Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1381 - Veronica & Holt Got Turned on to Pantyhose by the Pantyhose King

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Veronica and Holt got turned on to pantyhose by Pantyhose King and they all called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how Pantyhose King met Holt and Veronica and what happened the first time they met up including how he taught Holt to use a vibrator while wearing hose and how Holt felt about it, what he gets out of helping them as a couple get into hose, how both Holt and Veronica are both poly and how that’s set up between them, how and why Veronica got into hose and encasement and why it appealed to her, how that led to her creating a FetLife and posting pics of herself in hose, when rope bondage came into play and what Holt enjoys about it, Holts previous experiences with a guy and how he rolls now, the threesomes they enjoy, how Veronica aka Nyloness is now very into wearing hose and how frequently she wears them plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ **To see anonymous a pics of JACK plus see pics my other female guests + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER and or HOSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier it's only $8 a month for Hosers and $10 a month for crossdressers (you get also get Hoser episodes too!) and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠ To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and send me a screenshot of your receipt of purchase, I will also give you complimentary access to my private discord. All of the the links to everything that I talked about are in the description. But anyway, okay, today I have a first. It's a four-person podcast, including me. Pantios King, who's been on my show before, he is a Panty-Hose King, wrote into me and told me he met this couple and he's getting them into Panty-Hos and it's a super interesting episode. I thought it was like a thruple. So there's a little confusion in the beginning. First, I talked to Pantios King. He talks to me about how he met this couple and he like turned them on to Panty-Hos. It's a very, it's more interesting than I thought, the story, because

I thought that they were hosers and he met them. But not really. You got to hear the whole story of how he met them on Fed Life. They're just like a very curious, open-minded, like, artistic couple that was like down to sort of see what, like, the whole Pantyos thing was all about. And they met up with Pantyos King. And they've been wearing Pantyos ever since. They had been into encasement and they're like a kingster couple.

Anyway, they've been to dungeons or into role play. They've done some of those kinds of things with Pantyos King. continue to take picks of them. He's got a hold to wear panty hose. He likes them. He talks about his first experience with them. Nylon S is into them. She dresses up.

She posts picks now over on FetLife. She posts picks of her feet too. You could check her out. She's called Nylon S on FetLife. I'll put the name in exactly how to spell it in the description. Pantios King is a podcaster. He has a whole podcast just for hoser. So if you want more hoser content, go check out his

podcast. It's called Tite's Frame of Mind. He's super great. He's been on my show before. If you want to hear his backstory, just Google his name in Spotify and you'll find his origin story. He's called Panyos King for a reason. He's a content creator. He's helping them do content. The whole other thing that they have going on is their Polly and I question them about that and they're very open and you know, with each other in their relationship when we talk about that a little bit in the beginning. But their whole episode is super interesting because like I said, the whole story unfolded for me, just like it's going to unfold for you and I had a different version of it

at first in my mind but it's but the actual version is to me more interesting than I thought so you're going to enjoy it for sure. I will have picks on my Patreon to check out or you could check them out on Fet Life Nylon S

but anyway I'm going to get right to it and be right back on first with Paneos King and then Holt and his girl Veronica come on the call. Hey Paneos King welcome to the show. Welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today?

I'm good. I'm good. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Okay. So listen, you got some people in the background. And like, honestly, I really probably need them on a whole episode of just themselves. I think you do.

Because they are hosers. And there's a woman in the mex, which my hosers love to hear from. You know, her name is Veronica. He's Holt. But they're like content. They're starting to create content and stuff. And it seems like she's really into hos. And we are going to talk to them.

Now, when you feel, first originally like email me and said oh i want to be on with this couple i thought you were like in a thruple with the couple i was like oh no no thruple would be you're banging out of massive a massive stretch for me because i'm you're gay that's why i thought it was a good episode but then you said something about being polly like what the fuck does that have to do with this i think you're just well they've taught me about they've taught me about being polly and i i i I did not believe that Polly was a thing. I always was one of those people that thought Polly was sort of a delusional thing that people who want to cheat on each other use as a way to, you know, get it done.

And then after having hung out with them a couple of times and, you know, done some photo shoots and some some rope play and obviously everything in pantyhose, I learned that this was an actual, like, healthy thing. These are a healthy married couple that actually are in love with each other and yet are still open enough to do all sorts of these really kinky, really fun things. And there was no disingenuous nature to it. Yeah, but let me ask you this. Are you hooking up with the guy? Yeah. Okay. So they're open and we're going to talk to.

I'm going to talk to them about being open. But they happen to be hosers and content creators. You're called Panny Hose King because you were a very. big in the content creating in Panihos, like back in the day, right? You were ahead of your time. Yeah. Right. And you are gay, like you said, which I think also makes you unique. Now, how did you meet this couple, Veronica, and Holtz? So I was on FetLife and I was doing, I was doing my usual perusal of like guys in the area who I think are cute. And I saw Holt's profile, which at this time is a hot name, okay, by the way, is he as hot as his name? Holt. Yes.

Okay. And so I ran into his profile and I figured and I do what I always do is I fire off a letter saying, Hey, are you into, you know, would you be open to this? Like here's what I'm into. I do my pitch. You know, and I, that's how I, and by the way, like listeners out there, that's how you get, if you want to get like, you know, ass in the way that you want it, like have, have something lined up. So I wrote him and then.

Because you like poking. up with guys who wear hose while you're wearing hose, right? Like, that's like your thing. Like, you're into that, correct? Yes. Okay, cool. Mm-hmm. And then I got, I got the notification that, like, I saw on the profile that, that married and Polly, and I was like, I was interested in meeting. And then I, I went over to the house,

and that's when I met the Nylon S. And she was very, very pro, like, nylon very, very curious about it and I brought over a bunch of panty hose and everybody well actually you know and everybody wore there was actually a fourth person who showed up too which I did not even realize and then so they came over uh I came over to their house and then there was sort of like I guess it was like a class like and I'd never really done anything like this before where I kind of demonstrated on Holt how to like get off wearing pantyos really well for a man and then it sort of went for there. Like then we started hanging out and now we're at the point now where you know, we're regularly hanging out. We're doing photo shoots, excuse my snodiness. And yeah. So that's that's,

when you say hanging out, is that in quotes like hanging out, hooking up? Hanging out and hooking up. It's interchangeable, I'd say. Right. Now is the girl there while this is happening or does she take no part in it. She is there. I'm usually photographing them together. Okay, but when you hook up with him, you're saying you hook up with him, correct? Somehow? Or no? I thought you said you hook up with him. No, what, fuck? What? Yeah. Hook up. Oh, I think you said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, is she there when you hook up? No. Okay, so she's never there when you guys hook up. No. That's okay. I wouldn't expect her to be there if you're, like, you know what I mean most of the time. So, but she's fine with him being into guys,

but she's not interested in taking part in it or watching it or anything. No. Okay. What do you guys do together? Like, I guess, I mean, it's, like, it's, we, I've done ropes. I'm learning about rope stuff and, like, he wore pantyos. I wore panos. I tied him up and, like, spanked his ass with, like, riding.

So that's what I'm getting out. You're not really hooking up with him, like, very hardcore. You're just doing... No. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's what you should have said when I asked you. I'm got...

This is why I need to be involved in these conversations because, you know, hooking up with him. And that's why you got confused when I said, is she there? Because you're like, you're not really hooking. You're not really having like full on guy and guy action with him at all. You're kind of walking them through like some BDSM stuff. You're doing some like, like, like, kinky stuff with them and stuff like that. But you're really not, like, you guys aren't blowing each other or giving each other

hand jobs or anything. like that. No. I kind of in my mind thought there was going to be a hookup and then there were like then I showed up and there were three people there and there was another girl there who I, whose name I forget, but it's also one of the girls that Holt also hooks up with. Okay. And I was like, oh, I'm obsessed with this couple. I keep going. Yeah. Yeah. Go on. And I was like, oh, this is interesting. So they, we got into pantyhoes together, me and Holt. And I taught him the technique that we use with a vibrator, where if you're wearing panty hose and you're a guy, one of the best techniques that you can do is sort of strap the cock to like one side. I prefer the left and sort of take it and use it on the undercarriage, like sort of the underside of the cock.

And let's go really good edging technique. And I taught them how to do that. And that was essentially the first class. And it was very freeing. It was very freeing because I was like, wow, this is like, you know, it was, it was sort of like, it reminded me back in my early college days when I actually had my first threesome was two guys and one girl. And like, it was very, it was very exciting just to see like this like really attractive, really sexy couple, like get involved. And I was sort of there kind of like giving them the like the hard introduction to panty hose. And it's it sort of, it sort of has. Develop since there. Now, it's not a thruple.

It's not like a date. We're not doing anything that's like considered, I guess, X, triple X, but it's certainly not things that you would know, show your children either. You know what I'm saying? I guess. I mean, so there, is he into guys at all? Holtz? I know that from his personal background, he has had in the past homosexual feelings for guys, but he's primarily into chicks. Okay.

So you don't cross-circle. and boundaries like that's not on the table would you want to cross more boundaries with holt i mean yeah he's good looking as hell i wouldn't i wouldn't turn it down but like i mean or do you leave hot and bothered from these classes quote unquote do i leave what hot and bothered hot yes bothered no okay but i mean like because you're like are they like getting off and you're teaching them but are you also getting off yourself like it just i'm looking to see like how far these yeah well well yeah like i like i definitely I'm getting off. I don't know.

I don't know how else to tell you, but like, do you know that like when you're sort of like doing sort of a voyer thing? It's sort of like I, when I'm shooting them, you know, getting like, you know,

getting hot in like, you know, their scenes when we're shooting the panty of photography. That's like enough for me. I've actually came like photographing them. Like that's how hot they are to me. So basically like the class was you showing them certain things because you've kind of been there, done that, and been in the Paniho's world.

And now you're, but now is it like you're training them to be content creators? And that's what you're doing in these classes, like filming for them or whatever? Because I don't understand what the classes are for. Is it for content? So, okay, so in, in Fat Life down here in Florida, I'm sure it's like that everywhere. There are like groups of people that get together and they have like classes for Polly people. So like what they do is everybody gets together in a sex. dungeon and they have. Yeah, but this was like one that was sort of like I just didn't, I had no

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All you got to do is go to pika vibe.com slash strictly and $15 is going to be automatically applied at checkout. That's pika vibe.com slash strictly or just go to the description and click on the link. Polly people. So like what they do is everybody gets together in a sex dungeon and. Like a meetup? Yeah. But this was like one that was sort of like, I just didn't, I had no idea that that's like what I was hosting.

And I thought it was a hookup, but then it wasn't a hookup, but then it was still hot. And then we've met up afterwards. Does that make any sense? Yeah, totally. That makes total sense. That brings it all together. And now I understand it. You know, so after that, you realize it's a class.

Now you connect with this couple and you like them and stuff. And now when you move further, what does it become? Does it become something where you're kind of like really helping them with content, and creating and all that kind of stuff. That's the idea. I kind of, that that's the idea. I think that they're really just,

they're, they're super attractive couple. They're, I mean, like, and I know that sounds like looks this and all that stuff, but they really are. They're super attractive couple.

The Nylon S is, she's gorgeous. Yeah. And just, they're too, they're too hot not to be seen by people. I know people are going to get a lot of like, their jollies from just,

like, seeing these people. Like, they've got the ability to make content that is just fucking hot. So I, I want to be involved with that. I want to be like collaborative with it. But it's not something that I'm doing for monetary gain myself.

I just like going over like and photographing them because it's fucking hot, you know. Okay. And you're and you've continued to do that. How many times have you had like photo sessions and content sessions with them at this? So far it's been three. Okay. Is it five? Five.

Okay. Five. And you're taking pictures, video and like where do they post this content? And then I'm going to get them on the phone. Well, we're going to, like, it's going to, this is mainly for Nylon S, but it's all going to be on Nylon S's fat life profile. Oh, okay. But doesn't she have an Instagram too or anything else or an only fan? No, no.

They're very private citizens, like outside of, yeah. So, like, you know, and, you know, they have, they have, you know, a private life. So there is not necessarily, like, anything outside of Fat Life. It's Fat Life exclusive, I would say. Oh, okay. And so do they get off that? Well, I guess it'll be, I have questions for them and I can ask them. So what, and so get it for you, it's kind of like fun.

You found these new friends. You have a lot in common with them because they are very into pantyhose, obviously, right? So you have that major thing in common. Nylon S when, when like, you because it reminded me of you, you know, when you were, you had your sort of like come to Jesus moment with pantyhose. Yeah. And you were like, oh my gosh, like the nylon on nylon sensation feels so good. Yeah. You know, and I heard her say that exact same thing the other day when they had,

it was, there was me and another guy that was there that they ended up hooking up with later on that night. But I came over and did some shoot with them and she was sort of going, she was sort of talking about this and she was like, oh my God, nylon nylon feels really good. And the other guy was like, yeah, I'm actually really turned on right now. And it was just, it's very, I don't know, it's very freeing to like see this happening. So that's why I found it. I found it to be interesting that I wanted to sort of, I wanted to sort of make these couple, like, understand that like, and maybe, maybe it is a little political or self-promotional, sure, but it also is part of me wanting to sort of normalize, because it's what I do. It's what I, you know, it's my big passion is normalizing the wearing a panty hose and helping people understand that it's, it's not really, like, it's not deviant as people would have it believe. And so I think it's, it's, good to see these people that are, you know, like, like, you know, they're a heteropoly couple or bisexual poly couple.

I don't know. You'll have to ask them. Like, I think everybody's like, everybody's into boys and girls. Uh, I think Nylon S is definitely bisexual. I think, uh, Holt is bi-curious or. Are you on a mission to maybe one day hook up? You could like pretend I don't tell them I'm asking you this. Just answer yes or no.

Uh-huh. I know he's sitting right there. Are you hoping that one day? you know, like later out, you know, you wind up in the, in the bedroom with them. Of course. I mean, like, I would never say no. Yeah, yeah. Of course.

Why not? Right. Yeah. But I'm sure you're happy to have made some cool friends, right? As well. That's exactly it. Yeah. Like, that's exactly it.

And like, you know, eventually I'm going to, I'm going to eke my way in there. Right. I would assume nothing less of you. That's what I would do. You see a little window opportunity, but you got to be cool about it. And then like, like, a, like, a, couple? Are you kidding me? Like if I don't have an ulterior movers. Well, listen, Fannie's King. I like how you told us this whole story in bits and pieces. I totally understand it. Why don't you give it? And we'll

talk to you at the end again. Why don't you give a shout out to all that you do do? Because I feel like you are a great resource for other hosers. Do you still have your own podcast? Yes. Yes. The podcast is type frame of mind and I will be having them on as guests eventually. Okay. So tights frame of mind. You should have them on as guests like ASAP, but that's the best guest to get. I wanted to have them talk to you first because I just, I thought you'd be interested in talking to them. Oh my God. Yeah, I want like five episodes with them. Like a girl that's into a panty house. I could talk to her for a whole hour, but we're doing this first, which is, it's fine and it's fun. So you have your great podcast called Titesvary of mine, and it's all hoser related. So that's great for any hoser out there. It's all

hoser content, right? And then why don't you give a shout out to your Instagram or anything else that you have. I am, you can find me at the panty hose king on Instagram or you can find me at the panty host king on fat life. And if you're interested in finding nylon s, she is my friend on fat life. You can hunt her through there or you can search for her through. It's nylon, N-Y-L-O-N-E-S-S and that's her profile name. So, and I would, I suggest it like you'll see the photo. She's encased. It's fucking hot. And there you go. Well, a quick question. And I'm going to ask I'm going to get them on, but like, does Holt wear panty hose too or no? Yes, yes, he does.

Okay, get them on for me, please. Okay. Okay, hey, Holt and Veronica. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast. I could have done a whole episode with you. I probably want Veronica on by herself because I'm assuming you guys have a super interesting backstory. How old are you guys? I'm 31.

I am 34. Okay, so how long have you been together? Well, we've been together for a total of probably a little over three years, and we've been married for nearly a year. Oh, okay. So, and how old are you guys again? Sorry, I forgot if I asked that question. How old are you? Oh, 31 and 34.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, so how long you guys been open and Polly for? The whole time? Yeah, the entire time we've known each other and before. Before what? I mean, I guess we can like talk about our individual Polly journeys, but like we're both solo Polly when we met. Okay.

So you're both Polly and you went into it saying I'm Polly, you're Polly, and you met on a Polly app or something. Like you both met with knowing that you're both Polly and that's how you roll, correct? Yeah. Yeah. We met in the wild and I didn't know much about Polly Amory except I'd been basically de facto doing it my entire life. Oh, but you didn't know that there was a word for it? I didn't know the word or any of the terms or any of it, but it's just what I naturally did

and never really thought about it. People would always ask me, you know, when are you going to get a girlfriend? And it's like, well, I have things going on in the background and I just don't feel a need to tell everyone about everything and I just do what I do. So, but no, but was it consensual, Polly Amory? Or were you having multiple partners and no one knew it? about it and that's just how you were? You know, in my teenage years, I was probably more reckless about it than I should have

been, but my whole adult life, just practicing ethically and people knew about the other people. Right. So you had multiple relationships with multiple people. Everybody knew about each other. You didn't really put a label on it, but you knew that you enjoyed dating multiple people at the same time. Like, you weren't just going to be involved with one person.

Exactly. Did you ever have primary partners or are you guys? guys each other's primary partner? Yeah, we're primary partner. We're married. Yeah, we're, yeah. Well, listen, I've talked to a lot of poly people, even married poly people sometimes aren't, don't do the primary thing.

Like, there's a lot of different ways to structure polyamory. It sounds like Holt wasn't structuring it, where it with anyone primary. But now that you're with your girl now, she's your primary partner and you still have other relationships with both of you? Exactly, yeah. I've got one active one on the side. and what do you have going on, Veronica? How many do you have, Veronica?

How many girlfriends or boyfriends do you have at the time? You know, I'm not a label person. I just have my husband and I have intimate friends. Right, too. But do you have romantic relationships with anybody else? Like that you're in love with? I have two other men that I have kind of like an ongoing sexual intimacy with. But not a...

Well, of course it's emotional. okay. I'm my friends. Okay, but I fuck my friends too and I call them booty calls. They're not my boyfriends. I'm just wondering if you're Polly, like to me what the difference between being open and ethically non-monogamous and being Polly is with Polly relationships, people are in love with more than one person, not just fucking more than one person.

You don't mean? Or you guys are, and I know you said you don't like labels, but you call yourself Polly. I love all my friends. I love all my friends and there's varying intimacy with my friendship. Right. but is there romance there? Define romance. It's how you feel for your husband.

Why did you marry Holt? Because you feel romantic to him. Listen, maybe you don't have any other romantic partners right now, but you're open to it and you allow each other to have that, correct? Yeah. I mean, for me, for me, I don't want to be too controlling, right, of anybody else. And I, you know, I like the idea of being able to express myself freely.

And that's kind of what it's about for me. And, you know, Holt and I have a special relationship because our lives work so well together and we complement each other. And our chemistry, to me, is unlike anything else I've ever experienced. And that's why I wanted to marry him. Right. Okay. But there's no...

For all those reasons. Right, I got it. Most people marry somebody. But so there's just no boundaries, though. There's no possessiveness. There's no jealousy. Like, anyone could go on dates with. Like, you could play solo with other people.

Like, that's how it's set up, correct? Well, I certainly feel possessive at times. But ethically, I don't want to be too controlling. So we have some boundaries where we tell each other things. we have a shared calendar. We always know who's doing what with who when, you know, we have, I mean, you know, but we try not to control each other too much. Yeah. Yeah.

We play separately and together. Well, having a calendar with all your stuff and everything, not that sounds controlling, but there's structure to it. And it's not just like a free-for-all. And there's nothing. I don't call that controlling. I don't know what controlling is. And most relationships, no one's controlling anybody or unless there's a problem. You know, it should be, there shouldn't be control in any relationship, really.

But, you know, because you want to roll the way that you do, you do have stuff that maybe regular couples wouldn't have, which is a calendar stating everything that everyone's doing at all time. So that jealousy and possessiveness and those things stay at bay, right? Because there could be those kinds of things that come up. And that's normal. You guys are human beings. Just because in your mind, you want to be totally open and everything.

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right what about you halt yeah and it definitely it definitely gets complicated because like on the calendar we have different color coding for different combinations of people and you know it gets a little head spinning sometimes yeah i mean i you know it sounds more controlling than in regular relationship but i don't think that there's anything wrong like i think that you do need that kind of stuff and that like sets you up for more success in that kind of relationship because you guys both value each other as your primary, whether you want to call it that or not, right? Like, you don't want anything that you guys both do outside of your marriage to fuck up your marriage, right, because you guys are each other's faves.

Of course. Right. Right. Right. But we've got veto power over each other if we really, really feel like we need to exercise it. But that's like sending the nuclear weapons if you were right to. We both don't want to do that.

Like, we, yeah, it's like we trust each other. we sometimes it's about not trusting the other person. Yeah, but sometimes it's about not trusting the other person. And that's why you might have to veto a situation, right? Because maybe you, you, someone else is coming from the wrong place. I, sure. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Have you ever used veto power?

Yeah, there was, well, there was, I mean, do you want to talk about that whole? Yeah, I can. use veto power. I made my feelings about someone else known, but also explicitly made sure it was understood that I wasn't exercising my veto power, but I had to make it clear that I did not like this person. Was it a guy or a girl? It was a guy. Right. And what, what was it about him that you didn't like? Did you not like his vibe? Did you think he was like after your chicked? Was he not cool with you? Or all the above? His aesthetic and the way he posted about things on FetLife showed a very high level of entitlement.

Right. And then also we know we have people that we know in common that gave us some backstory on him. And it was worrisome. Okay. It really, really made me feel like he's not actually interested in what he says he is and that there might be a lot more emotional issues. with this person and it sounded very complicated. And we already have very busy lives like everyone else.

We don't need more complication. Do you guys have kids? Yeah. I have a son from an existing relationship. Right. Okay. In that relationship, a pre-existent. Okay.

So when did you realize you were into Pany Ho's Hole? Well, when we met the Pany Ho's King and that's, that's a whole story. Wait, are you like a hoser that didn't, like you're not a guy, like you're a guy that just got to hose by meeting him? Yeah. I had no experience with us. Interesting. Well, one of people my entire life have asked me what my hobby is and they expect,

you know, football or I play video games or something. Yeah. And my answer is usually nothing because I don't want to get into the whole conversation where, you know, I basically like to just find interesting people and talk to them and just go see what's going on. So just from being on set life, Panyhose King had messaged me maybe a few months

previous us actually meeting and it was just kind of bouncing around in the back of my head. I don't know anything about Panyhose or whatever's going on over there, but I'm curious, it's not going to be boring. So I eventually followed up on that and we just met up at his place and that's what he was talking.

about the class. Like he expected some kind of hookup. And I thought I'd made it pretty clear that we're just, we're just interested in what this is. And we had no expectations or. Interesting. You're just curious people. We just want to just show us what you're doing.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. And you brought along a friend, that other girl that went was she your guy's friend that came with you? Yeah, that's a partner of mine. Okay, cool. So you guys all show up. Did he have all the pantyhoes?

Did you have any pantos? And this is going to be your first experience with them. Correct? Super interesting. Like, I mean, if I had gone to the dollar store and bought some shitty tanny hose, I would have been left at. You know, I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah.

And yeah, he had everything ready to go. This was the whole production. Oh, my God. And then did you both? I mean, we could tell from, we could tell from the first five minutes. I mean, this is a life. Okay. So what went down from your guy's standpoint?

Like, you're sitting there, you get to this house. He thinks it's a hookup, but it's really not. You guys are curious and want to know more about this. he's got the panty hose. Do you start putting them on? Yeah, he invited me to put some on, and he had this whole array of sex toys and offered to use lots of them on me.

And, you know, I don't know him at this point, so I'm apprehensive. And it's, I thought I'd made it clear that we were just curious what was going on, but he was searching for what he thought was a hookup. So we had a lot of uncertainty about what the situation was. I put on a pair of panty hose and he explained the benefit that they're tight and they can hold your penis in a certain position so that it's easier to use a vibrator on it without it flopping all over the place. That makes it a one-handed thing and is much more convenient.

And I learned that I appreciated that. That felt very nice. He held a vibrator on my penis and took photos of me for a while and... I enjoyed myself. It was a little awkward because we didn't know what the misunderstanding was, but we all knew there was some kind of misunderstanding. Oh, my God, it's kind of funny. Hearing the story from the both of you,

you know, separate stories of the same situation from both sides. It's interesting. Right. But you're going with it. But, yeah, I mean, I signed up for an experience, and as long as nothing too crazy is going to happen, I'm alar for the ride here. Yeah.

Okay. So, Ed, your girl's putting on hose, too? Did you? I don't remember. I don't think you did. Veronica, did you put on some of those? No, this was,

no, this was all about you. We, we put them, me and Holt's friend, our friend, put them on him because men don't know how to put panty hose on.

Oh, that was hopeless. I had no idea that you needed to punch them up at the bottom. You know, you don't just, like, you know, it's like a sock. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay. And I mean, yeah, you know, we're just kind of there along for the ride.

You know, we're just kind of, you know, all hanging out. Yeah. No, Pantyhose King is wearing. Yeah. Panthers King is wearing panty hose too, correct? So now you're seeing two guys wearing panty hose. Did you like seeing your guy in panty hose? And Hull, tell me, like, how the panty hose felt for you when you put them on for the first time. Well, you know, I had no idea. They're clinging in coats. busy and my whole life this is just supposed to be for women. And, you know, I don't think women totally get this, but like men are generally not

paying attention to what women are doing with their clothing. Like, we're just not, it just doesn't even register to us. Right. Like, they put so much work into their outfits and stuff. And, like, if it's, if it's, like, brought up to me, I'll notice it and I'll recognize that a lot of efforts been put into it. but I'm just not generally by nature going to notice things like Panyhills. So my entire life is just a thing in the background that's everywhere.

Yeah, but now you're wearing them. I'm just not even seeing it because it's so mundane. But I put them on and I had no idea what they were going to feel like. And I was pleasantly surprised. I put them on some days. I use them for the masturbation thing that the Panios King showed me. And I've been doing sense because it feels great. That's interesting.

And then afterward, if we, you know, have some kind of photo shoot or something early in the day, we'll wear them the rest of the day. And it's great. I mean, they're cozy and they're functional. So that first experience, like your girls are just there watching you. You're like, you know, have this experience with him. It went probably a little farther than you thought because like you said, there was not going to be a hookup. But you did like he used a sex toy on you. You know, that's as far as it went.

Like so after you leave. that day? Like, what happens? You just continue talking and you're like, oh, I want to go back and do where panty hose with him again? Like, how does it progress after that first experience? Either one of you could answer that. Well, first, we had to clear up the misunderstanding. But after that, everything was great. Like, we, we, beyond kink and beyond fetish, we have a lot of things that, a lot of mutual interest. We talk about politics and film and, religion and all the things that people just like to talk about in general. So we've really built a friendship beyond that.

Right. And sometimes we'll hang out and not even do photo shoots or anything can't relate it. We just enjoy each other's company. Right. But once you first like decided to like let him know like, listen, this is never going to be like a hookup or anything, but like did you say, but I liked wearing pantyhoes, like let's do a photo shoot again. Like how did the second photo shoot come up? Well, you know, I've always liked the idea. of being in a photo shoot and I tried the encasement thing.

We actually, Holt and I were hanging out with other friends and we, prior to meeting the panty hose king, you know, we were hanging out with other friends and they had one of their friends over that had panty hose and they were like, oh, I saw this, I found out about this encasement thing that people are into. And I thought, you know, we could try it. And so we had, we had done it, you know, just for fun. And I, I kind of felt like a sex toy, kind of like I was the sex doll, but, you know, alive. And so that was, for me, that's the appeal.

And I. It's kind of coincidence that you had already kind of done that before. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It was a major coincidence that it was back to. back. And so, yeah, I just, I like creative projects. So I thought it'd be fun to do photo shoots with the encasement. And because I definitely like, yeah, there is a specific feeling with

the nylon on nylon. Yeah, right. When you're, when everyone's encased, you all feel like you're these mannequin dolls. Yeah. And it's definitely, definitely feeds into my dual life fantasy. definitely feeds into, you know, I'm creating this alternate version of myself. And, you know, the photo shoots helps me get into character. And I'm into that. And then you could post them on FetLife. Even though you're private, you do like to get that kind of attention and do that over there. That's right.

And I made a Fet Life to post the photos because they turned out pretty cool. Yeah. Right, right. And so, and now, Holt, did you do encasement yourself? Yeah, we've done it at home since that first time at our other friend's house. And it's kind of fun, yeah. Okay. And so what was the second photo shoot?

Was that the time that, because I know you also did a time where he tied you up? Yeah, tying me up is much more recent, and that's actually one of my more direct interests is like rope bondage and chaining and impact stuff. So that's what you guys did most recently. You want to talk about that experience? Yeah, Panyos King is interested in BDSM stuff and wanted to have a position where my butt was kind of, I'm like over on my back and then have my legs held up in the air. And I told him that, you know, I have a lot of experience with rope and suspension and things like that. And I coached him through how to do all those things and how to tie the knots and everything.

Oh, because you already knew. It's difficult to do. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. No, we go to a local dungeon and I've learned a lot of about suspension and rope and different kinds of restraint bondage. Right. So you guys are kingsters already before this. Were you both on Fat Life?

Were you on Fat Life? Holt before? Or I know that she just made her own Fat Life, but you guys met each other in Fat Life. So Holt, you were the one on there, right? No, we didn't meet on Fat Life. No, no, I thought Panyos King said he met you on Fat Life. Holtz. Oh, yeah.

He met us on fat life. Yeah, that's what I mean. She and I met, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, you were a kingster. I had a fat life long before she did. Right. So that's what I'm saying. You guys are in that whole kink world to begin with and everything.

So you knew about Shabari, correct? Already. Yes. Right. It's different. Shabari is a very specific type of rope. That's not what you guys did. Right.

It's very, I have not met anyone that teaches Shabari. I have not met anyone who knows how to tie Shabari. There is a book at the dungeon that we go to to learn Western rope tying. And it's a Shabari book that was, I actually watched someone give it away to someone that was going there because they're like, nobody, nobody knows, we don't, you know, teach this and nobody was really into it. But you guys seem into it. So, here you go. But yeah, the first time I saw rope tying was Shabari, the lifting, you know, the pain, the, you know, that's kind of what I expected when we first went to these rope tying classes. But it's, it's, you, you learn very quickly that you're not just going to go straight into suspension.

You're going to, they're going to learn how to tie a knot on your knee and it's going to be very difficult. And you're going to have to go back, you know, multiple times. before you can, you know, learn how to tie a knot correctly. And they actually, actually, they just were doing a suspension class that I, unfortunately, was not able to make it to. But Holt was able to make it to one of them. But no, it's, it's just a different kind of tying than Shibari. Yeah, Shabari is, like, beautiful, but it's very, very intricate.

But you guys are into the rope stuff, and that's what you did on your most recent thing. Are you wearing hose when he's tying you up? Oh, always, yeah. Always, right? I mean, that's what Pantios King, it's like when you're with Panyos King, there's Hose involved, correct? Yeah, no matter what. I mean, the primary function of what we're doing is we have photos of she and I in Panyos. So the rope might be an accoutrement to that, but it's not the main purpose.

Do you enjoy the pictures too in posting them on Fat Live, Holt? Well, I don't actually post them on FetLife. Oh, you don't? They all go over to Panios Kang for his mailing list. Oh, okay. He does it over there. And you guys have no interest in sort of taking your content outside of FetLife or doing anything like that, correct?

It's just so new. I mean, maybe, but, you know. Right. We're just not there yet. Yeah, I get it. So now, Holt, he said that you do, do you hook up a guy sometimes or no? Like, are you open that way?

Are you, like, gender fluid? How do you define yourself sexually if you, had to. You know, much earlier in my life, in my teens and early 20s, I had a lot of romantic and sexual experiences with close male friends. A lot. Maybe not a lot. I mean, three.

Yeah. But I'm open to it. I haven't felt that way in a long time, but I'm not going to wall myself off from it. Right. So you have, but do you need more of an emotional connection with a guy to be with a guy? Is it that, is that kind of a thing? I think so Yeah

And just in general Like when you were When you were talking about being confused by polyamory and E&M Which is overarching over all that Yeah I I was like very promiscuous in my teens And ever since then

I've been like really really romantically driven I think Yeah I don't really get a lot of like sexual feelings unless I'm like invested in someone emotionally. Yeah. Do you miss those days when it was just so easy to just get sexually into someone? Because I was the same way. I was very promiscuous when I was younger. I acted out sexually a lot. I fucked a lot of people. I never, I actually couldn't like someone to get off on them. And then like I completely changed after I got sober.

And now like I kind of have to have something. Like I could fuck a friend and like have a booty call that I really like a person that, you know what I mean? Like I do need sex in my life. But like I do sometimes miss the days where I could just get horny for anybody. I don't know why. I mean, but you know what I mean. Yeah, right? Well, it's easier. We're older and we have stress and we're busier and it's just back then that was the new thing.

And even though it's nothing physically different, you're just a different person now. Yeah, that's a beauty of life. I do miss it. Yeah, you know what I mean, right? Like, listen, I wouldn't go back. Yeah. But it's also like, you know, I used to drink. lot more too. I'm not entirely sober at this point in my life, but I've dialed that way back.

Right. And you remember, you remember the good times and there's a lot of shit that goes along with it too. And it's easy to romanticize these things. Yeah, totally. Listen, I've been there, done that and I look back and I'm like, oh, you know, so happy that I made it through and nothing really bad ever happened and, you know, the best times of my life, but I was acting out. There was a lot of negatives that came with it too. But, you know, you guys are in your 30s now. You're past the 20s. Like the 20s are like, I get why people drink a lot and party a lot in the 20s. 20s are harder than people think. I think, you know, being in your 20s is a, is really difficult work because you're just

like figuring out who the fuck you are. You know what I mean? And we all try on so many different things. And I feel like once you get into your 30s, 40s, you know, you kind of have a better understanding of who you are. And everyone grows and changes, you know, that's just normal part of life. So, you know, your ethical non-monogamy, like you guys are open and stuff. Do you have, like you have another girl in your life, right?

Hold, that's what you said? yes and that is that like a friend that you are close with that you that how long have you been with her seven or eight months I guess okay and now Veronica because you're definitely into chicks like do you hook up with her too or or do you guys not share partners well she and I are not into each other you guys don't have the same taste in girls not always right sometimes we do yeah so you're not into her. Correct. Right.

And Hold, you've never been into any of the guys that Veronica has been with. No, but sometimes we do like tag team and things like that. Right. You'll have threesome. Well, not even threesomes because I'm not involved sexually with the guys. Right. But there is kind of a bond that you get with guys that you tag team with. Well, a threesome could be an

MMF a threesome, that's when the guys hook up, but then there's an MFM a threesome. That's when there's two guys in the room and they both are engaged, but they don't do anything. That's still considered a threesome. It's just not a MMF threesome. I learned these things by doing my show for 13 years and talking to 1,300 people. So you're probably having threesome, but you're just not, you know, it's not an MMF threesome where you're hooking up with a guy, correct? Right, yeah. We don't do anything sexual to each other. Like we'll bump into one another. Of course. We're not like, I'm not grabbing his penis or anything.

Yeah, you'll cross swords. Veronica, what kind of threesomes do you enjoy the most? Like with another guy or with another girl on your husband? Oh, geez. It's just a completely different vibe. I've had both. Yeah, it's completely different. You know, I, you know, I kind of get it.

Now, my first threesome was with a couple, a girl and a guy. And that was kind of an ongoing thing for a while. It was really fun. and, you know, I was kind of, you know, they were an existing couple, so I was kind of like the helper, and I'm, you know, I'm a giver with women, right? So I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the helper in the situation. Right. And, but with, you know, with two guys. Oh, you're the receiver, I for sure. Right. Well, and, and the giver. And so it's, it's, it's like it's happening at the same time, you know, so it's definitely, I would say, there's,

like more responsibility when it's two guys because the most likely case is that they know it's like I'm the one I'm the connector piece right like yeah like I'm the one they're not hooking up with each other yeah right so it's like the pressure is on me yeah true to make it happen to transition into this happening yeah and to you know to to to keep it going you know so that it's it's a lot more pressure when it when you're the girl yeah when you're the only girl for sure. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so you're... Well, because if you're not in the mood, I mean, the whole thing is just not going to work. Yeah, I get really drunk. Oh, really? To loosen up. Oh, yeah. She doesn't necessarily have to, but I think it's her fail, so... Right, right. Yeah.

So, the last question, Nyla, like, Veronica, like, after trying on hose, I mean, Holt already said that he actually enjoyed it and felt it, you know, like, are you wearing panty hose now in your daily life? for is it just like strictly when you guys are like dressing up and doing your stuff or like do you have like a newfound interest in them or anything at all? Oh well I certainly wear them more you know I wear them to the office yeah you know I I like wearing I like wearing them with a nice little business skirt and heels you know yeah I yeah I certainly wear them more like that now I don't know if you guys know this I mean Paniho's king has told you the reason like when I first started my show like 13 years ago, 12 years ago.

Like, I got all my collars from Craigslist and I had to go looking for them. And that's when I realized, like, there's all these guys into pantyhows. Like, that was like pantos and feet. Like, those are the two things that I saw a lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so I just didn't know, you know. And then after doing my show for so long, I have a whole pantyos tear on my Patreon because I

couldn't believe how many guys were. And, you know, and what you don't realize as a woman, I think is like how many guys are checking you out when you are wearing pantyos? Like, do you notice getting any kind of attention? Do you ever take notice of that? I haven't. No. You should try.

Look around. I have, so like since I made that Fet Life account, and I've been posting the Pany Ho's photos. Yeah. I have been getting so many messages in my inbox. Of course. And I have been really realizing, yeah, how much crossover there is with the foot fetish community and with the, and it's funny because I used to take photos of my feet,

just walking around. I used to, you know, just when you're walking around the garden barefoot, I don't know why I would do this. But I guess, yeah, there's a big interest in that. But no, I haven't noticed just out and about. Maybe because you're not paying attention. Look around and you'll see. Because sometimes when I'm out and not wearing,

but I see a girl. I live in Manhattan, right, New York City, so I'm walking around. There's a lot of people around me. If I see a girl in hoax, I watch the other guys around her just to see. And I always see guys like looking, you know, because you wouldn't believe how many guys are into Panios.

And listen, not all cross-dressers wear themselves. Some of them are just into, you know, women wearing. But even the ones who wear, of course, are really into women wearing. And, you know, it is a huge thing. And it's sad because most women don't wear pantyhows anymore, you know. So I feel like if you're wearing them out in and about, you're probably getting a lot more looks than you really are noticing, of course, because so many guys are starved for that. Like they're dying to see a girl dressed up like you say. You dress up for work.

You know, they love that whole thing. because really what pantyhose are, and I never really realized this, because I grew up in a day where pantyhose were, like, garbage. Panyos, you got them from CVS and they sucked, and, you know, everyone has such a bad opinion about them. But, you know, they really are like, they make your legs look like perfect.

You know what I mean? They're really, like, makeup for your legs. And so I remember Hoas were saying, like, why would you put makeup on your face and get dressed up so nice and all these clothes and then just leave your legs bare? And it is kind of true, you know? So they do really make an outfit. Yeah, when we first met the Panihose can,

You have these what seemed to me to be tall tales about how, like, I'm going to exaggerate, but you said something like, you know, 85% of men have a panty hose fetish. I'm like, okay, that sounds really high. Right. But then, you know, the messages just come from all over the place. Can you believe? I don't know what the number actually is, but it's higher than 2%. Oh, yeah.

It's high. I mean, like I said, when I started my show, I had to find guests for my show. So I would go on to Craigslist. personal as where I got all my people when it was available. And that was like one of the biggest ones. That's why I started a whole Patreon tier just for pantyhous and then the cross-dressers. And then I still, I do a fetish Friday every week.

So I talk to guys with all kinds of fetishes. But, you know, panty-hose are one of the most, the one I think that a lot of guys have. I always say to guys, you know, like, next time you're with like maybe 20 or 30 guy friends of yours, like lock them in a room, you know, and make everyone drop their pants.

and I bet you one guy is wearing pantos. I think, you know, everyone's kind of like maybe four people removed from somebody that's like into panos. Whether they wear them or not, you know, so many guys are into them. It's a weird thing. A lot of times it's about feet. It's about legs. You know, I don't know, but it's a big, it's really a big thing. And lioness, nylon ass or whatever.

I mean, you could start a hole. If you keep taking those hot picks of you encased and wearing hose and tie-d-out and all that kind of thing. and also with your feet, you know, you could get, you could see yourself grow on fat life, trust me, because that's a big sort of a thing. And a girl who actually really likes them and is coming from like that kind of a place, which is like genuine and authentic.

Like I feel like those people always rise to the top. So if you're into it, just keep taking picks with pantyhoes King. Mm-hmm. And posting them. Yeah, people, people love the footpicks. Of course. I like my own feet.

I think I have good feet. And I like that other people like them too. Yeah. And take the picks with the panty hose too as well and both of them. And you know, you'll see what fucking goes down. It's interesting. So why don't you give a shout out to your name on FetLife so people could find you over there if you want? Because I have a lot of people that are listening that are on Fet Life and they're going to ask me like, what's your Fet Life?

So why don't you give it out right now? Yeah, it's Nylon S. Nylon Felt like Nylon and N. L-E-S-S. N-E-S. And then E-S, N-S, N-E-S. So two ends or one-end? two end.

Okay, that's good to know. I'll write it down. I'll write the fat life in the description, okay? Wonderful, thank you. Yeah, Nile and S, you could go see picks over there. Definitely, you know, just so you guys know, and I don't know if Panty Ho's King, you could tell him this too. He knows for podcasting, like, episodes around the holidays,

like nobody listens. Everyone's out of town and stuff. So this probably won't air until January because I think it's a great one. And I don't want to waste it over the holiday. So this will probably go out in January. So from now to then, post a lot more. picks because you're going to, I have a very big audience, and you're going to get a lot of people going and checking you out, okay?

All right. That's a lot of time to prepare them. Yeah, yeah, keep taking picks. Pantyos King, thank you so much wherever you are for hooking me up with this couple. I mean, you guys could call in and do a whole King episode. He's off in the distance, but he's very, he's weas waving. Yeah, so go check out Pantyho's King's podcast. I'll put the title to it.

I'll put links to everything in the description, names and everything so people could find you. but thanks everyone for calling in and working through this four-person podcast, me included. Anyway, thank you guys. It was great meeting you, Cassie. Thank you so much. Yeah, you too, you guys. Bye. Bye.

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