Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1299 - Matt & Marie Recently Started Hotwifing

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

Matt and Marie recently started hotwiging and they both called in to talk all about it.  Tune in to hear all the details including what his wife did that made him realize he was into hotwifing, how and when he let her know about his kink and what they did about it at first, how and when he got her into meeting a guy in person, the first guy they met up with, what went down and how and why Matt didn't feel right about their first few encounters, the first time Marie did fully hook up with the guy and exactly what went down and how he felt about the whole experience, the next guy she hooked up with who was very well hung and what went down, their reclaiming sex and the emotions he has had afterwards, how he feels about his wife now because of what they have gone through, how Marie felt when he first brought up hotwifing and why she went along with it at first, when she realized she was really into hotwifing herself, how she felt about having two guys at same time, what changed for her in their relationship ship since opening it up plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF MY BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics MARIE & MATT plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: http://loadboost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Holiday Sale PLUS $50 off! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get your first month of Bluechew FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2536-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use code ANONYMOUS69 to get 50% off your yearly pass plus a 14-day money-back guarantee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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go to the description. Click on the link. The link to my Patreon is there. The link to buy my book is over there. Everything is in the description. Okay, today I have on Matt and Marie, I'm obsessed with this story and you're going to be obsessed with it too. It is a newbie story. And in the beginning before we start taping, he's like, I don't know, you know, we only have a couple stories. I don't know if I'm going to fill up an hour. Oh my God. This guy could have filled up two hours because his newbie story was just so interesting and he was so in touch with so many things that were going on inside of him. Besides the fact that they started hot wiping and the journey into hot wiping, he really talked about how he felt through it all. And I think

think that's what's so super interesting in this episode. They are newbies. They just crossed the line, but they had two really hot experiences with guys. They've been to some swingers clubs. They have a lot on the horizon. But his whole journey, their whole journey from being a vanilla couple that really was like, had a good sex life and everything. But he talks about how and when he realized he was into the whole hot wiping situation. That's a really interesting story. And then he talks about how and what he brought up to her and you know how he got her to start fantasizing about it at first and then they went online and they started looking for people and then eventually they crossed the line but this whole journey took many many years and that's what's super interesting as well as in the beginning when they met their first

couple of guys he had really bad feelings like he didn't feel right about it but he still pushed through and he talks about how he felt and why he pushed through a whole thing is just like great i don't want to give too much away it's a great newbie story you're going to learn so much they're like a really cool couple. Marie comes in at the end and answers a few questions that I had from her after talking to Matt, but most of the episode is me talking to Matt and him explaining their whole journey and it's like great. It's so good. It's such an interesting episode. So I'm going to get right tuned to be right back on with Matt and Marie. Hey Matt and Marie. Marie sitting quietly next to you and she's going to come on at the very end. We're going to get her on the phone to

answer some questions, but you're going to tell us most of your story, Matt, right? You and your wife just started hot wiping. I personally love a newbie story because I can't tell me how many times I get emails from couples nowadays. So many couples are listening to my show. It's very different than when I first started. And they're telling me like they're learning a lot and a lot of couples are looking to get into this lifestyle.

And, you know, so there's a lot of couples that were like you because you guys are newbies and you just switched over, but they haven't crossed the line yet. But you just did. You have a couple hotwifing stories. You've been to some swingers clubs. But that's what I love about a newbie story because you remember everything. that happened right before this. And I feel like that's very great, like important information to give other newbies and people that maybe are behind you and haven't crossed the line yet, you know?

Yeah, exactly. Happy to be on. Love your show. Yeah, just basically a little backstory. Wife and I met when we were 20 and 19. How old are you now? We're 47 and 45. Okay. So been together forever. Yep. Okay. And. Yeah, everything has been great. We've always had an act of sex life. Really, so early on in our relationship, I think we had dated for about two years. We broke up for three or four months, and she dated somebody else in between. And I think, like, looking back now, maybe this was probably 10 or 12 years ago. He started jerking off thinking about it? No, I'm just joking. No, no, but kind of. We were laying in bed. Yeah. And she told me that he went down on her.

They didn't have sex, but I didn't know that detail before, or maybe she told me and it just wasn't striking at the time. Yeah. But when she told me, I just got incredibly turned on. I was like really jealous. I'm not a normally jealous person. Uh-huh. But I was incredibly turned on. And so like, I think that was kind of planted the seed.

You know, this was 10, 12 years ago. And also early on into our dating when we were, you know, two or three years in. We started making sex tapes. Oh, that's fine. And what did you do with it? Just to watch them yourself? Yep. Uh-huh.

It just became like my personal porn collection. I just always loved watching her. Yeah. Did she like watching too or no? No, she never liked watching. Okay, that's okay. But she did it with you. She was down.

Yeah, she entertaining. Your wife's hot. I've already seen pictures of her, so I'm sure she wasn't self-conscious getting on camera. No, but she doesn't like watching herself, which I find incredibly weird. So, yeah, go back to the 10, 12 years ago when she told me that,

her ex had gone down on her, I think that was really kind of the beginning of like, I wanted to know more and more details of things she had done with past boyfriends. Oh, right after that. Now, I just got to ask you a quick question because I don't know if I heard you right. Like, because you said something about not being jealous, but did you say you were jealous and turned on at the same time or just turned on not jealous at all? No, I was jealous. Right. So you were both, right? Like you had that thing that other people talk about where like and the jealousy is a part of it, right? Like you're kind of jealous but like super turned on at the same time. Exactly. Yeah, and like jealousy is like painful, but it's like a huge turnoff. Yeah. Why not? It's better than just being jealous with nothing, don't you mean anything? Yeah, exactly. Plenty of people are jealous and not horny at all. It's a very normal, you know, human emotion. Anyway, go on. So yeah, she over the next couple years, she gave me, you know, more details about things she had done in her past. And I just really turned me on. Also, like, still jealous. And then we had to, you had to, you know,

to go back through our messages to find, but yeah, it was so it was eight years ago when we finally, when I finally introduced the idea of her fucking other guys. Like for real? For real. Okay. Did she ever though, and I first probably save this for her, but I'm going to forget this question. Like, did she ever during that time when you were like pushing her for details? Because I know as a woman, I have had guys ask me for details, but I always assume that they

wanted me to like play it down and I would not say great things because I didn't want to make them jealous or like because you just would never think that the guy really actually wants to hear the details like did she ever question you pushing for the details was she afraid to tell them to you or was she just like willing to share so she's by nature she's much more jealous than i am okay i think she was pretty reserved in that nature trying to not you know make it as good as it was exactly though that's what you want to hear that's what the weird thing is the weird part of it is Yeah. Well, and then also the big problem was, I mean, now we're talking, you know, 26, 27 years ago. She doesn't really remember many details. So, yeah, so eight years ago, I brought up the idea to her. And, you know, we kind of dirty talked and fantasized about it. But, you know, never anything really happened until I think it was about four years ago. We created a count. I love, listen, I got to say, you're talking a lot of years here, but I kind of love that in that. You know, it's kind of like very real life, right? I mean, it's not like you told her, and, you know, it's like the movies the next day.

You know, she's hot wiping for you. I mean, this sounds like it took a really long time. It was a slow burn and it took a while. Oh, it was a slow roll. Yeah. Yeah. I was pretty patient, but also, you know, I kept it on the burn. Just to, you know, we had a lot of fun just with fantasizing about it.

So we signed up on a website and we, you know, have a few, we had a bunch of guys contact us. but we went back and forth with a few of them, and we never made any plans to meet them or anything. Nothing really came of that. And then we had a little, you know, a few bumps in the relationship road, and so kind of backed off until earlier this summer, we got back on that website and, you know, updated our profile and started contacting, or guys started contacting us.

And it's funny, a few of the ones, or a couple of the ones from four years ago reached back again. You're kidding. No, no, same guy. So, like, that's one thing we learned. Like, there's this site in particular. They give validations for, you know.

What site was it, by the way? You could just tell. It was Cassidy. Okay, cool. Uh-huh. Yeah. In our area, that's the biggest one around. Yeah, cool.

Go on. So, yeah, these guys contacted us again. And it was actually your show that I was able to convince her to finally meet one of these guys. How? Listen to an episode a couple months ago. It might have been early summer where the guy got his wife a massage. Uh-huh.

I think I remember they were newbies too. Yeah, they were newbies. And I don't think she played with the guy. Yeah. She just got like an erotic massage or something. Yeah. So yeah, anyway, one of these guys reached out and he said, hey, I offer hot wives massages. And so that kind of, I had my wife listen to that episode.

And I was like, what do you think about that? It sounds like a really good idea. And she's like, yeah, it actually doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. So it took a little more convincing, but she finally agreed to meet this guy for a drink. And so poor thing. She was so nervous, like getting ready. We went to dinner and had a couple drinks first and then went to meet him. She was just a wreck.

She was so nervous. It was really cute, actually. So we go meet this guy. And before the date, I dared her. I was like, all right, you're there for the night is to give him a kiss goodbye. She's like, okay. And she's like, yeah, that's not happening.

But so we go. And we have a sign. I was like, well, if you want to kiss him, I'll have you walk into the car. Just give me a sign. We'll do cheers. Yeah. She's like, okay.

And so we hang out with this guy for like an hour and a half. Super cool, dude. Super like put us at ease immediately. Just really good conversation. And then as the night wraps up, we're leaving. And no chairs, but she puts in a piece of gum. And I'm like, why are you putting in a, or what's the gum for?

And our drinks were gone at this time. So she puts her hands up and she's like, cheers. So I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay, I see it. So we get to the parking lot and he's parked just right, you know, in between the lanes from us, so not, you know, 20 feet away or so. And I was like, well, why don't you walk him to the car? And so she goes over there and I'm standing at my car and totally,

unexpected. I get hit with like, holy shit. Like, I lost my life. Oh, my God. What the hell is going on? Can you just get back here? And so bad, I wanted to call out to her and be like, okay, babe. She was there like, I don't know, five or six minutes.

But it felt like forever? Oh, my God. I was dying. Like, absolutely dying. Because they're like laughter and laughing and flirting. Yeah. Yeah. And so, I mean, eventually she comes back and she was like just super excited and she kissed him and from that point on she was like yep i'm ready and i was like okay well i'm not oh my god that's so funny

she asked if i was okay and i was like not really no no i'm really not well listen i you know for a guy i think that's like really great that you could you know you you knew that and you cop to it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And it was, I mean, it was a tough pill to swallow. Yeah, of course. Especially since she was willing at this point. And I'm like, okay, well, let's go on another date. You know, maybe it'll get easier for me to see you kiss somebody another time. Okay. You want to take it a little slow for you. Yeah. Okay. I want to see if I was going to be able to handle this. Yeah. Not really? No, no. Really not.

Well, listen, I, you know, listen, for a guy, I think that's like, like really great that you could, you know, you, you knew that and you copped to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And it was, I mean, it was a tough pull to swallow. Yeah, of course. Especially since she was, she was willing at this point. And I'm like, okay, well, let's go on another date. You know, maybe it'll get easier for me to see you kiss somebody another time. Okay. You want to take it a little slow for you. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to see if I was going to be able to handle this. Yeah. And so. I'm obsessed with your story.

So we contact the second guy who reached out to us also four years ago. And like right away, my wife, she's like, he's dangerous. I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, he's dangerous. He's too hot? Yeah. Yeah, she just, there was something about him. She knew she liked that dude.

And so we meet him for drink. And this is probably, I don't know, three weeks later, something like that. And the same thing. She was so nervous. She's like a nervous wreck. And it's right up until we meet this guy. we start talking to him and same thing the guy's just super laid back really nice guy totally respectful and we had same same thing we spent about an hour and a half with him just just talking and

chatting and going through his backstory and for this night I was like okay well since you didn't the the cheers didn't work if you want to kiss him why don't you put in a piece of gum she's like okay so the night wraps up and we pay for our drinks and she doesn't no gum no cheers no nothing And so I'm like, all right, well, we're about to walk back to the car. And she shows me her purse and she's like, gum. I was like, huh? Oh, okay. So she doesn't pull out gum or anything.

She just gave me the sign. Yeah. And so I'm like, okay, well, let's walk him back to his car. And this way, you know, I didn't know if it was the distance that I was so uncomfortable with or what. Yeah, I got it. But this time I just stopped at the back of the car and then let her walk him, you know, to his door. and same thing. She gives him a kiss.

One other detail. I dared her this time, instead of a kiss, I dared her to tell him that she wasn't wearing any panties. She was wearing a skirt. And obviously I couldn't hear anything they said. But she gave him a kiss. She came back really fast. It was probably like two minutes.

And I was sitting there thinking like, okay, I checked my clock. And I'm like, all right, just five minutes to go. And I'm like, ready to ready. for it to hit again, and it didn't because she came back so fast. Yeah. Well, she ended up telling me, she did tell him she wasn't wearing any panties, and that he felt. And as soon as she was like, I got to go, he's like, oh, my God, you're killing me.

And so that time it went pretty well. I was pretty happy, but I still wasn't sure I could actually go through with it. So you're going to hate me for this. I was like, okay, let's go one more date and still with somebody else. see if it just gets easier for me every time. Yeah, that's okay. Because you didn't want to, like, go for it with anyone yet. That's okay.

I think that that's smart. Yeah, I mean, this is an eight-year plan. I didn't figure we made it in the last month. Yeah. So we made arrangements with a third guy that hit us up. And this is, again, probably two, three weeks later. And this was the only guy that didn't have validations. The first guy had like 40 or 45.

The second guy had like 25. And he didn't have any validations, but his profile was like super in detail. And it looked like, you know, he said he was getting back in the lifestyle. So it looked totally legit. Well, we go to dinner. We had planned to meet him after dinner. And like, he just ghosted us. No show, no contact if we were going to meet or anything.

And we're like, okay, well, we have two options now because we had already arranged to be away from kids for the night. And I was like, okay, we can either go to the club or there's a lifestyle club like five minutes from my house, which is pretty convenient. I said, we can go to the club or we can hit up guy number two and see if he can meet last minute. She's like, okay, guy number two. And my heart drops. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. You didn't want her to pick that. That was more scary for you.

Oh, it freaked me out. So she sent the message. And we're like, okay, if he doesn't respond within like a half an hour, we're just going to go to the club. And I'm sitting there like, we're just keep refreshing our phone, just like dying. Like, please don't respond. Please don't respond. He responds. He's like, oh, yeah, I can meet.

My heart absolutely sunk. Like, I've never had a panic attack in my life. You had one? Pretty sure I had a panic attack then. Oh, my God. That's crazy. So we agreed to meet at Old Chicago, kind of by where he lived. He doesn't live too far from us.

And I was like, okay, well, let's book a hotel room right there. And if we're feeling it, we can just invite him to our room. And so we're like, okay. So she finds this hotel right next to it. We go to check in. Kathy, this hotel she booked was like one of those room by the hour. Oh, my God. It was called Extended Stay, but oh, yeah, I know extended stay.

It was absolutely disgusting. Like, we came into the room and I'm just like, no. Like, I will pay for another room. This is not how, like, our first time is going to go down. Yeah, I can't get that. Fortunately, they refunded us. There was another hotel right there. So we booked that hotel.

We went up to the room real quick, and I'm like, like slamming beers. like I got to take this edge off. I'm still fully panicking. And we go to old Chicago, and sure enough, he shows up, and we chat for a little while. And it's kind of getting late, and he's not like a late night guy, and he doesn't drink. And so I asked him, I was like, hey, you mind giving us a minute?

And he's like, oh, yeah, and he ran to the bathroom. And I looked over at my wife, and I'm like, well, what do you think? And she's like, yeah, I'm down. And I was like, all right, well, let's give him room to our key. we'll go or a key to our room will go to the room and have him come up a couple minutes later. She's like, okay. So he comes back from the bathroom and we invite him. We're like, hey, would you like to join us in the hotel?

And he's like, yeah, absolutely. And so I give him the key and then we go to the room and like, I'm a mess. It's still like calming down a little bit. And she could not have been more calm the whole time, like oblivious to any of the stress that was going. and he knocks on the door and comes in the room and I give her like a nice big kiss and I turn her towards him and she gives him a kiss and instantly like everything melted away I had like everything was totally fine for me there was no jealousy and it was just pure hot wow well let me quick question I was just going to ask you you're so good at telling a story I'm not going to enjoy a few

one more time. Quick question though, this whole time while this is all happening, you're having all these like scary feelings. Are you kind of like have a Woody 2 at the same time as well? Like you're still turned on and that's what's driving you to go forward? No. No. During the panic attack, like there was zero turn on at all. I didn't want it to happen. I wanted him to cancel. Okay. But I was just telling myself, I'm like, I've been wanting this for eight freaking years. I'm not going to push me out right now. So really that was the driving thing. Like some part of you felt like, you know, maybe you will like it.

And you were right. I mean, come on. Yeah, I was like, suck it up. Like, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So really, yeah, we just kind of turned her back and forth and both made out with her as we undressed her. And then once we had her fully naked, I took a couple steps back.

I was like, hey, why don't you lay her on the bed? And she gave me this, like, devilish look that is so. I recorded all of this, obviously. And that's like one of my favorite parts of the video, her looking back with this, just devilish look like, you sure? Yeah.

And yeah, he laid her down and went down on her. And two minutes later, she's like, I want to fuck him. I'm like, okay. Did you have any rules, though, going into that? Like that, she wasn't supposed to fuck him or anything? Or like, no. No, no.

I mean, if we were going to invite him to the room. Yeah, of course. Yeah. He was a. But you hadn't had any boundaries. Like no rules. You can't do this without a kissing, like all that shit that some people have. Just, well, condoms.

Okay. We also made sure he was recently tested. And then, yeah, just no anal. Okay. Okay. So she says she wants to fuck him. Go back to the action. Yeah.

So I ask if he's got condoms. He grabs one and gets on top of her and starts fucking her. And I was like, she was in heaven. I was in heaven. And this is how much of a, like, respectful, like, true profession. this dude was. My wife was obviously, you know, in this other world right now. And I'm asking her, like, is that good?

Do you like that? How does it feel? And she doesn't respond. And I ask her, like, a question again. And she didn't respond. And so he immediately, like, caught on and changed positions to involve me. It was like, looking at the time, I didn't realize it. But looking back, it was like, he wanted to do everything he could to, like, include me.

And make sure you were comfortable. And that's what it's all about. Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, we both fucked her, you know, pretty good that night. And it was absolutely amazing. And so from then, after that night, it was, again, I had this kind of roller coaster of emotions, but it wasn't nearly as bad as that first time when it was just a kiss that I wasn't a part of. And I think that's what, like, my dilemma was, is that, you know, I wasn't a part of that kiss.

and I didn't know what was going on. And with this guy, I was a part of everything. So was the not knowing that was maybe what was they gave you all those weird bad feelings? Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Because you know how jealousy is if you don't know, your mind fills in the gap. And I'm like, are they planning their life together or she's leaving me?

Like, you know, what the hell's going on? Yeah, for sure. That plays the, not knowing certain things plays a situation, like plays apart in a lot of reasons why people go nutty about a lot of things. You know what I mean? it's the fear of the unknown is is yeah yeah for sure okay so it was amazing keep going you're doing so good keep talking so immediately after that she's like down to do it again and what about you at this point are you ready to go back or are you still like oh could we wait a little bit uh so that was ready so like the whole night was amazing but really like i think both of us that what we agree on like

the best part. So he left the room at like 1145. Uh-huh. We laid in bed. And so I wanted to fuck her again afterwards because I wanted to see like, oh, what is this reclamation sex? Yeah. So I did a couple of times. And I just felt the same. Like, I don't know if our chemistry like our sexual chemistry is that good already, but didn't feel any different. Yeah, that's interesting. But we laid in bed until like 245 or three in the morning just talking and like just in like this surreal dream world what the hell just happened we eventually fall asleep

and we both wake up at seven o'clock in the morning we're like the exact same just surreal dream state of like did that just really happen and like we're both just on the top of the world like the connection it gave us together was something that I didn't understand I didn't expect right like it made us like we're pretty connected we've been You know, we stuck it out for 26 years. Exactly. Yeah. We'd never had anything like that.

Yeah. And so it was absolutely incredible. And yeah, I mean, we did. We fucked, you know, like six or seven times that weekend, which was, they're all awesome. But, yeah, it didn't really feel any different. Well, do you normally fuck six or seven times on the weekend? No, we're normally like. It was different.

It just wasn't. Maybe the actual sex wasn't, like, more better than usual. but you were hornier than usual. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, obviously six to seven times for a couple that's together all that time. I feel like that's, you know, it's pretty me.

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So, yeah, after that night, you know, we were both on board to plan something else, but we made the rule from now on, like, we only want verified people. people that have to have validations. It'll just eliminate the flakes. Yeah, that's smart. And make sure that they're truly respectful to our marriage and to both of us. And we've been talking about a Vegas trip. And we hadn't booked anything, but just out of the blue, some guy from Vegas hit us up. It's like, hey, you're going to come into Vegas?

Out of nowhere? That's kind of interesting. Yeah, just out of nowhere. Okay. And we're like, actually, we were thinking about it. And she liked him. He thought he was hot. I mean, he's a dude that never skips a day in the gym.

Obviously, he eats really clean and super built. And so we planned a Vegas trip and we're like, okay, well, he was a dealer. So he worked nights. And so we couldn't have a night meetup. So we're like, okay, well, let's just do a day meetup. We'll meet for drinks over, you know, after lunch. And so that we went to Vegas the night before. The wife and I just had some fun that night and gambled and whatnot.

And then the next morning, before we're going to meet him, I think we're going to meet him at like 2.30. That morning went by so freaking slow. It was for both of us. Like we just kept checking our clock and we're like, really? It's only been 10 minutes. Like, can we just get this meeting going already? Because I think we were both a little nervous, not as nervous as the previous times. But obviously, being in Vegas drinking a little bit, you know, definitely helps the nerves.

But yeah, so we met this guy. and super cool dude he's got an accent from i don't some from the dominican but super cool dude super respectful he's been in the life stuff forever also had like 20 validations or whatever and we all well-vived everything was good and so we invited him up to our room and pretty much the same scenario where like i gave her a big kiss turned her to him and like everything was just it was so much fun. And then he, same thing, he went down on her for like probably two minutes and she was like, I want to fuck him. And so this time he, instead of like the first guy, this guy is like, well, let me, give me a blow job. And so she does. And so I start fucking her from behind first. And

he was hung. It was a little intimidating. He had a really big dick. I'm not going to lie. When she fucked him, I never have seen her act anything like that. It was absolutely incredible. Like, oh, my God, he gave it to her hard, which is how she likes it. And it was absolutely incredible. Like, oh, my God. So I loved it. She obviously loved it.

They finished up, and he left. And nerves, emotions just hit me in a wave. Like, I don't know what it was, but, like, I wanted to fuck her again after that, and I could smell his cologne on her. I'm like, no, can you go shower? Interesting.

Yeah, it was just like... You wanted his scent. That's very, that's very animal. Like, that's the animal in you. Yeah, and I think just that he was so big. I'm not small by any means, but just that he was so big, it was just like...

my god does she want that instead and like i don't know what it was yeah yeah and she uh she showered came back and i fucked her and like everything was good then like once that smells off her everything back to amazing and that the videos from that both experiences i've watched the videos like a million times well listen for the guy that's been videotaping and you know the fact that you've been able to not only videotape this stuff, but also see her in person. Like you said the first time you kind of like move back and watch for a little bit. I mean, like, this is like now your wife is like your own personal porn. You know, it's like the perfect thing for you, a guy who's very visual and into this to begin with.

Exactly. And so the second guy, he, like when we met him for drinks, he said his favorite experience was just one on one, not like an MFM or, you know, not a for some or whatever. Yeah. And I could tell he would have rather may not be there because I can watch. My wife's so hot that I can't watch for very long. I'm like, oh, I got to get some. So I don't think he loved that.

But for me, it's like I have to be involved. I can't just sit and watch. So he only gets a couple minutes of time before I have to jump in. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So, yeah, so those are the only two play experiences we've had. Listen, I mean, you thought you didn't have enough to fill up an episode. Those two stories were so killer.

And I love all the feelings and all the stuff. You know, you also, though, you do, do you just say you've also been to swinger clubs more than once, right? Yeah, so we went on that Vegas trip, we went to a swing a club out there. I don't want to name the name, but it was really weird. Really? Was it Red Rooster? Why don't you want to name the name? I don't want to.

Because you're going to say something bad. We had a lot of fun. Okay. The owners are super, super nice. It's just weird. It had like zero erotic energy. How interesting. Yeah.

Like, there was a lot of people playing there. It wasn't something that was a turn on to watch. Okay. So we hung out in like the bar area all night. We talked to a bunch of different people. We had, we ended up having a blast. But it was not like a. A place you'd go back.

Sexual charge moment by any By any means. Yeah, it was a fun fun night though. But yeah, we've been to, there's a club, like I said, like five minutes from our house. We first went to it

like four years ago when we first created a profile. Nothing really happened. I think we made out in like the public area and I fingered her a little bit. It was just kind of awkward. And we recently, since we started doing this, we've gone back, I don't know,

about like seven, eight times. And every time it's just a totally different vibe, getting a little more comfortable, a little more play sessions. She hasn't played with anybody there. She's made out with a few different girls, but we've just played with

ourselves and fucked in on the couch in front of people, you know, quite a few times fucked in the sex swing, which that was fun. Oh yeah, was it hard? It was the wrong height, so it was awkward. Yeah, but if I could adjust the height, I would definitely do it again. That thing's a lot of fun. Why haven't you hooked up with anyone at the

Swinger Club? Is it because you just haven't met anyone or seen anyone that got your wife going or whatever? Well, yeah, so that's one reason. Because when we go, it kind of feels like we're in our own bubble. Yeah, I got it. There's really been only one couple we've met that are really nice. Super cool couple, but it's not a couple we'd be interested in playing with. But it's also kind of clicky. People seem to stick to their own, which is fine for us because we're not there really to play with people. And I think the second reason being we want safety, you know, both the guys we played with wore condoms and we're both recently tested. And in a club, I mean, condoms are one thing, but there's no way to know if somebody's been tested recently or not. Yeah, it's a totally

different kind of experience. Let me ask you a question because, you know, your wife has fucked these guys. You are a hot wife and couple. Like, do you ever plan? on doing anything else with like women or like her with women, you with women, or is this like the thing that you guys are into? So this is the thing that we're into, but I have told her I think it would be hot as fuck to see her with a couple. Uh-huh. And she doesn't seem closed off to the idea completely.

Interesting. And what would that entail? Just her having a threesome with a couple where I could. Oh, her with a threesome. Not like not a couple swam. or anything like that. No, no, no, not at all. If I wanted to join in, you know, I would play with my wife, you know.

But you don't have any desire to be with another woman. Isn't that interesting? Typically, guys with your kink that are into this, don't give a shit about fucking other women. They want to see their women fuck other guys. Yeah, and I don't think my wife fully still believes that, but I've been telling her that for almost a decade now. Oh, well, you could get, you know what, after you gave her that massage thing, you could

give her a hundred, if not more, probably 600 episodes of every guy that is like you that could care less. I mean, it's a real thing. It's like that's what, that's a difference in the reason why some people are hot wives and some people are swingers. Guys that, you know, do want to do do that. They, they're, you know, pushing their wives for nine years to become swingers, not to fuck another guy like you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting absolutely everything and more than I ever imagine. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people don't understand that because a lot of times some women that are with the guys and hot wiping for them, they don't want to see their guy with a woman either. And people will be like, that's not fair. I'm like, it doesn't, it's not not fair. It is what it is.

And honestly, 100% of the time, the guys that are into hotwifing, they don't give a shit about fucking other girls. They're getting their variety needs met by their girl fucking other guy. So everyone's happy. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not about being fair. It's about, you know, I'm being compatible. I'm getting a fantasy that, you know, I've wanted for so long. I've been made a reality that, you know, it's better than 99.9% of people's sex lives out there. Yeah. We're living it. And it's like, I don't want anymore.

I never thought, I never imagined this would happen. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Especially because you played the long game. Especially because, you know, it's interesting that you powered through your feelings because it wasn't like, you know, it was very iffy at first, you know, it was like interesting those feelings that you have.

And I love these kinds of stories for that kind of information because a lot of times. because a lot of times when I put on an episode where a guy cops to being jealous or feeling not right about things and stuff, you know, it, it's, I get so many emails from other people that are like, oh, that was, I was in that same position. You know what I mean? And I just think it's it's real life and it makes people realize like, oh, maybe you might have those feelings too. But like, look, in your situation, it didn't deter you from trying and you did cross the line. And like, you, you know, you're, you're happy that you did. You're glad that those negative feelings, they weren't there to. tell you not to do it because you did it and you're happy. Yep. Yep. Couldn't have been more happy. So, yeah, it's been so far, it's been a great ride. And we have a couple of things on the horizon.

We're still, I think next we're going to meet a new guy for a drink here, hopefully before too long. Okay. But yeah, then in January, we have a trip booked to Desire. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I just, you know, I imagine it's like a club-like setting where, you know, if we play, great. If we don't, we're probably still going to have a blast.

Yeah, and I hear that some people, you know, everyone tells me different stories about swinger clubs. Most people say it's a great vibe and people are really cool. But every now and then I do hear like people going to a club and it's like clicking. I might just be that club by you. But I typically hear when people go to like, you know, resorts, like it's the best vibe ever there. Like I've never heard like, oh, it's a bad vibe at desires. You know what I mean? Like I feel like you're going to be very happy.

Yeah, we have critics because everybody, unless they travel together, everybody, you know. Exactly. Nobody knows each other. It's like equal playing field. Yeah. Yeah, listen, you were like the best. Okay, keep going. No, keep talking about yourself.

Then I'm going to get your wife on because you have two minutes. It's like perfect timing. You've been like great. Okay, real quick. So the guy from Vegas is a sports fan of a league that I'm also a sports fan. And our teams are rivals. And he went to the game and asked if we were going to make a bet. And so my wife's like, well, what would you want to wager?

And it's like, well, if my team wins, we get tested and I get to fuck you raw. Oh, interesting. She's like, well, she asked me, she's like, well, what do you think? And I'm like, okay, well, if he's going to go big, then if our team wins, then he has to book us a hotel. You know, I figured he got a discount. He was a dealer at one of them. Yeah. But long story short, his team won.

So our next trip to Vegas, we're going to get tested. He'll get a goal. Bearback. Yeah, bear back with her. Which I speak sounds hot as fuck. Yeah. Let me ask you my last question. I like to ask.

Like how do you do like how are things like, I mean, how do you feel like it's changed your relationship other than the sex, right? You're super horny and all that stuff. Like a lot of times. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't, I don't think ever in my life in our 26 years, I've like felt needy. Yeah.

I'm needy for her and she feels similar to me. Ooh. I love the way you put that. I love the way you put that. So many women. You know what? I mean, like women need to hear. hear this because I'm thinking from like a woman's brain if a woman heard like oh you know that would

make my husband needy of me like she'd be running to fuck other guys you know what I mean because I feel like women love that you know would want that to happen with their guy and it's not needy in a negative way right no not in a sexual sense yeah interesting yeah it made me want her probably more than ever but needy in a sense of you know just outside just outside of the sexual dynamic it's like need her Interesting. Isn't that? Yeah, because I've never been like that in my life. Yeah, wow, that is amazing.

And I do feel like there is something about, you know, sort of not only talking about all this stuff, but like really putting your raw emotions on the table in front of your partner, you know, that does bring you closer, you know? I mean, you had all these insecurities and all these vulnerabilities of fucking panic attack first time in your life, you know? And she was the one on the receiving end listening to you and you're caught, you know, so that's going to, you know, so that's going to. make you closer because she was there for you through that kind of experience. You know what I mean? And I'm not an emotional guy. Of course. No guys are emotional guys. No, this is probably the first time in my life I've really experienced any of these emotions. Exactly. Yeah. And the fact that you were able to, you know, tell her about them and she received them and you guys worked through it. I think that that kind of stuff does make people feel closer. And there's probably like, you know, you feel more trust. It's like a lot of things happen when you do little simple things like. that make a very big difference. And this is why I always say like, you know, yeah, I'm talking about sex on my show, but a lot of times, like, it goes deeper than that for people that open up the relationships. When it does work out, you know, it does bring people closer and it's not just because

of the sex. It's because of all these other things, you know, which is like amazing. So now let's talk to your girl. You were the best of telling a story, by the way. Oh, good to hear, good to hear. And just one, before I go, last thank you. Without your podcast, I don't think we would have gone down this route because you helped a lot. Yeah, well, I love that. And thank you. you're going to help somebody else. It's like pay it forward time. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly.

That's what I love about newbie stories. And I told you that before because you're like, I don't know if I'm going to have enough to talk about. Like everything that you talked about was so great and so important and so helpful for other people. So, you know, thank you for coming on and helping. And we don't have anybody else in the world we can talk to this about.

Exactly. You can have fun listening to it back. Yep. So hold up. Here she is. Okay, cool. Marie. Oh my God. Your husband was so great at telling your guy's story. Yeah, he did a good job. Yeah. Oh my God. You have the cutest little voice. I can't make you any higher. You'll sound like a chipmunk. I'm going to have to make you a little deeper. You're still going to sound hot. So listen, I just wrote down a couple of questions. I mean, I just feel like your husband really explained the whole thing from his standpoint. Like I'm just wondering for you like, you know, really in the beginning where I asked him this question, but like I wanted to ask you like when he was at talking to you about. about all like, you know, give me details about these other guys and blah, blah, blah.

Were you like, what the fuck are you asking me for? Like, were you hesitant to tell them the details, you know? How were you feeling about all that kind of questioning? Well, at first I was like, well, why? Why would you want to know that? I wouldn't want to know. Yeah. And then he would just ask specific questions.

And so I'd answer them because I don't want to lie. Yeah. And then he ended up getting turned on. So I'm like, okay, I might as well just tell him. Because you knew he was getting turned on by it. Like, and then you realized, okay, he wants me. because I think it would be scary for a woman to be like, wait, am I supposed to talk this thing up and make you jealous?

Or like, you know, it's kind of confusing because it's not the norm, right? Let me ask you this. We're like when you started, because he said you guys started to fantasize about it. And you guys did fantasize about it for a very long time. Like, were you like horny for the situation too? Or were you just like going with it for your husband? Like what was going on in your mind during all those years before you cross the line, but when you were fantasizing about it?

when he first started I was like yeah this is never going to happen but I'll just go along with it right and because he liked it and so yeah yeah we can just talk about it and pretend um yeah so and then even when it got closer I thought this is never really going to happen like in my own mind and you weren't horny for it at all yet no okay you're doing it for your guy yeah I mean I liked how turned on he got that made me horny but yeah that's true of course that's always going to be a part of it right like and that's why you're moving forward, not totally for him. Like, his turn on was a part of your turn on. You're like, oh, this is like, right.

Okay. Okay. When did it cross the line, though, that you started to get turned on by it? Probably on when we were on the sites and then some of the attention I would get. Uh-huh. Like, okay, well, maybe. And then after going on the dates, I was like, okay, this isn't horrible. Yeah.

And then that's probably about. But even before the very first dates, I was praying these guys would cancel. So we wouldn't have to go through with it. So was your husband. by the way. Yeah. Well, he wanted to go on the dates. He didn't want to go on the, he didn't want me to do anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's just so funny that you're both a little bit hoping that things don't work out, but you kept like moving forward, you know? And good thing you did, because on the other side, you guys both sounds like you both really had a great time. But like when he did say, like, let's do this in real life, like, you just felt like, oh, this is never going to happen. Let me ask you this.

When he really told you like, oh, like, let's do it in real life. Were you like just at that point where you're still like, okay, I'll do it. But like you never thought it was really going to happen. Yeah, I thought, I thought we'll go on that date to meet somebody because we always said we wouldn't plan the first date anyway. Uh-huh. And then I thought after that I can just be like, no. Right. I don't think so.

Right. But then I actually wanted to after that first date. Because of the attention, because you were kind of like corny for it. Like how come? And the guy just made me feel super comfortable. Yeah. Um, but then it was hard to see him. to see my husband super uncomfortable, so then I kind of felt guilty.

Yeah, that's interesting. But then, yeah, I'm glad we both did it. Yeah, I mean, you pushed through all that stuff, but he was very honest and you knew he was going through those weird feelings about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And a lot of me, a big part of me did think from the very beginning, even from eight years ago, he just wanted to sleep with another woman. So he was thinking, if I do this for her, she could do that. me. That's what every woman thinks. It's a trap. Yeah, well, he's proven so far it hasn't been a trap.

No, but I, I have had, I have 1,282, 92 episodes at this point, and I have a thousand guys on who will also prove to you that it 100% is not a trap. It's never, every, I am here to tell you. I talk to so many guys and I'm talking to them, by the way, on the DL, they have no reason to lie to me. Half the time their wives aren't with. them right so they're going to cop to the fact that they want to fuck another girl if they want to you know but like i will tell you 100% of the time or maybe 99% of the time the guys that are into hot wiping have zero desire for another girl this is their kink like a you know a guy that wants variety with women and wants to fuck a lot of different women like that's their kink you know what I mean guys that are into hot wiping like your guy the guys that get turned into that turned on by that you know they don't have that desire you're going to you're going to giving him all the variety he needs and more.

You know, so trust him when he tells you. There's no time coming up anytime soon where even if you stopped hot living, he wouldn't say, oh, I want to go fuck a girl. Like he'd just be like, well, he'd just continue to keep watching your videos that he keeps taken. Do you know what I mean? How about for you? Because like, listen, this is the guy, you, you know, the first guy you've been with since

your husband, like the first time you fucked another guy since your husband. Like, how was that first experience with the guy? It was exciting. It was fun, but he was a little bit skinnier than my husband. And I didn't like it as much, but it was still really hot. Right. Was it nice to be with a new guy? Because you hadn't been with someone since you're 20.

I think the most exciting part was having both of them at the same time. Interesting. Yeah. Did you ever think you'd have two guys at one time? No, I thought it was a joke. but you like it. I've never even heard of it. Do you know about spit roasting and all those words I've learned on my show? Yeah, when he first, when my husband first used that word, I was like, what is that?

I had no idea what it was. I know, I just had my book come out. And in the beginning, I put like a whole glossary of terms, you know, that you need to know, like spit roasting, TP, DVP. Because like, listen, I know what all those words mean now because I've been doing my show for so long. but I know that the regular person, because I was a regular person when I started my show, I didn't know any of the shit meant. I got educated while I was talking to people, but, you know, on my show, people know it's spit roasting.

But in the real world, like, you know, the majority of people don't have a clue. And you had no clue, but here you were spit roasting. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard the word before in my life. Yeah. So are you looking forward to like going to desire? Like, I know that like what's on your table.

Like, I mean, are you? totally into what you guys are doing. Like, I don't know. How do you feel about everything that you've done so far? Yeah, now I'm excited about it. I'm excited about, like, desire. I'm excited to do everything again. The worst part for me is always the first, like, meeting somebody for the first time.

Of course, yeah. And I just don't know what to expect. Yeah. But it's getting a little easier. Right. And the guys have made you feel comfortable. Did you like the guy with the really big dick? Yeah, he was really nice.

but was the sex with him really good because that's like the biggest dick you've ever had right yeah well no there's there's another one that my husband always liked to tell me the story about i was just going to say your husband's going to be prying you for those stories oh okay yeah it's an interesting thing i got to say it's very common that guys that are like your husband that they do they don't they don't like they like the the guy with the bigger dick and they say it's because, like, they do, because what they're really into is seeing, like, their wife being pleasureed. And, you know, he said, you know, when he was explaining when you were with that guy, like, he'd never seen you get that horny, that, you know, during it. And that's what's

a turn on to him. So that's what, that's why guys dig the guys with the bigger dick. It's not because they like the dick themselves. It's because they like to see their wife really turned on. And the noises and the, yeah. Why don't you watch your videos? You don't like to? No, it makes me, I feel weird. I feel weird looking at myself. Right, right, right. I got it. I get it.

But you're not very visual. But listen, you know, you are fulfilling all your husband's fantasies. And now I would say, would you say that these are like your fantasies too and you're like there with them into it as much as he is? Yeah, I had no, I never believe that I would like it. But I actually do. Yeah, right. I love your rap because of it.

Yeah. And how do you feel like it's changed your relationship? Oh, my gosh. We're so much closer. Like even if we can't do a fight, we make up so much faster. We want to spend all of our time together. It's just our relationship's way better. Did you hear what he said?

He said when he said, you know, it makes me more needy of her. Yeah. Like, how great is that? It's kind of nice because I've always felt like the needy one. So it's kind of nice where it's like, oh, you need me too. Isn't that nice? That's what I said to him. I was like, oh, my God, if girls, see, other women here that they're like,

oh, my God, that's what I got to do to get my guy to, like, be needy of me. You know what I mean? Because I feel like any woman would love that because we always, typically, like you say, it's like the girl feels like the needy one, right? Because the guy is so stoic and whatever. So I thought that that was like super interesting that he said that. And I feel like maybe a lot of other guys feel the same way. They just didn't put it, they don't put it into words when I'm talking to them. But I love that your husband put so many different things that he experienced into words. And I would assume that him being so vulnerable with you and telling you all these things would, of course, make you feel closer to him. Yeah. Right? And I mean, it's, it's. he looks at me different. He can't, like, get enough of me. Like, when we go to restaurants now, people will comment on how close we look together. Like, you guys don't even have two inches between you and you just look so in love. And I'm like, oh, you can tell. It's weird that other people can see it.

Yeah, because nobody else knows, right? Is this a very secret life that you're living? Yeah, nobody knows. Right. Yeah. Like, you can't tell any of your girlfriends, right, that you're fucking other guys for your husband. No. How crazy would they think you are?

some of them might not talk to me anymore. Exactly. That's why I mean, that's why you're going to be anonymous on my show. That's why I'm still anonymous. I don't think my son would, people would let their sons play with my son. You know what I mean? It's like unfortunate that this is the way that it is. But I'm so glad that, you know, you were, I mean, I think it's really cool of you that you were like open to, you know, trying these things with your husband. And even before you were open to trying it. I mean, you were open to listening to a podcast, right? And just hearing him out and just. And, sort of going there with his fantasies and you didn't really shut him down. And I think that that's like so great because like you said, you started out maybe doing it just for him just because you saw him being turned on. But it wound up like being something that you're really into now too. And if you had never been open to all of that stuff, you would have never, you know, sort of realized this about yourself. So it's sort of like, you know, you had a big awakening too. Yeah. And his patience with me, his patience that will be.

the years has been nice. Made me not feel as like rushed into it. Yeah, you got to play the long game. I feel like that's very typical in most of my newbie stories, you know, that that's a big part of it. Because a woman's not going to, like you said, you had like reservations. You felt like maybe it's a trap. And there's nothing worse than, you know, a guy pushing you into something like that. It would have made it worse, don't you think? Yeah. Yeah. And we both said, like, after every single thing we've ever done, like, if one of us wants, It's full stop. It's no questions asked. We don't have to do it or do anything else.

Right. And neither has helped that yet. Yeah. Oh, no. You're just started. I can't wait to talk to you. We'll get a part two next year. But, you know, I already got your hot picks.

Your husband sent them to me. You guys will get free access to my Discord. It's really fun over there. I'm doing for December. I'm doing a whole best boob contest. I've done the best dick pick contest. Like, you don't understand what goes down. I think your husband's going to like it over on Discord.

But are you ready to send me some picks? I'll post some. there you'll get free access to my Patreon for a whole month while this episode goes up. It'll be up soon. I will email you guys. Thank you so much for calling in. Thanks for coming on at the end to talk. Your husband was like fucking killer at telling a story, by the way.

Yeah, he did a good job. Yeah, right? But I'm glad you chimed in at the end. Like, I thought that was like a, you know, that's like super fun. And that, you know, I think it's like a perfect episode. So thanks so much for hopping on on the end and tell your husband, Matt, thanks so much for giving me a great episode again. Okay. Thank you so much.

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