Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1374 - Derrick is a Pleasure Dom who Gives Erotic Massages to Women and Couples

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

Derrick loves giving erotic massages to women and couples and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how he realized he was into giving erotic massages, when he decided to post online looking for women he could massage, how and why he cals himself a pleasure dom and why he prefers his sessions to be non-reciprocal, the type of women who responded to his posts, the questionnaire that he created and the questions he has on it,, the average time he spends on an erotic massage, exactly what does down during one of his first massages, the couple he gave a massage to and what went down, the double couple he also massaged and what went down with them, how many he’s gone all the way and why it hasn’t happened a lot, how he has helped women via his massages plus a whole lot more. Reddit: Undermyfirmhands GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠347-420-3579⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://VB.HEALTH,com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2605-anonymous ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your personalized road map to pleasure ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get the Butter massager and get 20% off your whole order Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠t⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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way before he was ever married. He had a girlfriend that was like, you know, that he massaged. And then she passed him on to her friends and he thought it was like super hot. But then he got married. He was in a vanilla marriage. And when he got divorced, he realized he could get back into the whole giving women massages because he remembered that. He was into that kind of porn and stuff and decided to like kind get into it because he was single, divorced. He wasn't looking to get in another relationship. And he did start putting himself out there. And he has like at this point now, he's been doing it for three years. He's seen 250 women. He's seen couples. Okay. One of the couples were on my show. That's how he found my show. Jackie and John told me about his wife, her first experience with

getting a massage while he watched. Okay. But mostly he's done single women who are living out their fantasy of having like a naughty, erotic massage. He talks about what goes down, what they discuss beforehand, you know, how far they take it and what the girls get out of it. And let me tell you, I think you're going to be surprised that this isn't all about sex, right? Some of these women are dealing with issues and they're coming to him and they're like kind of getting healed by the situation. And he talks about that. He also talks about the fact that he's demisexual. He is not really interested in going all the way with these women. He mostly does it. And he's, okay, he really is just pleasuring them.

This is all for fun. No payment is happening in these experiences. He really gets off on pleasuring women, and that's what he's been doing for the past three years. He is on Reddit. I will put, you will hear him, give out his Reddit handle. The Reddit handle will be in the description if you want to find him. He'll also be on my Discord and I'll have pictures of his whole setup on my Patreon.

So anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Derek. Hi, Derek. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? I'm fantastic. Thanks for having me, Kathy. No problem. Listen, Derek, when you first emailed me, you told me, oh, you know, I'm really into giving women erotic massages and you went on and on. I was like, okay, I just got to make sure that you're not doing this for a living and you're not making any cash off of it or whatever.

And you are not. I mean, this is strictly like, I would call it a kick. I mean, you're really into giving women erotic massages and that's kind of like what you do when you play around with people in your private life, correct? Well, I do a lot of things in my private life. Oh, okay. Well, we'll hear about all of them then. No, I mean in the bedroom. No, no, no, no.

Well, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things I'm doing in the bedroom as well. Okay. So here's kind of where it stems from. I consider myself a pleasure dom or soft dom. And, you know, for me, what I love when it comes to, you know, the sexual relations with women is the control that I have over their bodies and pleasure when they're on my table and under my hands. That makes sense.

It's kind of like, you know, you're in a controlled environment. I'm dressed. I'm in a black t-shirt and boxer briefs. And I have a woman in a confined space on a table. And for a lot of women, they have fantasies of having erotic massages. They fantasize. A lot of the women who come to me fantasize about a regular massage, you know, turning erotic. Yeah.

And so I'm here. to make that fantasy become reality for many of these women. Oh, my God. Let me just ask you a quick question. Then we're going to get to like the real story. But like the demographics of the women coming to you, are they typically married or single women? So right now is probably two-thirds single women or who come to me solo.

Yeah. And then another third. And this is something I only discovered about a year into my quote-unquote practice because obviously they don't charge. but but then I discovered that for couples who are into hotwifing where the guy loves to watch his partner receive pleasure from another person

this erotic non-reciprocal massage was like the perfect thing to introduce them to the lifestyle like a guy will talk and this is Jackie and John that yeah yeah because I was going to say oh that that was you because I was going to say I have had more than one couple tell me that that was like their sort of first step into hot wifing. That's what they did.

It was like a little safer than going all the way with a guy, a third person, threesome. They'd set up this kind of massage thing for their wife. More than one, not just Jackie and John, but so Jackie and John, it was you when they told that story? Oh, my gosh. Yes. Small world. That was me. And they sent me the link, which I thought was fantastic.

And then that's why I emailed you and said, hey, I'd be willing to go on the show and tell you more about this adventure that I've been on. But so I discovered that like almost a year in and guys when they finally convinced their wives, hey, let's take this step. Let's do it. And just like you said, rather than like, oh my God, so the first thing we're ever going to do with another guy is we're going to go into full on fucking. Yeah, yeah. And then they came across my post and it's like, this is perfect. So now on my Reddit, I post in subreddits where there's Stag Vixen and Hot Wife. Looking for people.

And then that's how they come across. And I have a different post that talks about what would be appealing about this to a couple and where the guy can watch. And sometimes they just watch in their clothes. Sometimes the guy will take off his clothes and jerk off while he's watching. sometimes, you know, at the end of the massage, he'll step in and take over and fuck and then ask me to stay and watch. So with couples, it can be, it can be really interesting, but it can also be a little bit difficult because if a couple's really into each other, then I start to feel really secondary. And because I'm a pleasure, Dom, what I really like is that one-to-one connection that I make with a woman on my table. Oh, like, because you're not doing this for money.

like you're getting something out of this. And for you, what you're getting out is that one-on-one connection with the woman. Like you are getting off on the scenario. Well, and I also provide it non-recipricably. So the question I get asked by solo women and women and couples is, wait a second, what are you getting out? Why are you offering to like put in the effort to do this two plus hour, you know, central body work if you're not looking for reciprocation? And then I explain what I mentioned earlier that I'm a pleasure, Dom.

So in the same way that Adam, who's a rigor, might spend two plus hours tying a woman in meticulous shabari knots. Like that's his kink. Like, this is my kink. So I'm working with oil, hot oil and a table, and they're working with rope and, you know, hooks and other things to tie people to. Yeah. Well, listen, now that you're on my show in this episode is going to go out on the airways and be out there more than just Reddit, I think you're two-third single women and, you know, one-third couples is going to switch. It might be 50-50 or more couples because, you know, the truth is when I first started doing

my show was a lot of guys listening and then, you know, more girls started listening. And what I get a lot of nowadays is a lot of couples listening. So, and, you know, and I do think it is smart to like go out looking for couples because I do think it is, because I've heard from more than one couple that this is a good kind of first experience into hot wiping. You know, it's not so, it's not. all the way there, but it's a great first step. So let me just get a quick, let me have a quick question for you, Derek.

Are you married? I would assume you're not. I would assume you're single. But maybe I'm single. Okay. No, I'm single. I'm divorced. Okay.

So you divorced. Now, so did this kink thing start before or after your marriage? Well, so way before. So when I was, when I was young and living in a big city, this, I had a girlfriend who was really kinky. and she had just broken up with a guy who was studying to be a licensed massage therapist, and he moved out and he left his table. So one day, it's like, I'm going to bring up this table and I'm going to put you on it.

And she was all down for that. And I just, just using my instincts just gave her this incredible hot oil massage that then turned into sex. And it was like, holy fucking shit, this is, this was really fun. She went on to brag to three of her best friends about it. and they were jealous as fuck. And being a kinky girlfriend, she actually loaned me out to the three of them. Oh,

she was very kinky. Because listen, how old are you right now, by the way? I'm 48. Okay, so we're talking a long time ago, right?

I'm assuming you were married for a long time ago. Like this girl was like, you know, ahead of her times all the way back then to be sharing her boyfriend with her guys,

with her girlfriends? Yeah, absolutely. It was amazing. But she gave me a list of what I could and couldn't do. What was that list? Do you remember? I couldn't,

I couldn't, oh, of course. I couldn't fuck them. Okay. I couldn't go down on them. They couldn't suck me. But they could touch me. And she was fine with those rules. And so at first I thought, it's a trap. It's a trap.

But no, she was serious about it. And I went on over the next few weeks and I gave them each a massage. And that's kind of when a kink was born in my mind. Okay. So now, did you ever, after that experience of doing all that and realizing like you were into this. Did you start studying to massage and, you know, being a dom and all that kind of stuff? Like, when did it, you, because you have all the terms and you know all about it. So I'm assuming, you know, because, and they came out of nowhere, right? So between then and now, you had to have, like, gotten more into it and maybe a more, you know, like, in a deeper way, like that you went looking for information. Yeah. So I, so, so the kink was born. And then I started, I started like looking into other people

doing it and that was a lot of the porn that I was masturbating to. Okay. And, and then I even found there was a guy in New York who was written up at the time. He was written up in all of the different magazines and Playboy channels that he was doing exactly what I'm doing now. But, you know, this is back 20 years ago. And I was so fucking jealous. I was like, oh, my God, this would be fantastic. He was in Manhattan. He called himself Dr. M. And I don't think, I don't know if he's still doing it. But I just thought reading some of the stories that it was kinky. as fuck, but I kind of got into a vanilla relationship, which led to a vanilla marriage, and I kind of pushed all those ideas out of my head. And it was only when I got divorced several

years ago, and I was living on my own, that I was thinking, well, wait a second. I was watching some other massage porn. And I was thinking, wait, I could fucking do this. I mean, with all the social platforms out there, particularly Reddit, there, I bet I could do it. So I bought a table. I studied up. I was watching other like technical massage. videos, but I'm also very sort of instinctual in my approach. And I got a table. I researched the kind of oils that I wanted to use. And I just put some posts up on Reddit. And I slowly started to get people coming to me. And, you know, first, there's always, particularly among solo women, I mean, going to a guy's house, a scary business. So they want to make sure that I'm legit and that I'm good.

and I slowly started to, you know, sort of provide this experience to more and more women, and they would write up testimonials that I would post on my Reddit. And then I, you know, had a couple, and he recorded the video and sent me a clip so I could share these video clips. Yeah, we got to go slower into these experiences, though. You can't be, you know what I mean? We want to, like, slow the fuck down. Okay, we have an hour to talk. Okay.

I mean, you know, how do you know you're so great? because like you did it once for a bunch of girls and then you stopped for a long time. You had a wife. So like I don't, you know, when did you learn how to give a really great massage? Because I would assume you have to kind of get some skills now. You're not really.

Not, not, I mean, you do have to be skilled and you have to be someone who pays attention to a woman's body. Did you go to YouTube University? Like, how do you learn how to give a, uh,

a central massage? I watched a bunch of different videos and tutorials. And, and then it was really, because it isn't therapeutic from the standpoint of I've got to work this not out of a muscle. Totally, yeah, yeah. It's really just about pleasurable touch. Okay.

And, you know, you also learn by doing. And I think, you know, I think I started out, you know, with some pretty good instinctive skills and just intuitively know how to touch women. But then the more that I did, I'm paying attention to what responses I'm getting. and if something seemed to work really well for somebody that was new, I'd take note of it and then try it again on someone else. So you just got better as you went along. Yeah, and my technique over the three years I've been providing this have evolved significantly over time.

Providing. Providing. I mean, you really see it as a service, you know, isn't it like a hookup to you or you see it as a service? Interesting, the words you use. Do you like it to be, to sound like your job? Like, is that a part of your, Dom part of you? Like, is that why you use that kind of language? Yeah, I think that's, I think, I think totally

that's why I kind of talk about that. And also, you know, it's, it is, it is a hookup, but it's not because, you know, it isn't reciprocal. I don't have expectations for that. So I want everyone to come to me to know that I'm not offering this massage experience because I'm, I'm using it as bait, right, to have sex or to have any kind of reciprocation. Because there are, there are guys out there who do this. this, who do it that way. And I wouldn't want anybody to think that. Let me ask you this. Why don't you do it for sex? Like, why don't you want to have sex with these women that you, you know, find online

and that you're hooking up with? Because you weren't kind of hooking up with them, right? Yeah, I mean, it's when it's non-recipricalness one way, I kind of consider myself to be, you hear more women describe themselves this way, but I consider myself to be a little bit demisexual in that I feel like I've got to have a connection with somebody. I like that. I've heard of other guys being demisexual. Yeah. And I mean, I'm not a guy who just would go out and just pick up somebody at a bar.

I couldn't go to a sex club and just randomly find a woman and then have sex. Like I need to have a connection. And when I, when I first connect with a woman who's interested in it, I spent a lot of time chatting, answering all the questions. I have a questionnaire about their. bodies and how they like to be touched that I have them complete. So, I mean, I kind of use this kind of language because there is a process. And I mean, I've worked with, you know, more than 250 women in the three years that I've been doing this so far. With women who book with me, there needs to be a,

there needs to be a basic sort of vibe fit and attraction, right? Like, I don't take everybody. Like, anybody who... What you're trying to do? I mean, you've got 250 women for three. I mean, you know. It's not like you're that picky. You haven't had five in three years. You've had 250 women. How many have hit you up? Probably not 3,000.

I mean, come on. Well, no, I probably at this point, and this changed because I get more requests now, because I post once a week on these different subreddits. And then I'll probably get 20 to 30 requests. Now, some aren't serious. Some are just fantasizing. Some are guys pretending, right? Yeah, exactly.

Some are guys who pretend to have a wife that they want to bring to me and they want me to send them contents and it's like, no, dude. But by going back to your point about having sex versus just massage, the level of attractiveness and fit and vibe that I need to have a woman to accept her for an appointment isn't as high as what I need in order to like have sex with somebody. So I should clarify. It's not that I'm 100% never take anything further with any of these women. And there are some women where my vibe with them is so great. And if it's mutual, they'll go on to have a second appointment or a third. I typically, most women, I think, are kind of one and done or maybe they want a second. But then there sometimes are women in the connections I've had.

I've probably had a half a dozen since I've started where the traction in the vibe was so good that things evolved beyond massage. And usually that involves, you know, Dom subplay, bondage, light impact. you know, other kinds of, you know, dom-sub play. Okay. So did you... And sex. Do you always consider yourself kind of into like BDSM? So I've always known that I'm sort of dominant in sex.

But I didn't really think of myself as a dom until after I got divorced because I had a very, very vanilla marriage that ended up being like towards the end as things were falling apart. And ended up, you know, being celibate. but when, you know, my heart had healed from the divorce and I was, you know, getting ready to go back out there. It was funny. If I, before I did all this, the first thing I did on Reddit was write erotica, like amateur erotica. And that was my first way of interacting with women was just strictly online. And then I started to get connections through my writing and, and then I had a few online relationships.

And then when I was ready to kind of reach out and. and start having in real life kinds of experiences. Massage is the first thing that came into my mind. And then, you know, that's kind of how I transitioned from that. But I think since I started doing the massage work, and particularly when women who lean submissive or who are very submissive come to me and I lean into that,

you know, then I've started to realize that I'm kind of a dom, but where on the spectrum am I? You know, I'm not a sadist. I'm not into, you know, I'm not into extreme things. But in Dom Submission, if you match a status with a masochist, you know, Yatsi, that's a great, that's a great fit. Yeah.

I realize that I'm on the soft side. I'm a soft Dom, pleasure dom, daddy dom, where it's all about the control and the control of pleasure. So a big part of this massage work over two hours is I am edging women to the point of driving them crazy. I mean, just not letting them come until I'm ready to let them come. And this is what I'm getting out of it, is that control of their pleasure and hearing the sounds they make. And then, you know, another great aspect of this is as I've learned more. I mean, I try to think about in what situation would somebody learn more about like female anatomy, arous stimulation, arousal, orgasm without having done what I've done? Like, you can be a swinger and be out there at the clubs every weekend fucking a bunch of different women.

But yet it's not the same as like what I'm doing. when I'm being really attentive to every response and every touch. And it's just, it's, it's been an amazing feeling to kind of know that I've learned so much about what gives women pleasure. And then what I'm able to do is help women learn about their bodies. Like,

I've taught so many women how to squirt who thought they never could or had, you know, partners where they've tried it and they couldn't. And they're amazed. Like when I make them squirt for the first time, the Jackie and John story, right? they mentioned that

that I taught her to squirt for the first time the look of amazement on their faces like when it's like did I fucking just do that it's incredible yeah and it's probably you get pleasure out of that too right I mean just knowing that you were the one

that I always make jokes that like all I got to do is tell a guy that like nobody has ever done this for me and every guy wants to be that one guy right I mean that makes you get off right of course yes yes yes yes it is a huge ego boost Of course. To know that, I mean, I've made this joke. I mean, there are women in their 30s.

I'll come to me and I'll say, so one thing, if they had a really great session, it's like what I really love knowing is that you'll be 85 years old, you know, in your rocking chair, you know, at your retirement center. And you'll, you'll flash back on this. Like, you'll remember the day you came to Derek's house and got naked on his table. And though there's an ego. There's a God complex involved in this for sure. Yeah, I get it.

Okay, so let's go back to like, so, you know, you get divorced, you decide this is what you want to go back to because you remember that, you know, that time with the girlfriend. Do you buy yourself, like, do you just get all the stuff and you're going to be doing this in your house? Like, I want to get to that like first experience. Do you buy like a massage table and you're setting this up in your apartment or are you going to do this in a hotel? Like, what's your plan initially? So the plan is to do it in my apartment. I was living in an apartment right after my divorce, kind of the sort of the tacky. Of course. We know that's why I know. I know it's the divorce department. Yeah. Prestige divorce apartment. And I had two bedrooms. And I set one up, one up, was set up just for when the kids come over and, you know, with the daybed. And there was room for the table. And that was my studio. And yeah, I get a table. I get sheets. I get an oil warmer. I get scented candles. Like I really want to create like a spa like environment from what I do. Yeah. And I want to put women at ease.

I have the bathroom completely set up because they'll want to not only undress in the bathroom, the guest bathroom, then they have access to the shower because the grape seed oil that I use it absorbs really nicely, but you also need to kind of wash it off. So they get to, I put the music in there and put a candle in there and they can take their time and shower off the oil and get dressed. So that's kind of how I set it up in the apartment and it was working really well. and that's where I had been for about two and a half years. I just moved into a private house, specifically for a reason that I had three young women move in above me.

And they did not appreciate the sounds of pleasure coming from my apartment. Oh, my God. They would stop on the floor in protest whenever they'd hear any women moaning or coming. And then I started to get really, because I had two other neighbors above who'd never said anything and maybe it's because they enjoyed it. And these three were like not happy about it. And I, the first time it happened, it was, I had a woman who was really vocal, like she was a screamer. And it was two in the morning. And I realized that was very inconsiderate because the women upstairs, it's two in the morning. You shouldn't be waking them up with loud screaming

sexual activities. So I thought, okay, I'm the asshole here. I need to rain it in and only have sessions go until like 10, right? But it didn't matter. Like whenever they would hear it, they'd stomp on the floor. And I moved the table out into my living room, hoping that I could have the sound spread out more. I could turn my stereo on. And still, it was, I was always so, I was always so worried about that and takes me

out of the moment. So when my lease was up and I was looking for a new place to live, I'm like, no, I got to find a house. I got to rent a house. So I found a really cute house. Okay, but let's not get to there yet. Let's get to your first experience. So how many, you put out an ad like single guy looking for women to give you like an erotic massage kind of a thing.

How many responses did you get initially? Like who reaches out to a guy? Like, you know, who's reaching out to a guy online that's like proposing to have a naughty massage with a total stranger at his apartment? Like what kind of woman was reaching out to you at that time? At this time I would probably categorize her as being sort of a sex explorer. She was, you know, early 30s, sexually active, but just looking for a new experience. Like, oh, this is a hot kink. I've fantasized about this kind of erotic massage.

And now, you know, here's a guy who's offering it. So let me vet him. So, you know, we connected. We go back and forth in the chat feature. answering all her questions, telling her, you know, the origin story, why am I doing this, assuring her that, you know, this isn't a bait and switch for sex, that is completely consensual, that we're, that, that, that I have this questionnaire that I've written up and, and, and going to learn about her and her body and her desires as well as her limits. And it's just fun, safe,

you know, consensual experience. And, and, you know, we chatted back and forth for several days. And then we booked the time for her to come. And she came to my door and I wanted to have a very welcoming environment. What were the boundaries that were put in place on this first time? Like was it that I'm like there's no sex? I don't penetrate you. You can't touch me. Like, you know, there were boundaries with your girlfriend, but she put them on.

Was what like were there any rules of regulation that she had or you had going into this experience? Yeah. So for her, it was never like as far as penetration. It was only going to be, you know, my hands, my fingers, and any toys, you know, that she would want to use or me to use on her. And I think her only really real limit was she didn't want any kind of anal, anal touch or stroking or penetration. Okay. Was hers. Everything else was kind of, you know, fair game.

And she gave me her, you know, tips on how she'd like to be touched, how fast, what kind of patterns. You know, she gave me insight into whether she'd ever had G-spot orgasms or, or A-spot orgasms. And so, you know, with that questionnaire, I was pretty well armed. You had a questionnaire already before the first one. Yeah. What else was on that questionnaire? So I ask, you know, what are your erogenous zones?

Like, you know, what are your, you know, do you have anything, you know, typical? Is it neck, ears, nipples, any other erogenous zones? And I ask right up front, is there anywhere that you do not like to be touched? And there are some women are like, I do not like, I do not. want my feet touched, but other women are like, no, I love my feet, but touched and massage. Yeah, of course. But not everybody. And I ask about clitoral touch. How do you like your clit? Like what kind of speed pressure locations, patterns? I ask about do you like internal penetration as well, either with fingers or toys? I ask about their experience with G-spot

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I ask about do you like internal penetration as well, either with fingers or toys. I ask about their experience with G spot and A spot stimulation when it comes to internal. I ask about any type of anal stimulation, whether soft strokes through the oil or any kind of penetration. I ask, yeah, I think that's most of the questions that I ask. Okay, so you send her that. Do you guys exchange pictures? Does she want to see you? Do you want to see her ahead of this first massage that you're doing?

Yeah. So, you know, I don't want to be perceived as being completely, you know, lookist because the connection is beyond just how someone looks or what body type they have. So I explain that, you know, getting this fit and vibe and attraction is through chatting and learning about each other. But then we'll need to do a pick exchange as well towards the end. And now I'll send them. Yes.

Okay. And, and yeah, they'll send me a pick and I'll send a pick and if we're both feeling it and there have been times I think maybe where they looked at my pick and decided, eh, I'm not feeling up with this guy and, you know, sometimes it goes the other way around. Yeah, interesting. Okay, let me, walk me through that first experience or second or third or whatever. Walk me through one of your first ones and what went down. Like, are you nervous going into this in the beginning?

Because like, you know, it's all like the pressure's on you, right? You got to turn this girl the fuck on. You're living out her fantasy for her. or are you excited, are you horny? Like, what are you feeling going into this in the beginning? I don't think I was that nervous because, yeah, the pressure is on me, but what I'm providing is something that even, even forget the sexual aspect of it, you're getting like a fucking amazing free massage.

Right. Because this isn't like, you jump on the table and it's a finger bag. Right. I mean, this is, this is two hours long, right? Like, that's how long they kind of cover. I tell women that I don't put any time limits on sessions. I've had a session go seven hours, eight hours. Wow.

Wow. How long was this? The one we're talking about, how long does this one go? This one probably goes an hour and a half. Okay. Average is like hour and a half, two hours? Yeah, a couple hours plus with talking because when they arrive, you know, we always sit and have a drink or give them some water and we talk and we chat and we just kind of vibe in person.

And sometimes I'll meet, like some women will want to meet out publicly, so go to a Starbucks or somewhere. and have a public meet just for safety reasons. But most are happy just to come to my place. We sit down, you know, let them sit anywhere they want in my place. And I pull up a chair, not too close and just let a vibe build and just see how they're feeling about it. Okay. So what is she instructed when she comes into your house?

Does she disrobe? Is she in a towel? Like, walk me through like a typical massage. When she comes in the door? Yeah. She comes in the door. I take her coat. I welcome her.

I look. I kind of assess is someone looking particularly nervous. And I can see, like, sometimes a woman will be shaking unless she wants this experience, but she's shaking at the door. And it's like my job to be very comforting and say, listen, you're in a safe place. And, of course, you've told your friends where you are. And this is my house, as you can see, where I live. And I invite them in.

I take their coat. I sit them down. I ask what they want anything to drink. And we just sit and we just hang. vibe and we make small talk or I ask her how she's feeling talk about other experiences that she's had and then I kind of assess where you know when's the right time and I say okay you're ready and then I explain here I'm going to guide you I'm going to give you a tour of the house or the apartment and here's the bathroom this is where you'll disrobe wrap yourself in this clean towel

here's the studio you're going to meet me back here the oil is warming the candles on and I leave the towel like and I explain that you know I'm going to use the the towel as sort of a, you know, a privacy drape, you know, as we get started, just so you feel more comfortable. Like a real massage. You're setting the fantasy up. Like this is a real massage that's going to go turn naughty. Yeah. And so I do that. I go in and I get ready and I wait for them in the studio. And they come out in their towel and they start face down. And I loosen the towel. I kind of slide it down over their butt and their legs. And I start the massage at the neck and shoulders. and I'm giving a really great, I mean, I'm giving a really nice massage that, you know, someone would have to go to, you know, a spa to get. And it's really about the slow build as I work my way down from their neck to their shoulders

to their lower back. And then by the time I get to their glutes, most women, like, you know, really getting turned on. And I kind of do, you know, their legs will spread a little bit and I'll kind of dip, you know, my fingers down on the inner thighs and I can just feel the heat and the wetness. starting to sort of just sort of radiate up and then I can know okay I'm doing this right because she's responding and yeah I keep working my way further down the body I'm doing more teasing kind of glances with my fingers through the oil if if they've said that they do enjoy you know anal stimulation that I'm moving the oil spreading her ass cheeks and just

circling and just using my fingers to just do soft circles and rubs. And I can usually tell how they're responding, you know, whether they would want pressure or any kind of insertion just with fingers. And then I keep working my way down to the backs of their thighs, all the way down to their calves and their feet. And I like really do a hard, firm pressure on feet and toes. And I make a hard, it all the way down and then I ask them if they need a break because it's time to flip over. Sometimes they'll go and do a P break. Other times they're ready just to turn and they turn and I take the towel. I lay it back over them to kind of privacy cover. And then I start again from the head down the body to the toes and looking at the responsiveness I'm getting,

our nipples getting hard and tightening. Oh, I didn't tell you, I do make it an option. I don't put this in the questionnaire, but as I vibe with somebody and that if they feel like they're really open to this experience, what I do tell women who come to me is that I'm willing to use my mouth on expanses of skin, like breasts, nipples, necks, ass cheeks, but for, you know, 99%, well, maybe not that many, but it's, it's only with with women where there's a connection where things go further, you know, when I do oral on them. And that would be like much later after many appointments. But typically, I mean, you're kind of talking generally now. We got off of that first experience. You're talking basically generally what typically happens. Sometimes we'll talk about some extra hardcore ones and get some good stories. But like typically this is what's going down in the majority of times, correct?

Yes. Yeah. Yes. So with this woman, for the first one, I was much more limited and I wasn't even pushing. You know, on this first one, now they say, because I was talking generally, I did not use. my mouth on her because I didn't ask her up front about it. And I was picturing this as being a hands and fingers only experienced. Right. But I did give her, so she came to me having had G-spot orgasms before and having squirted. And I had research, there's a ton of tutorials online that you

can find. And so I found one that kind of showed the technique that's needed for that. And so that was the first time in my life actually because squirting wasn't such a big thing as a younger guy in my 20s when I was with partners then. So that was actually the first squirt that I made happen, which again, is one of those, it was an aha moment for me. It was like, oh, this is fucking great. And, you know, a lot of women with squirting, if you're in a bed and if you're not on a waterproof, you know, blanket, it can get messy and some women don't want to do it. And what I tell women is, like, this is a free squirt zone because I've got a table with clean, clean sheets, and they all go in the wash. So you can, you can flood the room.

But anyways, that was the first time that I had done that, and that was really hot. That was very cool. Let me ask you a question. Because girls get post nut clarity too, okay? Like, that's a real thing. Like, you're in the mood, you're horny, and then you come, and then you're in reality, and you're like, what the fuck? I'm not this.

Like, do you ever find, like, do you find that these girls, like, the minute they come, they want to get the fuck out, or you have them so relaxed and you're so, comfortable with them, like, you know, what happens after, like, you know, they have their happy ending? Well, so, you know, oh, another one of the questions from my questionnaire that I just remember is, are you typically, do you have multiple orgasms or you typically one and done? Yeah. So if someone's one and done, then I've learned that I need to kind of do excessive edging

so that it's really a big build so that once they have that one orgasm, it's over. It didn't come too soon. They got as much of the other sensual touch benefits as they needed before then finally having that orgasm and then having to like some pass out on the table. Yeah. Some curl up in a ball and I go and get myself a drink and check my email and let them. I call that the bliss out after a hard come like that. Yeah. And you give them a little time.

You leave them in the room. You walk out. You give them a little time. Yep. That's interesting. That probably makes it feel more comfortable. Yeah, exactly. I cover them with a towel.

So if their towel is completely off and I've just given them a really hard orgasm, I make sure that they're okay because some want to be held. Some have aftershocks that they almost vibrate off the table. So I make sure they're okay. I lay the towel back over them. And if it looks like their eyes are closed and they're breathing heavy and they just need a minute, I'll walk out and give them a few minutes and then come back in and then see, You know, what I tell everyone is there's no time limits.

This is, you have to tap out. You have to tell me when you're done. And, you know, when I ask how they're feeling and what do they want more of and sometimes they're like, okay, I think I'm really done. And then, you know, escort them to the shower. Others are like, no, I'm ready to go again. Or I just need a minute because I'm sensitive. Mm-hmm.

Oh, so sometimes the multi-orgasmic ones are, you go back to the whole thing and give them another whole massage and everything all over again. I don't go back and do like a whole head to toe, like the process that I follow. You just do the more like the fingering and stuff. I go, well, I don't go right back to that. Like I will have my hands running over them. But maybe, you know, if they're on their back now, like I'm, I'm gliding my hands, you know, through the oil over their tits and their belly and cupping their pussies and then go back

into the kind of stimulation that they want. Yeah. Tell me about your couples. Like, when was it, was it surprising to you when you first heard from a couple that wanted to do this and then tell me like a couple experience. Not Jackie and Johns because we heard theirs. Unless they were the only couple. You could tell me.

So now I do have very clear memories of my first couple. Okay. So there was a couple who were middle age. They're in their early 40s. They, the wife had just lost a considerable one of weight. So she was like ready to feel sexy again. And so her husband contacted me.

and explain their situation and this is the way they wanted to dip their toes into it. So they booked a hotel. So I'll meet couples oftentimes at hotels. I'll just pack up my table and all my gear. It's pretty transportable. And I'll go meet couples at hotels, which is hilarious walking in. And like, you know, there's the hotel clerk and I'm walking by. I'm like, oh, on my way to provide some physical therapy to a guest.

Yeah. That could happen legitimately. I know, but if they only really knew. Exactly. I know all this time that's going down in the hotel. Riding up in the elevator with people. It's funny. So I knock on the door and they open it up and he's looking more nervous than she is.

And he's a big guy. He's like taller, I'm six to and he's like six four and like a big bear of a guy. And I didn't feel like unsafe or threatened. I do worry sometimes with couples. where it's new, is a guy going to freak out at seeing another guy do this? That's legitimate. But I felt pretty good about the two of them. And, you know, so I, you know, I had him undress her just to kind of make him part of that process and put her on the table for me.

And I gave her the massage like I was, you know, talking about the structure of it. And we're both kind of watching him. And particularly as she's getting aroused and starting to resour, bond, he's got a wide-eyed look about him and he's filming everything. He's taking pictures and he's filming, but he looks like he's going to jump out of the skin. And we're both kind of worried about it. And, but he was just so overstimulated. And, you know, when we kind of got through a few orgasms, we took a break and she asked him, honey, are you all right? And he just, he couldn't put words together. And we were both a little bit nervous about it. And we decided that was a good

time. I mean, it's been two and a half hours. That was a good time for us to break. And I packed up and I left. And he was saying a few things. I was like, okay, maybe this is not for him. But it was two days later. They contact me. And it was him. And he's like, sorry, I was completely overwhelmed. I love this more than I could even put into words. And I had to process it. And we want to book you again because it was so fucking great. So I felt, I felt good about that. How far did you go with that couple? And what were they looking for specifically? No penetration as well? No, she wanted, you know, all with my hands and toys. She brought toys as well. So, you know, I put her in multiple positions on the table and use toys and use my fingers. And she wanted, you know, anal stimulation. And I did some double

penetration with my hands and then bringing a toy in. He stayed dressed that first time. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. And just watched. Okay. No videotaping or anything? No, he did. He was taking pictures and videotaping that first time. And you allow that? If they keep my face out of it. Okay.

So that was the first one, but I ended up having multiple sessions with them where they, like, this was their introduction to the lifestyle. They started going to the local sex club in town and connecting with other couples. And then they'd find a couple and then invite me to a hotel suite to massage with two tables. to massage both women, like one after another, like, I'm massaging one while the other one's having sex with the other. Like, it's, it was kind of crazy. The other one's having sex with who?

Her partner? Yes. Okay. So you're, you have two couples in there. So when you're massaging one, her husband's watching her while the other couple is like fucking. No, no, no. Tell me, explain.

The husband, so I massaging. So say the first couple that was the one who pulled this all together. I massaging his wife. Yeah. And the other guy's husband is watching me do this while this guy is fucking the other woman's wife. And what is the guy for the wife that's getting banged out? What is he doing? He's watching him.

He's watching me. Okay. It's like a little swap. Yes. Okay. But the difference is there's four naked people and I'm in a T-shirt and boxer briefs. So it felt like I'm like the pool boy or something like the. the towel boy at an orgy.

It was kind of crazy. How was that? Yeah, but how was that for you? Like, is it like not like, do you, are you getting off on seeing like this guy, fuck this woman? Are you not a voyeur because you're in like work mode kind of quote unquote like in a weird way because you're. That is seriously, Kathy, that is so insightful.

Yeah. I'm in, I'm in this work mode. I'm focused on bringing pleasure to the women under my hand. So and I also in group settings like, it's not something I can get aroused by because I don't know I feel intimidated by it I'm not like people think that because of what I do I'm in the lifestyle meaning like going to swinger clubs I've never been to the local swingers clubs but couples that I've done this for they meet other people who have been to me and they talk about me in these sex clubs it's hilarious I've never been to either of them but they're like oh we had this great massage oh I did too oh Derek yeah oh my god that's so funny so they passed you along It's like word of mouth then it becomes, I've gotten referrals. I've got in referrals exactly that way. Yeah, that's super. Well, listen, you know, people ask me a lot of times when I do Q&A is their favorite question for guys is like, oh, like, do you get horny when you listen? I'm like, no, I'm sorry.

Like, I just can't, like, I'm in a different headspace when I'm doing this. So it's just not possible. It's never, you know, and you could understand that. It's no different than, you know, the gynecologist, too, you know. So anyway, wait, let's get back to your story. So you've done couples now. You've obviously gone further with some women where there has been penetration and that's when you have been maybe developed a relationship with a woman that's coming more than once or something? Like when have you crossed that line ever? I know you that you said you have. That's when I feel that mutual vibe and usually at a second or third. And, you know, there are some women like so there's some women who say, oh, aren't you going to get hard just by touching me? And I'm like, no, because I need, I need to feel someone's desire.

for me in order for me to be attracted to them. And when the vibe is there, there'll be some women who really feel, like when I first started, I said, you know, non-reciprocal because I didn't want anybody to ever feel like I was fishing. But then I realized when I asked one woman after an appointment, like, how was it? And when we sat down to do the debrief kind of after the massage and the shower, she's like, oh, it was great, but I felt so frustrated. And I said, why? Because I wanted to touch you so bad, but, you know, it touched my cock, but so bad.

but I knew it was against the rules. And that made me rethink it. So that with some women, like if, you know, I tell them, listen, if you are someone who just needs to touch while being touched, feel free. You can touch me however and wherever you want. I don't want that to impede the pleasure you're feeling. Right. You want that to be frustrated.

And just no, I do not. I'm allergic to reciprocation for the sake of reciprocation. I couldn't, if I thought someone was touching me because, oh, he's doing such a nice job. on my body, I guess I should give back. I couldn't even get hard because I, it just turns me off. Yeah, yeah, I get it. But if someone's into me, if someone's really into me,

I'll let them touch me. Okay. And how many girls have you, have been into you that you've been into out of the 250? Well, there's different levels. So there's some women who stroke me while I'm like, in and out of reach. No, I mean that you,

that you become demisexual for. To where, like, go all the way to fucking? Yeah. Oh, God. I mean six or seven that I've actually fucked. Yeah, okay. But then there's been plenty more who've stroked me while I'm hard as I'm walking around the table.

There's been others who've sucked me, stroke me and sucked me. And so there's many more of those. And then. Yeah, but I'm actually interested in the ones, the six or seven. Like, what was it about them? Were they people that you got to know over time? Was it just something about them? Like there was just a vibe?

like, you know. Yeah, I mean, sometimes there's an immediate vibe. I'm seeing someone now that started with massage who the minute she walked in the door, I was like, holy fucking shit. Like I, because the pictures we exchanged were a little bit distant and I couldn't quite tell. Yeah. But we, our chat was really amazing. And she comes in the door and I'm like, oh my God.

And we went and had a massage and it was fantastic. for her, fantastic for me. She lives really close. And I'm like, you have an open, you have an open door invitation. Wait, are you dating this girl now? Well, I don't know if we're putting labels on it, but we're spending a lot of time together. That's kind of interesting. And, yeah, and things have gone far past massage with her, obviously. And, but that's, this is the, this is the only time has kind of gone that far with her. But there have been others where, you know, for a period of time, you know, it's maybe what they need in their lives and they come to me for this and it goes a little bit

further but they kind of know that I'm not looking to be exclusive that's kind of been in the past and you know it's just really interesting I mean some like I said the first woman was a sex explorer who had other opportunities for sex and was sexually active but this just seemed like something new but I've had some women come to me who are literally touch-starved

I mean they're either out of a relationship and not wanting to kind of do the whole hookup where you're expected to have full on sex. And it's like, I just want to be touched and I'm touch deprived and they come to me. And that's amazing when that happens. There are some women are coming out of neglected or, you know, even abusive relationships where they've been made to feel like they're broken. And, you know, and it's really just they haven't been with a partner who is willing to put in the time. Like there was one woman who came to me who said, I've scarred by my last boyfriend who told me was taking me too long to come when he was fingering me.

And now it's in my head that I've got to be on it. I've got to go quicker. And I'm putting men out if I take too long. And I had explained to her, listen, there's no time limit. This is about you. And I love what I'm doing. And if it takes you an hour, get out of your head into your body and let me just play with you. Let me just make this work.

person needs to unwire that wiring that her boyfriend did to her for sure. Yeah. I mean, I had a woman come to me. I'm on another dating app called Field where a lot of people connect for a sort of alternative experiences. And there was a woman in her late 20s who was a virgin. And she put that on her profile, that she had anxiety in her teens and 20s and just never had sex, never been touched by anybody.

And I reached out to her. And she connected with me and I reached out and I said, listen, this could probably be perfect. I mean, this could almost be like sex therapy in a way. Yeah. And she was the one who showed up in my door shaking like a leaf. I mean, and I held her hands and they were just clammy. She was terrified and just so nervous. That took a lot of time to kind of get around the couch and relax and talk about, you know,

what we're going to do and that, you know, we can limit it, you know, whatever she feels comfortable with. And after several sessions, she had learned I had taught her so much about her. body and she messages me one day and says that she found a guy that she's dating and that she feels so comfortable with him only because, you know, she had done so many sessions with me. Wow, that's kind of amazing. I mean, as the pleasure, Dom, that must feel good too. I mean, it does sound like, I mean, because, you know, you are spending a lot of time with these women because it's really about them. You must hear, you must have a lot of kind of feedback from women that is deeper than them just getting off. Like, like you're kind of like helping them with

certain things. Well, when you teach a woman to come in a different way, like I had an appointment a couple weeks ago where the woman told me that, listen, I can have multiple orgasms, but I get really sensitive. Yeah. And for clitorial orgasms. And she had never had a G-spot orgasm and said, I've tried. I don't think I can. And I gave her first one and it blew her mind. And she found that she wasn't sensitive, that I could go on to give her four and five and six. G-spot orgasms and squirts, which is now like something new she learned about her body, and she was bragging to a friend in a screenshot conversation, a chat she had that's like, oh my God, and now I can have all these orgasms and back to back, and I'm not overly sensitive.

I don't have to stop. I don't have to take a break. So, you know, being the guy who can teach somebody something about their body and the way it can feel pleasure that they never knew before is just fucking amazing. I mean, I, it's, I mean, I've been told I'm doing guys. I know this sounds like I shouldn't say it, but literally multiple times. It's like you're doing God's work with what you're doing for women. Yeah. Yeah. It's super interesting. I mean, listen, I'm talking to people about their sex lives and if you look at my titles, it looks like a dirty sex show. But like, I can't

tell you how many emails I get from people telling me like, thank you so much. You help me for this or that reason. So just because we're talking about sex here doesn't mean that you're not helping people in one way or another. And that can be true. Both things can exist in the same time. You can be fingering girls and profoundly changing their life at the same time. I'm sorry. It's true. I mean, it sounds like it. You know what I mean?

Like, and that's women's, especially for women, you were talking about the sort of poor girl who his boyfriend told her she took so long. I just am posting an episode tomorrow all about like the orgasm gap and how guys just think like women are supposed to like be ready and able to come as fast as them. And it's just so different for women. And women are so much more complicated. And, you know, if they get wired into something bad with their body for whatever reason, there's so many things that could happen to women to men.

make them wire to not be able to come or not be able to have multiple orgasms or all that kind of stuff, you know, that, you know, that, changing that or fixing that in a woman can really change her life because a lot of women have issues when it comes to stuff like that. Because a woman's head and pussy are like, you know, your brain and pussy are very like connected. You know what I mean? Like it's not as easy for women as it is for guys. You know, it's more complicated and there could be more issues. So I think you are doing the Lord's work.

And you are also going to get hit up by couples because you're helping couples, like, get into the hot way thing in a very safe way, right? So why don't you give like a shout out to, you know, where people could find you if they want to find you? Because you're like on Reddit and Field, right? Yeah, I'm basically on Reddit and Field. I'm on Fed, but I don't know. I haven't really made very many good connections on Fed.

So just get out your Reddit. That's the easiest place. So my Reddit. My Reddit is under, this is all together, under my firm hands. Okay. Okay. and people could find you there. There's a lot of great, like I try to give as much information to make people feel comfortable.

So there's a description, a detailed description of what a session entails. I've got testimonials from women who've, you know, written up their thoughts about how it made them feel and what they like. I got the testimonial, Jackie and John, they met you in person. They vet you that you're like a real person that really does this and it's all up and up and it's cool. I got that story too. Yep. So they could go listen to that episode and hear a couple's experience if they want a real review. Exactly.

Oh, I forwarded link to that story to a few, you know, prospective women who are considering wanting to come to me. But I mean, for people that are listening, I think it's great. So I'm going to put the name under firm hands, right? No, under my firm hands. Oh, under my firm hands. Okay. I mean, when I edit it, I'll hear it again. but under my firm hands,

I will, for all people driving, I will put the name in the description so people know how to find you on Reddit. If you want to send me like a picture of your setup or any kind of cool pictures for my Patreon, that would be cool. Like maybe like the room that you massage people in, I think that would be interesting.

You will go after we hang up, a free, like not a free. I mean, my Discord is free, but it's private. You can only get in if you get a link through me. And I have a lot of people on there. My people on my Discord are going to fucking love you. So you could go in there one now that you called in. You're going to get a link, the private link, to get into my Discord.

And you could do your thing there. You know what I mean? You could say this is what you do. And people are hooking up over there. Okay, it's all kind of like-minded people. And then when your episode airs, you can, you know, post whatever you want and talk to people about it. And I'm sure people are going to be hitting you up for massage.

I'm assuming that if they go to your Reddit, they'll see where you are located. I don't really like to give out. I don't like to out anybody, even if they want to be out of it. or give people like places where people live because I don't want any problems. But I'm assuming if they go to your Reddit, they will find out where you're located, correct? It's clearly in my post so they know. Okay, cool.

And I've had people local, but it's funny is, you know, because I think I'm unique, I think, in terms of being... People travel. Providing this and being really good at it. There are people who come to me from all parts of the state I'm in and from neighboring states. I've had a couple people, a couple couples literally fly in.

to book with me. And they book a hotel and I tell them, I'm going to give you extended sessions for making the effort. So, yeah, I think what I'm doing is pretty unique and I think it's much needed. And listen, I got to tell you, I mean,

it sounded like you didn't kind of want to put it out though that you're demisexual. But I think that only helps women feel safer with you. You know what I mean? Women could smell like a letcherous guy from a mile away. You know, and the fact that you're sort of not there getting horny for every naked girl when she's laying on your thing.

probably helps women relax with you. You know what I mean? I think that only helps and is the reason why women come back to you because they don't feel like, you know, for you, you said I wanted to make it really clear that you're not in it for anything. And I think they must, they know that and they get that because you're not, right? And that's a good thing. That helps this situation, especially for women.

Yeah. I think the only time that I would be disappointed by an appointment is if, you know, somebody was so sort of tight that they couldn't relax and enjoy it. Like the only wasted time I've ever had, and this only happened, I think, once, is when someone, you know, left frustrated. Yeah. Or, or one woman who was just curious about it and then tells me at the end, I don't really like massages after I spent 90 minutes.

Yeah. Oh my God. Fuck yeah. Well, listen, I have a lot of people that like massages. They're going to fucking love you. I think, like I said, I think it's kind of a good thing that you mentioned that you're demisexual. I think it's a safe sort of experience for a type of woman if she wants to live out that fantasy or for a couple that wanted to get into the hot wiping thing and the guy wants

to watch his wife be pleasured. And for the wife, I think this is a very great first step. So I will put the, so thanks for calling in. I'm glad that Jackie and John gave you the link to call in. This was super interesting. And I will let you know when your episode airs, but send me the picks of like your room or your setup or anything for my Patreon ASAP, okay? Because this will be up very soon. I will. I'll send it right now. All right.

Awesome, Derek. This was super fun. Thanks, Kathy. Thanks, Derek. Bye. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book.

The book is called Shirkley Non-Mas Confessions. Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gang-bang girl story.

There's like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person. I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show. You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third person.

There's an e-book available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the e-book. It's available. If you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay, there's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks, okay? It's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with each other.

That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures and there's tons of channels and we have contests over there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buys my book at any time access to my Discord. It is private. It's the only way you could get in is through me giving you the link. And that's why I think my Discord is so great because I have vetted people.

It's not like it's just open to the public. So everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show. And people that listen to my show are fucking great. So my Discord is fucking great. My book is great. You're going to love it. If you buy it, all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it. And I will give you free access to my Discord.

Send it to strictly anonymous podcast. Atgum.com. You could find my book in the link in the description, okay, or just Google at Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. You can find it anywhere. You buy books. Send me the picture and I'll give you access to my Discord email, strictly anonymous podcast at Gmail.com.

Anyway, thanks so much for listening. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all

true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay?

There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.

It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. that's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and i will send you the link to discord.

So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.