Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1318 - Becoming a Dominatrix, Flirting, Crazy Sex Facts and More w/ Nadege

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

Nadege called in to talk all about becoming a dominatrix, flirt styles, crazy sex facts and more. Tune in to hear all the details including how and why she studied sex in college, how her sex life was less then ideal and what changed the game for her, how and why she decided to become a dominatrix and how that journey changed her sex life, how and why she labels herself ambi-amorous and what that means, how to flirt properly and  why knowing your flirt style is important, the different flirt styles that exist, her flirt quiz, a few crazy sex facts you probably didn’t know and more. You can find her here: https://www.pleasurescience.com GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics ANGELICA plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠ — To get 10% off DRIVE Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Holiday Sale PLUS $50 off! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay. Today I have on Nadash. Nadas is super smart. She is a sex scholar and trust me, you know, at first I was like, what is a sex scholar? I mean, she studied sex at Berkeley. She knows what she's talking about. She's super smart. She's super curious. And she is a girl that started to study sex because she wasn't like having good sex. And then she completely changed the game by not only studying sex, but by becoming a dominatrix. Now, this all sounds like a crazy story, but when you hear her tell it, it's not that crazy. It is a journey she took. She talks all about her journey in the beginning. That's how we start off the

episode. You hear all about, you know, the bad sex she was having and the story about how she became a dominatrix through studying sex at Berkeley is super interesting. And then she talks about how that changed the game for her. She talks a little bit about how she rolls when it comes to relationships in her own life. And then we talk a lot about flirting. That's a big topic. She talks about so many different things. She writes articles. She's got a podcast called Pleasure. science podcast. She has so many different things she talks about. On this episode, towards the end, we start talking a lot about flirting and the art of flirting. It's kind of like love languages, but it's flirting languages. It's like the way people flirt. And she explains all those styles.

Towards the end, we talk a little bit about some crazy sex facts because she knows everything when it comes to sex. But like I said, she's got her own podcast and her own YouTube channel. I'll put links to everything in the description, but it's a fun conversation. She's super cool. She's like I said super smart So I'm gonna get right to it and be right back on with Nadash Hi Nadge Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast How are you today? I'm so good

Thank you for having me No thank you for giving me a tutorial on how to say your name Correctly because I was really worried I'd get it wrong Because it's spelled N-A-D-E-G-E It's a French name You are a sex scholar, you're a best-selling author You're the founder of pleasure science. I really have this feeling. I saw somewhere, and I'll ask you this question later. I don't

want you to get into it now, but that you, like, were a dominatrix or tried being a dominatrix or you're currently a dominatrix. I don't know if that's a real thing, but I feel like I saw that somewhere, so I'm going to have questions about that. It is a real thing, and I can't wait to answer those questions. Okay, so I want like your whole backstory, because you look really young to me. I saw you have like a, you know, you're also a content creator, right? You have your own podcast, right? It's called a pleasure science podcast. You also, And that's also on YouTube. I loved YouTube.

I was on YouTube. I had like 57,000 followers and they fucking deleted me. I like had PTSD for being on there. But I loved when I was on there. I loved I had a whole separate audience on there. And I did really well, you know, because the same people that'll find you on a podcast won't find you. Like, you know, there's a very different audience, you know, some people that are on YouTube.

They're not people that listen to podcasts. So it's a great place to be. But I want like your whole backstory. Because like I said, you look super young, but you are a sex scholar. And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? What does like, you know, how do you bring science and pleasure together? Like, I don't know where you want to start. Maybe like how and why you became a sex scholar. Because I know that it's an interesting story about like issues you had. Like it was a part of like your journey. And you were like someone who didn't like sex, right? Like it was like the opposite of who you are now, right? Absolutely. And so, well, I grew up like I couldn't wait to have sex. Right. And I definitely had sex on the brain a lot, which was something that already right at the gate, I was like, oh, I'm doing sex wrong. because girls are not, we're supposed to be more demure. Oh, that's so funny because you actually liked it?

Because you actually want to think of it over there. I was obsessed with, I thought about it all the time and I like, I, well, actually now I know humans start masturbating around two years old, but of course I don't know that as a young person. So I was also thinking to myself, okay, I touched myself a lot. I really like thinking about this. Yeah. But then fast forward to me being 19 and I'm having sex with a boy for the first time and it's

painful and it sucks and like he was sweet, you know? Like it wasn't his fault. We were both fumbling through this experience and I was super nervous. I wasn't wet. I didn't know anything. My sex such, I went to a Catholic high school so I knew nothing. And no offense, but I have to say

for someone who was so curious about sex, you waited a long time to lose your virginity. I did. I did. I was the last of my friend group and it's so, it's funny you say that because I work with a lot of people now who feel like they're late bloomers, like maybe they came out of the closet and are like bisexual or gay in their 50s. And me at 19 years old growing up in Los Angeles in a very fast-paced town where most of my friends

actually had sex for the first time at 12, 13 and 14. Oh my God. And so I felt like a late bloomer. Yeah. I actually, so it's funny you pick up on that. I don't get, people don't pick up on that. Well, because I'm going to tell you this. I talk to a lot of, I've been doing a lot more expert people on my show.

I used to only just talk to regular people about their thing, but I started the sexual health Saturdays thing. So now I'm having a lot of sex experts on and sexologists and, you know, psychologists and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, I'm not like I didn't, I'm not like a sex scholar either, but I work in this business and this is what I've been doing for the past 10 years. And I do notice that people who talk about sex for a living tend to be like, like, they all have that story of I was always super curious about it. So I was just like, oh, that's kind of interesting that you were that curious, super young, but waited to 19. So I'm just comparing you to my slid and I was very socially awkward.

The reason, and you know, it's funny because it's actually a reason I became an expert in flirtation. I was so socially awkward. Oh, okay. You did not believe. And my friends actually, I don't know if anybody or your listeners is familiar with the American version of the office and the character Steve Corell played. Okay, so my friends told me like when I was younger, that was who I was. I'm basically like him, this kind of buffoon and, you know, outspoken, putting your foot in your mouth. And so I think a big part of the reason why I was a late bloomer, at least in the context of my social circle, was because I was really not suave and very socially awkward, which I think a lot of us can relate to because that's how most of us actually feel when it boils down to it.

Totally. And so, but that was so it was this combination of I finally start having. sex. It's painful and not having orgasms. Add on top of that, I'm socially awkward and I just want to figure out how to be, like, it's super basic and selfish and simple. How do I be the hot girl? I just want to feel like a hot girl. And that's what started the sex scholar journey, which was 15 years ago back in 2012. And I transferred to UC Berkeley. And I was a junior because when you transfer from a community college to a four-year university. You start as a junior. And I had to write a research paper. When I arrived, they were like, listen, if you are starting as a junior,

you need to be starting your big research paper that you complete in a few years. And I was like, oh, and I'm on the spot. I'm in the counselor's office. And they're like, what do you want to declare? And I'm sitting there thinking, what can I study for two to three years and not get bored? And then I hear myself say, sex. And that's how that began. And that was an option, like, school? I didn't even know that. So I was in the gender women studies department. Okay. And so in that department, I had to, I had to study something that would relate to women, gender. And of course, sex is inherently related to women and gender. And so, yeah, it was an option. My advisor, her name is Juan Maria Rodriguez. She also studies porn and racism and Latin culture and history. And so

she was actually my advisor while I was doing my research. So it was very much like an academic pursuit of sexiness and fun, but it was real. Like it was, you know, and I ended up studying pornography myself. I watched BDSM porn get made. I watched mainstream porn get made. And what I was looking at is all of these porn stars, I mean, the consent and communication you wouldn't believe. It's like incredible across the board. And then the porn that gets made, how do we convey that to the audience. And there's a big disconnect between the incredible sex work that happens and then what the audience sees and perceives and learns from it. But that also isn't the fault of sex work or pornography. That's really the fault of sex being considered this shameful thing that we refuse to

talk about. Oh, I could talk about that for an hour. That's kind of like, you just said a lot right there. I, yes. Welcome to the sex scholar brain. Yeah, I like it. This is why I never left. I just stumbled in. I feel like my calling found me and I found it and it was a beautiful way to make love to my life. Like that's what it feels like when I do this work. It feels like I'm making love to my own life. And I feel like we should all try to find a way to feel like that. Quick question though, because as you're studying and I still want to like you to remember

where you're at in your story, like are you still having bad sex? Was it just like that first bad sex the first time? No, I don't remember. No, I'm glad you asked. No, I was having bad sex for years. I couldn't orgasm. And so then I started studying sex, and that was when things got better. And actually, what specifically changed was halfway through studying sex at Berkeley,

I had an opportunity to train to be a dominatrix, like you read online. And that changed my life because I learned sexual communication. So while you're studying, is this a part of like your studying? Does this actually? No, this is this is off campus. Yeah, this is extracurricular. Nadegh went on a side quest on her academic journey. No, a reason why I found it was because at Berkeley,

you can enroll in student-led student-run classes. And there was a famous class that had been created in the 90s, all about sexuality and womanhood and gender. And one week of that class, each week is devoted to a different theme, and one week was Kink and BDSM. And so we went on a field trip together as a class of like 30, you know, women and non-binary people. But no men actually were enrolled in my class. There are men who do enroll in it, but in my cohort there weren't.

Okay. But we went as this big group and we went to a BDSM club. Wow. And I instantly felt at home. And I felt so sick because like I said, there's 30 of us. We did like a takeover. But the community could not have been more warm. And it's funny because they're all like.

these steampunk leather, you know. Well, that's what I was going to say, like, were you guys walked in there in, like, your school clothes and they were all, like, decked out so that they know who the, you know, people watching were, or did you go in costume? You know, I don't know. We went dressed appropriately. So one of the beautiful things about this class and a reason why it stood the test of two decades and is still a class you can take at Berkeley is because they really not only take you

into communities, but they show you how to show up respectfully. I love that. So it was sort of like if you go on this field trip, like you wear all black or leather, you don't laugh or gawk, you don't take photos. So it was great. And so we went dressed appropriately.

We looked like we belonged, but we also looked like we were a leather dyke sorority or something showing up to the function. But I love that because, wait, I just have to say that's no different than if you go to court, you got to wear a fucking suit, right? Just to be respectful of that environment.

So it's the same thing. in that way and I love that mentality. That's like brilliant. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. No, this class is incredible. It used to be called fend sex when I was at Berkeley, which stood for female sexuality. And now it's called gen sex, which stands for gender and sexuality, which I think was a great way to evolve the mission of what that, you know, whole class does. Yeah. So it's incredible. But no, and that's how I found so to answer your question, how does one dominatrix and sex scholar all at the same time? So I'm at this BDSM club And that's when it sort of hits me

I want to explore this and like the way that I tend to approach everything as I'm A very, I mean Hence the scholar I'm a very in my brain type of person so I was like I will learn this like a skill And that's how I'll explore Which I'm glad I did because I think that led to me Being able to explore it

Safely But I sought out mentorship And I started learning how to train to be a dominatrix In San Francisco And then again that continued and we can, I know you said you had questions about that later, but that was at the time back in my like early 20s, I'm 35 now, and back then learning to be a dominatrix, learning how to communicate about sex and negotiate and also just safety and consent and what's

your fantasy? What's your dream for your sex life? You know, that really changed everything for me which it got me thinking, well, what's my dream for my sex life? You know, it's bliss. and its connection. And it's, for me, I love that deep psychic connection you can have with the lover and different. So it got me thinking about my life that I wanted to create for myself. And it also really showed me how a lot of the pain I was experiencing or a lot of the bad people I was attracting at that time.

A lot of that had to do with lack of boundaries and communication. So becoming a dominatrix helped you. It helped me so much the same, if not more, as learning the science of your. your body, the science of sex, psychology of relationships. It was so cool to be learning both at the same time. It felt like I had learned knowledge and activity knowledge. I read it in a book and then I go after hours and try it in real life. It was a really incredible experience those few years.

And it really helped change the bad sex to great sex. So that was what changed things around. So that's when you started enjoying sex. Now, did you have to remain the dominant in the bedroom to enjoy it? or just did that act of just learning to speak up for yourself or maybe just have like, you know, learn everything that you did learn. Did that sort of then you could just go and and be a switch or be anyone in the bedroom and enjoy it?

Yeah, absolutely. I went in, you know, it's funny because I wasn't aware of it. You realize in hindsight these things. But when I look back, I chose the becoming a dominatrix route because being the dominant person in the bedroom felt like safety, you know. Yeah, and control. And control. And so that made me as like a petite woman who's aware that I'm young and knew it. You know, it's like that made me feel safe, even in exploration. But then as I started exploring

sex and BDSM in my personal life and it started to be something that felt joyous and good, I definitely surrendered more and lean way more submissive. And it's interesting because there's studies that actually show if you're someone who likes responsibility, you probably love being a BDSM submissive because it's a way to balance it out. I definitely find that to be true for me personally because I run pleasure science and, you know, I write books. I have a team that I manage. So, you know, mama's being dominant. But then also in the bedroom, that's when I'm like, okay, that's when I want to balance it out and have someone else step up and that feels really natural and great. But I couldn't have gotten there without

feeling safe. Yeah. And I needed to know how to be dominant. And honestly, learning to be a dominatrix was about accessing my dominance and my masculinity because we all have masculinity and femininity. Yeah, for sure. And so that experience, I think it really, it really did balance it out. And it's something that's interesting because I see a lot of days women will be like, I need to access my femininity. I need to go to this retreat and this divine feminine. And that's important. But I think a huge piece that's missing is women aren't connecting to their masculinity in a way that exists outside of manness and patriarchy. And then the same for men. They're not really like leaning into their femininity at all. They tend to do the same thing. Like I'm going to learn how to be more masculine,

which again is important. But we're kind of off balance in this way too. And when I think of what empowered me, it's like, oh, I didn't even realize, but I was like empowering my masculinity. Which is great. But there's such a stigma against those things, both for men and women, be more masculine or more feminine, you know, in a way. I know I was always a very alpha, loudmouthed girl that had a lot of like, quote unquote, guy like characteristics that would people, like, you know, and people look down on me because of that, right? Like you're less womenly because you're the fucking alpha or whatever. I was like, I'm sorry, I'm born this way. As a fellow alpha, I relate. Can't help it. I mean, listen, you wrote a book called sex astrology.

I could tell you if I told you my astroids. So you obviously know about astrology. If I told you my astrology, you know, fucking why. And, you know, and I believe in that stuff. So whatever, like, what can you do? But I get why so many people do have to turn those parts, whether you're a man or a woman, that they veer so far away from, something that is inside of all of us. We all have both sides. Like you said, it's true. And it's so interesting that, like you said, you sort of tapping into that and, you know, helped you be more moderate and become, like, who you were. And that was, like, the key to, like, sort of helping you enjoy sex, which makes sense. Oh, yeah. You know, absolutely. Yeah. And I also want to say that took years. Yeah. So anybody listening, it's like, you know, I started studying

sex in 2012 and that was when I really was able to kind of feel sovereign and autonomous enough to like take on my healing journey. And then I would say like, you know, it was maybe 2016, 2017, like four or five years later that I actually started really consistently having amazing sex and also meeting better people, vetting people better, just the, it's, it. It took some time and it took consistent effort. And there were beautiful good times in those healing years. But it takes time too. You know, it's like, I feel like that's the other important piece of just like really

empowering yourself because it's more than just healing. I feel like we talk a lot about the healing journey. But the healing journey is like an empowerment journey, you know? And I love that language because it can feel sometimes a little more fun than like I'm in my healing era, which I can also love. but I love I'm in my empowerment era too you know yeah that's what it was and listen I think that you know I always say things like it's not like the movies you know sometimes the movies and people watch them they think like things do happen miraculously overnight like that's how change comes but it really doesn't it and it takes time but when you look back so many years later whether it's three years or five years or whatever that journey took it's so worth it and it doesn't feel that long once you're on the other side of it right but you're completely you became a completely different person but you're this sex scholar right you're this sex scholar right you're wrote some books. Did you, how long were you dominatrix for?

And, oh, no, you know what question I have for you? Like, just, maybe I don't know if this is too personal, but like, in your relationships, once you were, like, really open, having great sex, were you, like, a non-monogamous person? Did you go to, like, did you keep going to the BDSM clubs and doing all that stuff? Or do you have monogamous relationships? Like, how do you roll? Yeah, I, so I'm what is called ambiamerous.

Oh, I've never heard that. the bisexual of relationship styles. Okay. So there's monogamous people and polyamorous people if we want to kind of simplify relationship styles in a sense. Yeah. And an ambiomrous person is someone who's happy in either style, open or closed relationship. I like that.

Yeah. So I have been in monogamous relationships and I've been in polyamorous relationships. And right now I'm single. And so my whole frame of mind right now is I'm very open. what you see is what you get. You know, you're dating a sex scholar. I go to sex parties and I want a partner who is excited to go to those with me. And I think for me personally in the stage of life I'm in, I'm in a relationship with my business.

And I'm in a relationship with, you know, my family and friends that I love so much. So the relationship I'm looking for now just in terms of time and bandwidth is going to look more monogamish. Yeah. I have a partner that I'm with and we're kind of building this life together. But we go to sex parties. and you know when we travel we have fun we have three sums but we have each other as our first priority you know and the relationship and the love is our first priority that's kind of what I'm looking for right now because one it's so possible I think people should really know you should decide into your relationship

you can create any type of reality that you want with the person or people you love and that's the reality I want to create for myself but but it's important to like I'm glad you asked that question it's good to like name these things and talk about these things and really decide into your relationship style and know what you're looking for because then you can manifest it for yourself. Yeah, I'm always like like look at it like you're going through a drive-through. Like if you give 10 different orders to the universe, it doesn't know what the fuck to send you. You know what I mean? Like you know those girls that are like, oh, I want a boyfriend. But you know if someone comes along and they just want to fuck me like I'll just like fuck them and have booty calls for a little while. But like I'm really, it's like, well, no, like you're saying so it's so confusing. I don't know what you're ordering here. You know what I'm saying? Like you got to be clear. I think the clearer you are, the more likely you're going to get some, you know, what you want, right? I mean, that's how I always feel like when I meet somebody or when I'm ready for a relationship. It's because that's what I fucking want. And any other time I haven't been in one, it's because I don't want it. You know what I mean?

Like, it's like, yeah. You told me before we started taping that you were coming to New York, I have to recommend top floor as a sex club for you to go to. Have you heard of top floor? Do you know what I haven't heard of top floor? It's very like VIP exclusive. Maybe I'll try and hook you up so you could get him for free because it. It's kind of expensive, but they like, it's really high end. It's really private.

It's run by people who have been on my show. I'll send you, like, their website and everything. Like, you have to actually talk to people. They vet people a lot. It's very, I love that. Yeah. We have some communities like that here that I'm a part of and those are, I love those type of things, especially the vetting is important when you're thinking of a sex possible party

or a sex positive community. Like, that vetting is really, it's really important and it's very, it's a good thing to do. And you're allowed to. create like exclusive spaces because I know in Los Angeles that we have a lot of parties like that and communities like that but we also have communities that are closed and sex positive but they're like black only or trans only and it reminds me of like it's so good and important to have these sex possible places and also to say like this is for this is who we're centering and celebrating in this space exactly especially if it's like folks who don't usually get celebrated in mainstream

media like it's so I'm here for it send them my way I'm so game. And I also want to say something. You mentioned something earlier about, you know, at the drive-thru and you want to order and you want to be clear. I do want to say, I am someone who believes that it is possible and okay to enjoy casual sex while still working for sacred partnership. Oh, okay. Yeah. And that sometimes it actually creates the right kind of momentum in your life and it allows you to learn lessons quicker to make you ready for that dream person.

and that it sometimes can be true that, like, you are struggling with shiny object syndrome and you need to take a step back from dating or sex and focus. Sometimes that is the medicine. But isn't that being more clear? Like, I know that, like, I have had many successful booty calls. Like, I, and I learn from all of them. And it's all data and all of my bad relationships only served to help me to become better for the times that I was ready for the real thing. But I think sometimes isn't that about being clear that maybe you want a relationship, but maybe you need a little bit more practice like doing non-relationships before you get to that

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that place? I don't know. It can be true in some instances, but I think a lot of the time like we forget that it's sex is healthy so your body is going to have urges and things like skin hunger and like deprivation from affection and sex. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. And so it's like this kind of balance. And what I always like to tell people when I'm coaching them and it's and we're going through this very thing. Yeah. Is when it comes to dating and casual sex, you need to know your why and you need to be aware that your why can shift quickly. So you could go through a phase of, you know, I want to focus on finding the love and the

partner and then maybe six months goes by and you're feeling. some skin hunger and it's starting to just not feel healthy. It might be time to like enjoy some casual fun and maybe until something clicks and it could click like a month later and you're like actually close in the muffin shop. Let me go back to focusing. And so I think it's also about being in tune with your body and recognizing that this narrative that we need to focus but focusing means not being sexual that can dip into unhealthy and patriarchal ideas of purity that like isn't real.

Oh yeah. You know? And so it's like, but it is, it's like a healthy give and take. And so the best advice I give is you need to know your why and check in with yourself often and check in with yourself like maybe once a month like, oh, do I, do I want to, you know, keep like do I need, want, desire a little casual sex? Should I see? You know, and also trust your journey because if something isn't aligned for you, then it

also won't hold you back or stay in your path for two weeks. long. Like, you know. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, but it's, oh, you had said that. And I, and it's always important for me to say because I think that's a thing, you know.

No, but I, I think I said it wrong because I, listen, I have, I'm very rarely in long-term relationships, but I always have a, like, I am never without a guy that's banging me out. Okay. Like, I have never been without that in my life. So I am pro booty calls. I know how to do them properly and do them well and do them successfully. And I never deny myself sex ever. I don't need to be in a relationship.

I was never that person, you know? So, yeah, I think maybe I said it wrong, but I love what you're saying. And it is very important to make that statement. And I'm glad that you said it because I said it wrong. Yeah. Well, even if you said it wrong, I think you said what so many people think and feel. Yeah. I'm glad you said it.

Because, like, totally. And it's, but yes, heck yes, to booty calls. You made me actually excited about my booty call. So I love it. Very important. Okay. So, all right. So you were the dominatrix.

Now you're enjoying sex. You're a sex scholar. You set up like pleasure, science. Like what's the science in your, like how do you bring science and pleasure together? Is that just because you studied it? Is that where that science comes in to play? Yeah. It's really, I'm always still studying.

Yeah. And fact checking and confirming and keeping, you know, my heart on the pulse of what's new in the science of sex and science of pleasure and neuroscience and everything. And so I'm constantly going to conferences. Last year, I was the scholar in residence at the biggest sex library in the world. It's called the Carter Johnson Library. So I'm actively still doing research and sharing what I know with everybody. Right?

Like that's why I write my books, why I have my podcast. And I, you know, speak at events all around the world. I actually, like you said, I'm going to be in New York City. I'm going to be speaking potentially at the Museum of Sex. Oh, that's really close. about that. Yeah, that's really close to where I live. But yes, I'm constantly, constantly doing the research and all, and just sharing it with folks. Like, that's the content creation. And really, like, pleasure science was designed so I could be like, hey, guys, like, here's a credible

place where you can read about things that really affect you, but you know that it's being vetted and that I'm also talking to experts, you know, and have been doing this for 15 years and we'll be doing it for probably ever, because sex is my middle name. But, but yeah, you know, it's, And pleasure science is really here to change how you love and feel loved and give you what you need, whether it's science or resources or exercises, to help you achieve that for yourself. Because desire, your desire did not happen on accident. It's this compass that is guiding you towards your North Star and the thing that keeps you alive, like your life purpose, what you're here to do, create, love, and be. So desire is a really intelligent thing. and we need to reclaim it after 12,000 years of patriarchy and, you know, all the, all the stuff we're dealing with that we've inherited.

But that's sort of how it all kind of grew and continues to grow. Yeah, I love that. And I know that you said recently, like a big topic that you're talking about is flirtation, right? And flirting and the art of flirting. Is that what it's about? And I was like, oh, I would find that interesting because, like, right now, like, you know, I could learn how to flirt again. I've been with a 10-year-old at home for the past 10 years, you know. Totally. Well, you know, like I was saying, I was so socially awkward, like painfully so when I was younger, that as I got older and had access to like, okay, now I research this stuff. I know how to do this for a living. I'm like, okay, let me figure out what is going on with flirting. Because I had this experience of when I really click with someone, I can be magnetic and fun. But that happens like 5% of the time. And the other 95% I just feel embarrassed or foolish or anxious.

and nervous, right? And so I started learning flirtation and I found out some really interesting stuff that I now teach and share with folks. And one of the biggest things that I found is everybody thinks that they're bad at flirting, but it's because you don't know your flirt style. There's 10 ways that humans flirt with each other. And everybody has a dominant and supporting style. We can be any variation of all 10. I actually have a quiz that people could take. You could go to pleasure science.com slash flirt and in three questions you'll learn your flirt style but the cool thing is every of all the 10 everybody can and does fluctuate between them because at the end of the day they're all different types of human behaviors that we use to get connection from others but you will always have a

dominant and supporting flirt style that is the way that you tend to reach out to people and mine for better or worse was what's called the conference flirt, which actually has less to do with confidence and more to do with your reckless and bold. Oh, how funny. And so when I was sharing how everyone said, oh, you're like Michael Scott from the office. Yeah, yeah. It's because he was a very reckless and bold person.

And so learning that for me was game changing because I was like, oh, when I, and this was actually, before I even get into that, the other piece of scholarship that was fascinating is humans flirt for two different reasons. We either flirt for connection or we flirt for entertainment. Yeah. So there is important. Yeah. And it is important because sometimes like I'll talk to people all the time.

Maybe they're in my DMs or maybe they're a client and they'll be like, oh, I was talking. We were hitting it off and like she didn't get my phone number or he didn't get my, you know. I know. And it's like, well, maybe it was entertainment. And like that wasn't personal. And it like it actually boosts like your brain. It's healthy for you. when you have a flirtatious encounter,

you get all of these good hormones and happy chemicals going through your brain because humans are social creatures. We need socialization, right? And so flirting for entertainment, it's a very subconscious thing. It could literally be at Starbucks and you and the barista have like a,

you know, it's like, but it just gives you this boost of good life force energy and boost of good hormones. And so flirting is healthy for you. And then, of course, we also flirt for connection. which is the other piece of why it's great to know your flirt style because then you know how you and your lover or lovers or your soulmate or whomever, you now know how you try to connect with that person and how they try to connect with you. You can spot social cues of like desire and affection more easily.

And maybe if there's disconnection. And exactly. Exactly. And exactly. So it's, um, so that was what really got. I was just like, wow, this is really when I. And again, it's like, you know, it comes from. this selfish place of I just want to be able to like meet cute people feel good about it you know like go home call it a day it's a simple life I want you know but but flirting we all people all think that they're bad at it and you know I teach a workshop live and it's called the art of flirtation and the first thing I do with people is an anonymous exercise where people actually admit how flirting makes them feel and it's so fascinating because every single time I've done this workshop

everybody as they're reading the anonymous answers are just seeing themselves reflected over and over of I feel nervous, I feel anxious, I feel foolish, I don't like it, I hate flirting. And it opens up everybody's heart because everybody realized that they're all just worried about the same thing. And we all want the same thing. And it's so fascinating. And so, you know, that's why I really love this particular science of flirtation because the truth is everybody is good at flirting you just need to know what your flirt style is and then when you know your flirt style you know what locations what social settings to best put you in because some flirt styles are non-verbal so maybe going to a concert or a comedy show ah that's great for you but then other flirt styles are very playful and verbal and so maybe

for them it's like oh if you're at a house party that's where you'll meet you. that's where you, because you can talk. Right. You know? And so it's really, because that's the other thing I think people don't realize. It's like with flirting, are you setting yourself up for success based on your social skills? Yeah, no, that makes sense. And these 10 different ones, can you give them out of like what they are?

Oh, absolutely. It's just there's 10 of them. So, you know. No, I want to hear them. I want to try and figure out which one I am. Yeah. I love it. Let's go for it.

Yeah. So, well, I'll start with the two flirt styles that we see most represented in media. So in the media, the reason why people think that they're a bad flirt is because out of all 10 flirt styles, only two are the ones that you ever see represented. And that is a confident flirt and they are chasing the mysterious flirt. And it's very straightforward. I don't think I even need to explain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's why most of us, because if you think about it that way, wow, 80% of people now suddenly. are bad flirts because they've never seen the way that they flirt represented in the media.

But the confident flirt is someone like I mentioned before who's kind of bold and reckless. If they're charming, I mean, listen, watch out because that's a great flirt right there, but that's a very small percentage of the population. Right. And most people who are confident flirts are actually more like me and Michael Scott where we'll fumble over and be like, hey.

And it might be weird. But it takes some cough, but it makes sense that that's confident because it does take balls to sort of know that you're a fumbler and you still don't fucking care. You don't know what I mean? Yep. That's bold. Absolutely. So we have the confident flirt.

And there again, the marker for that is you're going to go for it. You're going to go up. You're going to be bold. The mysterious flirt, this is one of our nonverbal flirts. This is someone who they really like ambiguity and mystery. So a mysterious flirt is going to instantly get turned off. If you are like, are like, let's go on a date. and I have a plan and I like you.

The mysterious flirt almost wants you to like slowly approach and be like, you know, oh, what's your name? Like, let's like keep taking it slow and and keeping things, again, just a little mysterious. They like don't want to be able to predict what's going to happen next and that's really exciting for them. And they tend to be someone who's nonverbal and kind of it's very observant as well. But that is the mysterious flirt. Another flirt style that we have that's very talkative and verbal is the kind of. complimentary flirt. This is someone who, when you like someone, you're going to be like,

I love your sweater. I love your jacket. And the confident flirt can sometimes struggle because people won't know you're flirting. And compliments actually are a conversation closer. Yeah, totally. Yeah, it's something that you feel uncomfortable. Yeah. Well, not only does, can it make you feel uncomfortable because people aren't good at receiving compliments, it doesn't create conversation. Like if you think about it this way, if I'm like, oh, Kathy, I love your hair and you're going to be like, thank you. Yeah. Right. You're right. And there we go. Yeah. And conversation over. Yeah. And so, but so if you're a complimentary flirt and you're like, oh, that's me. What I really recommend is trying to talk about hobbies or things you have in common. Like, oh, you love running.

So do I. What are your favorite shoes? Like, like, I could tell your body's athletic. Like, good for you. What are your favorite shoes? Right. You're complimenting them. But you, that is not where the conversation ends. And it really helps to find a mutual interest or hobby because then you can really keep up conversation. But that's the complimentary flirt. Another one is the subtle flirt. And this is another one where people can't really tell that you're flirting with them.

The subtle flirt is someone who is an acts of service person and they're usually pretty nonverbal. And so this is why it can be difficult because there's the lack of talking. But then sometimes they can be really sweet and surprising because they'll get you flowers. They'll do a thing, you know? So this is someone who you really want to look out

for their actions. And if you're a subtle flirt, try to communicate to someone in some way, like break the ice and tell them that you think they're cute. Like, you do need to do something. And one thing I always like to share with the subtle flirts or anybody who relates to this is studies actually show it takes 30 nonverbal cues for two humans to realize

you're interested in each other. So for example, you go to a bar, you make eye contact, and then you see each other again. Maybe you walk 30 times of that, and then maybe you two will realize. And so this is why, regardless of your flirt style, but especially if you're nonverbal, you just need to go up and say hello. Right. And I don't care what your flirt style is.

Everyone always asks me, how do you approach people? How do you do that? You walk up to them and you say hi. And if you feel really brave, you say, hey, I think you're cute. What's your name? Oh, my God. You know, like the confident flirt can do that. But maybe the subtle flirt, you just go up and say, hi.

Can I buy you a drink? You know, can I? Like, but you do have to go up and do something. And if you're someone who's better behind a screen, you're not great at in person. Maybe you have social anxiety. Then, again, you know that about yourself, set yourself up for success. Maybe follow them on Instagram and shoot them a DM later, you know? And you can, and I always love the advice, name it to tame it.

You can shoot a DM and say, hey, it's always so awkward to connect at these like big parties or, you know, things like that. I'm a little better behind a screen, but it was cool to meet you. What did you think? Right? Like, boom, we just named it. So now it's out in the open. And now you can be yourself, right?

And so with someone who's like a subtle flirt, maybe you're better behind a screen or you're more nonverbal. Again, it's just about like, say it one time, let someone know the intention and that's really helpful. Is there a style that's more typical to men and one that is more typical to like that more women have? Like, I don't know if you could break it up like that. I haven't seen that yet.

I do get asked that question, but because there are 10 flirt styles and people tend to have two as like a dominant and a supporting, I just think there are so many flirt styles that those kind of gender trends haven't made big enough marks to be noticeable. And also I'd say a lot of women are confident flirts and don't realize it. Like I talk to, I work with a lot of couples in my private practice as a sex coach. And I see a lot of the times where the woman is like, I pursued him. I went after him.

I said, we're doing this now. And it's like, okay, cool. Like, there's, you know, so I, it's, and I actually see a lot of men who are not confident flirts, which isn't a bad thing. But it's just to say that it's not in their nature to approach or pursue. I think a lot more men than we would think can be, you know, subtle flirts or mysterious or these other, other styles that I'll get into. But yeah, so I haven't seen a specific trend in terms of gender, but gender and

romantic comedy and gender roles would have you lead to believe that men are supposed to be the confident flirt. But actually, I mean, so many women are. And that's good news, ladies, because it means all you need to do is walk up and be like, hi. No, and not only that, I got some of the hottest guys when I was younger because I was a more confident flirt, but it was probably like alcohol induced, you know, because I was like, oh, he's healthy. And I, but I was, I was, I was, you're an alcohol flirt. Yeah, I'm sober now for like 25 years. But like, you know, so I was, but I was someone that would like approach a guy and hit on guys all the time and just go after whoever I saw across the bar that I wanted. And so I got so many hot guys that were like the quiet, shy type that would

yeah. And people would think, oh, he's like rude or he's like stuck up. And it's like, no, like he just never was going to hit on someone because it's not his style, right? But he was like the hottest guy in the bar. So it's like you're missing out if you're not sort of being the comfort sometimes because there are a lot of like hot people out there, whether it's probably men or women that are not going to be that person. right but if you're that person you could get that person you are and you know what like if it if it if it flaps it's really not the end of the world but when it doesn't flop you get to have an amazing because i'm the same i will go up to anyone and i have had the best times with some of the sexiest people

and it's simply because i just had the nerve to go over and say hi yeah totally and it's also really affirming because then you think like i've definitely had this experience where i'm like man this person is out of my league but i'm going to go up and say hi and then we end up having like a great night together or maybe we go on a few dates or we try something out and and then getting the experience of like whoa they thought I was hot they didn't even think I was out of their league you know I if I hadn't gone up and done that I would have held myself back and believed the story about my own beauty that isn't true no exactly that's what I'm saying it's like you know yeah so yeah it's it's it's very true it is and so um the other flirt styles that we have the next two are really fun

we have the playful flirt and the teasing flirt and both of these are quite similar but there's one distinct difference so both of these flirt styles they really are playful they love to make jokes they want to make you laugh so these are both very talkative flirt styles yeah the difference between the teasing and the playful is the teasing is a little bit mean so this is the person who kind of is you know gives like and but it's it doesn't have to be a bad thing because again this is someone's natural flirt style, but this is someone who, you know, maybe has a little bit of a punch to their joke. And so you need to have a little bit of a thicker skin with that.

I like those kind of people. I like that. Totally. Totally. But it's not, it's not for everybody, you know. And so with teasing flirt styles, I always say, like, you know, don't change who you are. Just change who you are around because your flirt style is going to be right. Yeah.

Your flirt style is going to be right for the right person and you're not meant to change who you are. And it is a flirt style. Listen, people like sadism and massac. are emotional masochists abound. You know? But no, so those are two really fun flirt styles. And speaking of mine, my two, so it's the confident and the playful. Those are the two that I am.

So it's like I'll go up to someone and then I'll desperately, again, Michael Scott just desperately try to make them laugh. Now I know how to do it in a way that's charming. But growing up, I was like, my friends would call me a social hand grenade. Oh my God, hilarious. Yeah, to give you, you know. But again, it's why I became an expert in flirting because I didn't want, I didn't want that to follow me around my whole life.

But after those two flirt styles, we have the polite flirt. This is another one. This one reminds me a lot of the subtle flirt style, except this one is more verbal and asks questions. But a polite flirt style, they'll open the door for you. They'll drive you to your destination. So there are also acts of service people, and there are also people who, like, it's hard to tell that you're flirting.

Like other people are not picking up on the fact that you're flirting with them. So this is another one where it's like just speak up, say, I think you're cute. Can I buy you a drink? Or, you know, do you want to go to coffee? Can I get your phone number? And I would also say, you know, oftentimes I notice a lot of people won't ask for phone numbers anymore, but they'll ask for like Instagram and DMs and things. If you do really like someone and you want them to, you know, pick up on the fact that you're

flirting with them, getting a phone number is a great way to do that, just throwing that out there. but after the sincere flirt or sorry the polite flirt we have the sincere flirt which is also similar to the polite flirt but this is someone who again it's hard most people don't know you're flirting with them or you are that you're flirting and a sincere flirt is someone who really asks deep sincere questions so this is the type of person where flirting is tell me your trauma who hurt you I want to know the deep stuff I want to go really you know for thinking astrology it's giving water signs Yeah, I get it. But yeah, that's a sincere flirt is someone who's going to really ask a lot of questions and friendship is just a really beautiful form of flirtation. And then

finally we have the traditional flirt. The traditional flirt is an interesting one because this actually, it sounds like it would have to do with someone's religion or cultural background, but it really doesn't. A traditional flirt is someone who really likes structure. And so their

courtship style is going to follow a more rigid expectation or tradition. And so this can look like someone who's like, okay, I like you. I get your phone number. And then we go to dinner. And then we go to another dinner. You know, after three dinners, then I ask you to be your girlfriend. You know, it's like I have, this is what, this is what people do.

It's like they're these very structured people. And so with traditional flirts, the pitfall I see often with this one is this is someone who's going to be like, oh, she doesn't like me because, you know, she, didn't want to go to dinner on our first date. Yeah. I know people like that. Yeah. I know people like that too. And it's like, no, this person has been flirting with you for weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because that's the way they see it. Oh yeah. Yeah. And so it has and a lot of people think, oh, you know, I grew up Catholic, so I must be a or, you know, I grew up and this is my cultural background. It actually doesn't really have to do

with your background. It really has to do more with like personality. And again, like there are people who just really like that structure, they find meaning in it, they relate to it. And then there's this assumption that like, ah, well, that's just how things are. And that isn't true. But then again, what's cool about a traditional flirt is if you're on the receiving end of that, I love traditional flirts because I'm like, I know what is going on. And you are planning and you're taking control. Like, I like this. This is nice. So it can be a really, like that's one where people do tend to know that you're flirting with them. And that's quite nice. And I think I have covered every single one.

And people could go though on your website, right? Like even people that are together already, right? Because like it's flirting something that you should always be doing in relationships to keep it fresh, right? I call it flirt with forever. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. And so like people could go on and take that quiz, right, and find out what they each are. And it's three questions.

That's it? Three questions. That's all I need to know. Yeah, you just go to pleasure science.com slash flirt. And yeah. And then you answer three questions. and then you'll see what your dominant style is, but I also break down each style.

And so you can kind of see and into it and read and get a little info like, okay, that flirt. Like maybe I go to this type of location. But especially for couples, it's great because you could be like, ah, this can explain like why I'm missing his cues or this can explain like why we're so compatible about this, but maybe we can work on, you know,

because it is like there is such a thing as the flirt style compatibility. And I like, luckily, because people often, when we're flirting and courting and falling in love, we do mirror each other. So we often do end up finding our compatible flirt partner rather naturally. And this quiz can just help you figure out like, oh, maybe this is why that disconnect happened or, ah, this is how he's flirted. Like now, especially so many of the people who are more nonverbal acts of service. Yeah, for sure.

Where it's like, oh, I didn't even, you know, I got so used to him always like driving us everywhere that I forgot that like, you know, maybe I should open up to like, oh, this is flirtate. This is the way he's showing my thing. It's like love languages too. It's like important. It is. It is. Very much so.

And not even just in the beginning of relationships because you could have everything else going. But like if these little things are there's a little disconnect because these styles are a little bit off, just knowing them and doing something a little bit different could completely change the game. Yep. Totally. Yeah.

I love that. I know, you know, listen, I want it. And I don't know if you could do it. asked, but, like, you did say something, I think it was on your YouTube channel. I saw you said, you like, you know, you wrote a lot of articles. One of the most, like, downloaded ones was one about, like, crazy facts. And I'm like, what crazy sex facts? Can you just give me, like, the top three quick crazy sex facts, you know, or you came across and you read about? Can we end with that? From that specific article, well, well, I will definitely say, so that's episode one of the pleasure science podcast.

Okay, so everyone should definitely go listen. Yeah. Yeah, to the long version. and to get down into the fun nitty gritty. But oh my gosh, some of the coolest and craziest facts on sex. I mean, one is the average clitoris is four inches long and it gets an erection just like a penis, which is awesome. We love that for the clitoris. Interesting. Another one, oh, sperm has a sense of smell.

Yeah, and you have to watch the episode. Sperm can smell. And there's one scent in particular. that sperm really likes and you can listen to that. Oh my God, I'm obsessed. I need to know. Okay, go on. Let me think of one other. These are good. These are going to make people go listen to the episode, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And another fun fact, this is a more recent one that won't be in that episode specifically. Some dragonflies have two penises. Really? Yep, nature. Nature is fascinating. And I hope he gets

That's great sex, the two-penest dragonfly. Yeah, I like stuff like that. All the best to you, sir. I remember hearing once that an orgasm, the closest thing to an orgasm is like a sneeze. Yes. Right? Oh, yes. Yeah, which I'm like, oh, those kind of things are so interesting to me.

I actually, I love that you said that because that is one of the facts in that episode. Oh, really? Your nose has a rectile tissue. And you do have orgasm. That's why. That's why sneezing feels so good. They are actually a type of orgasm. Your body has over 20 different ways that it can orgasm.

Oh, my God. Oh, I could like, then we could start talking about armpits all of a sudden because I'm like, I used to go down on people's armpits. I'm like, it's so fucking hot. Like, go down on the armpit. Yeah, that's one of the places. Yeah, it is. Right.

For you can have an orgasm. Yeah. People always said I was gross. I was like, no way. Have someone go down on your armpit. Okay, don't put on deodorant because it tastes fucking gross. But like it's no different than them going down on your pussy. I feel so good.

Oh, yeah. Right. It's so good. No, I remember I had a partner who loved to, to lick my armpit. Yeah. First time I, and it literally, I mean, life before and after completely changed. Like, let me tell you.

It was when I was like, I was like, you've got to be kidding me. It feels that good. Like, oh, you know, so totally. I'm so here for it. And I love you. You are so good because you just capture all the little things in my mind. So I love it. Yeah, well, you'll maybe have to come back on.

We'll talk about all the pleasure points on the body next time we talk. But I'm so happy that you came on these kinds of facts are. fascinating to me. I'm a very curious person as well, so I get why, you know, listen, I'm not as curious as you. I didn't go to school for all this stuff, but I love that you did. And I could, like, listen to your facts all day long because it's super interesting to me. We didn't even get to your sex astrology book, you know, which is interesting too. So, you know, we'll talk again, but like, just give a shout out to all your stuff so, like, people could find the quiz and all the stuff that you offer people in your podcast. And then I'll put links to everything for people that

are driving, you know. Absolutely. Well, you can find me at Pleasure Science on Instagram and TikTok and YouTube. You could find the Pleasure Science podcast on YouTube and Apple and Spotify. You can go to PleasureScience.com slash flirt to discover your flirt style. And please follow me on Instagram and TikTok if you like social media. Shoot me a DM. I always read them. Not always right away, but I do go through them. And I love hearing from folks because the reason I created Pleasure Science, was so you could learn. So I want to know what you are curious about too. But that is where you could find me. Just pleasure science and I will come up. I love it. All right.

Send me those links or whatever you want me to put in the show notes with your episode and like a pick that I could put maybe on my Patreon. You know, that would be great. And thanks so much for calling in. And I'll definitely have you back on. This was like super interesting. Absolutely. Anytime.

All right. Thanks. Naja. Right. No, did I say it right? Nadege. Oh, see, I got a fucking wrong. It was too long since you schooled me.

Nadaj, thank you so much, Nadaj, for calling in. Okay, bye, Nadash. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th. but you can pre-order it.

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