Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1396 - Painful Sex, Vaginal Dryness, UTIs & Pelvic Floor Problems w/Heather

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

Heather Florio from Desert Harvest called in to discuss how her aunt’s struggle with interstitial cystitis led to her to a career in women’s pelvic and sexual health, the most common issues women come to her for including painful sex, vaginal dryness, menopause symptoms and bladder pain, how stress and trauma can cause pelvic floor dysfunction, how pelvic floor tightness can lead to symptoms like pain during sex and bladder urgency, how her pelvic wand can help release trigger points and relax tight pelvic floor muscles, her own experience dealing with severe period pain, endometriosis and fibroids and why pelvic pain is often misdiagnosed, how she eventually wound up having multiple surgeries and a hysterectomy before being diagnosed with interstitial cystitis, why hysterectomies are often over-prescribed and why women should advocate for themselves and seek other options first, the different pelvic health products her company Desert Harvest offers including lubricants, bladder supplements and period underwear plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2610-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay, today I have on Heather Floreo. she started Desert Harvest.com. They have all kinds of amazing products for women and their targeted supplements for bladder pain, pelvic health, and sexual wellness for women. She goes over the products that she has. We talk about all kinds of different issues. Women have.

I talk about the issues I've had. She talks about her whole journey with interstitial cystitis and pelvic pain. I talk about my tight pelvic pain issues. I had, she talks about how and why she started her business. She started it before she even had any kind of pelvic pain issues herself. But I love what she's doing on Desert Harvest. They have a lot of amazing products. She describes some of them, like in detail so you know what they're for, what to use them.

So they're all natural. They're all made from aloe vera. She even has undies, period undies that made from the aloe plan. And she explains how she made them from there. And like, they're super cute. You have to go to the website. It's deserthervest.com. but the whole conversation is super interesting.

She's very smart. She knows everything. You're going to learn a lot from her. And I think you're going to want to go check out her products because I wanted to check them out when I was talking to her because I love like all natural stuff. And that can help women. And as a woman who is now in menopause, like I have more issues than I ever had down there.

So she has a lot of great stuff that could help women of all ages. She explains it all. So I'm going to get right to be right back on with Heather. Hi, Heather Floreo. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm good. How are you? Good. Listen, you're calling in for my sexual health Saturdays. Now, you look like a very young girl to me, but you started a whole company called Desert Harvest, who specializes in pelvic and sexual health products, right? You have had your own journey with interstitial cystitis and pelvic pain yourself. Your company deals with all kinds of problems that women can have in the pelvic region, right? I mean, we're going to kind of talk about a little bit about all of it. And then we'll, like, end with talking about how and why you started your company and all the

products that you offer. Sounds good to me. Yeah, and thank you for the compliment, by the way. You can call me young all day long. Well, I mean, I don't know. Are you in your 40s, 30s? Yeah, I'm almost 50. Oh, you're almost 50.

Okay, you look super young. I remember when I was like 46. I still look like a baby. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. But yeah, yeah, so you've done a lot. You've been there, done that. You had your own.

And is that why you started a desert harvest because of what you went through? Were you always in the medical field? Like, what's your backstory? Yeah, so actually, it was born out of a need separate of me. So I didn't get diagnosed until 2016. Actually, my aunt had interstitial cystitis. So she was diagnosed in the early 90s. And so for those that don't know, interstitial cystitis is like having the most painful, constant UTI that never goes.

away. But no UTI. No, you know bacteria. So a horribly painful, very debilitating. And back then, it was a condition that most clinicians considered all in your head. And so my aunt had to get really creative and

started looking for alternatives. And her and my mother went to some random natural products conference, grabbed some bottle of alivar, took the whole thing and like slept through the night, is unheard of for an icy patient that has to get up and void because frequency is a hallmark symptom. And so as a result, we, you know, safely, you should not do that because the aloeira that's naturally in the health food stores is not safe for long-term use in a high doses. So the

alivara that you find in the health food store is meant as digestive aids and to just act as kind of a support for the gut. It is not meant to function the way that we create. And we start with the Alibara. That's why we call it our SSAV capsules, because we go much further with that particular product that we developed over, oh gosh, going on 33 years now. And it was, like I said, born out of that need. So we follow it literally all the way from field to bottle from our fields in Mexico. We've done double-blind placebo-controlled studies showing that we have an 87.5% response rate of some or complete relief of all symptoms. So frequency burning, pain, nocturia, which is that frequency at night. And so over the years, because that's what started our company is that Keystone

product, we began developing other products and educating women on their bodies and how to take care of them from their vaginal microbiome to their pelvic floor. We just evolved. We grew with pelvic health as a field. It didn't even really exist back then. And I can remember the early 2000s probably having, being at the first pelvic pain conference for clinicians. And there was like 75 people and that probably included the workers too.

So. What were you doing at that time that this was born? Like, who were you? Were you going to school to be a nurse, a doctor? Were you a clinician? Like, what was your deal? No, so I grew up more in an entrepreneurial family. So my mother in, let's see, 1980, she started her at-home business so that she could stay

at home with me because she was sick of not being able to stay at home with me. So she started a secretarial service and then grew to be one of the world's greatest resume writers, wrote all the books for Bairns in New York. And so I've been working since I think I could walk and talk. Yeah, you had a good role model. I mean, she was ahead of her time to be doing so. Like nowadays, anyone could start an at-home business, right, with the internet. But back in those days, that's like she was way ahead of her time.

and she must have been really effing smart and dedicated to be able to do that and do it so successfully as a woman, right? It's amazing. Yeah, I mean, she was the, before that, part of that, you know, she was that, I always call her the 9 to 5 from, you know, with Dolby, you know, with Jane Fonda, because she literally was working for Arthur Anderson, now defunct, of course, as the president's executive assistant. And that was her career throughout the 70s. before she, you know, decided that she wanted to retire, like not do that, but actually be able to be home with me and develop her own career and her own business. Yeah, that's amazing. So definitely ahead of her time.

Yeah, totally. And did you, I mean, were you just really into wellness and, you know, the medical stuff for yourself? You had to have had an interest to sort of go down this path, I would think. Yes. I think that I grew more and more. For me, it was just like what I did. It was something that I understood. I knew a lot about.

I was very involved. My mother, unfortunately, has also been very sick my whole life with a variety of different conditions that they didn't know how to treat autoimmune conditions. Oh, you know what? That kind of makes sense. Yeah. And so as a result, I have been around the medical field since I was a little girl. I've actually been, you know, had doctors come out and tell me that my, my mother passed away in a surgery only to have her like come back to life.

Oh my God. Yeah. So it's just been something that I've always been involved in and not necessarily something I thought I would have a career in. My love was actually interestingly enough in music. And I started my own event company when I was in high school and did that. desert harvest at the same time thought that that's where I was going to end up. And then, and then, you know, my mother got really sick. I had to come in. She was on a coma, actually, and I ended up having to come in, take over. And as a result, really just realized what we were doing

and the impact that it was having on women's lives. And I realized I could make this more. I could help women. I could be a part of, yeah, I could help women. I could be a help and a part of this change and I could teach women about their bodies and how to take care of them. And I could develop products that would actually make a true difference in a woman's life versus just trying to make money off of a woman. Yeah. And do both at the same time. I mean, you were a career-oriented woman.

You learn from your mother how to be an entrepreneur, right? So I love kinds of stories that or like even, you know, stories that don't start, like you didn't know what you were going to do, like you said. I mean, you never thought this was going to happen, but this is what you ended up doing. And it kind of makes sense when you think back to your life, right? Why not put that all together? And it's kind of like a niche that you filled, right? And so when it comes to like what you sort of specialize now in helping women, what is like the number one thing that most women come to desert harvest for? Is it painful sex? Is it dryness? Is it, you know, pelvic discomfort in general? You know, what would you say is the number

one thing that most women have as an issue that they're coming to you for? Um, so for us, yes, it's definitely outside of interstitial societies. Yeah. The things that they are coming to us for involve like menopause. Yeah. Inert vaginal atrophy, vaginal dryness, not necessarily as a result of menopause dryness, although we do deal with that as well. Okay, guys, you know what March is? It's like the month of a national woman's day. So why not take the whole month and make it about your girl's pleasure? Because if you ask me, her pleasure isn't optional.

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The things that they are coming to us for involve like menopause, vaginal atrophy, vaginal dryness, not necessarily as a result of menopause dryness, although we do deal with that as well, but maybe because of breast cancer, cancer treatments. We actually have our relivium, which is the number one product recommended for cancer patients undergoing radiation treatments in the world. And that is because this is actually, again, born out of a need. It's one of the first products I actually developed with our chemist because her daughter had lymphoma. And I was like, well, let's get in the lab and see what we can figure out to do because she couldn't even put on a shirt her radiation burns were so bad.

And we knew the complexity of those burns. Like, you know, our aloeuvre jelly is great for sunburn, but not for radiation burn. And so we hopped in the lab and started testing out different ingredients and seeing what would actually make a difference. And we developed our relivem, which is a patented blend of plant tanticles. The only thing that's in there that's a chemical is the 4% lydicane for that numbing. for that numbing effect. And so we made it initially for this,

knowing that we could utilize it for vaginal cancers, anal cancers. But then we found out that people started using in ways that we didn't even think of from utilizing it on their vestibule to get past pain for sex. What's a vestibule, by the way? What do you mean by a vestibule?

No, it's okay. I feel like if I'm like, what the fuck does you mean? Other people are going to be like that. So I ask. I have to ask it. No, it's the vaginal opening is called the vestibule. Oh, okay, good to know. I don't think I do that.

Yeah, and so it's just kind of the anatomical term. And that is, it's not, you can put that on there and then use it in combination with our AlloGlide, which is our FDA cleared medical devices of sexual lubricant and also cleared as a vaginal moisturizer. So it's therapeutic and functional at the same time. And this is the product that's also key. cleared by oncologists too, correct? Because there's no hormones in your stuff, correct?

Yes. So specific to the reliveum, yes. So that is the one that is recommended for the pain part. It can be utilized on the vulva, on the vestibule, in combination with the glide for sex, pelvic floor physical therapy, that kind of thing. Yeah, I love that. And so, and like it's such a great thing to offer women because a lot of times, you know, what they offer women is Estrada.

right, but a lot of people who have had cancer and they're going to stay away from that because it has hormones. So this is something else that someone can use. And now do they need a prescription for that through you or because it's all natural? There's no script involved? Yes, correct. They can order it just directly on our website at desertarhivist.com.

That is not a problem. None of these, nothing that we do is prescription strength and said it's an over-the-counter drug. Our aloglid is an FDA cleared medical device. And so we have all these products that are just meant to work in fluidity in conjunction

with things that might be prescribed by your clinician, such as, you know, you mentioned HRT. And interestingly enough, a lot of the research, they're actually researching it in breast cancer patients right now, HRT, and determining what they can and can't have and which breast cancers can't have what. Because, you know, we had the women's health initiative in 2000. in which we abruptly stopped, destroyed. Yeah, and like we destroyed women for 25 years.

Yeah. And so now that, you know, we had the study done in 2019 that proved, debunked everything from 2002 and said, no, women need to be on this because otherwise we're going to lead to osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, dementia, you know, Alzheimer's. And so this is our preventative is having our hormones in the long term. And so they're researching it, you know, over 65 they found in a research study. Even if you're postmenopausal, it's things you can still talk to your clinician about because you can just, you know, they found that the transdermal patch, although not readily available at the moment, is great for women over 65 in clinical research. And so now they're studying breast cancer.

They're understanding what women can and can't have depending and what limitations cannot have it whatsoever. So that is still evolving. And I think we're going to see some really interesting stuff come out of that. Yeah. My sister who had breast cancer recently went on HRT and estrogen. You know, things have changed over time. I've always been on hormones and I was always believed in them and I was never afraid.

But, you know, I never talked to my sister into because she had breast cancer. She believed those studies and everything, but things absolutely changed. And she was able, she changed her mind and she's on it. She feels 10,000 times better. But it's amazing that there's other things out there for some women because some women still just don't want to take hormones. You know what I mean? For whatever reason or they can't get to a doctor.

You need a prescription. Nowadays with the tariffs, I can't tell you how hard it is to get my hormones delivered to my house. Okay. Like everything's back ordered. You know what I mean? Like there's certain issues. I mean, it's amazing that they could come on your website.

Just get this kind of stuff. Let's talk about the other stuff, like, you know, the other kinds of symptoms and issues that you treat and have products for. Like, you know, I know that like you have all, like, is it all Alovera-based stuff? Yes, pretty much most of our products have aloe. We even actually make period urinary leakage underwear out of aloe. You're kidding. Yes. What is aloe like this like crazy plant that we never knew could do all these things?

you could actually make underwear out of it? I can't even believe that. Well, you think the historical references go back, I think, roughly 10,000 years on Alavara. So we have documented uses over, you know, a very extensively long period of time. Yeah. And so as a result, yes, alavera is amazing and it can also be dangerous. Realized it just because something's natural doesn't make it safe. Yeah, totally.

And so where I mention those digestive aids that are in the health food stores, those are meant for short-term use. Alivara naturally has what's called antherquitones in it. They're latex chemicals that long term, they act as an irritant, a spasmatic to the colon, and long-term can be carcinogenic to the colon. And so they're not meant to, they're meant to be for a short burst of time, and that's it, and you're done. Two of our newer products, which is Heather's UTI defense, which is for recurrent UTIs. And then we also have another new product, which is the world's first human bioidentical lactoferrin. So this is human grade. And this is the stuff that you hear about like, you know, the bodybuilders going to buying breast milk on the black market.

Yeah. Right. They want they want the lactoferrin. which is a glycoprotein naturally in the clostrum and breast milk. And we are really excited to bring that product out because for metapausal women, it's going to make a huge difference in optimizing iron production in the body. So when we're menstruating, our iron levels drop down. This will, the lactoferrin balances out homeostasis in the body for iron when it drops down. Or if it goes too high, like in menopause, as you stop menstruating, your iron levels rise. So by creating

that iron homeostasis in the body, you're improving your immune function, inflammatory cytokines in the body. And when you create iron homeostasis, you're optimizing estrogen function and production in the body. Right. So even if you're on HRT, this could help because it's going to make everything work better, correct? Because I don't think HRT is the end-all be-all. There's so many things that come into play when you are in menopause. I'm in menopause myself, so I know all the information, all the other things that are going on. You need help besides your HRT. You know, I'm a big supplement person, so I'm like glued listening to you what you're talking about with this new supplement because I love supplements and believe in them and take them and I'm always looking for other things to

support my health as I get older because things change, you know? Mm-hmm. And that's the great thing about the lactofer, and it's kind of an amazing product. It optimizes gut function better than pre-or probiotics in research, and it also stimulates collagen synthesis. So instead of supplementing collagen and trying to put collagen back, that might also, mostly what we have out there is bovine collagen. instead this is synthesizing what's already in your body so joints skin hair nails it's going to benefit all

of that and is it a capsule or powder it's in a capsule with our sSAV again i we we put that in every single supplement because it enhances the absorption the bioavailability in this in your body so we actually showed in clinical research that it enhances bioavailability by 25% yeah i love I love that. Listen, I don't really, I mean, I know that everyone's so big into powders, making shakes, and I can't stand putting, like, three big scoops of things into something that I'm drinking. I don't know. I'm not into it. And I always F up and don't take my collagen or my creatine because I'm taking my protein. And I just feel weird putting all this powder in there and drinking it at one time. So I prefer capsules. Like, if I feel like I could get your product and be getting my collagen that I need and all that at the same time in one capsule, for me, that's beneficial. Yeah, yeah, it is wonderful. The only thing you have to keep separate. There isn't, we haven't found out a good way with creatine just yet. Yeah, yeah. But that's a little amount. I don't mind throwing the creatine in. That's a little amount. But when I do my protein after the gym, with the collagen, it's like too much for me to put in. It's like so much that I always feel like I get a little bit of a stomach pain from it. I don't know. I just don't. And I'm not going to put

it in my coffee. I don't care what anybody says. They say it doesn't taste like anything, but I, I, I, I, I tasted it and it might be all in my head. But I want my coffee to be black with nothing in it. I don't want to put that powder in there. I just don't. Uh-uh. Right? No, at least creatine tastes like nothing. Like, I could not do protein powders.

Like, my son does them all the time and I watch it and I'm like, oh. Yeah, no, I don't. And then the collagen is the same thing and everyone puts in their coffee. And like, you do want to take it and I like to take all that stuff. But I prefer supplements. So I love what you have. Let's talk to the women that do have, like, pelvic pain. I mean, pelvic pain is a big umbrella.

right like so like it could be for so many different reasons not just interstitial cystitis right correct i would assume yeah essentially as women we hold all of our stress trauma everything yeah in our pelvic floor this is our hammock yes and so you think it's holding everything into place and if your hammock isn't strong it's you know this is where you get into things like pelvic organ prolapse where you might see your uterus pop out your vagina or or you know. Oh my God. How could you see it? What does it look like?

It looks like some people actually see like almost like a bulbous kind of pouch coming out of their vagina. Wow. And a woman would just feel like pain maybe and not really know? They may not know. They just, the problem is this is women. We have so much going on in our pelvic region, whether we're talking our uterus or ovaries, whether you have endometriosis, PCOS, uterine, privates, like, it's hard or your bladder.

Like, we have trouble identifying what's coming from what. And pelvic pain might contribute to your urinary symptoms, but it might not be the cause, like the, like interstitial cystitis. There's a high rate of misdiagnosis. And so many people, yeah, because we do it, unfortunately. here in the U.S. as a diagnosis of exclusion, which is kind of a disservice to women because it could be so many other things and all we simply have to do is look inside the bladder to know because those that have pelvic floor dysfunction only and are experiencing urinary symptoms,

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88% resolved with pelvic floor physical therapy. So boom, right there, you've got an easy go-to. But the thing is, is you don't go and say, I'm having pelvic pain. I should do my kegels. Never, never, never, ever. Because you don't know what that pelvic pain is for. And Kegles could be doing the exact opposite of what you need. You could be tight and not loose.

You know what I'm saying? Yes. It could be the absolute worst thing you could be doing for your pelvic floor. It's not just always key this. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So the damage, you're just caught, if you're, you know, like you said, tight, hypertonic

is what that's called. Right. And you have a super tight pelvic floor and you start doing keels, you're going to cause more damage. Right. And it is best to go to a pelvic PT and get your pelvic. floor muscular muscular musculature assessed and then determine the options like we make actually it was the first created pelvic wand it was actually created by a dear friend of mine and then later she retired and I told her I would continue selling and optimizing um and and it's called the easy magic

therea wand and and so you can utilize this it's kind of got a curvature to it you can use it vaginally, you can use it anally, but you can use it externally to help release trigger points in your pelvic floor, in your core and help release those muscles that might be

tensing up because of stress or pain somewhere else in your body. Like I said, it holds all of that trauma, for instance, like there are many conditions called. There's a condition called vaginismis. And this is where that vestibule and the vagina sees up.

And you can't even put a tampon in there because it's so tight. And actually I read our, I didn't read. I was actually sitting in a seminar one time at the American Physical Therapy Association meeting. And it really stuck with me because it was an abstinence-based, religious-based household that she grew up in. and she grew up in this real, yeah, she grew up in this real, the case study grew up in this state. No sex before marriage, no sex before marriage, no sex before marriage. Yeah, close that up, yeah. Yeah, and she gets that wedding night and what it happens, she has a fear response.

Of course. And it takes her seven years to be able to release that trauma to have sex with her husband. Yeah, that's major. Of course, that's a mind-body connection. for sure. I mean, look at what they were telling her all that time. Her body listened. Mm-hmm. And that's the thing. We need, we need self-exploration of our bodies. We need to, that is our power as women is to explore our own bodies, to masturbate, to touch yourself everywhere from head to toe and understand what feels good, because that's your power, ladies.

And bringing that power into the bedroom is going to be a whole other experience. Yeah, as well as like what doesn't feel good. Like if you're having pain suddenly or you do feel like you're, you know, feeling different than you used to, like that's also a sign that maybe something should be, is going on, right? I had endometriosis. I always figured I had it because I had massive pain period, period cramps my whole life. And then they went away. I had nothing. And then it's like crazy how they don't. I mean, every time I go to the gynaecal just now, I pay out of pocket for an ultrasound because I just think we should always be having ultrasounds like every time we go get checked, but they'd never check women for ultrasounds. And I remember when I first wanted to have

a baby and I went for my first checkup, they're like, oh, you have a huge cyst inside of you the size of a softball and we don't know what it is and you need an Operation ASEB to get it out. I'm like, what the fuck? You know what? I had no idea because no one ever went up there. They don't do that for women, you know, at your regular gyno thing. And it turned out I had an endometrinoa. And when they went in, they're like, oh my God, you were on mass. You had an endometriosis all over. I had all the laser surgery. And then like you so many, and I was great, but so many years later I do believe I have scar tissue and it's causing problems. I felt like something was going on down there and I felt like I had a tight and the reason why I know about the tight pelvic floor is because that's what I started to think was happening to me and I went, remember going to my gynaecologist saying I think it might be tight or something's going on and when she went in there and she felt around and I think that this is what the wand is for because I've read about getting these wands and this is how you could use it. When you feel around you could like all of a sudden when she touched a certain area I was like ow like that hurts and that's where she's like yeah that's where you're tight. Right. You know, and I kind of like had these like weird symptoms and when and then figured out I do have a tight pelvic floor going on. And sometimes it seems to like come and go, you know. But I mean, I feel like, you know, anything could happen with women at all like at different times and just come out of nowhere. You know. And I'm like, oh, is this from. And like you said, it's like hard to sort of pinpoint. I'm like, is this scar tissue from my operation? Like you just never know. But the ones also though supposedly work, right? Like is that really helps? You could get you could loosen it up yourself, correct?

Yeah, so we actually, I wrote a book with a clinician at Duke University called The Musclell Skeletal Mystery, How to Solve Your Pelvic Floor Symptoms. And we really created this as an at-home guide. And the reason why we did this is one, most times pelvic floor physical therapy still isn't covered by insurance. Most pelvic floor physical therapies are self-pay. And there are only roughly, I think we're up to like roughly maybe 1800. pelvic floor physical therapist nationwide. And almost everybody, man and woman, needs pelvic floor physical therapy at some point in their life. Yeah, makes sense.

And so this guide is kind of an at-home option to be able to, and we're actually working with the FDA right now to make this a medical device. the first medical device out there specifically targeted to pelvic pain that is proven to be able to function at an at-home use and without any major guidance other than the instructions that comes with. And you're talking about the wand, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking about the pelvic one. And it's really easy to use. We make it out of a borosilic glass instead of silicone or medical grubon.

silicone and we do this on purpose because even medical grade silicone we all know can degrade over time you know we have to and we wanted to be able to provide something that really gave the leverage to get into those muscles and so that's why ours is it has both a bulbous end and then a normal tip end but it's made of this so it completely non-porous you can put it in the refrigerator for a cooling effect. You could warm it up if you wanted to. And just kind of give it away. So there are different ways in which you can use hot and cold with this. You know, you want to use it in combination with something water-based lubricant like our aloeglide. You just want to make sure that it's both whatever you insert in your vagina should be pH balanced and isoosmolar or you're going to cause damage your vaginal microbiome. Oh yeah for sure. I mean it's very sensitive I find I mean I've never even liked using tampons honestly like I don't know why but I just never I use big fat pads I love them I mean sometimes I'd have to use tampons but I always felt like pads or so much better I'd always have to warn my boyfriends I'd be like sorry I'm that have a big fat pad down there and I really care because I feel more natural I don't like to put anything up there that like you know I don't know um but could you just talk a little bit about because you did eventually wind up and which is kind of crazy because you had like I'm I think I read your story where you had like pelvic plane like

pain after like one of your babies, right, but didn't really get diagnosed or know what, where it was coming from, like a lot of women, right? Like, I didn't know what my pain was or what was going on, you know, till so many years later. Like how, like, what were your symptoms so many years later that sent you looking into, to look into it and what were you diagnosed with? And then how did you cure yourself, I'm assuming, with desert harvest products, right? Actually, no. In this case, yes and no. So, um, obviously, um, obviously. I'm, obviously, Obviously, so I got married. I met my husband when I was 19.

We've been together since we were 19. And so we have grown together both sexually. We've had two boys together. You know, we've had all of these experiences. And when I had my second son, the pain was debilitating, you know. And the reason is because, one, I should have had pelvic floor physical therapy. before I gave birth. Like I, we actually did a, a campaign in the UK, specifically is about trying to make pelvic floor

physical therapy part of the maternal process. Now when you go in as a brand new woman who's just found out that she's pregnant, you can go in there and you get to see everybody in one visit, your pelvic PT, your OB, everybody, you know, lactation specialist, everything that you could need is in one. place in the UK and it is a required part of your maternal care now. Wow. Which we desperately need here because it should be. Every woman should strengthen her pelvic floor because think about it.

We're pushing or maybe we're having carrying. I mean, come on. Yeah. Or even if you're having a C-section, you're still causing trauma down there. And so the best way to recover is to have that pelvic floor physical therapy before. But for me, I unfortunately... Did, and like all women in the United...

No one does. I mean... Yes. No. No. No one thinks of this. And I'm in my 20s back then. And I'm like, I ended up...

I was suffering. I can remember, you know, you talk about ministration and the pain with it. Yeah. And that was me. Like, I would be curled up in a ball once a month. And I'd go to... the ER and they'd say there's nothing wrong with you and you're just a drug seeker. And I'm like, excuse me, what? You're going to send me home like this? Like, I can't barely walk. And so to find out

later, I had endometriosis, I had uterine fibroids and I had PCOS. Wow. And wait, but how long did it take before they like, because first of all, you could see fibroids on a simple ultrasound. You don't you mean? Like, how do they not even just like asked to do that the first time you go for pain? You know what I mean? Exactly. Exactly. No, it actually took me many years to actually. So let's say I had my son in 2003. I officially got diagnosed in 2012. And was the diagnosis interstitial cystitis as well? Is that what you have? So that actually happened later. Interestingly enough, this was also, the interstitial Sestitis ended up being part of my journey because I had multiple excision surgery. So between 2012 and

2016, I had two excision surgeries to excise the uterine fibroids and the endometriosis and every time they came back. So by the third time they're talking about during surgery again and what options do we have right now? We have excision surgeries, maybe take some birth control, if that even were, You know, the one time I took birth control, I ended up with thyroid cancer. So I stayed away from it. It was a personal choice of my own. And then I ended up with, I was like, just take it out. Like I'm done.

Yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. And that's where a lot of women go to is a hysterectomy. And we shouldn't have to do that. We shouldn't have to have a part of our body removed to get the health that we need. But when maybe you don't need it. I mean, it's not the, like sometimes that's the, that's just what has to happen, but probably it doesn't have to happen in so many cases where it does. That's unfortunate.

No. Yeah. It's, it's overused in a sense because there are, there are not a lot of options in a clinician's toolbox. And so they, they try to mediate therapy for, like, look, I had four years of different therapies to surgery. two surgeries. And then finally in 2016, I had my third surgery, which was a hysterectomy. And part of that hysterectomy is they put a camera up my urethra to check my bladder. And lo and behold, I wake up out anesthesia and I find out that I'm diagnosed with interstitial cystitis. Oh, because when they did that, what is that called? I think I had that when I had IVF, they had to check me that way. What is that

called that procedure? Histoscopy. Oh, right. Okay. So, wait, so they, and they, they, they, that's when they died. And you had no idea this whole time. That was always made me a part of it? No, because you think about it.

I had so much going on pain-wise. I didn't know what pain was coming from where. Yeah, of course. I had absolutely no clue. Yeah. You know, it's just, just burning after sex was just a thing for me. So I didn't, I didn't know any better at that state. And unfortunately, that's still the path that many, many women have to follow because we don't have a ton of options.

I will say this. I am actually just beginning a new research study. So back to that lactoferrin topic. So one of the things is that endometriosis feeds off of your iron in your body. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that. Yeah. It's in your, so your paratineal fluid is in between all of your organs and your pelvic region. And in there are iron and molecules that live within that. And they think that that might, they theorize that might be a breeder of the endometriosis that also feeds off of that and floats through the peritoneal fluid.

And so they think that endometriosis might have something to do with that. So we are actually studying that more because we're wondering if we can create iron homeostasis on the body. Can we make a difference for endometriosis? And actually I'm using my daughter-in-law as a guinea pig right now because I'm like, I'm like, here, just take this. One pill a day, tell me how you feel, keep a symptom lock. Because she's got endiomyosis. And so I remember when I was told I could have that when I was having problems, you know, with IVF and keeping the baby. You know what I'm saying?

Like in there was someone, I remember a doctor being like, oh, well, you have endometriosis. If you and omitiosis, that means your uterus is, and I'm like, oh, my God, how much more bad news can I get? You know, I mean, there's all, then that can definitely be something that sometimes they don't tell you when you have endometriosis, that that could also be a thing. Yes. Yeah. No, nobody, no, nobody tells us we have to be. our own best advocate and do our own best thing. In fact, like, I had a cousin who just, as an example, reached out to me.

And she was like, she was like, you know, this is me. This is me. I posted some research study. And she's all like, I can't go 30 minutes without having to go to the bathroom. Right. And I said, and she's like, I have an appointment with my clinician tomorrow. What do you think I should ask them? And I said, ask them to look at your bladder.

them to, you know, proceed down these paths and see what the inside of your bladder actually looks like and what's going on in your pelvic region because that is not normal. And they, I just asked her actually today. I was like, hey, so how'd your doctor's appointment go? Did you get the stuff that you need and everything else like that? and she says that no her PCP

they they want her to have a hysterectomy oh my goodness that's crazy yeah so they had no reason that they wanted her

to actually look at alternatives look at the function of her pelvic floor look with a cystoscopy inside her bladder and see if she has a red ulcerated bladder

that might be that would be the signs of interstitial cystitis that could be leading to the frequency, or is it her muscle function that's causing OAB? Like what is going on? Maybe she's chronically constipated and it's pushing down on her bladder and she's peeing all the time. You don't know, like there could be all kinds of reasons for it. Exactly. Exactly.

And we have the options for this. Again, pelvic floor physical therapy can help with constipation as well. Yeah. And the constipating effects. There are so many different benefits out there. And the idea that they're just going to send her to a hysterectomy is the concerning part. And so this is still happening today that women are taking so many years, on average, you know, eight to 10 years to get to the point of diagnosis.

And then even after that, still having to suffer through the only options we have available, and, you know, losing a body part. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's because then a lot of times you take that out, you have to then go on all kinds of different medications to keep everything else going and depending how young you are. You know, I mean, it's just, it's like, it's all connected. So if you take out one big thing, you know,

it's going to lead to other kinds of things. I mean, I feel like that should be the worst case scenario. And sometimes it is something that has to happen. And that's great that we could do stuff like that, right? And save women from whatever that they actually need. need it. But I think it's over-prescribed and it's crazy for that to be the go-to right off the bat, especially for someone in your cousin's situation. But I think other women have faced that. And a lot times just people, I don't understand it because I don't believe anyone and I kind of always advocate

for myself and I go do my Googling. And I feel like if you Google correctly and you have half a brain, you could Google smart. So I could find the right information and then go back and maybe double check with different doctors to really make sure that I'm getting the right information. But so many people just listen to their doctor, they just go and they just listen. Without looking into anything or whatever. You know, how many women would go like your cousin to the doctor? And they say, oh, you need a hysterectomy. You're peeing a lot.

And just be like, okay, my doctor told me. I mean, people do look at doctors still. Like they're the end all. And if they say it, it's true. And, you know, I feel like nowadays we have so much more information out there that you, you know, you should always maybe like take a beat and try to look more into things because you don't know. And especially when it comes to women's health, okay? Because I've had a lot of different things as a woman.

We all have. Like you said, it's so complicated down there. I've had every different thing. I haven't been plagued by UTIs. I think I had one of my whole life. But that's not something I've ever had, but I've had it so many other different things. And, you know,

I don't think I've ever gotten so many clear answers. Like it took me to grow a softball-sized cyst to find out I had endometriosis yet. I was like in, like you, in pain, you know, staying home from school, missing work, you know, from pain my whole life. And that was just like, oh, that's normal. You have your period, you know?

It's like crazy and sad. But like this, what I love is, though, that you do have desert harvest. Like you, I mean, for your, journey, you had to go seek medical treatments as well, right, to cure yourself. But what I love is that your company that you built and the products that you have available to women are available. Like, I mean, if somebody is having that pain while they're navigating and trying to figure out what it's for, I mean, you do have that great aloe vera capsule that they could go get, right? Why don't you just

explain like some great products that people could get on your website, where they could get it and all that kind of good stuff? Yeah, so definitely. So the SSAV capsules for interstressual. Susicitis are available on our website at desert harvest.com. We also have all of those supplements that I mentioned are on there, but then we also have our aloeglide, that 100% natural vaginal moisturizer, sexual lubricant. We have the relivium with the 4% lydicane to get past pain barriers. We have the vulva and body bomb, which can be utilized on the vulva and act as a barrier between you and maybe irritants underwear things like that and we have lunation which is our period urinary leakage underwear we show no chemical ever touched an inch of fabric in those uh yeah it's very

important to us we use utilize our alo plants ginger and bamboo fabric in that and so and we made sure that they were sexy because but not digging into the abdomen so that that you didn't necessarily have to wear granny panties during that time of month. And also, if you have any kind of pain, you don't want something and putting pressure on that part of your body. I couldn't stand that. Exactly. So we made a stretchy lace out of our fabric.

Oh, I love that. Yeah. So it just sits right on the abdomen comfortably and isn't digging in. There's no elastic digging directly into your abdomen. So that was really important to us with that. We have the pelvic ones, the Easy Magic Thera ones. we have so many different options. I'm sure I'm forgetting something.

We have aloe rebalance, which is a feminine wash just to utilize for the vulva, wash the hair down there. We have our aloe fresh wipes, which are pH balanced lactobacillus, great to use for cleanup after sex. If you're having pain or burning when you void, they're great for that. I have them everywhere. in every bathroom I have in my car, my purse, take your pick, just to make sure I always have an aloe fresh wipe with me. So we do have those. They're just a viscous bamboo, so they're biodegradable. And like I said, I'm sure I'm forgetting something.

Well, let me tell you, I'm on your website, and I'm looking at these little undies that you created it, and they're super cute. And they look hot, even the back. I mean, it's not, you didn't just make them for comfort or, you know, like the medical benefits. I mean, they're super cute. They look like a really nice, like underwear. You know what I mean? Like, it's sexy. You know, they're not like a granny panties.

Yeah, you should be able to feel like a woman, even when you're, even when you're in kind of your worst time of the month. Yeah. No one would know. Yeah. Yeah. So what do they do? Like they, like if you get a leak or something, they absorb it? Like, what is, what is it?

Do you not have to use a pad? Like, what are these actually do? No. You don't have to use a pad. So these would function as a pad. This would have changed my younger life with me and my big pads wearing. Exactly, exactly, right? And like I said, we post the testing right there on the website.

So you see every batch is tested and what those tests say just to show that no chemical ever touch an inch of fabric. So that was really important for us to have on there. And then, yeah, they are actually really comfortable. And actually, I think I'm wearing a pair on the website. So I'm one of those people on the website. Wow. I love it. I love it.

I'm going to put your, I'm going to put desert harvest link in the description. It's desert harvest.com, right? Do you want to give out any other kinds of shoutouts? I mean, are you on Instagram or anything? You want to give a shout out? I'll put all your links in the description. Yes. So it is Desert Harvest, Alvara, on Instagram.

my Instagram is at HM Florio. You're always welcome to message me for questions. And then we also are on Facebook just Desert Harvest. Wow, I love it. I love all your products. I'm going to be looking. I love, like I told you, I'm like very into health and fitness,

and I'm always like into natural stuff. And I love what you're doing. When I'm looking around, I'm on here while you're talking, looking around now, you know, at your shop, I'm like, oh, I think, you know,

I see stuff that I'm going to try and get because I like what you're doing and I'm a supplement person. You know, I believe in it. So I think it's great what you're doing. I love your whole story. Thanks so much for calling in. I think this is a great sexual health Saturday episode.

So thanks for calling in. I'll put all the links in the description for you. Of course. Thanks for having me. Thanks, Heather. Have a good day. Bye. You too.

Bye-bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.

I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. and they're all true.

I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them, they're really short chapters, easy read.

You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format. back format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do

there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book. The book is called

Strickly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story. from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gang bang girl story. There's like I said,

17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person. I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show.

You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third person. There's an e-book available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the e-book. It's available. If you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks, okay? It's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with each other. That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures, and there's tons of

channels and we have contests over there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buys my book at any time access to my Discord. It is private. The only way you could get in is through me giving you the link. And that's why I think my Discord is so great because I have vetted people. It's not like it's just open to the public. So everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show and people that listen to my show are fucking great. So my Discord is fucking great. My book is great. You're going to love it. If you buy it, all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it and I will give you free access to my Discord. Send it to Strictly Anonymous Podcasts.gumel.com. You could find my book in the link in the description, okay? Or just Google it, Strictly Anonymous Confession.

Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. You can find it anywhere. You buy books. Send me the picture and I'll give you access to my Discord email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at Gmail.com. Anyway, thanks so much for listening.