Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1387 - Kitty is into Gang bangs, DVP, BDSM and More

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Kitty is involved ingangbangs, dvp, Bdsm and more and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and why her and her husband got into the lifestyle, the threesome they had with her husbands boss, how she then started sleeping with guys and couples, how and why she is very into dvp and dp, her first unicorn experience and what went down, how and why when she took a haitus from the lifestyle and how her husband felt about it, the rock bottom moment she had and what she did to change everything up, how she got back into the lifestyle and got very into bdsm, how and why she is mostly into gangbangs, how she sets them up and what goes down at them, how many guys she’s had at one of her extreme gangbangs, hie and why she doesn’t need a fluffer, all the other things she’s now down for including electro stimulation, pain, chocking, shibari, cnc plus hear a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of KITTY plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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you know, swinger clubs or gang beings or swinger events that are going on in your area or you want to meet other swingers or you want to start having three sons yourself. Well, right now I could give you a free trial to SDC.SDC.com is like the world's largest adult dating website. Now, it's not just a dating site. It's so much more. You can find out about all the events, the gangbings, the meetups, the hotel takeovers going on in your area, as well as anywhere else. This is cc.com. Use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link and you're going to get a free trial to check it out. Okay, today I have on Kitty. Kitty is hard. core. You're going to love Kitty. Okay. Kitty and her husband got into the lifestyle when they were

younger. Wait till you hear about their first threesome they had and how it happened. It's kind of a salacious story. But they did so much more after that. They started playing with other guys and doing things with guys and she started becoming a unicorn to couples and she really was into that. But then over time after kids and stuff, she gained weight and she took a hiatus from the lifestyle. And she talks about that and then she wound up, you know, hitting rock bottom and deciding to change it all up and lost a ton of weight and then got some plastic surgery and snatched up her body. And then she was like horny and ready to get back into the lifestyle. And since she's back in, she's into all kinds of stuff. She was into all kinds of stuff before. But now she's like even more super hardcore. She loves gangbing.

She loves BDSM. She's into consent, non-consent. She's into choking, electroplay, all kinds of stuff. She throws her own gangbang parties called Kitty Kitty Gangbings. Oh my God. She's like I said, when I say she's her curse, she really is. You're going to really love her story. It's super interesting. I have links to her stuff over in the description. Now listen, Kitty sent me in picks. And when I tell you, it is unbelievable her transformation. Her before pictures to after, you're not going to believe. You have to see them. I have them over my Patreon. It's literally like nothing I've ever seen. Even on any of those shows on TV. So anyway, you could check those out on patreon.com

slash strictly anonymous podcast or go to the description and click on the link. But I'm going to be right back on with Kitty. Hi, Kitty. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hi, I'm great. How are you? Good.

So Kitty is a real slutty name. I like Kitty. Is that like your lifestyle name? Yes. Yeah, definitely a lifestyle name. Once upon a time, I decided I needed to have a kink name. And I have a user profile name on a site that I'm on. It's called Two in the Kitty, a reference to double vaginal penetration.

And so Kitty just came out of that. Oh, my God. She likes Two in the Kitty. That's a nice way of saying like DVP. Yeah. What site are you on as Two in the Kitty, or do you not want to say? Oh, no, I can definitely share it's Fat Life. Oh, okay, cool.

All right. So listen, Two in the Kitty's of Fat Life. We already know you like DVP. God, we can't go straight there. Let's start from the beginning, because you're into a lot of different things. You came recommended by a guy I had on before named Jason, right? He was an interesting guy. He's a photographer, right, out in L.A., and he does a lot of, like, he's in the lifestyle,

but he also takes pictures. It's that guy, right? Yes, definitely. Yeah, yeah, cool. Yeah, he gave me a good episode. I'm glad that he told you about my show and you're calling in. So you sound really young to me, but I know you've been doing this for a long time, so I don't know how old you are, but we'll get there.

And you have been, though, in the lifestyle for a while. you took some time off during COVID. You lost like a ton of weight, you said, and then got like a lot of plastic surgery to look snatch. And now you're back at it, right? Yeah, definitely. All right, cool. But let's go all the way back to the beginning, Kitty.

Like, how did you wind up in the lifestyle to begin with? So my husband actually led me to it. So we met back when I was 19. And so I was very young and green with regards to anything sexual. and he was the opposite. And so we probably had three or four years of just monogamy, just he and I. And he talked about threesomes and those kinds of things throughout our relationship. And eventually I started to feel comfortable with that.

And then one day we were in Vegas with his boss from his job at the time at the convention for their work. And so we were sharing a hotel room. and we all went to a strip club and I was getting lap dances and all the kinds of things. And it was like five in the morning when we got back to our room. And I just jumped on my husband's boss. What? Wait, is it male or female? His boss?

Male, no. Oh, my God. And so it's just kind of like a spur of the moment. It wasn't even like he wasn't a lifestyle person or anything. It was just we had been having fun all night and then we could just kind of feel that there was this sort of static electricity there. and so I just kind of jumped on him and it just kind of happens in there and that was the first reason that I ever had.

Okay, but that's so crazy, right? Because there's so many things going on and this is why alcohol is like hilarious. Once I stopped drinking, my numbers went from a lot to nothing, right? Because you would never, nothing like this would ever happen unless you were wasted, right?

On so many levels it's wrong, but you should have had so many, like rules. Like there was like, because you went into it really like without any rules, without anything. Like I know you had been talking about it on some level you must have known your husband's going to be into seeing you with another guy. It was his boss, which is very taboo.

Did he work there for a long time afterwards and it never fucked up that relationship? Or did it cause problems? It caused a little discomfort for about a day. Just one day. He wasn't yet. He didn't really know what the thing. But, you know, when husband was kind of, he was kind of like encouraging me to go. So it wasn't like I just jumped without without my husband and not giving me the okay.

Oh, okay. So he had given you the, okay, even though you're drinking and stuff. Like, you knew that this was good to go. And somehow you got the vibes from the boss that it was okay. Now, was the boss like way older than him or was he around the same age as your guy? We were all the same age, yeah. And he was really hot. Oh, my God.

Was he married? Yes. No, no, single. We were all quite young. So we were all mid-20s. Oh, okay. That's different. I don't know.

Not that it's different, but it is different. I'm sorry. You're all in your 20s. It's not like this happened. You were 35 and your boss was 56. You know what I mean? Like it's a different scenario. Exactly.

Yeah. Okay. So there was like one day of awkwardness. But how was, did you dig that threesome? What went down that first time? It was, I dug it. I thought it was great.

And then I was like thinking, definitely want to do that again. And my husband and I like walking around Vegas the next day, we were just like, we were just like really horny for each other. And we just want, We didn't even want to go to the convention that he was supposed to go to. We just wanted to go stay in the room and fuck.

And, yeah, it was really hot. Oh, my God, that's so funny. Now, did you do anything else that first time while you were? Listen, I would harp on this story, but I'm sure you have so many more. We could move on. I mean, like, that Vegas trip, because you were so horny, did you guys do anything else while you were there? Or did you pick it back up when you got home? No, we just kind of left it as like a first-time experience.

And we wanted to let it rest and see how we saw. felt about it a week later while we were sober while we were away from Vegas. Make sure that we were all, that it wasn't going to cause any issues. And it didn't. We both still wanted to do it. And back in the 90s, there wasn't really the Internet, right? And it was just starting out. And so, like these days, you can go on set life.

You can find people pretty easily. You can find parties. You can find all kinds of things. But back then, like, we didn't have that outlet. So we were just finding random people. We had no idea if they were into it or not. or we would go on like internet relay chat. There was this thing called Merck.

And you could, and you could like maybe stumble upon some rooms where people were looking for that kind of thing. And they didn't have all the terms back then, like hot wife stagged, all that stuff. It was just sex. Yeah, exactly. I like all the terms they have nowadays.

We have big debates about it on my Patreon, you know, because some people find certain terms offensive. But I think it's actually, it really makes everything much more specific so you know exactly what someone's into. there's so many different things that you could be into. What is the second thing that you guys got into? Like here you are,

you had a threesome with a guy. Now, do you ever wind up having a threesome with a girl? What comes next? Yeah. Yeah. So I just wanted to try everything. Okay.

So once that was so much fun, I was like, okay, yes, I want to try threesome with girls. I became a unicorn for quite well. So unicorn is a bi girl who likes to play with couples. Oh, So you would play solo without your husband?

Yes, yes. So at first it was just he and I would bring in other men into our relationship. Okay. And then after some time, we had kids and we worked opposite schedules so that we didn't have to pay for daycare. And so it became like a necessity where I, if I was going to play, it had to be alone because then he would be staying home with the kids while I went and played. Oh, interesting. Okay. So you, but you did a bunch of male, female, male, three-sum.

for a while before you jumped to do the unicorn thing, where you started hooking up with the women, right? And now for your husband, during the times that you're with the guy, like, what would you call him? Was he like a stag that liked to participate? Was he like a cuck that wanted to sit there and watch? Yeah, he kind of goes back and forth.

He is a stagg. He likes to watch. He likes to get the stories. He likes to get the pictures, the videos. Yeah. But then he also likes to be like the other male in the MSM, right? So he likes the DVP as well and the DP. Yeah, he's really, like for New Year's this year, his big dream was to be kissing me while I was getting DPEed.

Oh my God. I was going to happen. We made that happen. How early on did you do the DVP or the DP? Because there's a lot like DVP is two dicks inside of you. DP is like two in each hole. Like which one came first and how early on did you do that? VP came first because I wasn't comfortable with Amel.

My husband has very girthy dick. So trying to do anal with him took a really long time. Yeah. So DVP was just easier for me. And so that came first. And my husband was really, really into that. And so we eventually started to find other people who also wanted to do that. And so that was the first one that came.

So here you are, girl, with a guy that's got a girthy cock to begin with. So you're obviously used to that. So what's better than that big one? It's like another one in there, right? Because listen, not every girl wants that, right? But you must have became the size screen because you're with this guy that had a really thick dick, right? So you're kind of used to it. Yeah, totally.

The bigger, the better is my policy on dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The more the better, sounds like. Yeah, yes, that as well. Yes. Okay, cool. I like to tell people I like extreme sex. Okay, guys, want to impress your girl the next time you're with her with like a huge load.

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yeah yes yes that as well yes okay cool i like to tell people i like extreme sex yeah it sounds like it but anyway so okay so you're doing the whole guy thing and then do you remember your first unicorn experience so it was it was actually pretty great we met at i can't even remember we met there was some kind of meet up or like a lunch that we met at. It was like a bar. And so I had gone home with them and she was really dominant. And that was really great for me because I'm already submissive anyways.

And then when I'm put into situations that I'm not comfortable with that I'm not used to, I need someone leading me. Like I need them telling me sort of what to do. I don't really know how to do it myself. And so she was really dominant, which is great. And she was just like, do this to my husband. Husband, do this to her. and just sort of like, it was just really great because I could just sort of relax and just do what I was told basically, which is what I'm good at, and just enjoyed myself immensely.

So do you ever, like in that thing, I know you're like begging couples, but do you ever wind up, do you fool around with the woman? Are you strictly like doing the guy and the woman's involved? No, so I'm by, so I do fool around with both of them. I enjoy eating pussy. I enjoy sucking on boobs. and I love all of that stuff. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah.

So was that your first time, though? Or have you hooked up with women before you got married and stuff? No, I had never hooked up with women before that. Oh, okay. So how was that first experience being bossed around? It was really good. Like, I didn't know if I would like it. I'd never gone down on anybody, so I didn't know if I would enjoy it.

And so I was kind of nervous doing it. I didn't know if I was doing it right and all this stuff. Yeah, totally. And, yeah, and I really enjoyed it. And I mentioned to the girl later, I was like, how did I do that was my first time? She said, there's no way. That was your first time. You did excellent.

Wow. That's good. High five yourself. Definitely. Yeah, you were a natural. You were made to be in this lifestyle. How long were you guys married before this all came up, like a couple years, five years, six years? You weren't actually married yet when that started.

We had been dating for years. So we got married five years after we. started dating and we were playing for two years before that. Oh, okay. So anyway. Okay, so now, so obviously you wind up enjoying being a unicorn too and then do you start doing couples as well as at the same time doing the guy threesomes? Yes.

So it was just however I felt whatever mood I had, if say the kids were out of town and like my husband could play then we would definitely do like the MFM and if I was saying by myself and it was sometimes just one-on-one with another guy or couples. whoever we met up with and whatever I was feeling in the moment. Now, did you guys do couple swaps? Because now you're hugging up with couples. So you're, like, in touch with couples that are down. Did you ever wind up being able to coordinate your husband being there and doing

like full swaps and stuff like that? Yeah, so he was never actually interested in playing with other women. And so we, yeah, so we never did full swap with couples. We just did MFM when he was involved. That's so typical of the Stagg-Cuck dynamic. Yeah. It really is. Like guys that are into that or into that.

And I always say, because I've had a lot of them on, and people on YouTube used to make comments, like, that's so selfish. She's so selfish. I'm like, now she didn't understand it. He doesn't care. You know what I mean? And if he did care, they'd be swingers. You know what I mean? He wouldn't be like in that dynamic. It's a very different thing. It's very specific. So he had no interest in ever being with another woman. So he's never played with another woman. Have you like, because listen, I learned through doing my show about the whole cuck queen thing. And was, is that something that you have. ever, would you want to see him with another woman and he's just not into it? Yeah, I would definitely love to see him with another woman and and actually, so back in the day, he did not play with other women, but recently he's been sort of touching and playing with other women and so sort of exploring into that, into that realm. And I'm, it definitely excites me and I definitely love watching that and I'm hoping for that to develop some more. Yeah, that's great because listen, you've done

so much, right? You would think, like, after a while, like, what more can you do? But since that was never on the table, that's probably, like, adding a whole new element to things between you guys, right? Yeah. Yes, definitely. Yeah, everything's very different. This, this, the past two years when I've been getting back into the lifestyle after my hiatus, everything is really different. We're just sort of doing a reboot and starting over, and I call it a sexual revolution because I'm just so horny all the time and just wanted to do all these new things. that I never wanted to do before. And I'm even going back and retrying stuff I didn't like, and now I like it.

Wow. So talk me through that part. Okay. So I had gotten to the point where I had gained so much weight that I didn't want to have sex at all anymore. I was just feeling very ugly. And that was a lot of why I took the haydates. That makes sense. My kids got older and also because of that.

So it wasn't even, I didn't even want my husband anymore. I was like. And so during the pandemic, I got gastric bypassed. I lost 165 pounds, which was a little bit more than half of my body weight. Yeah, and then, like, immediately just from the weight loss, I was already starting to feel just really confident and going out to clubs and picking out guys and just going to their place and we're taking some to our house now that the kids are older, like, you know, my husband and I started having MSMs again. And then I had the two skin removal surgeries and, you know, the breast implants and all the things. And it just magnified it so much more. like I'm just, I feel like I'm making up for lost times.

Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, I could imagine. You had a mommy makeover. I mean, that stuff is life changing and amazing. I totally believe in all of that, you know, for people, for sure. I mean, it changes your life. Probably not just like sexually, right? That's what we're talking about.

I'm sure it changed your life in every way. During that time, let me ask you real quick, though, during your hiatus, when you didn't feel good about yourself and didn't want to play anymore, was your husband okay with it? he was like, fine, you know, because here you guys were, you know, very involved in the lifestyle doing all this stuff. And then, you kind of, like, you know, was kind of shut down. Was he busy doing other stuff, too, that he wasn't into it either? No, so he was cool.

He was really cool with it. Obviously, he was sad. Yeah. He wanted it to continue. He loved watching me get fucked and with this little porn star, and he always used to say. Yeah. And so obviously he missed it. I think he was more upset that I didn't even want to fuck him.

That was probably. more of an issue for him. Yeah. And so, but he was really, really cool about it. He never gave me any pressure. He would occasionally bring it up and sort of ask, like, how am I feeling about it now? But he never gave me any pressure. He never made me feel guilty or bad about it.

Yeah, you're lucky. And then when I was, yeah, yeah. And when I was ready to come back, he was, like, eager, eager, let me ask you this real quick before we move on to that section. Like, during that hiatus, when you didn't even want to fuck him and he's out playing in the lifestyle, like, did, and you're like an open-minded person, obviously. right because you guys had played around and stuff like did you say hey listen like you know if you want a free pass to go do something like go do it but i'm just not interested or was he just monogamous

that whole time and or would you just like blow give him blow jobs to keep him happy how did he get his needs met yeah so i definitely gave him the free pass to go he chose not to yeah he knew that with with my self-esteem and self-confidence being so low he knew that it would hurt me even though i was giving him permission and so he just it wasn't even an option for him and and so yeah I was I was still having sex with him and just

it was really difficult like far in between and he had to sort of beg for it and so he was he was still having sex yeah yeah like once a weekish oh okay okay but yeah but it just it wasn't great sex it was like it was like a chore almost for me it was

it was rough it was rough but and so is that what kind of drove you to just bite the bullet and get the operation and just call it a day and put an end to that to that whole thing in your life? Yeah, I think like everybody else, you have to have your rock bottom moment, right? My husband and I, we were really into going to Disneyland together. And one day, he said, hey, do you want to go to Disneyland? And I thought to myself, one, I'm not going to be able to walk all day. And two, I'm not going to sit in the rides. And so I said, no, to Disneyland. and that was sort of my rock bottom moment because I loved Disneyland and I wish I could live at

Disneyland and so to say no to Disneyland was it was like that aha moment for me and then so that's when I made the appointment to go talk to the surgeon about Gashire's by pal. Yeah, that's amazing. And it's the best decision I ever made for myself. Yeah, of course. Like that moment in your life, that was like a big change you made and brave because it takes, it's all timing. And like you said, someone's got to get to that hit their bottom and,

for you, it was that. All right, so you get the surgery, it works. And then you get the plastic surgery. So that just like snatches everything up, right? And pulls you in. Like, I have to see, would you send me before and afters like for my Patreon? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, definitely do that. So you got that. And then after that, you feel so much more confident. And you did mention a bunch of things before. You're like, oh, and I wound up trying things that I hated before and I tried a new thing. So why don't you take it from like that reawakening and what went down and walk me through that period of your life? Okay. Yeah, so my husband also only let he into the lifestyle, but he was also into a lot of BBS. Right. And so he liked the spanking

and we had a few paddles and those kinds of things and wax and we tried all of it. And a lot of the things I was just like, no, I was really into that. And then over time as I started to lose interest in sex, I didn't want any of the BBSM stuff anymore. And so, so we, we, I reintroduced all of that. And now I can't get enough of it. Like I'm on Etsy looking for like the new toy that's going to bruise my ass. Like, weekly. Yeah.

I have, I have several play partners who are doms. I have one play partner who has really great skill at Shibari. And so I've been doing a lot of Shibari. He's been suspended. So I've been suspended with rope. I have a female Dom who puts me on the cross with an honor. audience quite regularly and she has a huge arsenal of toys and I have a huge arsenal toys and we mix them together and usually I end up on the cross for a good 35 minutes.

Where does that take place? Is that in a dungeon or at a swingers party or a BDSM party? Yeah, so there's a local club here in my town and it has a lot of BDSM furniture that you can use and they're open every night from Wednesday through Sunday or Wednesday to Saturday. And so that's where we go. And so that's where the audience comes in. And do you have a little exhibitionist in you that you enjoy that part of it too? Oh, fully. Yes.

Yes. I can't get enough of being an exhibitionist. I discovered that actually quite some time ago, one of the parties that I had gone to. And I wasn't into group stuff yet. It was three-sums only. and I went to a party and I sort of met up with this guy there and I thought that I was just going to play with the guy and we went into a room and he and I were playing

and then after playing I looked around and I realized that almost everybody who was at the party had sort of filed into the bedroom and they were just all around the bed watching us and that was the hottest thing that I think I'd ever experienced at the time and then so from that moment on I just knew I like to be watched I like to be up on stage and definitely exhibitionist for sure. So then did you start going to that club more often because you were down with all that kind of stuff?

Is that what got you into it? Or you were just doing that anyway? Yeah. Yeah. So that was just a house party that had done that. Okay. But that then did lead me to want to go to the club that I was talking about before. Right.

Of course. And then so I did start going there. But it wasn't the same. Like the parties were easier for me for some reason to. to find people who are interested in me. But going to the club when I was overweight at the time, I was invisible. Oh, really? And so I didn't really enjoy that club back then.

But then after the weight loss, starting to look back to the club, it was a different story. And I don't know if it was my confidence or my appearance or a little of both, but it's a whole other story now. And now I walk around that place like I own it. Listen, it's an energy and it's a vibe and it's how you feel about yourself. Because we all know, I'm sorry. know how big you are or whatever, but we all know that guys like girls of all kinds of sizes, okay? I'm sorry. I think women don't under, it's the women don't understand that. And we feel way worse about our bodies than men do. So I think it was definitely a big part of how you felt

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I don't know how big you are or whatever, but we all know that guys like girls of all kinds of sizes, okay? I'm sorry. I think women don't under, it's the women don't understand that. And we feel way worse about our bodies than men do. So I think it was definitely a big part of how you felt about yourself. So now you started,

when you started going back, though, with your great body and when stuff, you now you enjoy that club. Absolutely. Yeah, favorite place to go. It's an old house that somebody bought and sort of converted into a playhouse, basically. And so there's a pool house out in the back where they have all the BBSM stuff. And then inside the house, they have, I think they said 35 beds and nine bathrooms,

three showers. Oh, my goodness. It's just like a big, giant party every night. And everybody has to be naked at this club. Women are in lingerie or less, and men have to be totally naked. So you're just walking around, you know, with dicks in your face everywhere you go. And it's just... Are they hard?

A lot of times they are, but not always. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you go to this club always with your husband? Do you go solo? Do you do both? I have gone solo a couple of times. My husband, he's my protector and he sticks with me. And one of the side effects that came of the surgery that I have is that I can get really, really drunk.

blackout drunk very, very easily. And so as I'm sort of trying to adjust to that and make sure that I'm not like so drunk that I'm not being able to take care of myself, I like to have him by my side. He likes to be by my side. So I don't go to those parties by myself unless there's somebody else there who's a playfriend who I trust to also help look after me. Yeah, that's smart. Because listen, I was a blackout drinker. I don't drink anymore because of it because I had a problem. That's why I was a blackout drinker. And the difference between being a blackout drinker and just being like a sloppy drunk is that when you're blacked out, you're not sloppy. Like, you're walking and talking and people wouldn't really know really that you're blacked out,

but you're blacked out. You're not falling on the floor. At least that's my blackout was. So somebody wouldn't know, but you'd definitely be in danger because you're not even there. So that's smart that your guy is always there. So what other kinds of things? I mean, just like, you know, tell me more about other things that you've been into. So I'm really into gangbanks. That's like my big thing right now. Pretty much every club that I go to, every car that I go to,

a lot of people will pair off and go to a closed room. That's not me. I go to the big open room where everyone can come watch and everyone can come join. Wow. You are extreme. Yeah.

So I've evolved, like, I go to the club that I was mentioning earlier. I found two other clubs where I can also go do gangbangs. Now I've even started hosting my own events. You're kidding. And I call them kitty kitty, kitty. I call them kitty,

bang bang. Oh my God, I love that. That's a good title. Oh, my God. Kitty, bang bangs. That's great.

Yeah. And so what I do is I just, I rent a hotel room. Mm-hmm. And I put like an advertisement out on set life and I say, hey, I'm going to eat at this hotel at this time, if you want to come,

RCP. And then I just ask them for a little donation to, like, cover, like I bring food and I bring Lou, condoms and I'm renting the room so I'm just asking them to help cover that cost. Right. And then so that kind of gives me the ability to have a gang bang just basically whenever I want. So that's that's my big kink. I'm extremely submissive.

No, no, we can't get, let's not go past the gangbang yet. Let's talk a little bit about the gangbings. Because guys love nothing more than girls that want to be gangbbing. And it turns out that gangbang porn is like at the top of the list for most women. So a lot of women have that fantasy, right? So they're going to, the women are going to live vicariously through you and the men are going to be horny hearing your stories. So at your kid, because listen, I've had gang bang coordinators on my show because it is hard to set up a gang bang, right? And other girls who have been on my show have told me, like, listen to you get a gang bang together just because six guys showed up doesn't mean it's going to be great.

Like the vibe could be really bad. There's certain guys that know had a role at a gang bang. So like how did you curate your guys? Like how do you coordinate it? and what goes down? Yeah, so it's really easy for me. So for one, like the club has a gangbang room. And so that's kind of like where I started.

Yeah. And it's basically, it's a specific room where there's no door. You can't close the door. And so it's just expected that anybody can come in. And so if you go into this room, you're sort of, I don't know, you just sort of signing up for a gang bang. And so that was, that was really easy for me. I basically, I just walk up the stairs and go in the room.

And then everyone just kind of files in and follows me. and boom, game things. Condoms are always required, obviously, for that. Because there's so much anonymity there. You can't trust anybody because they're there and they're gone. You don't even know their name. You don't know how to contact them or anything. So this definitely has to be, like my husband's always there watching,

making sure everybody has a condom. There's plenty of guys who don't want to wear the condom, who will slip it off. It's called stealthing. They'll have it on at first, and then they'll flip it on without you knowing it, and then go back in. Plenty of guys, they put on a condom,

that's too big and it gets lost. And you said like all these things. So you definitely have to have a protector when you do those kinds of events. What about a fluffer? I know that a lot of times there's a fluffer there. Do you have fluffers at your cage? Yeah. I definitely don't need a fluffer.

I like to do it all. It's almost like a challenge for me to see like how many dicks I can be handling at once. So I'll have, you know, double penetration, one in the mouth, one in each hand kind of deal. Wow. And, yeah. You are extreme. What about the ones, though, that you put on yourself outside of the club? Do you just have a bunch of guys that you know that you've hooked up with and you get them all together?

No. So I just use Fet Life. So I don't know if you're familiar with Fet Life, but you can advertise events on Fet Life. And some sites require you to have a business license before you can advertise events, but Fetlight doesn't. You can just advertise whatever you want. Okay. And so I just put it out there.

And I have 10,000 followers on set life. And so they see it. I give them like a two-week notice. And I usually get like 20 to 30 RSPs, but then only maybe nine show up. No, anyone that throws a party knows it's hard. And that's why gangbangs are hurt too, right? If you want 10 people there, you got to invite 25, right? How many guys has been the biggest that you've, or how many guys have you been, have you invited?

Like the biggest gangbanks? Yeah. So there's also like an adult theater here that's local. it's really popular, and since it's really cheap to get in, that's where I get my biggest crowd. And so I also will advertise, like, events when I'm going there, and so I'll get as many people from Fet Life coming from there as well. And so I think the biggest one that I had, my husband said he estimated it was about

60 guys. What? 60-60. Yeah. What is that called? Gang-bang. I don't even know. That's so much more hardcore than any gang bang I've ever heard.

Yeah, exactly. Gang-bang Extreme. Yeah, that's, yeah. That's, like, yeah, they weren't all, I wasn't fucking all of them, right? Some of them are just watching. Some of them are just getting blow jobs. Some of them are fucking, but it was, like, in the room there was, like, at least 60 people. Interesting.

Now, were you doing this before the weight loss, or did the gangbang thing come after? I had maybe one or two gangbangs, like, before the weight loss, but also before I had gotten really, really heavy. So I was maybe like 260 when I had done a few gangbangs. And then as I got heavier, then I didn't do that anymore. Right. I definitely wasn't as big into it then as I am now. Like now it's verging on an obsession.

Well, I think it's hard because once you get used to something, it was like why you needed two dicks, right? Because you like had a guy that was like really big. And you're like, oh, like, how do I top this? You got to put another one in because you can't really top it. And I think that's what happens. You're like chasing the dragon in a little bit. you have six guys, you're like, and it was great and you love it. What's better than that?

60 guys and have one. You know, what kind of sex? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's like every time, every time I experience something extreme, like then I'm like looking for the next extreme thing. Of course. You're no different than a mountain climber, a rock climber, guy who jumps out of a plane, but you're like you're an adrenaline junkie. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously, it makes sense. And does your husband love that? What is your husband, like what is top of the mountain for your husband? Oh, yeah. He loves that.

He loves, he loves watching me be his little porn star still. Ever since the beginning, that's what his thing was. He likes, he likes to share me. He likes to watch me and join myself. So he likes, he wants to max out how many, how many guys can we get this weekend or how many guys can we get at this event. So that definitely really excites him. And then he likes to be the one who retains me in the end, kind of like, she can get

anyone she wants, but she wants. me kind of vibe, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah. And now you don't ever play with women alone, but have you ever done like an all-female, they don't have female gangbangs, right, but like female orgies, all-female, whatever? Or are you always playing with females like in a couple situation? No, I've never done an all-female thing.

I'm definitely bi, but I definitely prefer men. Obviously. And I, you fuck 60 guys in one night. Yeah. But, no, that's a good idea, though. yeah, maybe that's the next thing I'll try is an all-female group. Oh, okay, like I'm trying to think if I've heard of anything else crazy that maybe you could try. But yeah, you've never done that.

That's interesting. So this club that you go to is, you know, are you guys like so heavily involved? How many times a month do you guys go? Almost every weekend. So three to four times a month. Yeah, hardcore. And then a second club, we also go to that one every weekend. Like two clubs a weekend.

Wow. So two times every week. So you guys are really heavily back into it. Where did you meet Jason at one of these clubs and did you bang him? Was he at one of your parties? I know, wow, he rolls and you roll and your kitty, kitty bang, gang bang. Yeah, so Jason, yeah, I actually did meet him at one of the clubs that I go to every weekend. And he actually told me about this podcast three or four times before I got brave enough to ask him to send me the league so that I could do it.

Yeah, I love that. But did he wind? Did you wind up ever banging him? Did you hook up with him at the club? Oh, yeah. Several times, yeah. Yeah, he's got a good dick. He's got a great body.

He was an older guy, but I remember him sent a lot of times guys don't send him in picks, but he did. And I get guys picks more now because people like to sort of put a visual with the episode. And he looks killer, especially for his age. He looked killer for 25, but he was like way older, but his body was like perfect, right? Yeah. No, he's absolutely, he has really good stamina. So he's absolutely fun

the playlist, yeah. Yeah, well, that's what my gangbang girls say. The thing that makes a gang bang not good is like guys who can't fuck and fuck hard. You know, if you're at a gang bang and you're a gang bang girl, like, you want to get railed. You know, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Sometimes it'll get to the point at the guilt theater where, you know, they get stage fright. And so it'll sometimes that the gangbings will usually end with 10 or 15 guys all just wanting blow jobs. Yeah. And so I'm sitting there sucking dick, but I'm not getting fucked. And you're disappointed. I'm like, okay, like, it's got to be reciprocal, right? Like, I love the subject. I love the fuck, too.

Yeah. No, that's what I've heard from girls like you. That's really what it's about. So you've got to be ready. And listen, I remember when I first started doing my show, I was very surprised, like, a guy's in a place or a gang bang or adult theater or a swingers club and there's all these girls around and they can't get it up. But it actually is very common.

Like you said, it's state right. Because if you think about it, it's probably is scary. No different than you said, like, on that. first time. You wanted that girl to lead you because you don't know what the fuck you're doing. So I get why some guys get stage fright, right? Yeah, totally. And that's one of the goals that I had when I started doing my kitty, kitty bang bangs is I found that when I was at that as, or sorry, when I was at the theater, that a lot of guys were just really nervous. It was like the first time doing kind of group. People were watching them and they didn't really like the crowd.

And so on the kitty kitty, kitty bang bang events, we limited. it to only 10 people so that people who if they want to like venture into it so not just men but women like I've had a few women that have come and it's like their first game thing right and so they're able to venture venture into it with a lot less pressure and I'm a very friendly person and it's just like just a very personal sort of vibe when they come to those and I've said I've had lots of people to tell me like oh my gosh I've never done that I was scared and you made me feel so comfortable and I really like being someone that can can can make someone feel comfortable because I've been in that position where I was uncomfortable and needed someone to make me comfortable. And so now that

I'm where I am, I want to sort of give back, you know, and do that for someone else. Yeah, you want to help that part of you that somebody else helped. You're like empathetic that way. I love that. That's awesome. And probably guys really appreciate that because I think a lot of people don't give a shit about anyone else, even if they were in your position. So what happens when a girl shows up to the gangbang? Is she there to fuck all the guys too? Or is she just watching? What is that girl that attends your gang bang get out of it. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's only happened a few times, but in those three times, the girl is definitely there to be a gangbang girl as well. Yeah. She wants to be on the bed next to me and the guys are sort of choosing between us or going between us. And then she's just feeling safe because I have my protector. I have two protectors that come to those parties. And so she's feeling safe that there are people there are watching out.

And it's just a really great first time for a girl who wants to experience a gangbanger. but as nervous or scared. Yeah, I'm sorry. I could probably, I could just pitch you as that, the perfect person to go if you're, if you're a girl looking, because it sounds like that's the safest place to do it first time because you're going to be super cool with her. You've coordinated the whole thing, right? You know how she feels and you're going to guide her.

So how many girls have you walked through it about, just a handful? Just three because we haven't, I haven't doing it very long. and it is hard to find the women that want to do it. So just three so far, but it's definitely, I'm starting to try to reach out to more girls and make that more of a thing. Yeah, I could imagine. What else are you into that you haven't talked about? You just threw gangbangs out there. I could, I could have just talked to you just about the gangbanks, but I'm sure there's so much more.

Yeah. Yeah, so I'm into electro play. That's one of my big things. My husband got me something called a Violet Wand for my birthday a couple years ago. you plug it into the wall and has like a volume knob that you turn it up and down and basically you're being shocked. Oh my God. Is it painful?

Yeah. But you're into pain because you're into BDSM. Like what does he put? Does he put that inside you? Does he like? Right. So I'm very into pain like to have it at top volume. Oh my goodness.

But you can turn it way down to where it just feels like a little tingle, right? So it's whatever scale you're on. But basically there's two modes. So one mode is they put the electric like under your butt cheek. So you are electrified and you don't feel anything until someone tries to touch you. And then when you get close, then it jumps from you to them and then that makes the shock feeling, right? Wow. And then so there's little tools that they dangle over you that will like little metal things or whatever.

And so the electricity will jump and then it will give you that shock. And then the other mode is that the tool is electrified and then it jumps from the tool to you. Wow. And that one's a little bit less intense that way. And so like when I do it, like I have it turned all the way up. And like the next day I'll have like red trails all in my skin where I had been electric shocked the night before. Can you have an orgasm through that? Is it like if you just put it in just like it on your clit or something?

Like when you orgasm from it, what are you doing with it to get that orgasm? So I actually now I orgasm from pain. And so it does not have to be on my clit or anyone you might have to tell you. If I'm feeling like a certain level of pain, I will just orgasm like spontaneously. And the same thing happens when I'm on the cross and I'm getting an impact. Interesting. If it hits a certain level, I just will be on the cross and there'll be a puddle under me. With no touch, nothing touching even that area.

It could be like pain on your arm is going to stimulate. Wow, that's hardcore. You're lucky. You got like this direct connection that you could do that. That's like hands free. Yeah. So lucky. because there was a really long time in my life where I couldn't have an orgasm at all.

Really? You went from not being able to have an orgasm to being able to have an orgasm without even being touched. Was this before you entered the lifestyle you couldn't have an orgasm? That was when I was at my biggest, at my most obese. I couldn't even masturbate myself to an orgasm. Like it was just wasn't done. Wow. Wow.

Interesting. What a turnaround. Absolutely. I was so happy. I could imagine because it's scary to feel like you lost that. For real. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so you're into electric play. What else were you going to tell me about? So I like to be choked. And so recently had my first experience where I actually got choked all the way unconscious. Oh my God. This is where I'm sorry. I have to always do my PSA, okay, for people that are into choked. Okay. Sure. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have to always do my PSA. Okay. Okay. Okay. I just get so scared for people that are into this because it's like, it just by accident, someone could fucking kill you. It's like life or death, life or death, not orgasm or no orgasm. Like the stakes are like death. I don't know.

It just is it worth it? Who do you let you choke you out? Anybody? No, no, no. No. So in all this time, I've only let. So I like to be, so there's two kinds of choking, right? There's one where you're actually going to go unconscious.

And there's another one that I call it. more, it's abuse of the throat. Uh-huh. And so when people are doing the abuse of the throat, like, I'm definitely more open to more people doing that. And then when I start to feel like they're being too abusive to like my windpipe or whatever, I tap them on the arm and they stop. Yeah.

But this other one, they, you push on the, on the size of the throat. So it's actually restricting your blood flow, not your breathing. So you're breathing the whole time. And there's only ever been one person that I was okay with doing that. And it was a friend of a friend. So my friend was very trusted and he's known that guy for 10 years and he was very trusted.

Right. And he's been choking girls out for 10 years. So he's very experienced. He knows exactly what he's doing. And I felt that I was in no danger. Right. And that was something that I really, it was something I really wanted to experience.

So you feel the same way I do really or else you would have just tried it with anybody. I mean, you obviously know like, I'm not sure I'll let anyone do that to me. But so this guy was the right one to experience. it. Was it amazing? It was actually really scary. I didn't know what to expect. And now that, in hindsight, now that I know what to expect, I definitely want to do it again because it was, I don't know

if you've ever been like so, so high on marijuana that you don't even know where you are. That's exactly what I felt like, right? So as like, I was, I was feeling like the tangle in my lips and I was like, okay, like, maybe I should tap his arm. Like, I don't know like how this is going to happen. And the next thing I know, I have no idea where I am. I have no idea what's happening. My chief is like in a wall and I'm getting fucked in the ass, and I don't know where I am. Wow.

But it feels good. It felt really good, but I had a panic moment because I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, of course. And so, like, in that moment, I, like, got out of the situation and left the room. And then after I calmed down and figured out, like, what had happened, then I was, like, disappointed that I had left and wished that I had stayed. And so now I want to do it again so that. this time I know what to expect and when I wake up and I have that confusion and then I'll know to just sit through it and then I'll be okay. Yeah. And I guess you knew enough about it

beforehand, right, that you like know how to do it and not die because you do hear, I only hear about the celebrities that have died from it because you're like, how else are you going to know? But there is people kill themselves doing it and it's, are they doing that same thing where they're like pushing so there's no blood flow and you just have to stop at a certain point that it doesn't kill the person and they just go into that place? Where's that line? Do you know? Yeah.

So the person who did that to me, he just basically knows that as soon as your muscles go limp, you have to let go. You have to let go like right then. Oh, okay. If you continue to hold on after they, because when your muscles go limp, then you've passed out. Right. So that's, that's when you need to stop. Right.

And so it's important, it's important because you're unconscious. You can't tell them to stop. You have to trust that they're going to know that and that they're going to stop. Yeah. Oh, my God, scary. Okay, what else are you into? That scares me. Yeah, so there's all of that, all the BDSM, the wax, in-puts, the Shabari. I think that's, oh, so this is a little more extreme. I'm into C&C. Oh, I've heard that this, too. Tell me the scenarios that you like, because I've heard crazy scenarios for the scene. Yeah. So consensual moments, I actually have for he does take down. What is that?

And this happened to me yet, but it's definitely on my list and trying to get my husband to coordinate it with my friend. But basically, they'll just have me out and about doing, like, whatever I'm doing. And my friends will have a group of friends and come by in a white van and basically kidnap me and take me away in the van and fuck me. And so that's definitely something that I have been wanting for quite some time. But it takes some coordination. and so it's just been taking some time to get that. Yeah, it's funny. I've been doing my show for 12 years,

and I haven't heard a lot of that kind of play. It didn't even know what it was. And recently I had a woman named Jasmine on, and she's extreme to really hardcore, and she's got like a guy on the side of her husband. And what she loves about him is he's into the whole consent, non-consent thing. And he, like, puts her in the trunk and ties her up and kidnaps her.

Like, oh, my God, I have clashtophobia. I'd fucking die. But I think a lot of people, it kind of is like the rape fantasy, right? A lot of people kind of have that and something. Obviously, you're submissive. So the submissive part of you would be into that, the pain part. I could see why it's something that kind of plays into everything that you're into, right, all in one? Yeah.

But takes it to a whole other level. Yeah, definitely. And like a gang bang, because if there's five guys driving the van, they're all rape you? I don't even want to say the rape work. Exactly. They all do you, right? Yeah, yeah. Definitely.

Oh my God. You're going to set that up. I have another girl on who's, she's as extreme as you. Her name is Casey. And when she, I first got her to come on my show because she left a message on my Confessions Hotline saying, hi, my name is Casey. She sounds like a baby. Oh, and I used to drive her out my friend in a van.

And we used to just pick up random strangers like on the side of the road and they come in and fuck me and we just do it all night long. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's like a good idea for a kitty, kitty gang bang. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah, so it's kind of like the same thing. Now, how does your, so obviously, how long, it's been like four years, a couple, like,

how long have you, has it been since this whole turnaround and this new, like you said, it's kind of like a sexual revolution for you, right? How many years are you into it? I would say like three, almost three years. I sort of started getting back into the hardcore stuff. Right. And it just started little and grew and grew. And now it's everyone tells me I'm crazy.

Now you're just extreme. Listen, that's how people feel about, like I said, that guy that climbs mountains and stuff. Everyone's sort of wired differently, right? And so this is just the way that you're wired. Were you always like that an extremist? No, I don't think I, like maybe I was at heart, but I never had the confidence to let happen. I remember at a very young age having a lot of really deviant sexual thought and being super, super ashamed of them because my family, they were churchgoers, and I lived in a really small conservative town in the Midwest. And so I just remember just being very ashamed and hiding like all of those thoughts that I had.

And then when I met my husband, he made me feel very unashamed. And so I was able to share all of those things with him, but I still wouldn't share them with anyone else. and now with the sort of a surrogens of non-monotomy and the lifestyle, it's all over TikTok, it's all over the place. And people are much more free with it. It's much more acceptable now. And through cell life and whatnot, I've sort of found that my fantasies of C&C and gangbangs and pain and all these things are more, like quite common. Yeah. And so it gave me, it just gave me this freedom, like this open.

openness to just sink into my sexuality and whatever I feel is not wrong and just go try it and see how it goes. And if I'm too much for somebody, they can go find less, right? I don't have to be for everybody, but there's going to be somebody out there who's also into it. And so I can just be competent in it and be myself. It's been, it's just been such an awakening. It's really great.

And listen, the most important person to accept you for all of you and everything that you're into, it would be your husband and you got that guy when he sounds like a really great guy and that everything else that you talked about with him. So you got like a really good guy right there next to you, not feeling, making you feel bad about what you're into because women are just as horny as guys. They're into all kinds of things too. And I just think that they keep it into wraps because there's a lot of stigma attached to and they don't, the last thing they want is like their guy or whoever to judge them. So it's like it really shows that if you create like a safe space in a relationship, whether it's the man or a woman, to allow your partner to be completely

honest and you accept them for who they are. Like, the sky's the limit, right? That's what it's about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love your story, Kitty. And the last question I want to ask you, because you're so into having an audience and you're so into doing all this stuff. And nowadays, everybody's cashing in on it because they can. A lot of times my audience is like, oh, and other only fans, like some of the older ones, I can't get what the fucking times are like putting down people that have only fans. It's like, this is like, this. is just what everybody does. Okay, like it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't, it's not phony, but, you know, people can, so they're doing it. Did you ever wind up setting up in OnlyFans or anything like that?

Are you into that kind of a thing or no? Oh, you do. Yeah. So I, I set up actually OnlyFans, Loyal fans, and Fansley. Okay. Loyal fans is not very popular. I don't have a lot of followers. And then Fansley, I just recently joined last week. The Only Fans I've been on longer, but it's really, really hard to get content on OnlyFans because they have really strict rules about signing waivers and whatnot. So I've definitely been trying to transition over to Fansley. Okay, so let's give out your Fansley so that we could get some people over to your Fansley. Fuck Onlyfans. Go over to your Fansley. Give a shout out to your Fansley and make sure to send me a link and I'm going to post it in the description. And then also send me some hot picks for my Patreon. Of course, the ones of you

looking now, but also do the befores because I think that that's super interesting. Yeah. Okay. So what's your fans like? Okay. So my fansley is Kitty H-I-T-T-Y-H-U-M-P-P-K-I-N-F. Okay. So I am going to put that in the description. And thanks so much for calling in. It was fascinating. Oh, and the other thing I'm going to tell you is I have a Discord channel. It's a place where you could go in and post anything. So you could post a video, a teaser video to get people over to Fansley. And I have over 2400 people on my Patreon. So it's a great place for you to go and advertise. over there and you could put X-rated stuff there. Like for my Patreon, people send me R-rated stuff, like hot stuff, but if you want to do a little bit more X-rated stuff, you could post that yourself on Discord, or you could send me that stuff and I'll post it on Discord for when your episode airs, okay? So I'll send you the free link to that. That's free for you.

Everybody else pays to get it. Okay. Thanks so much for calling in. Can be a great story. Of course. Thanks. All right. Thank you.

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