Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1372 -How to Turn a Hotwifing Fantasy Into Reality w/ Zach
Episode Date: February 18, 2026Zach wants his wife’s hotwifing fantasy to become a reality and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including when he started thinking his wife was into the thought of... being with other guys, how and when he realized he was into her thinking about other guys and realized he was into cuckolding and hotwifing, the toys he bought to introduce hotwifing to her in the bedroom, the app he bought that had her answering questions about her fantasies and the ones they matched on, how and when he told her he was into the fantasy of hotwifing and how he can tell she’s totally into it, why he’s afraid to tell her he wants to do it in “real life,” the different ways he can bring it up, how just role playing the hotwife scenario with his wife has made him less interested in porn plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns https://VB.HEALTH,com — To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST use code: STRICTLY https://beducate.me/pd2605-anonymous Get your personalized road map to pleasure https://butterwellness.com Get the Butter massager and get 20% off your whole order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ X https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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description and click on the link. Okay, so today I have on Zach. Zach has a great story and I let him come
on on Wednesday episodes. I like to do like bigger topic subjects and stuff like how-toes or
girl talk or guy talk episodes. This is me talking to a guy who is dying to get.
his wife into hotwifing. He's like a lot of you guys out there. He has not been able to pull the trigger,
but he's not that far from it, okay? And he tells us the whole story, how it began. What sort of spurred
the whole hot wiping thing for him? I mean, he wasn't a guy that always knew he was into this.
He was watching porn with his wife one day, and he noticed her reaction to something, and it made him
start thinking, and then he started looking into it, and then they started working hot wiping stuff.
and then he realized he was into it and he could tell his wife was into it.
And then they started role-playing it.
And then he started buying toys and they role-played and she loves it.
And he loves it.
And now he wants to take it to real life.
And he just doesn't know how to get there.
Now, I do at the end say, hey, you know, why not just bring it up and ask her if she would be down?
You don't have to tell her you want to do it.
Just ask her like what she thinks about it.
And he said he was going to do it within three weeks time.
But he never did.
So I'm just airing his episode.
anyway because I think his episode stands alone and is great without the feedback of what his wife
said. He hasn't done it yet. I do believe in these kinds of situations. You got to play the long game. And
the long game for everybody is different. You know, I tried to push him into doing it. But he didn't
take the bait. But that's okay. Like I said, everyone has their own timeline. And the long game is never
going to hurt. But I hope he eventually does just go there. I do believe I gave him so much good advice on how to
take the hot wiping fantasy from, you know, role playing in the bedroom to finding out if
she'd ever do it in real life. We talk all about all of this stuff. I think it's super interesting
to any newbies out there or guys who wants to get into this or the guys who have this as their
fantasy. Zach has done well up until now. And then I give him good advice on how to take it further.
So that's what we discuss here. Like I said, at the end, I do say to him in the episode you hear me say,
like go talk to her and give him a timeline, but he doesn't do it. But it's still, like I said,
a great episode. So I'm going to get right tuned to be right back on with Zach. Hi, Zach. Welcome to the
Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing great. How are you? Good. So listen,
Zach, I think that you have a very relatable story. You are a guy that's into hotwifing and you have a girl
and you guys talk about it. You fantasize about it, but you're kind of stuck in a place where you haven't
had any experiences yet, right? And you want to. And I think that you're like a lot of other guys. And
that's why I was like, oh, come on the show. I'm doing Sunday episodes now. Maybe we'll make this
a bonus episode. Maybe we don't get a whole hour because there's not any hot wafing experiences.
But I think where you're at and your story is very relatable. And maybe I could give you some
advice and or maybe people will write in and give you advice. So why don't you give me the skinny
now of like where, how long you and your wife have been married first? And how old you guys are
around. Yeah, we're mid-40s. We've been together for about 10 years. We've been married for about
seven of those. And a great relationship. We've got kids. We've got, you know, very exciting in the
bedroom. So we're, you know, yeah, this sort of, I stumbled across this on my own. Yeah,
interesting. Tell me how. How did you realize? Yeah. Interesting story. So I had no idea what
hot wifing mint, cuckold mint at all.
My wife and I were watching porn together about a year ago, and there was a scene.
She had picked out what we were watching, and there was a scene where there was a really hot
couple, and they sort of zoom in on the guy, and he's got like this big cock, and it's like,
zoomed in, and we had only been having sex for, like, a few minutes.
And she just, like, came hard immediately, like, moaned.
and just totally caught me off guard.
And so I thought, wow, that was really exciting.
I got, you know, just what kind of the feelings that came over me were sort of a mixture
of feelings.
Like, what was it a mixture of?
What kind of feelings besides, like, being turned on?
Was there any kind of, like, uncomfortableness at, like, how turned on she was?
I was kind of like, oh, okay, interesting.
This is really interesting, like, because that was, like, the, maybe the, more of the
strongest orgasms I've ever experienced.
her having or right right you know so i was like okay and i obviously i think like any guy part of me
is like overwhelmingly it was more like wow that was really good for her and that really turned me on
that that was really good for her and there was probably a you know tiny amount of like wow i don't know
that guy is really big is there you know is there some insecurity on my part or is there i mean i'm
ever going to be able to, you know, offer that to her type of thing. Not much. It really,
but there was a tinge of that, right? That's okay. I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting.
Yeah. And so, and so then I, I was trying to just kind of figure out. It was, you know, again,
I had no idea what any of this, you know, life entailed. And I'm still learning today. So it's
interesting timing. But so anyway, we go, time goes on. We're going to watch point. We're going to
watch porn together again.
And this time I'm picking
out what we're going to watch. And I'm like, I want to
find something very similar to
what we watched last time.
And so I kind of find
one, we go to play it.
And another
attractive couple, attractive guy.
I can see he's
very big. And she
looked away from the TV and looked
down. And I realized it's because if she watched it,
she's going to like come immediately again.
Oh my God.
It's getting her horny that fast.
Minutes.
And so I literally kind of like gently grabbed her by the hair and pulled her up from like where she was kind of tucked down into the pillow.
As soon as she saw it just like massive orgasm again.
And I was like, okay, that that wasn't a fluke last time.
Like there's this is interesting.
And I was even like 10 times more because then I had some time to think about like what's, what.
is going on, you know, how this is so good for her. I didn't know what compersion meant at the time.
I've done some homework. Now in retrospect, I realize that was what was exciting me so much.
Yeah. But so then I'm like, okay, there's something really, you know, I think, like awesome going on here between the two of us and experiencing this together.
So I literally go to like Pornhub and I type in, I don't know, something like,
wife loves big cock or something like that.
You're probably not the first one.
And I'm like, well, having listened to some of your podcasts,
I realize that this is pretty, I mean, there's a lot of, I think, guys out there that are,
you know, would be excited or are.
Yeah.
But maybe a little bit like me where like I don't even, there's so much negativity over the word.
We'll talk about it today, I'm sure.
the word cuck hole, the word hot wife.
Like it's very like demeaning, I think, to the guy, just kind of the general way that
people think and talk about it.
Exactly.
And so I didn't know much about it except that it was something that was kind of like, not only
taboo, but just like, you know, really kind of belittles the guy, I guess, in some, in some
instances.
So I, but so I searched this and immediately it like fall into this world of like, okay,
well, here are all these, you know, porn's that say cuckold.
And so I'm like obviously clicking around.
Right now you have words to put together with it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And so then found one, watched one.
And I was like, holy cow, like my heart was like beating out of my chest, like imagining like that situation of my wife and I were in it.
So then I started actually researching and came across a podcast and there was a guy who had become a
bowl, but started out as on the other side.
So started out as a cuck.
And he was talking about, you know, imagine watching a live porn like you're there,
but it's your wife.
And I was just like, oh, God, that's it.
He's explaining exactly, you know, all the things are so exciting to me.
And so then I'm doing, you know, a little bit more homework.
And I'm like, hmm, you know, we'll talk more about like.
some of the hesitations.
I'm sure all guys would have them.
I'm like, how do you even start to,
how would you even think about possibly converting this into reality?
Because at this point, my wife and I had never even,
it was really just those couple of porn, you know,
instances.
And so then I'm like, okay, I think I had listened to another podcast.
And there was,
oh, there was a female that was talking from the wife's perspective.
And she's like, you know, how you go about this?
It means everything for your wife because she's,
never thought about any of this before. It's exciting for her, but at the same time,
there's, if you think guys have a lot of hesitation about it, I think girls probably have
twice as many, you know, concerns and hesitations. So somehow I picked up on this cue to go
buy like a larger dildo and a cock sleeve and start to see if, you know, what if you
integrate that into sexy time? So we, I did that and that then started to like progress into,
okay this number one it went over great both of them and so then I started to slip in like hey I want to
watch you you know with one of these toys and I'm going to sit back and then she got to watch me like just
watching her totally excited about watching her and then she's like oh he likes you know to to
watch this and so she she played into it and then you know I tried
level a lot for work. So then I'm like on, you know, level 10 with excitement about all this.
And I had been doing obviously more like homework and research and she's, you know,
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Like just
watching her. Totally excited
about watching her.
And then she's like, oh, he likes
you know, to watch this.
And so she played into it.
And then, you know, I travel a lot for work.
So then, like, I'm like on, you know, level 10 with excitement about all this.
And I had been doing obviously more like homework and research.
And she's, you know, because I didn't want to just obviously, you know,
throw out some left field concept.
And so we're traveling and we're texting.
And I'm asking our questions like, you know, what's your, what would be one of your deepest fantasies
that you've never told me before.
And she's a little shy.
So she played into it a little bit,
but just over and over kept saying,
like,
nothing is off the table as long as we're doing it together,
except she said,
you know,
a few times,
me with another woman is not something that she'd be okay with,
which doesn't really,
you know,
that's not a big thing for me anyway.
So that,
but she said,
you know,
nothing,
everything else,
there's nothing else that is off the table.
And she said,
wow.
Like,
have I ever said no?
do anything. And I'm just like right there on the teetering point of like we're kind of having this sexy
text session. So I, you know, I was like, there's a lot on the line here. I don't, I don't want to
just throw it out of her text if it's something I'm reading wrong into like what she's saying.
Yeah, yeah. And so then I had this idea that there's this app that you can get. And it's like a
questionnaire. And so each couple takes it separately. And then if you said, if you both said yes to it. Yeah,
you match, you see it, right? What's that name of that app? Do you remember? Because I've heard of that
before. Is it called paired or something like that? No. Let me, you know, I can't think of it off.
It's okay. It's okay. Keep going. Just if you see. I'll let you know. Yeah. You could find it
pretty easily if you, if you do a little bit of search. It's such a great idea, right? I really think it's
such a great thing to offer to couples because like you're going to tell me that you used it to
bring this up right? I mean, this is how you guys started talking about it. Yeah. And so what's nice
about it is that like you could say yes to something that could be like way off for the other
person, but they don't, it's actually pretty hard to even figure out behind the scenes like what they
said because there's a maybe also. Yeah. And so maybe what I would think is more like if they're into it,
I'll do it, but I'm not really into it.
But a yes is like, I'm into it.
And if they're into it, then that would be great.
So Spicer, that's what it's called.
Oh, Spicer.
Okay, good to know.
Thanks for letting me know.
Yeah.
So I thought maybe this would be great to have like, this is a really neutral.
Like, can't really see what each other is answering, but if there's two yeses.
And so part of this like path for me is kind of a whirlwind of like things that I think I'm reading.
right and that are exciting and then things that I'm like, wow, okay, I'm reading this way wrong
because now I'm getting way different signals. So I, we get on the spice wrap, both answer our
questions. And literally the only thing that she answers yes or maybe two are things that we've
already done in the past. Like nothing, none of the questions that were things that were new.
Yeah.
Were yeses or matches. So I'm like, obviously, you know, you're like, oh, dang it. This is really
just a fantasy, which is okay, you know what I mean, if that were the case. So then I kind of,
things go cold a little bit. I don't really bring it up anymore. I have concerns at that point on,
like, is she sort of just playing along because she could tell that I'm into it during sex?
And then for people who are, you know, bitten by the compersion bug, like that kind of ruins
if it's just for me and it's not you actually getting enjoyment. Yeah, that defeats the whole purpose.
That's not compersion. That's not real compersion. Yeah. So,
So things kind of went cold.
And I'm like, you know, I think I'm just going to bring it back up a little bit more during sex and just kind of see where it goes.
And so started doing that again, started telling her specifically during sucks.
Like, I want to watch you.
Fuck another guy with a big cock.
I want to be there.
I want to watch it.
And she's playing into it.
And she's like, do you want that?
Do you want to watch that?
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Like, I couldn't be any more explicit about it.
And now, like, it's fantasy, sexy talk.
Yeah.
It's not, like, let's have a conversation, even through an app when we're not having sex.
So we're, now I'm back to like, and whenever she's saying that, she is, you know, usually using the big dildo, and she's, like, coming quickly again.
So I'm like, okay, I don't think this, she's just playing along and not, you know, enjoying it herself.
So, and so through this whole process, obviously, your podcast,
has been great because I've learned a lot. Some of the things, whenever you start to think as someone
who's never had any of those type of experiences, like, okay, well, realistically, how do we even
find this person? Of course. Are they the right? Are they going to treat your wife, you know,
appropriately? Are there, you know, any kind of testing issue? Like, we don't even really go out
and party. So, like, how? So then you start to think, like, this, there's a huge gap here from
fantasy to actually what all would have to play out to actually make this a reality.
But your podcast has been super helpful.
Yeah, of course.
Understanding that there are the, and, you know, I've watched a couple of the Mr.
Bull episodes or others and like to hear them talk about how important the relationship
is and how important, you know, all these other things are and all the people who they say no to,
I'm like, wow, okay, well, this is the missing link here.
on like we're not going to go just try to find some guy at a bar and keeping in mind that she's
end a big cock so what if we're going to do mr bull mr bull is your guy he fucked another one of my
listeners they came out and talked about it like i mean they are there are those guys out there
that's really if those are your reservations the safest way to go and that's top of the mountain
by the way anyway because these guys do what every that's why i have them on my show and i think
that so many people should listen to their episodes because they're here to say like
how you need to be
to fuck other
guys' wives properly. Do you know what I'm saying?
And it's not just about fucking them
good. It's about having a good relationship
with a husband. It's about communication. It's about
the women, treating her very well, all of the above. All the stuff
that you're, like, hesitant about or was worried
about with a regular, any guy off the street, you know?
Yeah. And Aika had gotten to the point where I was like, you know, I just,
you know, that it could be, it could turn out so bad
if we went, like, with just, you know,
trying to meet someone that, but I had pretty much like, you know, well, this will probably just
always be a fantasy thing until, again, you know, I started listening to some of your podcasts.
And then to hear that he's also like coaching other guys, because I mean, what a cool, you know,
awesome experience it could be for everyone involved if it's all handled, right? And there's open
communication and all that. So I thought, okay, now we're back to like, maybe this isn't just
a fantasy. Right. Maybe there's not a big jump between fantasy and reality. Like, it can actually
happen. Yeah. Yep. And so that almost brings us to current, like where we are today.
It still keeps getting brought up, you know, frequently during sex. I still have not, like,
found the best way to pull the trigger on like. Reality to fantasy, fantasy to reality.
Yeah. And that was sort of the reason why I reached out to you is, you know, obviously you're not
going to just have someone show up at a hotel room with her blindfolded, although that some of the
you know, maybe some people do. I don't know. My wife would not be okay.
No, that's not cool. That's not cool.
Nope. So, so yeah, there's this weird like, okay, how do we, how do I then focus more on,
you know, the spicter thing didn't go as I had thought it would have. We've never really
specifically talked about it. We do talk about it during sex. And so, and part of it,
too, there's a lot in the line, I think, for both of us. So if I put her in a position where she
would feel embarrassed, even if she was telling the truth that she'd be into it, but if she would
be, you know, think that I'm just, you know, put myself in her shoes and maybe she thinks I'm
just doing it for her and doesn't realize how much it actually turns me on. Then she also could be
a reason why she could say, you know, that's not true. There's a lot of reasons why she could
have her reservations about it. But you're very like deep into it already. I mean, the good news is
like it's obvious that your wife is turned on by the scenario, right?
Like that's the first thing.
A lot of women wouldn't be turned on by even the fantasy of it, right?
But yours really is.
And I think that you've showed that you really are, right?
I mean, let me ask you this.
Does she know that you listen to my podcast or how you've been like looking into this whole
kink, this new kink of yours and hers?
Does she know that you've been doing all this research?
Or does she just think that you bring it up in?
the bedroom with her.
Yeah, she has no, no idea about any of the homework that I've been doing.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, you're obviously a homework type of guy, so she probably wouldn't be surprised
if you told her, right?
Like, I mean, it's not like you've never done homework before.
You must roll that way anyway.
So, like, would it be weird for you to communicate to her like, hey, you know, I found this
podcast or, hey, I found this word for what we're into and this is what it is.
And then I, you know, maybe like blah, blah, blah.
You're going to have to take this step to sort of talk about maybe doing it in real life.
Like, or, you know, listen, I had a couple on.
I remember I know it was one of my favorite episodes because I'm like, oh, this is kind of like good for another couple if they never want to like go out and fuck real other people.
They got a fuck machine.
Okay.
And like they like it was so good for them in their role play, right?
To have that other cock there with the fuck machine.
It's like, you know, it's very hands off at that.
They never went and they this, all they did was like send pictures back and forth to other.
couples to like get off on like other things but they decided not even to open up their
relationship because they were so into that I mean maybe they have by now but I know that the fuck
machine was like a great addition but you know I think you you could throw it out there about
doing it in real life because like I said you're you're you're really close to the finish line you
know what's the worst she's going to say is like no way I would never fuck somebody else like you
don't know maybe she's thinking the same thing you know what I mean at least when she's horny
you know what I'm saying?
She's definitely thinking about it, which is horny.
100% a lot of this is me being chicken.
And also because, not because it should be upset or think less of me at all.
Of course.
But just because like, okay, if we get to the bottom of this and it comes off the table,
man, that's going to be, you know, it's going to change things.
Again, I wouldn't be.
But do you really think that if she knew that you wanted to do this in real life, that she'd be like,
no, and then we can never talk about it again?
She doesn't sound like uptight like that.
Like she just doesn't sound like that type of woman.
You know what I mean?
Like, why would it go off the table if she doesn't want to do it?
You'd still just fantasize about it.
And then you could go get a fuck machine and do other things.
But like, I mean, it's what's going to, what's the word?
I'm just saying like, what's the worst case scenario when you say, hey, like, would you
be interested in doing like, I've been looking into this?
Like I'd never real.
Like, you know, maybe start with like what compurgent means and how you learned about
it because you realize you were so horny for that.
Like, why don't you just start talking about that kind of stuff, you know, and say, I
found it it's called compersion and guys are into this and this is what it's about and blah blah blah
you know like why not start just having those kinds of conversations with her and so she knows that
you're very turned on by it right we know she's very turned on by it you know yeah i think that is a
great like segue into like just just so you know this is a thing that really turns me on and it's
not something that i only want to do because i think you like it which would make you
potentially feel nervous or guilty that like what if I'm present and like just you feel left
out or like being yeah and so yeah no that's a good idea because you said before like you're nervous
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the poor thing and get horny in two seconds. I mean, it's like definitely a thing for her too. And it is
for plenty of women, you know, and she's definitely wired into that. So you know she's into it,
but you need to prove to her. So you bring up compersion first and start talking about that. Like I said,
you must be the type of person that sort of investigates all kinds of things.
I don't know.
You know, she knows you.
So is it going to be that weird if you tell her you started to like look into this because
you like didn't realize like why you were so turned on seeing her with all this thing?
And this is like a thing and it's compersion.
And then eventually you could say, hey, and you know what?
I found this podcast.
And this is what they're talking about.
And then she starts listening to things and hearing like these other women that are
on my show that do it and stuff.
Like listen, first of all, she might be the type that's like, yeah, fuck, let's do it in
real life. But maybe if she's not and she feels like she can never do that, you know, because
she might feel shame or whatever. Like she could listen to my podcast and hear all these other couples
that have been there done that. And I have women on my show all the time. And I think that might
like help her. I don't know. If that's the way that it goes, then it would definitely help her.
And then it's, you know, that's kind of like, let me ask you this. What's the worst, like, let's
flesh out the worst case scenario. You know what I thought for a while the worst case scenario was,
which now I'm kind of back and forth about is the worst case scenario is that she's not honest about the fact that she wouldn't really like it,
but she is so into wanting me to be,
you know,
get the things that I want that she would actually go all the way through with it and then have some, you know,
maybe not even during,
but afterwards just some like guilt slash that was really bad for her.
And then I would have the guilt of like,
oh my gosh,
Of course.
I didn't like, I didn't want this to happen this way.
Uh-huh.
But then I thought about like, you know, what if she, what if she did say, like, I would be into it.
And even if she had to qualify by saying like for you because you like it.
I mean, what if I then still if, and if it was all, you know, like with a good respectable person and then, but it allowed her to realize, like, that was really awesome.
Like, that was great.
You know, I don't love the fact that it's like.
she's not she's saying it's for me when
someone who
wants to feel a compersion that's like kind of like
counter to what you're trying to accomplish
but it doesn't sound like it would be for you I'm sorry
like it sounds like she's horny for
like it like it started with her
being into it first and then you
hopped on board it didn't start with you
like pushing her to like look at porn
in this way and live out this fantasy
it started with you tapping
into the fact that like her
fucking somebody else with the big dick was
turning her on. Sorry, she came first. So it's not like she's doing it for you. We already know that.
What you, what she needs to know is that you're not into it for her, right? You're into it for you.
And you have this thing called compersion. It's like, I remember this one hot wife said her husband gave the
perfect analogy. It was kind of like, you know, if a guy has a Porsche and he gets a new car,
like it's a really nice sports car. And he like lets his friend take it for a ride because he's so
excited about it. That's like the whole thing with guys with hot wives. You know, it's not like, oh,
some guy like that thing that you said in the beginning like a lot of people look down on guys that are
into this if they don't have a clue of what it's about as if some guy is like giving his wife up and
letting someone else fuck him like he's weak it's not that it's like no he's like share it's like the
guy that shares his new sports car with his buddies like take it for a fucking ride you know what
I mean look how well look at what I got you know it's like a that it is like your own porn star it's
all these things that are not negative or weak at all you know and you just need to explain to her
where you're coming from first because I think it's very obvious
that she's into it. Now, doing it in
fake life, fantasy life,
role playing, you know, is one thing. But I do believe
the more you roll play it out, the more
the closer you get to like maybe wanting to do it in real life
because like what comes next after you rollplay it a million times.
You know what I mean? You might need to scratch the itch a little harder.
You know, what's what scratches it harder?
Actually doing it in real life. And if she has you right there with her
talking about she might be the type to go over. You just have to
put out the doing it in real life thing.
You know, you have to put that on the table.
It doesn't mean that she's going to jump on it right away.
She might be like, no, I don't feel comfortable.
I can't find a guy.
I only like you.
Because, you know, it's hard for girls to find guys that just want to fuck, you know.
But who knows?
She might say, yeah.
But even if she says, no, there's no, I don't see a, the worst case scenario is that
she just never is interested in doing it in real life.
That's a worst case scenario.
But it's not like the roleplay would go out.
Why would she stop?
she's not doing it for you.
You weren't the one that forced her into this.
She sort of led the charge, if you ask me,
and without thinking about it,
you know what I mean?
She probably doesn't know anything that you know about all of this stuff,
but you need to start educating her and, like, start with compersion.
And then hot wife and then everything that,
that everything that you found out after, you know,
so that she could also know that she's not weird.
Yeah.
Yep.
No, that makes a lot of sense.
Right?
You just got to do it.
I mean, you have this great app.
You have this.
whole thing. And then sometimes like couples just like, you know, like, and it doesn't have to be like,
oh, let's just go do it with a bull tomorrow. It could be like, why don't we just go on a website and put
ourselves out there and see what we get. Like, and sometimes people just like that one couple that did
the fuck machine, like they started meeting couples because they were really going to do it in real life, right?
And then they started meeting couples and sending like hot videos on themselves and seeing people
into like, you know, whatever that they were so into that and the fuck machine they never did
anything more, but like, you know, you could still dip your toes in other kinds of water.
You know what I mean? Like going on an app, starting to look for people, just talking to a bull,
see what it's like. You don't have to do it just yet, you know, but you have to like gauge her sort
of response first. And it's just about you sort of talking about making turning reality, like fantasy
into reality. You got to be honest about it. And there's, what's the, what's the worst she's going to say
now, never? Yeah, I'm probably not alone in guys that are, you know,
would be a little nervous to pull the trigger on, like, converting it to, like, a real
conversation.
But you don't have to be like, I talk to the fucking bull and it's ready.
Like, you know what I mean?
You could just be like, would you ever, you could just pose it as a question.
Like, you could just be like, do you think like you'd ever do this in real life?
Like, I was like wondering about it.
Like, I even wondered to myself, like, could I handle it?
Like, blah, blah.
You know, like, you could, you could flesh it out with her just like you did for yourself, right?
Like, you said you had different sort of feelings about it.
And you could, like, talk to her about that, like, and say, like, what do you think
about doing this in real life?
life. Like I was thinking to myself because it's so fucking hot. Like, you know, and I started
Googling this thing called compurgent and I like it. I'm like, you know, I think actually
I wouldn't even be jealous if I saw you with another guy. Would you actually do it? Like, why can't
you just like start a conversation like that without like asking her to actually do it? Just like
asking her her thoughts about it. Definitely. That's where it needs to go.
Part of it is that this, even the fantasy play is pretty far outside of like, you know, so that's
kind of already a dump and now we've got to make a little bit more of a job. But it's not
wait, wait, what is it? It's just more. What fantasy and reality is a big jump you're saying?
Well, even from getting to this point in fantasy is like this is pretty, you know, far outside of
where not, I don't want to say that the wrong way. I don't mean to say that she's, you know,
prude or anything like that or not like open. But it's, this is probably the furthest that we've
gotten into something that's, you know, outside of the ordinary, I guess you could say, in fantasy.
So now we're going to keep going further than where we're at as, you know, as long as we,
as long as I make it a safe environment and do more education.
Yeah.
It should just be conversations now.
Like I said, you don't even have to say, let's do it in real life.
It could just be like, would you ever, like, you know, I started to think, like, would I ever,
you know, and this is what I think.
Like, what do you think?
It could just be like a questioning kind of a thing with her.
listen, if you listen to a lot of my episodes,
a lot of guys play the long game, right?
And that's always what you got to do.
I mean, you might be surprised.
Weren't you surprised when you saw how horny she was
just by looking at that big dick on the screen that one time,
how horny she got for it?
Right?
Yeah, I was like,
I just thought about it for days.
Yeah.
But you might not know that, like, you know,
you might, you never read her the right way before
because you never knew she was into this,
but she obviously was.
So like, maybe you're,
you don't realize like that,
She's not that far away from being into it in real life either.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So, I mean, there's nothing, there's no problem bringing it up.
Like I said, I think if you start with the compersion and start with your feelings about it and what you're thinking about and what you're curious about and just like talk to her and maybe, you know, outside of the bedroom.
You know what I'm saying?
Instead of just always in there, you know.
That's where we're at.
or maybe after, maybe like the day after we do have, you know, or something shortly after.
So it's not again, going out of the left field after it hasn't really, you know, been brought up in the bedroom recently.
Yeah, I mean, is she going to be weirded out?
If you tell her, I went, like, looking into this and apparently, like, this is a thing, I never knew it.
Because, I mean, if you explain it exactly the way you explained it to me, like you said,
I don't think any woman's going to be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Like, you literally said a very normal story.
like here I am this guy that never knew that there were any of these words existed.
You know, I just saw my wife look at a big dick and I was like, hmm, I had a lot of weird
feelings about it.
I didn't know how I felt.
You know, the whole sort of story you told me, you could explain to her.
And it's just a matter of like explaining what's been going on in your head.
Nothing in reality has happened.
You haven't done anything.
You're not posting her picks online.
You're not like doing anything bad.
So there's nothing wrong with you bringing up, like I said, exactly what you brought up to
meet to her in a conversation.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
Yeah.
That makes it.
That whole conversion angle, I think, is, that really helps a lot.
That's where you start.
Yeah, that's where you start, because that's one of your fears that she would think that
you're doing it for her or she would feel bad.
You know, because, listen, like I said, I, I've thought, like, over time, because I never
realized until I did my show, like, how much guys were into this thing.
No guy ever copped to me that they were.
Even the guy that I'm banging now, I've been banging in for 10 years.
years. He's never caught to it until recently, okay? Recently, he brought it up. So, and I think that, you know, there's so many guys that are into it. They just don't know how to put it out there because I think, like you said, there's, like, stigma attached to it and what does it mean and, like, imagine what a girl might say, you know, but you've heard so many people on my show sort of play the long game and they're on the other side where you need to be. And I feel like you're a lot farther than most guys. The other guys are calling to my show and lie about their fucking hot wives. Okay. You know those. I have those. Because it is like a thing that's,
It's very, it happens to be like a big kink.
Like, did you listen to Dr. David Lay's episode?
He was like the PhD therapist.
I did.
Yeah, he's so fucking smart, right?
Yeah.
And you know what?
It's weird though because, you know,
I guess this is the whole reason for the word taboo,
because of all of the guys that I know, like my friend group.
Yeah.
If I brought this up to any of them in my mind,
they're all going to play the macho like,
no, wouldn't ever touch my wife or I'm not,
I couldn't believe that someone would,
you know and I'm just like are you being honest with yourself or like if you actually put that
guard down and think about like being there for that and it's all in the up and up because no one's
going behind anyone's back like and this is where it's weird for me like having uh you know this
compersion feeling I'm like I feel like other guys if they were honest with themselves would
be pretty turned on by it too but I don't know maybe maybe not maybe it is actually you know no
I've learned I'm telling you I've been doing my show for like
11 years now.
And I remember one of my first guests, this guy named John, I found out towards the end he was lying because he was sending me like stock pictures of his wife.
But he was like people, I realize, that's when I realized I had this guy John on and he had the whole hot wife situation.
But back then there was no word for it.
But he had the stories of his wife fucking all these guys.
And it was like by far my most, he was my most downloaded guest.
People were obsessed with him.
And that's when I started to realize like this is a thing.
And now because we live in a very different world than we did 11 years.
ago, people are much more out and proud and fine with sort of admitting to it. And I've learned that.
Like, so many guys are into it. Me and my friend were talking about it the other day. I think me and
Lila, we were discussing it on an episode. Like, we were thinking maybe it's because guys are like so
into watching porn, right? And when they're watching porn, they're seeing all these other women,
fuck other guys. And it's like so hot. But like, so seeing their wife do it because so many guys
have said it's kind of like my wife becomes my porn star. And they, I remember one wife said like her
husband used to watch tons of porn and he doesn't even watch it anymore because he gets his porn by
her, you know? And maybe it's like, that's why so many guys are into it because I think so many guys are
into it. I don't think it's like some small group of people that are into this kink. I think there's a lot
of fucking guys that are into it and, and dig it. And I think maybe it's because they're so into porn
and they're looking at all these strange women do it. Why not see your girl as your porn star?
well I would for the other guys out there if you could even get to where I'm at my I
the amount of porn that I watch has gone way down even just since like we even see
fantasize about it see yeah you're living the porn that's what I think maybe it's about you know
because I used to always think like oh my God like you know guys are so possessive of their
girls right like they would never and then I like I've said it before my show like I and I think back
to how many times guys have
have asked me certain questions and stuff, and I gave them the complete opposite answer than
they probably wanted, you know what I mean?
Like, is that guy's dick bigger than mine?
Like, I didn't realize he wanted me to say yes.
It goes against everything you fucking thing.
Yeah.
Because no girl would ever imagine, right?
So you have to, like, educate your woman that this is like a real thing.
Like, guys do you want to see their women?
And they, and that whole bigger dick thing is a reason.
And it's not because they like big dicks.
it's because they want to see their wife pleasure.
The more pleasure she gets, the more pleasured they are.
Like, this is all a real thing.
And it's like across the board.
No, you know that I, and I'm not, no shame on anyone else who's into any of these other things.
I would never, you know, I'm not turned on by participating with, you know, the guy at all.
Right.
It is 100% exactly what you just described where it's like, if that's what brings her to, like, you know,
And that's also part of why, you know, that's a component of it.
Because if it was just some other guy like me, then it's like, wait a minute, why, you know,
if there's an element of it that they can bring that you can't, that's part of, I think,
the explanation of compersion is like, well, I'm bringing my wife this, like, amazing, incredible gift that I can't, you know, bring for her.
And we still have plenty of, you know, great one-on-one time.
But here's this other, you know, opportunity for her to get, you know,
more and if there's nothing shady about it. So yeah, the more didn't take me long. Like I said,
there was maybe like the first couple days of like, ooh, I don't know. Is that like, am I feeling
a little jealous about the fact that she was so, you know, turned on by that? But it went away
really quick as soon as you start to think about like the whole, the whole scenario.
Yeah. Once you were able to put it into words and realize that this is a thing and you understood
what it was about, you were able to like reframe it for yourself. And I think that's what it's
about and I think that's what you need to do for your girl. I mean, you sort of come to terms with all of
this stuff by doing research and investigating and learning about it and, you know, maybe she doesn't
roll like you, but you need to take that information and give it to her as well because that's,
you know, that's what she needs to know that this is something that a lot of people do. She needs to
know that there are women out there that like it. But I think like you start with the compersion first,
but you start educating her and you guys start having conversations about it, you know, because
you're very close, like I said, you know, you're very close to this could be a thing. And then,
you know, eventually you could be like, you know, and I know exactly where I could get a real
bull. You know what I mean? We'll get you set up with Mr. Bull. Well, I also wanted to give you
some credit, too, because I, this has probably been playing out for about a year. And actually,
as much as you would think that there's just all this, you know, there's information, but there's
not like, you know, the Spicer app, for example, okay, so what are some real actual things,
places, sites, apps that you can actually, you know, have, learn about. And you'd be surprised.
That's actually, I learned more in the last, I don't know, I guess I've been listening to your
podcast for about 60 days now. So if you take eight months versus two months, I've learned
10 times in two months having access to all your information than trying to research it
myself for the previous eight months. So, yeah, whatever.
to you for. Yeah, I love that. And I listen, people will be like, oh, don't go online and don't Google things. But I'm like, if you Google fucking smarter, listen or try to get your information in the smart way, you could learn a lot online, you know, and I personally always like to learn like, whenever I would like Google things before like podcasts, I would be like Google it with Reddit, you know, because I wanted to hear real people talk. You know what I mean? There's, who cares about Wikipedia or what some fucking stupid article says about something. I think you learn by real people talking about shit. You know what I mean? And that's what my goal always when I'm talking to somebody.
is I'm thinking about like the listeners listening and what you know will help them learn from this
episode you know and so I always try to get all the details to help guys like you you know and that's
why I'm having you on to help other guys like you because I think you could help them that's why I asked
about what the app is you know and that because I think apps like that are so great because like
I can't tell you how many stories you know because you've listened to them only for 60 days I have
the 1300 episodes okay there's so many more like I know that it's like a domino effect and the first
Domino is just to start talking about your kinks and your fantasies. And that's the hardest thing to do, right?
But I think it's so great that there was that app that you could do. I've heard, you know,
or stories that, like books that have questions that you could prompt because it's all about
communication and you, that's the best way to start. So I love that you called in and explained your
journey. We're going to need, I hope to get a part two. I need an update. Okay, this is what we need.
We need an update. We need you to go. Now listen, how long, okay, let me ask you this because I could
like hold off. Listen, I could hold off. Listen, I could.
hold off on airing your episode.
If we say you're going to do it in two weeks time and then let me know what she says,
you know,
we could,
I could get,
we could add the ending to this episode.
Will you,
like,
do you want to put a time limit on when you're going to bring up,
like,
and start talking to her about it and like the next conversation about the real life stuff
so we could see what she says?
Um, accountability.
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm the type person of that,
I would love that because that helps me,
you know,
it forced me.
I like a time,
I like a,
you know,
something I have to do.
Uh,
Do you want that kind of homework?
You want two weeks to just bring it up in real life and see what she says.
It would be interesting to hear that conversation.
Ten more minutes, we add on to this.
Yeah, two.
Give me three.
I'll give you three weeks.
Listen, I have 50 episodes taped.
I don't need to air yours tomorrow.
So, yeah, you want to do three weeks.
I give you three weeks, okay?
We're at January 8th.
So we're talking February, right?
I'll give you until February 1st, okay?
Well, yeah, okay.
Well, yeah, that's.
that gives me a little bit of extra motivation to just get it out there.
Yeah. So it's going to be three weeks, but on this podcast, it's going to be one second.
You're going to be back on in one second. And we're going to hear what your wife said.
Okay, so listen, I said this in the beginning, but some people skip through the intros, which, you know, I don't take as an insult. I skip through many, most people's podcast introses.
He never called back. He never booked. I'm assuming, you know, he didn't talk to his wife after three weeks.
You know, listen, three weeks goes by super fast.
He might not be ready, and that's totally cool.
I don't look down on him.
These kinds of things, take time.
You got to play the long game.
Maybe he thinks he wants to just wait until he feels more comfortable.
You never know.
Maybe his wife will bring it up.
Who knows?
I don't know.
I hope to hear from him.
I did email him to be like, hey, did you ever reach out?
And I just never heard back.
But that's okay.
I think this episode stands alone on its own as I think,
Many guys will be able to relate to his story.
I think I gave him some good advice.
And if anyone has advice,
I make a comment on Spotify or comment on my Patreon.
But anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.
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it's called Strictly anonymous confession,
Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers,
is now available not only in paperback and ebook,
but you can pre-order the,
audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is
basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category
that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a
cuck story. There's a gangbbing girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all
told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it.
in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse
letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that
kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short. Chapters,
easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book.
It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available.
coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or
pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay,
there's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to
people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other,
and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of
channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be.
It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys
my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot
of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me
at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.
and I will send you the link to Discord.
So anyway,
thanks so much for tuning in.
This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.