just her way of just checking on me.

She doesn't want to know. She doesn't ask any other questions, that kind of deal. I will say about kids finding out, I did have a sexy TikTok way, way, way back whenever I was still coupled. And of course, you can see who views your thing. And I saw that my son had viewed my page. And of course, you can't put too much out there, but it showed the link to my only fans. Yeah.

Oh. And right after that, my sister just said, hey, the kids brought something to me. I just want to make sure you can do whatever you want to. I just want to make sure that you're doing it because you want to, not because you're being forced to or being asked to. And I said, no, this is totally me. But she goes, okay, she goes, just as long as you're safe and you're happy. Wow.

So she never said the word. You never talked about what she was talking about, but you both knew what you were talking about. Interesting. Yes, we never said, and they don't know, they don't know how I am now. They just, I think that they know that I'm just dating and not romantically. involved with one single individual. They know that. Definitely. I have one sister cousin who's my dear soul and she knows everything, has always known everything about me and has been with me, you know, on this journey as my, as my, she calls herself lifestyle ally. I was going to say,

like, does she love hearing your stories? She loves hearing my stories. She said, she said she would definitely enjoy observing a party. Because she's also like that sociology major. Yeah, curious. Humanities person. And she's also very sexual, but she's monogamous. Yeah. So she said, I would love to go and just be a fly on the wall.

Yeah. And she can in the lifestyle. And she can. That's a great thing. And she says, I know where to go whenever I'm ready. Yeah. Interesting. But I mean, at some point, when you did make that decision, you must have, like,

there's got to be a part of you that doesn't really care at the end of the day if people find out. You know, because you do use your name and you put your, like you said, my name is Jet. Like, that's my real name. That's my face. So you, that decision was made to be like, who cares at the end of the day if someone does find me? It was. You know, I think in my 50 years, I've learned that I can survive anything.

You know, as long as I have my health and I'm breathing, I'm good. Yeah. So if that comes to be, then I will just do what I have to do. maybe that's whenever I go full time. And do this just full time for your live, like to make your living. Yeah. And so like you've lived both lives. You know, you were the vanilla suburban, you know, mom.

And now you're the, you know, milf, you know, slut, classy slut. You know, like what's the difference in you now considering where you've been and what you've done and how you've changed? Well, I think I'm more unapologetically myself. I'm truer with myself. And I think that that shows. through. I think even in my vanilla life, people will go, wow, you just seems so much more happy and carefree and not, I was always a worry ward too. And they say, and I say that is because although my vanilla life may not see how authentic I am with myself now, they know, they know

something is different and it shows there. Yeah. In a positive way. In a very, I'm in a very, positive way. And my thing, my whole thing is, my duality is, I think, a key driver in my subscribers and the people that follow me on the different sites because it isn't, I mean, a lot of it is very sexual and everything. However, you're going to see me sitting at my desk at work. One of my most popular pictures is just a vanilla picture. And there is something, that turns people on to know that this classy, you know, I wouldn't say sophisticated because I don't consider myself that, but put together woman has this nasty, raw, yeah, freaky side to her. Like, they know that that picture there, I may have come dripping out of me from three different

guys, you know, and that's a turn on. That is definitely a turn on to two folks to know that she's real because you get the real me. Yeah. It's funny, I had a woman, because I have a Patreon, and you'll send me in some, like, picks for that, but, like, and I was like, oh, when we were done and she was, like, a woman who got divorced and then, like, started a lifestyle solo and stuff, and I'm like, can you send me a picture for my Patreon? And she literally sent me a picture.

It was, like, probably taken at the vet with her dog. It was literally, like, her and, like, a pair of shorts and flip-flops and her dog. And I was like, oh, my Patreon members are going to be like, what the fuck? Because, like, typically women send me in pictures of them in lingerie, because I always say, like our rated picks. Yeah, provocative, hot, sexy picks. And my Patreon members go crazy because they're the only ones I get to see it. But this pick, I was like, oh, they're going to be disappointed. Let me tell you. It was the exact opposite. You know, I learned what you learned. That pick, people were like fucking loved it. Because she looked so innocent. She looked like the

regular woman that you'd see at the vet or at shop, right, shopping. You know what I mean? And then to know this secret sex life that women like that love fucking sex like them. Like that's every guy's fantasy and that's what they want to know. And I was like, oh, live and learn, Kathy. Like, that was like the hot, like people love that picture. And I just re-aired her episode recently and I put that same picture up and it got the same reaction. They loved it. Isn't that amazing? And that's what it is. That fantasy that, oh my gosh, this is a real person. Totally. And I think I like the shock value of even if I am out in public and, and meet somebody, because I will meet people, quote, out in the wild. Yeah. And, you know,

And they meet me and then they find out, especially young black men, and then they find out, oh my gosh, you're going to be interested in me? Yeah. You know, that kind of deal like this, somebody that they would never approach. But I, you know, you give signs out. You know, you let them know you're interested. And they're like, yeah, this is hot. No, but that's like low. I always say like that's the point of my show because sometimes people will be like, okay, why are you?

trying to normalize all the stuff. I'm like, I'm not trying to normalize anything. Okay, all I'm here to say and what my show is here to say is like I'm not saying, oh, everyone needs to go do this. Most people will never live this lifestyle, you know, but what my show is here to say is that some people actually do. And it's not like people that you would never believe. It's not like, like I always say, there's no pervert island where everyone looks like

freaky, crazy, slutty, perverted, sex fiends, you know, it's these regular people. It's, you know, Jen at work sitting at her fucking table. It's that girl at the vet holding her dog. Like these are regular people that walk amongst you that you see on a daily basis and some of them are living this life. That's a fact. And it's just what's going down. You know, it's regular people. Yeah, yeah.

And that's what's awesome. So do me a favor, Jen. Send me a couple picks for Patreon. Send me a real of like one of those regular ones with a hot one. I think that'll go over great. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Let's see.

Let's do that experiment. Let's do it. Yeah. And then you'll get it. You'll also get a free link to my Discord. My Discord's really great. And there's like a, there's a, there's a guest channel there where you could post like X.

You could post whatever you want there and you could post your X rated stuff there, which was like super hot. That's like what I give to you for giving me a great episode. I will put a link to your only fans and everything in the description. So send me the link that you want me to put in or if you have an all links or like you know or whatever links you want me put in the description and send me those picks as soon as you can. I love talking to you.

This was super fun. Thank you. Thank you. I look forward and I'll I will send you all of. Yes. I'll be that sooner than later. So I have it. Perfect.

Thanks, Jen. Okay, perfect. Have a good day. Thanks. Bye. Bye-bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book coming out. The book is called Shirklinonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. The book is basically seven different stories taken from my show.

I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gang-bang girl story. There's like I said, 17 stories. and they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person.

I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show. You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third person. There's an ebook available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the e-book. It's available.

There will be an. audiobook available very soon. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I.

talk about on my show, like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy

my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels.

We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to. my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

it comes out. I did not narrate it. I was going to, but I passed on it because I sucked at the job. Okay, I couldn't do it at all, but I got a hot check to narrate the book. So you're going to dig the audiobook. If you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. That is my gift to you for getting my book. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks. Okay. It's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with each other. That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures and there's tons of channels and we have

contests over there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buys my book at any time access to my Discord. It is private. It's the only way you could get in is through me giving you the link. And that's why I think my Discord is so great because I have vetted people. It's not like it's just open to the public. So everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show and people that listen to my show

are fucking great. So my Discord is fucking great. My book is great. You're going to love it. If you buy it, all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it, and I will give you free access to my Discord. Send it to Strictly Anonymous Podcast.com. You could find my book in the link in the description, okay, or just Google at Strictly Anonymous Confessions,

Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. You can find it anywhere. You buy books. Send me the picture and I'll give you access to my Discord email, strictly anonymous podcast at Gmail.com. Anyway, thanks so much for listening.