Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1391 - Hayley Started Having MFM Threesomes and Swinging Solo in her Twenties

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Hayley started swinging solo in her twenties and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when she decided to get into the lifestyle solo, where she met the two guys for her first MFM threesome and  exactly what went down, the second mfm threesome she had and the impact play that went down, how and why she’s trying to see up a gangbang, the first mff threesome she had and exactly what went down, the guy she is now dating from one of her threesomes and how they are navigating the swinger world together, the kinky things they’ve tried together, the first time they went to a swinger club together, the jealousy that came up for her and how they navigated through it, the full swap they had and exactly what went down, the second couple they swapped with and what went down and how and why she also got jealous, how she likes to be degrade as well as how she enjoys people watching her plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of HAYLEY plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2610-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I mean how shy can she be she got into the lifestyle solo she wound up meeting a guy though who she's been hanging out with for a while and she talks about all of their experiences she talks about the experiences she had before him she's had threesomes with men she made that should happen. She loves being spit-roasted. She's had a threesome with a woman. She's done a lot of swapping. She loves that. She realizes she's an exhibitionist. They've been to swing her clubs. She's also been to kink clubs. She loves impact play and degradation. We talk about that too. We get her whole life story, all the stuff that she's into, all of their experiences together. We talk a lot about her relationship with this guy because she has felt some jealousy with this guy since they've been together

and they've only been together for five months. But he's super cool. I actually really like I think you're going to like him too. She explains how they navigated jealousy when it's come up for her and all that kind of good stuff. She's super cute and hot. I have pictures over on my Patreon. You can see her there. But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Haley.

Hi, Haley. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Doing well. Thank you for having me on. Well, Haley, you tag yourself as a young woman who recently got into the lifestyle and you've been doing all kinds of things.

Are you doing it solo? And how old are you? So I'm 26. I was doing it solo up until like a couple months ago. I now have a partner who is helping me do a lot of things that I want to try. But up until a couple months ago, it was just me. Oh my God. Okay.

So are you what people call a unicorn? I have not unicorn for a couple yet. Playing with couples always kind of seemed a little like weird to me. I'd always be worried about crossing a baffle. boundary. So like, if it's all like, you know, just regular people or non-couples, then I'm like, let's play. Let's do stuff. But when there's like an emotional connection that I'm not a part of, I always get very like nervous. I'm like, oh, I don't want to do anything. I don't want to overstep. Yeah, that's interesting. But, you know, I've never heard someone say that. But when you

say it, it completely makes sense. You know what I mean? Because like, I know that like when I'm with a a girl and her guy, like, I make it a point to not talk to the guy barely at, you know, you never want to be, like, make someone else feel uncomfortable that you're doing anything, right? And like if you're actually fucking the guy, the girl's guy, that's even more to worry about. You know what I mean? Let alone just talking to them. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So like, I mean, have you ever been married or anything? I mean, you're super young, but some people in other parts of the country get married young. Like, have you ever been married or anything like that? I have to ask. No, I have not been married. Okay. So you're young. What made you decide to get into the lifestyle in your 20s? Like who,

what kind of girl decides to do that? So I had two previous relationships that were pretty long-term, and I always knew that there was, like, some aspects of the king community that interested me. And then when I got out of my long-term relationship, I was like, okay, you know what? It's me time. Like, let's seriously explore some stuff. Let's just hop into it. Okay. Keep going.

Yeah. So I got out of the long-term relationship last April, and I immediately joined a kink website, and I had just begun posting photos, videos. At first, I was never really, like, sure if I was ever going to meet up with someone. And then I did end up meeting up with someone in person. We played a couple times, not very, not very long-term. But we were working on a threesome for me. and I actually found someone who tried to plan it with

and then that first partner kind of just went away on his own. So threesome search started all back over again. But yeah, I mean, I knew coming into this, I wanted to try playing with multiple people and multiple partners at once. And so like, that was my first goal. I was like threesome now. But wait, let's go back a little bit.

Like when you said you always knew you were interested in King and the King community, What in that king community are you talking about? Are you talking about three sons or are you talking about like other kinds of kings like BDSM or flogging or shit like that? Yeah, definitely the impact part of BDSM always stood out to me, some degradation stuff. So, yeah, those things definitely interested me. Okay, and you never brought that up with any of your two other guys you were with before. So I did, but like obviously everyone has their own thing.

So I think because it wasn't their thing, like it was harder for them to get into or it would happen like once. And they'd like, okay, that was enough. And I'm like, no, I want it more. Yeah. Okay. So when you were single, you're like, this is my time to go and fulfill all my fantasies. So the three, so you met that guy and you did stuff with him? Like, did you do impact and degradation and stuff like that?

Did you get to live out some of that stuff with him before he disappeared? Yeah, I started. Yeah. I started to delve into some of the impact stuff with him. Just a little bit more like, Rolfsinking with hands, some belt stuff, but not super far into it.

He was really helping me again try to get a threesome under my belt. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So now when he disappeared and you needed to now get it yourself, like did you make that happen with two guys or another girl? Because I know you said you haven't been with a couple. So how do you make a threesome happen or what kind of threesome?

did you have? Yeah, so I've got a couple threesomes now. Primarily, I've done it with two guys, but I just recently had one with a guy and a woman. But the first threesome I had, I had found a guy. We, you know, were hooking up a few times. And he was like, my birthday's coming up. Like, we should try to set up that threesome. And he was like, do you want to find the person? Because at the time, I was still very, like, intimidated and I was like, I want to know that they're not like a weirdo. Like I want to be able to speak to them and see how they behave and talk and such. But it got to a point where we were kind of like, we're trying to make this thing happen this weekend. So I started messaging a bunch of guys off the site that I'm on and just having conversations. And there was this guy who was very close to my age,

very close to the age of the partner I was currently with. And he was like, listen, you tell me when, where I'll be there and it happened the next day but yeah I found both of them off of the same site that I'm on and they're both similar in age both great people not total weirdos at all but yeah at one point I was like I'm trying to make this threesome happen in 24 hours so it's like oh my god what were those guys like you hit the chat they were so excited like what would like paint the picture of the guys and like what was it about them that you liked yeah I mean I think the first thing for me was that they were close to my age. As I've progressed, like age doesn't really matter to me anymore, but I think I was more comfortable just because those first two

guys were my age. So I felt super at ease. They were very much like me. Very easygoing, very nonchalant. And it was overall just like a really great experience. But yeah, I mean, it wasn't anything like super kinky, but it was just, hey, let's just get together, see what happens. And yeah, I had a threesome. How was it? And what went down? It was amazing. I'm so mad. I recorded it on my phone and then I broke that phone months later and I was like, no, my first threesome gone. But it was great. I found out I love being spit roasted. So. Okay. Was that your first time? Yes. I didn't even know what spit roasted was. Spit roasting was before I started doing my show. Okay. Go on. Yeah. Not a lot of interaction between those two, but a lot of spit roasting, just a lot of, you know, being on top and, you know, sucking the other one. That was, that was really great. The next threesome that I had was a little rougher. What do you mean? But in a good way, in a good way? In a good way. It didn't really go as planned. You know, some things happened

during. And I was like, oh, that's not great. I feel like we should stop. So, but I'll say this. I got to meet someone who is pretty great and has helped me have better threesome's. The reason I had after that was with my new partner and one of his friends. And that one was also just amazing. That one was rougher, like just rougher sex, which I kind of prefer. We messed around with some impact stuff, both of them at the same time. It was great. So earlier that day, I guess they had went to, you know, a kink store and picked up some impact tools because I really hadn't dabbled much into it.

So they were testing out a whole bunch of things on me to see what I. liked, which was really fun. We tried a flogger, which I'm a big fan of. I have yet to actually try so they could spit roast in me a bunch, which again, love. But I've yet to try DP, which is something I'm definitely looking for. With any luck, the same partner and his friend will be DPing me tomorrow. Oh, you're kidding. Well, that is it going to be your first time? Yes, that would be my first time. Okay. And is that on your bucket list? Oh, 100%. I have wanted to try that for a while. I have wanted to try gang bang, so I'm in the

process of trying to get that set up. Now, do you always know you were into all this stuff or is it like, oh, now that you opened up Pandora's box, you're like, oh, let me do this, let me do that. Or were you always kind of like, always, like, knowing that you were, like, these were fantasies of yours. Yeah, these were definitely fantasies that I had and that I knew I wanted to do. Mm-hmm. Always. Always. Like gangbank.

Always. I remember finding out when I first talked to this woman who was into, she created a porn site that, you know, gang bang porn was very, uh, highly downloaded by women. Like, it's one of women's biggest fantasies. And I was surprised because I've never had that fantasy. That's just me. But a lot of women have. I think it's like Nikki Glazer, that comedian girl. She always goes in Howard and talks about how she's like dying for, you know, that's her favorite thing is gang bang porn or like lesbian domination porn. But like everyone has like different things that they think about. But a lot of girls apparently think about having a gang bang. And is that, now that, I mean,

And you're the type that's not just going to think about it. You're going to make it happen, correct? Yeah, I'm actively trying to make it happen. My current partner, he just wants to see me do a whole bunch of things that I want to try. Like, it's so crazy. Like, after we do one thing, he's like, okay, so like, what next? Like, what do you want to do now? So he's been, like, helping me try to set up a gang bang because it's just something I want.

I knew I always wanted to try that. I think the idea of just having, like, more. multiple guys just focusing on you, just wanting to fuck you. I think it's just something about it is so hot to me, just having like all the attention on me, just being so desired by multiple guys all at once. I don't know, something about it just makes me go,

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Use my code strictly to get 10% off your order. Or I made it real easy. Just go to the description, click on the link, and use code strictly for 10% off. I think it's just something about it is so hot to me. Just having all the attention on me, just being so desired by multiple guys all at once. I don't know. Something about it just makes me go, oh, please. Yeah, I think a lot of women feel the same way.

That's what it's all about. And I remember one's doing a poll on Patreon. I'm like, who do you see in the power position in a gang bang? Because I was like, I bet you a lot of people, some people think it's like the guy, like they're all taking turns and they got this girl and they're doing whatever they want with her. But really, when I've talked to the women that are doing the gang bang, you know what I mean? It's really they are empowered by it. They are in the power position.

They are working these guys. You know what I mean? These guys are there to please her. And it is a sort of empowering thing for women, whereas sometimes I think people might think the opposite. Okay. let me ask you this, how many like threesome, since that's like your thing, and how many have you had and have they always been with two guys? Because you did say I haven't been with a couple that like each other, but I don't care if it's a couple that are just hanging out. So maybe you've had a threesome with a guy and a girl? I have recently had a threesome with a guy and a girl. So that consisted of me and the partner that I've recently been exploring with. And this woman, we met at a swingers club. Yeah. And, you know, we met her. She seemed really cool. And then, you know, we had been talking on and off just her and I, him and her.

And then one day we were like, hey, like, let's all get together. Let's see where this goes. And so that happened like two Saturdays ago. Oh, you're kidding. It was, oh, yeah. It was amazing. It was my first time getting to go down on a woman, which was a good experience. It was really fun.

She said that I was really good, but I questioned that. How can the first time or be good? Well, you know, you know what feels good on you. maybe, you know, I don't know. That's true. I guess I have a little insider knowledge. But yeah, I definitely want to explore more with women a little bit by curious. But that was my first experience going down on a woman. I've had a woman go down on me, which felt amazing.

But I haven't really done much more with like playing with women. The three-so I had, we just kind of rotated back and forth between pleasuring the partner, sorry, the male partner, and then, you know, occasionally just going down on each other. but it was still really hot. It was incredibly hot to watch him go down on her. I was like, oh, yes, this is a new thing for me. Isn't that interesting? I don't know. Something about it.

Yeah. Like, it's kind of like, I mean, it's not just like, you don't like, I feel like it's the same thing for guys that are very into seeing like their girls be with other guys. It's not about them like being into the guy. It has nothing to do with that. But just watching their partner like in the heat of passion from, you know, sort of a step back. instead of like in the action. Sometimes it's like a really hot thing to experience.

Yeah. He was going down on her and he just looked over at me and I was like, oh yeah, keep looking at me. This is great. Okay. So you enjoyed what, maybe you're a little cuck queen. Maybe.

I mean, I haven't had much experience with it, but. But this is a guy that you're, yeah. Let me ask you. Do you actually like him more than a hookup buddy or is he just a fun guy that you're like, because he's sound like a relationship girl.

You have been into other long-term. relationships. Do you think, like, do you and this guy hang more than just in the bedroom? A little bit. That started to happen a little bit more recently for us, and it's getting more emotionally charged than it was at the start. But at the beginning, it was very casual. It was like, the first time I ever met him was I invited him to a threesome. Wait, so let's talk about how you met him, where, on one of your apps? Yep. I'm only on really one site. It's FetLife. So I, I, found him also on set life. He was considered for the first threesome,

but I think he was out of town or something and it just didn't end up working. And then the next time I was like, hey, you know, you're going to be in the same town as us, like, you know, are you around? I know it's last minute. And he was like, I could be there in about 45 minutes. Wow. And then was that,

so that was that a threesome you met him? Yeah. Okay. And was that one of the good threesomes or another threesome you haven't told me about? No, that was, That was the one that didn't go quite as planned. Okay, but he was good? Yeah, definitely.

I mean, he's got to be if I continue to see him. Well, you got to explain because you left that off like it didn't go as planned. I don't remember you telling me that you then hooked up with one of the guys and now we're seeing him. Yeah, so I don't know if it was just he was a little rougher or what, but I started my period during it. Freaked out one of the guys and he was just like, it doesn't bother me much. we can keep going if you want. And I was like, okay,

I mean, I'm a little freaked out, but I guess. And then he was like so kind about it afterwards. You're like, listen, it happens.

Like, don't be embarrassed. And I was like, yeah, I know. Easier said than done. But he was like, I definitely want to see you again.

Like, let me know when you are, are free. And yeah, I think we like got together like the week after that, just solo. Mm-hmm.

And what's his story? How old is he? And what's his like, history in the lifestyle. Yeah, so he is in his mid-30s and he's been in the lifestyle for about five years. So it's got a lot more experience than me for sure, which has definitely helped because like we'll go to some places and I'm just so like shy and timid. Like first couple times I went to Smiggers Club with him. I was like, I don't know what to do. And he's like, just talk to people. And like he's really great about pushing me to just talk to people and even just talk about like my

experiences and what I like and what I don't like, because I have a problem with that being like, oh, I'm sorry, I don't want to, I don't want to play with you, or I don't feel comfortable doing that. I have a little bit of a problem with just saying those things. So he's really helped with that. But again, he's also helped just like one by one check off fantasies for me. Like I said, he'll literally be like, okay, now what do you want to do next? Oh my God. Like what else do you want to do?

I'm going to go back to like your experiences at a Springer's club because we haven't talked about that. We talked about the kink club, but real quick, like, what kinds of things have you checked off the box with him? So, more threesome with a woman, a little bit of swapping, a lot of impact play. A lot of, like, breath play and degradation, which, again, I was always into. What's breath, breath or breast play? What play? Breath. Breath, what's that? Yeah. So, like, a lot of choking and everything. Oh, good. Yeah. At least you know him. I had one woman on recently or a couple months back and she talked about like just meeting a hookup

in a parking lot and letting him choke her out and I was like I'm sorry and I went off like you know I go on my tangents about choking and somebody made a comment like that's ridiculous like why should you? I'm like if you think that that's ridiculous to tell someone not to let a stranger choke them out during sex you're so you're fucking ridiculous

but I mean at least you know this guy I mean I think it's okay as long as you know you're with a real partner that you wouldn't do it with like a guy you just met I just hope not no no that is and that's the other thing is like I found that there's not many people who are into that. So like you like it's not something you bring up on the first time. At least not for myself.

Yeah, I had a guy break up with his like his love of his life because she was she really wanted to, she was into all that kind of stuff and he couldn't he couldn't do it. You know, he just couldn't do it. So you guys are a good match. You and your guy because he's into all the stuff that you are right? Because a lot of swingers aren't necessarily into like the whole kink thing and impact play and degradation, but he is. Yeah, yeah, I somehow found like a weird crossover, but I'm happy.

He found it too. I mean, you both kind of like, I'm sure, like, you know, has he ever had like a met woman in the lifestyle and all the years that he's been in that he, you know, you know, maybe started to see as much as you. Do you know? I actually don't know. Like, he'll just tell me like one-off situations that he's had with people, like, when we meet them.

Yeah. He'll explain, like, how he met them and what they did. but I don't really know too much about any of his past partners. Do you know if he's ever been in any long-term relationships? I think a few, but yeah, I don't, I haven't really gone into that much on that side with him. You did say you have a problem speaking up. You obviously don't ask as many questions as I do. Oh, yeah, no.

I'm like, I'm not trying to be nosy, I promise. Like, I wasn't, like, weird about how it comes across. Yeah, but I mean, you never really, I don't think it comes across as anything except you're interested in the person. and like asking them questions. You never asked him like if he's ever been married or if he's ever had a long-term relationship with a girl or anything like that? No.

I mean, some of that info he's offered up. Like he's mentioned he's never been married and stuff. Yeah. Newsflash, guys do like to be asked questions. You know, it's like a, it shows a form of interest to somebody. It's not being nosy. It's actually being interested. It's not bad.

You could do it. But I get it. You already talked about you being that, that's the way you roll, you know? So, but I mean, listen, And he's just as lucky to have found somebody because I know a lot of single guys in the lifestyle. And a lot of times it's hard for them to meet like a partner in crime, a female partner in crime, you know. And he has one.

And it must be fun for the both of you to sort of navigate together as opposed to solo, right? Yeah, it definitely is. And it wasn't something that I was like actively looking for. It just snuck up on me. Yeah. Because before him, I had, you know, like kind of rotated, never really at the same time. but I had rotated through like three partners and those were all like super casual like one guy I would like I don't know maybe text them once a month like we would just go to parties when they

happened was really it right and now I'm like talking to this guy every day but that's okay I mean maybe you're like you know are you open to a relationship if it were to go that way I think I am growing a lot more like the reason I got on my last relationship was it just felt like super stuck and, you know, just like walking in place. And again, I wasn't great emotionally either. So like that probably was a big part of why I was like, I just feel horrible in this relationship because I also wasn't bringing up anything or talking about anything. But yeah, this current guy is not going to let me get away with that. Because he's the one that pushes you to talk, right? He's the one that can. Yeah, yeah, that's good for you. That's like a much better match for somebody like you. There's always a like the opposite to track thing. I think, I believe. in that, right? And so his strength is that he does get you to talk because you're not typically a talker. And that's not good in a relationship just so you know. Oh, yeah, no, I'm painfully aware

of that. But yeah, no, he's not going to let me get away with that. And wait. And you know what? Being in the lifestyle is actually so good for talking because you got to talk about so much shit. You know what I mean? Like, look at this person. Maybe should I go with that? You know what I mean? Like there's a lot of talking that is involved in being in the lifestyle. So that helps you too in your relationship. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so continue on with this stuff. So he's gotten you to have three since he's taking you to Swinger Clubs.

Why don't we talk a little bit about your experiences there? I'm assuming that's where you've done some swapping. I don't know. Yeah. So that was definitely where I've only done some swapping. So we go to the same one. My knowledge is only like one in Connecticut. And so the first time I was like really nervous and he was like, it's totally fine if all we do is just like talk to someone.

And like this place has like a level on the basement where it's just like a huge like open playroom. And so like that first time we didn't really do anything with anyone. We just, you know, went down in the room and played with each other, which was still really great. It was still awesome to like watch everyone down there. Watching people was so hot. I was like just knowing I was being watched also was amazing. The second time, I think the same thing kind of happened. Actually, I had like a weird like jealousy thing.

Oh, that's interesting. Let's talk about that. Yeah, I went into it, like, totally ready to do stuff. At least I thought. And then, you know, we were upstairs having to drink. And we were just talking. And he was talking about someone who was there that he knew and he mentioned something. And I don't know, just something. The way he said it, basically he was just like, hey, like, we've played before. She may just like come over, just a heads up. Yeah. And like just start to do stuff. Quick question, though. Just so I want to wait, just quick question. Is this? very early on when you first met him or was this like after a few months recently that you felt this way? This was pretty, I would probably say pretty early on. Okay, that makes sense because you know what I mean? You're okay. So he tells you about this other woman. Go on. Yeah. And like when we were talking about it, all of a sudden my body just went, mm, no, I don't. Yeah. And yeah, and it was a weird thing. And so on the ride home, you brought it up and wouldn't let me drop it, of course.

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I said, I don't know something about it. I just did not feel like doing that that night that after that. And so then we went back and again, there was some more people there that he had known, really great couple that we met. And so we actually started to like soft swap then. I felt a lot more comfortable. The people out there were, I don't think I'd met the first woman that he was talking about the night where I was like, I don't want to do.

anything with anyone else right now. But, you know, I talked to the other couple and they were just really great. They, husband and wife, they're phenomenal. We actually want to get together with them outside of the club. It just life happens and hasn't planned it yet. But yeah, her and I, we switched. We were, you know, just blowing, I was blowing her husband and she was blowing my partner. And that was just so hot too. Like, I kept looking over and she was just amazing. That was, I think also the the first night I had a woman go down on me. She went down on me for a little bit, which was amazing. That was an experience.

And were they super hot? I'm assuming you were attracted to them. Oh, yeah. No, both him and her. They were amazing. They were so hot. Like I said, we just, we want to get together with them outside of a swingers club just to, you know, get some fun on our own.

But life happens and we haven't gotten to that point yet. Yeah, I got it. Now wait, did that girl that you were jealous have ever come over or no? No, I don't think so. Okay. And did you guys ever discuss anything further about that? Or did it just like never happen again? So it's not that big of a deal really.

Yeah, so I had like another jealous moment. And again, we kind of just talked through it. And again, like, it's kind of weird. I haven't really been able to pinpoint like a specific reason. Well, let's try to pinpoint it for you. Well, let's try to pinpoint it for you. Why don't you explain the second time what happened? So the second time, you know, we were, we met this couple.

They were super great. And she was interested in both of us. She was just like, you are so pretty. I want to touch you. Like, please, may I? They were into both of us. So I don't know. It wasn't that.

But, you know, he started to spank her and everything. And I kind of felt like a little, a little like twinge of jelly. I was like, okay. And then like, even after that, I told him, like, so after he was on spaking her, he was spanking me. And I told him, I said something about it. I just felt like it had to be better in a way. Like, take more or take harder heads. I don't know, but I started to feel like a little bit of jealousy when he was spanking her.

And then, yeah, after that, we transitioned over to a bed. And then I started to, you know, ride her partner. and they were starting to do stuff. And I don't know. Like, I really don't know because I now have watched him fuck another woman. And that was totally fine. I was, you know, into it. I was watching.

I was like, just don't stop looking at me. This is great. Yeah. But that time. Yeah. But at that time, I was like, hmm, like, okay. I feel like I'm just kind of taking one for the team here, like writing your husband. It was like distracting you.

Yeah. You weren't feeling totally cool with it for some reason. Now, when you talked about it, with him? Like, what did you, what, like, what was that conversation like? Because he's more bit in the lifestyle for longer. So he probably has experience in this realm, right? Yeah. And he, so he definitely started to remind me lately that it's like, listen, like, when these things are happening, like, it is just physical. Yeah. Which I get, but sometimes it's in there. And then I'm like, okay, great. I'm like, now I'm like, damn, she's got a better ass than me.

Yeah. I'm like, physical or what? Well, listen, can I just explain something? Like, I mean, you, how long you know this guy for? Probably about five months now. Yeah, like a lot of people, you know, it's a lot harder, I personally think, to go in, especially if you're developing feelings for somebody and start swinging with that person in the beginning because you don't really have like a lot of security. I mean, listen, you never own somebody and know for sure that someone's not going to leave you. But the longer you're with somebody and the more you're with them, you do develop a security

within that relationship. So, and a lot of people that are swingers, the reason why they don't get jealous is because they know their partners theirs and everything's cool and they're never leaving them. You know what I mean? So why feel jealous? But you don't have that. Like, you just met this guy. You know what I mean?

So it kind of makes sense that you'd get a little freaked out. Plus, even if you're not in love with him, like he's like a great find, right? Like you don't want to lose him. And like, maybe they're just a little fear of like, oh, anything changing because you're so into what you have right now. And even though that's not going to have. been, that's a typical thing I think to feel very early on because you have no security in this relationship with him because you just met him. Do you know what I mean? Does that make sense? Yeah, no,

and I definitely have thought about that. Like, like, especially because when I do see, so there's a couple of couples that we've met through the community. And like, I just see how their dynamics are and how their relationships are and, like, just how secure they are. And it's just like, it really does look drastically different. Of course, because they've been with each other 15 years. And, like, and you've been together five months. Yeah. There's a difference, like for real. So you're doing it the harder way.

I mean, listen, at least this guy's cool and he's a professional lifestyle. Because listen, some people like, you know, they can't get past. Like if someone feels jealous, another person might not react the right way and stuff. And this is the stuff that causes problems in quote unquote relationships. I mean, at least this guy isn't rude when you tell him you're a little jealous and he receives it well, correct? Oh yeah, no. He's been like, he's been phenomenal about it. Every time I bring it up, he's like, you realize you're not forcing me to be here. Yeah. I'm like, I'm aware, but. And anybody that knows the lifestyle and is professional and masters it well and has been there, done that, like they know that it's all about communication and they and jealousy is not something that's unheard of, even with couples that have been together for 15 years. Like it could rear its ugly head for no. And they, and jealousy is not something that's unheard of. Even with couples that have been together for 15 years. Like, it could rear its ugly head for no. And, reason without you realizing it at any time. And sometimes it does.

And what's most important is that your, your partner is okay and is there for you when that happens and you feel comfortable talking about it. You, the girl who can't talk about anything, at least you're able to bring that up and talk about it and putting on the, that on the plate instead of internalizing that, that would be a fucking nightmare for you because then you're just going to go nuts one day. You know what I mean?

But at least you're, when it comes up for you, you're putting it out on the table and talking about it with him, correct? That's what it sounds like. And that's amazing. That's what you need to do. Yeah, no. I definitely am bringing it up a lot more. And he's great about checking in before, during, immediately after, like the next day.

Like he, like I said, he is not going to let me get away with not seeing something. No, that's great. So is he the one that could tell you were jealous and, like, made you sort of admit it? Or were you wanting to tell him? Or did you want to keep it into you? yourself and didn't want to tell him to be able to show him you were vulnerable? Yeah, I definitely wanted to keep it. I definitely wanted to keep it in. But yeah, no, he clothed it from like a mile away. No, that's great. I love this guy for you. I think that that's important. You know, and that's the only way,

because like I said, you're doing things the difficult way if you wind up in a relationship with this guy and you're just doing it with this guy. It's hard what you're doing right now because like I said, you don't have security. So of course, maybe this jealousy will come up. But I think, you know, with continued talking and him just proving himself to you and me you know like eventually you'll get more security within this situation ship that you have i don't know what it is yet but like you know that you won't feel that way but it's totally normal and it's great that he pushes you to communicate about it because i'm telling you if you keep that stuff in it's a recipe for disaster for you and him okay yeah and definitely some advice that i've gotten from some other people and the lifestyle is like nothing is

too small. It's either it's either like it wasn't small or now you realize that it was silly in a sense. Yeah. They're always like nothing is too small. If it is bothering you tell someone at least. Yes. And that's across the board. If you listen to any of my couples on the show, like that's what it's all about. And that's why I'm like, oh, this is like a really good lifestyle for you, someone who's very uncomfortable with talking because you're going to be forced to talk more than you've ever talked to And therein lies the reason why so many people in the lifestyle feel so close to each other. Because there's an intimacy that goes along with it. That's why your other relationships didn't last because it lacked that kind of intimacy because

you couldn't open up and you didn't show parts of yourself. But in this kind of situation, you have to. That's the only way it works. Yeah. And I've actually been listening to your podcast like nonstop since I found it. And like that is the exact same thing that I'm hearing. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely something that is brand new to me.

and it's like all like the insecurity and jealousy things or something that I'm definitely working through because like it's so weird to me and I'll sit here and I'll think to myself like man you know like the hypocrisy because like I love it when I'm a part of a threesome and you know like again all guys attention is on me

on the site that I'm on I post photos videos and you know it's it's mostly men on the site and you know when they like and they comment I'm like yes please but then like on the inverse I'm like oh wow someone finds a majority interactive, okay. Yeah, but like, the feelings are never

work through that. Of course, and it's great to put that out and work through it. But like sometimes your mind can't make any sense of your feelings. You know what I mean?

And they're not supposed to sometimes. You know what I mean? Like it's not, it's not, uh, it's, you know, it is what it is. You can't help it.

Like, you know what I mean? No one's right or wrong for how they feel. It's how you feel. And I get it. I'm very like a logical person, right?

So I would love to logically, uh, rationalize. all my feelings away, but you know, you have to remember. Sometimes you just fucking can. It's just a feeling, you know what I mean? And that's how you feel. And that's okay.

And I think it's very normal in this situation. You're obviously maybe copping feelings for him. Yeah, that is definitely like something that it's happening. Like, at one point, when I started to realize it, I literally told him, I was like, I think we're taking up too much of each other's time. And he's like, what do you mean? Oh, you're trying to sabotage? Because you were like, instead of saying, oh, I'm liking you.

You're like, oh, we need to stop hanging out. that's your way of saying I was starting to really like you. Yeah. Do you see how backwards that is? Oh yeah, of course, obviously. Yeah. But like having that hard conversation would have saved me from having so many emotional conversations.

But I'm glad that like he, you know, kind of pushed that. But again, he kept being like, like, you aren't forcing me to be here. And I'm like, that's a good point. Well, does he, I mean, does he, has he ever caught to the fact that he's having feelings for you? I'm going to get back to the sex stuff, but like, I'm just wondering. Like, has he ever caught to the fact that he has feelings for you, too, at all? Yeah, it's, yeah, and it's a conversation that we've had, and, you know, I had like a couple times now. And again, like, he just kind of reassures me. He's like, you know, like, you're not

forcing me to be here. I thought I've made that, you know, pretty clear. But, yeah, it's definitely, so actually an interesting, interesting point here. So, like, I was starting to do all of this stuff solo and when him and I started to talk like we were still you know doing stuff separately but recently we like don't play with people separately anymore. Okay that's a bit that's a step with couples that they take that means something don't you think? Yeah definitely and like it was something I was like super nervous to like bring up to him but like again he I did bring it up and he just like handled it so well and like he'll be like the first like person like when we're talking to someone to be like, oh yeah, we don't play separately.

And just something about that makes me just feel like so much better. But like it was, I was really nervous to like bring that up. I'm surprised you did. I would, you know, I'd high five you. The girl who can't talk about stuff like that is bold of you to bring that up because that's kind of saying like I don't want you to do stuff without me. You know what I mean? Like it's very, you know, it's kind of like saying I kind of want you to just do this

and putting some boundaries. And that happens within relationships. And it's very, it's great that you were able to speak up and tell him that. And it's great that he was like, okay, I'm down. Yeah, no, it was really great because I was, so that actually, that conversation happened over text message. So I'm like sitting there, like, waiting for the typing indicators. I'm like shaking.

But was it because you just didn't want it to go on anymore like separate and like you just knew that you wouldn't be able to emotionally handle it and so you needed to speak up? Because like what forced a person who doesn't want to say this shit out loud in the son of just do it? Yeah, it was more of like that second reason you're saying like emotionally I just don't I could have like handled it. You couldn't have continued on with you guys doing it solo is what you're saying, separate from each other.

Like it either needed to be that way or you were, you were going to continue to feel like uncomfortable and stuff. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I mean, and then he may have been able to like tell, but like if it continued like that, I probably would have just been like, because like, I never explicitly said it to him.

But like after a while I was just like not playing with other people, not even really talking to other people or anything. And like, I mean, I'm sure he had, you know, some stuff. But he was again, like, do you want to know if I'm talking to other people or do you not want to? And I was like, no, I do. And then he was open with that and was telling me, you know, if people would message him or if he was interested in going to like an event. And like, after a while, like of hearing it, I was like, okay, I would just spiral if he didn't tell me.

But now that I do know, like, I'm like, I don't want to do it without him. Yeah. And now, and so now you guys, I don't want to do this alone. So now you guys are always, like you don't play without each other, correct? That's a big step, I think. And a good step for you guys, right? Yeah, no, it is. And like, I, like, again, like, I still feel in a way, like, kind of bad.

Like, it was something I brought up and he handled it really well. And, you know, it was super accommodating and open to doing that. So, like, but now I sit here and I'm like, okay, I feel like we have to, like, go play with other couples or, like, go to parties. Because, like, I feel bad. I feel like, I don't know. locking you down, but I feel like if we go do these things, then it's fine. Yeah, well, don't you want to do these things anyway? Because I definitely, oh, yeah, no, that's the other thing.

It's like, not that I don't want to, because I definitely want to go do these things. Yeah, you're just going to continue on with everything. Yeah, well, that's good because he likes to do it. And so you're not holding him back from anything. You're not saying, oh, now I want to be with you. We can't play solo and let's not play at all. Let's just sit home and watch Netflix. You're just saying, let's continue to do everything that we're doing.

and have fucking fun, let's just not do it without each other. And that's great because you want, you still have all these things you want to do. You know, what other kinds of experience? Is there anything that we're missing here? We still have plenty of time to talk. Like, you know, what I, you know, I just love this guy for you.

I don't really know you, but if you were my friend, I'd be happy that you met this guy. I mean, he sounds great and a good partner for you, especially within the lifestyle. You know, solo guys sometimes get a very bad rap. But to me, any solo guy who has been able to navigate the lifestyle for a long period of time

and be successful, it has to be a good guy. You know what I mean? Because if you're not a good guy, you can't last as a solo guy, especially in the lifestyle, right? Women could smell that shit from a mile away. So he sounds great. Like, what else have you guys done together?

Besides swingers clubs, you've done swapping, threesomes. Yeah, like I said, we really started to get more into the impact play. So that is something that he's also kind of exploring. We also want to start exploring like Shibari and rope play.

He's like always telling me, he's like, I want to hang you from the ceiling. And I was like, yes, we got to try that. Have you guys been to a kink club together? Because that's very different than a swinger club, right? I mean, that's where you're going to see more of like some shabari and tying up and that kind of stuff, right? At a kink club versus a swingers club? Oh, yeah.

We have not been to a kink club together. We've been to like a couple parties that are more kink focused and that do kated to like impact stuff, but not, uh, not anything with rope yet. So explain one of those parties that you've been to and what went down and what you guys did and what experiences you had? Yeah. So I think one of like the best experiences that we had actually just happened on, uh, Valentine's weekend.

Uh-huh. So we went to a party and they have a couple spanking benches and they have a St. Andrew's cross. So I was on the cross and we actually got to try a wooden paddle. So usually my favorite impact tool, which is so funny to me because it's just an everyday item. And like I mentioned earlier, he went and got some impact tools to try. But before that, typically my favorite thing was leather belt. Like he just takes off his belt and just goes to town. He's my favorite.

Okay. But we recently got to try a wooden paddle. And it was a lot heavier. It was just, it was a totally different experience. But we tried that and I was on the cross. And like I, like I almost, I started to cry, not from it like hurting or, you know, just like feel like he was crossing the line. It just felt so great. Like I was just so lost that I completely forgot.

There were like people watching. And we got photos back after the event. And I posted them on, on my profile. And so many people were like, oh, that was amazing to watch. And I was like, you were watching. There's people there. Do you think you were in subspace? I don't know.

I maybe that's something that I've never been fully sure like if I have ever gotten there. Yeah. But I would I would think that if I was or if I had gotten it close, it would have been that time. Like even afterwards, he was like, I think that is the most we have like ever clicked for impact play. Interesting. It was, yeah, it was, it was really just amazing. I don't know how to describe it. I still think back to it and I'm like, I don't know what made it so many, like,

so much different. Yeah. But it was, it was great. Okay. And what other, like, I mean, what about the degradation? Like, how far do you get into that? And what does that mean for you? Yeah.

So I love, I love being treated like a dirty little whore. I love that. I do want to, no, and here's the other thing is, like, so many people just, again, aren't into that. Yeah. And, like, oh, no, I'm this horror. I'm his little whore. Those are his holes. They're not mine. And yeah. So I can even like with other people that I met with off the site, like they weren't into that at all either. And I'm like, again, I totally get that. That's not for everyone. But, uh, yeah, it's a great feeling when I'm on my knees and he is just got his cock down in my throat and he calls me his dirty little slut, pulls me back, slaps me, splits on my face. puts his cock back in my throat, I'm like, yes. Oh my God, can you deep throat?

I'm practicing it. Right. I've gotten better taking him, but it's something I'm working on. I do unfortunately have a gag reflex. Everyone does. But I think you could learn it. I've had some girls on my show who have learned how to do it. You know, it is a learned skill, you know?

Yeah. I can't either, but I'm always super impressed with women who can. But you just like to be like kind of like degraded in that way, which makes sense. That's like the what degradation is. all about. Yeah, definitely love feeling just like used. Like something about that also just makes me feel like on cloud nine. Makes you horny. I mean like there's nothing wrong with that. I remember always thinking like oh, if someone was into degradation like, you know, or if someone was into doing it like they obviously hated away. But I don't know. I just didn't realize that. No,

it's just like a kink. Some people just get turned on by it. You know what I mean? It's like role playing. You know what I mean? Why not pretend you're a dirty whore? You know, I mean. And so you're not really a dirty whore. You're there with someone you care about. You know what I mean? Consensually, this guy is someone you know and you like. You know what I mean. He actually treats you extremely respectable. Like not like a dirty whore at all, but like, why not pretend to be one. That's what it's all about. Yeah. Which is the big difference. And I think sometimes people forget it. And that's why I'm explaining. Because I think a lot of people think like I used to think too. Sometimes they hear stuff like that. It's like, oh, that must come from trauma or whatever. Some people just like it. It's just like a hot, kinky thing to role play. I know. I've definitely had people. Like I'm not like with people in my personal life. I don't share too much of this stuff. But like I share I share a lot of things with my aunt because we're pretty close in age actually. And even when I brought that up, she was like, hmm, no thank you. And I'm like, no, it's not like that.

Like obviously, because she actually just recently met my current partner. And I was like, trust me. Like he's a nice guy, I promise. Like the stories I tell you, I'm fine. Yeah. He always jokes because I say like, I don't know if I have a high pain tolerance. he's like, I about have to like hit you in the face with a brick during sex. I'm like, all right.

Let's look at super crazy. Sure, I like it rough, but you like, no, you like it really rough. But did you, are you the one that's turning him on to this stuff? Like, had he ever really experienced it before? Or did you sort of tap him into the fact that he was like into all the stuff and now he's doing it with you? I'm a degradation part of things. I don't really know. He had said that he's always wanted to like get more into impact and like look

into rope play. Yeah. That stuff he's always wanted to try. And then he was, yeah, and he was, you know, joining couples and part of like the swinger community before I was. So like he was always into that part of things as well. And so now, like, what's your like, you know, monthly schedule? Are you guys going to swinger clubs every weekend or do you see each other during the

week? Like how many times are you guys playing with people and doing stuff and having fun? Yeah. So lately we've been going to like a party or to a swingers club probably like once or twice a month and then we'll see each other just like on our own couple times a week. And do I would assume like you sometimes go to the movies, go out to dinner, like you do stuff like that too. Occasionally. Yeah. That's a little few and far in between because like I don't know like a couple days apart and we're like like fucking like animals. Like you're still in that phase. You're still in that phase. You just want to have sex. That's fun.

I like that phase where you just like fuck for hours. Like whose house do you go to? So actually we meet up in a hotel. Why do you guys live at home? Why in a hotel? Yeah. So I mean, I know I do.

And I just like believe that everyone, you know, deserves their own privacy. So I would not like push that or anything. But I don't know. Where does he live? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just a quick. Where does he live that you're not going to his place? Does he have roommates or something?

I think something like that. So you always meet at hotels. Listen, I think hotel sex is super fun anyway, right? Don't you get more horny in a hotel room? I do. I totally agree. I heard you say that on another one of your episodes, but I just totally agree.

Something about it. Yeah, totally. That it's another like super hot kink thing, right? Like there's something about a hotel room that makes me horny. And so that's where you guys always just like meet up when you're typically meeting up. Yeah, that's a fun phase. You just can't keep your hands off of each other. Yeah, no, that's definitely like the phase that we're in, which I don't mind at all.

What is his favorite thing to do with you? Like, is it swap? Like, do you, and what is your favorite thing? Like, is it like two guys? Is it a threesome with a girl? Is it swapping? Like, is it watching him? Like, what do you love that you've realized after all of this?

Besides, like, the impact play and that stuff. I'm talking about, like, the swinging stuff. Like, what do you, what is like top of the mountain for you? yeah so i think so my favorite thing i'm gonna say is like i mean it's not even like a sexual thing i feel but like when we are like with other people and everything like i don't know he's always watching me and just like when i'm looking at him i'm like this is just making it like so much hotter like i can just see how much he's enjoying it and that just makes me enjoy it so much more i really feel like that's such a lame answer but like

there was a time we were at a swingers club and there was this couple her husband was going down on me and she was like behind me playing with my tits and my partner was kind of just like next to her husband and he was just like touching my leg and at one point i had to like looked up and like he was looking at me there was another couple that was just like stopped just to stop by and like was watching and like all of them like looking at me but he was something else entirely like the way he was just looking at me i was like oh my god I love being the center of attention right now. Yeah, I've heard other women say that.

So you like that. That's a little bit of the exhibitionist in you as well, right? Yeah. Because it's you performing while you're having sex that he's watching you and looking at you. Yeah, that's another thing is I love like when we are, at least like when we're playing together and so many people just come up and they're like, you guys are amazing. Like you just like are great to watch. And I'm like, thank you. He's phenomenal.

Is he hot? We have something hot. Is he super hot? I mean, I think so. I know a lot of people I think think that. But yeah, I mean, he's tall as hell. He's like over a foot taller than I am. He's like 6.3.

And you're 6'2? That alone, I think. No, I'm 5'3. Oh, I thought you said he's one inch taller than me or something. I don't know why I heard of like. No, sorry. He's like a foot taller than me. Oh, okay. So wait, he's 6.4 and how tall are you?

And you're 5.3? Oh, my God. Yeah, listen, the height thing for a guy, doesn't it just take him up a notch? Mm. More than a notch. More than an notch. It takes him up like four. No, every girl knows that.

It takes a guy up like three notches. My son is like so psychotically tall for his age. And I'm always like, you don't understand how lucky you are. Guys, there's certain things that guys like and being tall is one of them. Because I'm sorry, it makes a guy hotter being really tall. Is there something about it? So I get it. Yeah, it definitely does.

Yeah, we like that. Okay, cool. So listen, I'm excited to hear what happens. Would your guy come on the show? I'd love to talk to him. Does he know you're calling in? He doesn't. Oh, okay. Then we don't have to say anything. That's okay. He doesn't, but I will tell him. So he's going to listen to this? Maybe. He probably will, knowing him. Okay, so I'll talk directly to him. Hey, dude, I love the way you roll. I think you're great. I love talking to solo guys in the lifestyle. If you want to call in, get the link from her, email me. So I'd love to have him on if you do wind up letting him hear it and stuff. But, you know, let's hear where you guys are. out a year from now. I'm dying to know. Keep me posted, okay? I'm rooting for you guys to get in a relationship. You know what I mean? Yeah, you and my aunt. Oh, she is too. She likes them for you too. Yes. I love that you're a, that you have that close relationship with her, you know,

like I get, like my father was one of like 10 brothers and so he has a cousin who's his age and so you know what I mean? So I get like you could have like an aunt that's your age somehow. And that's why. And so you guys like kind of grew up together. Kind of. So she's a, years older than I am, but we work together. So, like, I don't know, we, we, our relationship definitely shifted when we started to work together, but I actually just, like, clued her into all of my lifestyle choices, I don't know, maybe in, like, November. Was she like, oh, my God, tell me more, like, just so interested, just for fun, just to hear the stories? Yeah, she was. She definitely had, like, a lot of questions, but, like, it was fun. And now I literally, like, tell her everything.

And she's like, okay. Like, we just went on a trip together. We shared a room. were like, I'm showing her how to take, like, photos for her boyfriend. And I'm like, this is fun. Oh, my God. It's nice to be able to wrap to somebody about it, right? When you're living this kind of lifestyle, then to keep it all to yourself. That's why people call into my show because they just want to, like, talk about it. And there's no one, sometimes, you know, couples are doing this very on the D.L.

And none of their vanilla friends know, you know, so it's nice to have somebody that knows that you could talk to. And I'm sorry, women talk about sex with their friends, way more than guys do. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. That I 100% believe. Yeah. weird that you're rapping with her about it. I get it. So, you know, keep me posted. Let me, let us, let us all know if in six months or a year from now, you guys are still dating in a

full-fledged relationship. And let me know if he wants to call in. And do me a favor. You listen to my show. You know that I love pictures, like for my Patreon. If you want to send in a pick. For Patreon, I always say R-rated, like lingerie shot or a bikini shot. And then you're going to get free access. Well, my Discord isn't, you don't have to pay to get in. It's free. But it's like not public, right? So you have to get a link from me. You will get a link for me when we hang up. The Calumly thank you email will have a free link to my Discord. So make sure to go in there. I will give you, I will email you when your episode goes up. And if you want to send in Picks for you, you know, send them to me ASAP. So I have them. And on Discord, you could

post whatever you want. You know what I mean? Make sure to put your name Haley, because that's the name of the show if you're going to go in there. So when your episode airs, there's a whole guest channel and you could post in there if you want to. You're a little exhibitionist. So I think you might have fun. I have a lot of people over there. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it.

The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip

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strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is, me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the e-book, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.

Yeah, it sounds good. I'll definitely send you over some photos. Okay, awesome. Thanks so much, Haley, for calling in. Good luck with your new guy. Thank you. All right. Bye.

Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book. The book is called Shirkly anonymous confessions. Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story.

There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gang bang girl story. Like I said, 17th story. And they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person. I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show. You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third person. There's an ebook available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the ebook. It's available. If you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks, okay? It's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with

each other. That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures and there's tons of channels and we have contests over there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buys my book at any time access to my Discord. It is private. This is the only way you could get in is through me giving you the link. And that's why I think my Discord is so great because I have vetted people. It's not like it's just open to the public. So everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show and people that listen to my show are fucking great. So my Discord is fucking great. My book is great. You're going to love it. If you buy it, all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it and I will give you free access to my

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