Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1308 - Non-Monogamous Relationships, First Date Foursomes and More w/Doc Chocolate & Fun Charlie

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

What is it like to be in a non-monogamous relationship and did Doc Chocolate and Fun Charlie take part in a foursome on their first date??? Tune in to find out and hear all the details including why they were both single but looking for a partner while in the lifestyle, how both their first lifestyle relationships didn’t work out and why they didn’t work out, how and why they both didn’t like being single in lifestyle, what they were both looking for in a partner and why non-monogamy was a must have for the both of them, how and when they wound up together, the podcaster he hooked up with on his first date with Charlie and what went down, the jealousy issues Charlie has had in their open relationship and how Doc has dealt with them plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics ANGELICA plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Holiday Sale PLUS $50 off! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://loadboost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay, today I have on Doc Chocolate and his girl fun Charlie. They called in to talk about dating in the lifestyle. I wanted to talk about that because I think a lot of single people have wrote into me and ask about how to meet partners and all that kind of good stuff. And they're like a couple that is navigating the lifestyle together, but they both had relationships beforehand in the lifestyle. and they talk about why those relationships didn't work. They both also talk about why they didn't really enjoy being solo that much in the lifestyle

and why they started looking for another partner. Then they talk about how they met each other. They reveal a very interesting thing that I found interesting because it involved a foursome with a fellow podcaster. So you want to hear that kind of gossip. I didn't know that forsome existed. And then they do discuss some bumps in the road. they have had, Charlie has been jealous in their relationship, even though they're very professional

lifestylers, that kind of shit comes up. She talks about what she's been jealous of. They both talk about how they've worked through it and all that kind of good stuff. So I feel like this is a very helpful episode. It's also super interesting to hear about them together, navigating a lifestyle together. Because last I spoke, they had just got together. Okay, they were newly dating and now they're like a year in. They're living together and they're the real deal. So anyway, I'm going to be get right to and be right back on with Doc Chocolate and Fun Charlie. Hey, Doc Chocolate and Fun Charlie. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.

I told you I wanted to do a threesome with you guys and this is the threesome I proposed, a combo. I got very excited when you said, and then when you said that it was not going to be in person, I was like, God damn it. I loved it. I was like, hell, yes, she knows you so well. I'm crossing over.

I mean, like, listen, in my world a threesome is a three-way conversation. conversation in your I mean you actually live in my world because you do have a great podcast called Bulls and Queens podcast and that's your thing I'll put a link in the description but you also live in the swinger world and that's what we're gonna and so you do you know a threesome to you could mean a couple things right but we're gonna have a three-way convo and I was like oh why don't we talk about like dating in the lifestyle because I remember uh you know I've talked to you many times uh Doc chocolate and when I first had Charlie on the phone she was talking about her whole back story and I have your guys back stories already, right? She was telling me that she had just met a guy, you know,

she, like, she started it out in the lifestyle as a unicorn. And I don't know how I put it together, but I'm like, are you dating Doc Chocolate? You know, and it turned out she was. And you guys started dating. So I was like, oh, let's do a whole conversation about, you know, dating in the lifestyle. Because I think that, you know, it's hard to navigate and you guys would know because, like, Charlie, you were dating for a while. I mean, you had a divorce. You had only been with, like, bad guys in your past, right? Like, it was that the case? Like, and you even were with a guy in the lifestyle that wasn't so great, correct? Like, you had a, a boyfriend in the lifestyle that didn't go well? Yeah, I had, I was married for 18 years, and I had a couple partners before that, but nothing crazy. And then about four or five years after that, after the pandemic, I met a guy on a dating app, and he brought me into the lifestyle. but I probably was a unicorn for about six months then, and then we dated for three years, and then six months after that, I was a unicorn, and then I met Doc.

Now, let me ask you this. Being in the lifestyle as a solo woman, like, were you, like, not so fulfilled and knew that you wanted to have a relationship within the lifestyle, or did it just happen? Like, you know, how were you feeling before you met that guy? So I was, I did not want a relationship at all, like zero. But then when I found the lifestyle and got in and everything, and I found intense sex, like basically, you know, everything that you could possibly want in the lifestyle you can find if you know how to find it. But I found that after a night of intense sex, orgasms and all that, I dropped so low the next day if I did not have a person to cuddle with and hang out with. And I was like, yes.

Yeah, that makes sense. It did. And I did learn how to self, you know, self-soothe and stuff, but it still isn't the same. And the lifestyle is fun as a unicorn, but it's just so much more fun with a couple as a couple. And because you can do, because, you know, Doc and I do both. We solo and, you know, so it's kind of the best of both worlds. But, yeah, I found out really quickly that I needed a person. I love that.

I think that that's a real thing. And I wonder, do guys experience that, Doc Chocolate? Do you guys experience that kind of thing? Probably not. Well, you know what? What? We do. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, most guys do, I mean, they're not going to really verbalize it. Yeah. You know, because, you know, they want to, we want to appear, you know, macho and stuff. And cool, yeah. But, you know, we definitely need to have that, that aspect of relationship. with a partner. And so, yeah, we get those dopamine crashes.

As well. So did you find that because you've navigated the lifestyle like Charlie, both single and in relationships even before her? Like, how was it being single in the lifestyle for you versus being with somebody? So for me, it kind of sucked because, I mean, I was married for about 23 years. And we got into the lifestyle about six, seven years previous to splitting up. And when I was technically single, and this was probably for about a span of maybe about two years, it kind of sucks, you know, but I was going through a lot of other life events and things.

And so I kind of just made the focus of that time frame. to be one where I rediscovered myself and, you know, just connected with, you know, who I am, what I wanted for the second half of my book, you know, of life. And prepared yourself. So if you wind up in a relationship again, you're like a better person because of it. Like that, like you weren't like, right? You were just taking time to work on yourself. Correct.

Correct. Because, you know, I knew it was, it was a question of when and not if I would get into another relationship. You're both relationship people, obviously. Oh, yes. I think so, yeah. Yeah, and it's interesting, though, and that's why I picked you guys, because I think it's super interesting to show that, like,

relationship people can find relationships inside of this world, right? Because you typically would think maybe not, you know? I mean, here you were fun, Charlie, like a unicorn, feeling kind of empty, you know. You had that one guy. Why did it not work out with him when you were in? the lifestyle. So we had, I would say, that's a complicated, that's a very later, but the easy answer is we just had different ideas of what we thought was good lifestyle.

And I would say our communication styles were definitely very, very different. And so it was just, there were. many layers and, yeah, without bad mouth. Let me try to put, let me put the words in your mouth. Like, are you trying to say that like with him and you, like, I mean, here you were in the relationship inside, you know, the lifestyle, being non-monogamous, but it was triggering for you because of the way that, you know, your rules and boundaries were maybe not respected.

That is a, yes, yes. I would say he did not. the best communicator and he did not he was not into being transparent which is very very important in this you have to be transparent and you can't be shady and you got to be you have to know how to create a secure safe environment because if you can't then the your partner is never going to feel safe and feel like you're you know you're on a team that's that's the biggest thing i think is like the teammate aspect and i'm i'm very jealous of people who are married and then come into this because they have that down they they are teammates they are sick of each other they are excited for

each other to have all these experiences but when you meet somebody in the lifestyle or you try to bring somebody into the lifestyle it's like you haven't had any of those experiences together so it's like all that's new and you're trying to create trust and date and do the lifestyle and fuck other people and you know it's it's a lot and then you add content creation onto that and it's insane it kind of sounds impossible and if you ask me maybe crashing afterwards is a lot better than what he put you through do you know what I'm saying yeah definitely yeah for sure yeah and that was your first relationship in the lifestyle that guy yes he brought me in but yeah it's it's It's insanely complicated and you really have to talk a lot.

So now when you, how long was it between him, like after him that you met Doc Chocolate? Because I wonder after that experience, were you like, oh my God, I'm not going to try this again? Is that when you decided to be a unicorn or were you a unicorn before I forgot? Yes, no. So I absolutely did not want to date anybody. And then I got into Doc's group and I flirted with her. Oh, Doc, I'm sorry. Doc has a content creator group.

on telegram. You know, it's like 600, 700 content creators. It's very good for networking and, you know, learning everything about the business. And so I was like, I got to get into that group. I got into that group. And then I flirted with him on Twitter. And he was like, hey, you got to be on my podcast.

And I was like, hell, yeah, let's do that. And then, you know, it went from there. But, yeah, I did not want to date at all. And even when I went to visit Doc, I was like, I am not falling for him. But let me ask you this, right, I got it. But let me ask you this, though, fun, Charlie. Like, after having that bad experience in the lifestyle with that guy, were you, like,

turned off to the lifestyle in general, or did you still know that you wanted to remain in it, but you were just going to remain in solo? Oh, yeah. No, no, no. I love the lifestyle. It's like, when I found it, it was like, oh, my God, this is the thing that I've been missing. I didn't know I was missing.

Really? So I will forever be lifestyle. and that was one of the biggest things on my list that the other person had to be. And so Doc Chocolate for you, like you're going through this period, you know eventually you're going to get out of it and that's when you want another relationship. Like you said, it wasn't a matter if, it was like a matter when. So like when did you, you know, was it soon after that you realized you were ready to have another relationship that you met Charlie or did you date a many people before her? Great question. And so I'm just like Charlie where, you know, I'm always going to be lifestyle.

So I'm dead style. And when I got, broke up with my wife, I spent a few months, I want to say about six months solo. And I met another crater, another female crater. And we dated shortly for a few months. And that didn't work out. And after that, I just made a list. Kathy of things that were negotiables and non-negotiables that I wanted from my future partner. And basically, I said to myself, hey, if a lady falls into these categories, then she's going to be good for me to date.

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because i think it's important to know like what doesn't kind of work in a relationship in the lifestyle like that woman that you met before charlie like was it just like she just wasn't the one and it was like a chemistry thing or was there specific things that she did that didn't work for you in a relationship in the lifestyle? So the specific things about the previous lady was she basically, what is the word? She basically self-sabotaged the relationship. So she basically was looking for negatives that weren't there in regards to my character and whatever she found, she basically tried to magnify it, if that makes sense.

Yeah, she sounds a bit unstable and maybe probably not ready for a real relationship. Correct, correct. Let me ask you this, both of you guys, because you've been single in the lifestyle, you for a couple months, Charlie, for longer. Like, do you, because I think the sort of word on the street would be like, oh, yeah, a lot of the single people there would be like, you know, crazy or trauma people, you know, from their past and that's why they're acting out and they're doing all this sexual stuff. I mean, do you find that the people in the, like that, you know, if you're trying to date

in the lifestyle, you have like a large pool of, like, amazing people or not? Charlie laughed. That sounds like that. Well, maybe it's a different, maybe there's a different pool of guys than girls. I don't know. You tell me. Would you like to answer that? Ladies first.

Okay. Okay. So I think I have a very good pool of. kind of observation because I I secrets was my stomping ground and that is a very good a petri dish of a little bit of everything all the time and so I got to see a lot of stuff I think there are a lot of good people that are single that are in the lifestyle there are equally a lot of people who really need to go to therapy and work their shit out yeah I honestly think the biggest problem with people dating

in the lifestyle is they don't know how to do it. They don't know what the proper things are. And I mean, we both are very knowledgeable and we fucked up many, many times. So it's like... I'm talking to the perfect couple. There are so many things. Yeah.

Yes, yes. So it's like even people who know what they're seemingly know what they're doing, we didn't, we've messed up so many times and we've had to, you know, go back to the drawing board many, many times. So, but the thing, the theme that I see the most is that people aren't treating their partner like they should when they're trying to create this thing. And they're not, and the one overwhelming idea is that if you're jealous,

you shouldn't be in the lifestyle. And that's just a bunch of bullshit. Everybody gets jealous. You've got to learn how to deal with your jealousy. Yeah, it's a normal human being, like feeling. Yes. I mean, yes. In everyone. Yeah. Yes. So that, I feel like that, a lot of single people are like, oh, well, you're jealous. You're not, you know, suited for this. And I'm like, you are canceling a lot of people out because, you know, it's like, it's not a one or done thing. You know, you have to learn how to work it, work with it and work it out and stuff.

Yeah. So that I would say that that's probably the biggest thing. There are a lot of good people. They just don't know what they're doing necessarily. Yeah. And listen, it's a lot, it's very easy for me sitting here as a single person to be like, oh, why be jealous, blah, blah, blah. I'm not in a relationship

totally vulnerable, intimate with someone else. I mean, like, how do those people know whether they'd be fucking jealous or not? If they were like in love with somebody watching them, fuck somebody else for the first time. I mean, it's easy for a single person to sort of just imagine that they would be fine. But you really don't know until you're in it.

And I always say, because I have friends in New York City who are swingers and they're fucking professionals and they're not possessive at all. And sometimes it's just a matter of the way the wind blows that they might fucking feel jealous because of maybe what the person did or what somebody else did. You know, you just don't know, you know. It could happen to anyone.

Yes, and here's the thing. Okay, and I've been, because I've been a unicorn and I've been in relationships, I played for six months with my first boyfriend as a friends with benefits. I had zero issues. There were no jealousy whatsoever. Exactly. The only time that came into factor is when the feeling started. Of course.

Then we had to start all over again. And that's so it's like, I think people are like, yeah, I, you know, I take dates, you know, Doc used to take ladies for the weekend with different, you know, in different events and stuff. And it's like, of course you're not, you know, they're not going to get jealous. You're not going to get jealous. You're not, you're not, you don't have super strong feelings. You like this person. You know, you might love them as a friend, but you don't, you're not in love with them. So those jealousy feelings aren't likely to pop up as much as if you're actually like hardcore in, you know, in the feels. department. So as soon as that starts, that it's just, and I've heard so many, and there are actually other podcasts where bulls and unicorns have gotten together, and they've said the same thing. It's like, oh, they thought they were going to rock this out. And then as soon as they started to have a feeling, it was like, oh my God, what the hell is this? You know? Yeah, but that's like life. That's, you know what I said? I could sit here and say, yeah, I'd love when I get my next guy to watch and fuck someone else. But in reality, how do I know how I'm going to feel when I fall for that person, you know,

And you don't know. You don't. Yeah. How do you feel about what we're talking about, Doc Chocolate? So I feel like there's very good singles overall in the lifestyle. Yeah. I feel personally just my opinion that the single pool in the lifestyle was probably better than in the vanilla world. Yeah.

Because when, wait, because when Charlie said, oh, so many of them, you know, you think that they need therapy. But isn't that the same in the vanilla world? Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and I come from the divorce business, right? Yeah. And so, you know, when it comes to long-term relationships and marriages, there's a 50% chance that first-time couples will get a divorce. There's a 60% chance that second-timers will get a divorce. And there's a 74% chance that third-timers will get a divorce. And so that's one thing or variable that is. pretty strong amongst long-time couples and marriages. And in the lifestyle or non-monogamous, that is a variable that shouldn't be pregnant because, I mean, the reason why we're in the lifestyle

is so that we can fuck other people. So if we take out that cheating equation, then, you know, that kind of gives you... And that monotony. Yeah. ...for a greater chance of success. Yeah, no, totally. Quick question.

Let me ask you this, because this, I think, is important. Like, do you think if, like, somebody is like listening to this because they want to know how to navigate and they're single and they want to get a relationship insight and get into the lifestyle. Like do you think that most people in the lifestyle who are single want to remain single or do you think a lot of those people are open for relationships? I personally think that most people long term would be open for a relationship. Maybe in the short term they want to just be solo. Yeah. Because like listen you're in a place like like-minded people.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it doesn't get more like-minded than having sex with other people. No, yeah, no, because I do sometimes say, like, because I get questions on my confession telling people, and people will be like, oh, you know, it's somebody that wants to get a lifestyle, they're single, and they want to meet somebody that will, and it's like, you could go to the apps, or I sometimes say, like, go to a swinger club alone, because, like, maybe there's other singles there, and what better place to meet somebody that's, like, into the same shit that you are?

Like, I mean, you were both two single people. you met each other, both knowing that, you know, with the knowledge that you were both also very non-monogamous people, but also very much relationship people. So you had to be fishing out of that pond for your people because it wasn't going to be like neither one of you was going to be in a vanilla relationship, correct? Correct. Oh, no. Correct. Yeah. I can't go back. Yeah. Yeah. And one of my non-negotiables, Kathy, is that whatever lady I ended up with, Yeah. 100% she needed to be lifestyle.

Yeah. That was mine too. What were other things that were specific to the lifestyle if there were any others on your less stock chocolate? So, so for me, I definitely, lifestyle, they needed to be lifestyle. And then two, something that was negotiable was I would prefer that the lady be bisexual. It just opens up more fun. And I would prefer that she was a constant creator. But, you know, it wasn't something that she needed to be a constant creator.

But if she's a content creator, she can understand my world a bit better. I wanted somebody that was over the age of 35 because I like mature women. I don't like little girls. Another thing that I was looking for was somebody that was non-black, Asian, white, Hispanic, just because I had been in a marriage 23 years with a black woman. And before that, you know, I primarily dated black women. So I just wanted to try something different. Yeah, I got it.

And then I wanted her to have no more than two kids, especially if they're younger kids. I don't. No, no, not you, Charlie, Doc. You have a child. Yeah, you have one 16-year-old. And also I wanted her to be financially solvent, you know, just so that it wasn't a thing where, you know, I'm having to support her. Yeah, you don't want to carry someone. Listen, I think that's what first marriages are for, you know, kind of been there talking.

You have the kids, you support the wife, you know, like first marriages are very different than second marriages. I don't know, I think it's a different kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then, you know, another last thing is I just wanted her to have, you know, a physical, a physical look to her. You're of a time. You know, I wanted her to be, yeah, yeah, yeah, like slim, petite ladies, like athletic ladies, even hourglass-shaped ladies, you know, they have the booty in the hips and the thin waist. I like that, too, you know. It's a ratio, right?

That matters. It's the ratio. the three-year ratio. Yeah, exactly. Because if I'm, yeah, if I'm with a woman, Kathy, I like to be able to pick her up and throw her around. It's also around. I'm a pretty strong guy.

Yeah. But I like to be able to give her some earmiles, you know? Yeah, I hear you. You like a spinner? I love a spinner. Do those exist? Okay. They definitely do.

So let's get to the point where you guys meet because, like, you knew you wanted a relationship dark chocolate. I mean, you had your fucking list ready and everything. like you were manifesting it. But like fun Charlie, you were like not interested, correct? I,

I, mentally I was open to, I'm always open. I'm not going to pass up a good thing. If they're presenting, you know, if everything looks good, I'm at least going to consider it.

But I was just like, I was so done with men, just in general. I was just done with the, all of that. But, you know, Yeah, so when we met and, you know, Doc is definitely a different breed.

So that definitely made a huge difference for sure. So you could tell right off the bat, like this wasn't the guy that you had sworn off. This was like a different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there were a couple things that he happened to have the same number as me, like the area code. We happened to, he lived in the place where I grew up.

So I was like, is this guy fucking with me? Nobody in Florida, you know? Yeah. So that was kind of a thing that brought us together. But we also were, we also had a little trauma from the same couple months apart. And so that kind of connected us a little bit too and made us realize, oh, shit, we got a shit ton of stuff in common. But yeah, so that, there were so many things. And when somebody is in front of you and it's like, my big thing is.

men just are not good communicators. The men that I choose are not good communicators. So it was just, that was, that was the only thing on my list that had to be, like, they have to be a good communicator. They have to be willing to talk. And Doc is like, you know, communicator, uh, extraordinary. So I was that, I was just like, I can't not at least consider this situation. How soon after you guys, he's a great salesman.

Wait, but how soon after you guys met did you fuck? Because you're in the lifestyle. We barely made it from the airport. Yeah, yeah. Wait, but you get into his group, wait, but you get into his group, you guys are like talking and stuff. So, like, first time you meet each other in person? So he's in Las Vegas and I'm in Florida.

Okay. So we talked for... Well, she was in Florida. Oh, yeah, I was in Florida. Yeah. We talked for... what, a month or so? Yeah, about a month or two.

Yeah, a couple months because I was dealing with some family stuff at the time, so I couldn't leave. And then a couple months in, I was able to leave. He's like, you know, come here for a couple weeks. I'll pay for a ticket. We'll do clabbing and whatever, blah, blah, blah. And we had already exchanged our lists of what, you know, we were open. We were both aware that we were open to dating.

But I was like, I'm just going to go. go and get, you know, my fuck on and have some fun and, you know, we'll see what this guy's got. And we fucked for like a week and a half, two weeks. And he's like, you know what? We probably should start taping something. Oh my God. And as soon as I got her from the airport, Kathy. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. As soon as I got her from the airport, Kathy, I'd take her back to my place. And I didn't even let her shower up. I didn't care. Like, I was having Thanksgiving Day dinner. Yeah. Oh, my God.

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Yeah. Oh my God. Eating and eating away. Oh my God. And was the chemistry just like there? Yes. Immediately. Yeah.

You could tell on the podcast and the Zoom meetings that we were just like, there was so much chemistry. So it was like obvious that there was something there. That's something I was going to go down. Yeah. In fact, the guy that my, my ex, when I left for Vegas, he's like, you're not coming back. And I was like, shut the fuck up. He knew it.

He's like, I know. Yeah, he heard the podcast. He's like, you guys have so much chemistry, you're not coming back. Yeah. Oh, right. Easy. Okay. So now you did, let's get into the relationship.

So you guys like meet and fuck and like you're, now do I, should I assume that like the minute you guys met and you fuck for a week and a half like it was on right between the two of you how long did it how much talk is like oh yeah i got her i got her immediately but i mean like no i mean like did you start dating immediately like was it like that kind of a thing oh oh so so what happened is when i see something i like and i want kathy yeah i go after it yeah i can tell by your answer just two seconds ago You said, I got that. Yeah.

So I wanted Charlie. And so, you know, I let her know. So I didn't let her know in like a creepy, weird way. But I just let it be known to her that, you know, I liked her. And I think that we would be a good fit together. And, you know, I did it in a slow way. And she was basically like, okay, well, you know, you know, let's slow down a little bit because I've been through some trauma from past relationships, which I said, you know, that's very respectable.

So I gave her time. And I figured, you know, in my head, if she felt the same way that she would tell me. And if not, I'm not going to be the type of guy that tries to push her or tries to make her do something that she doesn't want to do. And then can I tell the story of the day we started officially dating? head. Yeah, I want that story. Yeah. Okay, so there is another podcaster that came to town that was visiting me.

And so right before I went to go pick her up at the airports, Charlie said, hey, Doc, I think we should start dating. But wait, okay, okay. Wait, wait, wait, but I need to know something because I don't know, like, what you do with other podcasters. Like, was this podcaster coming into town for you to fuck them?

I mean, not necessarily But you thought But maybe I want to know who the podcaster is Was it Venus cuckled dress? Yeah Yes Oh yeah

Like that was going to be hard to figure out Was it Venus? No, that was just a guess I think she's really pretty Yeah Wait so, okay So wait a second No no I wait wait

I just got to clear this up To let people know what the fuck's going on Because you guys are in the know and nobody else is. You're saying that you're like on your way to like go pick a Venus cuckoldress. You guys maybe have been flirting and maybe something was on the table and you might be banging her. But you of course have this thing going on with Charlie.

And Charlie is like, oh yeah. You know what, Charlie at some level, you smelled that happening without even realizing it. He keeps telling me, okay. Let me just tell my side real quick. Okay, okay. So, okay. Okay, so we had been talking, he'd been, you know, giving me the sales, pitching stuff. And the last holdout thing was I am not, I did not want a long distance relationship. I am very

much a touch person. I don't want to have to, I'm not doing that for like a year, you know, trying to figure out if we're going to whatever. No, I'm not doing that. So I was like, if we're doing this, I'm going to, I was, I was in a position where I didn't have a rent at that, you know, in Florida. So I was like, if we're going to do this, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to consider coming out here. So do I really want to do this? Because I love Florida. And, you know, so we were, that was the final talk. So I was like, okay, I guess he's like, what, what's it going to hurt to try for like a year? You know, a year in Las Vegas.

That's, you know, I was like, you know, that's not a bad idea. So, so, and all he has told me about this person is they have a platonic relationship. They've been working together for a couple of years. And occasionally they go to things together. They've never fought. And it's totally platonic. No big deal. So I'm like, all right.

awesome I can't wait to meet her and I was like let's I'm good with you know I'm good with hanging out here for a year let's try this I think we have something here to work through and so yeah so he goes to pick her up and we just started dating right before we he picked her up from the airport but you were picking her up thinking maybe there was a chance to fuck her and because you didn't know if Charlie was like Charlie was still on the fence is that correct or no did I just add drama to something yeah no we literally said yes we are dating so So he goes to pick her up and we are technically dating. They have never fucked. He doesn't think that she's going to fuck him because they've been... Just work buddies, yeah. Yeah, work buddies. But I feel like they, I think that they were going around the possibility of fucking multiple times, but it never happened. So it's like he just assumed, I guess, that they were put on.

Yeah, from his side of the story, it sounds like he was picking her up to fucker, okay? That's what it sounds. Well, okay, okay, okay, so let's hear you know. Okay. So, okay, so when I first got into the podcasting game several years ago, she, Venus was one of the podcasts that I would listen to, right? And so I reached out to her and, you know, we, you know, sort of the friendship and, you know, business ship as well. And, you know, talking back and forth. And, you know, we would appear on each other's podcast. And so after a while, both my people and her people definitely wanted to see us, you know, wake up and fuck and whatever, right? And so when we did finally meet up in person, you know, it seems to me that she didn't want to do anything physical with me, right? Which, okay, it is what it is. Maybe she saw me in person and was like, oh, this guy is a troll, right?

Yeah, you're horrible. You're horrible. Yeah. So at that point, you know, we, I think we went to different events like two, a total two or three times. And so, you know, nothing happened with that. And so I just said, okay, well, hey, it is what it is. So when she came the time when the day that me and Charlie officially started dating, I didn't expect anything different, you know.

And so I was telling Charlie this and Charlie is like, oh, bullshit, bullshit. And I mean, yeah, we, me and her did end up fucking that time that she came out to Vegas. Oh. But I didn't know it was going to happen. I wasn't expecting that. But let me ask you this. You told Fun Charlie, right? Oh, I went in the room.

Oh, oh, my God. I forgot what kind of podcast I have. Yeah. Yeah, we actually went to a cut party. Yeah, Charlie was fucking another guy and I was fucking Venus. Oh, yeah. And we were at a cut party. And so what happened was Venus said, hey, Doug, I want one of your famous sensual massages.

Yeah. So at that point, I was like, okay, you know what time it is. Yeah. Yeah. We know what that leads to. And then Charlie was fucking another guy. Yeah. And then Charlie was fucking another guy.

They had this big old huge cocaine dick. Hey, I was going to just watch and have fun. and he talked me into it. He was a good sales guy too. Okay, so but... Yeah, go on. She got the guy with the biggest, hugest dick in the room in the house.

Oh, my God. Now, did you like watching her fuck that guy? Like, I mean, because this is all very new for you guys. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I caught glimpses, but I mean, I was a little bit more focused on Venus. Yeah.

Okay, so let me ask you this, because you're, like, this is like, you know, you're not like living together yet. Like you said, maybe there's no, it's not you're like madly and love yet, right? Like, this is very much early on in your relationship. You just started. It's the greatest, like, first date or first day of your relationship story ever, really. I mean, I love that whole story. But, you know, you did say that you did, you know, both of you guys, even though you're both

in the lifestyle and you're professionals, you did have to navigate some bumps in the road. Like, I'd love to hear, like, how things progress. and like the kinds of things that you guys faced that were like maybe difficult in how you got through it. Absolutely. Who wants to go? What was the question? Okay.

The question is like, you did say, well, it's like the question is so, you know, once you start, like, what was the first thing that came up for you that was an issue? I would assume, and maybe this should be the first question, I would assume now that you're living there, you guys are dating, you're in a relationship. Like, everything's on the table, considering the first day you get there, you guys, you're fucking a cocan dick and he's fucking Venus and you guys are loving it. So there's like no boundaries or rules, right? Like, I don't know. You tell me. Yeah, no. We totally, I would say he, I would say that he assumed that if your lifestyle, you're full 100%.

And we, and I assumed, I think we both assumed we, we didn't think about what level each of us were at. So as far as like when we when you get into a relationship, it's like, okay, what are you comfortable with? What am I comfortable with? I think we both assumed that it would just work itself out or something. Yeah. Because we didn't like say, hey, this is what I'm comfortable with. So that was a big. No, listen to how you guys started out.

You start out in a four-some. Yeah. It's just like, you know. Couple swap. Yeah. So, so the, so yeah. So I would say for me, the biggest things. Okay.

So when you're in the lifestyle, most of the. guys are not the pull. You know, it's not, the women are the most attractive, usually. If a guy is fit, he probably is in a little bit more demand, but the woman is usually the, the one that's, you know, with the full inbox and stuff. But with Doc, you've got the content creator and the lifestyle, and he's very in demand on both sides. So that was definitely a, learning curve because I'm not used to being with someone who's getting hit up constantly. I mean, women are, you know, hitting them up from all over the world to get fucked by him. So that was like, oh, okay, so this is how this is all going to go.

All right. And so that, I would say the women and how they treat, because there definitely has been a lot, it's been very clear that there were a lot of women that had him in their view. as someone that they were interested in. Not just sexually. Like they did just want to fuck them. They wanted to be you. They wanted your position.

But they wanted to be you. Yes. Yes. And some of them have made it very clear that they are upset that I'm in this position. So that has been a little bit of a rough, you know, a rough thing to deal with. But otherwise, it's been pretty good, like crazy good. Like we've had some insane experiences and we keep upping it and just when we think we're like, this is as fun as it gets, it gets more fun.

So it's like constant, it's just constant learning and figuring things out, I'd say. Together. And that's the difference between being solo, right? Like that sort of teammate kind of experiencing things together is what takes it to the next level than being a single person. Oh, man. The intimacy, I mean, that first cut, that cuck party was our first lifestyle situation. And at the end of the night, when we were both done fucking, I was like, I grabbed him. I was like, I got to fuck you.

And we went into the back and I took his load and it was fucking hot as shit. And we were just like, this is going to be so fun. Like, we, we was like, this is the beginning to some fucking amazing times. The load was hot as shit or me fucking backwards was hot as shit? He sex was hot. The load was normal. Wait, so Dr. Chalka, she had, wait, but listen, Dr. Chalka, she had a little issues with a lot of women, you know, wanting to date you. You're obviously like somebody that people had on their radar, right?

Because you must be a good catch in the lifestyle, right? A guy that wants a relationship, but also to be in the relationship. Because I think a lot of guys might want to just be single in the lifestyle, but you were a guy that want a relationship. A lot of women wanted to be Charlie. Did you have any issues with her on her end? Like, did you ever face any kind of jealousies or did you ever feel like, oh, I want to like create about you or was everything fine on your end? So, so this is a point where Charlie and I have always disagreed.

I, yeah, there's a lot of women that have come at me, but most of them, I'd say 99, 98% of them, just want the sexual pleasure. Yeah. You know, not necessarily to be in a relationship, you know. So I feel like Charlie feels that a higher percentage of them wanted to be in a relationship. You might be projecting Charlie. You might be projecting Charlie. You think everyone wants him the way you want him. Possibly.

Possibly. I'm willing to say that it's a possibility. But I also know guys just don't see the things that women see. Yeah. So it's just subtle things. And it's not anything crazy. easy and it's you know it's nothing like diabolical or anything but it's definitely there and just you know just because he can't see it doesn't mean that you know but it's it's it's really a non it's an

issue but it's a non-issue at first it was an issue because I was so overwhelmed but it's I've gotten a lot more used to it and it's easier to deal with it and how would you navigate through it would you just like you know talk to him about it yeah we've talked it out and I I've, you know, I had, I had to do some deep diving into my own shit and figure out what is my shit and what is actually coming from the outside and how I'm dealing with that. But the closer him and I get, it's, that's, okay, so that is one of the biggest tricky things. So for the, in the beginning, even the first six months, even, even the first year, we just hit like a huge changing point in our, communication and stuff and everything's been like even better but the first year of our relationship you're trying to create trust in a team team situation and you don't have that in the beginning so

everything feels like a threat you know it's like you i don't i don't even know if i can trust this guy yet you know it's like of course trust is earned well trust is earned it's not just given to anybody exactly exactly that's a normal thing you don't fucking know him at the end of the day yeah exactly And I've had some really bad experiences. So it's like, it's going to be a little harder. Yeah. Exactly. But then once he showed me that I absolutely could trust him, it's been a ton easier.

That's like huge. So it's just, and I, I tell people who are dating in the lifestyle all the time. If you have tried something, don't stop trying stuff. Like we've had to, like our communication, different things. Like even when we go to a club, the way we pick up people has. change because we were so frustrated in the beginning that he's like, why can't you just find somebody that you want to fuck and then we'll go fuck them? And I'm like, it's not that easy. Guys are not as good looking as women in the lifestyle. And it is tricky trying to find a four way, you know,

and on top of that, I actually have to be possibly into the woman too, because if she's by, not all by women want to be with all by women. And so it's just like, there's so many things to navigate. So yeah, it's gotten a lot easier. The more, the closer, the closer, the closer, the closer or we get and the more of a team, it feels like we are, it gets so much easier. Did you have that thing where when you did fall in love that you felt a little bit jealous or had different kinds of feelings or was it because you were learning to trust him through that whole time and living with him and whatever, that that didn't sort of happen with you guys?

Oh, no, I get jealous. I would say a lot. It's tricky because it's long. So there's one example that I use all the time. Amy, is it Coticorn? I never know how to say it. C-A unicorn girl. Yeah, C-A unicorn girl.

So she is somebody who I should have absolutely been very jealous of. She was until, until like around the time Doc and I met, she was super single. She's actually the female version of Doc. She is awesome in the lifestyle. She's the biggest slut. She's freaking amazing. She parties. She's the sweetest person, but in all aspects, I should have been horribly jealous of her because she's like one of the, she fits all of docs, you know, boxes.

But the way she was with me and the way she treated me was so good and with so much respect that I have never felt any inklings of jealousy with her. So it does matter how the woman treats me on whether I, whether it turns, it's going to be fun or is it going to be inxy? And I, it's hard for me to share him with women that aren't respectful to me, you know? So it's like, it's a, it's such a complicated thing. There are so many things that women do. They're never going to let the guy see. They're only going to do it to me. And so it's like, I need you to believe me so that we can, you know, navigate this together.

And really what the point is, though, whatever it is. and whatever comes up and whatever you're saying to him, like for you, Doc Chocolate, like you, and I'm assuming, because she stays with you, she has nothing but sings your, you know, she's just singing your praises that, like, you just take it in and when she brings these things to you, even though maybe you think she's crazy and she's reading into shit that's not there, like, you have to listen to her.

Like, that's the key to, like, making this relationship work in this kind of environment, correct? Correct, 100%. Like, what would you say to guys? Like, what your girl comes to you? and the jealousy comes up and all this kind of stuff. You know, how do you navigate it? Like, what's your advice on how to work through it when your partner,

when your girl does come to you and she is jealous? Like, how do you work through that with Charlie? Like, what's your advice to guys to work through with her jealous girl? So what I would tell other guys is to, yes, definitely listen to your woman. And even if you don't quite, from a logical standpoint, understand what's going on. or comprehend, just give her that time and that forum to just explain herself and just listen to her and empathize with her.

And even if you think that she's completely wrong, just give her that time and give her the benefit of the doubt as well. Because sometimes you just might not understand. I mean, men and women are really like different people. people, right? Like we are from Mars and, you know, different fucking planets, you know? So, and I think it's the same thing like you have to understand him in certain ways that maybe don't make sense, too. It goes both ways. Oh, for sure. And I think maybe Doc, you're so great at communicating because maybe you don't personalize it or get defensive. I think that's what you can't do.

Yeah, yeah, correct, correct. And, and I won't lie, I have gotten very defensive. That's what I want. I want to hear the truth. Yeah, talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, good, bad, or ugly, Kathy? Yeah, I like that. No, that's real life. Yeah, that's real life. Yeah. Talk about that. Yeah. So, basically, my defensiveness has arisen just because I don't like to feel like I'm being forced into doing something or I just don't like being forced.

And so at times I thought Charlie was forcing me or trying to. to force me into killing relationships that I had with women. Because of her jealousy. Yeah. Well, you know how, you know, when you're a woman and you're talking to a guy and they just want to fix things. But all you're wanting to do is be heard and vent. That has been one of the biggest things.

Because as soon as I tell him something that I've noticed or whatever, he immediately wants to fix it and thinks that I'm like, you need to get rid of this lady, you know, or whatever. But it's just, I just need to talk about it and vent a little and maybe get some, some feedback from you on how to handle it, you know. Yeah, maybe some encouragement or like, you know, something. Exactly. So that you don't feel that way. And like, you can deal with a lot of things nonverbally without doing, you know, without

saying anything. As a couple, you can, you know, fix things without major things. and that's a lot of the, I think that's the biggest communication breakthrough is like, before I even start, I tell him, hey, I just need a vent. I don't need you to fix this. I don't need, you know, I don't need you to do anything. I just need to be listen and maybe give me your opinion on what, you know, what this is. Because I'm not always right, but I'm very, I think women are just in general sensitive and they pay attention. And guys don't necessarily always see the subtle things.

And, it's happening in the subtle thing. Yeah, but what's probably happening in this kind of situation if there was like a camera on your wall is like, you're probably saying it in a way that,

like I feel like both people, it's just a communication like problem with between men and women because women communicate differently than men. So you're sort of probably phrasing it in a way that puts him on the defensive. And then his defensiveness is coming to you with that that's not what you want.

So maybe it's like, you know, when you come to him with these problems, maybe like ask him more questions and make it seem accusing. Because sometimes, like, I think guys take it the wrong way. But it's because we say it the wrong way. Like, you know, it's just, it's, that's like,

and this is just like shit that would happen in a vanilla relationship. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I highly, nonviolent communication is freaking amazing. And that if you are having trouble communicating, if you've ever been into, in a traumatic relationship, and you get a little point-fingery, look into non-violet. violent communication. It is amazing and it has helped us a lot. Right. Because then you don't put the guy on

the defensive, right? Especially a guy like Doc Chocolate who like, you know, you could tell he's just like a fucking nice guy. You know what I mean? He's probably like, none of the things that are happening, it's not anything he's doing, right? It's like these other people, but somehow he takes it maybe personally by the way you phrase it, right? Exactly. Absolutely. For sure. For sure. And so there's really no problems between the two of you. Now we're actually really, like, everything works very well. And it just, it had a lot to do with our communication and how we,

how I was coming at him or to him. And we've worked through so much of that stuff. So it's everything is getting like, every time we work through something else, it's like, hell yeah. This is, you know,

it just keeps getting more fun and less stressful. And so, yeah. So, okay, so do you plan, like, do either one of you ever,

like, want to get married again? Are you engaged? Do you want to announce it on your show? Yeah. If we ever do, we will announce it on your show. Okay. Yeah.

I feel like we both are like, ugh, but, you know. Where are we going to say that? Yeah, yeah. I like that. We will announce it on the Hackey Cicillian anonymous podcast. I feel personally like it's not a, hey, this is a must that must happen. eventually, you know, because I could go the rest of my life and not be married. Yeah.

But if it was something where, let's say, we have conversations about it or if, you know, Charlie really, really wanted to get married, I definitely would not be opposed to it. I've been burned way more on marriage, so I'd be a harder sell. But I honestly, I think I'd be, because the longer we're together and the more are businesses and stuff intertwine, I would be more apt to do something, some kind of contract, business contracts, than marriage contracts. Yeah, well, it is, by the way, a marriage contract. Be honest.

I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, it is. It is. Yeah, so there you go. And, and I mean, I feel like if something were to happen to me, like, let's say I die or a comatose or something like that, there needs to be a proper way for me to make sure that,

you know, she gets, Charlie gets what she, definitely deserves. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Yeah, those are the other things you think about, you know, some things are important. But listen, you guys, thank you so much for talking about and being so open about your relationship. I think, like, talking about your relationship within the lifestyle can help others. I wanted to, that's why I wanted to bring you guys on. I love how honest and open you birth were. I love your fucking first meetup story with Venus cuckold dress. That's a little gossip. Oh, my God. We love you, Venus.

Oh, my God. That's so funny. Why don't you both give your shoutouts to whatever you want to promote, okay, real quick, and then I'll put links in the description. Nice. All right. Miss Charlie, you go first. Thank you. You can find everything about me on funcharley.com.

Your website. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to put your website there. And you can find me being a male slut whore. at Dr. Chocolatefans.com. Dotchofilandfans.com. You can see my videos, and you can listen to my podcast,

The Bulls and the Queens, and you can go ahead and schedule a central massage or a gang bang for your wife, all on DocChicloatfans.com. Yeah, and if you want to know about those, just I have episodes on them, okay? Google Doc Chocolate and Spotify, and you'll find his episodes

where the people have talked about it and he's explained what goes down and you're going to want to fucking book him. but I will put your link, send me both a link for you guys, send me some picks for my Patreon. Thank you guys so much for calling in. You already have free access to my Discord right, but you'll get it when you get off of this. There's a best boob contest going on right there. I've had the biggest dick.

I've had a dick pick contest. I had an ass contest. Now we're having a titty contest. Let me tell you, I was like, oh my God, my listeners have the biggest dicks ever. I never saw so many big dicks in my life. And now you see the boobs coming in. There's like 250 already, and I've only been running the thing for like two months. Didn't you vote?

Didn't you actually, you were a judge, Doc Chocolate, right? For one of my contest? Yes. Oh, the pussy-pick contest. On the prettiest pussy picture contest. Why did that not surprise you? Remember how many terrible pictures there were? Yes, there were.

But I had so much fun doing that with you, Kathy. And I remember one lady, I think she came in second or third. I think she came in second. It was silver mixes Yeah, yeah, you knew her. Yes, I knew her. And she texted me and she was like, thank you so much for saying such good things about my pussy.

She goes like, hey, I know that pussy. Yeah, I remember that pussy. Oh, my God. Well, let me just tell you if anyone joined my Discord that all those picks are still there and our episode talking about is still there. It was so fucking funny. But anyway, thank you guys.

Thank you so much for calling in. This was super fun. Thank you for much. You are awesome. Send me your stuff, okay, ASAP. And go get Descript. I'll send you the link. Bye.

Okay. Awesome. Bye. Bye, you guys. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback

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