Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1335 - Trevor and his Wife Started Swinging a Few Years Ago and They Couldn’t be Happier

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

Trevor and his wife started swinging a few years ago and they love being in the Lifestyle and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear hims discuss all the details including how they wound up at their first swingers club and how and why they decided not to play with anyone, the second club they went to and what went down that time, when they got involved in their local swinger scene and what kind of events they attended, their first soft swap at a lifestyle resort and how far they went, their first two mff threesomes and what went down, their first hardcore full swap and exactly what went down, the next guy they met up with for a mfm threesome and what went down, the second mfm threesome and exactly what went down tat time, how he now feels about possibly hooking up with a guy and why its changed for him, how him and his wife learned about the Lifestyle and how their education helped them plus whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off DRIVE Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You can be on the show. All you got to do is email me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com or go to my website, strictly anonymouspodcast.com and just click on Be on the Show. Now listen, if you have a naughty confession that you want to leave, you could leave it on my confessions hotline. The number 347-4-203579. That's 347-4-7-4-203579. You could call that number 24-7.

I change all the voices there as well. Some of those confessions may get on to a confessions hotline, a confession's episode. The rest all go on my Patreon. And my Patreon is a really great deal. It's only like $7 a month and you get so much for $7. I mean, you get every single episode now early at free and intro free. Okay. You don't hear any of this stuff over at on Patreon.

You also get all of the hot picks of all of my female. email guests who call in. You get all of the confessions. You get Q&As that I answer questions on every other month. Plus, I throw in for anyone who joins my Patreon free access to my Discord. Now, my Discord is a super fun place to join. There's over 6,000 people on there. What's great about Discord is you get to post stuff yourself. And it's super naughty over there and fun. It's a not safe for work site. So you've got to be 18 plus to join, but if you want to get in, you could join my Patreon and I'll send you a complimentary link. Or if you buy my book, my book is finally out. If you want some more hot stories, but you want to read them, you can get my book Shickly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's a super

fun mix of all kinds of different hot stories from my show. After you read the stories, you could go listen to the episodes. They're all there, but the stories are written in third person. the link is in the description to buy the book, and all you got to do is send me a screenshot of your purchase at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, and I'll send you a complimentary link to my Discord. I have all kinds of contests on there. The best boob contest just ended,

but you could still see all the picks. I got like over 200 picks of boobs over there. We do a butt contest. We've done a big dick contest. I mean, you name it. We do it over on my Discord. My Discord is like the best. So you want to sign up.

The last thing I'm going to tell you about is SDC. SDC.com is like the world's largest adult online dating site. And what's great about SDC is it's only good to go on there and meet other couples. It's a great place to find out about all the events and the clubs and the parties going down in your neighborhood or wherever you're traveling. Now, listen, I could give you a free trial to SDC. All you got to do is use my code three. 1712, that's 3-7712, or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on Trevor. Trevor made my life easy. Trevor's great. Honestly, he could have probably talked for another hour. He did tell me before we start taping. My story is going to go over an hour. I'm like, no, no, no, I'm going to keep you in line because I only have an hour. But he was like, she's so good at telling his story, him and his wife, third wife, her third husband. They got together. Their story. Their story. of how they met kind of is interesting and then they decided to open things up and they took their time.

He talks about, you know, every phase that they went into, you know, starting from, you know, the first swinger club they went to and how and why they wound up there, which is an interesting story. And then, you know, what they did when they came home. They started going to house parties. What they did, you know, every step of the way. They didn't go full swap, hardcore right from the get-go. They took their time. He talks about, like I said, every step of the way. His wife has been with women. Both him and his wife were very hesitant about his wife being with another guy hardcore. And eventually, though, they came around both of them and they decided to do it. And it's now it's something that they both love. He talks about their experiences with hard swapping with another

couple as well as her having threesomes with other guys. And he talks all about how they communicate. And it's super interesting. He's very detailed about his stories, but he's very details about how they communicated with each other, you know, throughout the whole process of them being getting into the lifestyle. He talked about their rules or regulations, what they did, what they didn't want to do, how things changed, all that kind of good stuff. He's definitely someone who listened to my podcast and learned with his wife. And now he's paying it forward if you ask me because I think his episode is super interesting on so many different levels. Like I said, you get very much details about all the sex that they have. But you're going to, I think, be impressed

with the way that they took their time and how they communicated through all the phases. So anyway, and I have hot picks of her over on my Patreon and they'll be on my Discord. So, and he talks about that. So anyway, I'll be right back on with Trevor. Hey, Trevor, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? Good. So Trevor, listen, your wife's going to call in another time and give me your guy's story from her side, which I always love. I think it's always interesting to hear a couple's story separately, right? But you're going to talk about, you and your wife's journey into the lifestyle, right? How long? Let me get a snapshot of where you guys are at now, Trevor.

How long have you guys been married for together? So we've been together just over nine years and almost married for five. Okay. Second or first marriages? So this is our third. So we've actually known each other since we were 12 years old. Both have been married twice, other kids, other marriages, and finally came together in our early 40s.

Love that story. That's kind of interesting. but you never got together before, but were you friends the whole time? Yeah, we were friends the whole time. I had a big crush on her. She's definitely, I'm one of those dudes that she's definitely out of my league. And so, but yeah, we've been friends ever since we were 12. We met in middle school and just never really knew that there was a connection between the two of us.

Well, third times a charm, maybe for the both of you, hopefully. It sounds like, you know, you're finally together. Okay, so how long have you guys been open for? and in the lifestyle? So we started in the lifestyle a little over three years ago. Okay. And yeah, our journey kind of started. About three years ago, we went down to Las Vegas and was going down there for a concert

and country Christmas and stuff. And we were down there with some vanilla friends. And we ended up going out to show, she got sick. one of our friends was down there. So me and my wife went out to a show. And after the show, we got done. We were sitting at a bar and just kind of talking about what to do after that. And I used to work in Las Vegas. And so I had heard about a club called the Green Door in Las Vegas. And I'd never been there, but I'd heard about it. And so I brought it up to my wife. Now that's a swinger club for people that don't know. Because listen, there's a lot of kind of clubs in Vegas you could take her to,

like a strip club or whatever. But you're like, let's go. Let's go to the green door, which happens to be a swinger club. Yeah. So I, and the way I was looking at it, back then I didn't really know what lifestyle was. I knew a swing was. Back then, meaning three years ago? Meaning three years ago. Yeah, I didn't know what lifestyle was.

I knew what swinging was, and I, back then I really wanted to stay away from swinging, because I'd had some friends, I had some bad experiences with it, but I didn't know the terminology of lifestyle. And so I kind of threw it out there because I've been to strip clubs before and honestly they don't really do much for me. And I'd heard about the green door and kind of it was like a live strip show, you know, sex scene and stuff like that. And so I threw it out to my wife not thinking that she would go for it, but maybe. And so as we're sitting at the bar, she pulled it up on her phone and looked at it and kind of looked through stuff. And unbeknownst to me, she turns to me and says, yeah, let's go. And it kind of shocked me.

I didn't really think that she would want to go. Yeah. Okay. And so we ended up going and, you know, before we went in, we kind of set rules. And our big rule was is that we were going to watch, but we weren't going to play. We weren't going to do anything. We were just going to watch. We kind of joked because we had another set of friends that they went to a strip club.

And, you know, they set rules. But then they got into the strip club and they completely broke the rules. So we were joking and I told her. I said, no, but we are going to stick to the rules. What are the rules? Well, the rules were that we're just going to watch and not. We weren't going to do anything other than watch. Okay.

And so we get in there, we get playing around, or watching around, sorry. And then one thing kind of leads to another, and she starts wanting to play. I'm sticking to the rules, though. And so we end up going into a room and doing a little bit of oral play just between me and her. I knew and I could sense that she was really, she really enjoyed this scene and stuff and, and this atmosphere. And so she wanted, I could tell she wanted to do more,

but I was being the good, good husband, if you will, and I was, I was keeping us a bay and, and wasn't letting this go outside of what, you know, what the rules were. And so after that, though, we left later that night and we went back to our hotel room

and just the sexual charge that it gave us. We wrote on that for three or four weeks after. Just really rode on the height of being in that atmosphere and that charge. And so consequently, after that, I'm kind of a, I like to research things. And so I was so intrigued as to what that feeling was because we just, I mean, we were, we were fucking like banshees afterwards. We, and she couldn't keep her hands off of me.

I couldn't keep my hands off of her. We just, we loved it. And we wrote it for like two weeks. And we didn't even really, like I say, do anything. It just was being there, filling the energy. And we just really found that we really enjoyed it. And so I started doing a bunch of research. Well, consequently, that is actually when I came across your podcast.

And so I've been a long-time listener of your podcast, a religious listener of your podcast for about three years now. And I also listened to some others. But that was when I started educating myself on what the lifestyle was, not necessarily what swinging was. Although swinging, as we all know, is a part of the lifestyle, I started to learn that there's this whole other kind of world of lifestyle, and it really is whatever you want it to be. It's, you know, if you just want to be an exhibitionist, if you want to be a voyeur, if you want to, if you want to play with others, if you don't want to play with others, if you want a parallel play, if you want a soft swap, full-slop, threesomes. learn like what all these different terminologies were through your podcast and some others. And it just, it, it started to make more sense. And we really just loved the atmosphere of what that was. And so after, after we went to the green door, like I said, it was probably about

two years later, I had a work trip down in Orlando, Florida. And so I'd happened to look up while we were going to be in Orlando, if there was any, any clubs. or any resorts or anything like that in Orlando. So we end up looking and finding a resort in Kizmi called the Secrets Hideaway. And it was more of a resort where you go and stay, but then it's a lifestyle resort. And in the, you know, it's this hotel that kind of surrounds two big pools. They've got a dungeon. They've got a big playroom.

They've got a big dance area. And it's just a playground for LS. and so we made plans to go to that. And like I said, this is probably two years after we had gone to Las Vegas. We went there and ended up meeting some really great people. And once again, we just fell in love with the people more than anything. Let me ask you this, though. When you went to this resort, did you still have the same rule that you're not going to hook up with anybody?

Yes. So we had the same rule at that resort that we weren't hooking up with anybody. Is this still your idea that you don't want to hook up? maybe your wife is down but you don't want to? I mean, who's stopping the hookups? Kind of mutually, both of us. We both were just taking it slow. One thing that we've learned once again from your podcast and others was don't,

never say never. You get into this and you think that you aren't going to go to a certain, you know, a level, if you will, but in time you never know, because things change so much. And through your, like I say, your show, we learned that you don't say, you never say never. So we went, we did, the planet secrets was, was same thing. We were going to go there. We were going to explore.

We were going to kind of see, we weren't going to play with anybody. We weren't to that point yet. But we were going to go see what it was all about and kind of experience a stay-in resort for the first time. So we went in there, met some great people. That was like I said, where we really. got drawn to the lifestyle and realized that we really do enjoy just the people, the atmosphere and the openness of all the people. Okay, I'm going to tell you about Pika Vibe. They sell sex toys, and I am going to recommend my new favorite sex toy by Pika Vibe. It is called the Flora Pro Licking

Rose Toy, okay? It's not just a rose toy that licks you. It has this thing. attached to it that is small but mighty okay like i promise you i was like what is the small little thing going to do but it vibrates and you put it in at the same time while you're using the licking rose toy and it gives you like the best orgasm that you've ever had okay now if you're a guy listening to this is going to be the best valentine's day gift for your girl get her the flora pro licking rose toy she's not going to be intimidated by it she's going to effing love it because I know a good sex toy when I use one, okay? And I love sex toys. Most girls do, I think, personally. So what are you waiting for? Go get your girl a fun sex toy. They're super

cute, by the way. They're all made with like the highest quality silicone. They're very soft. And like I said, super cute. It'll make a great gift for Valentine's Day. And you're going to get $15 off your purchase. All you got to do is go to pika vibe.com slash strictly. And $15 is going to be automatically applied at checkout. That's picavive.com slash strictly. Go there now. Get your girl or yourself, the Flora Pro licking rose toy. It comes in either pink or red, and you're going to get $15 off.

It's going to be automatically applied at checkout or just go to the description and click on the link. And kind of experience a stay-in resort for the first time. So we went in there, met some great people. that was like I said where we really got drawn to the lifestyle and realized that we really do enjoy the just the people the atmosphere and the openness of all the people so we we went there one of the nights we went into the dungeon we like to to do flogging and my wife is really kind of into BDSM and stuff so we like to do BDSM stuff so we went into the dungeon and did some flogging and and a little bit of rope play that that that That particular Secrets Hideaway is really great in the dungeon. They've got two dungeon masters in there. Plus, they have all the different things in there. It's one of the only dungeons that we've been in where they have different floggers and different whips and things to tie up.

And you can actually have a dungeon master help guide you along if that's something that you're interested in. So that one was a lot of fun going there. And then later on that night, we went over to the playroom. and once again we had a plan going into the playroom that we were going to probably play but mainly we just wanted to go in and sit and kind of watch everything that was going on and inside that playroom you go in and you have to be on you can't have clothes on inside the playroom so you can go in with a towel we got in there and there were so many people that we couldn't find anywhere really to sit other than there was this one bed in the very center of the of the of the play. playroom and there was one corner of that bed that was open it was kind of a four-way like queen bed with like with a divider in between all four beds so if you can imagine it's just this big huge bed with with dividers in it and so we sat down on one of those beds and uh we ended up sitting on the bed well we were probably sitting there for five minutes and next thing i know my wife started going down on me and the plan if you know she took that right out

the window. Next thing I know, we were just going to town. And it was the most erotic, sexy thing. We just, we got lost in our own world. Every once in a while, I would look up and there was probably at least 50 people around us, standing around the bed, just watching us and just watching everything that we're doing. And it's such a euphoric thing to do that because you just kind of flow in and out of of reality. One minute you're you feel like you're the only people in the room. Next minute you kind of pop up and you look around and there's 50 people watching you and it was the most euphoric thing. My wife just loved it. She fell in love with the exhibition, bishonist side of her. That's where we really found that that was her big deal is she likes the exhibitionist. So anyway, so after we left

there, we came home and that was when we started kind of wanting to see what the local scene was. So when we got home, I had had some friends that I knew were kind of in the lifestyle and stuff at home. And so I reached out to him and asked them about the local scene and how do you get into meeting these same people that we met down in Florida on the local scene. So we got back home. They got us on to some Facebook groups and got us into the local scene. And then that was where we started learning about what was going on in our hometown and getting invited to parties, house parties, different things like that, finding out all the people that you never know is walking around you in your local area that there's just tons of LS people all over the place.

The first thing that we did was we got onto a couple of the local Facebook pages, and we ended up finding one of my wife's ex-co-workers was on one of these clubs as well. And so, or one of these pages and they throw a lot of house parties so we ended up messaging them because we knew them and they were throwing a house party so they invited us to go up to their house to house parties so that was our first LS experience we ended up going to several house parties with them and then throughout the summer there's pool parties that people were throwing and different things like that so you just watch the events pages and that's where we just started going to different events and different house parties are you still just sleeping with

each other in front of people at all these house parties or are you actually hooking up with other people no so we're still just we're still just we're still just we're still just doing sleeping with each other now we did end up going to one house party that we went to and and we met a couple of that house party that my wife really my wife has never been really like by but she really kind of fell in love with this one girl and really just just it was it was the cutest thing because She went from not really being interested in any, any by stuff at all to she just got infatuated with this girl. And I felt like I was watching myself at a junior high dance. She just was following this girl around, trying to talk to her and get her attention.

And eventually we got talking to her husband, and he ended up introducing and facilitating, and they ended up just making out that night, not anything more than making out. We have since become really good friends with those people. And so moving along, we ended up from there going to several different clubs. That's kind of become our little thing is traveling around and going to different clubs. We ended up going down to Cancun. And down in Cancun, we ended up meeting a couple down there. And they kind of approached us and asked us to go back to their room for some couple massages.

And so we went back to their room. We got doing some couple massages. They gave me and my wife a couple massage. It kind of started with that. And then it moved over to us having a couple massage with them. We ended up with them having a pretty intense, what we would call what would be a soft swap. Playing, doing oral back and forth, everything but penetration.

We kissed, we made out. we gave, you know, oral. My wife went down on him. His wife went down on me. I went down on her, vice versa. The one downside that ended up happening with that was the guy became very pushy with my wife and kind of got her into some things that she didn't want to do and wasn't real comfortable with. And so after that, after that trip, between that and a couple other things that happened on that trip,

we really kind of took a drawback from doing anything. So for probably about six, eight months, we didn't do a whole lot until until about six, eight months later was when my wife started showing a desire that she wanted to have us do a three-some with a female. And so we got back here, started going to some house parties again, and ended up meeting a girl and started having some conversations with her. We ended up talking, getting on a three-way text and flirting and talking back and forth. We ended up making a plan to go get a hotel one night. We got a hotel and

invited her to come over. And that night when she came over, we ended up doing a threesome with her. My wife had a lot of different ideas of things that she wanted to do. One of the things that she wanted to do was she wanted to have the girl sit in front of her and hold her while I went down on her and gave her oral and just be able to hold the girl and watch her. The thing that we found with that one that was kind of, it was a great experience, but it wasn't the greatest experience was because we had it almost too rehearsed on what we wanted to do. We didn't just let things kind of naturally flow.

We had like this checkbox of things that my wife wanted to have me eat her out while she was holding her. My wife wanted to slide my cock into her pussy. My wife wanted her to give me a blowjob. She wanted her to, we just had this list of things. And so for me, it felt like almost like a job. I hate to say it was enjoyable. But for my first threesome, it was a lot of work because I felt like I was just having to entertain two girls and check all these boxes of this fantasy that my wife had kind of built in her head. Okay.

So that experience happened. great experience but not the greatest about two weeks after that we went up to a local club that we have here in our local state and went to that club they have playrooms things like that didn't really meet anybody but we did end up meeting a girl while we were up there well the girl we got talking to her one thing led to another we went back into her room and we ended up fucking in the room that time it was a lot better threesome with a girl because it wasn't planned number one there was no like check in his boxes it just flowed and truly it went really really well my wife found that she really really when it comes to women likes to kind of be more dominant with women so it was super sexy for me

because my wife got in there and she just started taking control of the whole situation and grabbing the girl's hair telling her what she wanted to do kind of telling me almost what to do. I ended up getting down on the bed. She crawled on top of me and my wife just sat behind her and like talked to her and talked about my dick and how big it is and how does it feel. And I, we were about, we were into it for a while and all of a sudden I looked at my wife and I'm like, I'm going to come. And she looked at me and she goes, do it. Fill her pussy, you know. And like, yeah, it just I never, it was something once again that we had never talked about about, like coming so I was a little concerned that is that going to be a problem or anything like that

so after it happened I asked her like is you know was that was that too much sorry I she's like no I it was great it was the sexiest thing you ever but she just sat behind this girl the whole time as I was she was on top of me right and it was the sexiest thing in the world but that experience was way way better just because it wasn't choreographed it wasn't planned we just went with it right so from there I started wanting to more see my wife with with another guy I've in my past I've had two past marriages and both those marriages ended in cheating and so for me letting my wife especially my wife that I've had a crush on since I was 12 years old be with another guy was very hard to wrap my head around but with the help of your podcast and listen in to other

guy's stories about how sexy it is and how empowering it is to do these, you know, to do a swap with Mel. I started wanting to see my wife with another Mel. So we had started talking. My wife wasn't quite, quite ready to be with another male. So the conversation started a flow. We started talking about how the dynamic work, who she was to be with, so on and so forth. So going back to to this couple that we met about a year, year and a half earlier that my wife was following the female around wanting to kiss her. We became very, very close friends with those individuals. We had played with them soft swap wise back and forth throughout this time. We had, you know, just done soft swaps stuff. But my wife, she said, if I'm going to do anything I want to deal with him,

he was super respectful. He had always just showed me an immense amount of respect, her an immense amount of respect. And so because of that, I felt confident that if she wanted to do it, that's who I felt comfortable with too, because I knew with him if at any point I wanted to say, hey, stop, I'm not okay with this because of my past or whatnot.

He would stop immediately, no questions asked, and there would be no hard feelings. So fast forward a couple of months from when we have the last three, some with the girl. My wife finally says, hey, if it happens, I'm in a position to go all the way. And so we ended up, we, we, we ended up, we do a thing called ABC dating me and my wife do, where you take every other letter. I do A, she does B, she does, I do C, she does. And so we got to N and she had planned a neon light for us and this couple to go out and to their house. And they've got a playroom dungeon down in their bedroom or down in their house sorry and so we had made plans they

had made plans to have us come up they blindfolded me and this other gentleman and they painted us in this in the black lights it was super awesome and then after we kind of did they painted us then we blindfolded them they were in lingerie we painted all them up and then we kind of did a photo shoot and one thing started leading to another and next thing we know we were making out we were all naked just just uh moving closer to doing a full swap and so we had told them that we were okay to do a full swap my thing was is i wanted to be with my wife when she had her first you know when she when she had that experience with him and so we got it set up i was sitting right there with her when he when he started playing with her he first went down on her got her warmed up

I was kissing her lips and playing with her breasts as he was eating her pussy and going down on her. And then slowly he moved up and slid into her. He's super soft, super nice guy, but also has a very big cock. This guy has a huge, like big dick. And slid in, I was able to kiss her and make out with her as he slid in. And then they fucked for a while. I was right there with her and had no feelings, no just other than ecstasy. and love for my wife just couldn't get enough of the feelings that ensued with this.

They made out there. They fucked for a while and then next I turned around and I started making out with his wife. My wife had a phone and was video on us as we turned around and basically did the same thing. And I ended up fucking her and having a great time with her. She's amazing. So that ended up being our first full. swam. Okay, let's get real. Guys, sex drive matters. And the truth is, it can wax and wane depending on what's going on in your life or how you're feeling about yourself at the time.

And that's where VB Health comes into play. Want to boost your sex drive in the bedroom naturally, then you need to try VB Health's Drive Boost. VB Health's Drive Boost. VB Health's Drive Boost is not some sketchy supplement that you get in a gas station. It is a supplement that it is a supplement that is backed by science. Dry boost contains four ingredients that have evidence to support libido, and it is designed to be safe and effective for both men and women. Dry boost contains several ingredients that have been shown to mitigate some symptoms of perimenopause and menopause.

And the good news about dryboos is it starts to work super fast. Some people see results at just two to three days of taking drive boost with most. people seeing full results in just two weeks of daily use. So if you're looking to naturally enhance your libido and sexual desire, then you need to get yourself some drive boost by VB Health. All you got to do is visit vb.com. And use code strictly for 10% off. That's VB.com.

Use code strictly for 10% off. Or just go to the description and click on the link. Couldn't get enough of the feelings that ensued with this. They made out there, they fucked for a while and then next I turned around and I started making out with his wife. My wife had a phone and was video on us as we turned around and basically did the same thing and I ended up fucking her and having a great time with her. She's amazing.

So that ended up being our first. full swap. So after we did the first full swap and got that over, the next thing that I was really interested in was doing a threesome with a mail. Once I knew that I was okay and I love the, the, the, I love to like watch and watching my wife get pleased. And so I really wanted to do a threesome with a male because I love that dynamic and listen and once again to people on your podcast of having of watching everything but i also loved the idea of being with my wife the whole time that everything was happening so we got talking about that she wasn't sure of it at first but after some talking she thought that it was going to be a whole bunch of work for her she she was kind of

confused on on doing a threesome with a mel because she thought that she was going to have to sit and please both me and him non-stop and after i explained to her the dynamic but she just enjoys it and we take control and we please her. It's not her pleasing us. It's us pleasing her. After she understood that dynamic and got her head wrapped around that, then she was really excited to do that. So that happened earlier this year.

We went back down to Las Vegas. So as I stated before, we kind of have made it a point when we go out of town, when we go to different cities, we look at what LS clubs or resorts are in those cities and we try and go visit them. So we visited several in Cancun or a couple in Cancun. We visited a couple in Florida. We've now hit every club that's down in Las Vegas as well.

But while we were down in Las Vegas just recently, I had asked her if we did a threesome with a mill, who she would want to do it with. And going back to those earlier parties that we went to, we went to a bonfire one night and met a gentleman at the bottom. on fire, super nice guy. I didn't think real much of him other than he just was really nice. But later on, after we left that, he sent us a message on Facebook and said, hey, I don't know if you guys are into Mel, you know, threesomes with Mel's, but your wife's super hot. If you ever thought that you guys might want to do something like that, hit me up.

I would love to an opportunity to be with your wife. And it's funny because back then when he sent that, I rolled my eyes and was like, hell no, because I never thought that I would be doing this threesome stuff with guys. Yeah. I just didn't think that I would ever get my mind to be there. I thought doing a swinger with another couple would, because that's me doing stuff and her doing stuff, but really never like giving my wife up to somebody else.

And so we, we, when I asked her who she would want to hook up with, if we did this mail thing, she brought him up. And she said, you know, I have always thought he was cute. like he was super nice and I was like yeah no I could see that I could see that and I said so do you want me to message him no not right now and like I said this literally was like three months ago that this this all started I said okay well let me know when you want me to and I'll send him a message and so we were down in Vegas going to these different clubs and one night after we got done with one of the clubs and playing in front of others and stuff and then we ended up hooking with we we ended up

hooking up with a couple in one of the clubs as well, just doing a soft swap with them. We ended up going back to our hotel room, and I asked her again if she wanted me to message this guy. And she said, yeah, I go ahead and message him. So I messaged him like right there immediately and sent him a message just said, hey, man, I don't know if you're still single or not, but we would love to, we would love to hook up with you and get to know one another if that was something that you're in. to still. So he messaged me right back and said, yeah, I'm, I'm still single and no, I'd love to. I'd love

to get to know you guys better and respect any boundaries that you guys might have. And so we, we ended up having quite a few conversations. I put us on a three-way text message. So while we were down in Las Vegas, we were sending him pictures and, and he was sending us and my wife and him were flirting and talking dirty with each other via text and kind of just set in the mood. And, and, And we ended up talking through that for about a couple of weeks before we were coming back from a trip that we had been down to. We actually went to a friend's friend of ours had a thanksmas that was a big LS. There was over a hundred people at this house party and this thanksmas dinner thing.

And so we were all turned on and aroused because of all the atmosphere that we had been in. Excuse me. And so on our way home, I asked my wife, I said, hey, I'm just throwing it out there, but we don't have anything to do when we get home. What would you think about inviting him over tonight? And she, you know, kind of deer in the headlights looked at me and said, she didn't know. And I just said, oh, I'm just throwing it out there. One thing led to another.

And in the meantime, I had already text him and asked him if he was available, if he was available that night and I already knew that he was available. I said, well, I'm working on her, so I'll let you know. So one thing, after a couple hours, she said, text me and said, yeah, go ahead and see if he's available tonight. And I already knew the answer to that. So I sent him a text message and then we ended up getting home, kind of talked about how we wanted to set up the night and then he ended up coming over.

So when he came over, she just was kind of in some nice, like, lingerie but not really sexy stuff he walked in she immediately walked up gave him a hug and started making out with him we hadn't seen him in several several months and she just immediately like went straight for it and went to him i sat down on the couch and was watching we ended up kind of after that moment we ended up kind of just talking and talking about the night and what we wanted to do and what boundaries were and what the rules kind of were. And then we both sat down on the floor. We had a fire going, had some blankets down on the floor. We sat down, started making out both of us with her. I was on one side. He was on another side. I opened up her shirt, exposed her tits.

My wife has these amazing fake tits and stuff and just like the most perfect nipples you've ever seen. But he was just enthralled and it was so fun to just sit there and watch. you know, I just want you let you know, you're good, wait, this is as to do with your wife's perfect tits that I'm having. The minute we hang up, you're going to get a free link to my Discord, okay, and you could go in there. There's a best boob contest going on right now. You have a couple days to submit her in.

She'll win 150 bucks if she has that grade of tits. There's probably about 250 people on there. And like, I can't tell you how great my listeners, my listeners, tits are. There's so many great picks, but put your wife in there if she's down. But anyway, go on. Sorry. Yeah, I will. No, no, I'll talk to her. I'm sure she will. She loves to show them off.

Yeah, so anyway. So anyway, so we started playing up there and making out, and then we had had our basement kind of more set up with a bed down there and stuff. That's where we decided that if things moved past just kind of making out and things felt comfortable that we were going to move downstairs. So after we kind of sat and made out with her and played with her tits and stuff, she wanted to move it downstairs. So me and him went downstairs, got things kind of set up. And she ended up, she switched out from what she was into some lingerie. She came downstairs, super sexy, just in a really cute, really sexy lingerie set. We ended up starting to make out. She she sat us both down me and him side by side on the couch and pulled both of our pants down.

And man, like, you would think she had done this a hundred times. For somebody that was so scared that didn't know how to how to do it, her thing was at the beginning. She said, okay, at the beginning, I'm going to take control. I'm going to tell you guys what to do. I'm going to tell you where I want you and what I want you to do. But then after, then you guys take control. So like I said, she sat us down on the couch.

She pulled both of our pants down and she just was going back and forth on both of us, giving us blow jobs. And I'm sitting there like rubbing shoulders with this guy that I've never even met. We're just sitting side by side with each other. And I'm sitting there watching my wife go down on him and then come over and go down on me and then go back over to him. Just the sexiest thing. And then she'd come up and make out with me.

I'd make out with her. I would go to lean up and play with. with her finger or pussy and stuff like that while she's sitting there giving him a blowjob and kiss kiss on her and tell her everything was okay. I kept just reminding her that I'm okay, everything's okay just so she felt more comfortable and have the confidence to keep going and stuff. So then, yeah, we after that, we got down on the floor and once again, I was right there when he inserted into my wife started fucking. I enjoyed after we got going and stuff. I sat back on the couch and I just sat and watched them. I just, it was so sexy, the noises and

and the facial expressions and just everything that my wife was doing. And then also, I was loving watching him enjoy her. I could just tell that there was an ecstasy there, if you will, with, with him and her, that he, he just, I could tell he was super attracted to my wife. He still is. And so we, yeah, we, we sat in place. I had my phone and was video on, taking a bunch of pictures and video on everything, and then he would play for a while, and then I'd get on, and I would fuck her and play, and she'd sit and we spit-roasted with her. We, I mean, we did pretty much everything except for that night.

She does want to try DP and DVP, but that night, she's not quite there yet. She hasn't wanted to do that. So fast forward, this was right before Thanksgiving time this year. So fast forward a couple of weeks. We had another date. In fact, it was our actual date that we had lined up for our initial meetup with him. But we had put that forward after we came back from that trip. We had that date still set.

Well, I was looking at our calendars. And the date that we had set was for a work night. And those are always difficult because staying up late and so on and so forth. So we didn't have anything going on Thanksgiving Eve this year. and so I once again I came home I have this kind of way with my wife of just throwing out ideas and I said hey just thinking about it once again I'd already text this gentleman and asked him if he was available for Thanksgiving Eve and I said you know just throwing it out there would you be interested in doing another swap or another play session with with him but I'm doing it on Thanksgiving Eve and at first you know she kind of got caught off guard and said I don't know don't know, let me think about it. And I explained to her why it made more sense. And then one thing led to another and she sent me another text. She's like, yeah, see if he's available. I said, well, I've already checked with him. He's available. And she's like, you keep doing this. And I'm like,

I've got to cover my bases, you know. So we ended up getting a hotel room that night and Thanksgiving Eve and spent, I mean, from he, yeah, from nine o'clock until three in the morning, we he came in same thing she she was dressed up in lingerie when he came into the room she got him pretty much undressed immediately and just we we started doing everything once again we have not done we haven't done spit roast or dvp yet she's like i say she wants to do it but she's just not quite comfortable with it yet and so we're just giving her time until she feels comfortable but we see with him it being kind of a regular thing that we're going to be setting up with him regular hookups but that night yeah we we had the video we had a tripod set up so we got a ton of

video from that night and we we played from nine o'clock till i think two o'clock in the morning and just switching back and forth on the way down there i told my wife i said we're going to fuck you so long and so hard that you're going to beg us to stop. And she kind of rolled her eyes and was like, no way. Well, about 2 o'clock in the morning, she pushed us off of her and said enough, I can't do this anymore. She had orgasm. She had squirt.

She had, I mean, she was empty. Her tank was completely empty. And it was the hottest thing because we would sit there and he would be going down on her. He would be fucking her from behind. I would sit and hold her or kiss her. And every once in a while, you'd see her, she would look over at me. And she was like, I don't know where I was just at. Where was I at?

And I, you know, I'm like, you're right here with us. But, and she goes, I, this is like so euphoric. I, I just keep losing my mind and like going out. I'm not here anymore. And then she comes back. She's like the pleasure of my body and just having all these hands and, you know, grabbing you, your cock and grabbing his cock and just back and forth. she yeah she just said i i i just keep going like to another world and stuff we're actually listening

the one year episodes last night are on the way we we have a cabin a property that's about two and a half hours away from where we live and we're we're out here right now and it's kind of our little pleasure palace if you will but we've always done this and it's something that i i've loved about your podcasts is we put your podcasts on when we're driving out here and it's been a ritual of me and her that we listen to your podcasts and people on your podcast. And then when it gets to something that we're unsure of or that it's like, oh, that sounds hot or whatever, we'll pause it. Like she'll pause it or I'll pause it.

And then it's like, what do you think about that? Or what would you do? Like you had one episode of a guy that he, they started doing like a hot wife thing. And I remember he, they were doing doing a scene. his wife was down giving her a blow, giving this guy a blow job and he was down there like kissing on her cheek while she was giving him a blowjob and he said that she pulled his dick out and turned it over

and made him suck that guy's dick. And my wife immediately, and I knew she was going to do it, she immediately hit pause and she's like, so what do you think about that? Would you do that? And I was like, if it turned you on and if it was as odd as what it made that couple's situation, I can't say that I probably would. But I said, to me, it's not, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm not into guys.

I don't, I don't have any buy tendencies. I don't have anything. But I'm all about what's sexy and what turns her on. And so I said, you know, I, I've never thought about it. But as I was listening to this episode, just like we do, I was asking myself the same thing. And I knew you're going to hit pause and ask me. And, you know, and I said, if it was something that turned you on, I, probably in the moment would say that I would do it.

I mean, it's kind of like my wife. When she first started with girls, she only wanted to kiss them, make out. She said she'd never go down on a girl. We weren't in the lifestyle for very long before we had a, you know, we were doing a couple swap, or a soft swap. And she was sitting there making out with the girl. The girl was making out with her. And then all of a sudden she turned to me and she's like, I want to go down on her.

I want to eat her pussy. Right. And I was like, what? You know, and she's like, yeah, and I'm like, okay, go for it. So she went down on the girl. Well, then after we left, we always debrief after we get done, you know. And so we leave driving home. And I'm like, so what was that all about?

You said you'd never do that. She's like, I don't know. It overwhelmed me in the moment. And I knew that it'd turn you on and I wanted to turn you on. And so I just kind of decided to do it. And I'm like, well, how was it? And she's like, you know, it wasn't bad. Like I enjoyed it.

She goes, more than anything, I loved watching your face because you were, because I just caught me so off guard. But, but yeah, it, that's one of the things that we've loved, like I said, about your podcast is we drive and then we get pause and we've,

there have been so many, so many episodes that you've done, Kathy, that it has helped us to learn who we are and what we want. And because we listen to your episodes and we pause and we stop. And then we look at each other and it's like, what do you think about that? Oh, man,

I'd never do that, you know? And so then we have a talk about that. Well, why would you never, you say you'd never do that, never say never, but why? And so I just got to thank you so much for putting out this content and great content like you do because it allows people that started from nothing, knowing nothing, to have those conversations. And I encourage other people to listen to your podcast, but pause it. When you're listening with your spouse or your partner especially, pause the podcast, when you hear

something and ask. Just ask the question because your podcast promotes so many different conversation and has for us because we've never thought about a lot of the things that other people think about and then we hear it on your podcast and allows us to push pause and go, what do you think about that? And we've actually wanted to do some things because of things that we've heard on your podcast. Isn't it interesting? I love that. And you know, now people are going to do it to you. And I have to say, like I was going to do like a end of the year review of my show like what's new, what's coming up, blah, blah, blah. And like, one of the things I was going to mention on that is, like, what I have seen as a trend, especially this year and maybe a little bit of last year,

is like so many couples writing in, talking about how they're listening to the show. And I've been doing my show for like 11 years. And back in the day, 11 years ago, couples weren't listening to my show. Like, it was just a very different world. You know, I've seen things change. And nowadays, so many couples are turning to podcasts, not just mine, all of the podcasts out there, you know, to become educated in all this kind of stuff. And I can't tell you how many people are like, oh, because of your podcast, we did this and that and whatever. And I'm like, oh, my God, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

But what I love is that it is teaching people. You know what I mean? And you're going to teach people now, too. I think it's amazing. And you know the amount of people, Kathy, that we have shared your podcast with. Oh, I love that. Thank you. We constantly tell people strictly anonymous.

Like, we listen to other podcasts, but yours has the most amount of information, the most sexy stories the most interesting situations and like we i mean we we we came out to our cabin a couple of weeks ago and that one couple that we've done the full swap with they came out here with us and we were listening to a podcast on the way out and we paused it four or five times well we ended up talking to them and i don't remember what was on that podcast about what what we had talked about and so he downloaded it while we were here and then they went home a day early and then they went home a day leaving us and he's like we're going to listen to the podcast on the way home because we want to talk about but the other thing that i and i i i got we the only we've got to give you credit for this too is

you know when we got into this it was funny because we'd go to these house parties like i told you and people were the the amount of people that we talked to that said that they were intimidated by us and we were like why why are you intimidated and they said because you guys just represented that you guys were these like long-time LS couple like when we would tell people that we were in newbies like seriously like the first three or four house parties we went to we these these people they we'd get to know them and they were they would tell us afterwards that they were intimidated and they were scared to come talk to us because they thought that we were these like long-time LS people and so we were they were intimidated by us because they were maybe new and then when we'd tell them how long we'd

been in the lifestyle. I don't know how many people were like, how long you've been in the lifestyle and we're like, oh, like three months. I mean, locally here, you know, but, but yeah, like serious about it, three, four months and they're like, no way. Like, you guys represent that you guys have been in this, like, that you're like veterans. And the only thing that I can accredit to, Kathy, is listening to your podcast, listening to the etiquette, you know, you had the proper etiquette, when you're in house parties, when you're in clubs, consent, respect, like, just all the things that we've heard, we felt like the when we went in. And it was funny because we'd be there and we'd listen to people or guys would come up

and approach my wife and get touching my wife. And it's like, dude, go listen to some freaking podcasts. Like you know, like learn. You know, like learn. Like you're not supposed to touch her. You're not supposed to, like you didn't ask for consent. You didn't ask permission. Like this is 101.

And we really felt like that we were like just these veteran LS couple and people thought that we were because of listening to podcasts. and understanding, and mainly your podcast, like understanding the proper etiquette of being at these house parties and being at resorts and clubs and things like that. Like, it just was amazing that way. And then, you know, doing that, my wife loves that first, when the exhibitionist thing and Secrets Highway, I was going to comment that after my wife and me, we would walk around, we were there for like three days and we'd walk around people.

recognize us. They're like, you guys were the ones that were in the playroom. Oh, man. You guys were so fucking sexy. You know, and we had couples like asking us left and right to hook up with us that trip because it just, it was so, it was just the compliments of people being able to watch. And we get it all the time. People watch me and my wife play. And they just, they, we have people all the time coming up saying, you guys are the sexiest couple. And we feel like we are, but we have a passion, we have a drive, we have a one another that is just unbreakable. What we've been through together and what we've been through not together and knowing each other as long as we have. When we, like, we have sex, it goes for a long time.

In fact, I want a funny story back to that first threesome with the girl that we had. So me and my wife, it's not uncommon for me and my wife to go for three, four, five hours of having sex. Like we, we, it's kind of more of a marathon. That girl, that first night that we were with her, we were fucking, we were doing all sorts of stuff. And it was funny. She came in after she went, she's like, hey, do you guys mind if I go to bed? Like, I can't keep going like this. I've come so many times that I can't. Me and my wife were just like, yeah, sure, that's fine. And she's like, you guys are animals. Like, I can't believe this. And she went off and went to bed and me and my wife kept fucking. But that wreck, you know, and getting that reclaiming sex and stuff. I mean, that's what I told my

wife. That's why I do this. It's not so that I can be with another man, woman. It's not so you can be with another man. It has nothing to do with any of those. I do this because that reclaiming sex is the most like erotic, sensual, sexy stuff. And we thought that we loved each other before with our history and everything that we have. And this lifestyle has just driven us further and further together and made our our relationship just so much more solid, so much more solid. Isn't that so interesting? because I say it like ad nauseum on my podcast, but it's fucking true. And I'm like, that's why I wanted to get my book out there to let more people who don't listen to podcasts know. The truth is opposite of what most vanilla people think, right? Like you guys are educated now. You're in the lifestyle. You were educating yourself before. But like what most people know that don't have never listened to my podcast or anyone and what they believe. And I hear it all the time is that like the minute you open up your relationship is doomed for failure. You know what I mean? But I've literally talked to over 1,300 people. people, okay? And it's not, and that's not the truth. And that's what people need to know. And that's what's so like twisted out there in the regular world. And that's all my show is here to say, not that

everyone should do this. You know, I don't give a fuck what you do, right? Like some people are monogamous, do whatever the fuck you want. But don't judge people that do this and assume that it's doomed for failure because it's not. And that's what I think people don't know. And that's what I think is super interesting for people to get, you know, besides what you guys got, which was the education. That's why I love newbie stories on. That's why I do my how-toes and not what not to do and my swinger gone wrong stories. And I'll put it all out there because I do always believe that people are listening to learn. You know what I mean?

That's what I'm getting out of it too. So it's just like I always think that that's like super important. And I love your story. And I love that you called it. And now people are going to be, you know, maybe pausing and talking more about stuff, couples that are listening because you just gave them that idea. I think it's like super interesting the way you guys communicate with each other, you know? and everything. Yeah, well, it definitely opens that dynamic.

And I, of communicating and gives you ideas that you wouldn't think of otherwise, you know. Yeah. I am. I told you, like, back in the past, I was anti-swinger because what's called swinger, not lifestyle, right? But I had some friends that they lost their marriages over this stuff. But, you know, but they had problems in their marriage before. Like, if your marriage is not solid, this is not, definitely is not the solution.

but if your marriage is solid and you want to enhance your marriage and your, you know, your life with each other, it, like, I'm a big proponent of it anymore. And if anything else is the people. There's just something about the people that are in the lifestyle that you can, you just, you can, it's so much more free. I sent a text to one of our group, you know, one of our friends other day and she made a comment. and we're on a four way with her husband and mine. And she made a comment and I would something about, you know, her tits or whatever. And I said, prove it. Next thing I know, she's sending me pictures of her tits. And I just messaged and I'm like, you know, how cool is it that I can, like, we can, we can have fun.

We can flirt. We can joke around. Our husbands, our wives are all on this same text thread. Like, where do you get to do this? Like me and my wife all the time. We, we've been to Cancun. Like I said, we've been to all these different resorts and I can't tell you, Kathy, how many times

we sit there and we're like, is this really our fucking life? Like, is this really our fucking life? We get to sit here and there's naked people everywhere and we feel sexy. Like, just where do you get to do this? Where do you get to sit and have sex

and watch, have people watch. And not only that, do that with somebody that you really care about. That's what like, listen, any single person could go out and fuck whoever they want and sex is like out there for whatever. But the fact that you're doing it within a very, you know, loving relationship and you guys care about each other. And this has only brought you closer. That's the most interesting part of things, right? And that's what I think most people don't get and are twisted. And, you know, I mean, listen, you've talked about how so many people

think that you guys are the hottest things when you go to the clubs and stuff. So if you don't mind, and I know your wife knows you're calling in because she's also going to call in. I really want to talk to your wife. I would love to talk to her and get her whole story alone. If you want to send in Picks, anonymous picks, like hot, sexy picks if you want for Patreon, send me those sooner than later. You will get free access to my Discord where you could post away and do whatever over there. I post on Patreon, and I always say I only do R-rated on Patreon. But my Discord is not safe for work. It's all locked down and something where you could go in there and post. Like I said, post your wife for the best boob contest. I have contests on there. There's like 6,000 people

registered on there, so you'll have fun in there. But if you want to send me picks of your wife, definitely do that. Send to me via email, okay? Okay, okay, no, we do, and yeah, thanks. It was great to talk to you. It's funny, it's cool to, I've listened to you for hours and hours and hours to actually talk to you. Yeah, there was a couple of weeks ago that we were listening, and I'm like, I'm thinking about calling in to Kathy and sharing our story. What do you think?

And she, you know, she's like, really? And I'm like, yeah, it'd be fun to talk to her, you know. is you know sometimes listening to you you know you're you can definitely tell that New York side of you and sometimes I mean it's funny sometimes my wife is like gosh

Kathy's being me I remember this one girl I don't call it mean I call it honor I know it is and you do and it is and that's what I call it too is honest but yeah you were getting after this one lady she was talking and she was just like

yeah we we hooked up with this person and that person you're like listen I got to feel an hour worth it Oh yeah, wait, but you want me tell you about that one? That was a mistake. By the way, that was one that I forgot to edit it. Like I posted the wrong version, not the edited one, the unedited. And she was like a person who had called in previously.

And we ended up fine, but somebody was like, oh my God, I heard you talking. It's like, sorry, when I edited it out, like, and I'll edit stuff out of your episode, I'm doing it to make my caller sound interesting and make them the best. Not, you know what I mean? To actually do them a service. And of course, I edit that shit out typically. but I posted the wrong one. Poor lady.

Poor lady. Yes. She's like, she's like, she's like, she needs to calm now. Maybe I'm scared to call in and talk to her.

But we love you. Like we seriously, it's so fun. I'll be nice. I'll tell her. Yeah. No, I,

yeah. I mean, you know what people don't understand? The truth is I typically am taping two people a day every single day.

I do every single thing for my podcast. I edit it. I tape it. I post it. I write the thing. the things. I don't have one person working for me. I take care of my Patreon. I have 2,500 people there. I take care of my Discord. I have 6,000 people there. So, you know, once in a while,

maybe I'll be a little bit more crabby than another day because, like, I don't have a day off. Okay. So, but don't worry. I'll be nice to your wife. And I'll edit your episode good too, and you'll see. Yeah. No, I'll, I will. And then, yeah, I'm not even opposed to it. Maybe a couple of years from now we can call in again. And because I just, I love the education side that you offer. And that's what I want. I love that. You love that. because that to me is the most important part. I'm always like, yeah, I guess, you know, I like people to, like, get Woody's for my show.

Like, that's fine, but that's not my purpose for doing my show. You know what I mean? Like, this is important. This is to educate people and people to learn, people who are curious or people who want to get involved. And that's really what I'm here dishing out. And I love that you take that for my show and you get that. You know what I mean?

And you understand. Because you listen. I think if you look at the titles and people just look at the titles, like, oh, dirty sex show, whatever. But not really, not if you fucking listen to my show. Like, I'm educating people. and helping people, I believe that. You know, and I love that you get that.

So thank you. What do we call you, Trevor? Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you for running this call so easily. You make my job easy. I'm going to edit a lot out of the beginning, so it sounds seamless. And get your wife to book her time, okay? Use the same link.

I will. Okay. Thanks, Trevor. Thanks so much for calling in. Bye. We'll see you. Okay, bye-bye. Bye.

Okay. Okay. Okay, that was the end of those questions. We have more coming up. so stay tuned. I'll probably air the next few episodes next Sunday. Thanks so much for tuning in. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback

and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it,

I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels.

We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.

That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the strictly anonymous podcast.