Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1313 - Mrs. P is in a Stag/Vixen Marriage

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

Mrs. P is now in a Stag/Vixen marriage and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when she met her current husband and what both of their past relationships were like, how her hubby coached her into getting in touch with her fantasies, their first visit to swinger club and exactly what went down including her hooking up with a woman and attempting a couple swap, how and why she wasn’t into couple swapping at all but why she did it anyway, how and when both her and her husband became educated on compersion and the stag and vixen dynamic and how that changed the game for them, why she considers herself fluid vs. bi, the first guy she hooked up with for her first vixen experience, the first two guy experience she had that included a dvp and why she enjoyed it so much, her shibari experience, how her husband loves taking naughty pics of her and how it helped herself esteem plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics ANGELICA plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠https://vb.health⁠ — To get 10% off DRIVE Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Holiday Sale PLUS $50 off! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you use my code 37712, you're going to get a free trial to check it out. That's cc.com. Use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on Mrs. P. I'm obsessed with her. I'm also very obsessed with her guy, and you're going to be. He needs to come on the show because he's pretty amazing how he rolls. You're going to hear all about it. Mrs. P. and her husband got into the lifestyle like 10 years ago, I think. They were married before each other. She was always vanilla. He had dabbled in the lifestyle before her. And now they're in the lifestyle and they're like stagged vixen. They're into the hot wifing thing. They've been to swinger clubs. They've done couple swaps. And, everything that you could imagine. You're going to be obsessed with her husband. He's super interesting. The way he got her into the lifestyle is like a very fascinating part of this episode. She said he quote unquote coached her into

having fantasies and she explains and gets detailed about that whole coaching experience and it's super interesting to hear how he did it, how he coached her into figuring out what she was into. And then they wind up at their first swinger club and then everything is hardcore after that. You've had a lot of experiences. Our whole story has so many layers to it. You're going to love it. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Mrs. P. P. P. for Passion Fruit. Hi, Mrs. P. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I am doing well. How are you? Now listen, with a name like Mrs. P and considering you're coming on my show, I have to be like, are you a hot wife that's into water sports? No. No, because you are. No. No. No.

It is for passion fruit. Oh, Mrs. Passion Fruit. Mrs. P. Short for Mrs. Passion Fruit. Yeah. Okay, I like it. So listen, that's a short story, though. You're not into any kind of pee play,

but you are into hotwifing. Your guy, your husband got you into it, right? He did. Okay. Okay. Well, all right. Now, let's get a snapshot of where you guys are at, how long you've been married for,

Tell me how long you've been hot wafing for your guy. Oh, my goodness. So we are now 15 years into our marriage. Okay. We started off, I'm going to say a good 10 years ago. Hot wiving? No, we started hot wifing about, I'm going to say about five years ago. Okay.

What started 10 years ago? We, in the life, what they're calling the lifestyle, right? Okay, good. So that was a progression. So you guys opened up your relationship 10 years ago. Correct. Oh, okay. Married 15 years. Now, is this the first marriage for the both of you or second or third or third? No, no, no. It is my third, his second. Okay. Well, let me just tell you, the more you got under your belt, the better you're at it. That's what I always typically hear. The better you get at it. A lot of times second, third time's a charm. Okay. Hey, that's a least that's what I said. Third time's a charm. Yeah. My picker was off for a little. long time. Let's just put it that way. It's okay. I happen to be like the opposite of you. I'm like a non-relationship person, but I'm always slightly obsessed with somebody that would be married three

times. Just keep going back at it. Like I love, I love like crazy relationship people. Like you just don't give up. I admire that. You know, you like to be in, you know, you like to have a partner. Just you didn't work without the other two. Now you got one that it's really working with. How did you guys meet each other, by the way, 15 years ago? Well, it was a business. It was a business meeting. a business colleague wanted me to meet him. And that's how we met. And it was a horrible, horrible first meeting, I have to tell you. But in his defense, he had just gotten off of a red eye from Chicago from a business meeting that was stressful.

And here some strange lady is walking into his office where his business colleague had told him he had to meet. And he was just not in his finest moment. But then I told her, I said, do not ever, ever make me meet this guy again. He's not like that for real. Okay, well, don't do it. And the following day, she calls me and says, can you meet me for dinner and have a glass of wine?

I really feel bad. I want to apologize. I said, okay, sure. I'll do that. Lord and behold, I walk into the restaurants, not looking my best, by the way. And I see him sitting at the table and she stands up. Emily. Oh God, here we go. So, but as, as the conversation progressed and the third bottle of wine,

here we are 15 years later. Oh, good for your friend. She actually had a feeling. Like, if it wasn't for her being so pushy and crossing the line, you would have never, like, been with him. So I love that. No, you are right. Story. I like that story. Okay, so you start to, you guys get together. Now, before you were with him and before he was with you, did either one of you ever play in the lifestyle before, or were you all, did you guys both always have vanilla marriages? I was not. Okay. I was a very, you know, strictly vanilla monogamous, one partner kind of gal.

Okay. And he and his previous wife did dabble, you know, and he, it caught his attention and he really liked it. So it took him several, I'm going to say about three years. for us to even begin a conversation like that because I was reticely jealous. Oh, interesting. Yes, I was very upfront with them. I said, look, I'm super possessive.

I'm crazy. I get jealous very easy. And I feel you need to know that. And he said, oh, okay, well, that's great. And he said, well, I feel like we need, you know, a good relationship starts with great communication. So here's our start. And you know, we just became really good

friends. And I know that sounds really cliche, but we did. We became really good friends and he was my absolute business sounding board. He owns his own company. I own my own. And he helped me in that

respect of staying really grounded and helping me grow my business. So as the relationship have been tensified and then we got married and then a couple of years into it. He just, you know, we were traveling to, we were on a road trip and he just said, you know, we never really talk about fantasies. Let's talk about fantasies. And we're like, what? And he says, yeah, don't you have fantasies? This is about what? And he said, sexual fantasies.

I said, no. And he could not believe that I had, and I can honestly tell you, I'd never had any sexual fantasies. Sex to me was, you get me started, then we'd do it, and it was great, and get off me. Interesting. And so he's like, wow. So that intrigued him immensely. So he is like a dog with a bone. Once he has his mindset on something, he's going to get to.

the bottom of it. And before that road trip was over, he was coaching me on how to have sexual fantasies. I went like, oh, well, this is interesting. Okay, so we did that for a bit. And then one day he just said, hey, how would you feel

if we went to a sex club? And I said, what is that? So we went, and he's like, goes full throttle. This man does not do anything half-fast, any shape. And he's of the word, in any shape of the word. So we were on a business trip to Atlanta and he scoured the earth to

find out if there was a club anywhere near us. And the nearest club to us in Atlanta was called, can I tell you what it's called? Of course. Yeah. Okay. So it was called the trapeze. Yep, I've heard of that one. It was an amazing experience. Keep in mind, I had never had anything like that before in my life. Do me a favor. I'm going to stop you right there and I remember exactly where you are because I want to get the whole laydown of your first swinger club experience because that's pretty major. But I just want you said something so super interesting and it's like I'm always thinking about people listening and if there's a guy listening and you said something like, oh, you know, he taught me how to start having sexual fantasies? Like he coached me into it. Like how did he do that?

Well, it was really gentle actually. He said, well, don't you ever, you know, fantasize about, let's say, an old boyfriend or an old this. And I know, I really don't. He said, anybody, you know, a movie star, anything,

somebody you've worked with, somebody that, and I said, you know, now that you mentioned that, I've always been like a shit talker, you know. A what? Always been like a shit talker. Okay. Oh, my God, that guy is so hot. Yeah. I would do him in a minute. And, you know,

I was so full of it. I wouldn't But I would think that way, and I would voice it as a joke, but I never took it any further as, okay, so I would do it. Yeah. And then I would leave it at that. And so what he said, so what would you do? I mean, if you could, like, what would you do? And then I'd say, well, I don't know.

I mean, we're married. And he said, I know, but what if we weren't? And I said, oh, well, then that changes the dynamic. And then he said, well, then why? And I said, well, because we're not married, you know? Oh my God, I'm obsessed with your husband. I mean, like, this is the dog with the bone. Right here.

He truly is. Yeah. Yep, he truly is. And so that's how he took me down that road of coaching me on how to fantasize. And it being okay. And it being great that we talk about it. And then, you know, I started asking him, well, what do you think about? What do you?

What is it that you? are intrigued about fantasizing. And I went like, oh, my God, this guy's nuts. So he told me all of his sexual escapades, you know, when he was young, because he's 10 years old than that. Yeah. Okay. So we went back all of his, all of his sexual escapades and things.

And I'm thinking like, wow. Then I started to feel like really inadequate. Like I started to feel like I was not an experienced sexual partner. Yeah. And I went like, holy moly, well, I've never done any of that. And he said, well, why don't we try it? And this is his motto for life. Yeah.

Try it once. If you don't like it, give it some time. We'll try it again. And if you still don't like it, okay, we'll never do it. And he said, well, why don't we try it? And this is his motto for life. Yeah. Try it once.

If you don't like it, give it some time. we'll try it again. And if you still don't like it, okay, we'll never do it. Oh, I love that. So I said, okay. And then he said, and then the world wouldn't end, did it? The world didn't end. No, you're right.

First case scenario. Even if they hate it, it's not like anything's going to happen. The world didn't end. Yeah, and let me ask you this last question. Then we're going to go back to Trapeze. Like, as a woman who was always super jealous and possessive, when he started to tell you about his past experience, and his fantasies.

I'm sure they included other women. Like, did it really bother you? Or were you at the point where because he was so gentle and you guys were communicating and it was such a safe space that you were okay with that? I was okay with it. I was surprisingly okay with it. And I remember us talking about that. And it was that he did.

He did create such a safe space for me. And because he knew up front that I was like super insecure. And even though he would tell me that I had no reason to be, I would always tell him, well, you're supposed to say that. You know, and he'd say, but, you know, that's not how it works. So, yeah, he created that safe space. And so I found myself asking then, asking him more questions. Well, what did you do then? And how many chicks did you do at a time?

Wow. What happened with that? And, you know, he was pretty open. And then then when I really started bugging him about it, he'd just look at me and he'd say, oh, Jesus Christ, I don't remember. It was like 100 years ago. I said, you don't remember or you don't want to tell me? He's going like, I don't remember.

I'm like, I don't believe you. And so that's how our fantasizing conversations and coaching came about. I'm so glad that I asked because I think all of that is such an interesting, like, I think it's like a great tip for other people and like everything that you. you just said could really help other people maybe get their partner on board, whether it's a man or a woman talking, because, like, he did the almost impossible. He took a woman who was, like, very vanilla, very jealous, you know, very not, like, like I said, vanilla, never have thought of any kind of fantasies. And he got, I mean, he, like, turned you on. You know what I mean? He flipped

that light switch on that had never been on, you know, and got you to the point where now you're harassing him about his fantasies. I mean, it's like you came full circle. That's, like, amazing. And now you're out of fucking swingers club. Okay, so you walk into trapeze, paint the picture of what's going on. It was amazing. And when you walk in, people are dressed and they're dressed very nicely. They're not, they're not undressed. They're dressed very nicely.

And then you have, they have food and bar, and I'll tell you what impressed me the most, is that we took a bottle of scotch or bourbon or something. And that damn bottle followed us everywhere we went to, within that club. Like they had a sticker on it and just those little things that really impressed me. And then when you went to the back, they had these big, burly, muscular, beautiful guys out there making sure that everybody's safe and that you undress and the women can wear nice lingerie, but the men have to be undressed and they get to wear a towel. Oh, wow. And then they have all of the rooms and things. And everybody was just so kind.

And when I say gentle, as they were very respectful in the fact that I'm sure I looked like a deer in the headlights. Yeah, of course. You were an obvious newbie. Obviously. And so that was my first experience being oogled at. I didn't understand it. And then he said, look around you. there weren't very many short Latin women there.

I was probably the only one. And he said, you've got a target on your back. I'm sorry, this is how this works. I went like, oh. So we had that experience, and then that's how that kind of progressed. Then he said, hey, let's join a website. And I said, what? And I said, well, if we're going to do that, you're going to be in charge of it.

I don't even know what to do or what to look for or none of that. He says, don't worry about it. I got it. The only thing I was involved in with that was picking our name. Okay. Oh, is that where passion fruit came in? Mm-hmm. Okay.

But wait, real quick, when you went to that trapeze, you didn't do anything but look, right? Like you guys didn't have sex or you didn't hook up with any other people. You didn't do anything, correct? Oh, yeah. No, no. Let me tell you, when we tell you, we jump in the deep end, full throttle. Wait, wait, wait. You did?

He took me. Yeah. Oh my God. How do you tell that story without telling me what the fuck you did inside? Wait, so I'm thinking you just walked around as a newbie and, you know, it was nice. You actually got it on. What did you do? We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, they gave us the tour and we walked all around. And when they say the sexual tension or the sexual energy, wow, I had never felt anything like that before. And what impressed me the most is that it didn't have, you know, the sexual tension. You know, the

smell of sex. It had nothing like that. So it was nice. We went into this room and he said, well, let's, let's do something. I said, here in front of all of these people. And he said, yeah, that's what we're here for. So we got down and dirty on the floor in front of a huge, like a big room with benches all the way around and all these really nice mattresses on the floor. And he and I were there. we were doing our deed and then this couple next to us the gentleman next to us was starting to inch over and he started to reach for me and he started to caress my legs and I looked at my husband and I went like what is he doing this this is what happens right and he said you're going to be fine it's it's safe you're okay all right so we we wrapped it up we had a great time and then we start we

sat on the bench because we said, well, we're here. Let's check everything out. So we sat on the bench and there was more people doing the deed. And then this gentleman walks up to my husband and he says, is that your wife? And he said, yes. He says, my wife would like, would like to come and eat her pussy. And I lost it. I looked at him. My eyes got all wide. And my husband's going like, go ahead, nobody's going to know. He says we're in several states away from home. Nobody's going to know. And so I were like, now mind you, I had never had any,

and nonetheless a woman. Yeah, right. And so I'm looking at him and I'm holding his hand and he is like loving every minute of it. As the woman's going down on you. Yes. Yeah. So I'm looking at. him and her husband is just you know he he is in his own ecstasy there as well and you know

I I don't remember if I orgasmed or not I don't think I did and then she she just came up gave me a kiss on the forehead and thanked me and I looked at him oh my God yeah yeah so then it gets even it gets even crazier after after we have that encounter, we go and walk around some more and explore the other rooms and things. And as we were leaving, that same couple comes up to us and asks if they can join us. And I'm like, what? And my husband's like, sure. And I'm not like, what? So we're in a different state. We, I think we Uber there. We don't have our own car. And my husband's like, sure. And my husband's like, we'll go. So we went and they gave us a ride to our

our hotel. And then he asks me, are you okay if we if we just, you know, start messing around and play? And I'm like, well, we're already here. I might as well, if we're going to do this, let's do it. You know, rip the band rate off. And so, yeah, we did. And we ended that experience pretty abruptly because the gentleman, well, before he was going to get on me, he took off his condom. And my husband caught that. And then he said, you know, no, that's not going to work. So she was real embarrassed and that we just ended the evening. But that was my first experience.

That's pretty hard core. And I can't believe you just told me the story. Like we walked in, we looked around, it was so pleasant, and then what happened next is we got on a website. It's like, no, no, no, no. Like, you have a full-fledged girl going down on you, like all this stuff happened. That's like a major, first experience. It really was. And when we start looking back, I'm going like, Jesus, we don't, when we talk to folks that are in the lifestyle and we tell them all of our escapades, they think we've been in it forever that we've been doing this for a long time ago.

And like, no, that was like the first time we even had done anything. They are just cracking up because it is. It's really crazy. Yeah. So now you go on this website. What website did you guys go on? Do you know? We started off with Cassidy.

And then now we're on SDC. Oh, my favorite. My one that I always pitch. Do you like SDC? I do I do I like them both but I'll tell you why I liked Cassidy

first was because it was safe because everybody was out of state Oh okay I get it Uh huh Okay so whenever we went out of town For business We go out of state a lot of the times

We hooked up with several people From Cassidy Perfect And then on one of those events that we, that Cassidy events, we met some folks in our state. And they told us about SDC. And they told us how much more, they like it more because people were more down to earth. They just, they just seemed friendlier to them. And they could hang out in their hometown and all of that, which was quite opposite of what I wanted to do.

I didn't want anything related to home. Yeah, I get it. To be part of our, you know, extracurricular activity. And because, you know, we're both business owners here and we didn't want to, like, walk into a meeting going like, oh, I know you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I understand. But, you know, so he would take the pictures and he loves taking pictures.

When I tell you he's got thousands of pictures, he has thousands of pictures of me. Wow. And that really in itself helped with the self-esteem, helped with not being so crazy and jealous. You are you? For me. And so we tried to do the soft swap, but it just wasn't for me. And I would, you know, it's... In what sense?

Watching him with another woman? Yes. Okay, that's okay. Like, know myself. Listen, if you, that's not something that you like. It's just not something that you like. And I tried it. Yeah.

I tried it twice, as a matter of fact. Yeah. I tried it and it's just like, no, I can't. You don't like it. Yeah. I don't get the thrill that he does. He gets the thrill of watching me. me somebody else giving me pleasure.

He loves that. I want to, I don't know, I want to slap a bitch. I don't want to see it. So I tell him, I said, if it's something you really want to do, maybe we can, you can do it. We can do it. And I don't have to be in the room. And he says, no, that's not the point.

That's, if we're going to do this together, we're going to do it together. Well, that makes sense that you wound up getting into hot wife. But real quick, like how many, the two times. that you did do the soft swap was were you like just horrified like very jealous and stuff is that like what happened i tried really hard not to be yeah and i tried to be you know as respectful and kind i wasn't going to embarrass him and go all crazy on him but after you know we we did talk about it and i said it's really not for me honey i don't i don't like it yeah i don't like it at all and and we talked about how he's not possessive at all and he doesn't get

jealous. Well, let me back up. He does. And after we talked about it, he processes jealousy very different than I do. And he has an amazing ability to take jealousy to turn it into something erotic. Yeah, I love that. Smart, right? Yeah, yeah. I wish I could do it. Yeah. And I take jealousy as this is, this is mine. This is my territory. And no, you're not. not touching it. Besides seeing your, well, besides not liking seeing your guy with the woman in the situation,

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That's honest. I didn't. And really, all of this really was because I wanted to make him happy. Okay. He doesn't ask for much ever. And I feel like I'm really charmed and blessed that I felt when he never asks for anything. And so this was something that he really wanted to do. And I felt if it's going to really make him happy, come on, you can suck it up. You know what I mean? So you kept sucking it up in the beginning. I mean, I'm assuming at some point you started enjoying it, correct? I started enjoying it when, you started enjoying it when, you when we were really honest about it. And then he, we, we met, we met this gentleman in the Northeast. And he introduced us to, to a term called compersion. Yes.

And that was very intriguing. And because it didn't involve another woman. I'm going to be real candid. And when my husband was like, you know what? That's, that's exactly how I feel. And so he was really helpful in educating us about that and almost normalized it for us. And I saw the change in him. And the change in him was like, wow, there is a name to it.

I don't have to feel odd or awkward that I'm not the only one that enjoys seeing his wife, his partner, his lover being pleasureed by somebody else. And so that was a real eye-opener. And then he introduced us to the term a stag and a vixen. And we went through all of that learning process of that. And then that's when we sat down and we said, well, is that something that, is that who we are really? Because when we go to clubs, we really don't engage anymore with anybody. We already did it, did it, done that. I'm willing thrilled with it.

And it was more so for me, I'm going to, I'm going to take my clothes off for you. I'm going to at least have to like you. So there has to be some kind of conversation or some kind of, I'm not asking for a full-blown relationship, but I am asking, you know, let's get to know these people a little bit. And then I don't want to be a germaphobe, but can we figure out if, you know, how do you even ask somebody candidly, hey, do you get anything? Have you been tested? Because that was always in the back of my mind as well.

Right. And so that's where SDC kind of really helped because a lot of folks on that website are really open about, hey, we're tested. We don't do drugs. It's condom only. All of that. And, you know, he would say, look, they're really being. safe and we can do that. Right. There's full transparency there. I want to give out my code because, you know, I have been doing my show for a really long time and there's so many different

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SDC but anyway so so now that you have like a term for it and everything is that when you guys like decide to start looking specifically for that kind of experiences? Yes. Okay. That's when the magic, I like to say, that's when the magic happened. Okay, this is interesting. I like this whole little journey. It's super interesting.

And you know, what we did, what we did find is that he and I are really transparent and we're really open. And so in our experience, doing the swing. or stuff. I will play with a woman, but I don't, I don't, you know, I don't label myself as, as a bi-woman. Uh-huh. But do you enjoy it? You know, it has to be the right woman.

Yeah. It's just like anything else. Chemistry has to be there. Yeah, well, listen, wouldn't you say that about guys too? And that doesn't mean that you're not straight. I mean, it's not like you just because you're straight, you like any guy, right? That's right. So same thing with women.

That is true. And you know, and as we, I call it as I grew up. Yeah. As I grew up, we went to a party that unbeknownst to us was a party. It was a very fluid party. Uh-huh. And we named it fluid, but it really was a very bi-party. Yeah.

And I'm like, but I'm not by. And I don't think a lot of these women here are, but they say they are, but I don't get the vibe that they are. Yeah. And so we just started, I just started interviewing people like, are you really by or is it something that she? And a lot of them would say, oh, it's what we put on there. So it's everybody feels welcome. Oh, okay. Well, then why don't we call it something else?

So he and I call it fluid. Oh, I saw. If the vibe is right, the energy is good, conversation's going great. Yeah. well well and that was that was our ultimate goal he and I is that eventually when we I grew up in this that I wasn't going to care if we were going to have a good time with a man or a woman and I've been working really hard to be to be that fluid because breaking down those those barriers isn't easy and it takes work and it takes a lot of self-reflection and

talking and really talking to your partner. I can't over stress that and being really open about everything. Because I remember a couple of times that we played and on our drive home, he would be kind of silent and he'd be like kind of brooding, right? And then he'd say, well, you were there, but you weren't there. And I don't understand. And I went like, oh, it's because I call. it, I went to Tahiti.

That's your place you go to? When you want to check out. Yeah. When I want to check out. But he misinterpreted that as I went to Tahiti because that's a real central, beautiful place. So after a lot of conversation and explaining to him that going away to Tahiti for me was almost like an out of body experience.

because he would say, well, tell me about it. Tell me how it felt. Tell me what he did. Tell me what he told you. And I said, babe, I don't remember. And he said, what do you mean you don't remember? You were in Tahiti? I went to Tahiti.

And so it took several times for him to go like, come on. And then so he said, I'm going to start recording it because you had to have to remember. I was watching you, babe. You had a great time. And then he would say, your toes are curling. That's your toe. And I said, okay, but I don't remember it. Interesting.

And then we thought, maybe I'm drinking too much. So let's not drink. Okay, so we tried that. And I would go off to Tahiti until we really started doing some real deep work on what it is. And what it was is that if I'm not like 100% in it and I just want the event. to be over. But I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, whether it be who I'm messing around, playing around with, or my husband for that matter, and who matters the most to me is my husband.

Of course. And what he gets out of it. I never wanted him to be disappointed. So, well, better ways, I would just go off to Tahiti. And then when it was all done, I would snap back and, oh, thanks. That was really nice. Oh, my God. but I'm being honest with you.

So now that I'm saying it out loud to you, I'm wondering how many people do do that for real. Yeah, that's like a woman thing, right? More so than a guy thing, you know? And, you know, I hope you don't do that anymore. Did you work yourself out of going to Tahiti? Yes. That's good.

Because literally, like, what you're doing is you're doing something that you really don't want to do. Because if you really want to do it, you wouldn't be going to fucking Tahiti, you know? I think it's really nice that you're doing it. you're doing it for a guy, but at the end of the day, that's not really healthy to do long term, right? You know, it's great, though, that your story doesn't end there, you know, and it's great that you did communicate to that to your husband, and you were just in denial that that was happening.

You know what I'm saying? It's like it's really great that you were in touch with that and that your husband was digging to try to figure out what the fuck was going on so that you could work yourself out of that phase. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. And it did. We've been very open about it. And now the fun part, too, is the after.

You know, we get to talk about it and we get to joke about it and we get to laugh about it. You know, and we look back on the years that we've been embarking in this journey. And there's some that we crack up, that it was the best time ever and they were fun and they were this. And then there's some that we both look at each other. And we laugh and we know exactly who we're talking about. We're going like, we're never doing that again. Oh, my God. But wait, let's get some more experience.

When you started to get into like the whole stag vixen or hot wifing kind of situation and you're on SDC, did you start looking for guys and like, did you just let your husband pick them? I mean, maybe that's why you had to go to Tahiti because you weren't picking them for yourself. Well, you know, no, he would. I mean, he's the, he's the account administrator. He's the account manager. And then when people were directly wanting to talk to me, he would bring it to me and he'd say, okay, look, these folks really want to talk to you or this gentleman really wants to have conversation with you.

Because that's my big rule. I don't want him to speak for me. I don't want him to agree to anything without me because if the energy is wrong, man, the energy is wrong and that's not going to be a good thing. And I don't want to misrepresent us in any shape or form. So what kind of guys did you meet on there? Like, do you remember one of you, like, the first guys that you hooked up with where this is now just like an experience that you're just hooking up with a guy, right? Not a couple? Yeah, yeah.

And with that intent. Yeah. I mean, that's because that's what you guys decided that you would just get more into that than the swapping and all that other stuff, right? Unless it was a woman, correct? Yeah. I mean, and so the very first one, he was very, experienced and he he educated us on the term of a bull and what his role was and and it was my first time per se in that role with just somebody else with my husband sitting in the chair

watching drinking his berbin checking us out yeah and he was very very respectful he was awesome and and he he knew he knew how to fuck because i have to tell you not everybody not everybody in this in this lifestyle knows how to right that darn porn porn porn ruins everything yeah so he he and he he asked really great questions too you know he was but he addressed my husband a lot on his comfort level, which meant a lot to me. Because he was, even though he was not going to be participating per se right away, his concern also was his comfort level. So that said to me, here is an experience, dude.

And he was. I mean, he's, then we wanted to have a do-over with him. And he was already, I think, away for work or something. And he said, but my friend, who is probably better than I am, I've already told him about you. He's seen your pictures and he is chomping at the bit to have the opportunity. Can you believe there's this whole world that exists like this where like you meet one ball? And he's like, I got,

oh, I got this friend and he's a bull. You know what I mean? It's like this whole world. It is so crazy. It was so crazy to me. It really was. Yeah. It really was that there is that whole world.

Yeah. When they tell you that that's their lifestyle, man, they're not kidding. Yeah, that's why they call the lifestyle. So his boyfriend, did you decide to, like, because you trusted this guy and he was so experienced and he seemed pretty cool. Were you like, okay, we'll check out your friend? Yeah, yeah, we did. And we had several conversations with them and he sent us pictures. And he seemed like a really nice guy, just like his buddy said.

And we hooked up with him. And then my husband and his crazy ideas, he's kind of like, you know what I would really love? I said, what is that? And he said, if there was two of them. I was thinking. I went like, are you fucking getting me right now? And so I said, what? So that took like several months of talking it out and how is that going to work?

And you know, and then once again, porn, he had it in his head that I could take two cocks at one time. I went like, that doesn't even, that doesn't even, how does that even work? Yeah, no, I can never imagine it until someone explained exactly how it goes down. Yeah, and so he arranged it all with those two. Oh, the guy, the bull and his friend? Uh-huh. Okay. Several months later, he arranged it, and he asked if he could film it because he wanted

his own story to tell. And they agreed. They thought it was a great idea. and they did and that was a mind-blowing experience because I had never had more than one person. Yeah, what was that like for you to have two guys just like totally pleasuring you? It was incredible. Right. It was amazing.

And once it was all over, my husband licks and he said, you really like that to you. I said, yeah, I really did. But I didn't admit, which is another really interesting thing that happens to us as women. When we have been so repressed, it's even hard for us to admit to ourselves that we're enjoying it. Yeah. If that makes any sense. Of course. And if there's anything positive that I can say about this entire experience is that it has

it has healed a lot of wounds that I didn't even know existed. Interesting. Mm-hmm. And so I knew I was very insecure. I knew I had many, many years of body shaming. I knew, you know, that I always felt I was never enough, never good enough, never pretty enough, never smart enough. All that, all the stuff that a lot of women carry.

Yeah, that extra baggage. that, yeah, that somebody imposed upon us because it wasn't ours, and we just carried it. And what I love about this world is that even, not even trying, it heals you. Wow. Which is a really beautiful thing. Yeah, that's amazing. Who would think? Yeah.

Yeah, you wouldn't even think. So that was, that was an amazing experience. And we just, he just started taking more and more and more pictures and more and more pictures. And, you know, it blew up Cassidy. And then he said, oh, man, SDC is going to be great. So put us up on SDC. You put us up on another website life. Yeah.

That's another big one. Yeah, because we had met a couple on, I think, on SDC that they were a BDSM couple. And of course, my lovely man, it's going to like, ooh, that's cool in you. Why don't we do that? And we're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. So here I go, following along and more conversation. And come on, let's try it. But we're going to have to learn.

The other thing that he explored was we found a place up here in central Texas. I'll just say where we're at Central Texas in North, north central Texas. And they tied you up. What is that called? Shabari. Shabari, yeah. I've heard of that.

Yeah. Okay. So now you're taking this little bingbat vanilla chick all the way, maybe now seven years into it. We're doing, I'm doing where I find myself getting tied by this. Yeah. That was an amazing experience.

Letting go of control. That's a hard, that's a hardcore thing too, I think. Oh my gosh. Submit to, right? And safety. Yeah. I'm a total stranger. Yeah. I mean, it's all about like, you know, just allowing yourself to trust. Correct. Correct. And if I will ask him to send you pictures of that, because that, that was a really cool experience. The gentleman that did it for us, I met his wife first because I was super intrigued and she knew, she knew that we were newbies. and she came and sat and talked to us and she said, my husband's the best one here. He's the one that is taught the rest of them. And I just got done and he wants to do somebody else, but everybody's busy.

Would you like to try it? And my husband right away is like, yeah, yeah, go, go, go check it out. I'll take pictures. Amazing. And so he says, we need new pictures for the websites, babe. Come on, go. I'm like, okay, here I go. And that was, that was.

And he tied me all up and he elevated me and he spin me around. And then, but as he did, he explained and he explained the pressure points and what it would do and the euphoric feeling you will have if you've been on there for quite a while. And he knew exactly how tight to get it, how loose to get it. It was, that, that, I can tell you that I could probably do again. Interesting. That would be the do-over. And now your husband, with all these pictures and all these things, do you enjoy that as well? You know, at first, I didn't.

I didn't. It was like, oh, I don't want. And he would show him to me and I would tell him, ooh, no, not that one. And he would get so mad at me. So then what he would start doing is he would just start taking even more. And then it was like, like, you know, like a model board of 150 pictures. And he'd say, look, but out of these 150 pictures, we're only in a pick two or three.

Okay. And we went through that. And now he's got, I can't even begin to tell you how many that he has. But what really helped me was like about year 10, because I was still, believe it or not, I was still pretty insecure, even everything that we did. Yeah. And I still had that, that icky feeling of, I don't want to show my body off, you know, very much, that he did this.

whole PowerPoint and he called it through the years and he started from the very first picture he took of me all the way to that period and I just sat there in awe. I said, wow, that's me. And he said, yeah, it's you. And I said, all the variations of hair color, of hair styles, of, of, you know, the different, the progression of how. different I was dressing. You know, I was in IT before and dressed very frumpy and khaki pants and buttoned down shirts, you know what I mean? To now I have, you know, tight to the body dresses, you know, over the knee with high heels. And it was really cathartic is the only way I could describe that. That it finally gave me the courage to

to continue and to make him happy, really. So, like, right now he's got an Instagram for me. I don't manage it, but it's all the pictures he takes. And he keeps him pretty, you know, pretty PG because that's my number one rule, is to keep them PG. And he still takes pictures, lots and lots and lots of pictures. But the ones on SDC are not PG? No, the ones, no, the ones on SDC are not FG.

Yeah. But those are the ones probably that helped you even more so because you really like were seeing yourself, all of you. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah, that's amazing. First of all, I'm obsessed with your husband the way that he rolls, you know?

I mean, you've been at this for 15 years. I mean, for 10 years, right? You've been doing this. Do you enjoy the whole Stagg Vicks and Hot Wifing? thing the most? I do. You do. And what is it about that?

Like turning your guy on? Because does he sit there mostly watch? Does he ever join in? He joins in. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Most definitely.

And now that, and this is really interesting because now that we're older, we're healthier, we're fitter. We both look at each other going like, dang, we should have looked like this 10 years ago. Really? Wait, you got more fit as you got older because you started like working out or something? Yeah, we, yes, we did because we were in, we were surrounded, you know, not surrounded, but we would put ourselves in places where there are some really beautiful people or there's some folks that were going like, not today, you know what I mean?

Of course, yeah. So we just, we committed that we were going to take care of ourselves more. And so we started walking, we started going to the gym. And, you know, I'll just, I'll tell his, his, he's lost almost 60 pounds. I've lost almost 20, 20, 23 pounds. And we're older. You know, I'm 58. Uh-huh.

And he's 67. Yeah. So, and we look better now and feel better now. We've quit drinking. We don't drink as. much. However, I have always been 420 friendly. Since we've met, I introduced him into that world. And we'll partake in that maybe every once in a while. But we really do try to stay active. And that has helped a lot too. Let me ask you this. All the people around you, all your vanilla

friends, your family, like, do people, are people like, what's going on with you guys? I mean, Like, because this must be, I'm assuming this is a very secret life that you guys have. Like, nobody else knows. Oh, yeah, for sure. But are people like, what the fuck's going on with you two? Like, because you just, you know, you look better than ever. You're probably like got the sex glow about you because you're just having all this fun. Like, does anyone ever comments?

Like, has anyone noticed anything? Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. But, you know, and we have a great excuse. We have an age. Yeah, what do you say? Okay. So, so we say, you know, we've.

got to stay fit and healthy because we've got to make sure we've got longevity because we've got little man that we have to be around for. And so a lot of that too is that. And then balancing that, you know, is your real world. Yeah. And where your business owner, you have employees, you've got this and you've got the hustle and bustle of that. And then here you go. You've got a kid now, and I've got a house full of kid, dogs, and, you know, bird and axolottle and crabbed, you know, sand crabs and all kinds in life. So that's the reasoning. For family and friends that don't really see the real underlining. Yeah, they could see it's that. And listen, as somebody that had a kid way later in life, I'm like, you know, 56, I have a 10-year-old. A lot of times

I hear people talking that had kids when they were young, they'd be like, oh my God, I would never have one old, like, how do you deal and everything? Like, as someone that's not even in the lifestyle, but I feel like I am happier and younger and more alive now because of my kid, like, there is something about having a kid when you're older, that it does keep you, it just restarts your life. Like, it's opposite of what people would think if, you know, if you ask me. It's like, it doesn't make you, it doesn't make you more tired. It, like, rejuvenates you. If anything, it makes you feel younger. I feel like I just started my life, you know, 10 years ago. And I'm just beginning. And it's like,

So it's like the best thing that you could do as opposed to like what I think people sometimes think it would be like it's so hard because you're so much older and blah, blah, blah. But for me, I don't experience that. So I think it is great to have a young kid around, you know, regardless. It does. It does make a big difference. Yeah. But I mean, but for you, your difference really isn't that kid. It's all the fucking sex that you're having. And him, right?

Yeah, yeah. And your guy. I mean, I'm. So privately, privately, it's. our, it's our wonderful escapades. And it's not like that we do this all of the time either. You know what I mean? It's not like we're devoted lifestylers. This is, this is truly like one of those things if we happen to get in the mood. Yeah. Or he, he's, you know, listening to a podcast. I mean, he absolutely loves your podcast. I love that. You should invite him. You should invite him. Yeah. Yeah. I want. He's a hoot.

I think you could also, and why I want him on is because I love, like, how he got you into doing everything and how he, like, you know, he seems to be in charge of, like, this whole story a little bit. You know, he kind of took the lead. And I think that he did it, he brought you along and he did it very successfully in the right way. And so I think this story from his perspective, as well as, like, him talking about, like, the way he rolls and how he got you into it would be super interesting. For other men, because there's so many guys like him that want to get their girl into it, you know, and a lot of times they don't really know how to do it. You know, they're all jealous of your guy, but he's here to say you can do it because he did it with you, a very jealous, possessive vanilla woman, you know, and look at you 10 years later. So I think he'd be great to have on the show because he could really teach a lot. You know, he could help a lot of people. I tell him, I said, hey, if we could get into the speaking circuit. it. You know, how would we do it? You know, if we could, we would. I think it would be great because there are. And, you know, and I've listened to podcasts, not only yours, but others. We like yours

because they're a little more seedy. There's more sex than them. Yeah. But, you know, it's almost like the same story. You know, we get pulled along kicking and screaming until we, till that magic switch is flipped. Yeah. And then, and then now parties on. Yeah. But it's getting us to that magic switch.

Yeah. And a lot of women in our age range and stuff have all that shame and have their life, that doesn't have that switch on and they need help. Mm-hmm. And it's okay. So, you know, for men, for the husbands that love to take pictures of their woman,

just do it. Just take them. Even if she, even if she sounds like she's annoyed, because let me tell you, there were times when we were away, he would pack his camera. And I would, I'd be waking up and he'd say, don't move. Yeah. Oh, you can't be right now. And I have to tell you, that picture is my favorite picture of me. Interesting.

So he waking up, don't move. And he, he snucked that picture. No. I think that, and, you know, too, it's just the person that you love. This is your ride or die. This is, knows everything about you, knows everything about you. Why wouldn't you be open and communicate and try to have a great experience together? And he really got me thinking, you know, because I had.

had previous marriages, there was always that what if for me. And so when he started talking like, no, babe, I want to be able to have awesome stories that we could tell just us together, laugh about them when we sit on our front porch, on our rocking chairs in our 80s. It went like, aw. Yeah, why not? Yeah, I love that. Right.

Yeah, why not? What's so bad about that? You know, I love the people who call into my show, especially the ones who are. were here to say that like you could start this up at any time you know like younger generation are more open and they're trying a lot of new things but there's a lot of people in your age range and older that I've had on my show that like I said second third time around they're like doing all this new stuff and it's just like rejuvenating them and like why not go down you know having a good time you know in that you're you're you know the later chapters of your life who why not you know

I think I think that it's great uh you definitely need to send me some picks for my Patreon. I always say for my Patreon, you could send the PG ones. It's Discord that I could put like your Shibari ones and stuff on. You will get free access to my Discord. Your husband will run that. He'll love it in there. It's a lot of action. Yeah, he'll run that. Yeah, he'll run that. And he could post in the guest channel when your episode airs. Send me, though, some picks if you want anonymous for my Patreon, but nothing. I always say R-rated, but if you don't want to send R-rated, you could send PG-rated, but no face or anything like that. For that, like, I said you'll get the Discord link for free when we hang up.

And then I'll give you free access to my Patreon so that you can see the comments when your episode airs. And do me a favor, get your husband to use the link to book, okay? I'm going to text it to you and get off. I love your story. You know, between me, you and my audience, I'll just tell them a little secret that you were supposed to call in yesterday and you forgot. And like when you called, your husband said he was, no, it doesn't matter.

He forgot. But the whole point is that he was like, we're preparing. I'm quizzing. I don't know what he said. Like we're practicing for the interview. I'm like, please don't. It's going to be the worst interview ever. I'm like, you didn't have to practice at all.

I don't know if that you did such a good job because you did practice or not, but like you didn't have to practice because you gave me a good fucking episode. I was on your team. Like, I don't know. Why? But the thing you need, this is a gentleman that everything has to be planned, arranged, rehearsed, everything. Yeah.

Listen, he's a successful person. personality type I don't mind it you know what I mean like I get it and I like the way he rolls in every aspect it's the only thing is in this instance that great part of him that makes him successful and everywhere would have like been a detriment to your episode because you didn't have one fucking problem telling your story and it was so good and now I want him on so give him the link I'll text it to you and thanks so much mrs. p. for calling in I loved your whole story it was super interesting and very layered I loved it and next next time I hear you I would I am just super curious on what was it, what was that pivotal moment that you said, hey, I'm going to be, I'm going to create a podcast.

Oh, go listen. No, no, no. Oh, go listen to my 500 episode. I tell the whole story. 500. Yeah, Kathy, heck. It's called Kathy had a threesome. It gives you my whole life story.

It tells you the whole story of how I started my show. It's very interesting. So you'll like it. 500. Awesome. Okay. I will do that. All right.

You're the best. Thanks for calling. and this was super fun talking to you. Thanks. Bye. We'll talk soon. Bye. Okay.

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I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse Letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book. access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your

purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. Did you come here looking to hear some super hot stories? Well, then I know where you can tune in and read a ton more hot stories, and that is in my book. Strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers. It's finally out. It's available anywhere where you buy books.

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