Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 140 - Peter the Pantyhose Exhibitionist

Episode Date: August 22, 2016

Peter is very into pantyhose and he takes his fetish to the extreme. He likes wearing them, stealing them, jerking off in them, then returning them as well as encasing himself in them while jerking off, out in public and a whole lot more. Tune in to hear all the details plus hear a whole lot more about his pantyhose addiction. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today I have a listener who was, like I said, a listener of the show. And he lives kind of a double life. I mean, some people know about his panty hose obsession, one being his wife, which I think is pretty cool and different than like my other panty hose guys that I've had on the show. His wife knows about it, but she doesn't really know the extent. He goes pretty far with his panty hose fetish. She takes it pretty far. He's into a lot of different panty hose things. One being encasement, which I never had heard about.

I didn't know anything about. And he explains and goes into detail about his, about what that is and how he's, you know, how it works out in his life, like how he actually does it or what he does. And it's really interesting. You know, he crosses lines and boundaries. I even think like the one thing that he does may be illegal. I don't know. You're going to have to listen. But his name is Peter and he's really into pantyhose. And I'm going to be right back on with him. So stay tuned. I'll be right back on with Peter. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can can't talk about to anyone, to anyone, or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the

show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Peter, you're on the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you? I'm good. So Peter, I'm not even going to get into all the specifics on my intro or even now about your pantyho's fetish. You're the one that's going to lead us into it because you take panty hose, the pantyho's fetish to a whole other level for real. I mean, I've had a panty hose guy on before. I think it was Ryan, right? And that's who you listen to his podcast person that you wrote me in and like, hey, I have all this other kind of panty host experience. And he was like my first guest. I had on, I mean, I listen, I know that that. exists, but I just hadn't never heard or talked to anybody that was like totally into it. And you really are. And you've been into it from a very early age, right? So why don't you begin with that? Like when did you start or when did you realize and start getting into the whole

pantyhoes, you know, addiction that you seem to have? Is that what you call it an addiction or fetish? I don't know. Yeah, you know, I call it an addiction, an obsession, definitely a fetish. Um, so yeah, I call it all three. Um, when I talk, when people that, they know that I have it, um, I use all three terms. So it's just, it just a pair on my mood at the moment, I guess. Right. But you were, you were at a very young age. You got into Penaeos, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was really weird. Um, it was, um, like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I honestly can't tell you like, what, like, what, like, like, made me like them. But I remember that one of the first few times I had any experiences with Pantyhows was when my brother's girlfriend actually came over at once. And she used to be really like, because there's a huge age difference between me and my siblings. Like my oldest sister is in her late 50s and I'm 31. Oh, okay. So you were very, like, because I was thinking if your brother had a girlfriend, then you were around the age that he was.

But you weren't, right? No, no, no. I was like around, like I said, like around eight years old, I think, is what I think, where I was at the time. So I remember she came over and she would always like pickle me and like we would play with my toys. And she was always, she was very like very big sisterish towards me. And I would sit on her lap and whatnot and just hang out. And I remember one day she came over and I sat on her lap and I remember. like pushing myself back into her and like feeling her leg and they were very like obviously

I felt her legs before and they were normally like they were like skin on skin basically like but this time they had like a different feel to them almost like like this like rough feel with a softness to it as well so I kind of like it was like electricity in my hands And like I remember I felt them. And then I kind of throughout me sitting there watching cartoons on her lap with her, like I kind of like continued like brushing up against them and kind of like liking them and wanting to touch them more because I love that feeling. Right.

But let me ask you this because I mean at that age you could probably get a rouse, right and not really even know what's happening. Like do you think like you were getting a rouse or because like to me like she probably knew you were doing it but just thought, oh, that's so cutie. Like likes the feel of it. right, but, like, was it like an arousing to you, or was it just like, oh, this is like an interesting sort of feeling, like a feel, like, you know, the actual touch of it? I think it was arousing.

I do remember, like, like, I'm getting a weird sensation down there, as they say when you're young and, you know, your first experience, like a bone or whatever. Yeah. So I do remember, like, getting, let's see here. I do remember like, excuse me, like getting around and like and feeling them, like I said through, like throughout the day. And then she actually came back to visit this again a few days later. And again, she was wearing the painting hose. And I, I noticed.

And so I, of course, I needed to sit on her lap. I didn't want to play first. I didn't want to do anything. I wanted to sit on her lap and watch cartoons. Right. And touch her leg. And you were touching her leg the whole time? yes and no

I would I would like wiggle around or I'm like oh I'm slipping and I like have to push myself back and like grab onto like

above her knee or on her side and stuff like that and she didn't she didn't think anything of it right like at all and at that point you didn't really

probably as eight years old think anything of it either right I mean you just kind of just thought right I mean did you put two and two together at that young of an age?

No. I don't think so. Like, I knew that I liked it and that it made me feel good down there. But I, I don't, like, I don't recall, like, putting two and two together, like, let me, like,

Right, this is something... Right, but that eventually starts to happen. Like, at what age, like, do you start to realize, like, this is something that is, like, sexually arousing for you? when you start to use it like, you know, to jerk off or whatever, I don't know. Well, I started masturbating like around like nine or ten years old. Oh, finally, a guy that does it at a young, I don't know.

I always get these people on my phone, on my call, I mean, on my show, who say that they started at like 16, 15. And I'm like, that's really old. Like, I don't know. Like, is it, you know, isn't it more normal that you start like young by accident most of the time, right? But like, is that normal for guys? Right, yeah. I mean, well, my experience was, is that, like, I was, like, I had a lot of free time, I guess. Like, like I said, my mom, my siblings were a lot older than me. I lived at home with my mom by myself. So, like, I had,

I had a lot of, like, free time, and I would always have friends over because I'd be, like, lonely and stuff like that because I'd nobody else to play with because I, essentially had no siblings because they were also much older than these. Yeah, it's kind of like being an only child, even though you weren't an only child. Yeah. Right, right. And so, I mean, I just, like, I just had, like, experiences, like, as far as, like, waking up with, like, morning wood. And one day I was in the bath and we had, like, a jacuzzi tub.

Mm-hmm. And so, like, I would just, like, one time I was sitting there and I got hard and, and, and, it brushed up against it and it felt really good. And so, like, the way I figured out was I, like, put my dick in front of the jet and then, like, moved it up and down. And that made me come. And so that's how I discovered it. Right. And then after that, like, I told one of my friends, I was like, oh, my God, like, guess what I figured out?

And he's like, he's like, is that how you do it? He's like, this is how I do it. And then he told me, obviously, the way that normal people jack off, like, the whole, like, Oh, with the hand, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay.

So when did you, like, when did you incorporate pantyhoes into, you know, your sessions? I think it was around, like, I said, from the time I was, like eight, nine, like I said, my brother and his girlfriend. We're totally, got you into it. Yeah. Yeah. And so, and then, um, the teacher. So I would feel her legs up, like I said, and they're actually still married. They're still together and married.

Right. But yeah. Is your, let me ask you this really quick. Sorry, but I'll make, I'll remember to get back on track. Does anybody in your family know about your panty house thing or is this like a very secret private thing? Nobody in my family knows. I, um, I, um, I actually, uh, when I graduated from high school,

school, I moved in with my brother who lives in Seattle, and he's gay and a former drag queen. But I was always kind of embarrassed to tell him. So, like, I would go out and buy them, and I had them hidden in my room. Well, one summer, I came back home from the summer here where I live and now. And he actually, he had bought a condo while I was gone, so he was moving from his stuff. and so he called me one day and he's like hey I'm going through a room what do you want me to pack up and move for the condos and I was like oh this this this and that and he's like he's like there's a there's a bag in here with a bunch of um uh underwear in um do you want me to move that and it was actually my my painting hostache yeah and he was cool with it though like he didn't really sort of call you out on it totally no he didn't no and he never brought it up and he never asked me about it so That's cool of him because he probably knew what the deal was, but he was probably super open-minded and accepting, right, because of his lifestyle. So it's kind of like unspoken.

Right. Right. Okay. So you're after the whole thing with your, you know, you're very little and you like the feel of it and everything, when do you start actually, like I said, you know, at what age do you start like stealing them? Because you get into like all kinds of stuff pantyos related, you know, when does all that start to happen? I think around, like I said, I fell into that, that early, like eight or nine. And then I, well, no, I ate. For about maybe a year, I kind of, like, had it in the back burner in my mind.

But I didn't really, like, I really didn't think about it. I didn't, like, focus on it. I didn't masturbate with thinking of them or try to feel like my sister-in-law. And then when I was. was, I want to say like 10 and a half. My mom, my mom and dad had this huge house, and it was just me and my mom living there. And so my mom fixed me one day, she's like, hey, so, my friend, so and so and her husband, like, lost her place. So then their daughter are going to move in with us.

Is that okay? Like, you know, is that cool? Is that cool with you? And I was like, yeah, sure. Like, I don't care. She was, so I was about 10. I think she was like an 11. or 12.

I think she was about two years older than me. She, so they moved in, and I really, like, I was at the point where I was like, you know, stuff like that. Right. Until,

until I noticed that she wore panty hose. Right. And how old was she again? I'm sorry. And, like, I think she was not two years older than me. I was 10, so she was like 11, 12.

And she would wear, like, tanning hose with, like, skirt. stresses. In the summertime, she would grab them with shorts. Right. So she brought it back into the forefront for you, for sure. Yes. Yeah. She, for sure. She definitely brought him back into the forefront because whereas my sister-in-law would come by every so often and wear them, not every time, but just sometimes, like, she was, like,

there all, like, all the time. Right. Now, did you start stealing her stuff? Not at first. At first, like, I, like, I would just look at them and, like, watch her, like, what she was wearing them and stuff like that. And we played a lot. We were, like, wrestled around and stuff like that. And, like, I would steal them as much as I could, right? Right. But I never, like, the idea of actually wearing them or, quote-unquote, borrowing them from her, like, never crossed my mind. mine until one day I went into the bathroom and I was in the bathroom going to the bathroom and I looked over and there was a pair of panty hose of hers on the floor. Right.

And so I kind of, I looked at them and kind of like pushed them with my foot and like kind of like looked around even though it was in the bathroom about myself. Like, I don't know why. I looked around and I picked them up and like I held them up and I looked at them and it was one of the first time that actually I saw like the crotch of the panty hose because I've been telling I've seen like legs and pies obviously in panty hose right um and so the first time I saw the crotch so I like looked at it and examined it um I don't remember if I smelled them but um I remember like just being fascinated by them and then um I uh it wasn't until a few days uh oh I I took this

them, and you audit them and put them, I put them down my underwear so they wouldn't, you know, so nobody would see me with, like, a bulge of penny was in my pocket, right? Right, uh-huh. No, I've had guys that have stole panties and they do the same

thing, we put it down their pants. Yeah, and so I remember I waited until I was by myself in the house, and I took them out, and I remember, looking at them some more and then just getting completely naked and then just like kind of feeling them on my skin and just and then one day I just I just put them on I think I was like I was

almost 11 I think when I just thought I put them on and fell in love immediately right and but like when you when you say you put them on and fell in love with them like but you like this was like an erotic sort of experience for sure right yes yes it was definitely an erotic like masturbation session for like as long as I could do it. And let me ask you because like sometimes like you know like after you like come and you're done you start to think like what the fuck did I just do right? You know like depending on how you know what you sort of thought about while you did it. Like was there any time like in the beginning like right afterwards you were like what the

fuck was that about? You know what I mean? Like where you're like what or was it always just sort of very natural to you like this is what I'm into and you're totally cool with it. Um it was very like this is what I'm in. too. This is what, um, this is what I like and this is how I like to come and stuff like that. Um, so I, I, I never felt like, quote unquote, yokee. Right. Uh-huh. Or like, or like, or like a shame or anything. Yeah, that's great. Um, yeah. So I always was like, um, I always was very like.

Let me ask you though really quick. Are you straight or gay? I'm actually by. Oh, okay. Because the way you talk, you say like, you say you have a gay flare in the way that you speak. That's the reason why I ask. But, okay, so you're, yeah. I'm very, I'm very fine, boy. When did you know, did you know early on that you were into both? Oh, man, even before I got into panty, I fell in love with Ringo Star when I was like five. Oh, that was like your go-to guy, Ringo Star. Interesting. Right. There's a video of them, ironically, singing the song, boys. Uh-huh. And I was with my second youngest brother watching TV, and we were watching that video, and Ringletar sings the song. And so he's like, I was like, who's that?

And he's like, oh, let's ring the star. He's part of the Beatles. And I was like, wow. I was like, I'm going to marry him someday. And my brother was like, you can't. like you two are guys and and so it was yeah so ever since I was a little kid like I knew like I grew up like having crushes on my guy friends like in school and throughout like great school middle school and high school like and some of them like I acted on it and you know we messed around but like it was kind of one of those things like oh I'm gonna try it once but never mind that's not for me and for me it was always like oh you know whatever I'm here if you want to do it again yeah but let me ask you this when did you how soon after or was it before that you realized that you were also into women? Like,

because, like, did you always know that as well? Before Ringo or after Ringo? Like, when did women come into play? Well, I always,

I always knew I like women because that was the norm, I guess, like, quote-unquote norm, was that I would have to be into women because, like I said, that was what was normal and that was expected of me. But were you really?

I, I was. Like, I remember, like, thinking, like, girls were hot, like, like, girls my age, like, when I was, like, watching, like, some kids show or adult girls or, like, even when I found my brother's porn stash,

like, I remember, like, being amazed and turned on by the vagina and stuff like that. Right. But if you had to, say, percentage-wise, like, men to women as far as your attraction, would you say, like, 50-50 or you say like 70-30, 70 guys, 30-what? Like, what would be your percentage split up?

Because I think when some people are by, right? There's like a, some people are more one way or the other, you know? You sound like you're more guy into guys. I honestly, I wouldn't, I'd say that I would say 50-50. Right now I am married. I do have a wife. We've been married for four years and we have two kids. and I'm completely happy.

And I've also been in long-term relations with guys. And I mean, I say I'm 50-50 because they both, there's essentially, what I'm looking for. There's different things that each sex brings to the table as far as like, as far as like sex with the man. I don't like these being shoved up with me. Like, I do not like that. Right.

So you're a top. Yeah, I am a top. I'm very atop. But, like, I, um, but even gay sex, like, doesn't, like, like, it doesn't attract me. Like, I get turned on by watching it. But, like, I don't, I, I don't like to do it. Like, and sex with a girl is, yeah, it's good. So with me, like, I'm bisexual, but, like, sex with females, call more my attention

than sex with males. With males, I'd rather cuddle. I'd rather like make out. Even if I'm making out sometimes as a bitch because the whole stubble thing, I have big lips, so make my lips raw. Right. Yeah. And yeah, you know. I know.

It's terrible kissing guys most of the time with that fucking stubble. Right. And I have a full beard and a full mustache. So like, but at least it's long, long. so it's like you know and I condition it and I have beard oil in it and stuff like that's what's soft like a cloud but like I mean there's some guys with like that five o'clock chattel look and I'm like dude I'm not gonna make out with you if you have that shit because my lips are gonna be wrong right right that's so funny no and listen the only reason why I thought you were more guys than women is is not because the way you talk or I'll flamber it is it's because of the way you sort of explain like how much you were into Ringo and then what women you were like kind of like well I just realized I was into them because I was into them because I was it's like I was into them because I was it's like I was into them because I was it's like I was it to them because I was I was. was like the norm. So you just seemed a little bit more apathetic, but obviously not, right?

So you, so you're totally both. Yeah, and like with girls, like, Ringo for some of the same thing, I'm excited in my mind of being my first man crush. Uh-huh. But, like, as far as, like, females, like, I don't,

like, I don't remember, like, my first female crush, my first person that I, like, jacked off to, like, thinking, like, I'm not sex with them. Right. I don't think that for some reason.

And the reason that the Ringo thing stuck in my head is because when we get to, together and my brothers and sisters and my other families get you know my family gets together so we have a kind of reunion my brother always has to tell that story well it is kind of funny and it's cute too i mean it's kind of like why ring goes or i don't know out of all the beetles i don't know was he hot i don't i would have chosen him but that's interesting um but i thought he was the best fucking one that's your taste right but listen that for women like women are the ones that are wearing pantyhose right and that's what you were really into now when did you because like i have to get to

like you sent me some bowl And they were like fascinating. The last one was by far my favorite. I'm going to get a lead up to that. I don't know if you remember which ones you wrote and which one was last. But like you totally told me that you had, like you've done pantyho's encasement in public while masturbating. What does that mean? Like encasement, meaning like you're wearing them.

And like in public? Like what have you done? And when did that start? Well, I started wearing panty hose in public. just pantyhoes by themselves around the time I was maybe 1415 Oh yeah, you do beat out Ryan

Because if you remember on Ryan's call He said he never wore them Because then I was like he was kind of like me He's always nervous like what if he gets in a car accident Or what if you fall? You know what I mean? And then someone's going to find out You have more balls

You're like this would have been to it You're not overthinking it You're just doing it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah So at 1415 I started wearing in public. I was in track in high school. And so I would go for runs at home.

And so like I would, there was like a field where like down the road from where we lived. And it was kind of, we lived out in the country. And so it was kind of secluded. And there was like a, like it wasn't a track, but it was like this round like oval thing around the field. So I would run around that. And so my first experience with, like, wearing in public is I would wear, like, shorts, like running shorts, and I would wear panty hose, and I would go out there and run out in the open. Right. And, like, that was my first experience. And then I just became more and more gutsy from there. Well, what does that mean?

Well, like I started wearing more like in public areas. Like I started like wearing like when I was driving around, um, when I would go somewhere like the movies like I would wear, um, I would wear to the store. And just the thought like was it like the whole thing was what was like the turn on the fact that like you knew that you had them and nobody else did? Is that was that like the turn on for you? Yes and no The turn on was also So I remember in Ryan's podcast You asked them and laughed

If he liked the old lady Like nude-colored one Yes Yeah And those are actually my favorite Right I love like the I actually laughed when you said that on the podcast

Because I was like Oh my god that thing Like I love I love like the nude, like the suntan, those colors. I guess because it's like maybe very natural looking maybe or so there's got to be a reason for that. Probably most people, if I have another person on that is in Japan, you know, someone email me. There's got to be other people that are listening that know. Like email me and let me know if nude is your favorite color too.

Like that might be the go-to color for all people in Japanos. I don't know. Right. And so, but the other thing. is that I, so I'm very specific on the pennyholds that I like and wear and buy. I, so mine have to be, like I said, a skin tone color. And they have to fall within one of the three categories. They have to be glossy, shiny, or shimmer.

Right. Okay. And that's, it's the feel of them that you like. Yeah, the feel, I love the feel. You know, how they feel on my leg, on my crotch. I like to rub my leg while I'm wearing them. And I obviously, when I go on in the sun, I love the shine. Right.

But so people could see that you're wearing them? Yeah. And you're okay with that. So it's not really like I see. So your wife then must know and people must know then. Well, my wife does know. I told her when we were dating. that I had a, I think I used Pantyhole's addiction with her.

And so she knows. So she, and she's totally okay with it. And she indulges me in my fetish. And she's 100% with me wearing. So she's totally open with that. But as far as like family members don't know, but yeah, I mean, people, random people that see me out in public, they know. I mean, because they see me.

it's impossible not to notice them because like I said there some of them are just so shiny that like and not only that listen Peter they're so outdated I would be like oh my god like who wears nude panty right it's a fashion no no but wait let me ask you this like are you're like do you shave your legs or are they like hairy legs and then like your hair is like just stuck and like you claustrophobic underneath them like you or like do you shave them? I shaved them. Oh, okay. Okay.

Because it would look really gross if you didn't. Yeah. No, yeah. I, at first I didn't, at first I didn't, but I didn't really get hair on my leg until I was, like, older. And so, but now that my hair is, like, thicker and corset, I do shave up. Because, yeah, it does look kind of gross with the hair all matted down and gnarly. Yeah, totally. Does your wife know that you're by?

I'm assuming she does. if you're open to her about everything else. Yes. Okay, cool. Yeah, she knows. And now what about, so, and you, so when you say while masturbating, like, you've been out in public and have done that in front of people or sort of on the down, though? Well, let's go back.

Let me answer your question about the Panty Health Incasement. So basically what Panty Health Incasement is, is usually it's, usually it's, the quote unquote traditional encasement with panty hose is multiple layers of panty hose like from so you're basically covered in panty hose from your toes

to the top of your head and it's usually several layers how do you get them to the top of your head you said to the top of your head like the head on like the head where which head are you talking about your head, your head, head, head. Right, like your head where your mouth is and everything.

Okay. Yep, yep, yep. So, what basically is the way you do that is you wear pairs of panty hose like you normally was on your legs, like from your waist to your toes. And then you grab other pairs of panty hose and you cut a slit down the crotch. and you put your arms in the leg and then put your head through the hole. So now it's like a shirt. Oh, okay.

Yeah, and then you usually put, usually some people wear stockings over like the thigh highs on their head or they put like pairs of pantyhoes over their head. Okay. I usually do like, that's the only reason I wear, I have stockings is because I use them as hood and yeah but is it over your face or just over on top of your head so you look like a like a like a like a like a somebody would that when they put right like that kind of thing over your face like that but how do you go out of public like that well it's very tricky um i um well you just you just get the nerve even do it.

For me, yeah. Go ahead. No, keep going. For you? For me, it was, I was, the very first time I did it, I was on a business trip

in Denver. So I was in Denver, and every time I traveled, I always have a suitcase that the majority is just panty hose, really. And so, one day I was in the hotel room, and there was nothing to do because I was, I had to do.

day off and so I just was hanging out and I got horny and so I don't know like I remember reading stuff online about it and I remember watching videos and so I basically just like got I put the panting hills on my lake and on my top and I grab the stockings and like stuff them into each other and I put my long, like, a dress coat over and put some shoes on, and I basically went out, and I walked around for a little bit. Like, I had my hands in my pocket, so you couldn't see that they were, like, in panty hose and stuff like that. And I had the coat buttoned up. And I just walked around for a little bit and found, like, this secluded spot, like this alley type deal. Oh, and I forgot to mention, when I do this, um, when I do this, um,

the pantyhoes that I wear are like special pantyhills I guess you can say they actually have a sleeve for your dick oh that could come out of it so that that's out right so that you could pleasure yourself without having something on it right okay and so your dick's also like basically in case in pantyhoes too and so I just um found like this like secluded alley and just um made sure there was some some night hitting me and, um, you know, just went to town. Right. But you're, wait, really quick. Was your head covered with this pantyos?

No. Yeah. Yes? People weren't like, what the fuck? Like you're walking around in public. I've never seen anybody walk around in public with panty hose over their head. I would think that, and I live in New York City, so I see really weird shit. No, no, no, no, no, when I was, I'm sorry, no, sorry.

No, when I was walking around looking for a spot to do it. and I wasn't, my head wasn't covered. Okay. I didn't cover up until I found this. Oh, okay. So that's what people do. So you're sort of covered everywhere else, but nobody could, like, but you hid that. And then when you got to your secluded area, then a part of the whole turn on is that you,

you then also encased your head as well, right? Yep, yep. I take out, like, the stockings and put, like, a few layers on. and yeah, drop the coat and just start going at it. Have you just go to town? Have you ever got caught? I have, like I said in my email, I've been caught like on purpose and by accident as well. Right.

What does that mean on purpose, meaning you like you set it up or you wanted the person to find you? And then what has happened when you got caught by accident? I mean, I think both scenarios are interesting. Give me one example of both. For each, okay. So, for example, getting caught on purpose. So from where I live now, I used to travel back and forth between here and Seattle a lot for work and for, you know, pleasure. Yeah.

So one day I was, like I said, shiny bought the Shemory Pantyhoes are my favorite. So one day I saw these amazing, like, shiny, shiny, shiny pantyhoes on JCPenty.com. So I ordered them. and I got them. I tried them on. They were amazing. And so I said, thanks when I go on a real trip.

I'm going to wear these and just these. Uh-huh. So the time came up and I went, I was driving to Seattle, and I put on my, like, old running shorts from high school. You know, those runner shorts, the short ones. Uh-huh. And then I had the panty hose under those, you know, wearing those.

and, I mean, they're just like a regular shirt. Well, getting caught on purpose is what I would do, and if I'm totally dirty, I would stop at rest stops. Right. And I would, like, sometimes, like, hang out a little bit. I would lay on the grass. I would lay on the tables or I would go into the bathrooms and stuff like that. and I would I would

you know try to get caught or have someone bring up the fact that I was wearing a panty hose and people would and some would yeah definitely

and that was a turn on to you a major turn on yeah and then what would they say and then what would you do and then where would you go pleasure yourself or would you be pleasure yourself well

well like I mean different things were said like, um, like sometimes, um, a guy would be like, like, why are you wearing those or like, what's that you're wearing and stuff like that? And then I just open up, um, uh, about it, like, talk to him about pantyhose and stuff like that. Uh-huh.

Um, and sometimes I would pleasure myself front and front of them, you know, and. Okay, but so were these guys like into it as well then? Like it was sort of like, you know, listen, because we all have heard of this. A lot of shit goes down with guys in rest stops. Okay. You're not the first guy in a rest stop doing kinds of stuff, right? Like, I mean, this is not, right? A lot of gay action takes place at rest stops, right?

It's just a fact. We all know. So, like, when you say that you would then pleasure yourself in front of them, it, that guy then must have been into it and gay and, like, got into it, right? I mean, or did you ever expose yourself like a flasher to somebody? And they were, like, horrified? I mean, because that would be. be like illegal now?

Yeah, no, yeah. And that, I mean, obviously that's illegal. And so basically sometimes, I mean, sometimes like, what I was talking about panning was like, I would get around and hard and, and I would like start rubbing my dick over the shorts or like move the shorts to the side and start rubbing my dick, you know, I was talking to them. And sometimes they would like laugh and shake their head. walk away or sometimes they would

sit there and watch or it just depends really. One of the best things that ever happened was that I stopped at a rest stop and I walked into the bathroom and actually I wasn't even looking for anybody

because I was running late and so I walked into the bathroom and as I come out like there was nobody in the rest of it was dead So I'm walking back to my car And I hear this guy say, sir, sir And so I turn around And I'm like, yeah

And he's like, hey, he's like, I have a situation He's like, he hitched the ride with this guy But he stopped here because he needs to go to the bathroom And so we got out and when we came back to the car He was gone Okay He's like, we need to, we need to You know, I was wondering if you can give us a guide

And I was like, wait a minute, who's up? Yeah, exactly Exactly. Who's the other person? Yeah, he's like me and my wife. And I was like, oh. Interesting. And so I was like, I was like, okay, well, I was like, where are you guys headed? He's like, where are you headed to?

And I was like, I'm headed to Seattle. And he's like, okay. He's like, that should work. And I was like, okay, cool. And so we, he went and got her. And I was like, hey, I'm sorry, I go, but I go in today's day and age, I can't trust somebody to be behind me. so he said they're sitting up right and so he's like okay he's like that's fine so i got in he sat in between

us and she sat up against the door right and so no there was no mention of my cane heels up until then right and um and so we're driving down the road and they're completely quiet and i'm quiet and but i like look out of the corner of my eye and every now and then his wife would like look at my leg and so because I was in my head I was trying to think of how I was going to bring it up you know yeah

because it's different between like bringing it up with someone who's like completely open and you can walk away if it feels uncomfortable or if it feels too weird or whatever but it's different when these people are in your core yeah definitely not even like a foot away from you

because you're all playing on in the front seat right So I finally just said, I go, actually, I go, if you're wondering, ma'am, I said, yes, I go, I'm wearing panty hose. And so he says, cool. And she's like, oh, that's awesome, blah, blah, blah, you know. And she's like, you know, and she just made small talk about the pantyhoes. And she's like, she's like, I actually love wearing them.

She's like, I don't understand people who say they don't like them. She's like, I love wearing them because I, you know, she's like, I used to be a waitress. and I used to, you know, get late fatigued, like, through her pain hills and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, yeah, and so I explained my fetish. And the guy was like, well, I've never experienced anything like that before. And he's like, or I've never experienced him on a woman either. And so I was like, oh, man, I go, you're missing now. And he's like, well, he's like, maybe when we find jobs or whatever, he's like, I can buy her a pair.

So we were still like five hours away from Seattle. so we had to stop. So I fed them a couple of times. And there's like a Walmart on the, off of one of the freeway on the way up there. And so I stopped to get some stuff. And they had just gotten married, too, I believe, from what she had told me.

How old were they? And how old were you at this time? I was probably in my early 20s. And the couple? I would say I was like maybe like, the couple, they were older. I would say, She looked really younger than he did.

Okay. And he just goes older. They were kind of grungy looking, like, kind of dirty. Uh-huh. Like, um, anyways. So, you know, I was like, hey, like, um, I was like, let me buy you a pair of painting hose so, um, you can show your husband what they're all about. And she's like, oh, no, you don't have to do that.

And I was like, no, please, I'm like, no, please answer. And so, um, I bought her a pair of, um, of panty hose and she, you know, and I was like, I was like, I don't know if you know this. And I said it jokingly, but I honestly believe this. I was like, you don't, I was like, you don't wear, you know, panties with panty hose. You know that, right? And she kind of just giggled. And so she's like, I'm going to go put the mom in surprise him.

And I was like, okay. So she went to the bathroom, went into my car and then me and the guy, I found the guy again. And we went out. and she had them on in the car and, you know, and we took off and he was like filling up her legs and everything. And what did they, like how far did that did she take that? He like basically, she had down like this, like this. It was, I'm assuming at some point it was a skirt, but it was kind of like, holy and like dirty and stuff like that he I mean he was basically like loving her pussy and stuff

like that through him right and while you were in the car now did you do anything to yourself um yeah I um you know I watched and um I you know but took off my shorts and and was rubbing my dick while they were doing that right do you think that let me ask you this because when you told me you met this couple and they're like they had this weird story that they got left there like that because I was thinking they're like looking hook up right like do you think that just happened kind of naturally or do you think that they were looking for some sort of hookup situation um I honestly don't know um I I know that like when he was telling me about their situation he was kind of like very like we have no money

like we have no means of transportation like um the guy brought us here from I forgot where and he's like we have we we don't have any way to get out of here and like I said they were very grungy and very dirty right so they might have just been kind of hippie hippie like and those kind of people just maybe are just like that naturally so it wasn't like maybe like a couple that was like looking for some sort of situation and figure you know and that's what they did because look at how it wound up I mean it wound up to be exactly like what somebody would want if that's what you were looking for right but if you're not looking for It's a very interesting way for things to end, right?

Like who would have known for them that, you know, if there are still a couple now, they're probably like, remember that time? We met that guy and the rest of up. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. How the fuck did it? How in the end of that story of them just getting a ride end up with him and her and Paniho?

You know, it's kind of like an interesting twist. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember telling that story to my wife when I, you know, when I told her about my fetish. And she's like, you're kidding. she's like she's like that she's like are you are you serious and i'm like yeah i go i swear i go it happened exactly like that i go and i go of course when she told me that she liked running panty

hose like it immediately clicked like my dirty mind started going round and round like how can i get her in hand though right because she kind of gave you the not the okay but you know she didn't shut you down totally you know she left it open. Right. Yeah, that is a hot story though for somebody, I mean, for anybody that's into pantyhows, right? I mean, I mean, just like. Yeah. No. And. Yeah. No, you go on. I cut people off all the time. Just I'll edit that out. You're fine. So yeah, no. And yeah, he, like I said, we sat here and he rubbed her legs and he like was rubbing her everywhere and she was moaning. and you too

and they were cool with that they knew what you were doing and so everyone was happy. Yep. Yeah, yeah. And when we got into Seattle, they stayed with me for a night

in my hotel room. Uh-huh. And yeah, she kept the panty around like almost the entire time that we were together. Did you guys do it up again like that night? they they had sex a couple of times um i don't think that he was comfortable with me like having sex with her

um because he was very like kind of like almost like possessive of it like he always wanted to have you know he didn't want like he would um like i would sit on the bed and watch them and he would um she would like kind of like move in a way so I couldn't get closer and whatnot but I saw them I saw them have sex a couple of times and like I said

she wore the panty hose and she wore the pantyhose after and yeah yeah that is interesting but what and he so they were obviously like open like open to stuff too I don't know if they like set out

to make that happen but it's interesting that those are the kind of people you picked up and that it just turned out that they were as open as you. I'm surprised you never got, and when I say oh, it's illegal, I don't really give a shit whether, you're not like raping anywhere or anything, but I would just think like, you know,

if you're in a rest up and that's not something like, you know, that you're looking for, you might be almost like a flasher scenario that you're like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? This person because like how do you know who this person is doing it to? Like nobody ever reacted badly to it with you?

Um, yeah, I had some bad reactions as far as, like, another thing I do like is I, um, obviously when I, when I'm going on road trips, I wear the short shorts and the pantyholes. Uh-huh. Um, but another thing like that I do when I'm also like, um, when I feel better rest out to go to the restroom or whatever, like, I make sure that, uh, the shorts, like are pulled down. sort of than they should be. You can kind of see my ass and like stuff like that. Right. So sometimes like I've had guys walk in. They're like,

Jesus Christ, you cover your fucking stuff up or like just random. They say random shit. They go into a doll and, you know, or I've had people call me a freak or a faggot and stuff like that. Right. No, because in a way you are sort of there trying to hook up, right, on some level. So it is like

Kind of crossing a boundary with everybody that walks in, right? But that's like what obviously like you're into Right? That's like the turnoff like you're kind of like Not forcing yourself on people but you could be it could be like Looked at that way by somebody who's not looking for that kind of Scenario right? Except that there are people that are at rest stops that know that this kind of stuff goes down right? Right, right? Yeah, no, and definitely

it's one of those things that's like a Russian roulette like, am I going to get lucky and find what I'm looking for or am I going to find that undercover pop? Right, but that must be the turn-on, right? For anybody that's into being like an exhibitionist, because there's a little bit of an exhibitionist in you, right? Like there are a big part of that in this scenario, right? I would say a big part.

Yeah. Well, I think in general, especially with Panningho's involved, I'm a big exhibitioner. Yeah, totally. So I think that that's what that's all about, right? I mean, for sure. Because when you throw, like the one thing about the pain is that when you throw in the public thing, too, that to me takes it to a whole other level. I know that you did say that you became so addicted. You used that word right in the email that like you would spend on buying them that you would spend entire paychecks. Now like how is that even possible? I mean, how much are like, I mean, listen, you could buy a good pair of. you know, stockings for like $60. I know that, right? But you could buy another pair for like six books. I mean, how, I mean, either you had a really bad job at the time of yours.

I mean, how you spent a whole paycheck on pantos? Like, how many pantos are you buying? Well, I actually had a really good job at the time. I was a district manager for a company. Yeah. And I had an hourly wage plus all the stores that I ever saw. I got a commission on what they used to sell. And so my checks were pretty high.

I would average about maybe like $16,700 every two weeks. Right, right. And you would spend all of that. Well, I would obviously pay my bills. Like I'd be rent, my calls, my cell phone, credit card. And I would have about, you know, yeah, I would spend like, I would pay all my bills on the first of my first paycheck of the month and then when I was left over and the second paycheck yeah I would spend on pantyhills I actually have a storage unit go ahead no a store you have a storage unit

I have a storage unit um with you know those big like totes type deals with the lids and stuff like they come like solid colors usually the what um those totes you know it's a tote like at the store like the store stuff A tote? Oh, okay. Yeah, just store stuff. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. So I have, I have about, I would say about me, I think I'm going on almost 40 toast. Wow. Full of pantyhoes. Full of pantyholes. New and used. And, you know, well-worn ones. Right. And ones that, listen, when you say you, you can, we'll get back to the whole money thing of spending so much money on them to buy them. But you've also stole. them from people, right? Because you say borrowed in quotes, right? So borrowed means like, you sort of like, are you one of those?

Because I've heard this many times in my podcast that people go to family functions and they go into like their cousin's room and steal their panties or their panties and shit. Like have you stolen them from like people as well? Yeah. Yeah, most definitely. I, um, for me like nothing like no one's panty hose are off limit in my opinion. And like, it sounds kind of like fucked up and stuff. But like, for me, like, no one.

It's kind of funny. Like, nobody owns their panty house if you're, if you're around. Meaning like you will go into their room and like you will just rifle through the drawers until you find where they keep them. And then how many pairs will you take from one person? It depends. It really, really depends. on like, again, if they fit my criteria that I like,

that my pant aos have to be. Like, also, like, if they, it depends on how many are in there as well. Because, I mean, even though I say, like, nobody's pants are off limits. You're not going to take their only pair of pantos or their only new pair. That'd be so rude.

Yeah. I might wear them and jerk off in them and then put them back, but I'm not going to take them. Will you wash them after you trigger or you, no? No. Right. And does some part of you get off on the fact of thinking, knowing that they're going to put

them on and your jizz is in there? Or you just don't wash them because you're lazy? I mean, like, what is the reason you don't wash them? Both or do, like, a part of it is like that's the turn on? Part of it is the turn on of knowing that I wore them. Yeah. use them to jack off on and that my comment on them. Right.

And now who have you done that to? I'm assuming it has to be someone like that you're as close to you because you're going there, you're stealing them, you're going home and then you're coming back. Like who are these people that you're stealing from? It's not just total strangers, right? Are these family members, friends, relatives? Like, who are these people? Yeah.

A lot of family members. I do that I have friends girlfriends if they wear so relative so friends girlfriends yeah yeah friends and girlfriend

so this must be a very secret of thing that you do right I mean or does your wife even know about this and she thinks it's funny I mean like or do your friends know like I mean you must do this on the down low for sure no definitely for sure on the down low like I said, my wife knows about the fetish. She doesn't know every thing about the fetish. Like she doesn't know about the storage unit.

Oh, she doesn't. She probably doesn't know that you spend so much money on them. And how come? Like, why do you not tell her, like, where do you draw the line of, like, what you tell her and what you don't? Just because, like, I think, like, even talking to you, like, about this, like, like, it's still kind of, not makes me feel ashamed, but kind of makes you think, like, I'll share what she gets to.

think about me. She's going to be like, God, this dude's a fucking pervert. You know? Right. I see. Like you're, it's like the judgment. You're afraid of the judgment because people like might look at you that way. Right. When most of the time, this is what I always try to explain people. Like, even if someone, I mean, I don't judge anyone. I don't really care. I think it's interesting what people are into. You can't really help it. Right. Like, this is what you're into. But I think that, uh, what I always try to tell people when they're nervous about what other people think. I'm like, they think of that for like one second. Then they go back to thinking about themselves. That's what most people do is they think about themselves. Nobody really. gives a shit about anybody else for that long of a time period. Anyway, so who cares? But I get it because it's your wife, right? Like, so you don't want her to start to think that you're out of control with it or something and then maybe get worried. Right. Yeah. And that's the thing is, too, is that I have, like, yeah, I don't want her to worry and be like, well, I don't feel like our money is saved.

Like, we have, you know, we have a checking account, you know, we have things accounts, you know, and stuff like that. I just don't want her to be like, I'm scared that you're going to go spend it all in pain to go someday. But what about that rest of thing? Do you still do the encasement sort of out in public thing? I'm assuming you must, right? Or did you get that out of your system? No, I do that. She doesn't really know about that part.

Like, she knows that I, like, like, I've done things in public, but I got the encased in part. So, yeah, like, when I travel for work, like, I, I, I, do it still, you know, by myself and stuff like that, yeah, definitely. Yeah, you just have to be careful with that because you could, like, like you say, like finding that undercover cop or whatever, like you could be arrested, no? Yeah, yeah. No, most definitely. And, you know, that's part of the rush and that's part of the whole deal that is, is like,

well, like, this turned a neon. But yeah, I think always, it's always, even when I'm stroking my dick and I, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling my body up in the panty hose. Like that's still in the very back of my mouth. Right, right, totally. But like you said, that's a part of the rush. And now let me ask you this, because most of the time with like addictions and things.

And this could be kind of an addiction because when you put yourself in a position where you might like be arrested and you have to go to that. You know, I think that that is, you know, more likely to be an addiction because you're literally like. you can't stop yourself, right? Like, and most of the time, what I think or what I know with addictions is like, you have to keep pushing yourself to get off, right? Because like after you do something for a while, like you need more and more of it, right? Like have you, like, what comes after the public encasement? Like, have you been thinking of doing other things?

Is there anywhere else to go with what you do that you've been toying with? Or like, is that as far as you can't, it could really take it? As far as right now, that's as far as I take it. The way it works with me is like once I come up with an idea, I have to do it. Right. Like, I have to do it. Right. Which is weird because then it wouldn't leave me like, for example, when I was,

oh man, how old was I? I want to say I was maybe like 20. I lived in a really small town. I was doing, like, I got this job and it was in this really, really small town. And there was, I had to go by a bed because I didn't have a bed. So I went to like this furniture store. And it was just like this warehouse type deal. Like there was no one ever in there.

I went there like three times. There was like nobody ever in there. There was just the sales guy. So I one day I was like, oh my God, I'd be so hot to wear the paint. I was in there and like talk to the guy like normal and see if he notices. And so like I was like, no, no, no, that's too much. And it nagged me and nagged me and nagged me until I finally did it. and you did do it

and I went into the yeah yeah I walked into the store and I had some panty heels on and yeah talk to the guy like normal and so you right so you're just like so but there haven't been

any new thoughts in your head is what you're saying because if it did come into your head something you would do it you have to do it it's just like that's the type of person you're you're not like Ryan who was built more like me

he over he was an overthinker right and that's what sort of cockwashed him from sort of going that extra mile right i totally understand that because i'm more like that way but i think you know somebody like you is there's more people like you who just followed their feelings like this is what i want to do and they sort of just like do it and they don't think about the consequences so much even though the consequences for you are part of it really as far as the public thing goes right when you get that deep and right Right. And then, yeah, and then the same thing goes with, like, the consequences could be huge. I mean, like, let's say that you're my friend's girlfriend.

Yeah. Okay. And I was at your house. And then all of a sudden you go to dress up one day, you're putting on your panty hose, and there's a lot of come on the cross. Like, what do you do, you know? No, I think it would be, well, how would they ever put two and two together? But what would be really bad as if like somebody caught you putting them back and knew for sure. And then the word got out that this is what you do. And then that would be like, oh my God, right? Because you would be busted.

Because how would she know it was you? And how, you know, I mean, like how, like, I'm sure people have a lot of people at their house. So you just, but if you got caught because like, I mean, when you're like going in people's rooms and taking it, where are the people? Like, how do you, like, are you, I'm assuming that the rush of getting caught even taking them and putting them back is a part of it too, right? Right. No, yeah. I mean, and like you ask where the people, like, it depends. Like, sometimes I house it.

Sometimes, like, sometimes, like, they're downstairs and I'm like, I got to go to the bathroom. Right. And then you just run into the room and just like start looking for something. Yeah, yep. Like our old, for example, our old landlady, she was hanging all the time. And she was like an older lady. And so I, she lived like down the road from us and they were going on vacation. And she had asked me if I would go and make sure that her plans were getting water.

stuff like that and made sure that, you know, everything was in the house and whatnot. She had that, so make sure they had food and water. And so when I went over there one day, like, I went to her bedroom, open the drawers, and started looking around, found a drawer full, you know, a panty hose, took a couple of, quote-unquote, souvenirs, and wore a pair and, you know, unloaded on them. And then brought them back? been back. Yep. Oh, wow.

I know, I know. This is like shit that people do. Like, I've had guys that are into panties do stuff like this with like family members, cousins. Like, it's just always interesting because you just never really know what's going down. Yeah. And I've done it to my cousin's pantyhills too. Like, you know, my cousin's panties. Like, I've done it to them.

I've done it to my, you know, my, you know, whoever. but let me ask you this when you're doing it to your cousin is it like the turn on that it's your cousin like is there is there a little bit of that in there too um yes and no um it's it's it's mostly just the the panty hose um and and stuff like that that gets me going now let me yeah you know no we're almost we're at a little bit like at the hour and i want to get to the last bullet which was my favorite, which you were like, I've taken ballet classes just so I can wear pantos. I don't know. That to me was so funny. It was like, yeah, that makes sense, actually. And they do wear very shiny pantyhows, right? Like, how long did you, how long were you into it for?

Well, I took ballet for six years. And I took ballet for six years. And yeah, I wore, they called them tight because they're like a different. Right, right, totally. They're thicker, right? Yeah, like they're a thicker. Yeah, you can't see through them. Uh-huh. Um, and yeah, I took Kelly for about six years and um, it was actually amazing and like, I've always been in shape and they actually got me more in shape and more toned because of the stringier stuff and it was a bitch to learn how to do a lot of that stuff. I'm sure. I was always turned. I was always turned on and like the girls in there. Like, I, yeah, I was like a panty hose happen.

I could imagine, but like, how did you hide your heart on? Like, that must have been, like, are you able to do it? Like, were you able to keep that in check while you were, like, you know, doing the actual ballet because, I mean, you're wearing that tight thing. Right. And the way it worked was I wore the tights or panty hose. And I wore, like, a unitarred over. Uh-huh.

So it's basically, you know what a unit target is. Yeah. So I would wear one of those over. And then sometimes I would wear also a dance belt, which is like a cup. And it just makes it look like a bold. So you can't tell anything. Oh, oh, that's cool. So it just keeps it there.

So if you're hard not doing whatever now, it doesn't grow. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So you really are the type of person that if it gets in your head, you have to do it. Like you were that into panty hose that you like put yourself through physical torture of learning how to do ballet, which is very hard, like you said, and strenuous. And you got a killer body just so you could be turned on, right? With the panios. Right. Yeah, you do take it to

a whole other level. Let me ask you this while. Yeah. No, you go ahead. No, you. I was going to say, and that's not even half of it. Like, there's still, like, I was thinking in my head way before we were getting,

you didn't get together to talk, like, I was like, shit, I need to tell this, I mean to tell like that. I need to, oh, no, not that one. That was too much. I need to tell us this. Yeah. So there's still a ton of other stuff that I've done that I, you know, that, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, well, we're going to do it.

We'll definitely do a part two if there's tons more stuff. I know, like, you know, I tried to cover all the bullets that you had in your, you know, email. But what always happens with me? Because I go down all these other kinds of directions because I love to, I just, you know, it comes in my head and then I start to think of these other things. and I'm just curious by nature, so it goes in so many different directions.

But I'd love to hear all the other stuff, too. That's what I think people like. That's what people like to listen to, you know, because I think, like, if I'm wondering the things that I'm wondering after I hear something, I figure other people are wondering the same thing. You know what I mean? I'm just, it's coming, right? So I think that's what people are listening for.

So I'm sure. Yeah, most of it. Yeah, right? Like people wanted to know all the stuff I wanted to know. It's just that because you still have. so much more. It's like we definitely do Peter the Pani-ho's what, I don't know what that last word is that I'm going to title it,

but there's a good, there's a good title here somewhere. I don't, you know, we're going to have to do it. We'll do it part two with you if you'd like to call back in and give up, you know, just, you know, the other things that you've done. Yeah, no, most definitely. And I have to, I hope I didn't bore your listeners with my boring stories and pervertis. No, first of all, that's what people listen for, I think like look at you listen to Ryan, right? And he didn't have, first of all, I think people

like the more hardcore, right? And the more extreme people like it. Right. And you listen to Ryan and you liked him and he didn't do half the stuff you did. But it was interesting. I think it's just always, I mean, for me, it's always interesting to talk to a total stranger, get on the phone, somebody, know nothing about them and then just peel back the layers. You know, and if like I'm like that, I figure other people are. And there are other people like that because I have thousands of people who download my podcast a week and each one. So there's definitely no way you bored anybody. It was definitely interesting. I do hope you're a little careful with your encasement and you don't get like you don't take it to a crazy level that you get actually busted.

But, you know, that would be interesting for the show. But, you know, I'd love to have you back on too. And so we could get into all the other stuff that you did as well. But no, this was definitely not boring at the slightest. Yeah. Yeah, most of that I know. I'm glad to hear. And yeah, and I'll email you a list of other things just by quick, like quips just so I don't forget them. Because like I said, I've been doing this for Goddom so many years now that I've done so many things. I mean, you can, I guess you can pick and ask me questions from the list that I email you. Yeah, it's bad. It's like what you did on this one, like for me, like you put those bullets so I knew what we were covering. But like, yeah, put that down in the next one. And that's how we'll, that's how we'll know to stay on topic or get in all the stuff. You know what I mean? It's perfect. It's helpful. Awesome. okay thanks you have no idea how excited I was when you email me back the next day yeah no I love it I've been getting it's like crazy because I could mostly go on Craigslisting fine people but like lately I've been getting so many people who listen to my podcast writing in which I think is like really great because it's easy for me I have a baby now so it's you know really easy for me I have so many people emailing me just without me even having to go look and it's great I have yet to talk to somebody who you know isn't interesting to me and interesting to everybody else and I'm and interesting to everybody else and

So, you know, just when you think you've heard it all, you hear something new. Right. Do you know what I mean? You need Peter the Pantyho's third word, right? Yeah, exactly. And in case, Matt, like, I never heard of that. So it's a whole new, you know, it's a whole new thing. But I think that there's probably tons of other people like you out there.

So, you know, we'll talk again. Peter, from Panicose, cheater. All right. Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you so much. Have a great day. You too. Bye, Peter.

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