Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1376 - A Busty Granny, a D*** That’s Too Big & Hardcore Guy on Guy Action?! Sex in the News: w/Luna

Episode Date: February 22, 2026

Luna called in to discuss some recent sex in the news articles with Kathy including a grandma who went from being sexless to becoming an escort, a guy who was outed for having too big of a d*** and how Heated Rivalry is increasing guy-on-guy porn searches in women. Tune in to hear them discuss Busty Grandma and how and why anyone can reinvent themselves and get in touch with their sexuality at any time, how and why transactional sex isn’t always just about the sex, why Luna’s clients at the brothel come to see her, how and why a lot of women wind up becoming way more open about sex later in life, is having too big of a dick a reason to get divorce, can a dick even be too big, its it okay to talk about other people’s privates online, guy on guy sex and how its become popular with women, the stigma that still exists when it comes to guy on guy action and how thats maybe changing, how there are tons of guys who dig hooking up with guys, how a lot of women are now totally into watching gay porn, porn for women vs for men plus a whole lot more. You can check out Luna's podcast here GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of LUNA plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fast forward those other intros if you want or join my Patreon because you get ad free intro free episodes over there. But anyway, today I have on Luna Robbie discussing sex in the news with me. I wanted to do like, you know, for Sunday episodes I'm trying different things. So I wanted to do like a sex in the news segment every now and then when there's like interesting sex stories out there. So I pick three for this one. One is an article that was out. You might have heard of it. I get all my, I got my news from X.

I don't know where you get your news from, but my ex told me about a 73-year-old woman, I think, who was like sexless her whole life, never into sex. And then when she was like in her late 50s got into it. And then she is now an escort. She lives in a place where it's legal. And she's doing that. So we talk about the woman who is currently, she's like a gilf escort. She's like 73 now, I think.

And she's like banging 18-year-olds. You know, that's an interesting story we talk about. We also talk about the football player whose dick was too big. and his wife talked, his ex-wife talked about it on a podcast. That was a whole new story. We do have an argument about that one. Okay. She doesn't think it was an argument. It's not really an argument. It's like a debate. You might get a headache. Okay. I'll try to edit it so it doesn't sound so bad, but we do have a debate. And I don't mind a debate. Even if people think I'm fucking wrong and they're like, Kathy, you're just a bitch or you were totally wrong. She was right. I don't care.

I like a debate. I always love it. I think it makes people talk. I want to see where people stand on the debate. So we do talk about Dick's being too big or not too big and communication and couples. I mean, these stories that we talk about lead to conversations about so many other things, right? And then we talk about all the porn searches for hockey, gay sex because of heated rivalry. So we talk a lot about guy on guy action and that whole phenomenon and how so many women are going fucking nuts for it. And then at the end, we start talking about Luna and what she wants in a guy because I'm trying to pimp her out and she works at the brothel and she talks on what she wants and what she doesn't want. Like I said, these stories that we talk about lead to conversations about so much more

plus a debate or an argument. I don't know what you're going to call it. You might be irritated by, but I'm going to leave it in because I think it's interesting. So anyway, this is something fun. I'm trying for a Sunday episode. It's bonus. I give you seven episodes a week. I don't expect everyone to love every fucking episode. I feel like if you get one or two a week that you dig, I'm happy, right? That's what I want to do for everyone. That's why I have seven different episodes a week. This is my Sunday bonus episode. Hope you enjoy it. I'm going to be right back on with Luna.

Hi, Luna Robbie. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Kathy, I'm always awesome when I'm here to talk to you. I'm super excited to talk about these articles. Oh my God, Sex and the News. I've been someone set up a hashtag for me, Sex and the News. I've been wanting to do sex in the news.

I don't think we've never talked about this. But years ago, yeah, when I was trying to do sex at work and sex stories and all, like, too many things at once, I was like, and every day, I'll look up an article. And so when you were like, I was like, yes, yes, please, yes. Yes, I think it's fun. Because whenever the, listen, the thing I love most, I don't just love talking to people about sex. I like having the conversations afterwards at these, my sex talks bring up, right? Like the bigger picture topics.

I love to talk about shit and analyze it and go back and forth. And that's what we're going to do with these articles. I chose three. We're going to talk about them. The first one is a woman who became an escort. So we're going to be talking about that. We're going to be talking about one where, like, somebody out at someone who's having

too big of a dick and you know the question is is there such thing as it's too big of a dick and then we're going to talk about like this whole phenomenon surrounding heated rivalry so we're going to be talking guy on guy sex I don't care if it's by or gay it's guy and guy sex is all the rage right now

so we're going to talk about that too but let's start off with the great story that I saw recently that I fucking loved I've had this story on my show I had a woman named Crimson she's in my book actually my book sex size of total strangers. She was a gilth porn star.

She became, and she didn't do it until way later in life. It wasn't like she was horning her whole life for anything. She was a vanilla nurse turned gilth porn star later in life. And that's the story with this lady. Now, me and while both, I mean,

me and Luna both read the stories. We're going to wrap about it. So in this one, it's like the lady, she didn't like sex. She said even when she was younger. And then when she got a little older and she lost her sex drive, she was like,

oh no. When she got a little older, she became a born again. Christian, she said by the time she became that, and it was like against the church, she didn't really fucking care because she never really like sex or enjoyed it when she was younger, like many women in her generation, right? She's like in her 70s now. And so she like didn't fucking care, right?

But then all of a sudden, like way later in life, she was like hit with mortgage bills and she couldn't pay her bills and all this stuff. And she like was online and like guys were like hitting on her and she couldn't believe like really young guys were hitting on her and stuff. And all of a sudden she had like a total sexual awakening. Now that now she's in her 70s. but this happened when she, I think she said she was like 57. And she was having guys as young as 18.

You know that's a kink, right? Like, I mean, that's why there's a whole gilf porn section online, right? And she liked the attention. And she started to really fucking enjoy sex. And someone told her like, hey, you could like do this for a living. She was like starting to do like photos with some guy. And he was like, why don't you like do this for a living and you could fucking. The interesting thing she said to me was that she didn't want to do like only fans or anything like that

because you got to like produce content 24 seven. And there's nothing more true than that. everybody out there that thinks you're just going to go and start on OnlyFans and post three picks and make a million dollars. That's not the case. You do have to tend to it. And she's like, I have no desire to do that. So she started doing, she started, she became an escort and she gets paid. Now where she lives, it's illegal to do it. You know what I mean? And she loves her work and she loves sex and she couldn't be happier. And let me tell you, she's not like some, you know, a 70-something year old woman that looks like she's 45. You know what I mean? She's a 70-year-old woman that looks like she's 70-year-old woman that looks like she's 70. years old. She's known, she's got really big boobs, by the way. And she's known for that. But she looks like a grandma, a full-fledged grandma. Like, that's the kink, right? Yeah, she's busty granny. Yeah. Amazing. I love it. I love this story so much. I love that she embraced her sexuality after 40 years, found it, and that she's getting valued for it. You know, because when she was 57,

going on dating sites and getting all that attention, you know, from younger guys, from guys of all ages. I think that's the thing. It's like people always ask me like, oh, are you going to age out of sex work, this and that? And I'm like, well, I hope to have sex my whole life. And I would love to keep getting money. Like anything less now feels like going a step backwards. Like there are people of all ages that love to have sex. And I think it's, you know, also such a beautiful example of all of these myths that exist. And I know everyone has different experiences, right? With like libido, with menopause, with feeling older, with feeling not desired, but I think this is just such a cool story

of at all ages, when we embrace our own desire and our own willingness to receive and have fun and sexual joy, it's there. It's available. I love it. And it can still be there later in life. Like a lot of people think you get to a certain age and you stop fucking. Now, I've had so many people on my show

in their 60s, 70s, 80s, still fucking swinging, threesome sex barns in their backyard. I mean, you name it. I've heard those stories. And I love those stories because I think like, listen, a lot of times younger people like disregard older, older people like we don't exist anymore. It's like, listen, you need to listen to the fucking older people because that's who you could learn from. Don't worry.

Like you could still be banging to you go in the grave. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to stop. And like I'm sorry, but there are like only a few pleasures in life, right? For me, it's food and sex, right? Like those are two like just very fun, great, happy things in life, right? be in because the rest of life is difficult and it's sloppy and it bumps in the road and it's problems like real life is difficult right but these are the fun things in life so why give that

any of those things up like right now i want to lose a couple pounds but i'm like i don't want to go on a zempic and turn down my food noise i'm like i love my food noise because i fucking love food it's like one of my pleasures in life and i feel like sex is the same thing that's why once i went on the pill and i had zero sex drive for like one whole month and i was like fuck this i threw them out and i went on it because I was like, I didn't feel like a normal person. And that's what happens to women in menopause, you know, or it happens to women who are repressed like her because maybe sexually they didn't know what they were doing when they're younger or their church told them they shouldn't enjoy it, you know, but it doesn't mean that you can't reinvent yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm so curious about her details about, you know, the switchover in her heart, her mind, her spirit that went from like, oh, this is bad. I won't do that I'm born again to like, actually, I could enjoy this. Actually, receiving other people's desire is great. Actually, I of being valued even more. Like, I think that's so cool. And it even said in the article how for her it's not just about sex. That's the bonus at the end, but it speaks to the greater need for connection and going on dates. And she said one client just wants to go on holidays with her.

I love that. Sometimes they don't. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. You brought that up. That was an important note I put in there. Remind everyone. Like she said sometimes that some guys don't want even sex.

They just want me to go and talk to them. And isn't that true? Oh, yeah. All the time. Or if they want sex, they usually don't want it all by itself. I mean, I do do a lot of seven minutes in heaven quickies, but that's not people's first choice. You know, that's if they're on a budget, if that's what they want and they want to prioritize, you know, penetration and coming and having that. But they still, you know, use every moment we have in the bar, every moment to emotionally and physically connect before the actual fucking.

And I think for most people, it's that emotional connection, even if it's not like, I love you forever kind of love, you know, like connection on all levels. It's the human connection that goes with it that makes the actual physical intimacy. way better. I think that that's like so hot. And I got to tell you, I had a lot of guys on my show who have used professionals every now and then. And most of the time, they're always like, it's very important for them to explain that they became friends with these women.

They like talk to them about their deepest secrets and these people revealed. And I feel like that happens because they are going there, maybe without even knowing it for more than sex. They do, a lot of them do wind up connecting. now they don't leave their wives or anything like that, but like there's something about that connection and having that that a lot of them want as well. They want the girlfriend experience. Not what I always promote, which is a quickie, no feelings attached, nothing, fuck off, just bye-bye, give me sex, see you later. You know, they want that girlfriend experience. And they wind up

becoming close and they have like a real relationship with these girls. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have real relationships with all of my clients who've come to see me more than once. And I still get emails from some people who've only seen me once because they're updating me about like their successes or how you know my help in their journey boosted their confidence and now they have a partner and they're living out their best dream and so it's like we we make real human connections yeah and anyone who misses that does not understand it you know like I would I would say even some of the places where we do this work do not understand really what our work is and so you know it's it it really is deeper human connection of course it can be always right like there are sometimes people who come in that don't

want a deeper connection. They usually don't end up being my clients because I'm trying to talk to them like a person and that has weirded them out and they oftentimes will leave, you know, because they're like, oh, I have to deal with a human. But I think most people who are looking for that don't want to feel like a piece of meat and they want to feel good about themselves too. They want to feel like there's an exchange and they want to feel like they are supporting someone's journey in life and not just taking. You know, I think a lot of casual sex is way more harmful in the long run unless both parties are really on the same page about like, wham-bam, thank you ma'am. You know, because oftentimes there's an imbalance and there's a lack of clarity about what are we really doing here. Yeah.

So I think this granny is amazing. She's my idol. It gives me a lot of hope, you know. I'm like, all right, I got decades. Yeah, I mean, I think for people that I probably should have introduced you properly because this was the perfect story for you because you do work at. in a brothel in in Nevada right Luna Robbie like that you've been on my show you've given that story you do have a podcast you talk about that as well on your podcast I want people to know that in case they're just like tuning in most of my listeners know you and love you on my show but just for people

that don't know like that you do you are you do do that work and that's something that you started up recently correct I've been doing it for four and a half years oh my god time goes by so fast I feel like it's a new year I was not public well I've only been public about it, like connecting my dots for the last year or so, maybe two years, depending on where you looked. You could figure it out, but people don't, you know. And I mean, do I still work at Sherry's Ranch? We'll find out. We'll find out. It's very up in the air at this exact moment of recording. Yeah, but wait, the thing that I love that she said too is like she just felt like,

oh, you know, just because on something if you don't mean that I shouldn't have sex and show off my body. Like, I wonder at the brothel. Like, because I feel like I know, like real man, like regular guy. the thing that women don't know is they like everything they like a lot of different things right they might like a granny a grandma that has really big tits for once it was like kind of i always bring up like arnold and his maid i'm like you know why he wanted to fuck her because she had those huge breasts right like he was staring at the wall time he needed to know what they were like i'm telling it like he's just like guys you know they're looking at like body parts sometimes you know and so they like a lot of different things more they're not as picky as women think they are so i wonder like at a brothel like do they allow for all different types and shapes and sizes because they know that about men? To a degree, yes.

I think that there still are some constraints that if I were running things would be a little bit different. Like there definitely is some discrimination in certain directions. But we absolutely have ladies who are up there in years and they're beautiful. You know, like ladies of all ages, shape, sizes and backgrounds are there. You know, they are all very pretty. I will say that, you know. Yeah, I work.

Sherry's is one of the nicest. Yeah, I mean, they know that people have all different types of tastes. And oftentimes when clients will come into the bar, they'll be like, oh, you know, I'm looking for someone a little more mature. You're so lovely. You know, and I'm like, I'm 36. Like, I'm a real 36. But, okay, you know, and I think I'm kind of the perfect age for everyone personally. But people have their different flavors and varieties.

And they love all shapes. I've gotten lots of guys who've been like, no, you're too skinny for me. I'm like, you've seen my butt. It's really big. totally I remember once I found my booty call guy Tommy I found his porn stash when they like porn was VHS you know and there was like BBW poured all in there and he was like so horrified I'm like no no I know guys I'm sure of course you're into that like dude that's like a big thing that a lot of people are into my on my Discord channel they're like oh please make a BBW channel and all the women post in there and all the guys fucking love all the pictures guys and it's a different something different for everyone that I would think they'd be smart to sort of offer all a Heinz, right? Like for sure. I mean, look at this lady.

I mean, she's just like having a blast. I think it's great. I have so many stories from everything and a lot of stories like her. And that's what I think is the good news. It's like hopeful. It's not about like, oh, you have to become an escort like her or start an only fans like somebody else. But you can go from like being completely sexless to literally coming into your own

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like saying like, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks. Like if people are bothered by it, that's their problem. And I don't think she'd think that at 30. You know what I mean? And maybe you do because you're like more evolved than the average woman. But like there is a certain point in a woman's life like over 50 that you just don't fucking care about what people think. And that's why I think a lot of people do wind up doing crazy things in the second

part of their life because they stop giving a shit what people fucking think, especially women. You grew up in a different time period, but people of women of my age and this poor woman's age, they weren't allowed to like sex. If they like sex, okay, they would not have been, they would not have gotten married. Okay, no one would have put a ring on it. That's how it was.

Your Madonna, it's the Madonna horror complex. You know what I mean? No one's taking you home. I was, I was not wifey material, nor did I want to be, okay? But I'm just saying, if I wanted to be, it would have been a fucking problem. But that's how was these poor girls that did want to be wiping materials and there's nothing wrong with that. They knew they had to keep their fucking legs crossed and not be into sex and every doctor put them on the pill so they're crying all the time. They're not horny. And they never were able to really fully enjoy sex because there was so much stigma around it. So I talked to so many women in their

50s and above that finally were able to release that shame. Like you said, I wonder how she felt mentally about it. You know what I mean? Like really sort of coming into her own and doing whatever she wants without worrying about what the church thought of her or anybody else. Yeah, and just what her process was like to let go of that, because I've interviewed plenty of people who have come from those hyper-religious backgrounds that, you know, really, really do a number on some people in many cases. Like, it's not, you can't always, some people can flip a switch and they're in a new era. Some people, it's a longer process and requires more support.

So I'm just so curious about her details. But I think she's amazing. Yeah, I'm going to try and get her on the show. Yeah. I'll send her to you. Because, you know, we can have the same guess on. Amazing. Yeah, right?

Yes. I love the long form deep dive. That's, yeah, amazing. Yeah. Okay. So now let's do this one. This one was interesting to me. Like, I get all my news from Twitter, from X. Okay. I don't know where you get your news. I don't watch the news. But I like my X feed. It tells me shit that's going down. You know what I mean? There was this whole big story about this football player. I'm hoping I say his name right. It's Matt Khalil, I think, is the way you say his name. Yeah. And he got divorced. And his girl, his ex-wife, Haley, Khalil, was going on. some podcast, okay, and talking about like how his dick was so big and talking about how that was

the reason why she divorced him. She was like, it was like not only like one Coke can, like maybe two or three, like she was just saying it was so big. It would make me cry. It hurt so much. I couldn't do it. It whatever. And listen, she said other nice things out of context. It wasn't just that, but she did out him, you know, and now he and he, this guy is remarried to somebody else. And so the big new story first was that, oh, this guy's dick is too big, right? Her story came out first because it was all over TMZ every one picked it up because she went on a microphone and said this shit, you know, and got a lot of press because of it.

And then he came out and fucking sued her and is suing her for putting his private information out saying like, hey, you know, my family has gotten people coming to them. Think about it, right? My wife who I'm married to now, people are sending her all kinds of crazy things. And she's like horrified saying like, I can't believe he did that. I did. I said tons of nice things and stuff. But, you know, what really struck me about this new story?

besides the details that me and you will talk about. And I think you'll probably agree with me because you, me and you are typically on the same page was that the reaction to this story was all like on her side. It was kind of like, who the fuck cares that she said your dick is too big? Like, that's a great thing. Like what did she say? Like, you know what I mean? It was kind of like a big joke and stuff. Like no one kind of took it seriously that this is his private fucking business and it shouldn't have been shared at all. You know what I mean? Imagine if a man did that about a woman's pussy how people would go fucking mental it would be so bad you know that I don't think that uh so I understand why he did it I was like on his like I'm not a litigious person so

whatever but like I just really felt for him and felt like it was not right to use your microphone to give out that kind of private information on somebody's body's parts that nobody should know sorry it shouldn't be anyone's fucking business uh because like I said it if it was done to a woman and someone's like, oh, my wife's pussy was too tight or it was too loose. You know what I mean? I couldn't fuck her and my dick got hard or I lost it. You know, people would go mental.

Yeah, I mean, people do. And also I think this is a great example about why we need better norms around what we do and don't share privately, right? Like if that couple is having to litigate, you know, and obviously they've broken up, no wonder. Clearly their communication sucks. Clearly the respect there, they're not on the same page. And that's why before every show, when I bring people on, if they're public, I say,

hey, make sure that whatever you share is either okay with your partners and say that out loud or make it so that we can't tell who it is. And so the fact that it didn't occur to her. And also, I think there is some interesting inverted norm there about, you know, we're so used to being obsessed with dick size. Exactly. That's what I think is good. Yeah. in size, which I think is crazy, right?

Like, I want dicks of all sizes. I want the tiniest ones. I'm still waiting for more micro penises. And I have had partners who've had, you know, Coke can, not two Coke cans. And I'm like, does she mean two Coke cans? Why? Does she mean two Coke cans long? I think, okay.

Well, you know, and regardless, I think that the like any hyperbalizing of, especially at the end of a relationship and saying, oh, it made me cry. this and that. It's like, well, woman, hopefully you're doing stuff consensually with your partner. Hopefully, also there are many ways to have sex. If your bodies don't fit together, like, this is why I want to have more sex with small dick people, because usually they are more, like, from what I've read, again, I have not had enough experience with micropenuses to really gather this data properly, in my opinion, but, you know, there's a chance for people to be kinkier, more creative about sex and kind of expand it beyond the P&V conversation. I also think from his perspective, like, yes, that's private information.

but if he cares so much, then how come they didn't have a conversation about like, hey, babe, keep that quiet, even though we're split up. Well, because they were divorced. I mean, he didn't know she was going to. You think she called him up and said, hey, ex-husband, I'm going to go on a podcast

and talk about your dick was too big and tell our reasons or private reasons for why we got a divorce. He can't talk about it. That's ridiculous. I'm just saying culturally, that's where I'm like, well, maybe he could take a page out of Busty Granny's book and just be like,

fuck it, I don't care. You know, because it's also. His reaction, our reactions to things, teach other people how to think about it. So the more we care, then the more they get harassed and this and that. And I, you know, I personally am like, I get it. People have different needs around privacy that I, you know, I'm considered an overshare by most people's standards, right? That's what's right for me. I don't see why I need to hide stuff.

Everyone says like, oh, they'll have power over you, this, that. I have not found that to be true in my eight years of sharing very publicly, right? So, this isn't about sharing. This is about sharing someone else's business. By the way, I think anybody online, anyone that- They need to have that conversation. They were broken up already. They were broken up.

Right, but in their marriage. No, but you don't understand. Obviously, they did. She went to doctors. It was like a problem that they had. Of course they taught. She didn't fuck him once and say, I'm divorcing you. It was a whole thing that, of course they talked about.

That's not the case. The cases he had already been married to somebody else. He had moved on. It's just private information. I think that influencers that really put everything out there about themselves are the ones that do well. People do want you to be vulnerable and overshared and all that. I think that's great. I would never tell someone to do that.

But it's the oversharing about somebody else's stuff and stuff that can be harmful. Just because a lot of guys think it's great to have a big dick, doesn't mean that he wants that information out there. His family, you think his mother wanted the fucking D. You know how crazy the people are out there on DMs. I get trolled all the time. Imagine this fucking, you know, mega star football guy. What happened to him and his wife and his parents? And everyone thinks it's fucking funny.

But I don't. I think it was like a very wrong move. Like I said, I'm not litigious. Do I think, you know, there needs to be a lawsuit, whatever. But like, I understand what I'm saying is like I understand him being horrified and that not being, that should not have been shared. Sorry. And I don't care that people think it's a compliment.

It's not information that should be made public. well and it's just so clear that they are so far apart you know whether they're broken up or not like they're still right but just because people are divorced it doesn't mean that they don't have kids they don't have kids though they're just divorced nothing has to do with this is not to do with this is not to do with their communication and they're separated this is about her i think it's a larger conversation about how people communicate around sex in general and the fact that the media seized upon this one sound bite in this whole hour and a half conversation and didn't highlight all of these other things I think speaks to that, right? You know, and obviously it sounds like maybe she's being hyperbolic. I don't know. I don't know their details. And who knows the texture of their actual connection, right? We don't have enough background on this.

And obviously the fact that he's getting harassed is unquestionably not okay, right? But I think it speaks to the larger issue that we as a culture have. And that's why we need more examples of deep, thoughtful conversation around this. So it's like, yeah, I think she messed up by not respecting his privacy. I think that clearly they didn't have great communication. maybe they'd be in a different place relationally. And also, I think it's not.

That's what divorce. That's why they got divorced. She said many nice things. That's what the whole thing is. Listen, she didn't go in there and say, but it doesn't sound like that's the only reason. No,

no, I read the whole article. And I actually read the transcript of her actual conversation with the other people. Oh, I didn't read that. She said, it doesn't matter. They explained that in context she talked about so many great parts of their relationship and everything.

So they had a great relationship, but they physically could not be intimate. She could, handle it, which is okay. And I get that. And, you know, it wasn't the right fit. I fucked a guy. And well, I actually couldn't even fuck him. He had a dick the size of like a baby. I said a baby's arm. It was much way bigger because I've had a baby. Babies arms are that big. But like it was like, yeah, I was like, oh my God, it's a baby's arm. I was like, what the fuck you want me to do with that? And he was like, it's not even that hard. And by the way, I knew for a fact that this guy

had been married for many years to a very famous supermodel. Like in the night. supermodel like one of the top ones like this is who he was fucking married to and I so I knew that that bitch was taking this baby arm all the time and I just don't and that's my private information like I knew because I knew that that but like nowadays when you have like microphones and you're out on the airways and you're putting it out into everyone's business I feel like that should be a different story and I just felt like it was a to me the biggest points of this thing was that I feel like there's a double standard sometimes when it comes from like what women could do to men versus what men could do to women.

I also felt like it was a thing where... I don't think she's getting away with anything. Like, I think she's being held accountable in a way that's appropriate. Yeah, by him. Because she did. Right, but most people were on her side. That's what I'm trying to say. They were kind of like, why would he care?

Like, blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? Like, what's his problem. That's what, that's my whole point is, was the reaction was all, and all the jokes made about him, you know, and everything about, because it's kind of like, is she insulting him as Dick is too big? It's just, it's not information that should be out there. I just don't think.

is a dick, could a dick be too big for somebody? Yeah, for sure. Like that guy with the baby arm, I didn't fuck him. I couldn't, you know? But, I mean, but somebody else can, but I just don't think it should have been set out regardless of what she did. She obviously didn't realize the backlash and everything. I don't, like I said, but I think that what was interesting, like to me was that this guy was made to look like a joke and everyone kind of was like, why would you be mad if someone said, I had a big dick, because it's kind of like some people see it as a compliment, you know? And, but it was not really. I didn't think so at all.

My reaction was the people's reaction. It was to me horrifying. I think it's horrifying also. It's such a limiting view of sex. Like to say we broke up because he can't penetrate me. Like there's so much more of sex than penis and vagina sex. Like there's so much more. If you want to have babies.

Obviously. I mean if you want to have babies, you got to. There are still other ways to get female into. Any woman that wants, I'm sorry, any woman that wants to be married to a man long term, you need to be able to have penis to vagina sex, okay? And maybe if you have an issue and you can't, you could be okay. I mean, that's a really heteronormative way of looking at. Like, queer people have all kinds of, I know. But they are heterode too.

That's all, that's all. Which is okay. But I'm just saying there are plenty of straight people that could learn from queer people sex because I think that saying your body has to be this kind of way in order for two people. Like, their connection clearly didn't last. And I doubt, even if what they're saying hyperbolicly on a podcast, I doubt it only had to do with fucking. If everything else was perfect, I bet they would have found a way to stay together, even if his dick could not fit inside of her. And I think that's the weapon. Okay, listen, everyone, when it comes to sex toys, word of mouth, to me is everything.

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I doubt, even if what they're saying hyperbally on a podcast, I doubt it only had to do with fucking. If everything else was perfect, I bet they would have found a way to stay together, even if his dick could not fit inside of her. And I think that's the weaponizing. I mean, there are many people that need something different, but I know plenty of people, but I know plenty of people who have alternative styles of sex. And I know that penis in vagina sex and the emphasis on that in our culture is a reason that a lot of

people are really unhappy in their sex lives. I know this because then when I am working with people... Men want to put their penis inside a girl's vagina. Sorry, that's what men want to do. I mean, I'm just saying there are many other ways to penetrate things. And I think to focus on that. You got to put your... You got it most...

I'm sorry, I get who you're talking about, but I'm talking about the norm. Most people, including me, wants penis and vagina sex. I don't think it's harmful. I love to be penetrated, but there's so many other ways. Yes, but the idea that, oh, we can't be together because our bodies don't fit together, you're not finding ways. I mean, everyone can have their different needs, but I'm just saying that's the common narrative.

And I think it's a loss because it's not the main point of connection for most people. And the number of married people who don't even have sex, I'm not, Kathy, you know sex is the most important thing in life. And I think that limiting the definition of sex to penis in vagina, especially in this conversation, look at how it's harmed these people. No, no, no. This isn't a, but what you're not, you're taking, you're making bigger sweeping statements that I don't really want to get into because it had a row norm and all these, I can't get into that. I mean, what I'm trying to say is that in this situation, they could not have it.

She could not. That's a done deal. There's no conversations or anything that could have been changed for this. This is what would have been if they stayed together. His dick could not go in her vagina. Sorry. That should, that is most likely a deal breaker for a relationship. As sad as it is.

That's a big thing. You want to have kids and you know you want to keep your husband happy. A guy likes to go inside a warm pussy, okay? A heteroke guy. That's what he wants. That is a problem. And a story. I think it's just not the full story.

There are many people that have tight pussies. There are many people who have vaginismus and can't fuck with a regular size cock and they find other ways to have sex. Also, that can change over time. There are many women that start out not being able to get fisted, but then can. You can do stretching. You can do muscle. you can do relaxation.

Like there are ways to make all sorts of bodies fit together if the couple wants to stay together. Their connection clearly was not for that. Yeah, I don't believe that she spoke about it was not. It's clear that you don't believe it. I think it's a little close by it. You can think it's closed by it. I do believe in real life if a couple is together and there's this huge elephant in the room and it doesn't work in that way, something that is a very big part of a relationship.

I do believe that that could take a very good relationship. and ruin it. That's what I believe in. You won't change my mind no matter what you say. I mean, I would just be interested to hear more details that this. Listen to her podcast episode that she has. Yeah. But like all the in-depth details about what they tried, their emotional connection. Did they do any tantric sex? Like, you know, what are the other things that they explored? How kinky were they? There are so many ways to play with bodies that are pleasurable and connected. She said during our live stream, we talked about so much more than what's being highlighted. The love in our marriage, the growth we experience, the depth of our connection. So, They had all these good things, but what probably broke them up was the fact that they couldn't fuck. That's a big thing. There probably were a bunch of other factors, I bet.

But we don't know. Okay. I can't wait. I love when I have argued. I love when we have two different views on my party. Oh, no. We're debating. The e-on-line article doesn't say all the details.

No, that's the article I just read. I read that from the article that I gave you what I just read about the love and the connection. No, but I'm saying it doesn't give the details about their sex life, which is what I'm curious about. What did they try? How long did they try? What were the other factors in the breakup? Like there's just so much and I think that there's so, I think that most people who I speak with feel some sort of relief when they figure out that it's not all about the performance of P&V sex. I know it's really important for a lot of people.

I'm just saying there's so much more to sex than that. I'm just going to read you a line in the article, okay, just because we're just talking about what we read. According to Matt's filing, she, it filing, okay, she claimed that sexual intercourse with the plaintiff would leave, leave her in tears and implied that the size of the plaintiff's genitalia, was a primary factor for the party's divorce. She's saying it, not me. And if my friend came to me and told me that I would understand her, I'm not saying either is wrong for that, but it shouldn't be out in public.

I'm not debating that. I'm not debating that. I'm talking about a larger cultural point, and I'm saying that probably on this podcast, even with that recap, there are probably a lot of things we don't know. Okay, but I think what we do know is enough for what happened to happen. I don't think there needs to be other hidden things.

I don't understand how you don't understand the woman. because of this kind of problem. That's not what I'm talking about. But you are. You're assuming all these other things that don't have anything to do with that. You're assuming that they don't have conversations that they had so many other problems that they didn't get divorces for this when he said that they did. I'm not assuming anything.

I'm just saying I know for a fact that there's a bunch of stuff that this article doesn't cover. That's all I'm saying. Okay. And I'm saying that like if two people really want to stay together, they can find ways to sexually connect that are, you know, creative. Right. And my point is. is that I think if you can't ever have penis and vagina sex and you both want to, obviously they both wanted to.

They're not interested in anything else. Then that could very much be a deal breaker in a marriage. I totally understand. What I don't understand is talking about it and she probably didn't realize that seeing that was so bad. I don't blame her, but to me what I was most interested in and my point of this was how people were so on her side and making fun of him even more. And it just became a bigger thing because when you go on a podcast, she's huge. She's a huge star as well. You know, it went out to millions of people.

And his, like, imagine his poor family getting DMs and stuff. That was my whole point of it. Let's go to the next. I'm definitely not defending that. Let's go to the next. I don't know what you're defending, but I just disagree with you. And I love a good debate. I love a good debate.

And you know what there's going to be people? I don't know what you just said. We had a whole disagreement. I don't know how you don't see it. You disagree that people can have creative sex? How do you disagree with that? I gave you my whole argument. I'm not going to get into it again.

And people please go say your, people are going to, listen, people are going to tell me I'm wrong and they're going to say you're wrong. I can't wait to hear people weigh in. I think you're trying to have a fight and I'm not having a fight. I strongly disagree with what you say and that and I love having a debate with you. And I'm telling you straight to your face that I strongly disagree with a lot of what you said. I think and you know what you strong. No, but you also, no, I just I don't believe in them. I listened. I heard them loud of clear. you also strongly disagreed with what I said. So we're both on the same page. We just think different things. I continue to agree with you, Kathy.

I think we both agreed about privacy. I think we both agreed about how if two people agree P&V sex is important and not working. I can't talk about. I don't want to get boring like on here and annoyed people. We already had the conversation. You could listen to it back. Like everything that happened already happened. We don't have to talk about what just happened.

It happened. People could take their own stance and it'll be very, I love to hear people's things. I everyone is different everyone has their own ideas and stuff people will be like no Catherine was right some people will see it we don't need to rehash it it already I just don't like being labeled to disagree or what I'm actually agreeing with you that's all I'm saying you did disagree with me but you could say you did it I'm just expanding the conversation and you won't listen to me no I listen to every word you said I just

disagree with it and you didn't like that okay let's talk about heated rivalry because this is all about gay sex which I love okay it's all about like gay men right and hockey did you watch it by the way I haven't watched it, but one of my good friends is working on it. And I'm so excited for them. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah.

So, yeah. Literally, the whole article was about how like, and for women, though, this is women, how women were going on to Porn Hub, okay, and doing, like, hockey-related gay sex searches. I mean, the searches and the graph were so fucking hilarious for me because it showed how it went from, like, being under 100% to being, like, hockey gay was like over 2,100. 20%. You know what my favorite one was hockey locker? I'm like some poor star should name himself hockey locker because people are googling hockey balls. Oh hockey balls. I'm like what hockey balls? Not even a puck. Like are we seeing like naked balls on the ice ring? Like what is hockey balls?

I love. I love this guy. And you know what I love about the guy who did the show like he talked about how he on purpose wanted this the sex in this show to be extremely. extremely explicit. And the people that he was working for that he sold it to is like, oh, I mean, this is in the article, right? I'm talking about it. They were like, oh, you know, maybe you should wait to pull out of the sacks. Like, when it comes out, maybe you shouldn't be so explicit.

He was like, listen, like, these books were written. They were porn, right? Like, this was taken from a book called He DeRivalry, the show. So he's like, I'm going to give them exactly what it is. He was like, I'm going to show a blowjob. And he's like, I want it as graphic as it is. Like, he was not, like, cowing down to anybody, which I fucking. love because in the sex business like we are talking about sex like everyone's so crazy about it.

I love that he stood firm and was like no way I want to bear it all and show it all. And the audience mainstream women went fucking nuts for it. What does that say to society? I think it's so super interesting. Oh, I think it says that every mainstream thing should have ancillary porn related content that's connected. That's my dream is to take all the emotional storylines all the way. I do want to watch it to see how far they actually go,

but it sounds like not far enough if people are looking for porn on it. Well, they want more. That's the whole thing. If you watch it once, don't you want more and more and more? No, I think he went really hardcore. He said that he really was like pushed it and made a very graphic. TV hardcore. Yeah, but they show.

They show stuff on TV. Do you watch Netflix ever? I love it. I love it. I love that they do that. Yeah, they really do. And what was crazy was like women were going nuts for it. And I always find.

that on my show because I'm always promoting guy and guy sex. I know so many guys are like blowing guys behind, you know, in parking lots and all this stuff. And I'm always like, oh, I'm here to say that like guys like guys as much as girls like girls, right? Like in my lifetime, girl on girl sex became popular. I was raised in a time where it actually had just as much stigma as guy and guy sex, right? But in my lifetime, it changed. And it became like the thing. And the minute it became cool and hip and for hot girls, every girl was like, I have a girl crash. And every girl was like, eating pussy. But that, that happened in my lifetime. There was a time where it was just as taboo as guy on guy action, but it hasn't happened for guys yet. And I'm hoping like this helps it,

you know, because so many guys are into guy on guy sex, right? But they can't admit it. They can't cop to it. A lot of women don't even know that they enjoy it until they actually see it in their life. And I think that this made a lot of women realize that they, just like men like to Google, lesbian porn and probably girls do too, women like, women like, gay porn. Oh yeah. I mean, I've always been attracted to the idea of guys together. I want to watch everything. I think things going in holes is always interesting. And I think what this also speaks to is women really respond to emotional storylines that it's like the foreplay. Like they have the lead up, all of the storylines, all the emotions, all of the, you know, the slutty book parts, the written

romance parts that then lead up to the sex scene. That turns them on. They want to see everything. And it makes so much sense. I've, yeah, and I think there's also for me, I don't know, tell me what you think, but I've always had tons of curiosity. Like I remember early on when trying to wrap my brain around like, well, how does gay sex work? Like back when I knew nothing, right? Pre-sex stories, pre-every everything. And I was just like, I just want to watch it and see it.

And I would get really aroused thinking about it. And so I think that it really speaks to the fact that, you know, while people, yes, they want porn, they want to get straight to the point. It's like, clearly the emotional lead-up is really turning them on. Especially women, right? Like that's, I mean, that's what, I mean, a lot of women. The search results show that. Yeah, same with, same with erotica.

Like, the way women get turned on a lot of times through reading, like, sexy stories and romance stories, romance books, right? And light erotica, it's like, it makes them horny. This is, I mean, supposedly it was, like, extremely steamy and the chemistry with the guys, like, they're all, like, obsessed. And I'm sure guys are obsessed, too. It's funny that it's specific to hockey, you know what I mean? Because, like, I don't just a.

assume that they could just go now watch any kind of gay sex, but they're so obsessed with the hockey theme, which I think is like kind of funny, right? Yeah, well, I think it's the story that, you know, that is the container for the erotica. And so when they're like flying high off of that, that makes so much sense, right? Right, it's real life. It could be real life. Yeah. And hockey players, by the way, are so far.

Always hot. We all know that, right? Are they always fun? I don't know. Yeah. I have not deeply studied hockey players. Yes. us. They're fucking hot. You didn't grow up in my day. Like there was a lot of hockey players that were

like, you know, the hot guy and like the cover of GQ. You know what I mean? Like there were some hockey players that were just gorgeous guys. To me kind of dumb. I don't know. I should probably edit that out. But like I just, you know, but they're so, they're like hot guys. They typically are hot. But I would really like, you know, the guy was on, uh, I know the guy who has a podcast who had hit the guy on who created heated rivalry. It's his friend. And I would love to get the guy who made this on because I think it's great that he was able to get something like this up and out there into the mainstream. Because I've been preaching guy and guy action for a long time. And this is gay sex, right?

But like I even just feel like even guys that just like to suck a dick every now and that or, you know, I think it should be, I think there shouldn't be as much of a stigma surrounding it anymore. I don't get it. It's not fair. I mean, I think in lots of circles, the stigma is melting. And for a lot of other people where it's not, they are feeling more freedom to do things in secret, you know, or at least to explore because the tools, the technology is there to make that happen. And I think, you know, I think everyone's a little less straight than the cultural narrative reflects. And I just, I just love that the creator was able to read these books. And then he did so much, you know, he adapted the whole first season himself.

Like he, and so he stayed true to it. And I think it's also cool and shows what. an auteur vision can do, right? He stayed true to the emotional storyline and to the fucking. And I love that. Oh, yeah. He literally his whole quote, which I loved it. I wrote it down.

Where is it? Because it was like one of the points I wanted to make. He said like, you know, he's like, glad I, this was about putting in so much sex. He said he was glad that he followed his own advice instead of the notes that he was he said he would have made a show that would have not pleased people because that core fan base. When they tried to tell him like, why don't you just, you know, wait until the sex scenes for season two.

And he was like, I was like, what the. fuck are you talking about. He said, these books are poor. You think the audience is here despite that. They're here for this. That's what I want. And that's what the audience wanted also. Yeah. The funny thing is, there was something on X that Billy from Manhor podcast tweeted last night about some, I don't know, some weird, you know, conservative website talking about how they're looking for age verification across the states, you know, and how some states have done it. And the guy was saying like, oh, we're doing this to protect the kids and, you know, age verification, everything. And he was like, oh, and they did it on porn hub in many states

and it's already working because the company is like losing money. So I was like wait, wait, I don't get it. Like, are you here to help the children by making it less easy for them to get it? Or do you want to like just delete porn totally? Because like, why would you be happy that the porn

business is losing money? Like, you know what I mean? Like both can exist at the same time. I was like, maybe this is I don't think it's what you're talking about because why are you happy that a company is losing money. It's working. Working is making it more less accessible to children. Working is not like bankrupting a porn company so there's no porn available. You know what I mean? I don't get it. Right. And those laws are simply going to push

things into the darker places on the internet. Like it doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't fix anything. But they're saying it's just making it, you know, it's kind of like legalization efforts around anything, right? So when it's illegal, it gets less safe. And so that's what's happening. And they're using these talking points about children to emotionally sway people. And it also makes it more fun, right? Like to me, the more taboo or underground something goes, the more appealing you make it for people and the more it is acted out in a negative dark way when it shouldn't be.

You know, I was very slutty growing up because I had a lot of trauma put on me. My father was a reverend. Like, you know what I mean? Because it was like fucking naughty. I was doing what I wasn't supposed to do. And that was like all acting out. Whereas like people would say to me when I first had my son like, what are you going to do your son?

Like you have a show about sex I'm like the only thing I'm going to do about it to my son Is make him normal Do you know what I mean? Because I don't I mean listen I don't let my son listen to my show But I don't think sex is a big deal I'm not don't make it like oh my God You know like don't talk about sex

It's like a bad word All I would do is make my son a freak You know in this way because I'm open minded about it And I don't make it a taboo thing My son's just going to be normal Because what you resist persists You can't make people not horny And want to see porn and all this stuff

Yeah and you know I wish we had porn that was just a little bit more educational built into every single lesson and that's why I love heated rivalry that actually has like the emotions attached to it because that's what I'm always trying to do right is add emotional understanding to the sexual act like that's what I love to

And that's what women love right? I mean it's more women they say like porn is basically made for men you know just with like the come shots and the bad acting and all that kind of stuff you know and it's great that women now have these kinds of outlets where they could get horny too because the same things that turn on men a lot of times aren't the same things

turn on women. Yeah. And I do think that if we had porn that was crafted with teaching people in mind, like actually showing them how to do sex with what's on screen, people would have better sex because people don't realize that they are learning by example. Whether they know it or not, like guys watch porn and then, you know, there are lots of, lots of stories from me and my lady friends, the brothel of like guys coming in and they'd want to try a certain move or do a certain thing. And it's like, well, that's like a fancy sex move that doesn't necessarily feel good, maybe looks cool, maybe turns you on visually, but it's not actually how to connect with a partner or for both of your bodies to feel good.

And so that's where I'm like, I want something that shows the whole thing, you know, the emotional parts, the real version, and the sex movie version. That's maybe what I'm going to embark upon next. We'll see. If I can't go back to the brothel, then I might just go into my educational porn career. We'll see. Yeah, I love that. I do think that people are wired into things at a very young age, regardless of whatever it is. And I had, well, and with this, but this was like a tragic story.

I mean, for me, it was a guy who called in for my Fetish Friday episode. And this was a guy that somehow found like, I think it was like farting porn. It was something like really off the wall. You know what I mean? And he found it at a time where his dick would just get, you know, a Woody for anything, right? So we saw it, got horny for it. And then like needed it more and more and more, right? Because he kept watching it because it made him feel good.

You know what I mean? As a young time. And he totally got wired into it. this word now it's a fetish like he cannot get off unless a woman is doing that while he you know what I mean and it's such a trap to me that's so tragic because as a woman like I wouldn't I would not be able to accommodate that you know what I mean it's so specific and out of the norm that it could really cock block his life of finding women and revealing this to them and it's all because of what he found by accident he didn't go looking for it no one's born with that desire do you know

like it just fucking showed up and there it is and you're horny and the wind blows at a little kids age and then he's all of a sudden he's wired into this and he can't get off without it and I'm like that to me is tragic yeah I mean I still have so much research to do around fetishes and I definitely think that if the person is unhappy with how they're wired that is tragic you know and also if they like it then I always stay hopeful that they can find someone to play with it didn't think it was tragic I think it's tragic because I do believe like it gets in the way that of having true partner, you know, there's a lot of ramifications for that kind of extreme thing. And that's the kind of stuff that is out there. And, you know, and it's not, and it's not something that the majority of people are going to like and you may have a problem getting all those other things in your regular vanilla life because of that. And, you know, and it's exhausting to keep a fetish secret. You know, there's plenty of fetishes out there. I have a fetish Friday episode. So I talk to people all the time. And so to have that kind of a thing and find somebody that's into it, a woman that would engage is, is, difficult. I mean, it's findable, of course, but to me, I believe that becomes, that makes

someone's life hard, that kind of a thing, that extreme thing, you know, not other fetishes, but like it can make a guy's life harder. And it wasn't his fault. Do you know what I mean? He was wired into it. It was because it was just readily available right on his screen. So that's where it can be a problem. I'm not like, oh, porn should be everywhere who cares, you know, but I don't think it should be deleted from, you know, the planet either. Yeah. At all. So I don't know how we got there.

We were talking about heated rivalry. Yeah. But we had a little rivalry on this. I always think it's fun to talk to you. We always typically agree on everything. I love our little debate. I don't identify other rival, Kathy. We're not a rival.

We had a rivalry. Listen, I am like so into debating that like I can have a debate and like that. And this is why I sometimes do very well with guy friends because we could be like debate and then we can even be like, fuck you. Just shut the. fuck I you know and then two seconds later like what do you want to eat like where are we going for late and it doesn't mean anything to me I like I could have a debate in my sleep and I find it fun and I don't personalize anything and I like to disagree with people and I like people who disagree back and I don't

you know I don't think any other way than it's just a moment that we had which I always think I find interesting because not everybody has the same brain and not everybody thinks you know so there's going to be a whole audience out there listening to both different sides and people are going to listen to us and hear different things, which to me is always like what I like even further than my episodes is the conversations that happen afterwards. So I love a good debate on a show. I mean, for me, my brain have a hard time understanding sides. I think that we are talking about overlapping agreements and I have additional points and maybe you disagree with those additional points, but like I don't, like part of what is hard about this world for me and especially a lot of the

framings and sex and relationship talks is I don't see things as sides or power struggles. I see them as conversations that are unfolding. And if we are in a disagreement, it's usually because we have not understood each other all the way. You know, we can have differing opinions without disagreeing in some cases, right? So, you know, I don't know. I'm still figuring out. That's probably why I'm single. I don't get this world.

You're not single by choice. I am. I am. Single by choice. You know I am. Yeah, be honest about it. That has nothing to do with that. you love your life you're independent as fuck okay

I do I mean I'm open I'm open to the right thing and I just haven't looked for it and I don't you know yeah listen I told listen to my listeners I told Luna I want to do a dating show for her and get her guy because I really think like right now you know if she found a really hot nice guy that or woman or woman someone she would be so down for a relationship I think like that's what would be really great for you right now and I told her I wanted her to come on my show and do a whole like dating thing where I could find her date with my audience. So if anyone's interested in her, she's beautiful.

She's open. No, no, no, we're not starting that yet. You know, you can email me. I'm still in the professional part of my career. I'm not sure how a relationship fits into that. But I guess if I get officially fired from the brothel and can't go back, I got to figure out what to do because I will need access to regular sex. Yeah, so you can have to be a guy that's into her banging other people.

And there's plenty of guys like that listening to my show. she can make your hot wifing fantasies come true in the most safest of ways I don't think the swinger communities are up to my health and safety standards based on what I've heard from people like they sound willy-nilly and I really really like the safety of the professional spheres

so I'm like my swingers are more safe than anyone I know they use condoms and they're so much more intentional about sex than the vanilla world they're never drunk they're always being tested they're never hot on anything. I would really need someone, like I would need a big huge sex nerd who is, you know,

turned on by the widths and breadth of my desires, who would love to schedule things and I'd need it to be with a lot of nerdy sex fiends. But also I would love for most of that to be on camera. I have my really long bucket list. I'd like to document it ideally. But I want it to be with people who like really, really want to fuck me for real, is not a performance. So that's, that's what I'm in in the process of figuring out how to approach next. And I don't know if it's a relationship. I don't know if it's a professional relationship. I always like to mix work and play too.

So I'm like, someone's got to understand my work kink. They got to turn that on. They got to want to spoil me. They got to be. So it also has to cut through all of this nonsense that you're saying right now because my head is spinning and not care. And just cut through it all because you're always going around in circles. Maybe this and maybe that and I don't know.

And someone has to just be like, let's just fuck. No, I'm so nerdy. That thing would get so bored. Okay, then someone needs to go around and around. Okay, then they need to go around and around with you or to help you kind of clear the thing because I need someone who's really kinky and really creative and, you know, I can, like vanilla sex is fun when it's in the container of sex work.

Like that's the kink that makes it really exciting for me because it's exploring a new person, all of us putting it on camera. I could see that. But just like I also have, I have big fear. because so many people, I know they're exceptions, and I know that you and I have interviewed a lot of people like this, but like, I don't want to be in a long-term relationship where the sex stops. That's the whole, like, that would defeat the whole purpose of being in a relationship to me.

If, like, you get all comfy and cozy and the polarity goes away. And, you know, so I need, I need like sacred partnership, someone who's into Tantra, someone who wants to study all the sexual weird things with me and just go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, in all the ways. There's plenty of those people out there. There's someone for everybody. You're slightly an alien, so you need some. in this a little bit of an alien and definitely on

your same level. Or an alien wrangler. I just so fucking smart. Like I know I have a high IQ because my friend made me paid for IQ test and test me plus I was thrown out of three schools so I had to do my IQ but I think you're higher than me, three high schools I was thrown out of I feel so dumb most of the time. I'm like, you're like a little too smart. That's the problem. Yes. I think that's Polly people.

I need somebody to turn my brain off. No, that's Polly people and I also think people that are into BDSS. are a little bit more intelligent to it. You know what I mean? And so, and I think it makes sense. I just think that you're like, you might be genius level, smart. And so, and therefore you would need a guy that is operating on that same wave like.

Or women. Sorry. And strap a dick and, I mean, but I also don't want to limit myself. Yeah, or a couple. We'll see.

We'll see. Or all of it. You know, but yes, I mean, someone who is committed to building a life would be cool, especially if we share the dream of creating the super bruffel of my. Okay,

but can I just say this to you? Like you just spent like the past seven minutes or ten minutes talking about like what you want, what you're looking for. What if there is somebody listening right now that is like, fuck yeah. Like I want to date Luna. Like, you know, can't we just put a call out for that person to email me and I could send them your way? I would create an application that is so extra. It would be so ridiculously extra. And also like I need someone who would want to go on sex store because here's the thing.

My last several attempts at dating, these people would not. even have the conversations that I have on sex stories in private. So I need someone who wants to go on sex stories for the mission, not just to hit on me, because I get a lot of that too, right? Like, I get people that are like, oh, let me show you. I mean, I'm just saying that you are doing the dating call right now while we're talking. You keep talking about what you're looking for and stuff. So maybe there is somebody that's listening that fits right into all of this shit that you're looking for. Okay. So here's what I told my mom. And she was like, sweetie, you've got to be realistic. I was like, well, I want someone who, I mean, it'd be really nice if they brought me in coffee, bed and coffee, coffee and coffee in bed every day.

And they got to give me lots of space. Maybe they would meditate with me if we move our bodies together. And we have to, that's my mom. I was like, I was like, I just need them to eat healthy like me. I need them to be attractive like me, you know, visual attractive just is not the most important. But I need them to take really good care of their body. I need them to be obsessed with sex to have passions of their own. Okay, okay.

They need Tylenol. They need Tylenol too because you're getting. There's me a fucking headache. That's the thing. When I say what I actually want, people go, oh, no. It's too much. It's too much. But then they also turn around and say, yeah.

But let me just tell you something, though. I'm going to cut you off and we have to cut this off because we're ready at an hour. I'm going to just tell you that I have had on people that are, to me, just as not like confusing sounding as you are. You are a breed of character out there. I think it's people that are just highly intelligent and need all this, you know, because your brain is just wired that way. Like so, and there are, you're a breed and they exist.

I know men like you, they have called into my show. And so it's not like you're making everybody get a headache like me. There's a guy out there that is like, ah, is like fucking, you're singing his song to him, okay? And so if that guy is listening, email me, okay? I don't care what she fucking says. Email me. I'll send her along. Go give out all your stats where they can see you because she's fucking beautiful, right?

And she's got a hot body and she loves sex. Okay, give them all your information so they could check out your podcast, check out your website, all that good stuff. You can get to know my personality and all my thoughts about sex stories. That's sex stories podcast.com. You can listen wherever you get your podcast. You can find me on Luna Robbie.com and that links to OnlyFans where you can see all of me and do a masturbation, meditation, sensation, exploration with me and, you know,

all the other things. I love talking about sex and I'm infinitely curious. I will put a link. What do you want me to put a link in the description, like of your website or the podcast? What do you prefer? Why don't you do the podcast? Because you want podcast listeners. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, the podcast is my heart and soul. Okay, so I'm going to link right to your podcast. Because they can hear more of you. You actually do exactly what I do on your show. You talk to people for a really long time. You're as inquisitive and curious as I am. That's why we get along so well. You know, you talk to people about their sex stories.

Your show is called, you know, sex stories. So there go. Yeah, and you also talk about your bra. You know, you do a brothel thing. And so they'll learn more about you. Had a brothel. And they'll learn about you. more as well as hear more sex stories over on your show. So I will put a link to your podcast,

okay? Yes. Okay, thanks, Luna. Thanks so much for calling in. This was fun, as always, as usual. Thank you, Kathy. I always love talking to you. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book. The book is called Shickly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cook queen story. There's a cook queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gangbang girl story. There's like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person. I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show. You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third. There's an e-book available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the e-book. It's available. If you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay, there's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks. Okay, it's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with each other. That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures and there's tons of channels and we have contests over there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buy you. my book at any time access to my discord it is private this is the only way you could get in is through

me giving you the link and that's why I think my discord is so great because I have vetted people it's not like it's just open to the public so everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show and people that listen to my show are fucking great so my discord is fucking great my book is great you're going to love it if you buy it all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it and I will give you free access to my discord send it to strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com you could find my book in the link in the description Or just Google it, Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. You can find it anywhere.

You buy books. Send me the picture and I'll give you access to my Discord email, strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Anyway, thanks so much for listening. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it.

The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories.

And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format. Papers. back format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot

of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com and I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.