Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1365 - Vanessa & Her Husband are Into Couple Swapping, Threesomes, Water Sports & More

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Vanessa and her husband are into ffm threesomes, couple swapping, water sports and more and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including her first experience with a girl and how far they went, when her husband first copped to being into water sports, their first water sport experience and what went down, the first woman she met who she went all the way with and exactly what went down, how her husband felt when she told him she had hooked up with her without him knowing, how and when they started getting into the lifestyle, their first swingers party they attended and exactly what went down, how she loved being watched by people and how they both felt seeing each other with other people, the first couple they hooked up with outside of the club and what went down with them, how and why they’re don’t want to play solo, how and why she got a therapist to help them to navigate their open marriage even though they have no issues plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of DOVE plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at ⁠347-420-3579⁠. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2605-anonymous ⁠⁠⁠ Get your personalized road map to pleasure ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://loadboost,com⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get the Butter massager and get 20% off your whole order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠t⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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but they did so many different things before that. She talked about how and when they first met, how he was into water sports and how he brought it up. And then what they did with, in regards to water sports, because they got into it. She was into it. she's really into women. She talks about her experience with women and then how they started to hook up with women when she was married. She kind of cheated on her husband with a girl. She talks about

that. And then they eventually get into the lifestyle. And she goes into that whole story. She talks about the first experience at a club and then the experience with the couples that they have hooked up with. And she talks about when they plan and what they plan on doing in the future. She's a lot of fun. She's got a lot of really great stories. She loves being in the lifestyle. She feels like she found her place in life. She's super happy and she talks all about it. You're going to love her stories. But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Vanessa. Hi, Vanessa. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today?

I'm doing good Vanessa. I'm doing good Kathy Kay. How you doing? Listen, I should have made up a fake name. I mean, my real name isn't Kathy Kay, but like I should have made up a better fucking name for myself. I like Vanessa. Vanessa's your fake name. That's why you can't get it right. Right. Exactly. I'm like Vanessa. Oh yeah. That's me. Yeah, that's you. That's quote on. You're quote unquote, Vanessa. And Vanessa, you got a lot of stuff going on. I love girls that are into all kinds of things.

We're going to talk about your husband and how you guys got into water sports. We're going to talk about you sizzering your friend and cheating with her. I don't know what that means. We're going to talk about some sort of something you call a panty deal. And we're going to talk about you and your husband getting into the lifestyle during COVID or after COVID or some shit like that. But we'll go in like chronological order, right? Hell yeah. So we start with like when you met your husband and got into water.

sports? I don't know. Where do you want to start? Yeah, well, let's go ahead and start from the beginning. Growing up in the 90s, like, you know, it was a different time then. I feel like that was when we were kind of evolving into like sex in the city and truth cab confessions and the bunny ranch. All these shows were on when I was growing up and it really, really like opened my eyes into a different, I guess you can call it the lifestyle. And when I was exposed to that, it was just like, it looked more, It made sense to me. It seemed more comfortable. It seemed more exciting.

It just seemed like, wow, I wanted to be an adult. And get on it. And get on it. Exactly. Yeah. And so seeing these women who are just confident and independent, it really, like, planted a seed in me. And so when I was growing up, my first experience was actually with a woman.

It was actually from Truth or Dare. And she, yeah, she showed me a little bit of here and there during the, like, a bathroom, him scenery and I don't know. So anyway, so that kind of like explored my sexuality with women. And did you like it? Oh my God. I love it. I was like, how is this not normal? Like, how was this like? How far did you go? Wait, how far did you go with her in the bathroom? Oh, dude. Like, it was like, it wasn't like full on, but you know, we couldn't, so I couldn't just touch her, right? I had to be a dare. So I had to dare to touch her pussy. I had a dare to touch her ass. I had a dare touch her tits. And it was just really sexy to me. And I was just like, I've never experienced this

before. And it was just like, it just opened my eyes. It was like fireworks. It was just like, oh my God, like, I love this feeling. I love the feeling of a woman's touch. I love a feeling, but at the same time, I love the feeling of a man's touch. So it was just something like, how do you like both, right? And so that's kind of where I was experiencing. when I was growing up. Just what do I like, what I don't like. And then on top of that, I met my husband really early in life. So right when I hit college, we ended up meeting.

And he was, ooh, he was really, he's still sexy. But you know what I mean? Like when you first meet your, your person, it was just like, damn. You know. You know. Oh, yeah. How old were you? And how old are you now?

I was about 19. I'm 33 now. Okay. So you guys been married to it for a long time. Oh, very long time. Yes. He's my main thing, for sure. Who got who into water sports?

Oh, he definitely got me into the water sports. So he was freaky too. Oh, dude. Before I was, apparently. Like, okay, so he played it like he was like this innocent. Oh, yeah. I don't know if dated a few people. And I'm like, oh, this guy's so cute.

And I'm the opposite. I've dated a lot of people, you know. So I'm like, I'm going to have to teach him a few things here and there, you know. Oh, God God forbiddy. He asked you how many guys you fucked before him now. I'm just talking. Oh, right, right. I was like, yeah, I only fucked a few, eight, 12.

But then one day, you know, we're sitting at the college drinking some cheap-ass wine. And he just kind of confessed to me. He's like, yeah, like, you know, like water sports. But he tells, when I, when I first confessed, he was like, okay, first of all, it's not water sports, it's more like wedding. I was like, oh, okay, I'm sorry. So he got to have to school me a little bit about, like, the terminology. So his thing is wedding.

So apparently he doesn't like, his thing is more desperation. Women in clothes, fitness, needs to hold it, but can't hold it anymore, kind of situations. And so he thinks it's sexy as fuck, you know, with a girl holding her pussy and squeezing herself. Not wanting to pee, you mean. Exactly. I've heard this before. I mean, it's not a lot, but I heard it once before. I thought that was interesting.

Like, that's the part of it that he likes you holding it in. Right, right. just that desperation, you know, I have to like hold it. Yeah, and then, and then the release. So that's his thing. And so he explains it to you. Are you like, what the fuck? Are you like, like, oh, that sounds like fun.

So it was more like, oh, thank God. Because I had that my little secret where when I drink too much, I accidentally pee this on myself. Oh. You're kidding. What a weird match in heaven. Right. Okay.

So it was just that weird universe saying, you know what? You two would be a great compatible. Oh, my God. Yeah, what are the odds? Interesting. So when he was telling me this, I was just, like, laughing and relief. And I was like, well, okay, yeah. No, that's completely fine, you know. And so our first experience was at, like, a cheap-ass easy-eight hotel.

Very romantic, you know. So, you know, because we're in college, so we didn't have an actual place to really do the thing. So we ended up going to the easy, the sleazy eight. And, yeah, we ended up, you know, doing the whole role-playing. thing and he was really turned on by it. I was, and surprisingly turned on by it the way he was turned. It was just because we had sex before and I just always felt like there was something missing. Like I always felt like, you know, he was holding back a little bit. Right. And that night, it was like full on. I'm not holding back. I feel fully 100% comfortable with you. And it was

just magical because I could tell that he finally let his guard down. Right. And that was what made the sex sexy and very just sensual and romantic and hot and you know like I said you know I did the he his favorite thing is like the gray pants like so you can really see the water sport trails and anything light jeans you know anything like that is like one of his favorite his favorite is cotton because I always thought like okay yeah you want sexy thong lingerie you know like no they want cotton granny panties Yeah, they wanted to, it's just like amateur porn. They wanted to look real. They're not looking, right.

You don't need to sex it up. No. You want it to look like the real deal. Like you had an accident. Right. And so I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay, I can do this. I guess no sexy thongs. All right, you know.

But did you have fun doing it? I had a great time. Like, I've always been a person that's been very fluent. I love trying new things. I love, especially like I said, I'm a person that gets off on getting my partners off. So if it's like, if it's simple as just pissing on myself, I'm like, okay. Exactly. Like that's going to give me an orgasm, you know, because I know you're into this. So since that night, that's kind of like our go-to a little bit. We don't do it all the time, but we do it,

we do it pretty frequently. And it just opened up more doors for me and my sexuality, you know, and just like, what does this mean? Because now we're opening up other doors I've never explored. And now you could be honest with him. Did you tell him that you were into women? Yes. Oh, yes. But at that time, it was, I was going through a weird period in my life. Like, before I met him, I was kind of like in a survival mode. And because I was like independent, you know, I ended up leaving my house at 15, just really wanting to explore this life at a very early age. And so I kind of turned that off a little bit, you know, with my sexuality, because I felt Like that wasn't my main attention at that time.

But now when I'm in the safe relationship, now I feel like I'm safe. Now I feel like I'm in a period where I can actually explore myself without feeling shame or guilt. And that's where I talked to him about. We kind of talked about it a little bit. But we were just how you're just so in love with somebody. You're like, I don't want nobody else. Everybody else can fuck themselves, you know? So that's the song that we were kind of doing for a while.

And then because we've been together since, like I said, 19, 20, And we had children and we had a lot of things that happened. But before all that, we got into Panty Deal. So Panty Deal kind of opened that situation with us a little bit. So Panty Deal was a joke. Okay. So I was a barista at one point and I'm trying to figure out extra income. And I don't even know. I probably had to be like another barista talking about it. They're like, yeah, you could just sell your panties on your used panties. That was like a thing at a certain time. That was like a thing. it was like and I was like use panties like all I have to do is wear my panties and just send it off yeah I was like that that that sounds too good to be true right and so I was like let me figure this shit out

you know so I started doing my homework and yeah it was that easy like it was like really like you just had to create a profile get some sexy pictures and people were just flaunting to my page and I was just like wow this is really fucking different and then the and then I started getting requests like special requests. Hey, do you have any panties that are old with period, period blood? I know this is so gross, but like, you know what I mean? Like weird shit like that. You know what I'm just like?

Really? Really? Things that women are normally ashamed of men are very turned on by. Yeah, it's weird. Like foot fetish guy, some of them like smelly, stinky dirty feet. Like it's weird, but it exists like that and I've heard it. Yeah. Stinky fucking panties and, you know, wear them for a week and piss on them a little bit.

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Like that all these things that I used to be shamed up is like I said, somebody's turn on. And it just like I said, it's almost like it opened up this other side of confidence. Because I'm not a size two, you know. I'm like a size 14 on a good day. And the fact that these men think that they're looking at me like I'm a size two. Like they see me as this like exotic beautiful goddess. And I just never experienced that type of lust, for and it's almost addicting

because it's like especially in your normal life people don't they do see you that way they don't express it right they don't give you that attention what do you think the whole lure of Instagram and selfies and social media why do you think everyone's addicted it's the fucking likes it's people paying attention to you

it's exactly what you're talking about it's addicting to everybody you know people just like paying attention to you everyone gets fucking addicted to that oh my God no and it's just like and like I said it could it could be a blessing in a curse. Yeah. How much did you make? Did you make a lot of money selling your panties?

Oh, fuck yeah. I mean, not too much because I was still working as a barista, but like I was making like $300 a month and that was before like inflation. Yeah, and you're young. When you're young, that's a lot of money. I mean, I get it. Yeah, that's good. Extra money for nothing for putting something in an envelope and going to the post office. Not bad.

Right. And then like, and that was just my panties. I was actually doing videos. Like I had a guy who, like I said, I had one guy that, um, love crushing. And so he wanted me to get dirty, stinky gym shoes and then just stomp on candy. That's all he wanted me to do is stop on candy, make it nice and sensual, make sure it's nice, the shoe was nice and muddy. And you know what I mean? It was just so, to me, it was just so, like you said, interesting that these, like, these requests. So specific. And a lot of them didn't want me, want them to touch me or want them to touch myself. It's just more of the act. And also that's what I respected too. But then life happens. And our relationship got more serious because after us being together for six years, we ended up having our first child. So then we're just like, okay, maybe we need to slow it down a little bit. We need to figure out, instead of being, you know, Vanessa and husband, we need to.

to be mom and dad now. Yeah. So then we slowed it down. And then, you know, I got real insecure because the baby weight, I ended up having two children. So my body was just trying to catch up. And I was not feeling the sexiest when I was before. And then I don't know.

So then that's when tender and all those like date websites started popping up. Right. And it was so, because I want my cousins, my friends, they're all talking about, swipe less, swipe right. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? And so, you know, I go into looking at it and I'm like, wow, that is some interesting ass shit. Like you just pick people.

Like, but that's when I started talking to my husband. And I was like, hey, I do have this by side that I've never really got to explore with you. You know, are you willing to explore that with me? And he's just like, fuck yeah. And so I was like, all right. So I was like, are you willing to make a page on Tinder and seeing what we can find? And he was like, yeah, let's do it. So we put like a little page out.

And so like a week goes by and I mean, our shit got lit up. Right. And so, but we got the free trial thing. So I didn't get to see exactly all these people who are on our page, right? So because I was still kind of like shame, scared, you know, all these like insecurities. And then my insecurities even gotten heightened when one of my cousins came up and was like, hey, yeah, I have a. page on Tinder and I've been seeing people on there and I'm just like oh fuck basically she's saying that she saw my page without saying she saw my page

yeah and I'm just like it just horrified me and so I just immediately deleted it I was like I don't even want to know who's on there I don't want to see the messages now and a few weeks go by and me and my husband end up going to the bar and are and we end up meeting this couple. This couple comes right up to us, right? And I'm just, and it's completely oblivious. And I'm just like, you know, they're like really intense. Like it's like the sexual, I don't know, they gave off the sexual vibe already.

And I'm just like, they were a really hot couple. And, you know, we kind of like started hanging out, talking, became vanilla friends. And then the husband ended up getting deployed. So me and the girl, my friend, ended up getting closer because she, She was just sad and, yeah, alone and just needed some attention, I guess. So, you know, one night we ended up going out to the bar and we ended up doing karaoke together. That was that kind of our thing. And it just got really, I don't know, I don't know what the fuck happened.

It was just one of those things like sexual tension. I didn't even know she was bisexual, but I think we just started like, I think touching each other on the bar, you know, kind of giving each other those looks. And then going to the house and we didn't make out, but we definitely like we're just touching. watching each other and it's just like that sensual just filling up on each other just it felt so good and yeah we didn't like I said we didn't do anything but we just kind of you know like did stuff like I said when it comes to like rubbing each other's breasts just filling up on each other just why didn't you go any further fear I've never been with anybody but my husband and so it's just one of those situations where it was just so freeing but scary at the same So we didn't do anything until, I think, a few months later. And it was just like every time we hung out, we just went a little bit farther, a little bit farther. And after a while, that's one night, we just got really drunk and we ended up going all the way. Like she ended up saying something about like, I need to use the bathroom.

I need to take a shower. And I'm just like, bitch, why are you going to take a shower for it? It was like, I was completely oblivious because she also kept sending mixed messages. Because like, we'll do stuff. And then she'd be like, we shouldn't have done that. And I'm like, oh, okay, I'm sorry. But then she'll get drunk, like, okay, do it again. So there was like this tease that we're doing, this sexy dance.

And yeah, we end up fucking. And she was in the bathroom, getting undressed. And yeah, we ended up going to the bed. And then she ended up dressing me. I ended up going down on her, which I'm like, damn, I love eating pussy. That was your first time, right? Right. I mean, since as a teenager, I ate pussy a little bit as a teenager, but like, not as an adult. Okay.

And so it was really like, yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm, yeah, this is, this is it. Yeah, I definitely love to eat pussy. I love sucking dick. So I am definitely bisexual in the extreme way, you know. And we had a great night. Like I said, that was my first time scissoring somebody. Uh-huh. How was that? Oh, my God, dude. Oh, my goodness. Like, that. was just so hot. Like I almost came like instantly. I had to like hold back because I was just like, oh no, don't look like a pussy. But yeah, she she rocked my socks off. It was it opened up this complete door of like I want more. I want more. And so when my last confession, I said that it happened. My time period was a little off. So this happened before COVID. So after that last experience,

like we full on like fucked each other. That's what it felt like. Like, she fucked me. Like, she got on top of me and fucked the shit out of me. With a strap on? No, with her pussy. Like, just, she just rubbed, like, because I think we're just so wet. We were just so turned on that, like, it was, we didn't need a fucking strap on. Like, that our fucking put, like, it was just pussy matched with pussy.

The clip was like right there. I don't know. It was just, it felt so fucking good. Our juices together. it was just fucking sexy and like I said I wanted more you know and then COVID happened

like literally a week later we got the fucking shutdown dude and I'm just like are you fucking I was so upset so upset because now I'm paranoid no I can't go over there now they had everybody paranoid God forbid and everyone like stayed home

didn't see people I remember it's crazy remember that I was I thought it was the end of the world I really did I said, this is it. We're here. Still fucking walking dead. People were washing their groceries before they brought them in.

I mean, so you couldn't see her, right? But do you start swinging during COVID or when it lifts? When it lifts. Definitely when it lift. Yeah. Like we were just, because like I said, after that, it just, I wanted more. And I couldn't stop thinking about it. And like, I went straight to my husband that night and told her what happened.

Because I felt so guilty. guilty. And he, because even though she's a woman, even though, you know, he gave me the green light, I didn't tell him up front that we were even doing this stuff. Like, he thought we were just going on karaoke. You know what I mean? He didn't know that we were actually filling up on each other. Yeah, could be considered cheating. Right. And especially, you know, but he was hard as a fucking rock and he fucked so good. He was into it. Oh, dude. He was, oh my gosh. Yeah, he was hell. into it. Okay. And you don't mind me saying, because like terminology, you don't mind me saying dude, right? No, not at all.

Okay, okay. Okay. Because I just, that's my love language. Yeah, that's cool. I like dude. I like, like, I used dude all the time, I think. Okay, good. Because I think you're sexy as fuck and I'm like, no, I know you're not a dude. No, no, yeah. Oh, yeah, I don't look at it that way at all. Don't worry. And I am kind of like a dude. So it's cool. You know what I'm saying. Like, yeah, we talk like guys sometimes. Is that when you guys start like discussing the lifestyle. Yeah. So we started doing our homework.

So we're like, okay, how do you even get this started? Because we're out of touch with all the stuff. We're just like, okay, we need to really figure out how to do it the right way. Yeah. And it's like, you know, because we don't even know our boundaries. So it's like, okay, what do we like? What we don't like? I've never seen them with anybody before.

And, you know, of course, when you're first with each other, you have those jealousies with other people and, you know, normal vanilla shit, you know? And so I'm like, okay, well, I mean, am I going to get jealous? Like, well, if I see him with somebody else, will I react? Because I'm such a mama bear that I don't know how I'm going to react. So it's valid. That's valid. I think a lot of people feel that way.

And I'm just like, okay, so, you know, we're going a little slow and we're going through the podcast and we ran into your podcast. And that's when we kind of like, it really solid what we felt. out already. And it gave us more of an open like, oh, okay. Yeah, you can. There's levels. You don't have to just go full on. And so we started like, okay, well, once we, once COVID lifted, we're just like, okay, you want to start making a page on SLS. And he's like, yeah, let's do it. So we started doing it in 2020, the beginning of 24. So all these years, we're finally like, all right, we're here. We're, we're going to do it, you know. And our first.

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Like, it was just so clicky. Like, you get it right tell up front, like, everybody knew each other. So it was kind of a little disappointing at first. We were like, oh, shit. Like, people know each other here. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, so we're kind of like a fish outside of the water. And we're just like, okay, we're just going to, you know, float by and just figure it out.

And then we had this couple kind of like, laser us. They're like, ooh, fresh meat, you know? So they kind of come up to us and they're a really sweet, really sweet couple. And they were making us feel very welcomed and showing us around, you know, showing us to other couples. And then we met a unicorn. And the unicorn was just like, yeah, you know, we have a thing called a saddle. And I was like, what's a saddle? A saddle is like, you know what those cowboy, you know, you get on to the horse? Yeah, so it's kind of like that, but it's a vibrator. Oh, okay, kind of like a Sibbian, but a SIPB.

They call it a SIPH. Oh, there you go. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And so I was like, okay, so she showed it to me. And that shit was fucking sexy as fuck. So then we started kind of playing with the unicorn a little bit, you know, and then this is an open room.

People are walking in, walking out. And I'm like, oh my God, we're actually fucking doing this. So I'm touching her breast and she's riding the saddle a little bit. So, yeah, we end up having a full on experience with the unicorn, me and my husband. And we end up having a couple of couples coming in. And then at one point, we get off the saddle. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to get on the fucking saddle. So I jump on the saddle.

And then I just have a crowd of people at one point surrounding me, just watching me on this saddle. and a girl was actually controlling the saddle. And so I was just like, okay, it didn't feel so good. It felt like, and I don't know if it was people watching me. I don't know if it's because this is my first time doing this, but I just had this natural high that was just so, like, freeing and just so, like, I just did not give a shit at that point. And like I said, I'm not no size zero, you know what I mean?

Like, for me to be full on naked and for, front of these people for the first time, it just gave me this liberation. Yeah, I can imagine. Like, yes. And confidence, because people are like getting off on you. They're into it. They like you. They like what they see. Exactly. Exactly. And my husband, on top of that, he was turned on. So I'm like, hell yeah. You know what I mean? Like he's on board. Everybody's on board. And they were very polite, too. So they weren't just grabbing on me and being all, they were asking permission. Hey, is it okay if I touch you? hey, is it okay? And asking my husband,

hey, is it okay if I could touch her? And he was completely okay with it. And it was just such an amazing experience. We didn't get on the bed. And then we ended up, he ended up playing with the unicorn. I ended up playing with a couple. And we were just like looking at each other like,

oh my God, this is actually fucking happening. And it was almost like a movie. Like, you know, at the end of the night where we walk out and we're just covered in like pussy fucking, like, pussy's pussy. sweat fucking we smell like everybody and we're just walking to our car and we're just like we did the damn thing like how do you feel like do you feel okay are you okay because we're on this high we're excited and then we're like oh shit reality sits in like are you okay like did everything work out

the way you want like you know what I mean yeah was everything that you imagine yeah and he was like yeah and more and you too and me fucking too oh my god like I was like, yeah, this is it. Yeah. This is our lifestyle. And I remember you talking about saying that people hate the word swingers. I do too. I don't like swingers.

I like the word lifestyle to me. Yeah. Yeah. Like to me, it's more like there's more levels. I feel like swing is just fucking. That's what it sounds like to me. Like lifestyle for me is like there's like dating or there's polyamorous and there's There's like with us where we don't see ourselves as monogamy, but we don't see each other as like an open relationship.

We're not the couple that do things separately. We've noticed that there are couples that like to date separately. But to us, it's like, what is the point in that? Like, we enjoy each other already. And we just want other couples to enjoy us together as well. Not everybody goes there. Some people never go there. Some people go there after a long time.

Some people go there and then go right the fuck back. You know, some people go there and love it. They become polyamorous and they could roll. But I do think that that's a big jump. And whenever I hear a couple say that they did do that, I always ask a lot of questions because I think that that's when, unless you have a really fucking solid relationship, you can have some problems. I don't know.

Like I would be a little scared to take that step, you know, but some people, but trust me, people do it and they do it flawlessly and it works. But I do think it's a whole different ballgame. Right. No, I would not suggest people who have been together for like five years to do it. You know what I mean? Even five years is a long time. But I don't think it's enough to know somebody in a deep level like that.

You know, but then there are, like you said, there are couples that can do that. And every, listen, I think what's most important is that neither one of you wants to go play solo, right? Right. Yeah. So that works. I mean, so everything went down, right? Like full swap shit. Like you fucked a guy.

He fucked a girl. You fucked a girl. He, like, I mean, is that what happened? Like, what exactly went down? So he was with the unicorn. He went down on the unicorn and then she I think she did fuck him that night either was that night or the next night But you were okay with that right? Oh yeah I was kind of distracted though like when he was fucking her I wasn't Necessary watching you know I was just more like holy shit my hand my my my legs are on this guy's shoulders

And he's fucking the shit out of me. I don't even know his name. Oh my god Oh my god that's so funny that's what was happening your first thing. time while your guy was, oh my God, so hilarious. So, and then on top of that, I seen the guy, I seen this guy next to me, and I can see him just looking at my toes. And I'm just like, oh, you're a toe guy. So funny. I end up fucking that guy next, uh, later on.

Same night. Next, uh, like two weeks later. So like the both of you, though, how did you guys feel about seeing each other with somebody else? I mean, you did say you didn't know how you'd feel about seeing him. with another girl. And what did he say about seeing you with another guy? He said it was different.

He said, honestly, it was different because he did watch me. He was just like, I'm not used to this. But he said it didn't make him mad. You know what I mean? It was just different. And that's what he would say. And I said, okay, but is it something that you would want to see again? And he goes, yeah, yeah, definitely.

And then with me, I didn't really get to see everything. Like, I saw him go down on her. but I didn't see my husband actually do the act. And so to me in my back of my head, I'm like, am I still okay with that? If I do see him in the act with another woman, will that affect me a little bit? And the next time we played, it was with a couple.

And no, I actually, pleasantly, surprisingly, did not affect me at all. And it was almost like, it was really fun. Like, we ended up, first we didn't even think we're going to do anything with them. So me and my husband, we kind of made it where our thing is we have dinner with couples the first time. And then that's kind of where we see like if there's an attraction, if there's an attraction.

And then after the dinner that we have with them, we'll send them a message on telegram saying, this is how we feel. We liked you. Did you want to go a step further? And usually after the second, the second date is usually when we're, we actually fucked them. And so that's what happened with our first couple. We ended up having dinner with them.

It turned out really well. Like I said, we remembered them at the last event too. So, you know, we had stuff to talk about. And then the second time or the third, the next date, that's when we did the Uno. And that's when we're kind of like, because we've kind of set it up. We're like, okay, so the next meet, we're going to fuck, right? But then when we got there, it didn't seem like they wanted to. we're just like right and we're like okay I don't know what's going on I think there was a little jealousy with the wife a little bit I think she didn't feel confident or didn't feel secured and and I'm a type of person like I always want all parties especially the woman to feel comfortable men are always horn dogs they're always going to be comfortable but I want to make sure the woman feels like I'm not trying to take the spotlight like I'm not trying to be here trying to perform outperforming

you. Like, I want you to love my body just like I love yours. So that's where my tactic kind of goes. So my husband is really like kind of the guy that kind of sits back. And I'm the more person that kind of steps forward. And then especially when, like I said, especially if the woman is feeling very, not 100 percent, I go in and make her feel she's the number one. Like I said, I know how to step back and give somebody to spotlight, especially if I'm going to get what I want. You know what I mean? Like, I want, I want you to feel sexy with me. I don't want to out sexy you. So, you know, we were just, you know, I was flirting with her. So the Uno started turning into, okay, you know, no, no, we ended up doing truth or dare. That's right. So we ended up doing like these little papers. We had these papers in this

a little hat thing. And when it was like a, no, that's what that's right. So we did truth and then there. And then we would pick out a piece of paper. and that's what we would read it out loud, and then that's what we would do. And so a lot of it, of course, was sexual. And so we started, a lot of it was with her, you know, like slapping her ass, touching her breast, kissing her neck, just getting these little sexual. And you could tell she was getting turned on. And that's when I kind of like, was like, okay, so are we going to fuck or what, you know?

And they're like, yeah, we're going to fuck. So we ended up going into the room and it was like almost surreal. Like we're being led into the room. I'm like, oh, my God, this is it. This is like my real sex. This is like my true cap confession. It's like my bunny ranch. Like this is my time to shine kind of situation.

So we go into the bedroom and my husband is with hit the wife. And then I'm with the husband. And we just started taking each other's clothes off. And then me and her start playing with each other. And then my husband started playing with her. And then the husband started playing with me. And yeah, we just, and then we both, we all just fucked on the bed. And it was great at one point.

My husband stopped and I ended up eating her out and the guy behind me was fucking me and it was just fan fucking tastic. It was great. And I was just so surprised how cool I was with it. Even though I do have like this like, yeah, I think I'm going to be good. There's always that little insecurity like, okay, but what if? Right. And but there was none, none at all. Me and my husband really were just like, yeah, I think this is our lifestyle.

I don't know, it's just really, we're really surprised how easy transition it was for us to go from vanilla to not being vanilla. Very easy. And I think like, very easy. And I think it's because of the years we've been together, though. Like, we didn't do it until we were together for what, 15 years. Right. So, you know, that with that level, you know, of security, I know he's not going nowhere and he knows I'm not going nowhere. You know, and it's just like we're here because we've met.

remember we skipped the dating scene a little bit. We got together really early. So we missed the fun going on dates, getting dressed, you know, going out for karaoke and fucking random people. So this is so much fun to us. It's like playing catch up. So, but yeah, we've been doing this since January and we've been having a really great time with it. And we were supposed to be going to like some Halloween events, but you know, we're going to kind of do, we're going to do something in January instead. We just want to explore around and do more and just see what other couples are out there. And like I said, we miss that dating aspect. So we're kind of like just dating other couples, but not dating if that makes sense. Like we're going out to dinner with them. We're, you know,

going out in the town and then we'll fuck them. And then because there are couples that are like, okay, well, we don't like to fully swap in the same room. And that's kind of where we're at right now. like, do we want to do that? Do we want to do the separation thing? But I love watching him with women. Like, I love, and I love eating pussy. Like, I'm really fucking great at it. And I love, you know, and I haven't scissors yet. So I want to scissor again. That shit's fucking fun. And then also, we, we had one couple we were going to use a strap on with. And I haven't done that either. And so there's a lot of things I really want to Do we, me and my husband even went to the store and got the strap on. Like, it was just really fun.

I'm like, hey, what size dick do you think I should have? We get a kick out of it too. It's just like, wow, we're really going shopping for my dick. What is your dick? What kind of dick are you going to get? Have you got one yet? Hell yeah. It's like this, it's like probably like seven inches.

I didn't want too big of a dick. You know, I want like a normal size dick. And it actually feels like a dick too. Like it doesn't have that weird texture. You know what I mean? Like with vibrators. Uh-huh. Like, it really feels like the real thing.

And who do you want to, like, you want to fuck a girl with it, correct? I mean, I would have mind fucking a guy, too. I mean, if they're into that. Well, what about your husband? How does he feel about that? Right. Okay. So I'm glad that you asked.

I've been trying to. I've been trying. I was like, hey, you know, because he does, like, you know, anal play, but, like, only with the butt plug. Like he, we haven't done the whole fucking him in the back. But he even said, he's like, no, I'm not really into that. But at the same time, he is kind of curious. He says, if it's going to happen, it's going to be with you.

So we're still kind of talking about, I'm trying to talk him up with it. I'm like, you know, I'll go soft. I'll be gentle. And what does he say? And he's just like, okay, we'll talk about. We'll see. We'll see. We haven't really planned like the night.

But yeah, I think it's coming though, for sure. And but you want to peg a guy, you would, but have you ever done a strap on with a girl? Not yet. Not yet. That's one of my big fantasies right now is I really want to fuck a girl. I want to see how I am, like on the other side. I've always laid on my back, but I've never actually, me, like, penetrated somebody like that. And I don't know.

I think it's so sexy to me, especially with like a woman. I don't know. I just think it's sexy and I just really want to try it and just see like, you know what I mean? How hard is it? Is it really hard? I don't know. I don't know. People do say it is.

only because you can't feel the appendage. That's what people say. So it takes a little getting used to. Yeah. Are you bisexual? I've been with women, but I've never used a strap on, a strap on. I don't know if I label myself. Like, I haven't been with a woman in a long time.

But when I, like, I've, you know, I never used a strap on. But I mean, I would try it. I just, I've heard women say that it is very difficult, whether they're pegging their husbands or I've never pegged somebody either. I've never used one, but they say that it's a little difficult. You have to get used to it, but once you do, it's cool. You know, I mean, you might take to it seamlessly. Who knows?

Right. I don't know. My sexual appetite, yeah, it kind of surprises me. You're going to be fine, because you want it. Like, you're into it. Like, you want that. I mean, a lot of women say, like, they feel very powerful. That's what it is.

I think it's a dominant thing a little bit. I think, because, you know, I'm kind of getting into the BDSM thing a little bit, but I just don't know where the house start. I don't know. My husband is not the BDSM type. So that's what also is awesome about this lifestyle. I get to figure out what my sexual appetite is, you know, like, especially with, like I said, BDSM, using a strap on. It's just, it's so exciting. Yeah, that's what people say a lot of people, like, you know, what you really find out if you do allow yourself to play with other people. Like maybe you could, maybe, you know,

one person can't satisfy all your needs and that's okay. Like, why not get whatever needs they can't satisfy from somebody else if you're doing it together, right? Probably after a while, we might be comfortable with maybe being in a different room. But, I mean, when it comes to, like, going out on dates by themselves, that to me just doesn't feel, like, in my situation doesn't feel right. like I said because why would I want to I want to enjoy that together I want something we can talk about afterwards like hey did you see that hey did you did you witness that hey did you feel that vibe and that's what was asking with him too it's like what does this mean like is this but we're just kind of like why does it have to have a title we're just going you guys are doing yeah I don't think it has to mean anything I don't think it means anything more than that than you've just found your thing has it changed your relationship like do you feel a difference oh by far in a good way though. Yeah, of course, right.

You know, but also, I'm also going to be really honest with you, you know, there are little weird things that, because I know when I, when people talked on your podcast, they would, they've talked about not being jealous, but being a little jealous, right? Of course. And just to dodge any of those type of feelings, I haven't experienced it yet, but I know it will happen. And so I made myself an appointment for us to see a therapist. Uh-huh.

Just so I can kind of talk to somebody about it too, you know, like, hey, just someone I can talk, because I can't talk to my mom. I can't talk to my family about this. And there's just some things I just kind of want to unwrap. The fact that you're going to have help because you're going to have a therapist on hand that's that's fucking great. So all you're doing is like, you know, setting yourself up for success, which I think is super smart. Exactly. And, you know, like you said, it doesn't hurt. And honestly, it has helped me a lot.

I could imagine. And who doesn't love a good, you know, it's hard to, have you found someone already? Yeah, oh, as a therapist, yes. Okay, great. And you're open with that therapist. They know you have an open relationship and all that kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. Her expression was like, oh, okay, that's where we're going.

I feel like excited. I'm like, oh, now finally an interesting client. I don't know. Definitely not boring. Yeah, she was probably like, oh, my God. But I think that that's awesome. I think that that's super smart. And I think that that will only help you guys navigate because you're,

you're right. Like it will come up at some point. And that doesn't mean that what you're doing is wrong. That just means that you're a human being. And sometimes you get emotional, right? Like I say, sometimes it's like just the way the wind blows. You could just be having a bad day. Who knows?

And it doesn't matter. But what matters is that you have stuff in place to be able to talk it out and work through it without it sort of blowing shit up, which is not going to happen with you guys because you guys just sound like thick as these. You're super smart in the way that you've handled everything, especially that you just went and got a therapist. It wasn't even like things were going.

It sounds like things are going great with you guys. Oh, definitely. You just got the therapist to make sure it goes great, which I think really just says something about who you are. And I think that that is setting yourself up for success in the future as opposed to, you know, you calling me a year from now that shit blew up. Right. Fuck, fuck, we're divorced.

I'm just kidding. It's not going to happen. You know, it's not going to happen. But maybe I'll be playing solo. Maybe that will be the thing. But do you want to send me in picks for my Patreon? If you listen to my show, you know people send me in picks for my Patreon. Are you down for that?

Yeah, yeah, definitely. No faces, but definitely sexy cards. No faces. No. And I always say, like, no dicks in the pick. No pussy shots. Like, I don't do X-rated picks for me set you, but you, I do R-rated. Like people, women always send me like sexy picks of them in lingerie or so that's totally

fine. And then I'll give you free access to my discord. that's where all the X-rated stuff comes into play. Because I will tell you not to send me dirty picks, right? But you're still going to. That's what happens. People do it all the time. I tell them and then they send me like all this stuff.

And that's why I started my discurk. I'm like, where am I going to put all this stuff? So that's where that goes. But I'll give you free access to it. And then when your episode errors, you could go in there. Make sure you use the name Vanessa. I'll give you guest roll access. You could post anything you want if you want to go into it over there.

I mean, that's your choice. I'm not telling you you have to. but if you want to, you can and I'll give you free access to that as well. There'll be a link in the email you get from me thanking you for calling in. Just sign up there and sign up as Vanessa, okay? And this will probably air like not this Monday,

but next Monday. For sure. Yeah, please tell me what to do. Okay. I just told you what to do. Did you fucking hear it? Yeah, hell fucking yeah. I'm doing it right now. All right, awesome.

You're the best. Thank you so much for calling in. This was a fun conversation. No, I had a good time. Yeah, let me know what you think after you listen to it. Definitely go on Discord. And thanks so much for calling and sharing your story. Hey, no problem, Kathy Kay. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Vanessa. Bye. All right, bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book. The book is called Shickland anonymous confessions, secret sex lives of total strangers. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show.

Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gangbang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person. I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show. You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third person.

There's an ebook available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the ebook. It's available. If you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a comment. A complementary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks, okay? It's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with each other. That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures and there's tons of channels and we have contests over

there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buys my book at any time access to my Discord. It is private. It's the only way you could get in is through me giving you the link. And that's why I think my Discord is so great because I have vetted people. people, it's not like it's just open to the public. So everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show and people that listen to my show are fucking great. So my discord is fucking great. My book is great. You're going to love it. If you buy it, all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it and I will give you free access to my discord. Send it to Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com. You could find my book in the link in the

description. Okay. Or just Google it. Strictly anonymous confessions, secret sex lives of total strangers. You can find it anywhere. Uh, you buy books. Send me the picture and I'll give you access. to my Discord email, strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Anyway, thanks so much for listening. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook,

but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica

book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erot. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it. I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other.

And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.

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