Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1306 - Ava Started Hooking up with Couples and Having MMF Threesomes after her Divorce

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Ava started hooking up with couples, having mmf threesomes and more after her divorce and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including the first guy after her divorce that she started dating and the kinky this they did that opened her up to trying more,  the app she went on to start having NSA hook-ups, the first couple she met up with and exactly what went down, the first time she went down on a woman how she felt about it, the second couple she met up with and what went down, her cuckcake experience she had with a couple and what went down, her first threesome with two guys and what went down, her dp and dvp experience and which one became her fave, the guy she met up with who was a Daddy dom and what would go down with him, the younger guy she met and their visit a swingers club and exactly what went down, the kink workshop they went to and what went down, how they wound up in an open situationship,  what triggers he jealous in their situationship plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics AVA plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Holiday Sale PLUS $50 off! ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://loadboost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on Ava. You're going to be obsessed with Ava's voice. She's calling from Australia and she's got like the hottest voice. She lives a very interesting life. This is a woman who got divorced after many years of marriage and kids and decided to get into the lifestyle. She went on to some app. She gives the names of some apps and swinger clubs in Australia that I never heard of.

So I think it's kind of interesting if you're listening in Australia. hear the app she went on. Once she got on there, she started to have threesomes with couples first, and she talks about all her threesomes with couples. That's what she started out. And then she started having threesomes with two guys, and that was really what she loved, and she did DP, and she loved DP, for sure. And then she met a guy who was into BDSM.

He was like a pleasure dog, and she got into that kind of thing. And she's currently still dating him, if you ask me, it's her primary partner. That's what she says, and she talks about their relationship and what they've done together. and it's a super interesting story. This is a woman who's had a long journey, but she's living her best life and having a lot of fun. Okay, I have hot picks of her over on my Patreon. Hopefully she'll be on my Discord.

But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Ava. Hi, Ava. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi, Kathy. Thank you. Yeah, feeling good. Thank you.

I don't know if in my 11 years of podcasting and 1,276 guests or whatever, that I've ever had on an Ava. I'm like, it's very rare that someone comes up with a name that I haven't had and you're like, oh, that's what I use on the apps and everything. So I'm going to give your short story, Eva, and then you're going to get to it. I love your effing accent. You are calling me from very far away. And you happen to be like a solo woman. Like after your divorce, you got into the lifestyle alone, right?

Like you went in single, you're doing it after you got divorced. And we're going to hear all about it because like what makes a woman midlife like completely. changed the game. Let's go back before you got divorced and just tell me about your marriage and what happened, what was going on beforehand. Yeah, sure. So I actually was traveling

when I was in my mid-20s. So yeah, I'm from Australia. When I was in my mid-20s, I went to live in London. So I lived in London for a couple of years and I was working as an executive assistant in an investment banking team and then that's

where I ended up meeting my now ex-husband. So we were married for just under 10 years. Now let me ask you this. How was your sex life with him when you guys were together? Was it just like vanilla and you never had any fantasies of the lifestyle or anything? Did you guys ever discuss things or try things? Yeah, I think I've always had inside me to try things, but I think there's maybe been shame. I think he maybe had shame as well. And so it was really vanilla. And there was no space. And there was no space. to actually share our fantasies with each other. Like, yeah, there was, I don't know, there was no,

there was not openness in the relationship. And then it ended up that he was actually quite abusive. So it wasn't a good, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so you get divorced, right? And then, like, what, what makes you, like, what do you do after your divorce, you know? Oh, I was still in, like, survival mode.

I think I was studied, I went back to uni and I was studying. So I had two kids. The kids were little. I was studying full time at university. Yeah, I was in survival mode. So I was probably another five years. I kind of saw some people like casually,

but absolutely all just vanilla and then still just toxic guys now. And this year, so it's taken this long. I was with somebody for 18 months. So probably, so this end. I ended September, 2024. I ended this relationship. We were together for 18 months. And it got to a point where he asked me to move into him and I, in with him.

And I was like, no, no, no, this isn't my future. But we had started where I, it had been a few things. It's like, oh, can you slap my ass? There's things like that. I don't know where that came from. Maybe just maybe from watching a little bit of porn because I was watching like some sort of like porn made by women for women. So it was like the ethical porn.

But I think that's kind of where it came from. So I'd say that, I'd say, you know, slap my ass or like, you know, pull my hair when he was fucking me doggy or whatever. And then it went to like, you know, choke me, like put your hands around my throat, like harder, let you feel that. So that was where I started sort of experimenting with him. And he liked that. He'd come from like a 20-year marriage. So that was, yeah, that was, that was not good. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, everyone has baggage, unfortunately, right, at that age? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. And I suppose, oh, yeah. After you guys broke up, right? No, well, when we were together, then it got to a point where he started talking about threesomes, and I'd only ever like, I don't know, I'd only ever imagined it. And part one of my fantasies was a threesome with two.

guys. And anyway, so he talked about a threesome and I was like, oh yeah, like, I'd talk about that. And then I said to him, and so what about, what about me? Like, this is my fantasy. Well, he just could not handle that. He was like, what? I'm not going to be in the, I'm not going to be in the same room with another guy with a hard cock. Oh, you know, like, he just did that full 360. And I was like, okay, well, then I suppose it's off the table. Um, um, so. So that kind of then sat in this really weird space. And he had, oh, that's right. And he kind of had this little kink.

So I'm not into anything like water sports. Yeah. You know, like, and anyway, so there was one time we're in the shower and he was like, oh, can I wee on you or whatever? It was like, can I ween? And he was like, okay, like maybe my leg. That's as far as I went. because then I knew it was about that whole porn thing.

So I went and was like, what's this, what's this about? So I went and watched his porn. I was like, yeah, I'm not getting on my knees. No thanks. Yeah. So, but I didn't shame him. That was like his kink. That was his thing, whatever.

And so it was just like in that space. But anyway, so we ended up breaking up. And then I went on the dating apps, probably about November. And they were just a nightmare. It was just, I don't know. just like guys would be, yeah, I didn't know what I was looking for. I knew I didn't want a relationship, but I wanted to go out there and just have some fun and just experiment and just with these new little kinks kind of, I didn't even call it that then. Then you, those new little

things, I would, I thought, I'll just, you know, go on experiment. Anyway, I met this really cool guy. we had the best first date. So we went bar hopping and then went all through the city at all the different bars. And then at the end of the night at midnight, we're in the middle of this big park in the city. And the next thing is like, like there's hotels, everything everywhere, but this big open, sort of like a, I don't know, central part maybe. I don't know. But in the middle and there I was like laying down, he's going down on me.

in the middle of this park, like at midnight. So out in public. Out in public. And I was like, holy shit. Anyways, he told, then he was the one that told me about this app. Can I say, like, the name of the app. It's called, yeah, it's called Red Hot Pie in Australia. And I don't know where, if it's anywhere else.

But it's like this, what I thought, was like this secret underworld of like the swinging scene. Yeah. Anyway, he told me about this kind of pretty dodgy date. He went on this date. He said, not date. He said, this woman told him, you know, message me in half an hour and I'll tell you the address. This is how he introduced me to this up.

And then he said he turned up at her house, opened the door and she just got down on her knees, blew him, and then he left. I was like, oh, okay. That was no conversation. So he told me about this app, but he said, but don't you don't you go on it you're too classy for that and I was like excuse me oh no did that make you want to go on it more totally totally yeah and so now like my it's funny because it's like an ode to him because my profile name has the word classy in it

yeah yeah yeah yeah so I went on there and yeah so that's been 2025 and I've I don't know. What has what has blown my mind the most? First of all, I've reclaimed the word slut. So it's like my inner slap. That's my, you know, I'll be your naughty little slut. I'm so submissive. I did not realize like how submissive I am. But yeah, I've met some really great guys. But let me ask you this. When you go on this app and because it's like, you know, different than a regular app. Like what do you wind up starting to look for? Yeah, so that's a great question because I went to Thailand for a friend's wedding in May. So I talk about my time on this app before Thailand and after Thailand. Yeah. Hey everyone, you know what I got to say about New Year's resolutions? Fuck them. Okay. So many people set themselves up with unrealistic goals. I'm going to be skinnier. I'm going to start going to the gym. But those things rarely happen. So why not make 2026 all about good sex? And you know how you're going to make this year all about good sex? By taking the quiz at Beeducated. Beeducated has a quiz that is going to help you get your

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personalized roadmap to your sexual happiness for 2006. All you got to do is click on the link in the description to take the quiz. That's right. It's that easy. All you got to do is go to the description and click on the link to take the quiz. Yeah, so that's a great question because I went to Thailand for a friend's wedding in May. So I talk about my time on this app before Thailand and after Thailand. Yeah. So I was looking for, I didn't know, I was looking for, I think I've got a really good intuition. So I, like I'd start off messaging.

I'd get a sense of what they were like through messaging if it's just like I just want to, okay, so this is crude, but there's the guys, which I soon realized, that just want to hold to fuck, you know, they just want a hold to fuck, but I was also looking for, now I know, I still wanted connection. I still wanted some connection and, like, along with the respect, and then the safe place to explore fantasies and kinks and stuff, you know? Yeah. But what were the fantasies and kinks that you were looking to explore?

So threesome was my first one. Two guys? Yeah, yeah, two guys. Well, I think so. I think what I thought I'll explore a threesome first with a couple, with a married couple, because there's loads of couples on there. But what blew my mind was, and I love hearing you talk about it with all your other guests, is the whole hot whiffing scene.

Like, it blows my mind. I've come from monogamous relationships where the guys were all so jealous and possessive of me. Yeah. And what I love about this space is it's taught me this whole non-possessive space, which I love. But I just think it's the hottest that these men get off watching their women being fucked by other guys. It's that whole, yeah, it's that whole experience. It's just bless my mind. It's so great.

And it turns you want. It turns me on. But it also turns me on because I feel like the guys, I know that what I love about this space as well, a lot of the guys who maybe want to explore a bit of by curiosity, they can do that, which I think is, I mean,

I just think is a really great safe space for that because obviously, you know, the whole, you know, it's stigma. Like, that bothers me. And with my ex, actually, that's what I explored. I gave him a prostate, prostate orgasm once. And like that blew my mind because it turned him on so much.

It was almost like this primal sound and I was like, wow. And then I just explored more about anal and all that kind of stuff. So I looked into that on how to give pleasure to men, but then also receiving it as well. And I'd squirted for the first time too. That was a little bit. The last guy before you broke up and got into the last guy. Okay. Yeah. So you're prime and ready for it. So like you're on this app. You're looking for a threesome with two guys, correct? Or no, with a couple, right? Is that what you put out there? Yeah. I think it was about, well, I met a few guys initially. Like the first. And also the other thing is like, my God, like the mid 30 year old guys are just so into older women.

women. And that's been amazing too. Like some of these guys are just the most emotionally mature, just fun, open, obviously have so much stamina. And so yeah, I've just, yeah. So you started banging younger guys at first, just for fun, like your sport fucking, having fun, booty calls, like that kind of a thing. Yes. Okay. And how are those experiences with the young guys? majority of them were amazing. There was one guy, look, there was a couple of times. I like to go and have a

drink first, catch the vibe. And if it's okay, then maybe actually hook up on that same night. But normally, but now I like to go for like the drink first, check the chemistry and the vibe. And for me, kissing's a big thing. If you're a bad kisser, then I can't, like it's, it's no. You're not turned on. Not at all. Yeah, I got it. But I did have a booty call once for seven years, and I never kissed him once because I hated his mouth.

It was disgusting to me. And I fucked him all the time. And he was a great lay. Really? Yeah, it's interesting, right? But I wouldn't kiss him. Oh, I hated his whole face. I'm like a guy.

I feel like guys can roll like that. You know what I mean? Like, make a fuck a body. Oh, my God. Guys can do that. Guys came to that because there would be guys that would be messages. me going, you know, like I want to meet up. I'm like, you don't even know what I look like at this point. Wait, but let's get it. When do you start, though, hook it up with like couples and

doing all those other crazy stuff? Because like right now you're still not living out your fantasies and you're deciding to do it first with a couple. Do you wind up doing a threesome first with a couple? I do. And they were the loveliest couple. Oh my God. What are you going to do though going in? Are you going to be with the chick too or just the guy? Yes. So that, so her and I, we, so we, so we had like a three-way WhatsApp group. And it ended up being, it was actually on Valentine's Day this year. He was, because in Perth, a lot of people work FIFO, which is the fly-in, fly-out. So there's a lot of mining here.

So anyway, so I met up with this couple and she was the same. She wanted to explore, but didn't really know. I loved the sensuality of kissing a woman. And I hadn't before, but I was willing to explore that side. And so I met up with them. We had drinks first and we were all going to check the vibe. Anyway, I ended up going back to their house. And it was hot.

Like, they made me some cocktail, some more cocktails. We went back to theirs. And then how it started, he stood up. He grabbed my hand. He grabbed her hand. And he put us together kind of to kiss. And so we started kissing. And then he joined in.

So it was like, I love that too. I love a three-way kiss. I think that's like really sensual. And yeah, so we ended up. kind of starting there and kissing and undressing in their sort of lounge room and then went into the bedroom and yeah, it was great. She, like, I ended up going down on her and she did on me. And yeah, it was like, it was a great experience. Yeah, it was a really, it was a great experience. And I don't, she came really easily. Like, I was thinking, I don't know what to do. I don't know

what to do. I know what to do when I'm sucking a cock, which I absolutely love. But yeah, so I probably, I think I've, all in all, maybe I've been down on a woman maybe only three times. And I've realized that's not really for me. So I don't put that out there now. I'll say I'm bicarious, but as long as, like, so no one has any expectation that I'll go down on them because that's not actually, I love the, I love a great masculine body. I love to, I love to blow a guy. Like, I just love it. Yeah.

I just enjoy it. You're born to dudes. I am. Yeah. But I love, yeah. Anyway, yeah, but I love the sensuality with a woman. So then I was with another couple, and this is when they started to expand my horizon. So he, for her birthday, he was looking for women.

She was fully bisexual and he wanted to get a few women for her. And she also got turned on when she watched him fuck other women. Anyway, so we all met, like I actually ended up meeting up with them at a bar and we all went. Anyway, I met up with them for a bar and then the next night was her birthday night. And she was flying fly out as well. Anyway, we went to one of the like beautiful hotels that was here. We all met there. And then we all ended up going to one of the swingers clubs that was here.

And I was so nervous. But I also met this other single girl. So this was back in March this year. And I'm still friends with the other single girl that was there that night. So her and I talk and it's good to have someone sort of in the scene that you can talk to. But we all ended up going to one of the swingers clubs. And I just remember I was just so nervous. And it's what, you know, you go there.

It's a social space and then by 10pm you're meant to dress down to your lingerie. Women dressed down to the laundering guys down to their shorts, boxes or something and, you know, shirts off. And so we went to the club. There was, we didn't really, no one hooked up with, oh no, actually some of them did. But we ended up then going back to their hotel. And I don't know, one girl was pretty drunk and she ended up leaving. And the other girl, so there was the four of us in the bed. The other girl, she was kind of more into the husband.

Anyway, she ended up leaving and then it was just me. I was like, the pressure was on me, but we're all living. We're having a good time. And anyway, so she, the wife sat on the ottoman while the husband fucked me and she watched and then she came and joined us. The really strange thing is, though, the husband was so, lovely, but he looked exhausted, as in he was trying to plan and fulfill all her fantasies. They just...

Doesn't sound like it worked out. I mean, none of those other girls even did anything. They did nothing. Yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, they did nothing. Yeah. Okay, so, but he had sex with you while she watched. Did you enjoy being that person, too?

I mean, because the cuck queen is the one sitting on the chair, but what they call you is the cuck cake. right? Like the cuck cake is the one who's like having sex with the husband while the cook queen watches. Like, did you enjoy being watched by the wife? I did, and I was really kind of turning it on with like, sort of like, you know, the dirty talk kind of thing. Because she was sitting there watching, but she was also playing with herself while she was watching. And we kind of talked about it through the night and she'd told me how it was hot. And when I met up with them, she, I'd gone or I'd gone to the bathroom and came back. And she'd basically said to him, like, fucking, you know,

start touching her or something kind of thing. He was just completely. These people hot? Any of like, you know, paint the picture. Is this like a, are you attracted to the woman? Are you attracted to the man? Are they a half couple, a young couple older? No, so they were kind of mid-forties. I have to be, yeah, I have to be attracted to the woman. So I actually have like a friends of benefit now. So we've just, we've been together. So I met him in the scene, we've been together for about six, nearly six months now. And when we, because we've started playing with couples and we're going to swinging, we're going to events and stuff. And we say to each other, we won't take one for the team.

Either one of us. Yeah, pardon. Either one of you won't take anyone. Neither one of you's going to be with someone that's going on track. Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, neither. And that we, we're both about the vibe. Because in this scene as well, there's a lot of people where it's very performative and competitive and I don't like that. That's not for me. Like, I love the connection and the sensuality of all of it.

I'm very, what I've learned about myself this year is like being in the moment and being with someone and being in that space of like pure like bliss and pleasure, like I come right into my body and in the moment. And yeah, it's incredible. and I can just let myself go with the right people. So you were very attracted to this couple and the woman sitting there on the side, right? Did she like to be humiliated with some of that dirty talk humiliation to her or no, it was just like talking about you being with her husband and that kind of thing?

Well, after that, yes, I think she probably would have liked that, but that's not me. And even like in the threasons, like with the cuck holding, like the humiliation and degrading part, that doesn't turn me on. Like if I was there and there was, yeah, I couldn't do that. I don't know. And I know that that's someone's kink. But if that was what they wanted, I couldn't do that. Right.

But you were playing into the role for her, though. Oh, completely. I was like, do you like, do you like watching him fuck me? You know, I was like saying things like that. Yeah, exactly. What else do you want? Yeah. And I was like, oh, can I suck his cock?

And, you know, I was kind of asking her permission. but, you know, knowing I could, knowing I could. Of course, of course. But getting her involved. Yeah, yeah. Which it wasn't expected, but I was, I just thought I'll just go with that. So, yeah. Did you start having threesomes with two guys after the couples?

Because as of now, like you've been with a couple of couples, right? Yeah, so those two couples. Oh, and then I was with one other couple and they were really lovely and sensual and whatever. So then I met this other guy and he was probably about 40, with him, that's what really turned him on. And so I was seeing, for me, I wanted, I had to be comfortable with the guys. So I'd been seeing this other guy who he had been married and him and his wife were in the scene. And so they used to have threesomes all the time, like MFMs all the time.

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That's promo code Strictly Anon. Visit Blu.com for more details and important safety information. And I thank Blue Chew for sponsoring the podcast. He had been married and him and his wife were in the scene. And so they used to have threesomes all the time, like MFMs all the time. Anyway, so I ended up having my first with these two guys. and it was so hot. It was amazing.

And I was, because one of the guys I had already done anal with. And so I was like, I want to try, like if it comes up, I just want to try everything. And I was like, because the one guy that I knew the most,

I'd said to him, you know, I want you to have my back. If, like, we do have DP, then I want you and my, asked, not the other guy, because I didn't know him very well. So anyway, it ended up, it was amazing.

Like, I love to set the scene and I have candles on and music and all that kind of stuff because music is what gets me into the space as well. And, yeah, they just, they were both confident. Like, that's what I love, the confident in their sexuality. Neither of them as, oh, I don't know, maybe one of them maybe had by curiosity, but he'd never taught me about it, but I think he probably was curious. So I did DVP and DP. Oh, how do you like that?

Or both of them? Yeah. How was it? Yeah, I've fucking loved it. I loved it. I think I loved DP more. And also that they were kind of good average sizes as well. So I think probably that was a good thing in terms of their size for DVP because, yeah, I couldn't imagine if it was too.

really big guys. But which did you prefer or do you enjoy them? A DP. Oh, really? I love, yeah, I really loved that. And it was in, I was in, so we were in the position of, I'm trying to think, oh no, that was for DVP, we're in the position of where I was reverse cow girl on one of the guys and then the other guy came in from, like came straight in.

Does that make sense? Yeah. It was facing me. Yeah. Like, yeah, so it was just hot. And it was so funny, there was one point where I was laying down. One guy was fucking mean. The other guy I had, he was leaning over me.

I had his cock in my mouth and he was playing with my clit. Well, the other guy was inside me. And I just had this moment. Oh, and the guy whose cock I had in my mouth, his balls were in my face. because he's coming from behind me. And there was this moment, I was just like, what the fuck? I just literally laughed out loud to go, no one would believe this. None of my friends.

No one would believe that this is Ava. So you have these experiences with the two guys, right? Now, you haven't met the guy that you're dating now, right? Was he one of those guys, one of the guys in the D.P. Or the threason that you had? No. I meet him later. I meet him later.

So that was all before. That was all probably April, May. And then I go away to Thailand. I have like a three week break, which is really good. It was a reset. And I was like, what am I doing? Because some of the, because I'd found out that one of those guys was married. And I was like, that's not what I want to be in.

I'm no drama. So I'm like, I don't want to be affecting anybody's lives. like this space is for, you know, anybody, but I'm not going to be involved in... That kind of nonsense. I totally get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. That's smart. Yeah, I just, yeah. So I then come back and I meet these two guys. So one was 34, one was 35 at different points and had really great connections with both of them. First started out, casual, but one, like I really connected on like more of a deeper spiritual level and we'd even talk things like like oracle cards like angel cards and all that kind of stuff. It was really cool. Like we would hang out and he was the one

who he was he was like a daddy dom and so he I'd never been able to say the word daddy. I'd been with some guys who wanted me to say daddy and I was like oh no ill like I can't relate to that. But this guy just fully explained because that's. what he liked. That was what he was used to being called. But he fully explained the whole meaning of it. It's got nothing to, you know, he was telling me it's got nothing to do with like the parental part of it. It's got to do with like the protector and like, you know, like I'll keep you safe, all this kind of stuff. So I went into that space with him and he was a switch as well. So he tried to, not try, but he like provided some safety where I could actually also have a little

bit of a go of being like dominant myself. But what was really interesting is that like that wasn't something that I was drawn to and it was really hard for me because I've been, I've become, I've come from this people pleasing place. Right. But also this submissive role. Anyway, so we had lots of fun, like we continue to have fun. He'd come over like once or twice a fortnight because he was also fly in, fly out. So he'd week on, week off. And then I met. this other guy who I'm still seeing now. And we had like a first, I had been to this kink workshop. So we've got Fet Life here as well.

So there's kind of like the Fet Life community. And then there's the Red Hot Pye. So the Red Hot Pie communities, your swingers, all of that, there is a crossover. And then obviously your Fet Life is you're more like specific kinks and fetishes and dungeon stuff. Yeah. So I went to just like display this one. night and I met these other people and anyway, I saw displays of like Shabari and then

a don't. And you went with him, right? Like he's the one that's like, I didn't. Sorry, that's what I just realized. I jumped. I went with this other girl that I speak to all the time. And then the next night I was meeting up with this guy. And part of his question, it was interesting when we first met, he's like, are you adventurous? Like that was one of his questions. I was like, oh, I don't like define adventurous. And then I went, well, this is what I did last night. Oh, you're definitely adventurous. The answer should have said, yes, I'm very adventurous.

Yeah. So we ended up meeting for a drink. And the bar that we were at closed after two hours. And I, like, he's so hot. This guy, oh my God. He's like, so he's 34 on, I think he's just, well, it's 35. he's like a strength and conditioning coach he's got the most beautiful body the most beautiful face our eyes just locked and i was like what the fuck what am i doing here thinking he's not going

to be interested in me but we just talked the whole time and we were flirty and our eyes connected and it was just fun anyway the bar closed and i thought oh yeah that's cool like i've met him you know we might meet up again, who knows? And as we're walking out, he was like, oh, so, like, can I, can I say, like, the name of the Swingers Club here or no? Of course. I don't know. There's only two.

So there's, so one of the Swingers Club here is called Infusions. And it's within, like, you know, it's in like an industrial area, which you wouldn't know. Anyway, he, because I'd already been there once, and I didn't have the best experience with that couple. he said to me, oh, like, it's been great meeting with you. I'd love to catch up again. He said, or if you want, we could just, we could go to infusions if you want. I was like, oh, here we go. And I was just like, fuck it. I was like, yep. And so I said, yeah, okay, so he went and got some drinks, because it's like, B.YO, he went and got some drinks. And then we met there. And from the minute we walked in,

like he was just, like, he's really affectionate. He calls himself a pleasure, Dom. Mm-hmm. And so when, like, we walked in and we went in as a couple, and he'd obviously been there before, like, they knew him. And we walked in and it was couples night. And he was like, yeah, couples nights the best. And I remember we walked in, we were there for about, I don't know,

only like 20 minutes. And we met this one, we're talking with this one couple. and we were very affectionate. We had our hands and arms in each other, like, and this couple said, how long have you got, how long have you two been together? Thinking that we'd been together for ages and also we told that we'd only met like two and a half hours ago. Oh, my God.

Yeah, so anyway, then he ended up taking me through to like the area where everyone can fuck and, yeah, like, we fucked. and it was amazing. He's amazing. God. Like still six months later. He can't get enough of him. So we, so it was, what I loved about him is he'd been in the scene the year before and he'd

come out and he went into a monogamous relationship for three months and it wasn't really for him and he came back into the scene. So what I loved when we were talking, he was like very specific. He's looking for two friends with benefits, you know, see each other. like maybe once a fortnight, so it doesn't get too relationship-y. Like he was like so prescriptive, but there was something about that that kind of turned me on. I loved that he'd been in the scene before, so I felt like, oh, he can show me some new things, you know?

So it didn't take, so it didn't take long that we then ended up, we moved to seeing each other once a week. I think we're seeing each other once a week, but we're seeing other people. So obviously other people. For me, safe sex is a really big thing. So I get, like, there's apps we can get free testing, and I always check with the guys that you're tested. And so because, you know, I knew he was seeing others and I was seeing others, like,

that's a big conversation for me as well. So, yeah, I went to, like, a meet and greet with him. And then he taught to, then all of a sudden he introduced me to terminologies in the scene, like the E&M scene. So like, then we went to this meet and greet and he's like, so I'm going to tell people that you're my primary. So like, you're my primary friends with benefit. And I was like, okay, at first I was like, I didn't like it. At first I was like, what's that about?

But then I realized when you're in that space, that's the conversation that tells people where you're at. Yeah, of course. Yeah. So we, with him, so it just became really. safe. He, we went, oh, that's right, we went to a kink workshop. So we'd only been seeing each other for about four weeks. And, and there's like a dominatrix in the scene here. She does these workshops and it was called like consent to connection. So it was all about, you know, full consent. It was the traffic light system talking about that and had all these different

types of kinks and fetters that they talked about and how to do it safely. So choking, all that kind of stuff. But there was one guy from FetLife, there's a lot of people from FetLife community there. There was one guy that did knife play. And I remember sitting there and this girl was like, oh, I'll volunteer for you. And I was like, oh, knife play. That sounds horrendous. Scary. But he was, yeah, he was talking about the different stages so that there was like the knife play where it's the physical part where you're feeling the different edges of the blade. And then there's the psychological where they can build up to where their hands, where their hands almost on your throat.

And you actually almost get to a point where you feel as though they're going to cut your throat. So that whole psychological part. And then there was the blood play. And he said he doesn't do the blood play. And so I was like, I was sitting there. I'm a little judgy inside head going. Oh, on knife play.

Anyway, we watched this one demonstration. This girl came up and she just sort of took her top off and so her shoulders were exposed. And he turned her back to us all so we could see how he used one side of the knife. And the guy that I'm with, he and I just kind of looked at each other. I went, oh, that looked good. There was something that, yeah, that happened to my body.

Anyway, at the end, I was like, oh, I'll have a go. So I got up and I just pushed my jacket and my top leg to the side. So my sort of, say, right side shoulder and back was exposed. And something happened where he did. So it was on the edge where it was on the edge of the knife where it was. So he did the full consent, asked about past traumas. It was really actually really good.

Asked about if there was any past trauma or anything that you could be triggered. they do like this spray, this antiseptic spray on your skin, all this kind of stuff. And so it was kind of these light, you could see sort of light cuts, not cuts, but light, I suppose, marks on your skin. But my whole body just, I can't explain it. This whole wave came over and the guy that I'm with, he saw me, the guy who was doing it to me felt me and saw me go in this kind of wave. I just went in this weird space.

And he only did it for like about two minutes. And then afterwards he's like, okay, she needs sugar. You need to get her into a warm, all this kind of stuff. He said to me, I'm going to, can I check in on you? All this stuff. I was like, wow. I think you kind of have to be that way when you're dealing in something so sort of hardcore, don't you think? Yeah, yeah, totally.

And I, like, that was the safety around that as well. Bring on like, you know, murder. Like, you know, fucking knife play. Like, you know, it could be very traumatizing and triggering. And I think with BDSM, when people are doing it properly, you know, that's the way it's supposed to be handled and stuff, you know. And that's why it's unfortunate sometimes when BDSM stories get out there and people think, oh, these people are freaks and stuff. Because most of the time, the people that are really doing it and taking it seriously, they are very cautious and very caring of the other person. It's not like meant to be like a punishment or something in a negative way, you know?

So I think it's nice that there was such nice aftercare. Well, it was. And that, exactly. And that's what they talked about, the aftercare. And I think that was a really safe space to see that. And actually, it's just reminded me, like, we actually said, like, the guy that I'm with, like, we said, oh, you know, maybe we'll explore that. But the guy who did the demonstration, I ended up linking up with him on FetLife. just to go, hey, like, I'm here because he said for me to message him.

And he said any time that my guy wants any advice, so he told him what type of knife and where to get it. Oh, my God. But we actually haven't got, but yeah, but we haven't gone there, to be honest. But we've tried so many things. And I've gone into this, I've tried my DOM space. So where we've done, like, we'll do this thing where he'll message me and we get into this, like, real space when he's on his way over and he'll be like,

I want you on your knees. I want you to put your blindfold on, on your knees, leave the door open, kind of that kind of hot stuff. And so we tried this one scene where, like, we do lots of roleplay. I love getting dressed up in my lingerie and all of that. We, I dressed up and as a queen dom, so I was my queen era. And I have, like I love, I've embraced the inner slut.

So that's what I'm like. I'm your little slut. I'm your good girl. And so this guy, he's daddy. So I've embraced that. And that's, you know, that's our words of affection. Do you guys have like threesomes and stuff like that together? Or are you just like more in that other world of BDSM?

No, like the BDSM is what plunged us into this deep connection. And so we have this like beautiful deep connection. But yeah, he loves. So we've had a threesome with another guy and I've wanted to. like it's really strange. The other guys, I didn't have any real, I suppose, connection with like I do this guy. And it's, I'm so specific on who I want to bring in because I was worried, but he's all into it.

He just wants me to be pleasured. And we've planned a threesome with a girl that he played with a few times last year. But we've planned, I think we've made, we've planned it three times now, but for whatever reason, and she's not been able to do it. It's been cancelled. But this weekend we're meeting up with a couple. So we've video chatted with them and they're coming back to, like we're going to meet for drinks and then they'll come back to mine.

And she's bisexual. So I don't, a lot of the couples in the scene just do a full like a swap. So you just like fuck each other next to each other on the bed and that's, then you come back to your partner and blah, blah, blah. I love where it's the sensuality of where I'm kissing and playing with the girl and then the guys, you know, join in with us. So I love that when it's with another couple. So, yeah, we do that as well. And we just went to a hedonism party on last weekend, which was wild.

And yeah, and so we're going to another one for New Year's Eve. We're booked the New Year's Eve one. So, yeah, we love to. because I'm, we're each other's primary and we kind of went into this space where we were like really into and infatuated with each other and we've actually come back out a little bit because we were seeing each other too much. We're spending weekends together. It was very intense. So yeah, now we're playing with couples. We go, we say to each other where each other's person for going to events.

And, yeah, we love connecting with other couples. Are you, do you feel romantic towards this guy? Like, he's, he considered your boyfriend? He's not, so we now refer to each other as our, he's my primary partner. Yeah, so does that mean he's your boyfriend or do you feel romantic feelings for him or is he like a play friend or something? I don't know. I feel like we, probably about six weeks ago. So we both, like, we were in our BDSM space and then we both tried each other.

We loved each other. Like it was, yeah, it's from nice. But do you, how do you feel like, do you like being open with this guy? Do you want to see him with other women? Like, what is your deal as far as like being romantically involved with someone and being in this lifestyle now? Because it's very different than what you did before. Very different. I think my ideal would be, I'd love to have like a partner and we play with other couples.

I have threesomes together. what triggers my jealousy, what really triggers my jealousy is now that we're in this deep space. We were only seeing each other for about four or five weeks and now we're like, yeah, it's too intense because he's, he doesn't want that, it came in and he didn't want one partner. Like he's been in long-term relationships and monogamous relationships for years. And so that was, that's what he said from the beginning. So I've always respected that. Plus also the age gap.

Like it's, like it makes me sad sometimes. Like I wish, like I was 10 years younger. Yeah. Because I, but then I don't know because the solo, like when he goes off and play solo and so do I. Like that, like, and he says to me. Does that bother you? Well, it triggers my jealousy. Of course.

Because he said to me, like, what would you be most jealous of if I was with someone who was 28 or? 50 and it's got nothing to do with age. I said to him it's to do with the emotional connection. So that's what I'm afraid of. Like we've got this deep emotional like connection and the sex is incredible. But that's what worries. That's what worries me. We have put a few boundaries on where we say like, like he only wants me to call him daddy

and like some of things that we do like in like he chokes. He's got a jiu-jitsu background as well. And so I feel so safe with him. But he chokes me like, to the edge. Oh my God. I'm sorry, but like with choking,

I always have to give my choking PSA. It's fine for you to have, no, no, no, there's nothing wrong with it. Consensual truthing is fine. Your guy is an MAA, MMA fighter. He knows what to do. He's very smart.

He's your actual primary partner. He's your boyfriend. You know him, but like I had a girl on recently. Yeah, I would never do it. No, that was literally met a guy and was hooking up with him in a parking lawn. She let him choke him. And I was like, you can't let strangers

choke you out. Okay. I'm sorry, and somebody made a comment like, oh, what's wrong with that? It's like there's everything wrong with that when it comes to stuff like that. So, yeah, it's fine. I'm sorry. I just have to give the PSA note. Like, you only let your boyfriend's choke to.

And your husband. Only, and we have the traffic light system too. So the minute that one of us says red or I'll touch it, like if I can't speak, like he knows my hand signal and we learn all that as well. Like just, I need to just touch his arm. What are your rules though? What is on your guy's horizon now as a couple now that you've made it official and everything? Yeah, I don't know. I think because we were so intense and we've pulled back a bit, we were getting really couple-ish and I think we were kind of getting more monogamish. And it was, I had curiosity. I still wanted to go and have like meet up with other guys and I know he wanted to with other girls. But we, I don't know, we just, we got to this space where I felt like it was too much to, there was too much pressure. We said as long as we're open and honest and we tell each other.

and then it just became like, how am I going to tell him or I want to do this? And is he going to think? I don't like, I don't know. I don't understand what you're saying. So did you guys say let's just be monogamous for now? Or did you say let's stop being too close and being monogamous and go back to whatever we want? So we've, yeah, so we've stepped back. So I was actually like, I used to see a guy kind of semi-regular.

And I actually told, like there was three guys and I told them, hey, I'm just sort of focusing on this guy right now. because we were then also playing with others. So I kind of reached back out and there's like one guy. And we met this other guy together. So the guy that I'm with now, we met this couple and we asked if they wanted to play with us. And the girl was like, no, I want an older woman to dominate me in a threesome.

But that wasn't for me. And then that guy asked if he wanted to play with me solo. So I just kind of said to him, hey, like this guy wants. to play with me solo and I'm going to, I just want to let you know. So we're kind of trying to re, we're stepping back a bit. So we're still having our solo play, but we're still together and connected. And we're still our prime, we're still primary partners. And we tell, and this is what I've said, we'll tell other people that, that we're our

primary partners. And then we've said to each other, there's some things we don't want the other person to do because that's our intimate space. That's interesting. I mean, listen, some people I've heard of. of monogamous people, non-monogamous people being monogamous for a specific about a time only because they're so into each other they just want to be. But I've also heard of people that are just very open from the get-go and that's just the what they want to do, you know? It sounds like

you have some reservations because of the age gap maybe just for something very long-term. So I think maybe that's why you're not fully committing and maybe keeping a little space available, maybe. Yeah, I am. Yeah, I am because I think if he wanted to, too. Like I would ignore the age gap, but it's him, like leading that. And I hate that. I hate that. He's got the power. I understand why you're like not going to give up everybody and everything. Yes. Fully committed and be monogamous to him because there's a little bit of that going on. So that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I don't want to be monogamous. I like I still want us to play with other people. Yeah. But what's really safe about him? So that was that whole thing about I've healed a lot. I had a really, and with my previous. partners who were all like these avoidant partners, I had a real anxious attachment. And this guy is like, he's got a little bit of avoidance, but he's such an amazing communicator. So I can talk about big feelings that come up. And he just holds that space. Yeah, that's amazing. And he'll talk about it. I mean, listen, it's somebody like that in your life, whether he lasts for two years or 10 years or

two more months. It's very helpful for your journey. Like he's perfect for you right now, you know. I think sometimes I used to be afraid to fully commit to people because I would see an ending and I'd be like what I, you know, but what I learned over time and I've watched other people do it that have more balls than me is like sometimes it's just okay to just fully commit and do it and know that, yeah, there probably will be an ending. But when it happens, you'll be fine. Like you'll be able to handle it. So what's a big deal? Like, why not fully commit and fully enjoy anyway? You know what I mean? That's so true.

That's so true because that's what I've said to myself. He's come into my life for a reason. It's been amazing. So I'm just enjoying it. And you know what? He's actually coming. Like, this is so wild. He's actually coming to an event.

There's a Ministry of Sound, big concert here, like in December. And that's with my vanilla friends. And so I'm crossing worlds. And he's coming with me to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He calls it Muggle World. And I've told them, like, I've called, we're just calling each other friends with benefits for the sake of my friends. Because like if they see him out then another time and he's with somebody else. I don't want them to think. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think you should enjoy him for all that he is and just let yourself fall.

Yeah, let yourself fall a little bit more even if you want. Stop with the reservations and just get into it because he sounds like, like you said, he's helping you a lot. He's different, right? He finally broke your pattern. You're sitting across from a different gun. guy. Yes.

He's not forever guy, but who cares? Most people aren't going to be a forever guy anyway, but it's super a guy anyway, but it's super interesting that you met him. Now, listen, I'm going to need a six-month update from you because you kind of like, you had a lot of stories here, but you really just started. I mean, you've only been doing this for a year. You kind of just started a relationship. So this is going to be a whole new thing of how you're going to navigate it and what's

going to happen with this guy and you just got into BDSM, you know, so you'll have to keep me updated. I will give you free access to my Patreon. If you want to send me anonymous picks for my Patreon. Okay. Okay. Yeah, but I won't do that. Anonymous.

No. R-rated. I always say that for my Patreon, not X-rated, but you'll also get free access to my Discord. And that's very naughty over there. No, I don't know if you're down for that, but you can certainly go on there. You'll get free access for it. And there's like a guest channel and people could post.

That's a place where people post their own stuff themselves. But if you wanted me to post other pictures for you over there, I can do that as well. So send me everything sooner than later. Okay, I will send you some of the lingerie stuff that I've posted. Yeah, that's perfect. Thank you so much for doing this podcast. It's like so great. It just is normalizing the whole scene and I love hearing, you know, your other guests.

So thank you so much, Kathy, for doing this. I love that. Well, thanks for being a guest who also is helping other people because I do think a lot of people nowadays, especially women. I see so many more women lately signing up from my Patreon and everything and more women emailing me. Because I think more women. or opening up and learning. And people come to podcast nowadays to learn and to, you know, about different things. And I think that that's great.

And it's like, you know, and now your episode will help other people as well. So thanks for finally calling in. Thank you. Well, it's so freeing. And like, realizing like the pleasure of your body and what it can do. God, I wish I started this like 20 years ago. No, I know. No, I know.

But a lot of times that's the time when people sort of. start living that way because like younger years are about building a career and taking care of your children and everything. You know what I mean? And you don't have the same body confidence. I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or there's like zero fucks. You give zero fucks anymore. Yeah, that's what happens when you get older. You just don't really care. And you, and you, and you said you were a people pleaser. I think most people pleasers, you know, when they hit middle age or something, they finally are like enough fucking people pleasing. I'm going to take care of myself. I mean, I was never a people Pleaseer. All my people please are friends get fucking sick of it at a certain point.

Finally, and they're, you know, they start pleasing themselves. And that's what you did. And I think that that's great. So make sure to send me the pictures ASAP. Thank you so much for calling in so early in the morning because you're all the way in Australia. You got the best voice ever. And I'll email you when your episode's going to go up. Okay. Okay. Thanks so much, Kathy. Have a great day. You too. Bye. Bye. Bye. See you. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession

Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and e-book but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is

basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. There's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true.

I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories, 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around.

You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me.

Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be.

It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the e-book, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord.

So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.