Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 149 - Twenty Three Year Old Honey Lexx is Dating a Wealthy Sixty Three Year Old

Episode Date: October 24, 2016

Twenty three year old Honey Lexx calls in to discuss the details of her relationship with her sixty three year old boyfriend who totally supports her. How did she meet him and get involved with him in the first place? How much has she actually got from him since she's been dating him? Is this a typical sugar daddy relationship or is it more? Tune in to find out plus hear all about the one weird issue in their sex life, the orgy she had behind his back and the dilemma she's now having about moving forward. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I need like a 21-year-old intern. But instead, let's get to who I have on the call today because she's a 23-year-old girl who probably could be my intern. But instead, she doesn't really need to work. Well, that's why she could be an intern because she doesn't really need the cash because she's dating a very wealthy older man. It's Honey Lex. She was a listener of the show.

She went Googling for like Sugar Daddy podcast and found my podcast and then wrote in and said, hey, I got this situation that you like to hear about. So she's dating this guy. He's 63. She's 23. And he's got a lot of cash. And she gets a lot from him. She's only been with him a very short time, like six months.

And he gives her a whole bunch of things. And she was kind of wondering whether she should like stay with him or maybe go out there and look for more sugar daddy's because she can't believe like how easy it was to sort of land this guy and then get all this stuff from him. So we talk a lot about that. But we also talk a lot about this other sex. stuff because there's some issues there with maybe the both of them, definitely with him, and they have like an interesting relationship. And so we get into a whole bunch of stuff. And it's very interesting.

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Hey, honey, Lex. I'm calling you Honey Lex. I can't just call you Honey. You're on the Strictly Anonymous podcast, but Kathy, how are you? Hey, I'm well. How are you? I'm good. So you're Honey Lex.

right? And you sent me an email, which I thought was really funny. I mean, it's really interesting. And then your last sentence was hilarious to me. So basically what the deal is, you're like, I'm 23. You're 23. You're dating a 6 year old guy, right? Now, I'm assuming, and I have to ask you more questions that you were like dating him, just like regularly dating him. You weren't like an escort or a stripper. I don't know. Like how does a 23-year-old wind up meeting a 6-year-old? I know. Yeah. I guess it's a funny story. worry. Not a steper, not an export, totally normal. I mean, I guess maybe I should start back to like how I got into dating older men, I guess. I just have a thing for older men. Okay, so you've always had a thing for older guys. I mean, you're 23, like what's the oldest you've ever dated? Is 60 like the highest or have you dated? No, no, no, no. He's the oldest. He's the oldest I ever dated. And I mean, he's not, he'll be 60 in like a few days. So, Yeah, but, you know, like, so he's definitely the oldest I've ever dated.

The thing is, though, he doesn't look old, you know? Like, I can't date someone who, like, is, like, balding or, like, has, like, kind of gray hair, you know, like, it works because he could pass as, like, 45. Right. Okay. Yeah. Nowadays, it's different. People that are older look, you know, like, it's just different, you know? So he doesn't, like, look as old as he really is.

It kind of sounds old, 60, right? Yeah. Definitely. Where do you mean him? I met him. Okay, so he approached me. So I met him at, I was at a restaurant, and he walks in and, like, points at me and, like, says, he grows like her at my event. And so I'm just like, ew, what the hell is this guy talking about?

And later he comes and approaches me, and he's like, I'm sorry, I didn't want to be, you know, rude, but, you know, I'm having me spent. I would love for you to come. Like, where was this, though? in a bar, and where were you in? It was a restaurant, like a totally casual, like, Geary, like normal. And you were with a bunch of girlfriends, or who were you with? No, it was just me.

I came from work. Oh, okay. So you were just sitting there, and he, what event was he having? He was having this event. So he comes over and he's like, hey, I'm having this event for his company. Don't really know who this guy is or what he's about. And he's like, look, there's going to be free food, free drinks, and rich guys, you know. So I'm like, okay, I'm new to the city.

So I was like, might as well see what's going on. And he, but he wasn't even trying to come on to me, which was like, you know, whatever. Because I didn't even find him attractive at that point. He was just, like, flipped off. And he looked weird. And so the next day, I ended up going to the event. And it was, like, super official for, like, this big company. It's like this car company.

And it was pretty, like, it was nice. It was groovy. It was fun. But, like, my goal there was, like, you know, the network and meet some rich guys. You can get some, you know, great great stuff. But what kind of event was it? Was it an event where, like, young girls go to meet rich guys, or it was an event about cars?

And he just wanted hot girls there. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was a car event, and it was, like, professional, but, yeah, they were releasing a new car. What car, what car manufacturer? Like, what brand? Porsche. Porsche, right.

Okay, so he was out recruiting Hot Girls. That's smart. No, he wasn't. He just saw me. Like, they had a company. Right. Like, to recruit, a model company to, like, you know, just have, like, girls who, like, would show off the car and stuff. But I thought, I think he was just trying to get some people.

And he was at that point having a meeting, you know, with the marketing team. So he was, like, you know, like, it just happened. It was just really random. Okay, cool. So you're there. I'm there. I see him, you know. And so I'm at the event.

So, back for the next day. I'm at the event. And, you know, and I'm, like, talking to guy, you know, here and there. I'm just trying to, you know, meet people and see what's up. And I don't run into him until the end of the event. And he was like, you know, he looked nice then. I was like, oh, wow. Like, he's actually pretty cute, you know.

And so he's like, hey. And I'm like, hey. So we, like, he introduced me to all these people. And, you know, he was like, oh, my God, I'm surprised he came. And, like, when I met him, the event was dwindling down. So we just went to his office and talked. talked and, you know, there's like people coming in and out. It was pretty casual.

And so it's like what, you know, like what brings you out? You know, I was just telling him what I'm about. And I really was like, hey, I came because I wanted to meet people. I worked a shitty job. I want to network, possibly, you know, get in, you know, meet people that can get me a new job or something. And he was like, okay, I know some people, you know. And so we end up, like, kind of hitting it off.

Like, he was just, like, really cool. And so we go. So he's like, hey, do you want to get some food after? And I'm like, all right, sure. And this is, at this time I had a few drinks in me and all that. And so I'm like, all right, let's go. Yeah, right. And yeah, so we end up going to this, like, really nice restaurant.

And at this point, so I still don't know what he's about. I don't know who this guy is, but, you know, I'm going to test him out and see, like, if he can handle me. So I go to this restaurant and, like, I'm, like, you know, ordering. And I'm like, I want the salmon and the steak. And he's like, okay, you know, he wants what you want. And I like that because, hey, I love to eat. And, like, you know, I want a guy who can see me really well. So that was really important to me.

And so after that, I'm like, okay, even more intrigued. And so we, like, just had such a good night. Like, we're talking and, like, we literally just hid off. And I just was starting to feel with him, you know? Like, we just, like, we're connecting. And so afterwards, he's given me a ride. oh, we go to like this, you know, this bar, this retail bar and, like, he's showing me around. And he gives me a ride from my car.

And there I was, like, you know, I was feeling good. And so he had, like, his hand on my lap. And then I look at him, I'm like, do you know you want this? And then he, like, I, like, move his hand up. And then we just started fooling around. And it was getting hot and steaming. But then, you know, like, at that. point I was like okay I gotta go like this is getting too out of control like I have

work tomorrow I gotta go but that's kind of what started off so I mean like after that like the next morning he hit me and we just like started hanging out all weekend and since then we pretty much hang out like all the time and now this is the deal let me just give a little overview because then I'm gonna ask you more specific information like so you start dating this guy you've been dating him for about six months right and he's turned into like a major sugar daddy for you. Like you've gotten a lot of like interesting things for him. We're going to go down that list in a second. But you haven't had sex with him. I haven't not. Okay, well define sex. Sex is his dick inside yet. Like he fucks you. Like that's sex. No, we don't at all. Okay.

How does that not happen? Okay, you're in the car with him, right? You're 23. He's 60. You're hot for him. You're drunk. Okay. I would have probably screwed. Like, I mean, at that age, I don't know. Like, why didn't you screw him that night? I mean, that's the thing. I'm not, I've never had one night stance. Oh, okay. I'm making myself sound terrible.

Yeah, I know, right? I just, like, I know my limit when it comes to that. And so that's why, and, you know, I think I just, that's why it all hit, you know, like, oh my God, okay, what am I doing? You know, I need to go. Right, you got to put the brakes on it. Yeah, never. been the one night's fans or just like you know meet somebody and fuck them and that's it so

okay you've normally had relationships yeah relationships for sure okay and now so you start dating this guy now why does six months go by and you like you don't have sex ever like that's a little weird yeah we're not having sex you know and the thing is always like when see if i if i if i even if i if i like somebody but i don't really see them as a potential like person in my life. life, you know, I'll have sex with them and it'll be like a casual type thing. You know, like, I know what it is. But for people who I really like, like, I definitely need to wait for the naphtics. They need to earn it from me.

You know, that's kind of like how I go about it. And so I told him off the bat, like, well, see, after that night, because we did fool around. How far? He just, like, fingered me and that was it. I didn't do anything to him. Okay. It took me about like four months until I even sucked a dick.

Yeah, that's good because I'm always like a lot of girls will be like, yeah, I didn't fuck him. But yeah, but I blew them, but like I didn't have sex with them. It's like I think it's a lot worse to have a dick in your mouth. Like if you're talking about having respect. You know what I mean? Like, because that's just like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I like it too, but, you know, like you're just the one that's me in my mouth. Yeah, yeah. To have a dick in your mouth. Like that's something I would wait for more before. Yeah. Yeah. So wait, so but why not the sacks? Like you waited four months to blow him because you're like totally trying to get him to be your boyfriend. Like why do you wait so long? I'm assuming in that four months that you were seeing him a lot. Were you guys like hanging out a lot and stuff? we were hitting out a lot and you know because I did pump the breaks for a minute so after the first night because I was drunk and I was like hey look like I know I went far but you know I like hanging out with you but like can we kind of start over you know so I like kind of like rewind from there and he was totally fine with that that's the thing that I really like about him too is like it's always like on my terms like he's very respectful he doesn't push or anything and um so I even told him I'm like hey look like I'll let you know like my past my last my last boyfriend that I had,

we didn't have, it was a long business relationship, but we didn't have sex until like a year into it. How old was that guy? He was my age. Okay, okay. That's the guy that turned me off of the guy's my age. Oh, okay.

Yeah, so I even, so I guess like throughout these months, you know, like we're just getting to know each other and like I told him about that. I was like, yeah, my life's relationship, like, you know, we didn't have sex for a whole year. You know, I like to wait until I feel like the time's right. And he's totally fine with that. And the thing is with him, he hasn't had, he doesn't have sex either

like that. And he hasn't had sex in like years, like actual penetration sex. How come? He just looks at six. He's a smart guy. You know, he has money and he doesn't want to get caught up. That's like the wrong answer. That's not the reason. That's not the, a smart guy with a lot of money. and that's why he doesn't have sex? No. A smart guy with a lot of money, okay, we'll fuck a high-end escorts or he'll get some really hot girls to fuck him whenever he wants and they'll take money from him

and they won't give him shit. A smart guy with a lot of cash doesn't not have sex so that he doesn't get caught. The guys don't get caught up when they have sex. Like, that's not a thing. That's what happens to girls. It doesn't happen to guys. So he's either lying to you or he can't get it up or something's like going on. Oh. No, he gets it up.

Oh, yeah, you blow him and stuff. He might have weirdo, like, issues where he thinks, like, sex is like, I don't know. I have to get to the bottom of him not having sex. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you don't think, okay, I never really thought about it like that. Who do you mean? Don't you know, man? Okay, let me just tell you something about guys.

They can't go, like, a day without having, coming and jerking off or something. Like, no guy goes years without having sex. Especially a guy that you're, like, you're like. you say has a lot of money. I know that he must have a lot of money because he's like paying your bills. He's buying you a lot of shit. Like this isn't just some like, oh, he's buying you steak dinners. He's giving you a lot of stuff.

Let's go down that list. He's paying $6,000 a month, just money for you, right? He gives you $6 a month. He's got you a personal trainer. He bought you a car, right? Is that one of the things? Yeah. And he wants to buy you a new apartment.

Okay. And you haven't even had sex with him yet. So what is his story about sex? When did it come up between you and you? him about the fact that he doesn't have sex and he's not into it? No, he's into it.

So, okay. Well, I guess it comes up like randomly, but so he says he's not, he doesn't have sex because first of all, he doesn't like wearing a condom. Which I guess a lot of

four guys don't because a lot of guys don't. A lot of people, people don't like condoms. I always say that. Most people. Girls, guys, no one likes condoms. Most people don't use them even though they should. Okay, so he doesn't like condoms, but plenty of girls wills fuck him without a condom. Yeah, but I think also, you know what?

I think he's been like betrayed in the past. So maybe that might have something to do with it, where he's afraid that, you know, a girl will lie about taking the pill or something like that. And, you know, he comes in them and they get pregnant. I don't know. That's my, that's what I think. Well, he could just pull out.

He could just pull out. Okay, what did he actually say to you about why he hasn't had sex for years? What was the exact sentence he said to you? He doesn't have sex. What is he? And what did you? See, you're just too naive to ask the right questions. Like, you just bought it.

I mean, because why do you assume, like, why was your answer to me? He doesn't have sex because he's smart and he has a lot of money and so he doesn't want to get caught up. Like, why did you say that? Like, did he say some version of that to you? No, he doesn't say that. In my mind, he said, he's told me that, he told me that basically he doesn't, he's afraid that a girl is going to, like, you know, get him caught up.

And the thing is, I rationed that with, like, let's say, like an NBA player or, like, something like that. Like, I look at them as done because these, they're fucking these people, these girls who just want a meal ticket, some of them, you know. And then they, they get caught. caught up and they get pregnant and they have to pay child support. So that's kind of how I like, you know, would ration that in my mind. Like, okay, well, that's kind of the smarter thing to do.

It's just, you know, not have sex, but, you know, you get off. It's not to have sex, especially if he has a lot of cash. You sit, like, I mean, the fact that, or he can be there, listen, there is a type of weirdo guy and I think it's weird and I will call him a weirdo. And I don't call anybody on my show. All this shows you see to do, I don't call them any weird, but I call a guy that won't have sex with girls, weird. Okay, that's like a weird issue thing.

Okay, because that's like for years, like, something's going on there. There are like, like I said, the weird, quote unquote weird. It's like a guy who has really weird issues, like commitment issues, and he doesn't like to actually have penetration because he thinks it like leads to something. But like to logically say, oh, because I don't want to get someone. None of it makes sense.

There's something else going on there with him with the sex thing. Yeah, I mean, I think I kind of just was like. like, okay, like I saw that as like, all right, that's being smart, you know, like. You see it that way because you're a woman and you don't have sex for a really long time, which is a little bit weird. I get it more with you. And let me tell you, it's a really good tactic with guys. I know that you're not doing it to play a game.

I know it's your thing. It is a little weird on your end too because you seem to probably use it as like a control thing, probably for yourself, like you don't want to get too involved with someone or maybe too hooked yet. So you keep it on. You keep that, you know, hanging for a very long. time like for a year with one guy six months with it it's very long it listen as a woman i'm going to tell you like that's a that's a that's like a good it's not a game that anyone should play on purpose but you do it and you know a lot of guys won't have the patience to wait but every now and then if you get a guy

like this like it could actually add to them like wanting you more because they never could seal that deal so it does help in a little way though some guys would just not wait around it's just too long i don't know what yeah you long distance relationship was doing but i really did out he wasn't fucking other girls for that whole year. Okay. It's just the way that it goes. I mean, it's to assume that a man is going to wait around. And it's one thing if you're like, you're cool with them fucking other people. But if you really think that they're going to wait around for six months a year, not having sex at all, waiting for your golden pussy.

You're out of your mind. Like, it's just not bad. Oh, yeah. It's not happening. No, I don't know. It definitely depends on the guy. Like I said, you know, like if I don't see something as like a. potential, then, you know, it's like, okay, I know you like a month or so, we click.

No, I know that. I tell people on my podcast all the time, what they don't understand about girls. Like, if a girl meets a guy and she knows I'm never going to date him, she'll fuck him right away. It's the guys that she really likes that she plays that game with, like, I don't want to give it up. But you play the game so long and so much further than anybody else that it's a slight issue with you, too, right?

So that's why you and this guy are kind of perfectly matched, right? And that's why you're kind of like, don't question his saying. I haven't had sex for years. I would be like, what the hell is that deal? You know, but for you it works because you don't want to have sex with them. It's been a whole six of them. What do you guys? Do you guys have like everything else?

Like, have you been totally naked with him, like doing everything else? Yeah. But no one puts it in. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For a 63 year old.

For a 60 year old, yes, it's so dumb. You're grown up. You're in a relationship. Okay. But do you think maybe? maybe is it a thing like guys like getting their dicks up more than sex is that yes but that's a little weird yeah i've met guy i have listen i wrote a book you should read it i've dated every kind of weirdo there is okay i still have a dated a regular guy okay so i know all the weirdo issues because i yeah weird myself right so

trust me is there like what was your question i'm sorry i don't know even why i got to i mean is that a thing like do guys are some guys just more into getting stupid? their dick sucks than having sex. Yes, but there's also the opposite. They like to have sex more than they like to get their dick sucks. But that's a little bit weird. Where somebody, listen, for some man not to like sex, it's just, it's, there's something there.

There's something weird there, which is okay because there's something a little bit with you, too, with sex. Like, sex in your mind is something that you hold on to for a very long time, you know. And it's like, it's a thing that you're using. for it's something more than just about sex because you know and like I said I don't think you're doing it on purpose I don't think you're manipulating anyone I think it's your own thing but subconsciously you have an issue too when it comes to SEX right but let's not get totally into that right now because I know I want to talk a little bit more about the booty call situation and not the booty call

the sugar daddy situation sorry because that's really like because you told me in the email that you feel like you're falling in love with him and might be in love with him. But the hilarious part of your email was at the end. You're just like, I get so much from this guy. I'm thinking to myself, like maybe instead of being monogamous with him, I should go out and find myself more sugar daddies and milk it while I'm young and hot, right? I think that was your exact phrase, which was so funny to me, which is very cute and funny, you know, but, you know.

And so, like, is that really where your head's at right now? like honestly. You know what? Okay. So I think I like the thing is me and it like I have love for this guy, you know? And I don't know. I'm not in love with him, you know, but he's like a really great guy. And, you know, like we click and we just, you know, I think before anything like we make really good.

We're good friends, you know. And so that's why it works. But the thing is I don't want to be dumb about it. You know, like, I guess I want to, because the thing is, it's a relationship, you know, they succeed or they don't, you know? And, I mean, that's just life. So I don't want to, like, I don't think that this guy would ever just, like, pull the rug under me. I mean, we've even had those conversations and, you know, I trust them. But I don't want to have all my eggs in one basket.

And then, like, let's say something goes wrong. And, you know, like, shit. I don't have to do. You lose all your body. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I mean, like, I'm not being stupid. I'm not going on buying, you know, like,

bags and shoes. Like, I'm saving it. But it's like, you know, I want to try, when I'm young, I want to try to get as much as I can out of this situation. Right. But this is the thing. I think, like, I don't know. And I don't want to, like, put my morals and values, like, on you.

I try not to do that on my podcast because I think everybody makes up their own rules and stuff. But, you know, you didn't go into this with the, with that intention, right? you went into this. I didn't. Because you just saw a guy, you kind of clicked with him, and you liked him, right? Now, I have had situations in my life where I have benefited similarly, right? But it was never my intention.

It was strictly like I was having a relationship or having a thing with somebody and these other things came with it. And I feel like sometimes I would look at the situation and be like, wow, if I set out to make this happen in my life, I could have never done it. right and some people would be really jealous of like the hookup that I have but it wasn't my intention it just sort of came and I think that and that's okay I could sit with that you know what I mean and I just feel like wow that's just a lucky break of my life or whatever you know I do but I think when you have the intention to go out and blatantly use a man and say oh I'm young and I'm hot and I'm going to go out and find old men they're going to pay me shit and I'm going to suck their dicks but I'm not going to fuck them I'm like whatever you know and maybe you know and a lot of money so that I'm secure. I think that's a whole other ballgame. And I just don't. I personally could never do that. I think a lot of women sometimes try to do that.

Some are successful. I think sometimes when you set out to do something like that, it's not the right thing. I don't think. And I just think that it leads to other not right things. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I live my life. And because you are a person, like I said,

that came into this unintentionally, and now as we're just reaping all these rewards, I say that to you, you know, whereas if you were like the other girl, you told me you listened to other girls' Sugar Daddy podcast, who that's exactly what she was looking for. And I gave her the information of how to go do it because that's what she wanted it.

And in her mind, that was okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Is that okay for you? Like, do you feel comfortable, like just blatantly going out and finding a bunch of guys to sort of like,

pay for shit for you and like hook your life up like that like is that something that you want for yourself i mean you know i don't the thing is like i don't i don't you know of course i have good morals and a conscious too so i don't want to blatantly go out and use these guys i mean that's the thing i guess that i was like the i think the whole situation that i'm in kind of got my head come up like hey, you know, like, I can do this, you know. With tons of guys. Yeah, like, why not? And I mean, I get, like, guys like me, you know, like, especially the older business

I guess like they like me. I don't know. But so I'm like, maybe, you know, let me try to use this much to my advantage, maybe. But then I don't know if I feel comfortable, like going and picking it out. You know, that's what I mean? Like, what is that? Right. Like, you're thinking about it in your head.

But like, and this is why it's good to talk to me because I'm going to like really question you about it to make you really realize like you don't even probably know like you haven't really thought it through but you need to and you should and you'll be able to figure it out more like so that's what I'm that's why I'm asking these questions so that you could sort it out for yourself so like how does that look for you like because you like this guy right you're at this place you're dating him six months you have a really good set up with him he's even talking about putting you in his will okay so there could be some sort of like you know situation where you have a little bit more security than you have right now, right, with the guy. Because, yeah, if he dumps you

tomorrow or he disappears, like, you're out all of this stuff that you had. But, right? Yeah. So how does, like, when you say to yourself and you say to me, like, should I milk it and find other guys? Like, what does that mean to you? What would you do? Would you leave this guy and go find another one? Or would you have multiple? Like, what does that mean? What do you mean by that? Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like, I don't want to leave him. Okay. So what do you think you're going to do? You're going to think you're going to go out and to keep this guy and then get other guys on the side? Him not knowing, yeah.

Okay, and with that, okay. That's fucked up though. Well, listen to some people, that's fucked up to some people. It's not. Like, maybe that's fine. Like, how does that sit with you? Are you okay with that? That's the thing.

It's like, I don't want to, you know, like, I mean, look, I know I can do that without him knowing, you know, but it's like, I don't know if I even, I mean, as appealing as it does sound, because it's, I think that's the thing, it sounds appealing to me, you know and I wouldn't I wouldn't go like on sugar daddy.com or like that like I don't like that I like meeting people in person but I don't think like just even though I could get away with it like I feel like that would be something that would weigh heavy on me you know like I'm fucking like then I'd be using him you know I'd be fucking him over that's fucked up okay but what are you not getting from him or like what is it because you're getting a lot from him more than you're yeah I'm

Yeah. Most people get in a six-month relationship from a guy that they haven't even had sex with, right? Like I said, we'll go down the list. You've got a personal trainer. You're getting $6,000 a month, right? He just gives that to you. What does he do that he has all this cash? He comes from money and he has property and he also is pretty high up in his position.

Okay, so he's a businessman who has a lot of money. You've been to his house, like, is he married or any of that shit? Like, does he have anything secret life going on? No, he's not married. You've been to his house? Yeah, I've met his son. What kind of, does he have, like, a killer house or an apartment? Like, where to, like?

He's, well, he did, he moved. And right now he's in the apartment because he's trying to buy a house. So it's like a cute little apartment. Nothing too big, yeah. But, yeah, he, like, I pretty much, I've met so many. of his friend, like I'm in his life, you know, like, and people know me and, um, but maybe, I mean, you rapists, you got me thinking about, you know, sex thing. He was married once before. Yeah, and his wife, she passed. And he got into a lot of trouble over his trying to keep his wife happy

and give her everything. And she kind of like, she cheated on him and treated him, like, really bad. So, I mean, now that I think about that, maybe that happens to do with the fact that, you know, he's okay with not having sex. He's not okay with not having sex. Something's going on there. I don't know. It's weird. I don't, I don't know. If he didn't have sex for years and he has a sex drive because you say that he gets it up and he wants you to blow him and all this stuff and he seems horny.

That it just doesn't make sense to go years. I mean, like, is he, and if he has a lot of cash and he's out and about and he's the type of guy that walks up to a girl and a girl. a casual restaurant and hits on her. Look, what he did to you is like what he, what he could do in his life, right? Like you always have to know that about a guy, right? Like he came up to you randomly and said, hey, come to this event.

And he's at that event. And so he must go to other events. So it's not like this guy is like, couldn't get laid in years. And that's why he has it. He can. He has the confidence to hit girls up. So he's either lying or he's got some weirdo issue.

You know, because I don't buy the whole, I don't, haven't had sex in years. And the fact that he's been with you for six months and he's giving you all this stuff and he doesn't even pressure you to have sex. He's like, he's either having sex with somebody else. Maybe he's secretly gay or he has some weird thing about sex. Like it means something weird to him. Sex like putting his dick inside someone is like too much. Yeah. And you know what? It might be too much.

Yeah. Yeah. And I even, okay, there's been times where I'm like, you know, I want to have sex. And he's like, no, you really don't want to. Because, I mean, I'll be drunk, of course. Yeah. Come on. All that other stuff is foreplay.

They call it for a reason. Yeah. And he's like, no. And then I'm like, Matt, you know, even though, like, I don't know if I was over. I don't know if I probably would. I don't know. But. Why wouldn't you?

You've been dating for six months. Look at all the shit he gives you. You should at least have sex with him. No, I'm joking. For that six grand a month, you should at least screw him. But, I mean, come on. Like it's just so dumb. Like you're doing everything else.

Your legs are spread as faces. Like he goes down on you, right? Okay. Please don't tell me that you guys have had anal sex. Like you don't have any kind of. Oh, no, no, no. No, I have never had anal sex. Okay.

So you guys, so you're doing all this other stuff, but the dick just does not go inside. Okay. It's just. I tried, but yeah, it won't happen. Yeah, I had a guy in my book. He's like the halfway in guy. Me and my friends called him the halfway in guy. He would not, he actually wouldn't have sex with me.

And then when he would, he would only put it in halfway. And then we'd sit there. Oh, that's torture. Yeah, we would sit there and we would call it the halfway in game, my friends. And like, because people would be like, how did you date him for so long? And how did you do that? And I'm like, after a while, it got to be, like, kind of hot. It was like this weird thing.

And I've actually played the halfway in game with other guys that, of course, would put it in all the way. And there is something hot about torturing yourself for a very long time and then putting it all the way in. But, like, he won't. even put it halfway in, right? Your guy. No. No. He says no. He says no.

Do you think he, does he have herpes? Like, have you ever looked at his dick? Like, he obviously, like, you, you've blown him, right? Like, he has nothing on his dick. Like, it looks fine. Have you seen it in the left? Yeah, no, it's fine, yeah. You know, I think he mentioned, he also didn't mention something about, like, there's diseases and stuff nowadays.

Yeah, no, I, listen, I have said a lot of times, and I believe this, because I'm a hypochondract and a long-term booty column. mine was a hypochondriac and we were so good with using condoms and I'm really good with that but other people most people are and I always say that phypochondriacs are like the best people with condoms because they're so petrified of like AIDS and diseases like that yeah they're very but the fact that but when okay so like the guys that I have known that are like that they'll still put a condom on then you know what I mean yeah but the thing is I think okay so that's actually how the conversation went because

He, so he doesn't like condoms. He doesn't want to get a girl pregnant. And he doesn't want to get, you know, diseases. Mm-hmm. So those were the three things why he doesn't want to have sex. But doesn't he miss having his dick inside a girl? I mean, come on. We need a guy on this phone call.

Like, there's no way that he just doesn't miss that actual penetration. And I know the most, like the guy I screwed for a very long time. He was a major hypochondriac. He still would put it on and we would have sex with a condom. Like, I mean, if you can do that. Or, like, he'd be asking to put it in your ass. I guess he could give you a disease that way. But, like, I just don't get, and, you know, you could give him a disease with a blowjob,

and he goes down on you, right? You're not using, like, anything. No. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. You don't think that's weird? Should I be concerned? No, because you're a little weird, too, because you made one guy wait for a year,

and you didn't have sex with him. Right? What was that all about? Oh, God. Exactly. We're not going to get into that one. Okay, so this guy, how does it come up? Let me just ask you this.

How did it come up that he gave you six grand a month? And, like, how did it come up all those things that he's given you? Yeah. So I've never asked him for money. And you shouldn't. Yeah. I don't feel comfortable with doing that. But so, the funny thing happens.

So we were dating. and it started off with just like, you know, we got to restaurants and stuff. And he's always been kind of like generous. Like I would Uber over to his place and then we'd go to the restaurants together. And then when I'd Uber, he's like, oh, how much is the Uber? I'd be like, oh, $30. And he like would hand me $100. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I totally know that guy. I've dated that guy. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how it started. And then, okay, and then. And then so I was meeting him for. date one time and I got rear-ended and so my car I was a old car too so my car got messed up so we went to

the ticket to the shop and it was actually it got totaled so then you know him being knowing people in the car industry and stuff you know we were able to he that's when he got me like a new car and what kind of car well he wanted to give me a like really like a a a a an Audi, but I was afraid because I didn't know what I would tell. I wasn't making a lot of money at that time. Yeah. So, you know, I couldn't like bring that home and be like, hey, look at my new car mom.

You know, so I'm like, okay, let's go with like something nice, you know, a Volkswagen. So I got a Volkswagen. Okay. How much was that car? Or does he just pay your car payments? Yeah, he just pays my car payment. Okay. And I'm leasing it. So Is it in your name or his name?

My name. Okay, that's cool. But so like, and how much is that payment? It's only like 200 a month. Okay. So you could afford it if God forbid like he left you. It's something you could afford. But he pays it. Yeah, I always try to be smart about that. You know, nothing's like too crazy. Right, right. Cool. So he got you that car and then how did the cash come up? Yeah. And so because of the car situation, I had to call out a work a few times. What do you do for a living? They ended up, what did I do? I was in PR. Okay. I was. I was. But this was like, it was a shitty job anyway.

Like, I couldn't care about it. And I think, you know, I just kind of dwindle out of it. So basically I got fired. And then, so it all kind of happened at once. My car, the job. I was like, oh, my God. I was really, like, in the dump. And he's like, don't worry about it.

Like, I got you. You know, I got you. And he's like, honestly, just take the summer off. And, you know, like, I'll take care of your bills. I'll take care of everything. And just, like, take some time to just, like, you know, get used to where, you know, the new city and everything. I was like, okay, you know, I kind of just went with it.

And so it started now. So then that's when it started. And so, like, he's just been, you know, pretty much taking care of me ever, ever since then. That was about four months ago, maybe. So how did the sixth grade a month get calculated? So we added up all my rent and my bills. And he's like, okay, like, this is so added up. So that, you know, I don't know how that much, how much that was.

But calculated that. And then, so he gave me that cash up front, and then he would just give me like a thousand a week, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I don't know. He would just hand it. He was, oh, are you good own cash? Like, here's some more cash.

You know, he just wanted, I guess, wanted me to, like, not worry about that. And then, I guess, the personal trainer and everything started coming up because we had always gone to eat. And, like, I complained because, like, I was gaining weight. And then he just ended up getting me a gym membership and then a personal trainer. Yeah, that's great. yeah and now how about the will when how did it come up that he wanted to put you in his will yeah um well he we just have conversations sometimes um you know like heart to heart so i guess i came up in one of um he ended up getting a settlement for one of this or i don't know something that

happened and so when that happened he was like look i want to um put i want to give you I want to put $25,000 aside for you, you know, so you'll be good. And anything happened to me, it was, I think it was like 200,000 that he got. He's like, anybody happened to me, I want to tell my attorney to put your name on it. So, you know, you'll be fine. And, you know, you'll, yeah, be fine, basically. Right. And so now with this guy, right, so you're not working now, I'm assuming, still?

Yeah, no. And so what I don't understand Like I think you hit the jackpot I think you're very lucky I'm just going to tell you Because I know guys like this I've had situations like this And I know people that aren't like this

And like it's not easy Like as much as you stepped into this It's not so easy to find somebody That is going to do all that It's not like oh you could leave him And there's going to be 10 more guys That have the money that are going to do that that are not going to, you know, you got like a great situation that you probably couldn't replicate

if you tried. I'm just telling you that. Yeah. I know that it exists because I know that it exists, right? Yeah. And you're very lucky. And like I said, because it wasn't your intention, a lot of times that's how it happens. If someone said to you, your friend, you know, a year ago, like, you should quit your job

and find a guy that will do this and that and that for you, you're like, how the hell could I do that, right? That's what that girl called my podcast. Everybody wants your situation because it's kind of great, right? It gives you time to sit around, try to figure out what you really want to do, especially in your life because you're super young, right? And you're still trying to figure things out. So it's definitely like very helpful to you to have him in his, in your life. And he's nice. Well, he might be weird about sex, but he seems like he's a nice person, right? And he's nice to you. And he takes care of you in the right way. You know, I don't know why you're, you're, um, A, afraid to put all your eggs in one back.

Like, what are you afraid of when you say put all my eggs in one basket? Do you just want more because you're getting like kind of greedy? Or is it that you're afraid you're going to lose him? Yeah. You know what? Okay, it might be a mix of both actions that. I mean, I'm not afraid that I'm going to lose him. I just don't want to be, you know, stupid in the situation, you know,

because it's a guy. These guys come and go in life, you know? Right. And, okay, so I think it started this whole. like, you know, get us made sure you're anything to be attached because so I'm, I look for it because, you know, even the eight difference, like, it's kind of, I guess, it's not very taboo, but it is a little taboo, you know, like, there's not a lot of 23-year-olds, like, dating six-year-olds. So I don't have a lot of people I can talk to about this and, like, inside them.

So, like, looking for forums or, like, people I can, like, just talk to online, I, that's when I kind of, like, the people I connected the best with were, like, sugar babies. and, you know, like on these, like, online forums or, like, they're podcasts and stuff. So I think that I just started listening to, like, you know, all this. And they're, like, they're juggling, like, seven, you know, five, six sugar guys making all this stuff. So I'm like, hey, you know, I can do that too. So I think that's where the whole, like, no shaving came in. And so I've kind of been playing it out in my head.

But then when it actually comes to, like, like, because I don't, I don't want to go online, you know. I'll go to like bars and stuff and see what's out there. But I don't feel like I'm not like, I can't actively get them. You know, I just, there's something that holds me back, you know? Holding you back from what? From actually going out and like really doing it and meeting and new. Yeah, from like going up and like trying to approach these guys. Like even trying, you know, because I feel like even if like some guy would come to me like,

I probably wouldn't even pursue it, you know? Like I don't, I don't know. There's something that just holds me back and it's him, you know? because I don't want to hurt him. It's not just hurting him. You kind of like him and you said like if you don't like I mean you're not one to really just go out and have like most guys are going to want you to have sex with them. Okay.

Yeah. Of course. Right? And they're not going to be like this guy doesn't even want you to have sex with him. The other guys are going to be maybe a little bit more work and you might not even like them and they might be ugly. It's very hard to talk to like those professional girls that are doing it because that's a whole different ball game.

And I don't. Do you know what I mean? And I don't. know that you're able to it's a totally different thing you know they probably don't have feelings they might be friends with the guys but they're playing more than one at a time are they having sex with all of them are you the type that's going to have sex with all of them can you you know it's juggling a lot of people if they don't know about it you know how hard lying is if you're not a liar like it's to me it's such a waste of time i don't you know what i mean yeah well you're going to

have to lie a lot if you play that game. Do you know what I mean? It just doesn't make sense. What you're better off doing like for real is just, you know, being really cool and open with this guy and telling him about your fears and like because you quit your job and like you don't have a job and now you don't have a future. And what if you lose all this? Like what are you supposed to do?

Like maybe he'll give you a little bit more of security. But also you have to be smart. And while you're with him, you should be figuring out really, you know, take the time. to figure out what you want to do and how you're going to set yourself up, you know, financially. Yeah. On some level, because it's great when you have somebody paying for you or you have the means to sort of take the time off and figure out what you want to do. Yeah.

Because you have to figure, you're only 23 years old. Like, what do you want to do for the, like, not for the rest of your life? Because that's so ridiculous. It's too much, you know, to think about. But like, what do you aspire to be? Like, what in your wildest fantasy, like, would you do for a living? if you could. Like, what do you want to do?

Yeah. I want to be an entrepreneur. Like, I want to open a bar. I really, and that's actually, yeah, that's what I'm, you know,

talking to him about. Exactly. And he can help you. That's the smartest thing to do. There's not like, these guys exist, right? And they're not a dime a dozen.

And a lot of them are smart. They're not interested. The girl that plays them and they know, they're not dumb, okay, they know a girl that's just using them. They don't,

they're not, you're not going to get, as much sometimes from the guy when he knows it's just like a purely transactional relationship. This guy that's with you, he's not stupid. He knows that you actually really care about him. He knows that you guys are good friends. You know what I mean? He knows that there's something more there.

And that's why you're getting, I think, probably a lot more than maybe somebody else that was just, like I said, transactional. Like, I'm screwing you. I'm like, you know, a professional. You're my sugar daddy kind of situation. Not to say that those guys don't like those situations. Sometimes they do because it's no bullshit and they have wives or they have other things going on and they don't, they want it to be transactional. It's a lot easier.

But this guy obviously enjoys your company, likes the friendship and wants a little bit more as well and likes what you guys have together. So I think you should keep all your eggs in this basket. I don't think the grass is any greener on the other side. I think you lucked out. I think you have a very good situation. And if you become greedy, because it would be all for the wrong reasons. And think that you're going to go out and better your situation, I think it's eventually will bite it.

I think it will bite you in the ass because I just don't think that that's the right way to go. Yeah. You know? And then, you know, I'll be shit out of luck, you know. You're going to have to go back to that bad PR job. PR pays no money. It pays no money. Even when you're at the top of the PR totem pole, you're still not making any cash.

Change business. So, yeah, you have a really good guy and a good friend right now, okay, in this guy. And he's helping you. Have him help you with your business and your bar. Have him help you open something up and get, like, you know, you don't know where this relationship is going to take you. He could be a friend of yours for the next 10 years and he could set you up for the rest of your life and you could always be indebted to him.

as the guy who really helped you. You know what I mean? And I just think that you don't want to mess that up. So I think you'd be foolish. I think you should stop listening to Sugar Daddy things. Because you don't have a Sugar Daddy. You have a boyfriend. Yeah, it's very old.

I mean, like, why do you, what's your deal with the, like, and why do you not tell me? I call him my man, friend. Okay. Why do you not tell anybody about it? Like, why is it such a secret? Is it because of the age difference? Don't people know by now that you're into old guys?

I mean, I guess I yeah, no somewhat. I mean, I'm a very private person and I don't. I mean, my friends, I just feel like they judge and they think like even though I can explain to them, you know, it's genuine. Like I really like this guy. They just think it's like weird, you know? Yeah, because there is, it's definitely not the norm, right? Like why? But, you know, it's why do you think you like older?

you said you have a thing for older guys like did you not like is it a daddy issue thing no it's not a daddy issue um it's definitely a reality thing like i mean let's face it i mean even guys older guys too they cheat but i think it had to do with a lot of my my last relationship being with somebody in my age um you know going through not only like i you know i'm there for them like emotionally and they're want to fuck every girl you know but it's like it's also you know like they aren't good financially they are going to you know don't know what they want to do you know it's just like a lot of like confusion and it's like i want some stability when it comes of dating you know i want somebody who not as to i'm not like i wasn't looking for someone to take care of me even though

it kind of happened but i want you to be financially stable i don't want you to be fucking every girl you see you know i think with older guys it's sometimes it's more quality than quantity. Yeah, listen, I remember the first, because I always dated when I was younger, I was like a total fuck up. And like I always dated like dirty musicians, you know, that had no money, okay? And then I quit drinking and I cleaned up my act a little bit. And I still dated douchebags, but they had money.

And it was a totally different scene. And like even the ones that didn't have like millions of dollars, but like there's something about, you know, when you're with a man who like will give the cab driver, Like I've had that guy that gives the cab driver 50 bucks like take her home, you know, make sure she's okay. There is something that makes you feel as a woman like secure and stable and warning for a guy that could provide that stuff. It's sexy. Yeah. And let me tell you, I have this argument with guys all the time.

And there's going to be guys that are going to be listening to this podcast that are just thinking that we're such assholes because they're guys that don't have maybe a lot of money. But even if you don't have money, it's not about that. because I had once a really poor guy, but like when I was with him, no matter what I wanted, whether it was a snapple or a pack of gum or a drink, or he made sure he got it and he took care of me. And there's something about that that makes a girl horny for a guy.

And it's no different, okay? Like I always say this, like because guys think, oh, girls that like guys that have money or if they're more attracted to them, like they're money hungry gold diggers. It's like seriously, it's nature, okay?

It's no different. the men who like younger girls that look really pretty, okay? Why is that not a bad thing? Why don't we say to a man when he's attracted to girls strictly because of what she looks like how that's terrible? It's no different. And you know why that's not terrible? Because that's nature too.

If we were cows, we'd be doing the same thing, okay? If we were cows, if we were female cows, we would not be looking at the loser male cow that had a broken leg and was like laying down and the ground. and the grass doing nothing and be like, yeah, we want to have babies with him, okay? That would be very unnatural, okay? We want the cow that's working hard that has all the money because we want to have babies and that's how we feel horny. Like that's who we're attracted to as cows, as women, as cats.

Like, it's just a fucking nature, okay? That's just like a cow, a male cow is not going to look at the busted 47-year-old cow, which would be me, by the way, because I'm 47. If me and you were both cows, okay, a man is more likely going to be the normal man is going to be more attracted to you at 23 because you can procreate and I can't, okay? And that's just a fact. Do I look at that cow and say, oh my God, you're such an asshole. You like someone younger than me. No, I get it.

It's just the way that it is. Now, we're not cow. I'm sure you're a hot cow. I am a hot cow and I still get guys. But it's like, listen, it's much deeper than that. You know, people could argue this point. but I'm saying on a very basic level, okay, there is this weird thing that women have

when a man like pulls out a wad of cash. It's the same thing that a man experiences when he sees a girl that's just a fucking knockout, okay? It's the same kind of feeling. It's not bad. It doesn't make you like money hungry or shallow. It's a natural reaction that happens. Yes, because that's like the,

That's the nature thing because in our in for in nature like we're supposed to procreate with someone who could take care of our babies and take care of us and go out and make the money and come back. It's caveman shit. Provider. Yes. So that's why listen, you'll probably still date poor guys in the rest of your life. You might wind up with another poor guy like it all it happens. We like who we like. But when you meet a guy and he's got that money and he does that it does make you feel good and there's nothing. Yeah.

That's actually very normal. There's not doesn't Yeah. But when you take it to another level and you say, oh, now I'm going to go out and just only look for that. You know what I mean? The money or whatever. That's when to me,

it gets to be a little fucked up. But like I said, I wouldn't judge you. Like if that's what you feel is okay according to you and how you go about it like these other girls and they're cool with it, that's fine. You know, I,

because you didn't start off that way. I just don't. I think you might have a hard time with it because it's a very different game. And I think you're only getting a lot from this guy because he smells on every level that you genuinely like him. You're there. You're fooling around with him. Are you sleeping with anybody else? No.

Right. So you're kind of loyal. Yeah, kind of. What does kind of mean? You can't kind of fuck somebody. Are you sleeping with someone? Are you just fooling around with someone else? No, I'm not fooling around with someone else.

But, I mean, I did. Um, yeah. Yeah, what? I did, yeah. Okay, so he kind of got me thinking about, you know, like threesomes and like messing with girls and stuff. So, um, there was a situation recently that happened. So I ended up having a threesome, well, more like a four-sum. So it was supposed to be me and this girl and my friend.

And then my friend had a boyfriend, too. So he ended up joining it. So it became this kind of like orgy thing Okay wait wait wait wait Start from the beginning I'm probably gonna cut out the cow stuff So that we have this stuff in because we're getting late in the podcast And I want to make sure I get this shit in

Okay start off how this four-sum and threesome and whatever Happens this guy starts talking about having a threesome But you don't have it with him You wind up talking to your friend about it And she says yeah let's do it And then you find another girl and then you find her guy And then it winds up to be this whole big thing How does that happen?

No so he so we We're talking sometimes like, you know, like, oh, that'd be hot if you were like with a girl, you know, and I can watch or something. And at first I was like, oh, okay, you know, I've never really done that. So I kind of like started me like, okay, that could be cool, you know, that would be something like I could try. So ends up being at this party and, I mean, I didn't go into it as a thing, you know, like I ended up being at this party. It was, it was on a yacht. And so, like, it was just like really sexy, you know, I was like feeling good. And so this girl.

I guess you're like a full on lesbian came on to me. And so we ended up going in a room and messing around. And then people, I mean, not people, my friend ended up seeing us. And she joined in two. So it was a threesome at first. And then I guess her boyfriend came in and joined in as well. So it ended up being like a four-sum. But, you know, we all had sex.

So, I mean, technically I cheated on them. But I told him about, so I told him, you know, like after the whole thing happened, I'm like, oh, my God, he's going to love it, you know? So I went and I told him, you know, what happened, but I excluded the guy, of course. Right. Uh-huh. And, you know, and then at first, like, he was like, okay, that's hot. And then he got mad at me and was, like, trying to break up with me.

You know, he was like, well, you gave your bite to somebody else and you didn't even ask me, you know, like you didn't have permission. I mean, not permission, but, like, you didn't talk to me about it. Like, you know, it was, like, cheating. Yeah, so basically I cheated. So at first he liked it. then he got mad at me trying to break it off and then it was like no like come on that's dumb like don't do that and he's like okay i mean look if you want to do that again just like talk to me about it and you know we'll figure it out but you know if that would happen with the guy we'd be done right so he doesn't

know now has that happened since again um yeah oh my god it's so funny when people say um i know that it's a yes no because i was actually thinking did happen yeah I have been twice. I mean, the thing is now I have such bad guilt. I feel, even both times, I felt really bad afterwards. Like, I don't want to do it again, you know. Wait, so how did it have? First of all, let's just give my listeners a couple of gory details

because they're going to love this. They love when girls do, like, you know, fun sex stuff. So on that boat, you go into the room with a girl, right? And you guys start getting it on, like, full on, like, you're totally naked kind of stuff. Oh my God, what are you doing? Yeah, we're, like, messing around. I mean, the whole thing was kind of blur. I swear somebody was something in my drinks, but.

Oh, okay, you might have been roofies. I mean, I don't think that, but I would just, I didn't think I drink that much, but I remember everything. It was just, like, all one thing. It just happened. So, yeah, we went to the room, me and the girl, and so we're, like, messing around, like, you know, we're, like, you know, touching each other's boobs, and like she goes down on me

and I go down on her and we're just like totally into it I think we even are like scissoring too and we're in this room and there's a glass door so I'm unbeknown to us people are like walking in and you're not walking in yeah no

they actually did walk in a few of them and people can see us people see this going down and so I guess my friend ended up seeing because I didn't know this girl that I'm fucking with and my friend ends up coming down and seeing it too and she's like oh my god i want a part of this so she gets naked and we're all like you know it's like a i don't even know whose hands are where like i think i'm eating out

my friend and sucking her boobs while somebody's fingering me and then the her boyfriend ends up coming in too and so they start having sex and me and the girl are hooking up and then he ends up fucking all of us and um even the less Why he did that? Yeah, even the lesbian, but I guess I didn't even like it. But, yeah, so, I mean, I was enjoying it. It kind of just all happened. And yeah, so I ended up fucking him.

And so once that happened, I guess I just opened the door. So when I saw them again, me and my friend and her boyfriend, we ended up doing that again. You and the friend, but the lesbian wasn't there? No, the lesbian was gone. I don't even know her. Right. But then the second time, it just felt like it wasn't right. You know, like, this is like, I felt a little, like, dirty because it's like I feel, you know, like, I just feel like, like, the first time was fine because it was like an experience this time.

It's like, all right, this isn't what I want to do, you know? Mm-hmm. But you were drinking again and it just happened or you decided to. I was drinking again. Yeah, I was drinking again. That's, yeah, I don't think I would have done that. Right. Listen, you're young.

You're figuring your stuff out. You're having fun. I mean, that's what you should be. doing. It's cool that you told him the first time, you know, and explained it. You know, you have to like figure this stuff out for yourself. And that's what I believe your 20s were all about, you know, trying out different things, figuring out what works for you and creating those rules and stuff for yourself. You know, you could figure, you know, it's all about what you want to do and what sits right with you, you know. I don't think people are wrong for trying things out. It's just,

and then you see how you feel. If you start to feel like, oh, this doesn't feel right. So maybe try not to do it, you know? That's just the way that it goes. But like, and so I don't, like I said, I mean, I hate to always tell people what to do. And you didn't really call in looking for advice and I'm sitting here trying to tell you like that you shouldn't go look for other sugar days. If that's what you want to do, you know, maybe that's what you want to. Maybe you need to try that out. I don't know.

But I personally think you have a really good thing going with this guy and you should try to keep him as a friend and remain as like open and cool with him as possible. because that's a good guy that you have. And you're lucky, you know. And I just don't think that that's so easy. But I think that, you know, maybe, you know, you shouldn't drink so much sometimes if you're in a situation that you don't want to like wind up doing something that you don't want to do. Because alcohol always like lets us cross that line, right?

So maybe if you want to be a little bit better, don't drink as much when you're at certain places. But like, you know, I don't know. Listen, that's what did he get. Like, he's dating a 23-year-old, and then he's going to be worried that, like, she's out drinking, having threesomes and having fun. I mean, isn't that what people do when they're 23rd? Like, I totally understand. You know, it's realistic.

Yeah. I just don't want to be fucked up. You know, I've been cheating on, and it's not fun. Right. So, right. And now you're doing the quote-unquote cheating. But, you know, like, let me ask you this. If, like, alcohol wasn't involved.

Would you do that? No. No. Exactly. So you have to like maybe cut back a little bit on the drinking in situations because you can't trust you. But you got to figure out what the hell is going on actually with your relationship with this guy. Like has it been defined? Like are you his girlfriend?

Is he your boyfriend? Like is it? Have you not defined it because you don't tell anyone about him? And like, like I call him, like I say, I call him my man friend. Yeah. We're like in a relationship. But like, you know, I think we both are kind of commitment like for you because like when you, you do put that label on it, it kind of puts you in a box.

Yeah. So we like that open box. So, you know, I'll bring it up. Like, so are we like together? He's like, what? No, what are you talking about? You know, but like we'll go out. He's like, oh, you know, my girlfriend.

So, yeah. Yeah, well, that's why you're both so, you have weirdo issues about sex because you're both afraid to really fall in love with each other or like to really make it official. Yeah, we're just two weirdos together, I guess. Yeah, that works. It works. Both of you right now.

It does. You know, and I think that he's a good weirdo to have in your life. It's better than a poor weirdo. Yeah. I know. I like, yeah, I like the weirdo, I think. Well, no, I mean, I think it works for you because you have the thing with sex, too. So you guys are on the same page.

I think it would be very frustrating to somebody that wants to have real sex and they can't have sex because he doesn't want to, you know. Or vice versa. If that was a guy that wanted to sleep with you, you know, on the thing. third date and you were like no but I want to you know I want you to pay for me and do all this stuff but I'm not going to fuck you for six months a lot of guys would tell you to they just go find another girl it's not hard nowadays to just find somebody else but you have a six year old guy like maybe he's not interested in that right now do you know for sure that he's not with anybody else oh yeah 100% I'm like I you know I'm looking at phone um you know I make

I know for sure like he couldn't hide that for me right cool So you know for sure that you're like his one and only and from what he knows you had that three son with the girls, but he doesn't know that you fucked a guy. But you're not like clearly dating anybody else. No, no dating. Right. But you're wondering if you should. Yeah. I mean, you know, like curious.

Curious and like, yeah. I mean, it sounds good. But you're right. It's not easy. And I don't want to fuck everybody, you know. And I don't want to be an escort. This might be, you know, for right now, like, I know that for right now, this is like a really great situation you have.

It would be a great situation to have when you're 45, you know, or 43, you're 23 years old. Yeah. You're pretty lucky. If I were you, I try to keep your alcohol consumption under control while you're with this guy so you don't cheat on him anymore so that you don't ruin your relationship with him until you at least have your bar and you set up like your life. a little bit more. I would just continue to date him and see where it goes.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think the more, you know, the longer we're together, the more, you know, like, trust that he'll have in me. And so I'll be secure no matter what happens to. Yeah. Just keep him out. Like, make sure you keep him as a friend and a good friend because then that relationship

could never end. I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I would just be cool with him. and I would stop looking elsewhere. Stop sort of keeping it in, like stop framing it as a sugar daddy situation. It's not.

You have a guy that you're dating that happens to take care of you right now. And that's no different than somebody that's married to somebody that's paying for their stuff too. And maybe they're not working, you know? So, and that's what I would do if I were you. But if you do try out the sugar datties and go on more dates and this whole thing blows up in your face, I'd love to have you back on and hear about that. You are horrible. No, you know what I mean.

But no, I mean. It would be such an interesting story. I would have to come. Yeah. I mean, who knows? You're 23 years old. I believe life is about trying to figure things out, making mistakes. I do not believe that you have to be perfect, especially not at your age.

And I know that when you're in your 20s, you hate to hear people talking about your age, like you're so young or what. I think it's like insulting to 20-something-year-olds. But it's just the truth, okay? And, you know, you're at that age where you're figuring out a lot of things for yourself. And I hope you don't go down the path to turn into like a using girl who like uses guys for sugar days. I don't think that that's a good person to be personally. So I hope that you don't make that choice. I hope that this situation doesn't turn you into that.

I hope you don't become greedy. Unfortunately, that does happen to people when they get a little cash. And that just shows who somebody is. hopefully that's not your deep down character. Try not to be greedy. Try to, you know, and try to remain like not. Just try to stay the way that you are and don't go down that other path. But, you know, if you do, that's your, that's your thing.

I just think in the long run that stuff bites you in the ass and those girls are lonely. Like there's consequences to that kind of stuff because it's not coming from the right place when you're just using somebody for cash. Yeah, I might use karma. person too so like you know that you know I just feel like it brings that energy yeah because whatever you put out you get back if you start just looking at guys as like a money thing what are you going to get back you're not going to get back real love or real companionship or anything real and you're going to be you might have money and you might have your bills pay but you might have to drink a lot more because you might be like really lonely and miserable deep down inside you know what I mean and you don't want to

be that person I think that you could get you could get really bad so you know stick with this guy and try not to do the wrong thing. I'd still have you back on because I just can't wait till you guys have sex because that's a whole other year to wish where I could talk about for like an hour. You need to ask him more questions. Yeah, okay, so I need to talk to him about this because you know what? You're starting to have me wondering, I need to figure out how long it's been since he has sex and why the hell does you want to fuck me?

Yeah, no, I would say, what is your thing with sex? He's got a thing with sex and it might be related to commitment. he might think that that means like halfway in guy that it gets really serious and he might think it just might be too much for him and that's his way of keeping it casual you know and he who knows but it's something it's not it's kind of weird if you ever get the answer from him let me know but like you know yeah i'm gonna talk to about that yeah please keep me posted oh yes oh well it was good i'm glad because you know what i think you put everything into perspective because like i said i don't like I can't really talk to people about this.

So it's good, you know. It's good to be able to like kind of get some insight from you. And I don't think I want to go on about that either. It just seems like a full-time job, too. It is. It is. Focus on like your future and what you're going to do if you want to open up. Like put your time and energy into that.

And what you have in front of you right now, just savor that, be happy. Be happy. You know, you're lucky that you met this guy. And he's doing that for you. And so, and, you know, don't think ahead and that you want more. Just be happy with what you have right now because what you have right now is great. Yeah. Okay.

And enjoy it. Okay. Okay. Okay. But keep me posted. I will. Thank you so much. All right.

Thank you for calling in. Honey Lexus is going to be a good one. Yes. I'll let you know when I'll post it. All right. Bye. Bye. Okay.

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