Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1295 - Lena Got Pregnant by her Married Boss and Had an Affair with her High School Teacher?

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Lena got pregnant by her married boss and had an affair with her high school teacher and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how she wound up having g an affair with her teacher in high school, and exactly what went down between them, how and why that affair wired her into liking older guys, the older married guys she started sleeping with at her job and how and why they’re would pay her to hang out with them, how she met her husband and how and why she started cheating on him, how she started hooking up with her boss at work, how and why she told her husband about her affair and how that led to them getting divorced, how she continued her affair with her boss and how things changed after her divorce, how she wound up getting pregnant and how her boss reacted when he found up, how he had told her he was separated and how and why she doesn’t believe him anymore, how much he’s willing to provide for her and the baby and why she wants more plus a whole lot more. REPEAT THURSDAY, originally aired 09/24 GET A COPY OF MY BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Black Friday Sale PLUS $50 off! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 30% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get your first month of the new Bluechew Max FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2536-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use code ANONYMOUS69 to get 50% off your yearly pass plus a 14-day money-back guarantee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://brooklynbedding.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use my promo code STRICTLY at checkout to get 30% off sitewide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I just like them so much more. And eventually I was having an affair and I got pregnant with an older man who was supposed to be divorced. And then I found out otherwise. And that's supposed to be the story. I get on the phone with her and it's like, the way she got into older men is something straight out of ABC's News at 7. scenario, okay? Wait until you hear about the first older man she was with and how it happened. It's crazy. And then wait until you hear about all the older men that followed when she was like at her job in the future. And then wait until you hear how she meets her husband and then who she winds

up having an affair on him with and then how she tells him and how he reacts and then how she gets pregnant and then what she finds out about her baby daddy. Okay. At that end, that's what you're going to hear in this episode. It's, super interesting. It's salacious. It's kind of a crazy story. Wait until you hear it. It's really good. I was like captivated. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Lena. Hi, Lena. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. Hi, Kathy. Thank you for having me here today. You got like a salacious story, Lena. Okay. I'm going to give the short story. It's about all that I know, but I'm going to get all the details out of you. You are a girl.

You are partnered up now with somebody, I think, but you also have always been into way older guys. We're going to talk about that because we'll go back to the beginning, right? You're always sleeping with guys that are way older than you. And at some point, you were having an affair with a guy who you thought was single, right? And divorced two, I don't know. You're going to have to explain. But he wasn't, I think. That winds up happening.

And you wind up getting pregnant by him. So it sounds like a big fucking mess. And we're going to get all the story. I'm going to get all the details to it. That's kind of like the, and the guy did work with you, right? The guy works for you. He's your, he's above you, kind of like a boss to you, correct? Yes.

Yeah. Okay. So listen, Lena, that is the gist of it, right? You got pregnant by a guy that you thought was single, but you were having an affair, correct when you did it? Correct. Yeah. And you got pregnant.

Did you keep the baby? Yeah, I'm actually, I'm currently six months pregnant right now. Oh my God. We're in the middle of this. Okay. I love it. All right, let's go back. We'll get to real time soon, okay? But let's go back, okay, to you being obsessed with older guys, okay? I think when you were like 16, you were sleeping with 40-year-olds. And to me, listen, I'm really old now. So I'm like, oh, it doesn't seem old. But when you're young, I know, I remember being in my 20s, even late 20s, thinking that someone in their 40s was like old as fuck. So I can't imagine being 16 and going for a 40-year-old. When you're like 16-22 is like, oh my God, he's so old. Like what the hell were you doing with 40 year olds when you were 16? Honestly, I always found it hot.

I always felt like, I guess like guys my age at the time were teenagers. They didn't really have much experience. And I tend to, yeah. No, I did it. I did it. But after being with these older men, I felt like it was really hot for me to be like, to be submissive. Uh-huh. And I always felt like an older guy knew how to dominate me.

So I always like that. Yeah, but let me ask you this, not to psychoanalyze you, but I just have to go there just for a second because sometimes when you're 16, you feel really old. But then sometimes like right now, if I told you to Google a picture of a 16-year-old girl, you'd realize just how young you were at that time, right? Is there a possibility that at that time, like the first older guy that you hooked up with kind of like, not forced you into it, but manipulated you into an affair with him? or did you always know before even an older man was in front of you that, oh, I like older men.

Because I don't know how you wind up even in the sphere of an older man at 16, unless maybe he's a little fucked up in the head that he's going for a 16 year old. Do you know what I'm saying? I do feel like, yeah, I got what you're saying. I do feel like I was a bit groomed and I was younger, but I didn't know better. And I liked it. Of course. I went for it. That's the problem with these situations like this.

because you have, there's a lot of things going on at the same time, right? You don't know when you're too young. And so your brain is not formed properly enough to take control of the situation. But you also have a body that's just filled with hormones. And you could rub your clit at that age on a pillow and get an orgasm. So, so you could get turned on by something without even realizing it. And it's not like you have a choice. Your body is sort of responding the way it responds because it's just physical. So could we just talk about that situation? And then what happened? And then what happens? happens, though, too, is that you get wired into that, right? So maybe it was not that you were always into older men. It was just that you had this one older guy very early on who came and groomed you, showed you a good time, somehow it triggered you and felt good. So then you were like wired into being into older guys. Does that sound right? It does sound right, actually. It makes sense now. I really didn't think of it before, but like now talking about it out loud, it just makes sense. Could we just hear this story real quick? And I promise everyone I'm going to get to like the other story and everything. But can I just hear the story about how you wound up in bed with a 40 year old guy? Like, who was this guy? So he was actually my biology teacher in high school. Oh my God. The story gets worse. I just love the fact that I ask the questions that I do and I interrupt and I don't move forward probably when people want me to because seriously, your fucking teacher? Yes.

I'm not going to use the R word, but some people might. Okay, so let's go there. So you're 16, you're in a classroom with a teacher. How do you eat, like, how does the vibe between you and the teacher start? Because eventually you guys are like outside of the classroom. Like what's going on in the classroom with him to start off with? So in the classroom, I always felt like he was picking on me all the time. And I thought, okay, he probably either one hates me or two.

he's just bothered me because he wants to get my attention. So eventually, I don't know why. I just kept thinking about him and I ended up having a dream, like a wet dream about him. And I told him. When? Like in a note and a text. I don't know what he had like,

we used to use kick, this app called kick a lot to chat. And that's where he would chat with his students sometimes for like homework. of tutoring. Is that normal? Is that normal for teachers to talk on kick with their students? Did all your teachers do that or just him? Just him. Oh, he's a fucking curve.

Okay, this is something's wrong with this guy. Okay, so he's on kick talking to his students. I think of kick as like a place where people are sending naughty things to each other. I don't think it's a place for teenagers. My teacher has something called Teachers Hub, okay? Like that's where you talk online to teachers and it's monitored, I'm sure. Oh my God. This guy's talking to you on kick.

Okay, so you and yeah, and that's where this is so inappropriate because it does give somebody like you who still is too young to even know that it's highly inappropriate to tell your teacher that you had a fucking wet dream about him. Okay. But, you know, you're like young and you're on kick outside of the thing home and you send it to him. Right. And what does he say back? He honestly didn't know what to say back, but he did.

asked me for more details. Like, he wanted detail for detail. Okay, but I'm sorry. Why do you think he didn't know what to say back? Like, why do you give him that? Why do you give him that? I think he just didn't expect it coming from me. I think you probably don't really.

I think you're probably not really seeing him for who he was. Literally, he asked for details. A regular person that didn't think that this was coming, that thought that this was inappropriate, would have shut it the fuck down, would never have asked for details, okay? Do you not know men? Oh my gosh. I'm sorry

So he's like Give me more details Yes So obviously I did give him more details Because I wanted something to happen Okay Do you not know men Oh my god

What do you should say I'm sorry So he's like Give me more details Yes So obviously I did give him more details Because I wanted something to happen Okay, but I'm just telling you because you got a little baby in your belly.

I'm a mom. Just remember this story and listen to it when your kid, when you have a kid and they're in school and they have teachers and think to yourself if you found this shit on your kid's phone when she was 16. Okay, wait. So he starts asking for details and then what happened? Sorry. So I tell them all the details. We were basically at school and they have a faculty bathroom, like restroom. and it was in a separate side of the building where not a lot of people would pass by.

So I met him there in my dream, obviously. And I told him detail by detail, like, he was like caressing my body and then just started eating me out. And I sucked his dick and then we fucked like just like that. And I told him. And while he was like, well, like he kind of said it's surprising to him because I was so young that how I would like think that way about things. And I was just saying, sorry. I know you're trying to find some sort of decency in this man. I think he knew exactly what he was fucking doing.

Sorry, I'm sorry. There was, like, him even saying that is like baiting you. I'm sorry. I, and I will say saying things out loud now and like analyzing everything. Of course, it was a really fucked up situation. Yeah, wait until you hear it back when you're listening to it. So he says to you, oh, I'm so surprised. You're so young.

You're thinking about this. And then, you know, and then what? so we pretty much started like chatting almost every night when I was home and he was was he married by the way yes yes wife and three kids and I actually met her and everything because we would have a lot of events in school it was really weird yeah but you know maybe hot too for you right in a weird way these kinds of very salacious naughty sometimes very inappropriate things could wind up and this is why you could get really wired in the most fucked up ways by situations like this because they're so supercharged in many

different ways and even if it's wrong if you like it and that could almost be a part of it sometimes that you do know the wife and he is your teacher and it's a real mind fuck what's going on here yeah yeah so how do you wind up in bed with him we actually didn't go to a bed physically we actually flipped in a car. Of course. And it was his car. That's where all I always laugh about cheating sex and cars. It's always the funniest thing to me that these professionals.

You're not a professional. You're a young girl that's being like taken advantage of by an older man. It's like like this is like jail time for this guy. You're in the back of the car. But this is a professional cheating on his wife with his student in a car in some parking lot. Crazy shit. It's crazy. And so, but who sort of said, okay, let's meet?

What happened? Like you were just sexting so much? that it just got to the point where you're like you guys had to meet up? It just got to a point where whenever he had a free period, like during, or a free block throughout the day, he would tell me to go visit him and he would give me a pass back to class. So we kind of would play around a bit when we were alone in his classroom. Like what? Like you finger you and stuff?

Yeah, like you would finger me. We'd kiss. I touched his penis and everything. But nothing actually happened inside the classroom. No, that's happening inside the classroom. That's a thing. That's no different than him fucking you. I'm sorry, there's no difference.

You think just because he didn't put his dick in that his fingers are any different and he's making out with you? Oh, my God. There's no difference. That's something. Sorry. Oh, my God. So then he started offering to take me home.

I used to walk home. It was like three blocks away from my high school. So he would take me home after school and on the route to going home. like we would always do a detour by my house and there was a Catholic church that was always empty. You can't make this shit up. Oh, my God. And that's where you'd pull.

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Oh, my God. And now, listen, I feel like there are some people that are listening to this story and they're like really irritated by the fact that I'm just not letting you tell it so they could get turned on by the teacher's student scenario. But because this is real fucking life, sorry, I got to cock block your witties here, okay? Because this is as a grown adult who knows better. Like, this is a highly inappropriate situation.

I don't turn people on by non-consensual stuff. I believe this was non-consensual. you're too fucking young. Like I said, when you get off the phone, go Google 16 year old girl and look at her. And the whole scenario is wrong on so many levels. And it's literally like the stuff that people go to jail for. So I can't let the story go on like it's a hot story. It's an inappropriate one. But it definitely set you up for your future. How long did you see him for? Up to my, so I met him when I was a sophomore and they went out all to like my senior year. Did anyone in the school find out or did you tell any of your girls?

girlfriends because I don't know how you keep that to yourself at 16 girls have big fucking mouths. So I did tell my best friend at the time and she thought it was insane, but she never said anything. And people did know that I was really close to him because I was getting a lot of tutoring from him. And pretty much, I was very, I was pretty involved in school. So they never questioned it. But he did get arrested the year after I graduated because, He was missing with another girl that graduated before me. And she reported him.

I don't even know what to say to that because you could have started off this whole situation like this. I knew that that was like in this like he should have been arrested for you. The fact that there's somebody else that, you know, is yeah, of course, right? There was someone before you. There was someone after. Eventually he just got fucking busted. But you know, so you, so eventually he winds like getting busted because this is what

he did. Like I said, the reason why he's on kick. Everything that he was doing was 100%. he was on a mission to fuck whichever girl would come his way. And that's what he was doing. At all times, he was like the R word and put I-S-T at the end. Okay, that's what he was.

Highly inappropriate. Sorry. So, all right, so you're with him. No one ever finds out. Now, is that when you started to be really into older guys? Because here it is. You have this guy who's way older, very experienced. He's a married man.

And you have all this stuff going on. And how is a guy? guy in high school going to compare to that it's not going to it's there's no way right they didn't have a chance it's it was really fucked up because i still had a boyfriend at the time too so you were so you were cheating and that's also wiring you into having this affair when you get older yeah that makes sense now yes let's put it up have you ever been to a therapist before i have i have actually but i never confess those things yeah you need to be honest with your therapist that's the fucking points. Okay. So after that, who are the other older? So do you strictly start going out with just

older guys? You had a boyfriend at that time. He never found out though that you were cheating on him. No, he never found out. Never. Okay. Okay. So after graduating, I started working as a salesperson. And I was, it's a pretty men dominant industry and I was the only woman in that office. And I was, this. So I would get a lot of clansel and whoever tipped me the most, I was like, might as well. So I kind of started sleeping around for money. What? Did you tell me these things ahead of time? I don't remember. I did not.

So how does it turn to like you're sleeping with them and they're giving you money? Like how does that change? Like how does that happen? It's one thing, listen, I worked in offices with a lot of guys and a lot of people hook up and that's just stuff that happens. but where does the money come into play? How? So when I was helping them out with their transactions, like at the office, they would try to, like,

make comments saying, hey, let me take you out. We can be here and this and that. So we would exchange phone numbers and I would meet up with them on the weekends. And a lot of them were married. But yeah, that's how we would meet up at a hotel or a hotel and we'd just do it. But let me ask you this. Were you just like horny to keep reliving that, like, situation? because it's very similar to the teacher thing, what's going on in this scenario, if you ask me,

is it just somehow you were wired to get horny in those situations? Because listen, when you're at work and you're going through stuff with clients, like, who's like, you know, horny? I don't know. There's normally there's like a switch. Why are you getting like, you're talking these people and you're like getting so horny for all these people? Do you think it's because it was like similar to the teacher thing and you were wired that way? I think it had to do with my first experience, yeah, with the teacher, but also I grew up in a very restricted Christian home. So I hid a lot of everything, like everything I did. Like I didn't even, I wasn't ever sat down and said like, hey, this is what sex is. No, I figured everything out myself.

So I kind of hid all the time. So I found that hot, like sneaking around was always like hot to me. Of course. Think about it. It's all those things. When you are creating, the stories that you are creating are very similar to the one with your teacher and the one. And then if you have no story being told to you by your parents, how else do you learn? You learn through that first experience big time.

So now you're like literally like at a job. Older men are coming in. Can I just ask you what the job is? I'm sure it's a common job. It was not going to out you. What were you doing that you're like, like, where you're a bank? salesperson for, no, I was a salesperson for a roofing company. Okay, so these guys would come in. Were they contractors? They were contractors. Those guys are hot, by the way. Those guys are hot. They are.

I like those manly man men guys. So like the contractors and the workers would be coming in. Those were the guys you were dealing with? Yes. Oh, so you had a slew of super hot guys coming in. And they, and you're hot and they're like all day at work around dudes. and they start flirting with the hot girl in that office. And you wind up sleeping with a lot of them. Yes. And it was kind of funny at the time because my dad worked in that same office, but no one, like he never, he never knew, but they would always tell him how good of a job I was doing in the office. The guys that were banging you. Yeah. And a lot of them were married too. Yep. A lot of them were married and had kids. And that was a turn on to you. You're being honest.

Yeah. Honestly, it was to me. Yeah, there was something about cheating sex for you that was. And unfortunately, that sometimes is the case. I think a lot of it too was because I didn't want anything serious either because I was still doing my own thing and I felt free. So I was like, yeah, let's go. Right.

No strings attached. How would they start giving you money? Did all of them or some of them or how many of them were giving you cash and like around how much? It was around maybe 300 for just. just like the night, like two hours or so. But was it a set thing where you would tell them that or they just throw it to you? Because it doesn't sound like you're escorting or anything, right?

Like it's not illegal. They were just being nice because they had cat money and you're talking to them and they're like, oh, here's some cash kind of thing. Like more sugar baby thing. Yep. I never asked for it. They would just give it to me. And honestly, they would even give me tips at work too.

Even when I wasn't doing anything, they would just give me tips because I was the only woman there. They were taking care of you. They were like doing shit like that, right? Yeah, I get it. Oh, my goodness. Okay, let's get to your main story now. So somehow you wind up with a partner, right? Eventually.

And let's get to the point where you're with the partner that you cheat on with, with this guy that you get pregnant with. Yeah. So I moved out of state. This was around COVID time. And I decided that I wanted to make a change in my life. So I moved up north and I met someone on a dating app. We quickly connected.

and got married. I was married for about two years. And I started working at this industry that I'm working at now, and I met this guy, again, older than me. My partner at the time, my ex-husband, was actually around my age. And he was very inexperienced. And I don't want to sound like a bitch, but his fake was really small. But I stayed.

Yeah, it's okay. It was small. It's just a fact. And you wanted something a little bit bigger. Listen, he might have thought your tits were. small. We're allowed to have preferences, okay? And you're, you, you wanted something a little bit bigger. Listen, he might have thought your tits were too small. We're allowed to have preferences, okay? Yeah. So honestly, like when we were dating, my ex-husband and I, when we were dating

before we got married and everything, we had great sex, but it was obviously always car size because he still lived with his mom. And at the time I was renting a room at one of my family's place, so we never had privacy. Yeah. But all of that changed. once we got married. I don't know. It just felt like kind of left behind. And he was just so caught up with everything that he wanted to do in his life. And I just felt neglected.

So I started with breaststitching elsewhere. He became really controlling when we got married. He didn't want me confiding in my family or friends. And like it was really weird. He wouldn't let me go out. He was okay for him to go out with his friends and everything and have best friends. But me, if I wanted to have a best friend and confide at them and tell them, hey, like, I'm going through this. or whatever it is, it was a big deal.

It was really toxic. He was not like that when we were dating. It was a complete 180. So I was like, what did I do? A lot of people, and listen, this happens with women all the time too, and it happens with men. People could be phony for a long time when it typically, the mask comes off at some point. And sometimes it's after they lock somebody down because they're not stupid. They know that they can't show their big old bad self until they lock it down.

And then once they do, this is. who I really am and people get duped all the time. Sorry. It's a fact of life. Yeah. So honestly, like, it was really hard for me at the time because I did witness the same kind of marriage with my parents. And because my mom stayed with my dad for such a long time, I, and I mean, I witnessed all the hurt that she went through. I was like, I don't want to be that person. So we got divorced, like, pretty quickly after getting married. Okay. And, but part of it was because of the affair too. Yeah, yeah.

Let's be honest. I was going to say, didn't you have this affair when you were with this partner? Yes. Okay. So let's go there. Yeah, so I feel like when everything was building up, like, in our marriage and it was like, it got really toxic. I just got tired of it.

And when I met this, my coworker, I thought he was hot. He was very, very hot. And I am from the South. And I don't really see a lot of, I guess, I want to say, like, more American men around me and I always wanted one. And he obviously, he's American and he had this fake country accent. And I was like, okay, yeah, I want you. Oh my God, he's like a cowboy.

Yes. Oh, God, that's so funny. Okay. So he knew that I was married. Like, I had my ring on at work all the time. I had pictures of me and my husband on my desk and everything. But he still, like, would compliment me on small things when we first met. He would be like, hey, you really have.

pretty eyes and pretty lips and this and that and I was like, whoa, I did not expect that from him because one, he was like training me at the time and I was pretty new to the company at the time and I was like, I don't know what to do because I'm married. But I eventually gave in, I traveled around with him for a couple of times to train and he tends to drink a lot of bourbon so he got me hooked on bourbon for a bit and we basically hooked up at a at a hotel on one of the traveling times that we had together so quick question though about him because did you know anything about his backstory as far as was he in a relationship when he was single what did you know at that time so at the time that time that I met him I did know I had asked him too

because he did compliment me and everything I'm like oh like I didn't notice a finger, sorry, a ring on his finger or anything. So I asked him like, oh, like, do you have any kids? Are you married? He's like, yeah. I'm actually divorced and I've been separated for this long and I don't have any biological kids. But yeah, like he's, he pretty much said that he's been on his own for the last two years.

And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Like, are you seeing anyone? He was like, no. I'm very focused on my job and everything. I'm like, okay, cool. But obviously the vibes that I was getting was completely different from what he was saying. know, focus on work, my ass. You were literally like, blow on me the whole time. So, yeah, I did know a little bit of him. Obviously, it wasn't until after that I got pregnant. I found out, like, the

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Yeah, so we'll get to that story because I know that it winds up that. What you knew then isn't necessarily what was actually going on. So somehow you wind up kind of in the same situation. You're like banging someone that is inappropriate. And now you're actually having an affair, but you've cheated before. It's not like this is new for you. either. You kind of have a pattern. I see a pattern in your life. Okay. Okay. And you're banging this guy now. Do you feel guilty? Because you are married now. So maybe that like me, do you feel guilty that you're cheating? Or do you, like, is your husband just been neglecting you for so long that you just don't even have any guilt about it? I, the first time that I did, like, that we have sex, I did feel guilty after. And I didn't stay with him that night. I went to my own room and I stood crying. And I was like, what did I do? Yeah.

But I, and I remember, like, confiding one of my best friends at the time. And I was like, hey, like, this happened. And she's like, honestly, I don't blame you for doing it because you're having such a rough time in your marriage. Yeah. It only makes sense that you wanted comfort somewhere else. But eventually, it did feel kind of shitty just because when I came back from traveling back home, I just see my husband. and I basically didn't like we had sex right before I came back home and then I had my husband eating out basically whatever the coworker finished on my pussy so I was like laying there and I was

like this feels good but I feel so bad right now if he only knew yeah so now so now how long does this affair go on? So it went on for, I would say, the last six, five months of my marriage. Where were you guys banging? Because the first time it happens on a work trip. But when you guys get back from that trip, do you wind up starting to hook up on your home turf? Yeah.

So whenever he would come visit around, he would come to, again, train me at work. But on the weekends, he would like to hang out with me. and my best friend at the time. So I would kind of make him excuse to my husband saying, hey, I'm going to hang out with some coworkers this weekend, just letting you know we're going up for a couple of drinks or whatever it is. And he'll be like, okay, whatever. Which, by the way, I ended up, like, he would tell me that he didn't want me to go out

with friends all the time. So I will still go. And there's this one time that I did go out with him, with my coworker and my best friend for drinks. And it was actually a work night. It was like a Friday. and my husband had my location. So he decided to show up to the bar unannounced

and was asking me who that was, like who my co-worker was. And I'm like, well, they're co-workers. So he introduced himself and everything. And he was just, like, pretty pissed off. And he's like, we need to go home. It was just a mess, honestly. But I'm sorry, what was the question?

Where are you guys banging you in this guy when he is in town? Is it in cars and hotels? Like, where are you guys doing it? It was in hotels, so he would always at a hotel in the right by me or by the office, and I would go meet him there after drinks and stuff. How old was he and how old were you at the time? I was, I was 23, and he was 40. Okay, cool.

So now you're hooking up, you're with him, you're seeing him all the time when he's in town, lying to your husband and stuff, and so eventually what happens? you get pregnant, right? Yeah, but I got pregnant after we divorced. So the way that everything like unfolded was that I did end up getting like very caught up in the affair where I ended up admitting to my ex-husband at the time. Hey, like I'm letting you know. I don't want to be with you anymore. I have strong feelings for someone else.

Oh my God. I've been speaking with someone else. Yeah. Oh, my God. And what did he say? He really believed that he could fix it. So we went to like therapy, counseling and everything. And I kept telling him like, no, like it's not going to change my mind.

Like I'm done. So yeah. Let me ask you this. Was it because you, were you done because you were just done with your husband and you'd rather be alone than be with him because he wasn't a good partner? Or was it like you're done because you want to be with this other guy? Did you have the hopes that you would be in a relationship with the other guy and you were so in love with him at this point? honestly

I think it was a bit of both like completely honest a bit of both I was really over my ex-husband at the time like the situation was just it was so repetitive I was so over it

I would tell him like where my needs needed to be mad he wouldn't change and it was annoying because he always wanted me to change but he wouldn't want to change and I'm like no this is a two-way thing

yeah yeah so and then obviously yeah the other part was me hoping that there would be more to this affair than just what it was at the time. So right. So you cop to your husband. He wants to fix it.

He doesn't want to automatically leave you. And he doesn't cop to cheating on you at that point either at all. You never found anything on his end. And so then how did you get divorced? Because you were just like, I don't want to work on this. I just want it was more your choice. Yes. Yes.

There is this morning where I literally just got up and got like a bag full of stuff. And I took my keys and I asked my friend to pick me up. because at the time he had taken, so we woke up and he heard me getting ready for work earlier than usual and saw that I was getting a bag ready. So he took my car keys away from me. Oh my God. He took my car keys away from me and he took my dog and put him in the car, hid my car in an abandoned house. And I didn't know where my car was. Oh my God, he's going crazy. Yeah. So I called my best friend. I asked her to take me up to take me to work. And then when I came back home, he changed all the locks. from the apartment.

It was a mess. Yeah, he was upset. He wanted to stay with you and you were like leaving him. You're lucky you didn't wind up in a car. These are reasons why people wind up on Dateline dead. Like seriously. And this is men and women. It's not like a man thing or a woman.

You know, like you see this happen all the time. If one partner wants to hold on and another partner leaves and there's a lot of messy stuff going on, people could go a little nutty at those points for sure. But it sounds like he was a super controlling person and he no longer had control of you. So that's going to make that kind of person go nuts. So and he's like doing crazy things. Like the fact that he's like stealing your dog and hiding cars. It's cucko. But love drives people

to do things like that as well as like murder their partners because of situations like this. So you're lucky you didn't wind up murdered. So but you wound up divorcing him and eventually got divorced. No kids, nothing with him. Correct. Correct. And so now like when you tell the guy that you're banging all this time like, oh, I divorced my husband. Did he, was he happy because he was like thinking he's going to be with you too and was like reciprocating those feelings or did he look at you like, holy fuck, I'm not ready for this shit. Because who knows what he's thinking?

Is he like maybe happy that you're married and he doesn't have to get involved with you, you know, and he's like happy status quo? Or did he want the relationship to go further to? What was his reaction? So when I told him that I divorced him and everything was done, he said, he said, that he was happy for me could be new what I was going through with that marriage. Right. You were confiding in him. Telling me. Yeah. You kept telling me obviously that I deserve better and all these things.

And I was like, yeah, whatever. So I did end up asking him after the divorce. I'm like, this might be too soon to ask, but where do you see us going from here? Because I need to know. Yeah, of course. And he did say at the time that he wasn't sure because apparently he was still getting over like a relationship that he was in prior to meeting me. So I understood and I say, you know, take the time you need, but I need an answer. So eventually, like, he still came to see me every, like, he would probably come to see me every, every two weeks since we were long distance. And he found out that there's an opportunity for me to move south, back south, because I was

up in the north. And he said that he thinks that it might be a good idea for me to go there since I had so much happen that I needed a fresh star. and I did take the opportunity. So it kind of gave us both like a kind of like a better place to be at because he was so scared of getting caught by my ex-husband still at the time.

He didn't want problems. So I'm yeah, like I'm here now and... Wait, is that where he lives though? Is he moving you closer to him? Nope, we are still on distance. Yeah, that's kind of telling. Okay, I was wondering. I'm like, where is he fucking moving her

away from him still or closer to him? because that tells you like where he's at as far as what he wants from you. So he moves you to another place, but it's still long distance. Now what? So eventually you get pregnant. Is that when things like sort of come up in this relationship next? No. So before I got pregnant and I moved to a new place, we did talk about getting more serious and how

to get married, like the traditional get married that have kids and all these things. And obviously that didn't happen. So I got pregnant. But what did he say when you were talking more serious and kept pushing for that kind of answer? What would he say? He was, yeah, he was open, like open to it. He said, we could do it this way and he would put like plans in face how a man would. And I was like, okay, whatever you want to do, I'll follow you because I do want to be with you.

So it was kind of like a waiting game for a while. Uh-huh. So I think right before that I got pregnant, I found out that I had PCOS and we thought that It would be like, it would take me a really long time to get pregnant. So I was on birth control. And one day he was like, I think that we should start trying for a baby, but maybe it won't happen a year or two from now. And I was like, okay, obviously us being dumb and not checking with a doctor or anything,

I got off birth control. And we like, fuck five times. And that's it. I got pregnant. And I was like, well, look, I'm pregnant now. And he was like, he was like shocked. Obviously we're a dog this. And so I had to tell him through like FaceTime.

He just looked at me. His stare was like, it was just a blank face. He didn't know what to do. He was like, okay. He was like, everything's going to be okay. And I'm like, okay. And then two weeks later, like, I noticed like throughout the time that we were texting, he was being very different.

And I'm like, why are you acting this way? Oh, my God. A lot of guys listening know why he was acting that way. I was like, I was like, listen. He's trapped. He's trapped. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

I was like if this was just like a thing for you when you didn't expect me to get pregnant and now I'm just like a waste to you, you need to tell me right now. Oh, your poor thing. Yeah. So he ended up telling me like the reason why he was acting that way was because he had a lot on his plate. He told me that he was still married and that he was currently still in the process of getting a divorce. and just a lot of, I guess, financial issues and that having a baby right now would make everything worse. And I was like, listen, I'm sorry, but you could have told me all of this a long time ago. And now because you're going through all of that, and now that I know about it,

is not going to stop me from not having the baby. But what's interesting is that, yeah, no, I get that. But what's interesting is, like, he's got to take some accountability for the fact that you guys specifically had a conversation. This is what it sounds like to me about having babies together. Like what was he like a fucking 15 year old playing house and just saying shit to you thinking like it can't actually happen? Because he literally got you guys like to me, it sounds like you guys had a joint discussion and made a joint decision to for you to go off birth control because you both wanted to have

a baby together. Correct. That's what it sounded like. So what the fuck did he think was going to happen? He's a dumb, dumb, he's a dumb, dumb. Exactly. So after everything, I even told him, like, you're acting like a child. I expected you to take more accountability for everything that's happened.

I'm not the only one who was involved in this. Like, I didn't fuck myself. You fucked me. Well, not only that. Listen, it's one thing if you were having an affair and you got it. But you guys, what flows my mind about this is because you guys had a specific conversation. You were on birth control. There was no way you were ever getting pregnant with this guy.

And then you guys have a specific conversation about you two having a baby a year from now, correct? And he says, why don't you go off birth control? What was that exact conversation? So, yeah, he had asked me to go off birth control because we both believe that I wouldn't get pregnant, that it would take like maybe two years or so. But he wanted you to go off so that it would happen quicker? I don't understand. What are the two have to do together?

Does he say, I want you to go off birth control because you can't get pregnant anyway? Or I want you to go off of birth control because I want to have a baby with you. And it's going to take a while. So let's start now. Which one of those two is their fucking answer. That's the second one. It's the second one. Yeah, that's what it sounded like.

Yeah, which is so beyond fucked up. What did he expect? And then you have a baby and he's like, oh my God. Yeah. So he didn't want to say it out loud, but I had kind of like forced him to say that he just didn't want the baby. He wanted me to abort the baby. And I said, no. I'm sorry, but we had conversations about this so many times. So I don't know what's changed. And because your situation's fucked up and I didn't know about it, why do I have to take accountability for your

actions? And not only that, he was having those conversations with you about having children with you while he was in the situation. He was the only one in the know. It's his own fault. He didn't take care of himself properly. You didn't have all the information. He did, though. He had all the information. He knew he was still married. He's probably still living with his wife. Is he still living in the house? Oh my gosh. I have a whole theory about that too. I see this day. I don't know where he lives. He's living with her. Okay. They're not even said divorce. They're not separated. He's like a fucking married man. Come on. After he told me that, I went crazy on Google looking for his information. And I found I found out that he did buy a house the beginning of his year and they're both of their names.

on the house. His and the wife. And I asked him about it because I'm like, I need to know what the fuck is going on. I need to know what I'm going to do. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Now you're like, he's your baby daddy. And what he say? He hasn't admitted anything to this day. And I still obviously feel like he's hiding things. But when I asked him about the house, he said, oh, those records are showing that because we're still physically separated. But the divorce hasn't finalized yet. No, no, no, no. A new property report. is not going to come up because of that. Listen, you know what would have been a better lie? Oh, I had to buy a house for my wife in the court settlement and the divorce settlement and I had to put my name on it because I'm paying for it, but we're actually divorced and that's a house I'm buying for my wife and I'm going to live someplace else. That would have been a better lie. What did he try and say? This is just because we're not divorced. The settlement's not, I don't know even what he said. Doesn't make sense. Nothing was ending up. Did you ever find like any of their social media to see if they're still like at Thanksgiving dinner together? So I found her, obviously, me being a girl.

I went crazy. I found a lot of their social media. So he has no social media whatsoever. Yeah, okay. Like at all. Okay. But she does. But she doesn't have any, any, like nothing new.

She hasn't posted like two years. Yeah, a lot of people stopped two years ago. Like, especially Facebook. Yeah. Huh? I wanted to contact her, but I don't want to make it a messier situation. Oh, God. So.

Well, let's not go there. Yeah, let's not go there just yet. Wait, but yeah, there's a ways to find out. I have, you literally saw that they just bought a house and it's in his name and her name in the beginning of this year. And his excuse was that what, that they're still separated so it's not separate on the deed or something? But he bought a new house.

I don't see how that makes sense. And to me, it doesn't make sense because when he told me that he was so married, that he said that they've been working on the divorce for the past. A lot of properties that he had. they're still trying to figure out what's going to be his and what's going to be hers. And I'm like, that makes no sense. When you're going through a divorce, you're not allowed to buy anything. Oh, really?

Yeah, I don't even know. Like, you're not supposed to buy like properties or cars or anything because they're, they're basically looking through all your financials to see. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, but he bought a new one, yeah. Huh? Yeah, and he bought a new car for himself.

So I was like, I don't, it doesn't make sense. I'm like, it's not heading up. I even asked him, I'm like, How'd you buy a house or how'd you buy a car if you were still going through all the divorce stuff? What is he said? And he got irritated and he was like, oh my God, I don't know why you keep going like going around about this conversation. And I'm like, oh, you know what, whatever. But obviously I did catch him in a lie.

I just want him to admit. What's the lie? What's the lie? Oh, that he wasn't fully divorced. Yeah. And you know what Judge Judy says. Once you catch someone in a lie, they're like a fucking liar. Like how do you believe anything then?

He was basically lying to you the whole time. And anybody, listen, if he, a little reassurance and a little proof goes a long way, right? Imagine your partner's coming to you thinking you're cheating and you're completely not. Wouldn't you show them every bit of proof to put them at he's to let them know like, no, you're wrong. Like here it is. The fact that you're going to him begging for the truth and he's just getting irritated as opposed to proving to you. No, look, I totally am divorced and, you know, coming up with actual evidence to show you the truth. of the situation so that this conversation could be put to rest and everything could go back to usual

shows that he's fucking lying he gets defensive and he gets irritated because he doesn't have that proof because he's probably still married and he's probably just fucking cheating and he's probably not divorced at all he's not even separated as far as I'm concerned most likely yeah so I even I got to the point where I even asked him give me the case number so I could look at it and he was like no I'm not going to do that because I thought that you trusted me I'm like no You lie to me. How can I trust you? Yeah.

I need evidence of something. Okay, we got 10 minutes. Okay, where do you stand with him now? I know where you're staying with the baby. It's in your belly, or do you know if you're having a boy or girl? It's a boy. Oh, boys are great. I have a son.

I love boys. They're so much fun. But anyway, okay, so does he, do you still talk to him? Like, what is going on with him now and with you? I do still talk to him. I sleep together still? other still? No, I haven't seen him since. I told him that I was pregnant. Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm supposed to see him in October. I don't know how that's going to turn out, but we'll see. How did he feel when he

knew for sure you're not getting rid of this baby? Because he obviously tried for you to not have it for a long time. Yeah. He was pretty upset with me. He didn't want to talk to me. He was always irritated when we spoke and he kind of told me that I was being selfish for making that decision and not taking him into consideration. But like I said, I did tell him, I'm like, you put yourself in the situation. I didn't put you in the situation. Yeah, he was stupid. If you would have told me beforehand, I wouldn't have been with you, period. Yeah, not only that. At that point, you were thinking about yourself. You wanted to have this baby and you did not want to have an abortion. And it was a selfish decision, but that's okay in that situation because you guys are not together. And if he didn't

want you to be put, if he didn't want to be put in this position where he had no say in the fact of whether he could have a baby or not, he shouldn't have told you to get off birth control. That's, he has to take accountability for that. Listen, I do think it's a tough situation when you have a couple who has sacks, whether it's teenage kids or anybody that's having an affair or anyone that gets pregnant with somebody one night stand and the woman gets to choose, do I want this baby or not. The guy kind of has no say. It is tough for the guy because imagine he wants the baby and the girl's like, no, it's her choice. What if he doesn't want the baby and the girl does? It's her choice. The guy really has no say in it at all. But like this guy was so fucking dumb because you were

on birth control and you didn't, you had no intention of getting pregnant with him. That wasn't the vibe. But he started having those conversations with you and he led you down that path and he made you get off birth control and told you to. So it's not to say that you're totally unaccountable in this. You both wound up in the situation together. But he has to take accountability for what he did to put himself in this position. Right. He got himself fucked. Because I get why he doesn't want the fucking baby.

I get it. And I get why you want it. So at this point, yeah, you're both being selfish. He's being selfish, being mad at you because you're having the baby and you're being selfish having the baby. But you're allowed to be. You're two separate people. You're not in a fucking marriage together.

There's no compromise going on here. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah. So I have no idea what's going to happen. Honestly, I've thought about contacting the wife or ex-wife many times, but I just don't have- What is your goal? Let me ask you this, okay, because I can't tell you stuff like that.

I could have opinions about it, but let me ask you this. What would be the point? What would be your end goal for that if you're completely honest? Like when you have these fantasies about calling the wife or you think about it as an option, what is the goal of that action? to me it's more of like closure because I feel like I'm not getting a whole truth out of things so if he is lying to me about everything I would want to know so I don't continue being with him especially when like having a baby and everything like it's a lot I rather not deal with him

right so really what it is is you feel like if you contacted the wife she would validate that you would get the real story from her you're hoping to call her up get her on the phone and have her explained to you like what's really happening with her and her husband. Now, but don't you think, and I'm just wondering, like that maybe there's other ways for that. Listen, I'm like the best detective that there is. Okay, I feel like I could help you out and find this guy's wife or the sister or the brother. I mean, there are ways. I would try everything you can to find out the truth to get the closure that you need.

I personally feel like he has given it to you in so many different ways, but I totally understand as a woman, I've been in your position. Everybody has, when you want closure, you want definitive, you need something really definitive, even though everybody listening knows the fucking truth, okay? And you do on some level too. You just need to know for a fact, for that closure. And I understand that 1% of you that has to have that. But I do think that there's other ways to get it besides calling up this poor woman, okay,

who is fucking at home. God knows what she's got going on to have her. life be blown up by this situation? Maybe try to, I mean, have you ever told him that you were thinking of talking to his wife? Maybe that was that him. Yeah, I did. And when I told him, he like literally, like, yell, that means you better not, you're going to make this worse than what it is. He said that it might make the divorce process a bigger mess than what it is and she could probably take more from him. That is true. Listen, let's say his story is true and he is getting a divorce and they're still in the middle of it.

That is true for sure. Absolutely. And I did think about that too, which has kind of stopped me from looking further because I feel like I found the most information I can. You're in a tough position because, you know, having a baby is more expensive than you could ever fucking even imagine at this point. You probably haven't been to buy-bye baby. Me and my son have a joke.

It's like we call it, hello baby, bye-bye money. That's the name of that should be the name of the store. Okay. It's not buy-bye baby. It's buy-bye money, okay? Because all you're going to be doing is. spending your fucking money on this baby. You just do not believe how much of a consumer.

I feel like I already am. Yes. You are going to have to be for that effing baby. Okay. So what are you doing as far as that is concerned? Because you have this guy that doesn't really want anything to do with the baby. Have you guys been talking about any kind of help or anything? What is he going to do for you, if anything, for the baby?

So he has already told me that I think when I did tell him about me, contact his wife. He told me that if he's if he asked me if I was doing that because I was worried about the financial state of of like me having the baby and everything. And I said yes, of course. So he said I could pay you X amount of dollars every month. To shut your face. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, I don't know if I'm saying the right thing, but I would I would I would take that because if you take the other scenario, which is going to just find out for your closure at the end of the day, if you blow up his wife, his life as much as that can if he actually is still married, turn everything, he might never give you a fucking dime and really shut you off and you get nothing. And you need help. You kind of do.

You're a single woman, right? Having a baby, I don't know how much money you make a year, but you just can't anticipate how much money you're going to need for that kid that you can, you really need his help and you should try to keep things amicable with him so that you can set that up. But make sure you get everything in fucking writing. This has to be something really secure for you. Yeah. How much was he willing to give you? Did you know?

Did you talk about it? He said 1,300 and I told him that that wasn't enough. Yeah, 1,300 a week or a month? He said 1,300 a month. And I was like, that's not even enough for daycare. I need more. But it's better than nothing, okay? Listen, that's better than nothing.

So you got a literally, you have a couple months before you have a baby. you got to continue to talk to this person and start sort of working with him in a way that will get him to be maybe less defensive, right? Maybe stop with them threatening to call the wife and be like, we need to figure this the fuck out. If you don't want me to call your wife and you want to keep things status quo, instead of $1,300, give me $2,000 a month and that's it or something. Start negotiating.

You got to start working this out before you have your baby because it's like, couple months and the baby's on its way. Yeah. I think you, I don't necessarily think you should focus on closure right now. Does he ever plan on, my last question is, does he ever plan on having a relationship with this baby? At first he didn't, but right now he's eased up to it and he's made comments saying like, oh, my son's going to be like this and my son's going to be like that.

Does he have kids with his wife? He does not. Oh, okay. So, yeah, there's no closure. with this guy, okay, really, because he's the father of your baby. He's your baby daddy. Whatever you want to fucking call him, right? So I would work more towards trying to work things out between the two of you where you're both happy. You need to let go of your relationship with him and assume that he is with this wife. And you have to let go of that yourself and let him do whatever with her. And all you need to

focus on is getting you and your baby set up in a way that will be most beneficial for your baby and start figuring out how he will be involved with that baby's life, how he could financially help you, and how you could keep the peace between the two of you so that your child has the best situation all around, as opposed to getting closure for some part of you that's like, oh my God, he was fucking lying to me. That's all drama. You know what I mean? What's happening in your life is real life. You're having a baby. There has to be as a little amount. a drama in that baby's life. So forget about your fucking closure and start figuring out like this new beginning for yourself with this guy in your life somehow, you know, how it's going to work.

Because that's what's most important. Thank you. Okay. I love your story. I'm very invested. I'm so happy you're having a baby because like regardless, you know, the baby's going to change your life for the better. Maybe 10 years from now you look back, oh my God, I can't believe this happened and I had this baby. but you're going to be like, if that didn't happen, I wouldn't have had this human being every day of my life. Do you know what I mean? Like, you will see it that way when you have your child. And so that's a great thing. But get things settled before and keep me posted. We need a six month when your baby is six months, you're old. Or you get your clothes or whatever. Like, we need the next chapter. I need to know what happens. Even if you just email me and let me know, keep me posted and good luck with

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