Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1326 - Sandra on Swinging with her Husband and Becoming an Adult Travel Promoter

Episode Date: January 4, 2026

Sandra called in to talk all about swinging with her husband and how she became an adult travel promoter. Tune in to hear all the details including how and why she brought up the idea having a FFM thr...eesome early on in her relationship with her husband, the couple they wound up meeting and what exactly went down between her and the wife, how and why they started swinging while traveling, the rules they had when starting out and why they worked for them, how and why she started sleeping with guys in front of her husband, their first full time swap and what exactly went down, how she really loves hooking up with women and seeing her husband enjoy many women as well, the all girl gangbang she took part in and what exactly went down, why she calls her husband the “anaconda” and why its hard for her to find guys she’s really into, how they work through the jealousy that occasionally comes up, how and why she started her company Seduction Travel, what people think goes down at lifestyle resorts/cruises and what really goes down, the most popular lifestyle resorts and what each them is known best for, which one is best for women who are into gangbangs, single folks etc, resorts around the world that she has been to and what goes down there, how and why she’s so good at helping people find the right lifestyle/cruise resort for them and how she guides them plus a whole lot more. REPEAT, originally aired 02/23 You can find more info here: https://seductiontravel.com GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Use the code STRICTLY at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://motorbunny.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Holiday Sale PLUS $50 off! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:28 The last thing I'm going to tell you about is SDC.SDC.com is like the world's largest adult online dating site. And what's great about SDC is it's only good to go on there and meet other couples. It's a great place to find out about all the events and the clubs and the parties going down in your neighborhood or wherever you're traveling.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Now, listen, I could give you a free trial to SDC. All you got to do is use my code 37712. That's 377. went to or just go to the description and click on the link. Now, today I have on Sandra. She's a hot Brazilian woman who has been in the lifestyle from for a long time with her husband. And she really likes girls, Sandra. So they started bringing girls in. And then he was like, wanted to see her with a guy. And then they did that. And, you know, then they got like hardcore into the lifestyle. They have been around the world. They travel everywhere. They literally went on like their honeymoon to all the
Starting point is 00:03:29 lifestyle places and all the countries that they visited. She talks about a hot New Year's Eve cruise. She went on in Brazil. Now, the interesting thing about Sandra, besides her interesting backstory of her in the lifestyle and all the things her and her husband have done, she owns a travel agency that caters to people in the lifestyle. Company is called seduction travel. It's a website where you could go and you could get access to every lifestyle resort and crews around. She also has on that website information of lifestyle websites where you could sign up to meet
Starting point is 00:04:11 like-minded couples. She is that middle person. If you want information on which crews to go and where to go, she has it all in one place. And then she's also available to talk to you. and help guide you to the right thing for you and your budget and what you're looking for. She's been there, done that. Like I said, we talk about the hot cruise in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:04:32 She's been to hedonism. She was like, oh, hedonism is good for people who like gangbangs. I was like, oh, like, this bitch knows what's going down because she's been there, done that. She does give a lot of interesting stories about herself and her husband. She had a girl gangbing. She's not into guy gangbangs, but she's into girl gangbangs, and she had a girl gangbang. She loves it. She loves women. And then she gives information at the end about all the cruises and resorts out there and what goes down and how much they cost and some general information, which is super interesting. But like I said, you could go to her website to get specific information and use her to book your next lifestyle trip. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Sandra. The link to her website to Dduction Travel is in the
Starting point is 00:05:21 description. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Sandra. Hi, Sandra. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you doing today? I'm pretty good. How about yourself? I'm good. Sandra, I don't know how you found me or I found you, but you are, I mean, listen, you have a whole very interesting story and background, and we're going to get to that. But you also, because of your background and being in the lifestyle and getting into it and all the stuff that you did, you started your own travel, what is, would it be company? Like travel what? Like travel?
Starting point is 00:05:58 Yeah, it's a lifestyle travel company for, you know, for swingers, open mind people. And it contents cruises and hotels it covers worldwide. Right. So what people could do is like anyone looking to go on a cruise or go to resort instead of having to do all the Googling and finding out the information and reading the reviews and, you know, hoping for the bad. they could go to you and you have all the information on all of them and you could direct people to the ones that are right for them, right?
Starting point is 00:06:29 That's like the service you provide. That is correct. And then, you know, people can call me, text me, email. So basically I represent a lot of different companies. For example, Desire, LLV, Bliss Cruces, Spice, Match, which is basically my website is one-stop shopping instead of people go to different websites and see what's going on. Yeah, I know, I love that. A lot of different companies.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, because a lot of people don't want to do all that work. So you have done it for them. And you just didn't do the work. You have lived in the lifestyle. So like, let's go there. Like, let's get your whole backstory. I will link. We'll talk more about your travel business and to some of the different cruises and stuff
Starting point is 00:07:12 at the end. But like, and I'll link to everything. But let's talk about how you got into the lifestyle. Because it kind of started from what I remember from like a, a boyfriend that you were with when you were younger who had like a bi-ex girlfriend or somebody, I don't know, there was some threesome that started at all, right? Yes, I started with a boyfriend. He introduced me to another women.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And I like very much. For some reason, we broke up a few years later when I met my actually husband right now. We were after two years into the relationship, we were watching porn. and it was a threesome with, you know, two girls and a guy. And I mentioned to him that I've done that and I would like to try again. Okay, so that one time, though, with that ex-boyfriend, that was just a one-time deal. But you enjoyed it. No, it wasn't one time it.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It was like, you know, two or three times that we did it. Okay. You broke up. Okay. Right, right. Yes, we broke up. Okay. So you tell your husband, you're into it.
Starting point is 00:08:17 What does he say? like does he feel like he hit the lottery? Absolutely. Well, man doesn't like that. Yeah, totally. Wait, let's just tell people, though, the real, like, you are Brazilian. And I just always think because, like, I used to cocktail waitress in a place in New York City that had like a Brazilian night.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And I just always been like, all these people do is just like fuck and drink and dance and have fun. They're like the happiest party people, sexy people on the planet. I mean, it is a part of your culture to be. very open sexually, correct? Or am I stereotyping? Yes, that is correct also. But also Brazil is a very religious country.
Starting point is 00:08:57 So it's just, of course, this day and age, it's so many swingers in Brazil. It's a lot. You meet people from all over the world, especially the cruises and the resorts that are going everywhere. Yeah. Europe also is very open-minded. Yeah, more so than here, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely more than here. Right. So now is your husband Brazilian or did you meet him when you were here? He's American. No. Yeah, he's American. Okay, so you tell him you want to have a threesome and like how do you go about fine?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Do you have a threesome with a girl, right? Yeah. So basically I started looking at internet and I found parties. So there was this particular party who was in a bar on a hotel and they closed at the bar. So we went and we met this couple. And prior to that, I mentioned to my husband, maybe she should stay in a hotel. You know, we don't want to drink and drive, even if it's a local. And so we stay in a hotel.
Starting point is 00:10:03 So we met this couple. The gentleman was a little older, but the girl was so beautiful and hot. Oh, my God. Yeah. So we end up going to the room. and I end up having sex with her while my husband and a guy sitting on a sofa watching. Wow. So you had like an audience. Yes, very much so. And then it start from, you know, from now on, it started that way. So we did a lot of party. We went to a lot of different parties and did some there. And then we start traveling, you know, with, you know, different websites, different places that, you know, advertising travel. So I actually got a job one of the Swinker websites.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I don't want to mention them. Okay. That's okay. But I worked for them for seven years. What did you do for them? I was the West Coast representative for them. And I did translate the site as well from English to Portuguese to attract, you know, a Brazilian audience as well.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Oh, interesting. Okay. Yes. So I worked for them for seven years until I, you know, we travel all over the world with them because between my husband and I, we speak five languages. Wow. So they use it as a lot, you know, to communicate with people, you know, we are very floundry. We, you know, we always talk to people. And so they uses us for us a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:44 So we travel quite a bit all over the world until I decided that, you know, I had enough. I want to be my own boss. Yeah, that's great. But you just went so quickly through your whole lifestyle. People want to hear those details. I'm like what you and yours have been done. Because you did more than just threesomes with women. Eventually you wind up threesomes with men.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm assuming if you're going to parties, you're having group sex. I don't know. Tell me like those kinds of, like, you know, your experience with that kind of stuff. Well, for a year. it was three sons with a woman only. Now, let me ask you this, because a lot of women don't want to see their guy with a woman. Were you that woman, or were you like, I want to be with her and I want to see you with her? Or was, like, did you have any kind of rules and regulations between the two of you?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Well, the rules is that, you know, basically I make the rules. It's like, the person. And my husband, he's the kind of guy. It's like, okay, you like that woman. I like that woman, too. Of course I do. Yeah. You know, so for a year, we did a three son with a woman.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And then one day he turned out to me, he says, I want to, I want to watch you sucking a cock. And I said, are you sure? He says, yes. I said, okay. So we end up in a party, you know, we like this couple. We are, you know, start talking and this and that. And we end up, you know, having sex with them. And swapping.
Starting point is 00:13:12 So now, I don't know that you answered my question. Your guy was allowed to, you allowed him to hook up with the girl too. Like, would he have sex with the girl when you guys were having these three sons? Or were you just, okay. So yeah, eventually he does, right? Okay, cool. Yes, he does. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So now this time, that first time, did you guys do a full swap? Like he fucked that guy's wife and you fucked her husband. Is that what happened? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes. So it was pretty hot. So, and then, you know, and then sometimes sometimes, some,
Starting point is 00:13:42 Sometimes, you know, you meet a couple and then you like the girl, but you don't like the guy. So it's just sometimes a little awkward. But, you know, we always manage it to, you know, to have fun, no matter what. Right. Now, did you go to Swingers Clubs too? And is that how, like, I mean, what went down when you went to these different or the resorts? I mean, when you said you traveled the world, did you start traveling and always finding the lifestyle club or a place like where you went? Yes, actually, our honeymoon was a lifestyle honeymoon.
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Starting point is 00:15:44 So if you want to buy the book, just go to the description and click on the link. Is that how, like, I mean, what went down when you went to these different or the resorts? I mean, when you said you traveled the world, did you start traveling and always finding the lifestyle club or a place like where you went? Yes, actually, our honeymoon was a lifestyle honeymoon. Oh, you're kidding. No. Where was it?
Starting point is 00:16:07 So we went to south of France, which is Nice, Monaco, and we went to Barcelona, and we went to London. All those places I Google and I found clubs to go. So all these clubs, we hook up with other people. Wow. And that's how you celebrate. So now you, so how did it change your relationship? Because this was, I mean, you're married. You brought it up to him.
Starting point is 00:16:37 day. Like what was the difference that opening it up had? Like what kind of effect? Well, you know, I believe that I believe in a non-monogamous relationship. So, but everything that we do, we do together. We don't actually have a date separately. We don't see other people on the sides. Everything that we do, we do together. That's our room. And so basically, you know, we're not that kind of people that, you know. We like to enjoy it together. Yeah, but it has it, I mean, did it take your relationship from one level to a different level? Because, you know, you weren't even married yet.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I'm assuming, I guess, because you said you went on lifestyle honeymoon together. So that means you opened it up before you were even married, right? Yes. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. we did. And, you know, it's just, I feel really confident with him. And I felt really, you know, he can trust him, he can trust me and we're not going to step out of our rules. So, of course, we always talk about, you know, our rules, you know, and the relationship and, you know, in case,
Starting point is 00:18:00 you know, we meet someone and the girl, you know, go talk to him and completely ignore me. He knows that this couple is not going to happen. Right. Because, you know, it has to be, everything has to be mutual, has to be, you know, everybody has to be in the same page. We are at this point in our life right now that I look at him. He knows what I'm thinking. How long you've been together? Almost 20 years and Mary 16. Right. And the whole, and you've been open all that time. So you're super successful. So it's, I love having someone like you on the phone because like you said, a lot of people don't last. And of course, I have couples that it has gone awry. And I think people learn from those episodes as much as they learn from episodes like
Starting point is 00:18:47 this, where you are somebody that has done it and you've done it very successfully. Like, what would you say is the difference since you have such a broad view of it and you've been doing it for so long? And you're successful. Is like, what's the difference between the people that are successful and the people that aren't? Well, I guess we'll be respected with each other, communication. You know, every couple should have their own rules, their own boundaries. And you need to speak all the time, you know, what's bothering you, was not bothering you, what you like, would you dislike. So, you know, it's always, it's always, and it's always a, I don't say a challenge,
Starting point is 00:19:29 but it's always our rules. Right. You know, being open and communicative at, uh, so we can respect each other. I remember, I think now I remember in your, in your bio that I read that eventually you did have a DP and that like blew your mind. Is there some sort of DP that goes on?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Or is that what it was? Was that what it was? There was some sort of thing that happened towards the... Well, I had DP. Not very often. That's something that I really, really need to choose. the person to do that. And my husband needs to feel really comfortable with a guy.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, yeah. Because he does he feel around with guys or no? No. He's not bisexual. Okay. No, he's not. And so it was, it was interested. But the next day,
Starting point is 00:20:27 I feel kind of like awkward, but you know, and I did it again, you know, a few months later or something. You know, I like it. But it's not something that I do very often. Right. And you currently, I mean, you've been swinging this whole time and seeing couples. I mean, how do you meet other couples now?
Starting point is 00:20:45 Is it strictly on these vacations and stuff? Or do you also use apps? I don't usually, well, I use the Swinger sites. Yeah. Okay. You know, Swinger websites. And I'm actually, I belong to a few different sites to personal and business as well. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So I promote both. And clubs, you know, a few clubs, house parties, you know, that's how you meet people all the time. The majority is it will be house parties and clubs. Yeah, someone brought that up the other day and said, like, it's just harder to like weed through everything on the apps. If you go to a party that you could, or a club, you know, you could pick and choose. There's a lot of people in one place. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And I'm talking about, I'm talking about more low. You know, and then when you travel, you know, you find, you know, if you go on a cruise, of course, the whole crew is going to be full of swing. So the whole hotel is going to be full of swing. So it's, you know, it's a lot to choose from. Oh, my God, that's so funny. So you've had your share. I mean, you've been hooking up with people through your whole marriage, always open.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Never solo. Does your husband enjoy watching you? I'm assuming he does with other men. and you, do you enjoy watching him? Yes, I do. Both ways. Yes. But he's the kind of person.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He just let me enjoy the woman first. And then, and then, you know, he joins and he tells the other guy to join. But he always let me enjoy the woman first. Oh, interesting. Okay. He likes to watch. I mean, that's probably the part of his foreplay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yes. Yes, he loves to watch, yes. And he loves to watch me with a man. but I I enjoyed the woman first and then I end up with a guy. Right, okay, but you also do enjoy watching him with the other woman.
Starting point is 00:22:41 You never had, did you ever have any kind of jealousy in the beginning of that or because I do find that I hear more often, there's a lot of hot wives that my audience goes mental because there's a lot of hot wives that I speak to where they go and they have extra dick on the side, but they are just, they can't wrap their head around watching their guy with someone else and they're okay with it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 The guy is, but it's a lot of, of times they're not okay with it but i mean do you have have you ever had any issues with it or no well of course some once in a while you get jealous you know you think that he's paying more attention to to the you know to the girl than you know his own wife yeah but but you know that's why you know you don't make a scene you know after you get home you talk about it and you tell you know what was wrong what bothers you and then you know you learn from that yeah and I think that's an important point to me because I think some people think it's like black and white. Like, you know, if you're really open like you guys are, that, you know, jealousy went out
Starting point is 00:23:40 the window and you never have a jealous moment. But I've heard that before. Like just like, of course sometimes it will come up. Absolutely. You know, you have, you have to have a conversation and explain your feelings, explain where you like or what you dislike. Otherwise it doesn't work because nobody can read your mind. Right. But where you're, I mean, I'm assuming you wound up meeting a lot of people in the lifestyle and you're so heavy into it because it's also your job. It's your career. It's what you do.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But does anybody, like, did you have a vanilla life and do those people know? No, absolutely not. We live a double life. All right. Okay. Like the majority, like I would say, I would say 99% of the swingers live a double life. Right. Because, you know, it's okay to be lesbian.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It's okay to be gay, but it's not okay to be. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. But this is what I think is different about that sometimes. Because some people, like, sometimes I'll get like an email, a very judgy email from someone like, oh, did, why didn't you ask that girl? Like, if she tells her kids about what she does. I'm like, do vanilla couples tell their kids about how they fuck? Nobody talks about their sex life with other people anyway. So that's why I think it doesn't matter if you don't or why you don't have to because it's like your sex life. Like if you're gay and you're romantically involved with someone, that's a totally different thing that you want to tell people about, right? But it's, you know, most people don't talk about what they do in the bedroom with people.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Absolutely. Absolutely. And it's nobody's business and people will judge you no matter what. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So if you don't want to be judged, don't talk.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Exactly. Don't tell anyone. What do you tell people that you do for a living? Always exactly what I used to do, translations. Okay. Translations for travel agencies. Okay, hilarious. But I do know that, like, I mean, do you put your face to your, like, anywhere or anything?
Starting point is 00:25:40 I mean, I'm assuming people in the lifestyle all know you and they know that you own your business, but so you don't put your face to it, right? I would assume. No, for example, I advertise on TikTok, advertise on Instagram. I don't put my face in there. Right, okay. I have two Facebook accounts, one person along with the business. Right. The one with the business, sometimes I put my face on it.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But usually if it's a close group. Mm-hmm. So it's not because of me. It's because of my husband's business. Right. What he does for a living, you mean. Yes. And what he does for living and he has two other partners and you don't want to, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:20 ruin that business, you know, that business brings, you know, our bread and butter home. Right. Exactly. But so now, you see. your guy with people, you've been with other people, and it has only made you closer, I would assume. That's what a lot of people say. Oh, yes, we made it closer. We are just, basically, we're just partners, friends, lovers. We, you know, I don't, I don't see us any other way. Right. I've always felt like if you meet somebody that you're really secure in the fact of,
Starting point is 00:26:54 like, you know, emotionally, you guys are tied together and you're in it with, you. each other for good. You know, what does it matter the sex, like who you fuck? Listen. Yeah. And not every people that we need to have sex. We have friends.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah. We have friends for 15 years. That is just friends on a lifestyle that's just enjoying, you know, have lunch or go to the party together. Yeah. And we don't fuck them. Yeah. You know, not necessarily because you meet someone, you're going to have sex
Starting point is 00:27:21 with them. That's absolutely not. Right. And we have so many friends that they're being in a lifestyle for. 15, 20 years that they've been married, they've been happy. So it's not a rule that, you know, everybody needs to find the own rules, basically. Right. Yeah, and it's not a free-for-all is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It's not like just because you're open-minded. It doesn't mean you're promiscuous fucking everybody. I think that sometimes people think stuff like that. Yeah, as I know. That's why, that's all the judgment comes from. Yeah. You know, that people judge without even knowing exactly what's happening. And so I have a lot of people contact me, you know, over, you know, the websites and ask me questions.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And so basically I ask them for the phone numbers so I can explain over the phone because it's impossible to explain writing. Yeah, so much easier to have a conversation. Exactly. And what are your biggest questions that you get from people? This is everybody's going to have sex with everybody. Really? Yep. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Right. That's like the fantasy they have in their head. Exactly. Exactly. And so what is the truth of what's going down at these resorts and these cruises? What would you say? Well, it's going to happen whatever you want to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Mm-hmm. You know, we just returned for a cruise that was from Rio de Janeiro to Buenos Aires for New Year's Eve. Okay. Amazing cruise. Beautiful. however we met a lot of we met people from
Starting point is 00:29:03 United States we met people from Central and South America we met people that just want to watch you know and it says oh I just want to go to play Rome and fuck my own wife or fuck my husband just want to watch and it's
Starting point is 00:29:20 it's for everyone but it depends where your comfort level is right so if you want to meet other people and just watch them, it's fine. If you want to participate, it's fine. So it depends what your rules are. It depends what you like, what it is like.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Right, but what I've heard and what I think is similar across the board is that people in the lifestyle are very open-minded. So they're okay if you just want to watch, if you want to remain cloth, right? It's not like anyone pushes anybody to do anything. Oh, absolutely not. The people that pushes doesn't last on the lifestyle. because, you know, that's disrespect. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So you want to do whatever is comfortable for you, whatever is comfortable for your partner, and that's when you talk about it, what you like, what you dislike. How many people were on that New Year's Eve cruise? It's 350 cabins, so 700 people. Wow. Did you have a lot?
Starting point is 00:30:21 Did you wind up having a lot of sex? Yeah, actually we did. we met so many cool people oh my god so many cool you know the theme nights is pretty fun but wait question to you because you've been in the lifestyle for so long yeah have you seen the age range of people change like do you see more young people uh in the lifestyle that than you used to back in the day or is it similar no i used to i seen more younger people now right especially in the house parties i've been seen more younger people people. Yeah, that's what, because I mean, I get, I've been doing my show for about seven years and I feel
Starting point is 00:31:00 like I get so many more younger people calling about being in the lifestyle and going to clubs than I used to, you know, just in the past couple of years. Yes, I would say, I would say that. You know, I noticed, well, not the past couple of years because of COVID, but a little bit Yeah, right, right, exactly. I used to see that. I used to see that, yes. And it's, and it's continuous. So, which is, which is great. You know, so. People, you know, already, you know, being open with their sexual life and then what do they want to do? What do they want to accomplish? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Yes, I'm happy for them. What are some of the best resorts that you've been to and tell me what goes down there or your experience? Well, it's not that many resorts. That's a lifestyle. We have desired resorts in Cancun. and those they have two resorts and they both are resorts for couples only
Starting point is 00:32:00 they have another resort called Temptation Temptation allowed singles so even if a vanilla people they allow singles because it's only topless and they don't have any playroom in there. It's more like a party hotel
Starting point is 00:32:17 that people want to toppler but a lot of swingers, a lot of couples go there because they love to have fun and find young people also it's a lot of younger crowd oh interesting yes so temptation actually just opened a couple of resorts in Punta Cana the Dominican Republic
Starting point is 00:32:36 there are those two resorts there together one is for singles and the other is for couples only I have not visited this one yet but from the picture scenes amazing also I know Hido Hidon needs me in Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's allowed singles. If you into gangbang, that's a great hotel to go, a great resort to go. What is the name of it? Because Zumpia, I have a lot of gangbang girls on my show. Hedonism.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Heedonism. Oh, really? Yes. Interesting. Yeah. So, you know, a lot of couples go, but they allow singles. And, you know, some girls like,
Starting point is 00:33:24 like, you know, gangbanks. What about you, Sandra, I have to ask? Not my cup of tea. No, I'll like, I'll take a gang bang with a bunch of girls, but not guys. You'll do, okay, well, that's still a gang bang, right? What is it called, right? Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Did you ever do a girl gang bang yourself? I have, actually, a few years ago. I did a birthday party in one of the, you know, the, you know, the, the, you know, the, clubs over here. And so a bunch of girls just grabbed me and we went to the playroom and we just took a bunch of pictures and we had fun. How many girls? Let me see if I remember two, four. I believe it was five girls in this. It was like six of us. Wow. And so it was just all of you girls and you all like hooked up and you were taking pictures. Is that what you said? Well, no. The husbands would take pictures. Oh. Yes. So we know. Of course.
Starting point is 00:34:24 with everybody agree that was okay to take pictures. Yeah, yeah, yes. Oh, so, okay, so the guys watched and all the girls hooked up. Yeah, the guys watched all the girls, but, you know, the girls were like, you know, I don't know, 45 minutes I can never remember. Has been so long ago. And then, you know, the guys joined us. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Oh, okay. That was probably fun for you. Yeah, it was. Yeah. Have a great visual right now. Oh, well, the girl gangbeng. That's so funny. So, but no, so you're not into the guy thing.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I think it's very specific. Listen, that's what I said. You know, everybody likes, you know, what do they like? Yeah. So that's not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you like two guys? Do you prefer you and another woman?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Like, what's your favorite way to hook up? Well, my favorite will be three sons with women. Right, right. That's my favorite. Right. Or four son with a woman will be three women and my husband. Oh, have you done that a lot? You're lucky fucking husbands.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yes, he is. If his partners only knew. I remind him every day about that. If his partners only knew, they'd be jealous. No, he's, no, he's, it's, it's fun. It's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all the girls that, you know, that I like. Yeah. And then, of course, of course he likes as well.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So, so you guys have the same taste in women is what you're saying? Um, no, sometimes he has a taste of woman that I don't quite agree. But I'll let, I'll let it know. Right. Well, what do you like and what, like, what, like, what do you not, Like what kind of women do you like? What's your taste? Oh, it's very hard.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It's very hard to describe. Right. It's like, you know, it's a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a chemistry. You know, if somebody's friendly, you know, sometimes you meet a girl that she's very snob. And that's not going to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Okay. Uh-huh. So I, it's just, it's just a vibe. It's just, you know, about chemistry. If they're friendly, they're nice, you know, what are they into? you know, sometimes you meet a girl, we just start kissing right away. That was it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And do you feel the same way when it comes to men? Not really. I'm more particular with a man. Really? Okay. Tell me, like what is, what are you particular about with the guys? Well, it's also, you know, a chemistry. It's also a vibe.
Starting point is 00:36:47 It's also, you know, if you look at the person, you know, you feel a little tingles and see if you want to go there or not. Mm-hmm. But do you require like a big dick? You don't care. Like, I mean, is that kind of stuff? Yeah. The thing is, my husband has his biggest dick, which is, which is his nickname.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I'm glad I asked questions because I don't think you would have ever brought that, that up. His nickname, his nickname him, Anaconda. No. Yes. So it's very hard for me to find a guy that has this thing. is a dick. Wow. So he's long and wide. He's long and girth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And thick, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. So no one can,
Starting point is 00:37:36 you have the top of the mountain when it comes to that. You know, I'm lucky with that. So it's very hard for me to find a guy that, you know, sometimes I have sex with a guy. I don't even feel anything because it are so little. I was like, what am I doing here? Well, I think that's hard, because you get used to that, you know? Exactly. Exactly. Oh, no wonder why you can't do double penetration. How are you going to use anaconda and somebody else?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Well, the double penetration, he's always at the bottom. He is. And there will be a guy with a little dick. In your ass? Yes, that would be the double penetration. Oh, my God. How excited do you see the girls when they're like banging your husband? Because probably a lot of women haven't been with the anaconda before.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Oh my God. Sometimes it's embarrassing because sometimes the girl says to him, oh my God, it's so big, so big next to the husband or the boyfriend. And it's embarrassing. I feel sorry for the guy. Yeah. You know? Yeah, but I'm here to tell you, Sandra.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I hear a lot of guys on my show. Somehow they have this weird fantasy where they want, a lot of guys that want their wives to be with other guys. They want a guy to be bigger than them. Like, it's the thing that you would never as a woman. think a guy is in two, they are. So it's weird, you know. So maybe some of them don't mind that he's bigger than them. Well, I hope, I hope so because, you know, sometimes I feel embarrassed for them, for them. Because, you know, the way they talk. Yeah. You know, it's like expressing, like, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:39:10 you're so big next to the husband, a boyfriend, you know. I feel, I feel like embarrassed for the guy, you know, I feel sorry. Yeah. But it's nothing I can do, you know, it is what it is. Right. And it's yours, you know, you don't go home to, oh my God, I'm never seeing that again. Do you guys have regulars? Like, you know, people that you regularly, like, like, hook up with, you know, anyone like couple? Yeah, a few. Yeah, we have a few, but, you know, I always like to try fresh meat.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So you like the variety? Of course. I like, you know, I like, it's kind of like eating. new foods. You never try before. Yeah, yeah. You need to taste this if you like it or not. So you like to try different things.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I mean, I'm assuming you've had every kind of, you know, lover. Not just Presumians, Americans, French, Italian. On the above. Yeah, yeah. Any kind of like stereotypes you could give me or it's just person based or do you find any trends? Yes, it's just like, you know, from person to person. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It's just about chemistry. It's not about where they come from. Sometimes you don't even speak in the same language, but, you know, sexy sex is sex. Right, right. You don't even have to communicate. But you do speak five language between you guys. So you could really service people on your website. I mean, do you have people from all over the world that come to you for help?
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yes, I do. Yes, I do. And also, you know, always meeting new people, you know, that's the great about things, you know, social media. Because, you know, always advertising, always, you know, talk about. And, you know, so you talk about, you know, talk about this with someone new and this person talking with somebody else, you know, it's always, you know, a good referral as well. Right. Do you typically find that people come to you just one time and then you give them all the information,
Starting point is 00:41:06 you don't see them again? Or do typically people come to you get the information for one trip and then the next time they want to go away, the next year they come to you again? Yes, they do. I have a repeat. It's because of the, you know, whatever, whatever. provide to them because, you know, they can call me any time. Most of, most of when you book a trip, it's just did everything online. Yeah. So if you have any issues of something, you don't talk to
Starting point is 00:41:31 anyone. Yeah. You're fine. And if you try to talk, it's going to hold forever. Yeah. It's kind of like doing the airlines right now. Yeah. So, so that's, you know, that's, you know, that's my personal touch. Right. Do you have a favorite, uh, resort or cruise? Well, people ask me that question a lot. But I will tell people, well, first of all, you need to know when are you available to book? When can you travel? Second of all, you're looking for cruise or you're looking for a resort? Third, what's your budget?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Right. You know, so all those three things come in place because sometimes people ask, no, I want to go next year to a cruise. I said, well, you have to let me know what are you available? but, you know, it depends. You know, some cruise are, we have some cruise in most every month, but you need to see if you're available those days. Yeah. You know, people schedule changes all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Right. And depending on what time of the year it is and what season it is, wherever that cruise is, it might be available or not. I mean, you can't travel to Greece in, you know, February, but you're going to go there in the summer. So it really, you have to get all that information first to guide. But I mean, what about for you? Do you have a favorite that you've been to that you love?
Starting point is 00:42:54 Is like if you were to go tomorrow, you'd be like, that's where I'm fucking going? I would say Greek islands. The Greek islands. Just like to have got up Greece. Yeah. Croatia is beautiful. We actually, we're actually doing an island takeover in Croatia. Oh, when?
Starting point is 00:43:14 The end of June. Okay. The island's going to be for five days. Okay, so basically you fly to split in Croatia. And then you take like a ferry to go to the islands. The 600 people on this island take over in Croatia. Wow. The whole island.
Starting point is 00:43:35 The whole island. Swingers, lifestyle people. Yep. The majority of people, it's this group from Europe that's putting together. The majority of people that go is Europeans. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. Mostly Europeans?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yes. The majority is Europeans, yes. Right. Americans could go, but it's just that it's the majority. No, everybody can go. Anyone, right. Everybody can go. You just have to book and pay for.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah. It's stuff like that expensive. Do you have a list of like, like all your, do you have ones that are lower end? I'm assuming you do. Like you said, you have to ask the budget. I mean, the ones that are like less expensive and the highest end ones. Like, what are the most expensive ones? The most expensive ones.
Starting point is 00:44:18 ones will be a cruise. It depends. You know, some cruise, it depends on the type of cabin you booking as well. Some crews, like, for example, a suite, like I call owner's suite. It can cost between $30,000 to $45,000 for a week. Right. Or it can cost $15,000 if you go interior cabin. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So it really depends on the destination, depends on type of cruise, depends on type of cabin you're looking for, depends on budget. The majority of people, you know, book a cruise area and a half-minute advance because most of these places, most of the cruises that advertise, you can make payments because nobody can drop, you know, $10,000 at once. Right. So the majority, you know, they have payments that you can make, you know, three, four, five, six payments.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It really depends on the trip as well. So how much is that Hotel or that island takeover and Croatia cost for a couple to go to? So I would say it's
Starting point is 00:45:27 $1,500 for five days and it's include a brunch and dinner. And lodging? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:42 That's cheap. Yeah, it's not expensive. Now this one is not expensive at all. Yeah, that's really cheap. I guess because you're glamping or whatever, but you're on a beautiful island. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yes. So this one is actually, this one is available right now. We have like a little bit more expensive, which is $3,600. So it really depends, you know, what you're looking for, where your budget is.
Starting point is 00:46:06 But this is for only five days take over. Yeah, that's amazing, though. But I'm, so I guess you have like stuff for everyone's budget. Listen, I get a lot of people listening to my show that are in the lifestyle or just starting out that would love this information or need to know because I'm like a great Googler. Like I do, I love doing stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:46:25 but most people are not psychotic like I am. They don't want to cross-reference, read review. Like I actually like that kind of psychotic stuff, but I'm a weirdo. Most people don't want to do that kind of deep dive. They don't have the time. They're not interested. And sometimes you can't believe stuff, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So it's much better to get that kind of information from somebody like, you. That really has been there, done it. You're in the lifestyle. You've been in it for a long time. You've been all over the world. You're well traveled. And you've been to all these places. And you could really give people valuable information. Absolutely. It takes a long time to, you know, to start looking for something. And my website is just right there, right on a palm in your hands. Right. And if somebody wants more information to get specific and like that's where they go. I mean, is it something where you custom make stuff and then.
Starting point is 00:47:16 book it for them or they just book it through your website and they could call you with questions. Well, they can book through my website or I can book it to them. Just have to let me know which trip they are they are looking for. Yeah, but you do help people and guide people to the places that they want and then they just go through your website, right? That's like really, really the service. That's what I think is the most valuable thing. I mean, you have it. Absolutely. The first thing is that you have it all in one place, all the cruises, all the stuff that's going down all over the world. and then they have access to you pointing to the right one for them so they don't have to go, even on your website through all the stuff that's available, right?
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yes, absolutely. And also, you know, for example, if you want to book a resort, some resorts you can book any time. So you just have to let me know what dates you like and I need to see what's available. Yeah. You know, what type of rooms are available? If they are available, I can suggest maybe some other dates. so and some of some of some of some of the some of the other resources you know you can book any time also so I have
Starting point is 00:48:18 resources you can book any time and also I have that's a fix it closes the dates and resorts as well takeovers I need to tell you your your website is called seduction travel I'll say it in the beginning so people know what the fuck we're talking about I don't know that we said it in the beginning or not yeah seductiontravel that count and if people want to see what's going on up to in 2020 to end in
Starting point is 00:48:42 2024 they can just click all trips. We have like three pages with several different cruises
Starting point is 00:48:48 in hotel takeovers or worldwide. Now I know that you said you were also on some like lifestyle websites
Starting point is 00:48:54 and stuff and you promote those as well. Are there any that you could recommend? Cassidy is a great website.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Cassidy, uh-huh. Yes. Crescent a great website. If you wanted to a European website called
Starting point is 00:49:07 Spicymatch. com It's also on my website under affiliates. Yeah. So I have that also. And some of those, they have like a month for free. If you log in, they can give like a month for free. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So that, right. So that kind of information is also on your website. So it's not just that. They also have, because I get a lot of times emails from people like, where do I go to me? And I'm like, listen to my show. I'm like the host. I don't have the, you know, my people talk and give you that information.
Starting point is 00:49:39 You got to write it down when they say, I'll put all the links, though. Of course. For your website so people could go there. But I mean, you're like the professional. You know, let's end with you telling me like, I don't know, give me like the hottest scenario. You've been to add this for a long time.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You had that lady gang bang. And maybe that was your hottest scenario. But could you go through like the hottest story if you have one or two that, you know, give my listeners a good fucking story? After 15 years, it becomes a blur. I know. They're all good, right? They're all good, they're all different.
Starting point is 00:50:14 They all, you know, you're meeting people. Sometimes you like it. Sometimes you don't. Sometimes you expect more that, you know, that whatever happened. But they're all good. They're all fun. You know, we meet people all the time. That's the part that I love the most, just meeting new people.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Right. You like the social aspect of it. I do. love the social aspect. We do this almost every weekend. You do? Yeah, almost every weekend. We go to parties, we meet friends and if you're not traveling, I do something local. I mean, how much, what fucking happened to your business and the lifestyle community and your guys' sex life when COVID hit? Well, we actually didn't have much problem. Well, business, yes. But personal life, no, because we always have a lot of friends around.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Right. Oh, okay. So you continue to see each other and friends and stuff like at houses and stuff like that, right? Because you didn't need to go to a club. No, no, because all the clubs were shut down. Right. That's what I mean. So how about your business, like seduction travel?
Starting point is 00:51:28 Well, my business was shut down as well. Right. So now I'm starting recuperating everything. So it's not easy. Yeah, yeah, but you're back up and running. Well, yes, I'm back up and running. And people are going. Do you find that the traffic of people traveling and getting back out there is the same, like, pre-pandemic now, by now?
Starting point is 00:51:47 No, now it's more because people were. Really? Yes, people were so, you know, at home all the time that people just want to get out. Like, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give an example. Like, if you want to book a desire resource right now, people are booking six to eight months in advance because it's getting sold out really quickly. Wow. So it's crazy. So it's busier than ever.
Starting point is 00:52:11 That's good. Yes. It is easier than ever. Yeah. So you'll make up for a lost time. Well, listen, everybody should go check out your website, Seduction Travel. I think that what you offer is really great and so many people could benefit from it. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah. I appreciate that. Also, you know, we are the same name on Instagram. Same name on Cassidy. Same name on TikTok. It's Sandra and Mark Seduction Travel Facebook. book. So, you know, so it's a, it will be easier to find. Yeah, perfect. So I will give out your links in the description so that people could come find you if they want to, you know, go on a cruise,
Starting point is 00:52:51 get information from you as well as like what I think is great as you also offer those websites where people could go and just, you know, Swinger websites where they could start. Absolutely. Sign up, yes. Yeah, because people like always are looking for that too. So you're a one-stop shop. I suggest people go there. Thank you for calling in. I like people that are selling something that they have tried themselves, you know. I think it's great that you have been in the lifestyle. You're very positive. You love it. You've been doing it for long enough that you're really like a professional. And that's like the best person to go to for help as far as I'm concerned. I really appreciate that. At least I won't sell anything that I haven't tried. Right. And you never know. You might wind up on a cruise
Starting point is 00:53:33 with the anaconda. So go. Here we go. People are going to be hitting you up for your husband. But I have to go through me first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got to be, okay, you better have a good vibe for Sandra. She's the one that makes the rules.
Starting point is 00:53:52 There we go. All right, that's awesome. All right, thank you so much, Sandra, for calling out. I really appreciate, Cassie. On my Facebook, I hope you could do this. Like, I'm not on my Facebook. On my Patreon, I give anonymous picks of people. Like, that's what I show on.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Just to my Patreon members, it's private. It's over there. So if you could send me, like, some anonymous picks, of course, nothing X-rated, just like sexy picks or whatever. Like, you know, I could post over there. No face, no nothing. That's cool. I'll change your voice a little bit so nobody know who you are, but you're Sandra from
Starting point is 00:54:25 seduction travels. Like, all that will remain the same. But I'll slightly change your voice so that none of your vanilla friends will find out who you are. That's okay. I barely have any of little friends anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. It's hilarious. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great day. Thank you, Sandra. You too. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hey, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode. If you want to follow the show, follow me at Strict Anonymous on Instagram or Twitter. That's at Strict Anonymous.
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