Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1474 - How Single Guys Can Navigate Swingers Clubs, House Parties, Hotel Takeovers & More w/Antonio

Episode Date: May 31, 2026

Antonio called in to talk all about how single guys can navigate swingers clubs, house parties, hotel take overs and more. Tune in to hear all the details including how and why single guys are conside...red the lowest on the lifestyle totem pole, what to do and not do when creating a profile online, why meet-and-greets are the best way to get started and what to expect at one, how to make a great first impression and why personality matters more than looks, how much single men pay to get into swinger clubs, how to dress and act while in a club, the rules every newbie should know, why solo guys can't usually enter play areas on their own and how they get invited back, how to approach couples, handle rejection and tell someone no, why house parties can be easier to navigate than clubs, where to find lifestyle events and hotel takeovers, how to avoid scammers, why networking is the key to success in the lifestyle, and how being part of it has completely changed his life plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  or Pre-order audiobook version ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://VB.Health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bollandbranch.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code STRICTLYANON for 20% off plus FREE shipping ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.promescent.com/kathykay15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - New customers get 15% off entire order, automatically applied at checkout ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beduc.at/pd2618-anonymous Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Rythm.Health/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠ ⁠for 15% OFF your first month PLUS FREE shipping  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much. Is real problems?
Starting point is 00:02:22 Your friend know that you're banging her or no. No, he has no idea. And anything goes. Motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehide your wits and change. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or X, follow the show at Strict Anonymous.
Starting point is 00:02:46 If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because I change everyone's voices. People change their names. So if you have an interesting, naughty secret life that you want to talk about, while remaining anonymous or you don't even need a naughty life story on anymore. I'll talk to people with regular interesting life stories for my Sunday episodes. You could be on the show. All you got to do is send me an email at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com or go to my website Strictly Anonymouspodcast.com and click on be on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I also have a sexual health Saturday series. So if you have a really interesting health story journey that you want to talk about, email me as well. have a naughty confession that you want to leave on my confessions hotline. You could do that 24-7. The number is 347-4-203579. Make sure you're in a quiet place. So many people call while they're driving and I can't hear shit and I can't use those confessions. Some of the confessions, though, I changed the voices, by the way, on the confessions. And some of those confessions make it onto a confessions episode where I talk about them. All the rest go on my Patreon. Now, listen, if you're irritated by my intros, join my Patreon. Because for just seven
Starting point is 00:03:55 dollars a month, okay? You get every single episode. I do seven of them a week. You get them early. You also get them intro and ad free. Okay. You also see anonymous hot picks of all of my guests. That is all over on my Patreon. Like I said, it's only $7 a month and you could cancel it any time. Now listen, if you join my Patreon, I always tell people that I will throw in a link to my private Discord. Now, my private Discord is a place where everyone gets to talk to each other. My Court is super fun. Over 6,000 people that signed up over there. Everyone talks to each other. People are hooking up over there. We have a lot of contests. We have a dick pick contest coming up. Okay, you can win 350 bucks, I think, is what I give for the contest. That is starting on May 15th, and it will run for month. So make sure to sign up to Patreon to get into Discord so you could take part in that.
Starting point is 00:04:49 You could also get a link to my private Discord. If you buy my book, I have a new book out. It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. That book is available in paperback as well as an e-book. And the audiobook is finally available for pre-order. It's hard to find because it's still on pre-order. But if you go to the description, the links to the books on Amazon, as well as the audible book are in the description. If you buy the book, just send me a screenshot and I'll send you the link to my private Discord. You'll love my Discord. Okay, it's great.
Starting point is 00:05:24 You'll also love my Patreon. It's great. Last thing I want to talk to tell you about is I do have a great free trial that you could use for SDC.com. SDC.com is like the world's largest online adult dating site, but it's so much more than a dating site. I mean, you can use it to hook up with people instead of threesomes and all the kind of stuff that people do on my show, but you can also use it to find out about meetups and events in
Starting point is 00:05:47 your areas. as well as learn stuff about the lifestyle. They have so much information on SDC.com. And if you use my code 37712, you'll get a free trial that's 37712. Or just go to the description and click on the link. And it'll take you right there and set you up with the free trial. So anyway, today's a fun episode with Antonio. Antonio's been on the show before.
Starting point is 00:06:09 He's a single guy that has successfully navigated the lifestyle. He's been there, done that everything, okay? He's been on twice before. Episode 654 is his origin story. You'll find out how he got into the lifestyle and all that kind of good stuff. And then he called in again with updates with all the crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I mean, he's done gang bangs, lesbians, three-sums, four-sums. You name it, he's been there, done that. And he's just like this average guy. I mean, he starts off talking about how he's not like this Adana's model type guy. He's just like this average regular dude that has been able to, like I said,
Starting point is 00:06:41 successfully navigate the lifestyle, the swinger clubs, parties, that whole world and be very successful in it. And it's not easy because we do start off talking about how, you know, the single man in the lifestyle is like the lowest guy on the totem pole. And you're going to hear why. You know, he explains why and he explains, you know, how you could sort of get in there and, you know, not be the lowest guy in the totem pole. And he talks all about that. Because that's not who he is. He's been very successful. But he knows what it takes. He talks about, you know, getting on to websites. He talks about SDC. He talks about a lot about meet and greets and
Starting point is 00:07:23 how that's like the, like the, a great first stop. And he talks about why and what to expect there and what you should do and not do. And then he talks about swinger clubs as well as what to expect, how much it's going to cost you as a solo guy, how you could go with somebody else. He talks about, you know, the rules and stuff when you're there and what you can expect, how you should dress. He talks about then swinger parties and what goes down there and how you should approach couples and all that kind of good stuff. I mean, he gives a lot of information that when we talk about hotels, takeovers as well. He really gives you the skinny on all of these different things from the perspective of the single guy. And like I said, he talks a lot about what you should do, what you
Starting point is 00:08:03 shouldn't do. He starts off I forgot in the beginning talking a lot about like how to set up a profile and what not to do because he did all the what not to do at first. And then somebody was like, hey, don't fucking do that. So he talks that. about that as well. He's super fun to talk to. He's a really nice guy. He's got all the information. Like I said, he's been in this lifestyle as a single guy successfully for a very long time. Been there, done that. Listen to his episodes. He's done it all. Okay. And he's here to tell you how you could get into the lifestyle if you want to as a single guy. It's super interesting. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Antonio.
Starting point is 00:08:37 This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Hi, Antonio. Welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Hey, Kathy. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me back on. Yeah, I love that you're back on because we're going to be talking about, you know, guys swinging solo. There's a lot of like, you know, I think I posted a question on, uh, Patreon. I love doing poll questions on Patreon because there was a woman I just aired Samantha who talked about swinging solo, right, when she was a little bit older. And I was asking guys, like, or just asking people in general, would you go swinging solo? Because I think it takes balls for
Starting point is 00:09:13 anyone, whether you're men or a woman. But, it's a whole different world for a guy, you know? Let me just explain real quick, though, because we're not going to get that big into your backstory, because you've already been on and told your whole backstory, which is super interesting. We'll get a little bit of it on here. Sure. You called in before Anthony, Antonio, your episodes are 654 and 843.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Those were, like, the first one, 644 is your whole backstory, a lot of information. And then 843 was like an update of all the naughty things you've done. You've been there, done that everything. Okay, you have a lot of fucking fun. And you happen to be very successful. as a guy in the in the lifestyle and it's very controversial guys solo guys in the lifestyle right because even when I put it in the pulse people were saying like oh it's the they're like the lowest of the total pulse I'm like they don't treat them bad at all like everyone thinks different things you know what I mean it's you're kind of like a unicorn in your own sense right a single guy yeah it's it's just different there's different levels to it and you know of course the ones that look like a model and are tall and athletic yeah they're not going to have any problems it's just different levels to it and you know of course the ones that look like a model and are tall and athletic yeah they're not going to have any problems it's the ones that are average like me that have to, you know, maneuver it a little bit differently. Yeah, but that's what makes you even more interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:10:21 Is that you're just this regular dude in the lifestyle. You're not some like well-hung Adonis guy walking in like in a movie, right, and getting all the checks. You're just a regular guy. And I'm sorry, there's more regular guys out there than models, right? Anyway, so we're talking to the majority of people out there, right? And I think a lot of people. And, you know, we're going to talk about, like, how to navigate the lifestyle. You're also like, oh, you'll talk about, like, meet and greets and setting up, like,
Starting point is 00:10:49 accounts on SDC or, like, any kind of adult site, right? And how to act in clubs and parties. I want to go through all about it because I think all of that is, like, super great. Like, when we talk about the lifestyle, let's just talk about that one thing, the stigma with the solo guy. Like, are you the lowest person on the totem pole when it comes to the lifestyle? The single guy? Yeah. Yeah, it pretty much is.
Starting point is 00:11:14 And the main reason that you always get is single men bring nothing to the table. Like they are there by themselves looking to get laid, not to make friends. They just want to fuck somebody's wife or fuck somebody's girlfriend. And so, but the way I look at it is that's the same thing as a couple with the one penis policy. They're not bringing anything to the table either. They have a woman that you can look at, but you can't touch her. You can maybe watch her play with your wife or your girlfriend, and then that couple, they're both going to, you know, mess around with your woman, and you get to watch.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And so that's not really bringing anything to the table either. Is there a lot of those people there? There are a few. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just the same as a single man, you know, that you're going to have good. You're going to have bad. Yeah, totally. But it's what people want.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And everybody's allowed to have their preferences and what they want. But that's the reason why they say single men are the lowest on the totem pole because, you know, they're by themselves. And they're only presenting themselves to offer up. And sometimes couples want that, though. There are couples that just want to play with single men. Oh, my God. Listen to all my episodes, all the guys that are into hotwifing and want to see their woman with another guy. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Exactly. And if you're by mail, that's even better because there's a lot of husbands that are on the down low or they're curious to try it or some of these hot wife couples are into that cuck holding and they want to you know the woman wants to make her man suck a dick you know so you know it's there's all different levels yeah exactly now so there is a so the stigma exists and you might not be welcome like so how would you start to like where do you start if we're going to talk about the conversation of like how to navigate the lifestyle like where where would you start with that conversation? If that exists, that you are the lowest man. So the first thing I always tell people that ask me, how do you get into it is the way I got into it?
Starting point is 00:13:21 You go to a website like SDC and you set up an account and you don't do what I did and throw out 100 emails to people and like post eight. Oh, but that's good. That's important to tell people. No, no, no, no, that's important. Wait, let me give out my code so people could go into SDC and we're going to be talking about it, right? And so, like, people who get a free trial, they use my code 377-1-2.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But I love, do definitely talk about how you went on and what you did and that didn't work. I think that's always so super important. And then follow with what you should do. Sure. Yeah. So, like, I touched on this on that first episode where I set up an account on a different website called Swinger Lifestyle. And I just put like eight pictures of my dick on there and, you know, said that, you know, I was, you know, looking. for women and couples to play with.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And I don't even remember if I said couples. I think I just said I was looking for friends. I think that's all worded it. And that I was a nice guy and respectable. And just real vague, nothing real specific about myself or what I look like. And it sent out literally 100, like, form letter emails. And a woman called me on it and said, hey, you sound like you're sending out form letters. And she told me take down the dig picks
Starting point is 00:14:40 You know put up some You know pictures of me You don't have to have to show your face But you know some nice stylish clothes You know different type of shots like that If you know if you're a gym guy Then you know Post some pictures of you at the gym
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like I said You don't always have to show your face In these first pictures But they also have ways to put private pictures That you can put a passcode on That you can give out to people and you start a dialogue with other people online and they want to sit a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:15:12 then that's where you can put your face pics or some nude pics. Don't lead with the nude pics. Don't lead with the dickpigs. Yeah, exactly. Because even if you got like a 10-inch dig, you know, people have seen it already. You know, they want to see you as a person. Yeah, and even though this whole world is about sex,
Starting point is 00:15:32 you don't want to lead with that, especially when you're a guy trying to seduce a woman. woman. You know what I mean? She needs fucking more than that. If I was talking to a woman who's like looking for dudes online or whatever, like that's never going to be the thing that's going to catch her attention. Maybe if you're on Tinder looking for dudes, that's how you're going to hit them up. But when you're a guy looking for checks, it's not going to work. Yeah. And it really didn't for me until I really started just dialoguing with people. And that's the other thing I tell people, just be real. Just be a real person that's interested in getting to know the person you're
Starting point is 00:16:09 contacting. Right. And that's where the meeting greets come in, you know, look at SDC. But explain where people could find me in greets and stuff like that. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. You go onto a website like SDC, you set up your profile, and there are sections on SDC, parties, uh, socials, uh, I forgot how it's listed, events. And you'll find, in your area or set your distance how far you're willing to travel and there'll be people posting on their meeting greets like hey you know and they'll tell you it's part of a group or like it's their group they created or maybe it's just a couple that said hey we're looking for other people singles and couples to meet us at this bar that we like you know and let's get to know each other
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Starting point is 00:20:28 Yes, exactly. Right. Yeah, don't jump. Unless you're like the Adonis, like you said, don't immediately go to a club by yourself as a single male. You want to go to these meeting greets so people get to know you. They get to see you and your personality and how you interact with people. Set up how it's like all set up.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And like are you, did you feel like the lowest man on the total poll at the meeting greets too or were they super cool to you there? No, they're usually super cool, especially if they announced they were willing to meet single men at least. Oh, okay. And usually they are because it's a public place and anybody's willing to go. There's only been one meet and Greece I went to where it was obvious. Nobody there was wanting to meet a single male. But for the most part, everybody's just there to have a good time and socialize.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Right. It's just a social event. And you talk to people and hopefully there's somebody, one person, you may know already. In my case, I'm going to one in a new town close by that I've never been to, but there's a couple that's going to be there I know, and that's how I'll get my end with that group.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Right, but we're talking to people who's never been. Sure. So they're going to walk in solo and not knowing anybody, but the purpose of these meet and greets are so that people, so a lot of people might be going and not knowing anybody, right? And the purpose is to meet other people. And that's it. And everybody's going to be shy.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, that's good. They're going to be like kind of just filling it out and kind of looking and watching. The thing is a single male, you can't do too much of that because then you kind of look creepy. You start giving off creepy vibes. And, you know, if you drink or, you know, don't drink to excess, you don't, you want to get your little buzz on, not get drunk. Because you don't want to put off that vibe of your drunkard or you're obnoxious. and if you partake in any kind of, you know, you know, recreational... 420.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, drugs like that. Then you'll try not to be over, you know, overdo it either because you don't want to walk into a place and just reek of it. You know, that's going to off put, that's going to be off putting too. This is creating a first impression. And so we would do, you know what I mean? That's the way you really have to look at it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 You know what I mean? Now, now you can, And most definitely there are groups out there that are all for that. And you'll find your tribe eventually. And then you can go smell whenever you want to smell. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. But this is the first time you're meeting new people.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Right. Yeah, this is the first time you're meeting. Yeah. So you want to give the best impression always. Yeah. And just mingle. Just walk around and start up conversations. Just say, oh, hey, you know, this is my name and this is where I'm from.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And, you know, I'd like to introduce myself. You know, just simple as that. Talk about some TV show that you know is popular. You know, just... Do people approach you, though, too? Or do you have to be the aggressor in these kinds of situations? Because there's a lot of couples and stuff. Like, what do you find is the best way to walk into those things?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Or what do you, like, what's the expectation as a single guy walking in there? That you have to approach people and talk or wait for people to approach you? I think so. In my experience, I've had the most success when I'm doing it. the approaching. Now, there's been a couple of times where I've already introduced myself to a couple of people, and then I just kind of find a corner of the bar or a seat, you know, and have a seat, you know, and drink my soda and do a little people watch and then somebody may have saw me talking to another, you know, person and they'll come up to me and say, oh, hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:15 I saw you walk in and they introduce themselves to me too. So it's happening. on both ways. But for the most part, I try to be the social butterfly at these kind of events. Right. So you have to walk in and know that you've got to push yourself out of your comfort zone if you're shy because you're going to have to like, right. That's what it's about. You do want to meet people there. You can't, it's not like the club where you could kind of go and just sit in the corner and observe. This is about meeting people. Now, let me ask you this. At these meet and greets, are these people like, typically associated with a specific club or a party so that you know if you met people there, you're all going to then see each other someplace else.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Like what does one have to do with anything else? You know what I'm saying? So sometimes when you go to these events, they'll tell you there's a table going to be set up where they'll check, you know, like you'll sign up ahead of time and they'll check your name off by your profile name. And they may give you like a wristband or a pin or something that kind of designates you with that meet and greet. So you don't kind of wander off into vanilla territory.
Starting point is 00:25:19 and start trying to talk about lifestyle stuff with people that have no idea what you're talking about. But the goal is once you do mingle at these, sometimes there's an after party set up somewhere. Right, okay. That's what I'm getting at. Yeah, where they'll say, hey, you know, you seem pretty cool. We got a hotel down the street with the suite. You know, you're more than welcome to come over when this ends here when we start leaving. Okay. And sometimes it's just like, hey, here's my phone number.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Let's set something up for a later date. And that's usually what most of it is. But I've also, that's how I've been able to get invited to different Facebook, private Facebook groups or telegram or Discord groups. Oh, that's where you get into all that kind of stuff. Right. That's when you started going, oh, hey, are you part of this group? And you're like, no.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And they go, well, let's add your name to it. Right. So it's really like networking. Yeah. And it's so important. It is really networking. And so that's why I tell people, you know, because I've had people say, oh, well, I'm shy. Well, I said, you're not going to get anywhere being the shy person at one of these events. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Because you could sit at a table all night long and nobody come up and say a word to you. Right. And then you feel like, oh, well, they don't like the way I look or they don't like. And it's not that. It's just that this lifestyle is about personalities. And, yeah, a lot of it is about looks too, but a lot of it is personalities. And that's when you get to know somebody and what they like and what they are like. And that's how you get invited to things.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah. And what men need to understand, and I'm chiming in here as the woman on this call because, you know, like women, it's very, like, women get attracted in a very different way than men. And so sometimes the man thinks, you know, we're not attracted to just the physical. I don't care what kind of fucking Adonis you are. If you have zero personality, you're not funny, you're quiet, you're like insecure. Like you're not hot. Like sorry. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like we were very different wired, very differently than men. So, you know, personality and talking and, you know, bringing that kind of confidence that you can, you know, create a conversation and and be nice or cooler, whatever it is that you are. You know what I mean? That's positive. You got to bring that. to a woman.
Starting point is 00:27:45 You know what I mean? That's what it's all about. That's what turns women on. I've gone out with a woman before that went out with this bodybuilder type guy. And she said, great body, great cog, but dumb as a rock. Yeah. I had one of those. And she said, and that's why I enjoy spending time with you because we can actually sit here
Starting point is 00:28:09 and talk about things and then have fun. Exactly. Yeah, we're like more personality driven, so it's very different. So you got to like, you got to bring that to the table. And that's going to be, that's going to be your calling card as a man. You know, it's different for a woman because men get attracted in a different way. But as a man, you got to bring your personality. That's going to take you far with the couples as well.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Because you got to be cool to the guy too, right? You're not like, it's not just like you're picking up a girl. You got this whole thing where her husband is standing right next to her. So you can't be intimidated by that guy. And you got to be cool with him too. It's kind of like a weird kind of a thing. You know what I mean? And there are so many couples who will use that against you, even in the slightest.
Starting point is 00:28:52 What do you mean? You know, well, just like you could approach a couple and say hi to both of them just as a general high. Yeah. But if you don't specifically look him in the eye, shake his hand. Yes. Then you're immediately written off by you're not respecting the husband. Exactly. It's the same thing with a unicorn female unicorn, right? Oh, yeah. I've heard it, but I've heard it for some of my unicorn friends. Like, if they don't give the proper, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:22 respect to the wife that they think there should get, oh, they're written off too. Yeah. And think about it. You could understand, right, where they're coming from. Like, they're literally offering up their partner to you. If you're not cool to them or make them feel weird, that's like very, like, because they're in a vulnerable position too, right? Besides the way, right? So, I think it totally makes sense and people have to think of that. Like you're not just going in there and talking to the women. You really have to make sure you talk to the guy and be cool with him. So you really need to like, you know, maybe you need a little, a drink for some liquid courage, but not too much. Yeah. Don't do too much. But, you know, it's like, and that's why I try to, when I'm talking to a couple, I look back and forth and don't try to look at the wife too long. Yeah. You know, I just kind of look back and forth as I'm talking. Yeah. And, and, and, And just also, you know, and say, you know, I was talking to a new couple, brand new couples, they haven't done anything yet. And we made plans to meet just for lunch, just kind of as a get-to-know-you type lunch. And the husband called me and said, well, my wife is having migraines and is it really feeling well?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Would it be okay if you just met me? and if you weren't a cool person, you'd say, oh, no, if she's not going to be there, I don't want to meet. But me, because I've been in this a long time, and know this is a new couple that's, they're, you know, feeling everybody out and don't know what to do yet or what to expect. I don't want to leave them hanging like that. So I still go and I meet the husband. And he appreciated that, you know, that gesture that I was able to sit there. and talked to him, we sat and talked about bands
Starting point is 00:31:09 that we've seen in concert. Yeah, that's major. You know what props? You know how far that fucking solo launch probably went for you? You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Yeah. I mean, by the end of it, he was like thanking me for all the information I gave because eventually we did talk about the lifestyle stuff. Of course. But for the first hour,
Starting point is 00:31:30 it was just about music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, personality. is the number one thing that you have to leave a house.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah. And also, I've said this before about you when you've been on the show. Like, I could just tell just by talking to you, you're like a nice person. And I feel like when women are, especially in the lifestyle, in a club, and we're going to get to the club. Now we're going to walk into the club and we're going to have you go through all that, right? But like when, you know, a woman's in a club, I feel like she's in a very vulnerable, even though they rule those clubs, right?
Starting point is 00:32:02 And everything goes by what the women want. It is one place where they're very high on the tone of pole. But I feel like women are in a very vulnerable position in that they're probably scantily cloud. You know what I mean? They're going to be like literally giving themselves intimately to a total stranger and stuff. And, you know, she, if she smells any kind of nonsense. And I feel like women are probably on very high alert to any kind of nonsense. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:25 And I just feel like they could, women could smell like a nice safe, not fucking asshole guy from a mile away. And I really believe that her antennas are up. even more in a place like that. So I feel like the good guy wins in the end at these kinds of places. Sure. Most definitely. You know, when in the club,
Starting point is 00:32:46 like you said, the women are very vulnerable, not only just because they're scantily clad, you know, with, you know, maybe sometimes even just flat out naked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 They have to bring in their own special cups, you know, so that way they don't have to worry about leaving their cup and attended while they go dance. Oh, right, right. You know, so. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:08 You know, so, and it still happens. I mean, I've known people that said that something happened throughout the night where they just didn't feel right. And luckily, they had their partner with them that could just take them straight home. And, but just think if they were single and they didn't have anybody to watch out for them. Yeah. And I just think if it's like some asshole guy and we all know them. Sure. I mean, that is just there to be like, and has like predator tendencies.
Starting point is 00:33:32 No woman's going to go for that. I don't care if you look like an Adonis. She's going to go for the guy that she feels safe with. And that's why these clubs, you know, they charge so much for single men because they want to weed out those type of men. Yeah. Let's get to that place where you get to the club. There is a higher charge for the guy if you don't bring a friend with you, right? Like you can bring friends with you, right, and be a couple.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Sure. And that's where the meet and greets and all that, getting into the groups, you know, getting well known before. you go to the club because then you can take what's called a door date. Even if it's not somebody that you're going to play with, you don't help you get in at a lower rate because there's some of these clubs that charge anywhere from, you know, $100 to $300 for a single mail. Wow. Depending on the night or the event that's going on. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And even the club that I was a member at, which I'm not a member anymore, but membership for a couple to that club is still 95. dollars where it used to be something like 30 or 40. So all the prices are going up everywhere. Right, but it's always more for the single man. Sure. For single man, yeah. Like if I was to go this weekend, it was going to be like $2.25 for a single male to get in just by myself.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Wow. And so at the meeting greets, though, we're still there, like real quick. But that's a place where you meet people and then people will be like, oh, maybe you should check out this club or that club or whatever. And that's where you could find out where there's a club to go and try. So now you get to the club and if you go alone, you might pay a little bit more. But eventually if you make friends, you could bring like you said a door date, right? But maybe the first time you're going to go alone, you're going to pay a little bit more.
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Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah. Tell people what they should be dressed like to, please. Like, give me the whole thing. Okay. Dress, something like you're going. I would say to a, well, it depends on the club too, because some more casual or in others and some be a theme night. But just in a general rule, where something like you would go.
Starting point is 00:38:01 like if you were going to go to a fancy restaurant restaurant yeah you know something like that a sports coat some you know either designer jeans or slacks you know a button
Starting point is 00:38:13 button down shirt or even a polo shirt whatever you know something just something that looks classy but not too casual you know either so and because that that impresses people too the way you dress you know you're not gonna go
Starting point is 00:38:27 or the opposite I had a woman complain about a guy wearing flip flops like I mean seriously she was like He was like fucking wearing flip flops. Like it gave her like a vibe. Like it said something to her that she didn't like. You know what I mean? Especially first meeting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I mean, there's people that come in there and being oversized, you know, jerseys. You know, sports team jerseys and stuff like that. And they're not going to get anything. You know, they just look like they're there just, you know, not even worry about the woman. They just look like, I'm going to get mine and get out of here. You know, it's got a little vines or give it all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But wait. When they go to, when the guy goes. the club, are there certain, is it typical that like these clubs have certain nights where like solo guys are allowed or not allowed that they should look for first, right? Yes, that's what I would do. Find ones, find the nights. And usually during the week, there's nobody going to be there, you know, and you could go that, if you want to just go check it out for a cheap price, then it would be the weekend. You know, go on a Wednesday. Wednesdays are usually newbie nights, kind of what they call them. And you can just get the laydown of the club, you know, just, you know, the layout of the club, I mean.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And just check it out. And there may be somewhere there that may not be, but at least you get a feel for what it's going to be like on a crowded night. And then once you do go on a crowded night, you'll know where everything is. So you don't look lost. At least you don't look lost walking around the club. Right. Because sometimes that puts people on too, like, oh, man, they've never been here before. You know, they don't want to deal with a newbie.
Starting point is 00:39:58 but like I said, you can't be afraid to approach people. The only way you're going to become not a newbie is to be a newbie. I mean, there's no way around it. I mean, right? I mean, that's what you've got to do. The quicker you become a newbie,
Starting point is 00:40:12 the quicker you're not a newbie anymore. So just fucking do it. Yeah, and that's what I tell people all the time that get nervous about this. I said, hey, everybody was new once. Exactly. Yeah. Everybody was new once.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And if they give you a hard time for being new, you know, that's all me. That's not you. And listen, every club does have, a different kind of vibe and experience, right? For sure. Sure. But let's pretend he walks into like a good sort of night on a weekend because a lot of times
Starting point is 00:40:38 there's like there's no poster someplace with rules and stuff there, right? Like it just explain to people like how they should act and what goes down and maybe some of the unspoken rules and shit like that I think is super important. So a lot of these places allow you to bring your own drinks in. So I would just bring a small little cooler with you at some place. I just want you to leave any hard liquor bottles behind the bar, but some places just allow you to have it at your table. But whenever you get there, there's always going to be somebody that will ask, is this your first time? And if you say yes, then they're going to walk you.
Starting point is 00:41:12 They're going to explain the rules to you the club, and they will walk you through the club on a tour. And they'll tell you, this is all open area, and these are the private areas. And most of the times, if you're a single male, you're not allowed in those private areas unless, somebody takes you back there with them. You can't just freely roam, which is good. I mean, that's a really good rule. Yeah. That way you're not coming off as a creeper, and people don't think you're just trying to,
Starting point is 00:41:41 you know, just stare at people while they're having their private fun. But for the most part, they'll walk you through and explain it all to you. That's the best thing about these clubs. Every club I've ever been to. They all do that? Yeah, they've all done that. Every club I've ever been to, somebody has walked me through and told me, you know, these are the areas of the clubs that are, you can go in freely, and these are the ones you can't,
Starting point is 00:42:05 and here are the rules of the club. Right. Because, listen, I know I've heard of certain rules, like, if a door's open, it means you can look in, but, like, there's certain times where you can't walk in, I mean, you know, and, like, and stuff like that, right? What about approaching, like, a pile on, and, like, you know, say there's a pile of people on a bed having sex, like, you can't just walk. up and start having sex with them, right?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Like, what's the, you know, the unspoken rules with that? Well, in a club, you wouldn't even be allowed in that area as a single male. Wait, what? Yeah, that would be more like a house party type thing where there'd be an open band. Wait, in a club, you cannot go into a room with a bunch of people in it if you're a single guy? No, you can't even go to that part of the club. Usually all that is in a back area, yeah. A single man is not, so can you be brought in there by a couple?
Starting point is 00:42:55 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's how the only way you get back there is a single female. Did you say this before? I'm so glad I brought this up. This is very important. Yeah, I may not have. No, this is important. So if a couple or a single female can take you back to the play area, but for the most part, you can't just walk back there by yourself. I think there's only been one club I've ever been to that had like a semi-private area or single men. could walk through. Wow. Yeah, but it was kind of like a walkthrough. It wasn't like, hey, just stand there all night.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Interesting. So, but how have you made it back there by meeting a girl or a couple and then they bring you back? Yes, that's how it usually happens. You'll chat up somebody, and if there's some chemistry there, you'll just say, hey, would you like to go play? and then you both would go back. If it's a single female, you both would go back to the play area together.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And if it's a couple you're talking to, you know, they'll bring it up. You know, they'll say, hey, would you mind joining us in the back? And we're like, yeah, sure, let's go. Right. So how do you approach people if you want to approach people? Me, like I said, I just kind of act a social butterfly anytime I go to one of these clubs. and I'll just see somebody sitting there and I'll go, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'm Antonio. Is this your first time at the club? And they'll say yes or no. And I'll kind of ask where they're from and just, you know, just chit-chat, just small talk and just get to know them. And I sense there's some chemistry and it's okay to keep talking. And sometimes I can tell whether just being polite. So I'll say, well, I hope you enjoy your evening and maybe we'll talk again later.
Starting point is 00:44:49 and kind of just keep moving around like that. And I'll come back. If I think there was some chemistry there, I'll come back and strike up another conversation and see how it goes. But you don't make the first move? You wait for them? Well, I just wait and just, like I said,
Starting point is 00:45:05 just kind of just fill it out. You know, I can generally get a vibe, whether it's good or bad. And I'll ask, if I think there's a vibe, I'll say, would you like to go play? And they either say yes or they'll say no. and, you know, it's fine either way, but at least it's out there and they know that I'm interested. How do you deal with the noes? Do you remember your first know?
Starting point is 00:45:27 Oh, my gosh. Yes. Well, the first know was that the first party ever went to, and I wasn't even really trying to play with the couple. It was a couple. It was a house party, and I talked to this couple in the downtown, in the downstairs area of the party. And then when everybody went up to the upstairs to play, I went up there and the couple was on this mattress with another guy. And the woman shouted out to me just to say hi. And I took one step towards the mattress they were laying on. And she said, no, I didn't mean to come over here. I don't want you. And I was just kind of like, oh, okay, you know, kind of dejected.
Starting point is 00:46:13 But, you know, it's just you take it for what it is, you know. But at a club, the first time I got turned down, I was kind of surprised. And I shouldn't have been because, like I said, people like what they like, you know. But it was a woman that I think I had already saw go back to the play area a couple of times. So I said, oh, okay, she's here to have a good time. I'll try to get my turn. And she said no. She's just flat out said no.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And I was like, oh, okay. I mean, but isn't, isn't, if I was talking to a woman, wouldn't like a part of the conversation be like, how do you say no? And they have to also learn how, like, don't you have to learn how to say no? And you also have to learn how to like take a no, right? And that's for everybody, right? That is. It's for everybody. Because, I mean, there's been women I've turned down.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I just, I mean, and, you know, when I first started, I would be really. I would do the same thing other people would do to me. Oh, not right now. Not this time. You know, kind of those kind of vague, you know, answers. Then I find that you can't do that because it's almost leading people on in a way. Yeah. To give some hope that there will be a chance another time.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah, exactly. So now, you know, so as I went on, you just learned to say, you know, I'm just not interested in you to play this way. I enjoy your company and we have good conversations, but I just don't think of you in that way to play. And it sounds kind of a little harsh sometimes, but you just kind of try to do it as politely as you can. Yeah. And if everybody's an adult, and we all know that when not everybody's cup of tea. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:08 And I do believe, though, that, you know, everybody, whether you're a man or a woman, a couple, like you got to learn how to take it now and give a no, you know what I mean? Because that's a big part of it, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, there are some, there are men and women that both get their egos hurt and can't believe, you know, you turn them down, you know. I mean, come on. That's life. But yeah, I get it. I mean, but I do believe it's probably jarring at first, right? Like, was it, did it, let me ask you this. Like, over time, does it just become easier, like, since you've been doing this for so long? Is that whole part of things like no big deal for you now compared to in the beginning? Yeah, most definitely.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think the hardest part was being told, turned down by somebody I had already played with once before. That was a new experience for me. Yeah, that's confusing. Yeah, because it was like, okay, was it really that bad? Yeah, maybe it's more personal. Yeah. Yeah, you know, so, but, you know, everybody has a. right to say no, you know, and no matter when, you know, whether it be after you played once or
Starting point is 00:49:19 you've never played at all, you know, people just have a right to say, not this time, you know, and, you know, they don't feel like it, you know, maybe it was okay that wants, but not something they need to repeat again. Right. You know, and I've done that too to other people, so I get it. You know, it's once was good and don't need to do it again, you know. But let me, let me, let me ask the question for the horny guy that's going because he just wants to get some action, you know, because at the end of the day, that's what people are want there, right? They want to be you having gangbangs and all the things that you've talked about on my show. You know, how likely is it that they're going to, you know, be able to partake and stuff as a single guy when they
Starting point is 00:50:00 go to these clubs? They just can't have the expectation. You just kind of have to go with the mindset that, hey, you know, if it happens, great. If it doesn't, I, um, you. You just can't have the expectation. I, I'll try again next time. Right. But just be personable. That's what I always say. Just show your best charming personality you can. And people will pick up on it.
Starting point is 00:50:25 People will know you as, hey, that's the guy with the good vibes, you know. So are you saying, though, that you keep going to as well and you start to make friends that then everything changes over time, right? Like for you, when you go now, I mean, you're like a part of these clubs. You know the people. You're in. Like you're always hooking up, right? So it does pay off in the beginning, right? Like eventually it becomes something where you don't have to lower your expectations, right?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Because now you're part of the scene, correct? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Because the more people get to know you and they know what kind of person you are, the more opportunities you're going to have. And if you go in to just say, okay, all I want is the sex and nothing else, well, you're not, I mean, you may find some, some, some once in a while, but for the most part, you're going to get shut out because people do want to still be friends at some of these events. They don't want just a body there. You know, they want an actual personality somebody can be their friend. And aren't there benefits to that, too, for you as well? Sure. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I enjoy everybody's friend. That's always,
Starting point is 00:51:31 that's why I tell everybody. I'm in this for friends with benefits. And I do enjoy the friend part. Now, I do go to these gangbangs and DTF parties where it's coming in, drop your pants, and let's go to town. Why don't you tell guys about that? How do you find those? So those are also, it can be found on websites like, you know, the SDC and Fed Life and things like that. And if you don't mind showing out, you know, $40 to $100, you know, to get through the door, you can find a bunch of those type of parties.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But, you know, some of them are legit and some of them aren't. What do you mean? What happens at ones that aren't? legit you pay your money and there's nothing going on uh yeah i mean there's there's you there are some that post on these websites and and now they have like uh warnings on all these websites that i go to that say beware scammers because people people will tell you you have to you know pay you know in advance and then they'll give you uh they'll give you a uh an address later and then you don't get the address you know so i've heard of things like that happening so
Starting point is 00:52:39 Oh, wow. So you got to make sure that you're not getting scammed. Yeah, sure. And usually it's, you know, if it's on SDC, you pretty much know it's legit, but some of these other sites, you don't know. Okay. But like I said, I mean, there are parties like that where people will say, you know, we're not charging, but if you want to help, you know, to the cost of the hotel room that we're getting, you're more than welcome to help us to pray that cost. and those are the ones if I'd do something like that it's usually those type I had somebody invite me to a gang bang
Starting point is 00:53:15 that was with an amateur porn star and they were charged $300 a person and I was like, no thank you Yeah that's a lot Yeah Especially because she's probably filming it And using it for something else So what does you know who needs somebody
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah oh my God And you can you're getting so many people So you don't need to right I mean like you're not you don't need to be with her. You've been in plenty of gangbangs regularly. What about like swinger parties? What's the difference between like sort of navigating, you know, a swinger party compared to a club, right? We ever talked, we already talked about the club and everything. What's the difference at a party? A hotel, a regular party, I don't know. Tell the difference. So, so like at a hotel party or a house party, that's just
Starting point is 00:54:02 swingers. It's a lot easier to talk to people than a club because you got a club with the loud music. going and thumping and there's hardly any quiet places unless there's like an outside patio that it's like a smoking area and you don't mind the smoke. Right. You can go outside and have a conversation there. But now some of these places are starting to put DJs outside too. So it's just as loud outside as an inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 But a house party is a little bit, you know, more chill in that sense where, you know, you can talk and actually have a conversation. And that's like I told you in that first episode where I got known as the couple whisperer because I was able to just sit and talk and have long conversations with couples at these house parties. And that's what I usually try to do when I'm at a house party compared to a club. Where at a club, I kind of walk around a lot in a house party or hotel party. I tend to will sit in one spot and just kind of. talk to whoever gets close to me and carry on, you know, a conversation about different things.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Typically, mostly about, you know, hey, what are you into? What are you looking for? Do you play with single guys? That's one question I will ask a lot up front is what's your opinion on playing with single guys. Yeah, that's smart. And what do people, what kind of answers do you typically get? I've gotten anywhere from, no, we don't do anything with single men. And to, yeah, it just depends. You know, it just kind of depends on what we're looking for for the night. Or I've had couples flat out tell me online that they don't do anything with single men. And then I see them at a me and greet or a club.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And I sit and talk to them, you know, for a good while. And we eventually hook up sometimes. So it's just people. That would make, that's why maybe the party is a great place because maybe someone online says they have these, weird rules, but they have these rules, but then maybe they fly out the window when they've, when you're sitting across from them and maybe they think you're cool and everything changes. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:16 So that's why you have to like go to these parties and stuff more so than just navigate online because maybe people feel differently in person. Oh yeah, most definitely because that's one of the biggest things I've seen in some of these online groups where there's a lot of single men trying to figure out how to meet women. And I say, you got to get offline. That's the first thing you got to do. You got to quit, you know, answer and, you know, trying to answer every single ad you see online.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Just find up a house party or, you know, look on these websites like SDC that have house parties that allow single men and sign up. Right. And go and meet people in person because just answering every ad you see online is crazy. Now, but when it comes to it. a party, you're going to find those as well sometimes on SDC and stuff?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yes, ma'am. Okay. And so how do you know, like, do you need to ask them if, like, a single guys are allowed at those parties too? Or, like, how do you navigate just the invite alone on those? So, on SDC, they have little figures, you know, blue, blue and pink side by side is a couple, an individual blue or an individual pink or single male, single female. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Yeah. Yeah. And that's how you know if a single man are allowed. Oh, they'll have the picture up. They'll have the picture up or not. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be, it'll be a single male figure in that to what's allowed at this party or it won't be. And that's how you know. Oh, interesting. What's the, like, you know, percentage-wise. What's the percentage of those parties that you see that single guys are allowed versus not allowed? Very low percentage, honestly. Low percentage, what? that they're allowed or not allowed?
Starting point is 00:58:04 That they are allowed. Oh, okay, that's good to know. That's good to know. So you don't see a lot of little blue figures on those parties. Not on, yeah. And if they are, it's very limited. And they'll usually put that in the description of the party. Right, meaning they're not going to let 50 single guys and three couples.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Right. Oh, yeah. I know a couple that has parties at their house once a month and they don't even put, that they allow single males, but privately, they'll tell me, hey, you're invited if you want to come. Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say, that maybe people like you, once you're in the know, and you continue to, you know, hang in a lifestyle and get to know people. Like, you have ins to these things and these kinds of rules don't apply anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And that's the same with the other single men, because, I mean, there's a party. I had some friends of mine went to, and I tried to get an invite by telling the, you know, the couple that I was throwing it. Hey, I know like half your guest list. Right. You know, I would like to attend your party, and they said no single men. And then the next day after the party, my friends are like, yeah, there's two or three single men there. You know, but it's like they don't know you. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Yeah, they don't know me. Yeah. So that's not good. What about hotel takeovers? My last question. Like what goes down at those? And are they like more welcoming because there's such a big events? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:28 There are some hotel takeovers that allow everybody. Yeah. And those are the best ones I like because they will take over a whole hotel. Usually it's like a three-story, like a three-floor hotel. Nothing huge, but it's big enough to where they can sell out every room. And they'll have like some kind of event in the ballroom, like a dinner or a dance. And then at a certain time of the night, everybody goes up to the floors and starts. their partying upstairs and playing.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And that's when people have their doors open or cracked or closed, you know, depending on what they want people to come in freely or knock first or don't bother us while we got the door closed. And, but there's also some that just had maybe one floor of the hotel. So you really have to just stick to that one floor and can't travel throughout the hotel while you're, while you're there. Because, man, I've been into some part. like that where people forget and they go down to the main floor and just on underwear.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Like, oh, the next thing you know, we can't go back to that hotel no more. Oh, my God. Look, a family saw you walking around right because there's regular people at those hotels. Yeah. And here's the bad part about hotel takeovers that some people probably don't know, is if they do take over the whole hotel, and you can't make your reservation for some reason, you have to tell the event organizer. because if not, it immediately opens up to the public. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:01:03 What do you mean? Well, like, say, because the hotel will block off all the rooms just for your group. Right. And if you decide, like, well, I can't make it, I'm going to call the hotel directly and cancel. Well, that room becomes open, and you may have somebody looking at price line for a hotel room. Oh, my God. And they get it. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And there's one person, one family standing in a bunch of swingers. Oh, my God. Yes. It was a mess when that happened in the past. Oh, my God. Where do you find out about these hotel takeover? Same kind of a thing? Same kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:01:40 You know, either through friends of a friend or on, you know, SDC or through private Facebook groups. And do they charge for it? They usually charge a small fee. And, of course, single males get charged the most. And they wear it from $100 to $150. But you still got to book the rest. room and a lot of times these are two-night stays on these parties like hotel takeovers like that
Starting point is 01:02:03 right but are you allowed in the play areas and stuff is it more open yeah yeah it's more open than a swinger club right very much so everything is open to anybody walking open up and the hallway and what's the vibe at those places if you had to well let me ask you this if you had to pick one like swinger club house party hotel takeover what's your favorite do you have one yeah my favorite is house party all the way. Okay. My favorite, my favorite is always going to be a house party. Just it's because it's more relaxed. And then during the summertime, like, you know, when the weather starts getting better, if they got a pool, even better because everybody gets in the pool naked. Right. Oh my God. Are there neighbors around with binoculars?
Starting point is 01:02:44 No, it's usually, if they have a pool where everybody gets naked, it's usually situated with a high fits or, you know, trees or something. Yeah, it's real private. Yeah. Oh, my God, I love that. tell me like let's spend a you know a good five minutes or something so or like whatever the ending like I want you to just like tell me anything that I forgot to ask that you think is important to tell guys about being in the lifestyle as a solo guy well like I said make it presentable you know have good hygiene oh that's important good hygiene yeah good hygiene like I said if you drink or smoke just make sure you don't reek of it don't don't overindulge because you don't want to be obnoxious in any way fumbling around, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Just, you always just want to present yourself well. Because you want to make that be the last impression people have of you. It's like, hey, I was a very respectable guy. Because when I was starting out, both the first time and when I was out of the lifestyle for a while and got back in, it was being able to have the host of the party come up to me afterwards and say, hey we got a lot of good feedback on you tonight that you weren't pushy and you were real respectful for everybody we want to have you back again you know so that's the ultimate goal is you want people to say good things about you and then word of mouth gills around through the community
Starting point is 01:04:09 that that's big i've heard that that's it that's big you're looking for a respectable you know single male that'll show up when he says he'll show up hey you ought to give this guy a try Yeah. You know, and that's, and that's how it grows. And that's how you've grown in that world. And what has it added to your life as a guy who's been in the lifestyle? As a solo guy who is like the lowest man in the totem pole, you've been able to successfully navigate it, get in there and really like, you know, do well. And so like, how has it changed your life doing that?
Starting point is 01:04:43 It's given me a lot of confidence as, you know, even despite not having the Adonis body, whatever. I still feel attractive when I go out and I don't feel like, oh, man, is anybody going to like me? Yeah. Because somebody will. I mean, that's the kind of feeling I get when I go to these things. If it's just one person, you know, I'm going to have a good time. Right. And even if I don't play, even if it's just I met a new person that we may play down the road, you know, I feel good about myself. I don't leave a place feeling down about my looks or my weight or anything. I just feel like, hey, I had a good time.
Starting point is 01:05:28 And do you feel a part of a community because you have been accepted and you've been in there for a while, like that eventually you do feel that sense of community? Because a lot of people I know that are in the world eventually, they feel like they met their people. They love it. They make so many great friends and blah, blah, blah, you know? Oh, sure. The community is great. And there are some people that I don't even play with.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I just hang out with them. Exactly. And we go dinner. We go to movies. And we can talk about our dates with each other. We can talk about something crazy that happened at a, you know, hotel takeover or, you know, some of these people I know, they go on these lifestyle cruises all the time. And they keep trying to get me to go. And I'm like, ah, maybe one day.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I don't know. Not into that. What about dating? Last question. Like, have you dated in the lifestyle? or are you typically like interested in just being single? Like what's your, what,
Starting point is 01:06:19 how does that work? Well, I'm actually trying to date again. I did a couple of times. I just didn't work out for one reason or another. But I just, now that I'm getting a little bit older, I'm 57 now,
Starting point is 01:06:33 I would like to have a steady partner, whether it just be a, one main friend with benefit that I see most, you know, more than others, or it would just be somebody that I'm actually in a committed relationship with. Yeah, great. Yeah, I think that would reach that point where I'm going to really start looking for that again.
Starting point is 01:06:52 And let me ask you this. Would you look in, like, does it have to be, I mean, because listen, you've been there, done that. So if you told me, no, I'd be fine being monogamous with someone, I totally believe you, because, like, why not you've done everything else? You know, I mean, how does that relationship look? Do you need to be with somebody that would be in this world with you? Or would you be willing to give it up for the right person? Yeah, I'd be willing to give it up for the right person. person that's yeah that's because I know a bunch of people who are like that that were in the
Starting point is 01:07:20 lifestyle for a long time and they met somebody and they're happy being monogamous they still go to the parties and they still hang out with some of the people you know going to dinner stuff but they don't partake in the playing anymore so I could do it I would like to find somebody in the lifestyle right just even if it's just one or two more years and then we get out that would be fine too But, you know, just the sense of having somebody on a consistent basis, I think, would be nice at this point in my life. Yeah, that's what I felt like. I mean, listen, you've done so much and you've experienced a lot of things that most guys only dream of, right? And all your experience in the lifestyle for so long that, like, I could see why you'd be able to be monogamous.
Starting point is 01:08:04 If all the stars align and you met the perfect girl, like, why would you give that up, right? Because you already kind of done a lot, right? and you've, so I could, I, I figured that would be, uh, your answer. But I love that you're still in it. I mean, listen, you know, you're so involved in the lifestyle that the chances are you could meet, uh, a woman in the lifestyle anyway. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. So who knows where are you going to wind up? But when you do wind up in that relationship, if it's, you know, maybe we'll talk again and we'll get your part four. But I love this whole conversation. Uh, I think it will help a lot of guys, you know, because I think it's, uh, guys want
Starting point is 01:08:41 this information. You know, I feel like I've done it with women like the Toronto Unicorn. She talked to guys, but you're a guy who's done it. And I feel like you were like a good voice to have on my show talking to other guys, you know. So thanks for calling in and sharing all your insight. Oh, well, thank you for having me again. I enjoy talking to you. And yeah, when I have more exploits to talk about. Well, people can see your exploits on Discord. You're on my Discord. Yeah. I just, I just posted a short video and some pictures. from a recent meeting of a new couple. Oh, perfect. Oh, perfect. And you're on the guest channel,
Starting point is 01:09:17 or do you have guest access? Yes, yes, ma'am. Okay, perfect. All right. So, because your episode will go up on Sunday, so post like Sunday or Monday. So when people go in there, they could see it. But thanks so much, Antonio, you're the best. Thanks so much for calling in and giving me all this info. Thanks. All right. You have a good day. You too. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, It's called Strictly Anonymous Confession.
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