Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 134 - Don Juan the Former Player

Episode Date: July 11, 2016

Don Juan is in a relationship now but he used to be the biggest player. He calls in and discusses why he became a player, how he became a player and why he eventually stopped playing. Tune in to hear what to do to pick up lots of chicks as well as what not to do and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I wrote a book. It's a stick figure book. There's some stick figure book. called Sober Stick Figure shit. I don't know. It's all out there. This girl, because she's a comedian. She was able to get her book published,

and everyone's talking about it. I'm sure my book is just as good. It's like the same concept. My book is a stick figure book, and there is a lot of crazy, drunk stories in there. And you could buy it on Amazon. It's called The Cartoon Miss Avengers of a Total Train Wreck. Like I said,

it's a stick figure like drawing book about my relationships for my losing my virginity story until I turned 40 it's like a bunch of relationship gone bad stories that's exactly what it is put together in one book you can buy it on amazon i think it's like 11 bucks it's a hard copy book it's really cute uh what else and that's about it i'm just going to tell you who i have on the show today it's don juan i love that name like i said he was a listener who wrote in and said he used to be a player and is that a player anymore he's dating somebody but he talks about why he became a player

like what happened to him in his past what he did to become a player you know like the tactics that he used to get a lot of women and he got a lot of women and then the podcast takes like a turn

and we get into a little bit more personal stuff with him because I call bullshit on some of the stuff that he talks about you know his playing ways I kind of calm out on it a little bit it and then we get a little bit more serious about him and his history and his relationship now, what he's going through and blah, blah, blah. So it's a really interesting podcast because I think you learn a lot about what to do with women, what not to do. I give my two cents. He talks about

what he did. And you hear like the backstory on a player. And I talk about this on the podcast briefly, but the truth is like whether it's like a man and he's a player or a woman and she's like what people would call a slut or a whore. You know, a lot of times people that are, you know, had those labels or people who are acting out because shit went down when they were younger or in their past that, you know, made them, that hurt them and then they act out by being either promiscuous with men or women. And I think that it's interesting or important to get the backstory. So you don't just judge people and assume that they're just one way.

Most of the time there's reasons behind stuff. That's why I do my podcast to reveal that kind of stuff. So I'll be right back on with Don Juan. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is Strictly Anonymous.

Strictly Anonymous. Drickly Anonymous. Hey, Don Juan. Welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you? I'm good. So, Don Juan, this is the deal. I mean, duh, it's pretty obvious what this call is about, considering you're using

the name Don Juan. You're a player, right? But you have, I'm just going to give the quick synopsis, and then you're going to go in and explain everything, right? So you're a total player. You're pretty self-aware because you explained a couple things that happened to you pretty early on, which is the reason or things that happened to you, which made you into the player that you are, right? Correct. And then you went into like all the things that you do as a player, which is interesting because you were just playing me before we started taping this podcast.

We're going to get into that in a second. And then there was a- Do you think I was saying you, though? A little bit. It's what you know. No, no. Yeah, because you're curious like I am. And we discussed that already too.

but I think that what's interesting about the questions you were asking me is it is a part of what you do when you go after a girl to get into her head, right? And because it helps you figure stuff out about her. You were doing it with me because you wanted to get on the phone with someone and sort of know stuff a little bit more about me, right? But I was like, oh, save it for the podcast because I do believe that these things that you're asking me, you ask women, because you told me this, right, when you're sort of picking them up and that's your way of sort of getting in their head

and getting the one up, right? And like getting them to like you. So let's start. And then you ended with something like you, someone changed your life, but you're kind of like still in your back way. So I'm thinking maybe you're in a relationship now. Are you in a relationship now?

Yes. How long you've been in a relationship? This is those two years coming on two years. Two years. And I haven't cheated on her and I haven't been. Oh, okay. I'm nervous about talking to you. to you now about it because I've never done anything behind her back.

Okay, but that's okay. Totally, right, right. I get it. I get it. Right. So this is like you're lying. Yeah, exactly. But you did say, you said something like, oh, I'm feeling like a little like it's hard for

me to put everything in the past or put the stuff behind. But you've been okay for two years not doing being the player that you were, right? I guess it's kind of like being an alcoholic because the temptation is always there. Like I can't get away from women. Like they're always going to be, a woman's always going to be in my presence no matter what, you know. Unless I go for like a seminary of all men. Right, right, right. There's always women around.

But you don't do anything and you don't do it. But let's start from the beginning because like I said, you admit it to being a player and like really like. But and you were like very honest, like I said, very self-aware enough to say that you got hurt. And then you made a point to go out and meet as many, many women as you could. and then totally fuck them over, right? I mean, that's like you straight up, like you know exactly what you were doing. At the beginning of it all, it was like that.

Like, I just wanted revenge. Right, well, what happened? Start with the two things, because there was two devastating things that happened. Should we go from the beginning of when I figured out I was a player or from the beginning of those relationships? No, the stuff that made you a player. Stuff that made you a player, yeah.

I was raised by five women. That was like an edge on every male out of all, males that didn't want raised by five women. Mm-hmm. Because being in a household of five women since day one, you figure women out. Right. And do you have any guys in, like, do you have any brothers or anything or just no? It was just you with five women. And a fifth.

Right. Okay, cool. And my mom had me at such a young age. She was, she got pregnant when she was 13. Oh, wow. 14. Wow. And that was back in the 70s. I think we're the same age, around the same age. How old are you? So, you know, back then it's 43. Uh-huh. Okay, cool. Back then, yeah, that was hard. That was like, right? And so she lived with her mom still, so you were raised with your grandmother, right?

And then so all my sisters, or all my, I call my sisters, but then my aunt, my grandma were still young and age. So we all kind of grew up together. Hey, let me ask you a quick question. Who, like, your dad, right, your biological father, like the one, like, was he in? Is he? your life? Did he ever stay in your life? Right. I mean, how old was he at the time? Exactly. That's where it gets crazy because he was 21. Oh, wow. Well, when I was 15, I dated a 21 year old. So Right. And so my grandpa, my dad, my mom's dad, wanted to kill him so he was never around. I don't blame him. Oh my God. Imagine when your daughters that, you know, just thinking so. I mean, I think it's bad at any age for dads to imagine their daughters having sex with a man. You

You know, I think they can't even handle it. But you're a 13-year-old? Oh, my God. I mean, that's like hardcore. I mean, she was like really, you know, the fact that she could even, that she had her period, it's so young. Right now you think about that'd be raped. That'd got to be in jail. Yeah, you're right.

Yeah, right. Well, how come it wasn't back then? Well, I don't know. I don't know why. Maybe because they didn't report it or, no, she had to go to the doctor and like, I mean. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm surprised at 13 that she even knew, like, you know.

what that even meant. Yeah, and she didn't know she was pregnant. That's what I mean, yeah. Yeah, my aunt told my grandma, at the time, she was like, stop beating, you know, my mom oatmeal because she keeps it on up in the morning. And my grandma was like, what? And then that's how my grandma figured out that she was pregnant. Oh.

Okay, and so the guy was 21, so and your father wanted to kill him. So he just didn't stick around at all. But he was like in the neighborhood, right? I'm assuming he lived close by, right? Because she was so young. So like did you know him growing up? No, I've met him like maybe four or five times my whole life. Wow.

He's around like he works like six blocks from my house. Oh, really? I know where he works. I know what he looks like. Uh-huh. To this day. I have no relationship with him. Right.

Okay, cool. So you were raised by all women. And so you felt like you had a one up on most men because you really knew what made what I took, right? But at the time I didn't know. Yeah, because I didn't know what it was. Like I didn't know, like, oh, I'm going over here and talk to this woman because I know what's up. I just understood what she was going through or, like, you know, what's going on and what questions to ask.

Mm-hmm. Just because of growing up with my women and also my mom, as I call them. Mm-hmm. They're real strict. Like, they made sure that I was going to be a gentleman no matter what. Right. They wanted you to treat women properly. Be one of the guys that would.

Right, because of what they were going through at the time. They didn't want me to end up what those guys were doing. and actually I ended up with it. But I wasn't doing it the way they were doing it. Oh my God. You're helping me because, you know, I have a son now. And, like, my whole thing is, like, I always wanted a boy because I want to make him grow up to be, you know, a good guy that treats women good, especially a woman like me. That's, like, the kind of woman that most guys don't like, you know, he's going to, like, be attracted to that.

And I want, but I hope he doesn't go the opposite way. Went to the dark side. I got all the knowledge and jumped. And so, oh. Okay, so you're raised by all them. You get women very well, but you start to date somebody, your first girlfriend, right? No, so in high school, I started figuring this out. I was like, wait a minute.

And since it's weird, because I like the company of women better than company of men. Like, I like hanging out with women. I don't know what it is, but. Well, I think it makes sense. Your whole childhood, like you had this really, like, and it sounds like you had a good relationship with these women, right? And everything was really well. So you were like really taken care of like by five women. So you probably,

it's probably very natural for you to enjoy that company because that's how you were raised. Yes. So like in high school when, you know, you start to become man, you can voice changes and start growing hair everywhere. And that's when I figured out, wait a minute. And all my friends said,

I think you're gay. I'm like, why? Because they groomed me to be a woman essentially. if you think about it. Right. Because how am I going to know to raise a man if there's no man in the house?

Right. Uh-huh. And I always tell everybody I'm lucky I learn how to pee down and up because who was supposed to teach me that? That's so funny. My son I bring him in the bathroom

with me and he sits down in his little chair and he watches me put on my makeup. And I totally remember doing that with all my hands. Like I can remember putting hills on and I remember getting ready. Yeah, and then I bring him in my room. The perfume. Yeah.

Yeah, and he watches me and do everything. Yeah. And I went through all that with five women. Right. And I would know when they got mad, like, they come home crying, and they'd be like, you know, they're talking to somebody, when they're somebody else. And I'm just sitting there listening, like a fly on the wall

because I'm only, you know, 9, 10, 11 years old. Yeah. And I'm absorbing all this. Oh, the girls don't like when you do this. Yeah, but this is, what's so interesting, though, is like you're here to say, because you turned out straight, like you're totally straight, right? And it really goes to show that, like,

Anybody that thinks like, oh, you know, people aren't born gay, that someone makes them gay. That's not really true. Because, like, if anyone then should be gay, it should be you. Right? I mean, I think some people that were, like, abused, sometimes that happens. But most people who are gay, they're just born that way. This is just the way that it is, you know? Like, you were born straight.

Because if, like, you said, even your friends were like, dude, you're gay. Like, it's because you're- Yeah. And, like, I would always tell them, I was like, if you put me in a room for 24 hours and let a gay dude, fuck me in the ass. 24 hours at the end I'm still going to hate it I'm not going to be like oh right I enjoy this right I'm I'm totally wasn't you're not getting right I'm totally straight because I love women I love the sound of their voice I love the way they smell I love their skin I love I love women okay great okay a lot of guys love women but get to like your your problem quote of I don't know if it's a problem but it became like sort of an obsession because get to the first

First girlfriend, okay? Yeah, I'm dating women. Yeah. So this is a funny story. This is totally fits in with everything. So my first girlfriend that allowed my virginity too. How old were you? Is the girl 14th.

Okay. Is what's the girl's best friend that I'm dating now? Oh, really? So she's in your life? She, she, we went high school together, it's growing with now. Yeah, yeah, totally. Uh-huh. So do you see the girl that you lost your virginity with?

Because she's your current girlfriend's friend. She's a lesbian now. Oh, interesting. And she's my friend on Facebook and the girl that I'm with now knows. Just so you know, the guy I lost my virginity with is gay. Okay. Never know, right? Yeah, who knows?

So then that was my first girlfriend and everything was good. But then you started getting on the relationships, whatever. And my last girlfriend in high school, I was older. I graduated and then she graduated and she was like well let's move in together I was like all right let's move in together we're with each other for like um six months living with each other and I started and she she had a job where she wore a uniform all the time right and we saw we we started getting in fights because I told her I was going to school at the time I was like I need clothes I need to put in the budget for clothes because I wear I don't have a uniform every day so

long started short some of my clothes were missing. Listen, like I just bought some jeans. Where are my jeans? Right. So it turned out, and how she worked is she had a split shift. So she would go early in the morning, come home at lunch, and then leave late at night, and then, you know, work. And I would go to school during that daytime. Right.

And I hardly ever see each other. But one day I, I, uh, we had finals. I finished my final early and I went home. And the dude was there. Waring my clothes. what are you wearing your clothes? Well didn't he show up with us in his own clothes and then he'd like take them off screw your girl and then he put on your clothes? I have no idea.

I opened the door and I walked in and he was there and I knew it. I was like, dude, what are you doing? And then he's like, well, I'll go to tell you something, you know. And he told me that he was with my girl and she's moving out and he's moving in with him and she's moving out. He was the one that. And so she was, she was the truth she left you for that guy? Yep.

Wow. And now, did you have any idea besides the clothes thing? Like, what was the deal? Because you say, supposedly, okay, that you're so in touch with women and stuff. So, like, because I talk about this a lot of my podcast, right? So just hear me out. Right. I really believe that men and women cheat for different reasons.

And a lot of times, most of the time, what I think of women cheats is when her needs are not being met, right? And here you are a self-proclaimed player who knows women so well, right? So how the hell did you miss that? after the time I wasn't that was like the beginning of it that was before I come to the dark side that's before everything started waiting a minute okay go on before it's it kind of clicked like wait a minute the reason why she said we broke up is because I was never there but I couldn't be there because our schedule didn't match yeah but that but that is the problem that is going to be a problem it's not saying you did that by like because you didn't want to see her I mean it was just it's an

unfortunate thing that happened to you guys I've had people on my show before which had unfortunate circumstances like that. You know, a woman's like I say it all the time, she's not like a potted plant. You just can't feed her once a week and expect her to be okay. You know, women need a lot more than that. So she went and found a guy,

she could see a lot more than you, and she left you. And that really made you mad, but then something else happened to you. And at the time, too, at the time, since we went to high school together, we had like mutual friends. Right. And I told her, I was like, I'm not going to

You know My mom's always told me Don't talk ill about somebody Don't you know So I feel I'm not going to tell anybody What happened As far as I'm concerned We just broke up

In our special way Because I'm not going to talk bad about you And then She started saying I was cheating on her I told everybody All our friends To this day our friends are like Yeah I heard you cheated on her

And I'm like no That's not what really happened Oh forget her Okay so she would You guys were young though who cares. Okay, so the next... Not even 20 years.

Yeah, exactly. She was young, too. That's like young, stupid drama that we all go through. But then the next girl or whatever, get to the second thing. Yeah, it was the next girl. Okay, the next girl. It was the next girl. It was at my job, you know, the work relationships.

Yeah? She was totally different from the first girl. And it's like one of the first girls I dated that wasn't in a high school with us. She's from, you know, California and, oh. Mm-hmm. Somebody knew, somebody fresh. Anyway, we started dating. Everything was going good.

She knew I was her and what the ex-ro-friend did me. About a year and a half, I think there's about almost two years. I asked her to marry me. She's like, sure, I'll marry you. Let's do this. So it was like the second day after I asked her to marry me. At the time we were in two different apartments. So this is two years, right?

You're with your two years? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And we had two different apartments. And I was just getting ready to, you know, move in with her. But we're at her house almost all the time. So I had a schedule where I worked later and then I would go home,

get what I had to do and go to her house. Well, this time I did the same exact thing I did every time. Went to her house, our house, the door was locked, like the screen door. I'm like, what if I'm knocking on, knocking on, knock on the door, pounding on the door, pounding and pounding and finding this guy opens the door. It's her baby's, one of her babies' daddy's was in there. With her. yes and he didn't have a shirt on and she was upstairs in the bedroom she's saying who is it

and the guy was like I don't know who this is and and I have flowers I was bringing up flowers oh my god how embarrassing I'm so and so and I'm like and when he said his name I was like yours what's the name is dad and he was like yeah you know me know what's name are starting gone off our relationship now I'm like and then she walked out to the top of stairs and she's seen me and I see her and she was like I'm like and I gave my flowers I was like, okay. Okay, now how did you miss that one?

I have no idea how I missed that one. Well, I knew that she was talking. If they have kids from another dad, you're going to have to talk to him. Yeah. Like, you can't say, no, you can't talk to that guy. Of course, of course. And that so bothers me now with my new girlfriend.

She has a kiss on another guy, and because of my past, it messes me up. Right, you get a little, right. Talk about that. Yeah, yeah, so we'll get to that. Yeah. Okay, so she cheats on you too.

I mean, listen, I think that it's a little bit more rare for women to cheat than men. So I feel like you mean, most men haven't been cheated on. A lot of men have, right? Most women have been cheated on because most guys cheat. So it's a kind of crazy that you had two in a row. But I think that they thought I was weak. Like, you know what I mean? I think they thought since I was so metrosexual and I was so attentive and I was so, like,

Right. You know, when you're young, I say this a lot. Like, girls like to be treated like shit. You know, and I think when you get, yeah, they do. No, no, no, but that's 20 to 30. And then after 30 and once they get older, it's very different. But, you know, in their 20s, when you're young and, like, they want drama and they want nonsense to keep them interested. They don't want, like, a good guy yet. Not many.

I mean, some people do. But that's... The player status, too, now that I'm baiting older, well, I was baiting order with... while I was dating order of women. The whole, because the women now I'm dating, while I was dating, were older,

and they already had their kids. They already got divorced, and they just want to have fun now. And they already have their own money. They have their own careers. It's a whole different... Ball game. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But let's stick to the chronological order in your life. So this one, so she, I mean, you're going to marry her, right? That must be devastating, especially because it's the same thing.

I don't know how you've ever, like you'll ever trust a woman again. Well, it took until now. You're right. And that was when I was 22, 23. Right, I get it. So you decide after that, basically. You said it, that you were going to. I was going to pay back all the women for what I was feeling.

I never in my life wanted to feel that gut feeling that when your heart drops and your stomach just falls and you're like, oh, like, I told myself, I'm never going to feel that way again. And I'm going to hurt as many women as I can to have them. feel that way. So, right. Even, even though these girls did nothing to you, you didn't want to get revenge on the two girls that had cheated on you. You wanted to get revenge on just random. Well, because they would be expecting it. They would be expecting it.

They'd be like, oh, you know, you never, it would never be like how I felt. That's interesting, though, that that was like, so it was like a conscious decision. I think a lot of people have a subconscious sort of thing going on where they're doing that. But for you, it was conscious, right? Like, you actually said in your mind, like, I'm going to go get revenge on just random women and make them feel even though they did nothing to you. It was like, you know, a while later after I thought after the hurt war off and off. You know, I started thinking about it.

And then I'm like, you know what? It's going down. Right. And then how did you get, how did you become successful in that mission? So that was my first thought, like, I was the douche band. When I laughed at that, that's the whole girl's, oh, that got the douche. That's why I was like the first year, year and a half of the player thing. And then I started, it started evolving.

And I'm like, you know what? I don't know what it was, but it was like something that clicked in my head. Like, I don't want them to do that to my grandma or my aunts. I wouldn't want that to happen to them. You know, I don't know what it was, but something clicked, like, I can't be doing that anymore. I can't be the douchebag that I was. Like, I would pick up the girls, have sex with them. It's literally like, fuck you, I'm out of here.

Don't ever call me again. Right. You obviously hurt. Uh-huh. Yes, yes. And we're doing that, like picking up girls, anybody could pick up a girl, like, if you really tried. You didn't have to have any kind of player, any kind of, you know, go to bar,

buy a girl a drink. She's a little drunk. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to have any. But there's different, like, levels and statuses of women that not the normal Joe could have. Right. So I started thinking, I want to up my level.

up my game, but I'm not going to treat them the way I was treating him at the end. So what I figured out is a true player doesn't admit that he's a player. Right. A true player, the women he's with will never,

ever feel plays. Right, of course. Ever. They'll always come back. They'll always come back. And he's, in their eyes, he's the greatest thing ever. Yeah, that's also like,

maybe sometimes a womanizer. Yeah, well, kind of. I think there's a difference. I actually think players are guys that fuck a lot of girls and that treat them like shit and don't really care about relationships. And I think womanizers are guys that fuck a lot of girls but actually really like them and like their companionship, but they're still as unavailable as the players are. So I think you might be more a womanizer because you actually like women.

Yes. I guess you could say I don't know. I don't like the womanizer. I don't like her. Yeah. I mean, listen, I don't know if I'm right out. That's just how it is. You know, that's how I have it categorized.

my head, you know. So anyway, you categorize, you sort of label yourself as a player, but now you want, you want to be nicer because you actually like the women, but you still want to get a lot of women, right? But you want to keep them and actually be cool with them. Yes, yes. And then you,

yeah. That was the main thing. So in this journey, I figured out there's a lot of things that I didn't know about, that I couldn't talk to women about, that I wanted to be with. Like if I see a beautiful woman at the bar and she has,

you know, she's attractive and she's got the hills and the nice watch and the jacket and the briefcase and she's drinking wine. You know, the way I was, I couldn't walk up here and be like, hey, girl, what's, what's up? What you do? I had to, you know, I had to approach her in a way where she didn't feel intimidated that, hey, this guy, you know, I don't talk to this guy. But I didn't have nothing in common with those women like that.

Okay. So in my mind, I was like, I have to stop my game. So I went to dance classes, like ballroom, tap, cha-cha. What girl wants a cha-cha with you? Exactly. Well, you know, the girl doesn't want to go. If you know how to dance, you will dance all night. Most guys don't want to dance.

Exactly. It's true. And if you know how to dance, you're a group of girls. Go, hey! You go out and dance, when you're dancing all night. Right, exactly. And then the girl's eyes like, man, that guy is cool. He gets all the night with us.

Right. But if you know how to dance, then you can't do that. Right, totally. Okay, so you took tons of dance classes. Dance classes. I took etiquette classes. I took wine classes. I took, whatever.

I read a lot of books on picking up women, which are a bunch of garbage. Like, you can't learn that from a book. Like, there's so many different angles into a woman. There's no way you could say, you know, concrete. This is A, B, C, and D. you're fucking at deep. There's no way. Right. It's too deep than that.

So I just wanted to figure out, you know, what else was out there and what other people's approaches were on in and, and I guess there's one thing that I picked up in it. It works, it works while like, okay, so a man goes to buy cologne. So I say I'm going to Macy's to buy cologne. I spray cologne and I, what I like, smell good, right? I'm thinking, oh, this mouth good. So if another guy walks by It has that same cologne on, I'm thinking, man, he's not good.

I don't want to attract men. So I started thinking even deeper into it. I'm like, women, perfume is what turns me on. So if I'm looking at a man and thinking, if he smiles good, a woman is going to smile another woman and think, man, she's not good. Because it's a woman's perfume. So for a long time, I was wearing women's perfume. And did you get any?

looks or do you think it actually helped you? No. I think because you know how the perfume is not different on everybody like it's saying perfume. I think since I was a male, I think the perfume didn't smell like perfume but they liked it. Like I always got compliments on how I smelled.

Do you think it smelled different than, did it smell masculine on you? Because you know you have masculine hormones mixing with it? I think it kind of did. But then I thought I thought I thought it's about it even more. I went a step further. I was like So, quick story, I ripped his girl's panties. I told her I'd buy her some more.

Ended up in Victoria's Secret. All women in that store, very few men in that store. All women, right? They have cologne. So I started thinking, wait a minute. This is the smell that women want to smell, a male cologne that's made by women. Right. So I started using a Victoria's Secret.

Cologne for men? Mm-hmm. Every time I wear it, always, always a compliment. Man, you smile good. Man, you smile good. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. You smell good, thank you.

Really? So women like it. Yes. Okay, do you remember the names in case people want to go out and buy it? Or is it just the only cologne that they have? No, no. I think it's love. Love?

Oh, my God. That's so hilarious. It's something. I can't remember. Let me ask you this. When you'd bring the girls back to your house, would you hide this stuff? Or you'd let them sing. your perfume and your victorious secrets.

Yeah, I leave it out. Right, okay. But again, I'm heterosexual, so my house is spotless, clean. Right. Like, I'm just not leaving stuff on the counter. You know, it's not peel of the toilet or hair and the sink. I mean, it's together. Okay.

But I think that's when you first meet a girl, that's the first contact before you even smell or talk to each other is the smell. I think smell. I've always believed in. smell. I think smell is very important. It's slightly manipulative and you should use it to your advantage. Like to me, like every time I've broken up with a boyfriend, like I had one boyfriend very early on when I was like in my early 20s who wore that eternity, Calvin Klein attorney. That was like the thing that everyone wore at the time. And like after we broke up, like if I was in a movie theater and someone in the next row was wearing that, it would, I would think about my ex point. It would

make me and it would make me so angry. But I was like, this is so manipulative. So I started to like, I have always been somebody who people always comment on my smell because I load up on it because I want people to think about me when they're not with me. So I feel like when they smell my perfume on somebody else or someplace, they will have to think of me. It's the same shit like you were thinking. See? It's very manipulative and I believe everyone should do that. You should really create a scent that is all your own that somebody really likes that. And then because whenever they're not with you and they smile that, they'll think of you.

It's a nice trigger. Yes. And you don't even have to talk to the girl. I mean, you could just sit next to them in their mind. Like, I just smell good. And if their family, they'd be like, you smell good. Exactly. But they'll remember you by it.

And if they smell it, they may remember you. I mean, there is a little bit like, you know. Didn't even have to know your name, but they're going to remember the smell. Dr. Guy has been on my podcast a lot. He's a guy who I dated at some time. And we're actually really good friends. And whenever I see him and hang out with him, he's always all over me. He's very cuddly.

You know, he's always trying to bang me. I don't sleep with him anymore. But when I see him, I let him sit close and to hold my hand and touch me because he's, why not? I don't, you know, what's the harm? And he's hot, right? So last time he did that, this is about the smell. After he left my, he was really, he was like, he burns the candle at both ends, work,

hard, play hard. He was falling asleep on my couch. And I said, why don't you go into my bedroom and take a nap before you go out? Because he was going out to meet some girls. And he went and he's like, can you cuddle with me? I'm like, sure, I'll come in and cuddle. with you. So we're like laying out and he got all. So you're spooning in. No, we never, yeah, we spooked a little bit and whatever. We talked and then he left. But after he left, I was, I had his

smell all over my hair and I kind of liked it. It reminded me of his house and when we dated and like, I left it for hours and smelled it and it was like really nice. Like it made me feel good. It reminded me of being with him and stuff like. And so that's how powerful smell is. Like, and I told him the next day, I'm like, I didn't even like wash my hair that night because I wanted to smell it, I liked it. Like it reminded me of that time. And I've always told guys that if you want to pick a little girl,

you gotta smile nice. So important. Yeah, some guys don't even give a shit about it. No, but you have to have your own, you have to have like a scent. You know what I mean? You have to have something that is like very you that somebody would remember you by.

I think so. But let's move on. I might cut this out of the podcast. So what were we saying? Okay, so the smell. No, so you would, you started. to do all this kind of stuff to really get in the head.

You started wearing perfume. Like everything that you were doing at this point in your life was to get girls, right? You were a little fixated because the fact that you're taking dance, like everything that you're doing, it's like you're not really like planning your career. You're planning like how to get girls, really. That's really what you were. Right. I was consumed in every, every waking thought was how am I going to bang the next hot chick?

Right. And how are you going to do that? Right. and how what you could do to make that actually better. You took the dance. Let's just go down the list in case some guys want to try this crazy shit that you did. So you took lots of dance class and like, okay, you did the smell thing. We explained that.

What's the other things that you've done? Before that, in high school, I used to be in a boy band. Okay, okay, but forget. In high school, you got cheated on by two girls. So let's not listen to what you did in high school. Okay, it didn't work for you. Okay, so let's listen to. But I knew how to dance.

It wasn't like I didn't know how to dance. Right, okay, cool. I had a rhythm, you know, I wasn't like goofy out there. Yeah, we don't care. Okay, so you took classes, so obviously you wanted to really know how to dance all kinds of ways. Like cha-cha, salsa, dance. You know, you see people at the club and you're like, damn, look at those people dancing. And you're like, so now I could be that person.

Right, okay. So you did the dancing. What's the third thing? Give me some more stuff that you did. Like the wine classes, like you step up to a woman and she's drinking wine and you're like, what kind of are you drinking? You can talk a lot from that. Like, is it white?

Is it a red? Is it a reasoning? I know you were asking me what kind of stuff. You asked me a lot of questions before. We're going to go over that. But so you took wine classes. Let's go down the list first. Because I wanted to talk.

You wanted to be able to talk about things with a girl if you're hitting her up in a bar. Yes. And most girls drink wine. You asked me I was never a wine drinker. So I'm like, I don't drink. First of all, I pictured you a wine drinker. Yeah, no, not at all. I'm listening to a podcast.

I pictured you a wine drinker. Yeah, no, not at all. A cab or something. Maybe if I was a drinker now, that's what I would drink because I'm a different person now than when I was drinking, you know? Maybe that's why you think that, but I don't drink at all. And I was never a wine drinker. But so you took wine classes so that you would have some. Yeah.

Before this, you always have your guests rate themselves one to ten. Yeah. What are you? I'm like a six, like a strong six. Is there such a thing? So you're saying like a strong six means like you're almost a seven. No, no, no, no, like maybe a six and a half, but I'm like a solid six. A solid six.

That's not so great. Is that what you're trying to say? No, with my personality and my humor, I'm like a 10, 11, 12. Easy. Yeah, well, a lot of guys have that. That's the difference between men and women. Women go more for, like, personality and stuff than looks a lot of times. Like, guys, I think some guys understand that.

Yeah. Am I, like, a big old hunk now? The regular dude. And I think that you get in further because that's just a regular guy. Like a woman is a handsome guy, blonde hair, blue eyes, all cut, but she knows that. She keeps him. He's going to cheat on her. Everybody wants that guy.

Yeah, that was like Dr. Guy. He was like very good looking. And the problem. Yeah, the problem was too many. Girls would like hit on him when I was with him and he wasn't like looking at other people. They would like zoom and they would see him from across the bar and like come over and just like, I mean, everyone wanted. The more normal you look, the better chances you have. You're harmless.

Right. Okay. But that's not a tactic. That's not a tactic you did. So you're like a thought. So what you're trying to say. I just like trying to think of it with my podcast. Like, oh, people are going to be listening to it's some guys and they're going to maybe

want to learn from you, right? Because it's. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So stick to that because if you're not a six, you're not a six. But you're just trying to tell people that if you are a six, it could work for you. It's not about looks with women.

And that's very true. I agree with that. I would say I wouldn't want to be a 10. I just want to be who I am. Okay, who cares about that. Well, you didn't want to just be who you are.

You took all kinds of classes. I mean, stop with that. I mean, the way I look. I want to look. Right, right. I never want to change you. Right. Like, you're fine with the way that you look.

Right. Yeah. And I started working out because I was little chubby. I started working out a lot a little bit of way. Looking out gives you that confidence. I think the main thing is confidence.

Right. Girls can build that. If you step up to a girl and you have this extreme amount of confidence, they like that. They feed off of that. Like if you go up and you're all shy and, you know, but what about the outfits?

Wait, stop. What about the outfits that you said used to wear? Used to wear bow ties and fedores. I mean, I think this is why people thought you were gay. No. Because I think you're thinking like a fedora like Indiana Jones. Right. It doesn't look like that.

It's a different kind of hat. So you just dressed really well, okay? So people thought I was gay. You took etiquette classes? on, didn't you say that? Yeah, I did. I wanted to learn how to eat. Like, if I was in a fancy restaurant with a girl,

I want to know what pork is the south fork and what fork is the dinner fork. I want to know. You want to know how to cut a steak like a man. Let me tell you, the biggest turn off to me, I'm a foodie, right? And if I go out to dinner with a guy and we're eating steak,

then he holds his fork and knife, like, improperly, I think it's really bad. For real. And if he chews with his mouth open, I don't like that. see i told you and most guys don't think in our minds we don't think that like oh there's a fake I'm gonna you pick it up they're not thinking much the girl the person if go on the date you're in a job interview is you gonna get the job or you're not yeah some girls don't care though

some girls don't care as much you know but some girls do on certain things so you got to be on your game on all things right because you wanted to pick up all girls so you had to do you had to do the etiquette classes for the girls like me who are into that shit. You had to do the wine to the dancing classes for the girls who were into the wine.

You had to do the dance classes for the party girls. You wanted to do the pick up women thing just to maybe give you more information, right? You said you became a metrosexual because to pick up girls, but like do you, or did you really become a metrosexual

because you were the way you were raised? I think it was a little bit of both. I mean, I was raised like a woman, so I had to read kind of a little metrosexual, but after I, you know, I graduated, graduated, college and I got my own place and stuff. It just carried on with me.

And I was like, wait, maybe I am a little metrosexual. And then, are you not? You're almost gay. You got, right. What bachelor house has, you know, a clean house and you're stuck in your shirt in. Right. And so you would. But wait, so you would say that you would like really keep tabs on women and you would

write stuff down and you remember, right? And that would be like your thing. I used to have this black book It's funny because it's a black book But it was a sketchbook Because I went to art school But I got a sketchbook And it was before iPhones had the notes

And before, you know You couldn't just carry a laptop And then excuse me And open up your laptop Well that's another big thing You got to remember people's names The biggest thing is remember people's names Well listen most guys

Come on, but listen, most guys, I mean, how hard is it to remember one or two girls' names? I mean, how many girls were you with that you had to remember it was hard for you to remember their names? Wait, you have to, because, okay, let me try and get through with it. So you, I mean, you at the bar. Hey, how you doing? Hey, how are you doing?

And I see you. And then we don't fuck or anything that night, but I got the seed planet. Next time I see, so, and I talked to you for maybe a couple seconds, how you doing? What are you drinking? and, you know, some water, okay. So then the next time I go to the same bar,

and I see you as like, hey, someone said you still drinking the water, huh? And then normally, you remember, you remember, you remember, you know, even if I don't want to fuck you, you're going to put a good word into me for me, for all your friends. You think? Your friend went, yeah, so your friend comes to you the next time, the third time we're at the bar, and I walk up to you again, and say, hey, you drink water again. You're like, oh, no, hey, here's my friend. Right, so what you're saying is because you remember things.

It's, like, more personal. It really seems like you're actually interesting. And that's what I used to write down in the book. Not the girl that I was with, but the girls that were potentially going to be with. Right. The girls that you were with, you were just remember because you liked them. You didn't have to write it down? I would hope.

And like there was, you could only have five girls at a time. Mm-hmm. Like, not like sexually, but like on your list at a time. You have one main one that you spend all your time with. and then you have four other ones, four side chicks. Right, but you definitely, I mean, let's not disappoint, okay, like I'm hoping that you fucked a lot of them too, right? Like, you're not one of these guys that's like, oh, I just wanted them to like,

like I had my last guy from last week. I'm going to post it this week probably. Like literally was like he didn't like to screw any girls. Like he had this thing. I'm just saying like all of this sort of classes you took and everything. I mean, you were getting laid like crazy, right? And it goes back. when I was...

The answer is yes, right? Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, okay, good. But the reason why I'm not married and I don't have any kids because it goes back to my mom is when I turned 13. My aunt used to bring bags of rubbers home. 30-40 rubbers in a bag. Here you go.

I don't want to know. Here you go. I don't want to know. I give them to all my friends. I always have rubbers. So I always practice face sex. I never not have sex without a rubber until my girlfriend now. Right.

Okay. They wanted to make sure that you don't have a baby like your mom. Right. They were really good. Yeah, I didn't trust women, so I wasn't going to have sex without a brother. So you always practice sex, but you had, you said. But I had a lot of sex. So all those girls, you, all those five other girls, you would have one main girl, four side girls, but you would be sleeping with all them.

Would these girls get upset with you? Because like they thought you were their boy, like, I mean. Well, if you're good, they don't. Right. Well, would they? So were you that good? I don't know. I was that good.

That's what I'm calling me in. that's why this is happening. Because you're teaching guys, I mean, I'm always trying to think the angle of this call and how I'm going to title it. Is this like Don Juan tells you how to, you know, with the art of picking up women? No, no, no, no. It is possible and you don't want to be the doucheback. But also, I think it's very important that you're a six, right?

You're a solid sex. Like here's this guy who's a sex, right? Who was able to have like the Playboy life kind of. Beautiful women ever. Even my buddies are like, damn, how'd you do that? Damn. And you don't say that, and you're like, she's a nice girl.

You don't think, ah, she's a nice girl. Because you don't want to. Okay, so the rules, the book of one. Yeah. The number one rule in that book is never, ever talk about you being a player because that's dushy. It's dushy to the girls and it's duchy to your friend. Totally.

Your buddies want to hear all the girls you fuck, but they don't want to like, damn, that's gross. Uh-huh You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh Around men They're like, hey He fucked good girl

He fucked that girl But after a while I'm like Yeah that's what it doesn't fuck girls And then they tell their friends And their friends And their friends tell their friends And then you're labeled

Yeah Mm-hmm Right So you never ever Ever ever Like a fight club Okay that's a rule Another one is

You gotta be nice to everybody Number two You got to be nice to everybody No matter who it is Because eventually They're going to work for you They're going to get They're friends, their, whatever it is, you're going to bang them.

Even if I thought I'm going to bang you, you're going to say, now, that dude's cool. Okay, well, let me just ask you real quick, because this is what I'm thinking in my head while you're talking. Like, okay, these are sometimes people are just this way naturally, right? But are you saying that, like, you want to, like you're sitting there and even if you want to be truthful and maybe be mean to somebody or maybe you're angry about something that you hold it in and you just act phony nice to everybody? Yes. You have to It's a job I told you

I'm sorry I'm sorry if you got me in the bar And you were asking me The questions you were asked me Before and you were like And I was saying rude shit to you And you were still being nice to me I would see right through it

How would you why would you say something rude to me though Because I'm kind of crass Because if you started Okay let's why don't you start asking me the questions And I'm going to answer them And I want to see what you come up with Right because and I'll tell you truthfully if you're right because you have a way of questioning a woman right?

No, because right now you're already on the edge. I can't just come up to you. No, no, no, but you were asking me the questions before. No, you were asked me the questions before and you said, because you asked me very random questions and I'm like, where's this going? And you're like, this tells me something. So I want to, I want you to ask me the questions.

And then I want to see what it told you. And I'll tell you if you're right. You can't do that because you already know what I'm going to ask. And you already know what's going on. If you're just in a bar drinking and, Yeah. Waiting for a friend to show up and I just hop there. You're not thinking, oh, my God, this guy's going to come with me.

No, but, okay, but you were asking me the questions anyway. These are the questions you asked me. I'm just going to go through it, okay, because I want to see why you ask. I want to give an example of the questions that you ask, and I want to give an example of what you take from that. But those questions I was asking were for me, not for you. Like, they were for me to figure out if I wanted to talk to you the rest of the night. If not, then, do you mean the rest of the night? There's no, no, no, no, no.

Okay, you were at, you asked me if I wore braces. Can you tell me why you would ask somebody that? Well, I'll ask you because I can't see you. Okay, but so you want to know if I have nice teeth. I think I'm like, man, you have pretty teeth. Okay. Okay. Do you have braces?

Oh, no, these are natural. Oh, yeah. I have braces my whole life, you know. Because if you have braces, that means your family, you weren't poor. Okay. Okay. So then the second question was, what kind of wine do you drink? The third question was what kind of?

Right. And if you said, if you said, you, you didn't have braces, and I wouldn't have to ask what kind of wine you drink, I would say, what's your, the best alcoholic, you know, alcoholic beverage, adult beverage that you like. Why, you think that people that could afford braces drink wine and people that can afford braces drink hard liquor? Okay. If you want to get your thumb braces now, that's five grand.

Mm-hmm. Not everybody has five grand for their kid's braces. And if you do, you're not trained. Okay, but what does that have to do with that kid, whether what that kid's going to drink when they're older? No, but I'm saying A lot of people can't afford places Okay, but what does it have to do

With what they drink? Because you were raised In a while for your family You're not drinking the crap that Normal people are drinking You're drinking wine You're not drinking Oh my God, I drank tequila and vodka

And I was raised in a place that was My family was able to afford braces Always top shop But I'm a girl, you have to understand women You have to understand dude, women aren't paying for their drinks. So it doesn't really go by like... That's why I want to know where you're at because

if I know, I'm paying drinks all night and I'm behind fucking me, I'm out. Right. Okay, but let's go back to your being fake because I think this is kind of funny. So the point is yes, you have to be fake. Even if you're angry at someone, even if you don't feel like being nice, like you put it on. It's like it's an act is what you're saying. It's not like

you are this way. So I accept you and you're being, you know, and hey, well, first of up, I would I know you. I don't think I to you like a normal guy. I'd have to have some kind of background, you know, something, an Ian from one of your friends or something. No, I just think that, come on.

Yeah, yeah. Right. Not that I'm just complicated. I also am very perceptive, right? It's actually like I see through people. So I feel like that's why I was asking you whether it was phony or not, or if you're just that way. If I walked up to you, if I walked up to you and you're by yourself drinking,

what's the scenario? You're there, by yourself drinking or something? Yeah, I don't drink. I'm at a bar, but I'm drinking water. Okay, so I walk up to you and I'm, and I see you. So I, I, I, I scoop it out for a little bit. I'm just not going to be walking out to you. Right, so you see me?

I'm by myself at a bar and I'm drinking water. I'm with another man. No, I'm there by myself drinking water, okay? Right. At a bar. And I walk up to you and I'm like, I get my tab because I've been drinking down on the other side of the bar. A bartender, can I have my tab?

And I'm right next to you. You smile me. Boom. And I say, I look at you and I say, hey, what's up? And either you're going to say, what's up, you're going to be like, what's it to you? And in those first couple of seconds, you know that lady, she was attracted to you, or if you're going to, it's going to be a battle. Yeah, with me, it's always a battle. I'm not very open to just.

So I say, how are you doing? What are you going to say? Great. Great. And then I'm trying to my tab with, like, well, I'm on my way out. Can I get your drink? And I say, no, I don't drink. I'm just, no, I don't drink.

Okay. I'm done. I'll come around here often. I'll see you later. Okay, bye. And that's it. But we embed each other. That's the first step. And I can see you again at that same bar. I walk up to you and be like, hey, how's going? Okay. Walk away.

It's going to be the girl who picks me. The problem is not the problem that I'm having with you. Listen to me. Okay, listen. Okay, the problem that I'm focusing on is not about what you're actually saying or what you're doing, okay? It's that you're being phony. That's all that. There has to be some girls

that have called you out and they realize that you're not as nice as you're acting. Yeah, they do. Of course they do. Do you know how many women are out there, though? I know, so that's what I'm just saying that a lot of girls probably call you out

or like this is bullshit because it is kind of, it's fake. What would you call me out on? I just asked you if you want to drink and you say you don't drink. Because it's all of it. No, like I would be. How come I can't be?

Right here. This is what I would call you out. We're like oil and water. We're already arguing and I'm not even in person with you. Like if this is what we're doing in real life, I would be like we don't get along. Do you understand? I've had this issue. And then you'll see me again and you'd be like, hey, what's up?

No, I'd be like that's the irritating guy that's like cutting me off and doesn't agree with anything I say. I'm not interested. Do you understand? We're talking about it. No, but you're like, right. But I'm just saying that like, um, I'm just trying, I'm just saying the whole, like you're very, what I like about you is you're very honest with your stuff and you're very like, and you admit like I love when you said, is it phony? And you said yes. Like it's a total phony bullshit. So all I'm saying is that when a girl, because when it's phony, right? Like, and girls pick up on it. You just move on, I'm assuming, just somebody else. You kind of need girls that aren't really aware. You can't get it. You can't get away with that with, I think, older women. Or maybe you, you, you, you can because they're kind of desperate sometimes.

I don't know. Yes. And plus, like, well, at first I didn't do this, but later on, like four or five years and then I would tell them, I'm going to date you for like two, three months and then we're done. You're going to have the time of your life. You're going to have this time of your rule. Wait. So if you're going to have the time of your life for two or three months, then we can proceed.

If not, then it's not worth it. Okay, but that goes against your rule. Isn't that the rule of, like, not telling a girl you're a player? Like, isn't that basically telling a girl you're a player? You're saying I'm going to screw you for two months and then I'm going to leave. What does that mean? What is that? What is that?

What is that? For two, three months. We're going to go to the best concerts. Okay, but that is showing your car. That's kind of showing a girl that you're not really like Prince Charming coming to woo her. But they think I am. You're so wrapped up and do it. You're like, oh, okay, I'll do it.

I would have been. This is, I think that this is tactics for younger women and maybe desperate. I don't know. No, no, you know why you wouldn't do it? Why? Because I'm not trying to fuck you right now. Okay. No, I've had guys like you.

I've had guys like you. I know the deal. Listen, I'm way old. I'm even older than you, and I've been around the block. I fucked a lot of guys. And I was a player as a woman. So I totally get it. You can't play a player, okay?

Every guy has told me you're five steps ahead of me. That's the problem with you. Guys don't like me because I'm too smart. So it doesn't work, okay? Go on to the girl down the bar stool, too, for me that's drinking. Okay, it's going to help with her. Because girls drink. And they get a little drunk and then you can take advantage of them.

But I'm not drunk, okay? So he doesn't work. You know what are you getting back? No, not at all. You know why you're trying to argue with me on it? I argue with everyone. Do you listen to my podcast? I do because you realize I probably could fuck you.

Oh my God. You're like delusional. What happened? What happened? You made me laugh? I don't know. Is that what you're trying to do? I think that is the first thing.

If you can make a girl laugh, you're in. Yeah, but I think. on some level you actually believe that and that would make me feel like you're like psychotic and that would be irritating. So you couldn't get me but I'm a lot older and I'm not, I love being alone

so for me I only will be with a guy if I really like him. So this is like I think that this works for women that are young. Okay, this whole player thing, this is all I'm saying. I don't really promote people being phony and like fake to get women. I think

it's a dysfunction and it came from you being hurt really bad, right, by two girls. Eventually, when you have, and you fucked over a lot of women, so on some level, it was coming from like not that good of a place, okay? And I don't. No, it wasn't. Right. So I don't think that that's that great, right?

So I'm in. At the beginning it was, but later on, I didn't, I didn't fuck them over because I wanted to fuck them again and again and again and again. Right. But then eventually you met a girl, right, who really changed your life and you date. her and now you're back to being like who you probably always were before well who you always were listen I acted out and I was like really slutty and I was really terrible with guys and a lot of things before I was who I really was because I was heard a lot and stuff happened to me too so I get

that right and but I know who I am now is who I always was when I was really little but things are put on you and then you you act out and you act different you try to be strong by creating this fake mask, right? And you put on yourself. So all that stuff that you were doing was kind of like, you know, a mask. It was fake. It was like hiding the hurt and the stuff that happened to you, right? So I don't know that we should promote it as the way guys should be because, yeah, these kind of things, these little things will get women. But I think what gets women more than anything is if you're genuinely a nice guy, if you genuinely like women. And if you want. But what we talk? And you're available.

Are we talking about dating somebody, getting married with somebody? No, I'm talking about if you're picking up chicks. No, I'm talking about picking up chicks. It's got to be a genuine, like, my girlfriend now, she totally knows who I am. Exactly. Do you think she would have fallen for all that bullshit? I have a future with her. Right.

Is that a girl, I don't really care. Right, but I mean. I'm trying to bang them. Right. So this is like, so it's for guys to bang us. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

Right. If you want to get married, it's a totally different, you should have to be you. Not even just get married. You have to have confidence. Absolutely. But you're saying, like I said, the problem I, like, I don't know, like those, you read pickup books and stuff, and there are different tactics that you could play with girls to get girls. And it's just a game.

And it does work, right? So if you want to fuck a lot of girls, you could go. And see, I just don't live in that world. So it's like, I forget that women are drunk. You're getting them. They're out. in about they're younger, they're looking for a relationship. So they have a tendency to fall for this kind of stuff.

And I'm sure I did when I was younger, you know, so it's hard for me to remember. So yeah, guys, you have to be phony. You have to be nice. This is where I got, you lost me when you're like, you just be nice all the time to everybody. Like, I just like, really? Like you can't, can't you be all those things but be like super real and be like a real person? I don't have to be if I'm going to marry you, but I'm not marrying these girls. I'm nice all the time, but I'm only nice for like a half hour.

Right, but do you really think, okay, but do you really think that it was like all the other girls before this one were not right and they deserved to be treated that way and this is the one? Or do you think that you actually finally somehow like healed yourself or got to a place where you were ready to like have the balls to be who you really are again and take a chance, you know, with a, in a, in a, a relationship and then that girl showed up and then you're with her. Like I'm sure out of all, I mean, what are the odds that of all the girls you fuck? Like, not one was worthy enough to date you. I think that this girl just

met you at the right time when you were actually really finally ready again. It was totally the right time because there's probably girls just as good as her. Of course. Come on. It's a numbers game, right? Maybe if you dated five girls in your life, maybe not. But you were dating five girls a week.

No, five Yeah, right. And then they switch out, rotate. Yeah, exactly. So you had a lot of girls. How many girls do you think you fucked in your life? Like, if you had to give a number, if you had to estimate. But I slept with?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just fucked. 200, maybe? Okay. Mm-hmm. So out of all those girls, what are the odds that none of them were like girlfriend material? Probably a lot of them were girlfriend material.

Yeah. Probably all were. Mm-hmm. But I wasn't ready at that. Exactly. So this girl, you treated differently because, not because she was the, like, it was more because you were ready and then she was actually compatible with you. Because she knew me before all of this.

She was my high school, remember? Oh, right. Okay. So she didn't know Don Juan. Mm-hmm. You know, she knew the true me. Right. So you felt comfortable.

I couldn't, she knew what I've been through so I couldn't pull any tricks on her. She knew. Right. No, but that's good. But you also knew her. You also knew her and that helps with you because you had trust issues with women. Yeah, yeah. And it kind of sucks for her because when we go out, I know, like, tons of people, mostly girls.

So, you know, my girlfriend, she's a real, like, she's real beautiful. What does she scale of one to ten? She's a ten. Okay. And she has that, I like her because she has that timeless beauty. Like, you know, you see an old couple, and you look at the lady, and he's like, man, she's 80 years old and she's still hot. Yeah, totally. Uh-huh.

She's got that kind of. She's going to be timeless beauty. Right. She's always going to be able. If she's got ugly, it doesn't matter because her personality is out of control. Right. You like, you really love her. Right.

That's great. And you said something really chart. Like I would just, like you said something like her big child change your life. Like what happened with her child? It's her. Okay. So he actually, it's his birthday this weekend. I had a big party.

But anyway, he, it was two years into his relationship before, actually, a year and a half before I met him. Uh-huh. I didn't want to meet him because I didn't trust myself because I don't want to meet this young dude another part of this relationship. And he didn't do anything, Danny. Right. And you want to leave. Right. Okay.

So eventually when his dad's still in his life, which is cool because I never had that. Yeah. But in the back of my mind, is she talking to her, his dad because she's still fucking in? Right. Because of my past. Of course. My dad is still fucking me up mentally. Of course.

That's a very hard. thing when you, when the rug pulls from underneath you not to feel that same way, not to have it be a trigger. Absolutely. Is she cool with that questioning and stuff? Like, is she, because she knows your history? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I said, it's good

and it's bad. It's bad because we go out and all these girls, these hot girls come. Hey, how you doing? Hey, what's up? This is my girlfriend. And they look at me like, huh? And then, yeah, we've been together for a couple years. Just moved them together. This is so-and-so. And then right

Did they leave? My girlfriend's like, what age was she in? Where did she block her at? So she knows that you did have a Dodwan phase. Oh, hell of you. Right. Well, she knew because we had the same friends. We had the same group of friends.

The reason why I start talking to her again is because one of our mutual friends died and she was at the funeral. And I went to the funeral and she was there and I was like, oh, my God, this woman is freaking gorgeous. Right. I'm doing everything I can to be with this girl. Right. Did you know at the time? Let me ask you this.

Did you know at the time that you were ready for a relationship or no? No. No, I didn't. Not at all. You just thought you were going to play another girl? My player. Right. Yeah.

And then her friend, which is also our friend in high school, one of her, another friend, I started talking to her and she was like, you know, she's not like that. She's like, you know, I want to say she's naive, but she's not the girl to go out there people with all these guys. Right. Uh-huh. She's nerdy. She's nerdy.

Mm-hmm. So she's not like the other girls I would go for, but she's like a nerd and a supermodel package. Right, right? Right. Because she looks like the hot as like girl, but like she doesn't have the hot girl personality or the hot girl mentality. Yeah. And she doesn't think like, she's hot. Right.

I'll buy on your shirt a little bit. We'll get some free size at McDonald's. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to pimp her out like, come on, dude, hook it up. Yeah, yeah. And the reason I'm a six and she's a 10, but if you think about all the funny guys have hot wives.

Funny goes a long way from men. Absolutely. I think most men know that women want to be, I mean, I think if a man makes you love. There was, I worked for a company once, and there was the ugliest guy, like the ugly. Like, he looked like the, on a scale of 1 to 10, he was a negative 6, okay?

He was that ugly. But he was the funniest guy on the point. plenty like so funny like I can't even tell you and when I finally met him in person because we did a lot of conference calls and stuff and he just made me laugh more than anybody and he had the best person on me was so nice in the way he talked to you I spent like a week with him because I worked at this festival we were spending time and Aspen together and like I literally like got horny for him and I was like my whole life I would have to like kind of explain to people ahead of time like you don't understand you're going to meet my guy and he's really disgusting looking but like you just have to give a time because you'll get it because people would be like what the hell are you doing with him? because he looked like such a troll, but he was the funniest motherfucker on the planet, and that's what it was. And let me tell you, that guy married a very pretty girl.

He got a pretty girl because that's how powerful, funny is. Plus, he had your way of being with women, but he wasn't phony. Do you understand? The best way to be, I think, with women, stop, just let me finish, is to be really nice, really interested. Because, like, listen,

if you're really interested in what a woman says and you're really actually listening to her, you don't have to write it down in a fucking book, okay? so he was actually just like that naturally and that's why he made me horny for him and that's how he got married to a hot girl and yeah he probably didn't have five girls a week and he wasn't fucking them but he could still get chicks because he was a funny genuine nice guy you know but you learned the hard way it's not good to be funny and nice at a young age because you got cheated on right where did that get you nowhere right but but you're saying that he married a hot girl but maybe he was looking for marriage the whole time I wasn't looking for marriage I was looking just to bang chicks. Right. Well, you were so petrified. You would try to marry a girl and you had everything ready.

You were looking for marriage at a very young age, actually. And then you got screwed. Yeah. Like hardcore. And that's like a very hard thing to get past. I totally understand why you went down the path that you did. So back to my girlfriend. So before I met him, her for kids, he, uh...

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she, I was like borderline. nah, am I ready for this? Maybe, maybe not. And then I met this little dude, and oh my God. This kid seriously changed everything I thought about. Immediately after I met him, I was like, I'm moving in.

We're going to eventually, in my mind, I'm going to marry this girl. Right. That's so cute. This little guy changed everything I did in the last 43 years. He's only five. and here's probably a problem about it. I think I'm still with her just because of him. Right.

Well, do you still like her? Yeah, she is just like, I think I'm a cake. You know what I mean? Like, he's the cake. Right. She's always going to be there and she's always going to be beautiful. There's always beautiful girls. We always be there.

But he, I think he was what I was looking for. Really? Oh, and how long have you been in his life for now? Like, how long have you been closer? So I met him when he was. two and a half and he's going to be six in next month so does he call you dad no so here's he called me about my real name oh right because she has a dad yes and and and he's at six he's kind of kind of figure out like why they don't know that him and his mom had his dad and his mom had sex right

uh-huh like they don't he didn't know the relationship of of that he just thinks that's his mom they don't live with each other. Yeah. So he, and then, I was talking to me, and I was like, you know, I would be your stepdaddy? I said, I could be your stepdad if I marry your mom. He's like, no, I kind of like my dad. I'm like, no, it's not going to change that. Right.

I love your dad and go for it. I said, it's not going to change. You know, then I figured, I can't explain it to a five-year-old. Yeah, not yet. Do you want to have kids with her? Am I going to have kids with her? Yeah. No, actually, we're older.

Oh, okay, right, right. So, but that would be cool with you to, is to, like, have. Oh, my, I always tell her, I want a daughter. Right. Mm-hmm. How old is she? Because I'm with my girlfriend. Yeah.

23. Or 43. Oh, I'm like 23. She's going to have a baby if you breathe on her. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. She can still have a baby, you know, if she wanted.

Well, we're at the high school together, remember we're at the same age. Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Right. So, but it's just a little dude. I mean, this is probably going to be a boring podcast because it's about love.

I found love with this little boy. Yeah, I mean, listen, this is the thing because I'm going to wrap up, but we're at, I know, you're a player, but you didn't. No, this is the thing, though, and this is why it's so interesting. This is why, like, you can never, this is why I like to talk to people and I like to get backstory because people maybe, if they only knew you in your Don Juan life and they never really talked to you and they never really got your backstory. Like, if you came up and hit on me with your dumb lines and when I was drinking water,

I'd probably find out in the 20 minutes that you got cheated on and we'd have this exact conversation just at the bar and you wouldn't hit on me and you'd tell me and the next day you'd go find the girl of your dreams and I'd help you. That's who I've always been. But like the whole thing to me that's more interesting is that like, you know, if you don't really talk to people and you just judge them by what they do and this goes for slutty women too. Like people judge them like oh they're so silly. You don't know what people have gone through that's making them act the way that they are. Most people, especially players and guys that are treating a lot of women, there's some pain involved there. So there's something. They're going through something, you know, a lot of the times.

So, and that's what the deal is, and that's who you are. So instead of being a podcast of like what guys should do to pick up girl, I don't know. I don't, I think this is more a story about like a reformed Don Juan. Dr. Guy's been on my show and he's just a womanizer that's in the middle of his womanizing ways. And we don't know how he changes himself, you know. but you're somebody who you know came you know

at the end of that story which I think is great and I think it you know it shows that you can change and you can go back to who you are what's the but that you still and that's why I said and that's why in the email I said I'm reformed and I love this kid

but it's hard not to talk to women when they come up to you but you've never cheated do you think that eventually you will is that what you're saying or eventually you'll leave this relationship to go back out there? I don't know. That's the problem.

I don't know. Okay. So this is what I suggest. This is what I think. Because I think maybe you fuck so many women, okay, and you're 43. I think you should be sort of winding down a little bit in life. So I think if you still have that desire to go out and get girls, I think you might have still some unresolved issues of the stuff that happened to you in your past.

And maybe if you talk to someone about that, like went into a little therapy on the side once a week. Okay. Okay. No, you should be still. That maybe it would help you, maybe not to that. Maybe, but maybe, listen, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know which way this would go. Like, maybe you don't eat therapy. Maybe eventually you'll just have a relationship for a couple more years and then you'll go back out there because that's what you need to do and you need to be with more women. I don't know. But you should continue to. I don't think. I need to be with more women. Okay, so then you should, then if you're having the urge and everything, and you're not doing anything, you're not a cheater by nature, right? And I get the sense of that and you don't want to, but you're worried because it's out there. Maybe just talk to somebody because maybe, first of all, I think it's normal to want women to like you and have your ego fed and everything. But I think it's very natural when you've been hurt in the past, no matter how much you

have healed or gotten past it. I don't think you are and you might still have some unresolved issues and what happens to people when they have that is when they start to get serious or feel close or maybe the relationship is really great, they could sabotage without even knowing it. They start to get bored or this little itch and you have to worry about it. You just have to make sure that doesn't happen to if you like this girl and you want to stay with her. So now when I go, when I'm not thinking about talking to a girl, I always remember a little

dude in my mind. Is that normal? Yes, but if it gets, stops most people. I don't know. You go to somebody and you're like, oh, I can't, I can't fuck her because my wife pops in their head. Or is it just, you just don't do it? Is it not a thought? No, I think that, you know, it's hard.

Listen, I've never been married. I've never been with, you know, I have my own issues. I've talked about it a lot of my podcast. So, you know, but I'm very monogamous by nature. But for men, like, I think like men that are monogamous and have been in a long time relationships, they, like, I have a boss that I used to work with who are very good friends. And he's married to his college sweetheart. and they have a greatest relationship and he's never cheated on her.

But he calls me up and tells me about this one flirted with him and he questions it like a high school guy. You know, and I think in the moment that he's talking to me, he's living in that sort of place of ego of feeling good about himself. And I think that that's very normal. And I don't think there's anything wrong with it. What stops him from doing something? I think because he could never live a double life and he loves his wife and he just wouldn't do that. You know what I mean? And that's what it is.

you know, if you feel like it's the boy right now, I don't know. I think you have to like think maybe it's that you love her. Maybe you're afraid to face that. Maybe it is just the boy. Maybe you need to eventually, if you do wind up looking at other women, maybe she's not the one and you need to go have a baby with someone else because maybe you just really want a kid. Maybe you're projecting onto him because you never had a dad

and there's this thing that's going on with, but is probably very healing for you. There's a lot of things that could be going on. When I first started dating her, some of the hater women found out I found somebody and they did everything to try to break us up Of course because they probably couldn't believe

that you were going to be any different with her Okay, they were probably working. And it was hard. She thought I was cheat on her like twice And I was like no and like She knew who I was Some shit popped off and she was like How do I know you did do that?

You know what I mean? That's your MO. Of course because that's who you always were But like with I know because you're being completely honest and here, why not? You know, I changed your voice. You know, I don't know who you are. You know, so why would you not tell me? You know, you're admitting to it.

So, you know, we all know that you're not. But I could see why she wouldn't believe you. I could see why the other girls wouldn't believe you, you know, and why she would have an issue. And I also see why you would think she's cheating on you. You know, you both have a little distrust with each other going on. I suggest if you want to turn this relationship into a successful marriage or you think she's the one that you should just continue to talk to someone just to figure things out because I think maybe you just don't know. When you say to me, like, is it the kid that's keeping me?

Is it not? Like, you know that... It's a kid right now. Okay. But I don't know that... I don't know that I'd want to be with a guy that's just with me because of my kid. Like, I would want him to feel like he's with me because he loves me and the baby maybe would be icing.

I don't think it should be the opposite way or the other way around. Maybe that just means you want a son of your own or a daughter of your own. and maybe it's not with her maybe this relationship has played its course and maybe you need, I don't know. I don't know enough because we've focused so much for like an hour on like your Don Juan ways that now

we're getting a little bit more personal. This is the stuff that I like even more with your sort of issues and stuff. Right. With your relationship. But I really think that you should probably just so that you don't

sabotage something and ruin something that's like really great. because let me tell you one thing that I've seen with people who have, like, trust issues, that a lot of times they had, like, one relationship in their life that really worked, and I'd always be like, well, you know, you had that person and that works, so why can't you do it again? But I really, when you really look at it, you realize that they knew that person, they were their friend before, and there were something in the history that made them able to trust them. It wasn't like they just met a total stranger and trusted them.

I think that you would never be able, at this point in your life, because to meet a total stranger that you don't know anything about, and trust them because of what's happened to you in the past. I think it works with this girl and you've been able to trust her because she's somebody from your past that you met and you knew her. And let me tell you, that's a hard thing to find. Not only someone from you, listen, you can find people from your past, but the fact that you're going to think of the most beautiful person in the world, the way you talk about her is, you know, you're really taken by her. Like to find somebody who you know, who you trust, who you're also attracted to. That's going to be hard for you to find.

so if you ruin it by cheating on her you could have a problem but I ran on for lunch real quick and she looked beautiful and I looked walked in I was like man I think you look beautiful today I like that dress and in her mind I was playing her I was just going to say did you really feel that

was that really truthful it was truthful from when she walked out I was like that's my girlfriend over there right so you're being genuine with her you're being genuine with her right and so listen I think in her mind she was like oh he's playing me Because every time I say she's beautiful, she doesn't say anything back.

No, but she loves it. If she doesn't say you're trying to do anything, and you really mean it genuinely and you don't, you know, say phony shit to her like you say to other girls, I think that girls know. A lot of women have a hard time with compliments. I don't know what to say back when someone compliments me, but it doesn't mean that I don't love it, okay?

So I think that she doesn't say anything back because she's probably just uncomfortable with compliments. A lot of girls are like that. So I think that it's fine. You should continue doing that. You never cheat on her, but I personally think, and I think you should, if you ever have the urge, you should

talk to someone about it because before you ruin this relationship, you should try to figure out more what you're feeling. And I think in order to do that, you may need a little help and you just need a little bit more social, because I think you have still some issues from the past, which we all have, okay? That's just fucking life, you know?

But you're lucky, okay, because you found this girl, you're lucky that you have this great relationship with her son. and I think you, you know, you owe it to yourself and to her and her son to like, make sure you sort out your feelings just so that you stay doing the right thing in this relationship. Do you know what I mean? Right.

And figure it out. Right? So I don't know what I'm going to title this, but I will know better. When I re-listen to it, it always sounds totally different to me, and then I'll know how to pitch it and what the title is going to be. But it's interesting because it's been like about two, separate things, you know. It's been about like how to pick up chicks and everything.

We were going there, but then once, I don't know, and then it took a turn because I was just like, oh, this is all bullshit, you know? And then it was a little bit more personal about, like, problems that most don't want to have. So this will be a good episode. Just keep, stay tuned to see what I, what I label it as or title it as of my description.

But I'll probably air it this Sunday and I'll send you a link when it's up and I'll remember to change your voice. Thanks so much for calling in. Thanks for listening. Okay, cool, good luck with everything. All right. Bye.

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