Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1338 - Jake is Into Panties

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Jake is into wearing panties and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including when he first realized he was into panties and what led to him wearing them, when and how ...he stated stealing panties and how he got caught, how and why he was sent to therapy and why it didn’t help him, his thoughts on his gender and sexual identity early on, his attraction to men and how he identifies with it, his first gf and how he old her about his panty fetish and how she reacted, his current gf and how she feels about his fetish, the other female garments he wears now and how frequently he wears, how he bright up chastity and cuckolding with his current gf recently and how she reacted, where he thinks his cuckolding fantasies came from plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off DRIVE Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:25 But anyway, today I have on Jake. I love Jake's story. He is very into panties and underwear, female panties. He did say in the beginning, I'm not the typical guy that's into panties, but he is. I mean, I don't know because he was thought the typical guy is the guy who sniffs panties. I don't have a lot of panty sniffers on my show. If you're a panty sniffer, call in because I don't have many of those kind of panty guys on. He's a guy that's into panties that I've talked to before.
Starting point is 00:02:50 He likes to wear them. but of course his story is super unique. He got busted a lot of times when he was younger. We talk a lot about that in the beginning of the show. You know, of course we go all the way back and talk about when he first realized he was into Pandy's. He crushed us a little bit. He talks about why and how that all came to be when he was young. He does talk about getting caught at home, then getting caught at school.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, my God. And then what they did and how traumatizing it was. That's a whole story in itself. It's super interesting. but the interesting part of the story is it does come full circle because sort of the trauma of everything that he went through when he was younger has made him like as an adult he's still super young he's like only 32 but as an adult when he started dating girls because of everything that happened to him he was always super honest about his fetish with all the girls and he talks about
Starting point is 00:03:37 that when he would bring it up to the girls how they would react he's currently in a long-term relationship with a girl he talks about telling her how she reacted how they sort of play it out in their relationship he's into guys um and We talk a little bit about that when he was like younger when he thought he was gay. He is into guys. We talk about that, him trying to figure out a sexual identity. And he's also like looking to get his girl into hot wafing for him. He bit together a while.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We talk about that at the end. So it's super interesting episode. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Jake. Hey, Jake. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Pretty good. How are you, Kathy?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Good. You say. Okay, listen, I've been doing my fetish episodes for like 10 years, 11 years, 12 years right now. you have like an underwear obsession and a non-typical panty fetish, which you said, which is so interesting to me. What is a non-typical panty fetish? That's my first question. I'm dying to know. So for me, typically when people hear about a panty fetish, their first thought might be going to sniffing panties and stuff like that. No, I, well, you want me to tell you what I think of panty fetish is, is wearing them and looking at yourself dressed in them and feeling.
Starting point is 00:04:49 them on you and, you know, like how it makes you feel and wearing them. Not, I think it's not typical when people sniff them. That's the more extreme. I don't typically hear from people that are smelling the panties. I'm typically hearing from people that are wearing them. What are you doing? I'm just wearing them. Okay. You're the more typical, by the way. It's the opposite of what you think. You're the typical panty fetish guy. Maybe listen, maybe when you go Googling, right, in the deep dark web, you find all the panty sniffers. But I don't get them so much on my show, I'll tell you that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Gotcha. Yeah, I just think generally when I, like you say, when you look it up or whatnot, that's probably the majority of things that come up. Really? That's what I think, anyway. But yeah, that's like typical that you find that online, but I talk mostly to people who just wear. You're also into cross-dressing, right?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Like, you do wear more than panties. Was panties like your gateway drug into cross-dressing? yeah for sure yeah hopefully it was now listen Jake you sound super young can I get a snapshot of where you're at now and then we're going to go all the way back and get your whole life story like how old are you now and are you in a relationship so yeah I am 32 years old and I am in a relationship okay and how long you been with it are you in a relationship with a woman I am yes okay how long you've been in together for five years now okay does she know about your fetish? She does, yes. Oh, good. Okay, so we'll get that whole story when we work up to you meeting your girl. But let's go all the way back if we should go all the way back. I'm assuming you realized you were like I had an obsession with underwear and panties when you were super young. I don't know. You tell me.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, actually, pretty young is when it all started. I would say probably, I was thinking about this the other day and I want to say probably between the ages of six and eight. What was that first memory that stands out to you when you think back? Well, I have two sisters and two brothers. So for me, it was a pretty typical intro into it, playing dress up with my sisters when I was younger. Yeah, that happens, right? I dressed my brother up. We dressed him up in a tutu. So they put you up, did they dress you up in panties or did that come later?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Like, I mean, do you remember what they put you? Is that like your first memory of being dressed up as a girl and you liking it? Yeah. So I remember it was never panties from what I can remember playing dress up. But it was back then, I remember it being like a silk dress or like a very silky or soft dress. And that's like what panties are made out of, right? Yeah, it's a sense. So for me, I've like really tried to.
Starting point is 00:07:48 dive dive into what this is for me and where it stemmed from and why it is the way it is for me. And it's definitely part of it is sensory for sure, which is pretty common. Yeah, a lot of times it starts that way. And then I think it turns sexual a lot of the times because of like the age that people are playing around with it. And like you're dick when you're really little. Like it's hard for no reason. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Like constantly. And what happens is if you're thinking about all this stuff and all during those formative years, everything gets tied in together, right? That's what I think. But I'm no therapist or scientist or anything. Right. So, and but I do typically hear, because listen, you're super young. You're not even a sexualized being at this point, right? But you do like the feel of the fabric. And a lot of times that's the same thing for hosers, guys who like pantyhose and stuff. You know, it is a sensory thing for sure. So you remember wearing a dress that felt really like silky. Right. Okay. So how? And so how? how did it progress? Tell me where you went from there. So I know there was a couple instances
Starting point is 00:08:53 that probably curiosity killed the cat type of deal where I, you know, I had access to things like underwear and stuff like that. And so I think I tried on my sister's panties at one point and really enjoyed it. I don't remember if I got caught when I was that young. I possibly did. But that's kind of where it started, it was like, I really like this. Like, and I had no idea what it was going to, yeah, and I had no idea what it was going to develop into. Right. It was just a matter of like being impulsive at that age, right? Like you saw them, you put them on, you loved it. And then you continue to go back and steal your sister's panties and wear them. The sisters thing wasn't a common thing. I know I tried it, but I also at that age, I was like, yeah, this isn't right, you know, but there was still that, impulsivity that was like craving it. So where'd you get your panties when you were young if you
Starting point is 00:09:50 weren't taking them from your sister? So I was, but that's just kind of how it started. And then I kind of there was an instance with our, with our neighbor. We lived out in the country, kind of. And there was a, I would play with the neighbor, neighbor girl. And we had like a woods between our house. I don't know why this happened, but this, there was an instance where we were in the woods. It wasn't sexual. We were very, very young and, you know, and playing around. Shit goes happens all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And so we ended up swapping underwear for some reason. Like, I think we saw each other's underwear or we showed each other like, hey, look at my underwear. You know, just kid stuff, whatever. And so she put mine on. I put hers on.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And that kind of like accelerated that excitement for me. Right. Okay. There goes your panties again. It's all related. I mean, it's like you can't get away from them. Yeah. And like I said, I mean, it just spiraled from the young age.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Okay. So tell me how it spiraled. So, you know, getting into my middle school years and I began stealing them. I mean, wherever I could get them, wherever. I mean. Like when you would go over a friend's house, their sisters, their mother, like that kind of shit? So never from my mother. That was one thing.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And I don't know why, but I think it was just like one of those things where you're like, I'm not willing to cross that boundary. But sisters and being as that we lived out in the country where I lived at, a lot of people didn't lock their doors. And this is, again, a while. back. So it's not like it is nowadays where you really do have to be more secure and stuff like that. So I would actually, there was instances where I would go into the neighbors, not the one that I told you about previously, but the neighbor on the other side who was a woman, not a child. And I went into their house and went through a panty drawer and took panties. Oh my God. You were like a fucking cat burglar?
Starting point is 00:12:10 Basically, yeah. How old were you at that time? Teenagers? Probably like, I want to say like 12, maybe 12, 13, 14. Right. Oh my God. Did you ever get caught stealing these things from people's houses? I mean, you're in their house not even, you're not even supposed to be in their house. So, fortunate enough for me, I never got caught in people's houses, like neighbors and stuff like that. That could have gone really badly. so I did not get caught in those instances, but throughout my life I have been caught for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Doing what? I mean, you get older and you still, that's the problem with like when you're little. Like, I mean, did you get wired into like getting off on stealing them and being in people's houses when they're not along? And then that became like a thing for you because typically I understand a young kid doing something like that because there's no other way for them to get their hands on it. Right. but when you're older and you can get your hands on panties very easily through Amazon, you know what I mean, anywhere. It's like it's super easy to get them. You shouldn't be stealing them anymore, but did you get off on sealing them and you continue to steal them?
Starting point is 00:13:20 So yeah, I think there was a part of it was definitely a rush from doing that when you were younger. Stealing them. I mean, like absolutely. I think there was a rush there. And then the benefit was the panties, you know, stuff like that. I'm fortunate enough to say that that is no. no longer the case and it has not been the case for a long time. Thank God. Because if that was the case, we'd have a fucking therapy session because I don't
Starting point is 00:13:44 like non-consensual stuff, right? Like that's non-consensual. And that would not be cool. And you would need serious help if that was a thing. Like I said, I understand a lot of times a lot of young kids when they're younger and they have a fetish because there's no other way to get their hand on it. That's what they do. You actually worked through that. There was a rush for you. You did steal for a while, but you got out of that phase is what you're saying. yes for sure it was definitely an accessibility type of thing okay let's get real guys sex drive matters and the truth is it can wax and wane depending on what's going on in your life or how you're feeling about yourself at the time and that's where vb health comes into play want to boost your sex drive in the bedroom naturally
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Starting point is 00:16:17 But I definitely ended up getting caught at some points. And then things kind of changed from there. But like my mom would do room checks every once in a while. No, no, no, but you need to tell me what, how you got caught, what you got caught with, who was there to pick you up, what your parents said. I need that. information. So I didn't get caught by the stores. I actually got them out of the stores, brought them home, had them like in my stuff, probably hid him like in a pillowcase or under the bed or something like that, you know? And I was kind of a naughty kid, you know, when I was younger. So my parents would sometimes do like room checks as parents do sometimes. Well, I guess if they don't trust you, I don't do room checks on my son. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Well, I wasn't a very, obviously I wasn't a very trustful. Something. Yeah. For some reason, your parents knew you might be hiding shit. So that's kind of how I got caught for the first time. I wasn't wearing them or anything like that. But what did they catch you? They caught you like a bunch of, a bag of undies, girls, undies?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, they definitely, yeah, they probably found, I probably not a bag, but they found panties in the room and stuff like that and ask me where I got them and you know I told them you know because I would throw throw them away too and get rid of them because I was very nervous as a as a kid of like getting caught in just the whole you knew it was wrong this isn't right you know like wearing girls panties isn't right as a boy and and stuff like that so I was kind of in like in spouts of shame and I would get rid of them and then you know want that urge again and then I'd steal them And so they just found panties in the room. My mom did.
Starting point is 00:18:08 What was that conversation like with your mother? Well, very nerve-wrecking, you know. She probably didn't know what to think, honestly, as probably most mothers wouldn't. And she just, you know, asked where I got them. And I know there was an instance where I stole them from a store and she was threatening to like make me, go return, bring them back to the store.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Wait, so there was other, and she found your panties numerous times. Yes. Oh my God. She must have been like, what's fucking going on? Okay, so after the first time, she continued to check and you, of course, you couldn't control it because this is like your fetish. You can't stop and she keeps catching you. And did she ever, like, send you to therapy or did she ever tell your father?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like, what was the, like, what were the conversations like after she caught you numerous times? Um, so it kind of on her end, she definitely knew there was an issue, right? And we didn't have any like super serious conversations, but I don't, I just think she didn't really know what to do, you know, as a parent. It was never like a huge conversation. And it'll come up later in the story as my story progresses into high school and getting caught more and stuff like that were. Okay, we'll go there. Okay, go there. So in high school, fetish didn't stop. It's not going to. So I was still stealing underwear in any way that I could really. And I was in like the special ed class. So I had a lot of like adults, authoritative figures in my life. So why were you in the special ed classes? Were you just bad and unruly? Were you ADHD? ADHD, stuff like that. So I had an IEP and stuff like that. So I had a lot of adults in my realm. I was always surrounded by people. They were always seeing what I was doing. So it got really difficult to kind of hide this. And essentially my parent, my mom got in contact with the school because she was concerned. And I had like a caseworker and stuff like that. So she was looking for resources, I think. And for me, that was super. embarrassing because, you know, it's one thing for your parents to find out, but for, like, school faculty to find out. I didn't know she told them. Did they come to you and say something?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yes, because we had to sit down from an incident at school where I had taken, so there was the theater class or whatever, and the theater department was throwing a bunch of old stuff away, like costumes and whatnot. And they were in the dumpster in a bag and I had taken like a cheerleader outfit out of there and snuck it. And of course it has like a built in panty and stuff like that. So it was really exciting to me. I couldn't wait to get home and try it on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And stuff like that. And so I got caught actually from staff at school. I don't remember the exact situation, but I did get caught. And so that opened that communication between my parents and the school. So they were all on the same page. They knew there was a problem. Something was going on here that needed to be dealt with. How'd they deal with it?
Starting point is 00:21:38 In a pretty traumatic way, I did get sent to sex therapy. So here's the reason I say that, because for me, although I knew it was wrong, I just felt like it's just underwear and I thought that's what the focal point was. I thought it was like, oh, you know, but it was a mixture of like this, this, the stealing and the underwear itself. And so for me, that was traumatic. And partly because I was, I thought it was a bit extreme at the time for them to put me in, it was a group therapy, mind you.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It wasn't a one-on-one. So I was in a group therapy. Like one-on-one. And I was in a group with people who molested their cousins and sex offenders, okay? And I think that's what really traumatized me. Of course. It's a group of males my age. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And I'm in there because I'm wearing panties. How embarrassing, you know? Yeah. In retrospect, there's a lot of horrible things going on in there. And it's supposed to be meant for like an open discussion type of thing. But you kind of go around like, you know, tell why you're there. like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, that's all those rooms are. So yeah, I mean, it was, it was definitely a very tremendous. Did you actually speak up about it? I did. I mean, I didn't, I talked about it in the group, you know, and there wasn't really much to say. I mean, it's just what it is. It's, I have a panty fetish, and I steal them, and I get a rush from it. And, you know, as I was in my teenage years, it became kind of like a more of a sexual thing.
Starting point is 00:23:21 But it's not always a sexual thing for me nowadays. but back then it was very sexually charged now. So I did talk about it, but there really wasn't too much to go into. Plus, in those kinds of group situations, no one really helps. It's not like talk therapy. It's not one-on-one therapy. So no one really, it's just a matter of like, you know, releasing what you have to say and talking about it.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Nobody actually helps you, right? It's just everyone. Then the next person talks about their problem, right? Yeah. And so I don't think that it was beneficial to me other than try. it was more traumatizing than anything. I had been a one-on-one session. I do think there could have been some good things that would have came from that
Starting point is 00:24:02 or at least more understanding at a younger age and stuff like that, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, it makes sense why it was, it was the opposite of what it should have been. It wasn't, it wasn't right to send you to the group thing. Maybe your parents didn't, listen, unfortunately, like actual one-on-one therapy happens to be very expensive on a weekly basis. A lot of people can't afford it. I don't know how your parents were at that time, but like maybe they couldn't afford one-on-one therapy, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:26 Sometimes it's like very expensive. Insurance doesn't cover it and maybe, and those group things tend to be like free sometimes, you know, and stuff like that. But that wasn't the right place for you, unfortunately. Listen, I think their intention was in the right place. Like they wanted you to get help, but that, of course, didn't help you. So, all right. So now you're like traumatized. You're in high school.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Continue on. Because eventually you meet your girl. You've been with your girl for a while, right? Right. Well, I've had a lot of girlfriends since the end of high school or in high school. Okay. In high school, I never really dated anybody. I was kind of an odd duck out.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Understandably, I just, I was different and I knew that. I was struggling with, as many teenagers do, you know, sexual orientation, just identity in general. And for me, a part of it was like a gender identity, you know, learning about all these things, you know. What were your thoughts about yourself when it came to your gender identity? Well, I just always felt a lot more feminine and I also connected with the girls a lot more. And I just felt more comfortable being friends with girls and, you know, the stuff they were
Starting point is 00:25:44 talking about and their interests were like interesting to me. and I wasn't like a masculine macho alpha. So I never really fit in. And I went into, I went to school in like a smallish town. It was a K through 12. So it was like all in one building. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Same people. Everybody knew everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you want, you were wondering, because here you are wearing panties.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I mean, you know what's so hard about this kind of stuff for people? It's like you're sitting with all of this yourself. You know what I mean? With this little brain that's not even formed yet, really. Even if you're 16.
Starting point is 00:26:18 teen, it's still not fully formed. Do you know what I mean? So how do you like put it all together? It's like very confusing for any 16 year old, 17 year old, 20 year old, you know? Absolutely. Yeah. So you're, now what about your sexuality, like your sexual identity, were you into, did you know you were into women? Obviously you're into women.
Starting point is 00:26:37 You're into women. Did you feel like you were maybe interested in men when you wore panties because you were more feminine? Like what was going on in that part of your life? So that was. the struggle was. I was like, I'm definitely attracted to women, but I also kind of am attracted to guys, you know? Right. And at one point, I had this best friend in high school and we were really close, but I started to kind of feel attracted to. I mean, we hung out all the time. He was a very good looking guy. Uh-huh. And there was curiosities there, you know, like being attracted. I thought, well, am I gay? Like, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:27:18 didn't really know in there. I just remember one day, I, I, like, told him I was gay, you know, because I truly thought I was like, well, there's no other way, you know, like, yeah, people call, people call me gay because the way I dress, like, you know, I would wear skinny jeans, flip-flops, like, kind of feminine, like, dressing. Yeah. And that was just kind of what I was comfortable in. So people, but he would, he didn't pay no matter that. He was my best friend. He was, you know, whatever. We had that connection. But I just remember telling, him that and after that day like he dropped me off and he like just dropped me as a friend and oh wow that devastated me greatly and kind of really fucked me up i mean listen you would see him at
Starting point is 00:28:07 school i'm assuming right because you're in the small town and stuff would he just like ignore you yeah just straight up straight up ignore me wow do you know if he's gay now himself it was just weird Because I really wondered to myself, like, why would, like, that guy care so much? Maybe he was gay and he didn't want to fake. I don't know. So he was actually, he actually isn't. I mean, maybe he is, but he is married to a woman now. But he kind of was like, you could maybe think he was, because he was really well-dressed.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He was just a very attractive person. And, like, there was definitely people who thought he was gay, right? Yeah. But so maybe like now looking back at it, maybe he like tried to distance my himself from me. I mean, it wasn't like I outed myself to everybody and said I was gay. It was just like I can invited my. No, but he didn't want to be, listen, if he was on if he was like on the verge of being called to gay himself, the last thing he needs is a gay best friend. You know what I'm saying? And you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. That was probably like, oh my God, I got to get away from this, you know? It's sad. It's terrible being a kid because kids were all so mean to each. other at that time of our lives because we care so much about what other people think, you know, like, right. I think there was other factors too. Like, you know, we lived in a small town. So it was kind of a very conservative.
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Starting point is 00:31:05 And you're going to get $15 off. It's going to be automatically applied at checkout or just go to the description and click on the link. We lived in a small town. So it was kind of a very conservative. So, like, you know, what would his parents think if his friend was gay? Yeah, it's really loaded. I mean, listen, I think it's really... Yeah, I think it's really interesting that you felt so comfortable enough to tell him.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It's sad that he didn't receive it. And what does that do for you about, like, your sort of feelings about being gay? Does that get shoved down because you're, like, lost your friend over it? Like, how do you feel about your sexual identity after that experience? I was just kind of like, well, maybe I'm not gay because that didn't go. well, you know. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't be gay. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and as, I mean, as it is nowadays, like, I am bisexual or pansexual. I can't really, I kind of, it's like in between that. Because when I was younger, the pansexual term wasn't really coined yet. So I just was bisexual because I'm attracted both males and females. But I didn't figure that out until, like, after high school, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah. But who do you want to date, like, as far as romantic relationships? with both men and women or just women? I think just women. I've definitely thought about dating guys. Never have. I just, yeah, I've definitely been in more hetero relationships. But you're sexually attracted to both men and women?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. Are you attracted to men even when you're not wearing panties? Or is it just a thing when you are like in your feminine sort of vibe wearing panties and dressing up and that kind of a thing? Just all the time. All the time. Okay. It's not just, because I'm cross-dressers, right?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Only feel that attraction when they're like, you know, wearing their clothes. But everybody's different. That's why I could have like a hundred guys that are into crossing, cross-dressing and 100 guys
Starting point is 00:32:58 that are into panties. And every story is going to be a little different because of all these little things that might be different from somebody else, you know? So, all right. So now you're like, okay, when do you start dating girls
Starting point is 00:33:09 and what goes down with your fetish and you're cross-dressing when you're dating the women? So, I didn't really date in high school, per se. I mean, like, the little tinsy relationships I had were just, you know, like your standard. Right, but when you did start dating after high school. So I was, like, it was like my, I want to say my senior year of high school, I got a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And she was the first girlfriend that I actually lost my virginity to vice versa. We were first for everything. And she was the first to kind of indulge my panty fetish. if you might. Well, you were honest to her about it? So not from the get-go. It was very still a secretive thing. I'm still a teenager. I'm still, you know, slightly ashamed about it. Yeah. But very excited about it because now I've got someone I'm close with, you know, and they wear panties. Like, what better, you know, what better thing for me. So I eventually broke it to her and she was like pretty open. I've been pretty fortunate and
Starting point is 00:34:14 life as far as the women in my life that I've been with being open. It was kind of weird for her, but I was kind of a weird person. So it wasn't like a huge shocker. I just remember her, she gave me a pair of panties. She was the first girlfriend to forgive me a pair of panties. So yeah, that was like the first relationship. And we were like, like I said, first serious relationship for both of us. We were only together like two and a half, three years probably. That's a long. time for when you're young and and she knew about your panties would you wear them when you would fool around with her were you at this point were you wearing them underneath your clothes and stuff like what was going down with your panty fetish to be anyway at that point yeah i'm pretty
Starting point is 00:34:59 sure i was wearing them underneath my clothes i don't think i ever like really wore them during sexual experiences with her i just don't think i was there yet you know okay but you but you told her And listen, I think that that's really great that she was accepting of it. And then you continue to tell all your girlfriends, including the one that became the one? Yes. Okay. Like I said, I've been very fortunate throughout my life to not really get a lot of rejection from my partners over it. And I think it's just because of the people that I end up with and like the people that are like their attraction to me is they're, you know, like they're attracted to someone who's a lot.
Starting point is 00:35:43 little different in the course place. Anyway, right. So that part of me, I don't think really comes as a huge shocker or like something that they would leave me over. As far as their thoughts on it, I haven't, I haven't gotten the thoughts of all of them, but they were okay with it. Right. Some indulged it more.
Starting point is 00:36:05 You know, my current partner, she definitely indulges it and understands where it comes from. And, you know, I've explained everything, you know. but yeah so let's get to what about like we're going to get back to your girlfriend when you met her this long term girlfriend and we're going to talk about how she indulges it and all that stuff but I just want to ask you
Starting point is 00:36:24 real quick because you know we left the story off you're just wearing panties you did say you like to cross dress so like when did you start wearing more than just panties and what did you wind up wearing and when did that start so that part the cross dressing I think started like in
Starting point is 00:36:41 and like how you school and stuff. Like, like I said earlier, I'd gotten caught stealing the old theater. Oh, and the cheerleader type of thing. And so I think like, as much as I got into it slightly like that, I never really dove had first into cross-dressing. It's always been strictly, mostly a panty thing. Okay, cool. But it definitely has evolved as I got older and had more access to things. you know, again, I didn't have a lot of access to stuff. And I don't recall my sister is wearing like tights and stuff that much when I was younger. Listen, if it was a strong fetish, yeah, it was something that you were really into.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You would have found a way. You know what I mean? It's probably you're just really into panties. That really is your thing, you know? Maybe you stole the cheerleading outfit because it had the panties inside of it, you know, attached. Right. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So when you meet this girl, your current girlfriend, you've been with her a long time and she fully engages with you and she knows everything. Like when do you wind up copping to her about your fetish as well as, and I want to know if she knows about the guy thing. So pretty early on, I mean, my last few girlfriends, I'm from the get with people. I become, this is just part of me. And so that's kind of been one of my things where I'm like, I'm just going to be upfront and honest and whatever their reaction is. I mean, I'm going to know if I should continue with somebody, you know, that's going to accept that part.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That's amazing that you accept that you put it out there from the get-go. I think that's great. And I want to say that kind of stemmed from the traumatic experiences of, like, you know, that therapy and just like getting caught over the years and like dealing with that, that self-shame, I guess, you. Yeah, it's kind of like you taking the power back. Like you're not going to ever be made to feel bad about it anymore. You're just going to fucking own it.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Right. And although it's still considered a taboo thing in today's society, like I said, I just, I'm up front with it now. And they're very accepting. I mean, like, they don't understand it and that's common. You know, like, but I try to explain it as much as I can what it is for me. Because I think for everybody, panty fetus, you know, any fetish. or cross-thursing. It's very individualized, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:10 Like, everybody has different parts of different things and what it means to them. Yeah, yeah, it's very nuanced. That's why I say I could talk to it. So many of them, I'll always have another crush. I've never like, oh, I already talked to a crush or I don't need you on. I'll have every single crush or so they want to call in, call it. Because every single story is always completely unique. And listen, other people are listening are going to be like right on with like, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:32 probably a lot of the things you say. and then some things don't apply, right? But like most of the time, people could take things from people's stories that they relate to. But at the end of the day, everybody's story is totally unique. And you tried to explain it as much as you can. Your girlfriend, when you say she engages with you the most, what does that mean? Well, she just like, she actually kind of prefers me to wear panties because, like, I just like, I like underwear in general. I guess I didn't really say that from the get it, the get-go, but I consider myself kind of like a panties.
Starting point is 00:40:06 or underwear connoisseur because like I don't think you understand how many panties I have. I am in my office right now and I have like 10 totes filled with underwear. It's bad. I've like collected over the years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, go on. And so she, you know, so I don't have it. I mostly, I wear panties daily.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I do have some guy underwear. it's really not my thing and I do have it around for certain situations or whatever but she I like I ask her recently I said like you know because sometimes when we play around and stuff I'm like you know
Starting point is 00:40:49 I'll give her an because I have so many underwear I'll bring an option like a lace them out and be like you know like choose choose what you want me to wear and like you know and then I'll ask her like why did you pick that pair like what do you prefer on me this and that you know
Starting point is 00:41:04 And so that's what I kind of mean when I say like indulging it and like kind of giving me that satisfaction. Even if it's just like a mental satisfaction. Yeah, I got it. I'm just showing interest in something that I'm into in my daily life. Right. Do you wear to work? I do. Are you wearing right now?
Starting point is 00:41:30 Do you wear every day? I am. Yeah. daily. I know like, I have many different types of panties. I know all about panties, the different types and everything, the different cuts and stuff like that. I mean, I have a lot of experience. And I do daily wear. I'm a city bus driver, so I do have a uniform that I wear. But I wear, you know, like brawettes underneath my shirt or my jacket and panties and stuff like that. So, I mean, the cross-dressing thing is kind of always a thing, too, brouettes or like crop tops or something like underneath.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But panties are definitely in everyday. So it's kind of like female undergarments you like. Because the braulettes is like a female undergarmament. It's not like clothing. It's more of an undergour. Yeah. Well, I do also have clothing as well, too. I just don't wear that out.
Starting point is 00:42:25 That's kind of more of a private thing, like in home. So I definitely, but the majority of, of it all is undergarments for sure. Right. And let me ask you this. Have you ever been able to be with a man sexually? Like, have you ever had that experience? Or is it something that you know that you're interested in,
Starting point is 00:42:44 but just never been there done that? I've never, like, fully been in an experience. I've had a couple little one-off things, nothing crazy, nothing really to even speak about. But I've been in situations with people and stuff. that but I've never really fully experienced and that's definitely something that I'm interested in doing and you know I'm currently in my relationship we're kind of in the talks about like the whole hot wife cuckhold situation what do you mean well it's something that I've definitely
Starting point is 00:43:26 been interested in over the years and I've kind of dived in and kind of figured out why and how. Obviously, for me, it stems from the panties because as growing up looking at porn and searching in certain things like guys wearing
Starting point is 00:43:45 panties, like it's eventually led to like Femdom and cissification and stuff like that. And like that got me going too because I was like, there's other guys that are wearing panties and it gets to this whole
Starting point is 00:44:02 another kind of fetish and kink, you know? Uh-huh. So I've always, I've never, I've been interested in for many years with even past partners, but I never brought it up. But just a year ago, I was comfortable enough to talk to her about it and kind of share some of my kinks because I was never open with kinks and stuff. And so like Chasity, Chastity was like one of the kinks that I was open to her with. You know, I was tired of kind of hiding that behind closed doors.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I wanted her to be involved with it. And so I think, like, we're kind of on that path to go that way, but we're not, we're not there yet. Kind of. We're kind of just, like, exploring digitally and kind of trying to understand the psychology of it and stuff like that. So you're like role playing, fantasizing, that kind of thing or investigate like she's trying to like wrap her head around it? Kind of, yeah. Because I mean, she like most women that guys bring this to were like, what the fuck. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:15 You know, like the whole, you know, you're going to let me sleep with someone, then you're going to expect to sleep with someone. And we know that's not, that's very common. That's not the case. You know, so like, like I said, the psychology of it all and kind of the backstory. and the focal points and stuff and the individualism of the kink because it's different for everybody and just kind of talking about like oh what would our rules be or you know and she's actually at first she was kind of like what the fuck and because i just dropped all this on her and so she had to process that you know yeah so she's actually gotten a lot more interested in it i've shared
Starting point is 00:45:56 like different informational sites, different Reddits. And she, on her own time, sometimes, like, goes and checks these things out, watches cuff porn sometimes and tells me about it and it gets me excited, you know, so. Oh, you're on your way. You just got to play the long game, you know? The guys who play the long game, you know, they're the ones that get the prize. Because, listen, she, you know, she's wrapping her head around it, like I said, the fact that she's like looking into it and stuff like you know there wasn't a definite what the
Starting point is 00:46:31 fuck no way you know don't ever talk to me about that again so you know it could definitely wind up being something that happens in the future for sure absolutely and i was you know when i brought that up it was very freeing like i felt like a weight was lifted when i brought up like the chastity and stuff like that and like the cuck holding it was like a weight was lifted like now it's out there you know it was a lot further process at the time but like over time now she's kind of diving more into it and it's it's very it's exciting you know um and i believe that started like that fetish in particular started from like the panties being as a teenager there was a couple situations where like I was in the room while my friend was fucking his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And I think like that hot friend of yours, the hot friend of yours? Not that one, but a different one. Okay. Okay. And he had a big dick too. Oh my God. Like all these experiences my life kind of brought me to where I am now. Well, listen, here you were a virgin, right, watching your friend fuck a girl.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I mean, if that's what's like any virgin's going to get off. on that, whether they're into that or not. Like, that's why you got wired into being a little cuck. You know what I'm saying? Because you hadn't even fucked a girl yet, right? When you were watching him fuck a girl, right? Well, at that time, I wasn't a virgin. This was a little further down the road.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Oh, okay. But I still wasn't super experienced with women and stuff like that. And I'm not super well endowed. Right. You saw this big dick. Well, I'm a little below average. So, like, seeing that, and just seeing her pleasured and stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Like I, and at that time, I didn't know about like cuck holding and anything like that. Yeah, of course. Right, but that definitely wired you into it. Oh, my God. 100%. Yeah, yeah. Because I was probably very fully charged. Do you remember being very turned on by seeing that whole scenario?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah, and it happened more than once, surprisingly. And so, like, when things are in repetition like that, I think that they ingrain in you. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. know, so. Of course. They why, it becomes like a habit, you know. It's like, you know, you wire yourself into certain things.
Starting point is 00:48:58 That happens all the time for sure. I mean, that's like an early thing that happened to you when you were younger. And you, like you said, more than once. Plus, you were into guys. You already knew it, you know. You were not so well endowed. And here's like a big dick in front of you. I mean, it's very fully loaded.
Starting point is 00:49:17 100%. Yeah. Yeah. That's so interesting. You know, do you plan on like, you know, proposing to this girl? Like, do you think she's the one for you? I know she's the one for me for me for sure. Yeah, because I was going to say, you should put a ring on it, okay?
Starting point is 00:49:32 This is your girl. So we've definitely both thought about that. Yeah. We have mixed feelings on marriage. Marriage itself. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Like you've talked about before, and we've, you know, to us it's just a piece of paper. We do have a four-year-old child.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Oh, you do? Okay. So you have a kid together. And you live together. Yeah. So you're fully committed to each other. 100%. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:50:02 That's good. Because listen, she's so great for you. You know what I mean? You're really like she knows every part of you. And she's very cool in that, you know, when you do tell her stuff, she's inquisitive. She looks into it. She never shuts you down.
Starting point is 00:50:15 You know, she really is the perfect girl for you. 100%. And I couldn't agree more with that. Does she know you're calling into the show? I did bring it up to her. I didn't tell her I was calling in today. But I did say, hey, I'm going to be calling in. And, you know, talking about my panty fetish and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:50:36 We listen, I listen to your podcast like daily. Uh-huh. I love that. Thank you. Yeah, not a problem. And so I've been trying to get her into it, too, especially because of the hot-y thing and coffee. Yeah, there's so many good.
Starting point is 00:50:49 ones. Yeah, listen, there's so many good, the long game ones. I've had so many newbie guy got his girl into hot wife situations that I've aired recently. Those are the ones she should listen to. And I've taped more. You know what I mean? Like, those are really great ones for her to listen to them. Absolutely. Yeah. I've actually went back to and the reason, or actually the original reason I found your podcast was because I went on Spotify and searched panties. Oh, good. That's good to know. This is why, listen, this is why I do my fetish Friday episodes because a lot of these things are very niche, but people are looking for information on them. And not many people are talking about it. No, not at all. And I think it's great because, you know, people with these fetishes and kinks and stuff, they're looking for that outlet. Of course. Familiarity of like being. Not so alone. Knowing that they're not alone. Yeah. It makes a big difference. And I think your show does wonders for that. I mean, like, there's so many different things, categories in the kink world and lifestyle and whatnot. And it's like, you have it all in one place. I mean, you've talked to thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah, exactly. Like 1,300 at this point. And yet, I don't stick to one thing. You know what I mean? I'm not just a hot wife podcast. Because I remember joining like this Swinger Facebook group and people were asking, what's your favorite podcast and like not one person like said my podcast. I'm like that's like really weird. Why is no one? Because I have like one of the largest audience of my show. And then I realize you know why like
Starting point is 00:52:26 I like in that place like because I'm not like just a swinger podcast. I'm not just a hot wife podcast. I'm not even just a fetish podcast. I actually unlike most podcasts talk about everything. And that happens to be why my audience is the largest, right? Because it's not so niche. Because I don't just focus on one part of the lifestyle. You know what I mean? I'll have cheater stories on, have nothing to do with the lifestyle. You know what I mean? Like I talk to just people with like interesting life story, so I like it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:56 And I think it's important and I started my show to help people. It wasn't supposed to be about sex, but it turned into that. And you know, when I started doing my fetish episodes back in the day, I was like, oh, I'll never give this up. And I always dedicated every Friday to it because I always get emails from people, you know, being very appreciative that they found my show,
Starting point is 00:53:13 that they have their episode, that they got to call in and tell their story or just people that are listening, but to say that, you know, they're so helpful for them because, like, you said, they know that they're not alone. It made them feel less weird, quote unquote, you know, and that's what it's all about. So you're going to do the same thing for other people now because they're going to hear your episode. It's going to be on my Patreon. If you want to send a picture, like, for Patreon, like, you know, when people call them for their fetishes, like sometimes, like a picture of your stash or something like that is kind of interesting. If you want, you will get
Starting point is 00:53:40 free access to my Discord. There's a lot of channels in there. There's a, I wear panties channel. So you could, you're going to fit in right there. in the Discord. You'll get free access to that when we hang up. But I will also give you free access to my Patreon for one month when your episode airs. I'll give you it when your episode airs, okay? And I tell people, like for the cross-dresser, since you're a cross-dester, anyone that calls it on, give them free a year, free for my patron, not just a month.
Starting point is 00:54:04 You're going to get a whole year since you called up with a fetish. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's sweet. Yeah, there's a lot of extra content on there. I do one, every month, they get free exclusive episodes over there. So there's tons of more stuff there and then, you know, but I'll let you know when your episode airs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Jake, thanks so much for calling in. I love your whole story. It's super interesting. Thank you very much, Kathy. Okay. I'll email you when your episode is going to come up. And if you want to send me any picks, like I said, of your stash or whatever you're wearing, send them for my Patreon. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:32 By the way, before we go, I do want to say I did buy your book and it is wonderful. I just want to congratulate you on that. Thanks. I'm getting, I'm getting my. I'm getting my girl a Kindle for Christmas and I'm going to get her that book as well. I mean, it's a little hardcore. Like I feel like I, because a lot of guys are saying, oh, I got it for my wife. I'm like, I don't know if your wife's going to like it.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It's more written for guys because it's like sort of harsh. It's not like cheesy erotica, which I don't like. You know what I'm saying? So that's like, oh, no, I hope she likes it. But I'm glad you like it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Thank you so much for buying the book.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Did you get your free access to Discord already from buying the book or did you not email me about it? So I actually have access to Discord. Oh, good. Okay, good. But send me, email me some picks, okay? And thanks for buying my book. That was super nice.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, no problem. Thanks for your time. Thanks, Jake. This was fun. Bye. All right. Bye-bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story.
Starting point is 00:55:59 There's a cuck story. There's a gang-being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And finally, the audiobook is available. coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contest where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my
Starting point is 00:57:22 discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.

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