Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1501 - FETISH FRIDAY MIchael is Into Crossdressing, Pantyhose, Guys and More

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Michael is into pantyhose, crossdressing, guys and more and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when he realized he was into pantyhose, when he started wearing them, how and when he started dressing in feminine clothing as well, when it all became a sexual thing to him, when he realized he was into men and what wired him into older guys, his first hook up with a guy while dressed up and what went down, all the other guys he hooked up with and what would go down, how he felt about his fetishes and how and when he wound up feeling better about them, how he wound up telling his wife about all of his fetishes and interest in guys and how she reacted, how and why he wears under his clothes now on the daily, how and why him and his wife role play the cuck scenario, how his wife is into cuckqueaning and how they role play that too, how he still hooks up with guys behind her back and how and why he doesn’t feel guilty about, where he cheats on her and why he should chose another location plus a whole lot more. REPEAT, originally aired 8/24 GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  or Pre-order audiobook version ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To see HOT pics of my female guests + get exclusive FETISH episodes + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $8 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VB.HEALTH ⁠⁠⁠- To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY  ⁠⁠Shamelesscare.com⁠⁠ - Use code STRICTLY for $15 of all products ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beduc.at/pd2622-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Rythm.Health/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠for 15% OFF your first month PLUS FREE shipping Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.

The temptation is just too much. It's real problems. Your friend know that you're banging her or no. No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whip. and chain. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you

haven't followed the strictly anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at strict anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called strictly anonymous because I keep everyone anonymous. I change people's voices. You can email me from a phony email, call me from a phony number. I just want to hear your true story. And since this is a fetish Friday episode, I love to hear your story about your unique fetish. Whatever you're into, if you got a fetish, you could be on the show. And if you have a pantyose fetish or a cross-dressing fetish and you call in, I will give you free access to my Patreon. Now, on my Patreon, I have two tiers, one for cross-dusters and one for hosers. Those are guys who like panty-hose. On those tiers, you get every single

episode, early, ad-free, plus intro-free. Also, you get all the picks, anonymous Misspix of all my guests plus you get exclusive content over there and since I've been doing this for many many years over on Patreon there's so much exclusive pantyhose fetish episodes and cross-dressing episodes that are only available on Patreon. The hoser tier is $8 a month. The cross-dressing tier is $10 month because cross-dresses also get the hoser episodes as well but if you call into my show you're going to get a whole year free. So if you want to call into the show, because you have a fetish that you want to talk about. Send me an email, strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com,

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Michael is a younger guy. He's still in his 30s. He's a hoser. He's a cross-dresser. He only loves him. likes to dress up a little bit when he hooks up with guys. He's pretty lucky in that he's got a girl who knows a lot about him, but she doesn't know that he still is hooking up with guys, yet they're role playing him fucking guys and her watching and her fucking girls and him watching and him fucking

girls and her watching. It's like super interesting when you hear like how far, like I said, he's been with his wife as far as how honest he's been with his wife, yet he hasn't told her that he still continues to actually see guys. And we talk about that. But first we go all the way back, We talk about when he realized he had a panos fetish, when he realized he was into like dressing up, when he started hooking up with guys, how he felt about that. And then all the his hookups with guys, he's very into older men. He talks about why. You got to hear the story.

And then we talk about his wife and how and why he wound up telling her how she reacted and all the roleplaying. And shit they, they do together as well as all the cheating. He still does because he does see guys on the side. And I give him some advice at the end. It's a super interesting episode. so I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Michael. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast.

Hi, Michael. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? Good, you? I'm good. Listen, Michael, you got a lot of stuff going down here. You're into a lot of fetishes. You got some kinks.

You've got a Panios fetish. You like to cross-dress. Sometimes for men, most of the time when guys are dressing, they do like to dress when they meet a guy. you're also into being a cock, right? You consider yourself a cuckold. You and your wife role plays and stuff. I don't know the extent of what your wife knows and doesn't know,

but you're going to tell me all of that. That's what we're here to do. So why don't we start out with where you're at now? So you're married, right, for how long? I believe about 12 years. Okay, cool. And now does your wife know about all this stuff that we're going to be talking about,

or is this a secret, some of it is secret life? She knows pretty much all of it, except for the part of me actually meeting up with men. Yeah, that's a big part of it. Yeah, she knows that I like to think about meeting up with them and dressing and all that, but she doesn't know that I actually do dress and meet up with them. Okay, well, we'll get to that, the reasons behind that and everything.

But let's first go all the way back and get the backstory on how you even came to realize that you have the fetishes and that you're into the things that you are. Because I'm assuming all that happened way before you met your wife, right? Yes, yeah. So what was your gateway drug? Was it panty hose? Was it like panties? What was that first thing?

It was definitely panty hose. Yeah. Okay, so tell me that story. It was pretty much like all the others on here that have been on. It started very young age, pre-sexual anything. saying just, of course, I'm late 30s, so I grew up in the late 80s, early 90s when Penoos were still a thing. And I just noticed at a young age that I had some sort of attraction to them.

And then as puberty came along, I thought, wow, this really turns me on. So then it became like a sexual thing. And it's kind of weird to say, but it's pretty much like a lot of others. my mom would wear them daily for her job. So as a 11, 12 year old coming into puberty, it was really hard to see it like my mom, like walking around in panty hose. And I'm like, man, this really turns a view, but it's my mom. Yeah, how confusing.

Oh, my God. Yeah. It was like she, we had a, we just lived in a small house and she would be getting dressed for work in the morning. she would just have a braw and pantyhose on and I'm like walking around. Like this is the weirdest thing in the world for me. Yeah, I can imagine. Is that when you were really young before you even could really put it together?

Or were you older at this point? Yeah, both. Yeah. Both. I'm really young. And as I got older and puberty started hitting, you're like, man, I'm getting an erection over my mom standing here in the bathroom with panty hose and a bra on. Yeah, I feel like there's a certain time where you shouldn't maybe, well, no, But see, everyone's different.

I used to take baths with my son and be totally naked. But you get to a certain place with your child where you're like, okay, maybe you're not going to be naked in front of him. Like it's a totally different thing. But your mom was just very free and she was still walking around in front of you like that, even when you were a teenager. I wouldn't say free. Like she was never like naked. Right. But like bra and panties is kind of like I think some people wouldn't even do that at a certain age.

And I'm not saying one is right or the other. I think some people are just more open and they don't see the sexual, the bra and panties as something sexual. So it's no big deal when other people they do. I really think it's more. Gotcha. Yeah. I would say in that aspect, yes, she was more free with just.

And probably it was just like rushing around in the morning trying to get kids out of the house on the school bus. Exactly. She's not thinking it. She's turning your eyes. But she was more free with just wearing like panties, bra, whatever, just around the house, normal. that was not really a big abnormal thing for us.

Like she would come home in the evenings and take her skirt off and just be in a blouse and panty hose like doing dishes or whatever. Yeah, not realizing she's like turning you into what I call a hoser. Those are my guys who love panty hos. Let me ask you a quick question. When you were younger and you said you just realized you were fascinated by them, did it turn into something where you started to wear as well? because, listen, some hosers are into pantyhose seeing them on women.

When some, I'm assuming because you're also a cross-dresser and you do like to dress. And a lot of hosers then go so far as to wanting to put them on and they like that feeling. Did you eventually start putting them on when you realized you were into them when you were younger? Was that a part of your fattish? Yes. And that's probably right where everything started. That was around when puberty came about. I didn't really wear them before that.

once puberty came along, hormones start going crazy. I would see like a pair of my mom's panty hose in the trash can that she had used and got a run in or something. And I don't remember the first time, but eventually I was like, I want to know what these things feel like. So I put them on. Like, wow, this is amazing. I feel like I look good. I like the way it feels. And it was just game on from then on.

I became an expert in folding them like they came out of the package to put them back in her drawer. That's good. And stuff like that. So, yeah, I definitely love to wear. And that's where everything else kind of stemmed from. And did you ever get caught in those days? Or were you so good at it that you never did? I feel like I was good at it.

Maybe I wasn't as good. We were the type of people that just didn't bring stuff up like that. There was one time I was home from school by myself. I was wearing them on the, and I was on the computer. I just had like hose on. And my mom came home. I don't know if I was sick or what, like faking sick or something. And I didn't hear her pull in or nothing.

I heard the door open. I'm like, holy shit, I have got to get these things off here. So I take off running and she was like coming down the hallway. like getting ready to turn as I went right into the bathroom. So I don't know if she saw that or not, but that's probably the only time that she may have seen something, but she may have known something else was going on. Because I probably was as I thought I was.

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I don't know if she saw that or not, but that's probably the only time that she may have seen something, but she may have known something else what's going on. Because I probably was as I thought I was. Yeah, cool. So now it turns into a sexual thing after puberty, which is very similar to most hosers. You're wearing,

now are you, like, so bold to be wearing them, like, to school and stuff, or was it only at home? I never wore at school, because I was a pretty active kid, so I was always scared. I, like, rip my jeans or something like that would happen,

and it would all be over after that. I probably didn't start wearing outside of the house until I was, well, no, that's not true, because we would go, I would actually wear them when I went hunting to keep myself warm. so that kind of kept me warm and it was kind of like

a kink thing that I was wearing these things and nobody else knew that I was but I would say wearing outside publicly a lot was probably probably when I got my driver's license and I could go places alone so probably 16, 17 and you're wearing them alone

now when you start dating girls do you ask them to wear panty hose and stuff are you open about it or is this already something that you realize you should keep to yourself, like how open or not open were you about it? I didn't really ever come out to anybody except for my wife years ago. And I really only had one girlfriend experience. It was like prom or homecoming where she had panty hose on. And I was like dying inside. You only do. I was trying to contend myself with touching her and rubbing her legs

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the middle of your marriage? It was after we got married, but it was probably a year or two after we got married. Okay, that's kind of cool. And do you remember? I don't know that we should jump there. Like during, before we jump to the place, and maybe we can get there because you have so many other things going down, right, the cuckolding and the meeting with guys and stuff. But is there anything that happened that was major in between getting into puberty and starting to wear on the DL and then meeting your wife? You didn't tell any other girls. You kept it a secret. You didn't tell any other girls. You kept it a secret, right? And then should we go to the meeting of your wife or telling your wife?

Yeah, outside of just talking to people on the, because like AOL messenger was a thing, there was panty-hoes, Yahoo groups. Outside of that, I really didn't have any interaction in real life outside of the internet with panty-hose. And the only way I was going to get any sort of panty-hose action because I was too scared to tell other girls was. Once I learned about Craigslist, I was like, well, maybe I could wear for other guys. And I could have some sort of panty-ho's sexual action going on. And so that's where that started when I was 18. And I would just, yeah, I was still living home. I was actually still in high school when I was 18.

So I would just, if I had like a free time on the weekends or my parents were gone, I would make up the first time I ever did it I made a Craigslist post that I was a young cross-dresser looking for an older man. It's always had to be an older man. I've never been into guys my same age or younger. Okay. And so I had a guy that, well, I had a bunch that emailed me and one was pretty close. He was like the next town over. And I never had any of my own stuff because I,

I lived at home. I was scared to get things shipped there. My dad or mom see it. And so I took a pair of my mom's panty hose, put those on. I put like a little silk nighty that she had on under my clothes. And I went and met this guy, got in his truck. We went to some random, he took me to some random field. I took my clothes off with just, and I just had my mom's nighty and panty hose on. And that was, I gave him a blowjob. And that was the first time I'd ever done anything with anybody. And after that, I was like, this is the greatest thing in the world. Oh, my God. And you're outside in a field?

Outside? We were in his truck. Yeah. Oh, okay. But, okay, in the truck, not outside in the field. He just drove to a field. Okay, sorry. Yeah, he was like rubbing all over me because he loved the way the hose felt.

He was rubbing all over me, and it was just amazing. so that was like game one with that. Yeah, quick question because we went from wearing panty hose but you're meeting this guy and now you're bringing other articles of clothing. What age were you when you started to

dabble in the panties or the nightie or the lingerie? Because obviously you were already into it at that point when you met the guy. It probably all happened around the same time because like back then there would be like lingerie and like

Sears catalogs. Yeah. And my mom would get Victoria Secrets, books in the mail. So there was always also an attraction for lingerie in there as well. So it kind of just went hand in hand with me all about the same time. And my mom had several,

that's weird, I keep saying my mom, it's so weird to think about. But she had like lingerie and she had some, like, a couple sexy outfits that I would try on. And at that time, I could fit into her thing. So it all just worked out good. for me. Now, when did you realize that you were into older men? I guess it was just around that time where I was like, when I actually considered I might enjoy something with another guy, I never had an attraction. And outside of me being dressed, I don't have any sort of emotional or sexual

attraction outside of this, but it was always just like older men was. and I think we're probably going to go back a little bit here again there was a time I was in the arcade at the mall by myself this older man came up to me

I was probably 1415 he came up to me he was probably in his 60s he just had a t-shirt sweatpants on and clearly he had an erection under his sweatpants

and he started like I was playing playing this racing game and he like started rubbing his erect penis on my hand and I was like what is going on here like I was scared to death wow and it's like I was really scared and I didn't know what to do I panicked and then he's like rubbing it all over me and so I like took off I left I went to hit in the bathroom luckily he didn't follow me I went back out he was gone and then the next weekend. No. I don't know how long ago it was. It might have been a month or two later. I was back in there again and the same guy came in again. So I was like freaking out. And he sat down in this car game beside of me and grabbed my hand and made me touch his penis in the game. And I was like, I did the same thing. I like rubbed it for a little bit and then I left. And later that I, I, I was. I, I did. I did the same thing. I like, rubbed it for a little bit and then I left. And later that I, I, I was. I was like, I did. I did the same thing. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did I was I was I to think back to that like the next day I was like man I touched another man's penis this is it started

to turn me on and I think that that's the only thing I can tie to the older man thing yeah for sure what a fucking creep and yeah places like that are uh prime place because it's all younger guy the kids in there crazy exactly and I was to tell anybody because I knew if I told somebody I wouldn't get to go to the arcade anymore well that yeah of course oh yeah That's how a kid thinks. And you're right. Your mother would never let you go there ever again. You're right. Oh my God. That's so fucked up. That's terrible. But yeah, I think it 100% that probably does create that weird wiring in you. That makes you specifically into older men for whatever reason. What can you do? Okay. So you meet this guy. You blow him. And it's like the best thing you ever experienced. Now, do you feel like, ever in this time because I'm assuming you like women too because you get married, but you're blowing a guy in a field. Are you confused about your sexuality or not? You know, how do you feel about what you're doing? I know it's a turn-on, but like how do you, are you confused? Is it

confusing for you or or not? Yes, it was my, from probably when I started wearing tanyos, probably 11, 12, probably through my early 20s, I was like super confused. I was like, did like a wire get crossed. Was I like supposed to be a girl? Why do I have these feelings to want to wear these things? Why do I have a sexual attraction to older men? Yeah. It was very confusing. And I didn't really start to get comfortable with it until probably, I would say 23, 24 is when I finally, you learn more. You see more on. line. You see more people talking about and you're like, okay, maybe I'm not the only person in the world that this has happened to. Maybe it is okay if I like men and women and dress this way and be a

normal guy outside of this. So I think with like exposure to the internet, it really helped me a lot. Yeah, because you realize you're not alone. Exactly. Yeah, that's a big, that's a real positive thing. I think that came out of the internet before the internet, because I live during that time, You just feel like you would really just think you're so fucking special and unique, you know? In comes the internet to make you realize. No matter what you're into, there's like a million, like probably at least a million other people that are too. Like it's never, I mean, you could Google the craziest thing and you'll see a million people talking about it on Reddit as well. Absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah. So for egomaniacs, I think that's kind of depressing for the narcissist to realize. But I think for somebody that has a fetish or a kink, you know, that especially when they're younger, that it comes on them and they don't know what to do with it because there's no schooling on that. To find other people that are like-minded must be a really great feeling. It must really help for sure. Yes, absolutely.

Yeah, I get emails like that all the time about my show. People listening to the episodes on the fetish stuff all the time. Like, thanks so much. It made me feel like not so weird about myself, whatever. So now after that guy, did you just continue on to Craigslist and start like cooking up guys. And were you dating women at that time at the same time? Yes, I was doing both. I pretty much had a girlfriend all out through. Not the same girl, but there was always probably a girl involved somewhere along the line.

Uh-huh. But yeah, that's, that was when Craigslist was still pretty hot. Yeah. I'm surprised I didn't hit you up to be on my show. I was always emailing cross-chesters, pantos, that's where I had to go to work and to get people to be at my show back in the day. You were probably on there at the same time. I would always tell them that, like, I will be wearing panty hose and lingerie. Like, that's a must because I can't, I can't do it without. I'm not interested at all. Just be a normal guy and guy. I have zero interest in that.

And I had a couple people, a couple guys, older guys that were regulars. One guy lived probably six, seven miles from my house. And he had a girlfriend that lived with him, but she worked away. So while she was gone away during the week, I would go to his house and we would mess around. He actually, he was kind of wealthy. He wanted to put me on hormones to make me grow boobs. Oh, my God. I was a fan, I don't want to go down that road.

Like, I'm not, I would love to see what I look like with boobs and have them for you to play with and blah, blah, blah. But I'm not willing to transfer my body. Like, I still like to be a normal dude outside of this. so I never went down that road. He would, the last few, we met for like several years every now and then. And the last time I met,

he would get like super drunk when I would get there. It was just not fun anymore. It was just awkward with him being drunk. So I just, I quit seeing him. Now, did you ever go farther than just like blow jobs

or are you like a lot of other guys that do this kind of a thing where that's just strictly as far as you go? No, I had also experienced with anal play on myself through masturbation stuff when I was going through puberty in my teens

and I knew that was something I enjoyed I was really scared about doing that with another man being that vulnerable but I did have I've had probably I've probably had anal with three maybe four guys

who are only people like that I had been with a couple times It's because any guy knows it takes preparation to go that far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just something you could do spur of the moment. So, and it had to be somebody who would take it slow and not just, you don't just ram it in there and go to town. So, yeah, I do enjoy anal play also, yes. And being like the submissive woman in the sexual situation there.

Yeah. Okay, Kula. You're the bottom. Yes. And you're also a cuck. We're going to get there. So let's get to the point where you meet your wife. You don't tell her.

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Like, did she catch you? Did you just feel like you wanted to be open and honest? I was like, man, I have, I'm going to be with this lady the rest of my life. She's pretty open. mind that like through the role playing stuff that we had been doing at that point I was like I think she's going to be okay with it so I would buy her things and hopes that she would just wear them whatever that didn't really work so I was like hey one night I was like all these pantyhose

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And she was pretty okay with it. I think there's a lot of stranger things you could be into. So every once in a while she would wear panty hose while we had sex, and that went on for a couple years. And then it got to the point to where I couldn't. hold it in anymore. And I just broke it to her one night, like we were getting right to have sex. And I was like, hey, do you mind if I wore these instead of you? And she's, what do you mean? Like, things changed real quick. And I was like, oh, shit, this was the, this was not the best thing I should have done. And so it kind of killed the mood. We talked about things. And she's, I really,

I don't think this is the best thing ever. I don't know if I'm okay with it, but I'm not against it. Let's just ease our way into this. And eventually she was like, hey, I want you to wear panty hose while we have sex. And I was like super nervous. I was like, this ain't how I expected this to go. It was so much easier for me to wear panty hose for men because I knew it was something they wanted or they desired. I wasn't sure how this was going to go with her. And she got really turned on by it. But outside of sex, she's like totally not against it, she's just, it weirds her out a little bit. And I felt the same way when I was younger, so I know how she feels. Yeah, I've had other people say that. Listen. Yeah, her feelings are absolutely

justified. But so far she's been okay with it. And I was like, I told her that I liked to wear lingerie heels. And she's, well, do you want to be a woman? And I was like, I don't want to be a woman. Like, some guys want to get their nails done with their wife and pick out dresses. And I'm not that way. like, I want to do it purely sexual. When I'm done, I'm back to my normal self. I don't really get into makeup or wearing wigs or stuff like that. But it's mostly just like lingerie, pantos, and heels. Now, I know that you did also tell her that you do like to think about meeting up with guys.

At that time that you're laying all this stuff on her, does she question your sexuality or your sexual identity? When wonder, are you into guys, is that when that conversation comes up? up? Yeah, it wasn't all in the same day. It just kind of came out bits and pieces over the next couple weeks. She's, well, are you gay? And then she's, am I going to be enough for you? And all of this stuff, which was completely not what I expected, but what I expected. I just didn't have all the answers for. I had them. I just didn't know how to get them out of my mouth, like how to explain this to her, to where she could understand it and not be completely freaking. out.

Yeah. So eventually over the course of probably six months at all. And we would talk, she, I don't know if she did it on purpose. Maybe she did, like, during sex, like, we could get anything out of each other during sex. And he would just bring up, like, you're going to dress up in my panty hose and you're going to go meet a guy, blah, blah, blah, and have sex with him. And she would talk like that.

And I would go along with it. Then afterwards, she's, so you want to go meet with a guy while you're wearing my pantyos? and I'm like, well, I do have those thoughts that we would talk about that. And so, yes, she does know about my bisexual side and all of that. So eventually over a period of time, yes, it all came out. Now, let me ask you this, because when you were saying that, I was like, oh, wow, she's like horny for that scenario. And a lot of girls are.

A lot of girls are into guy and guy action. But then after you kept talking, I was like, oh, was that like a trap? Was she trapping you into admitting something? Is that why she brought it up? Do you think? I think it was kind of both. I think it turns her on. Uh-huh.

It's like it wasn't like a turn-offs. Like it really turns her on to talk about that. It's just the post-orgasm where she really has time to think about it. She's, I'm not so sure how I feel about this. And which is how I felt like when I was meeting the first couple guys of Craigslist, like that whole week I'm like disgusted with myself. I would purge every now and then when I had my own panty hose of laundry

I'd throw it all away and I'd say I was giving it up. Yeah, yeah, that comment. So she and she's still pretty much at that point. She does know that I do, she's not really okay with me wearing panty hose in public. As long as I'm alone, it's kind of like a don't ask, don't tell situation. If she doesn't know about it, she's fine.

She just doesn't want to know about it. Yeah, so like I'll wear under my pants the like when I'm alone like running errands or doctor's appointments or whatever. I'm just by myself. Right. Because I like I hear this from a lot of hosers and I'm wondering if it's the same for you. Like it becomes for a lot of hosers not just a sexual thing but also a comfort thing. And I because I think like when you get used to that compression on your legs and stuff it does or

and you like the feel because it's a very tactile thing. A lot of that, that's how it starts off in the beginning, right? It's just the feeling of it is like really great. Is it both of those things for you, like a sexual thing as well as like a comfort? Or are you wearing them during the day when you go out just to be fucking turned on? It is the combination of all that. Yeah. It's not these when probably 16 through 18 when I would wear in public, it was like 100% sexual.

Now, it comfort thing. Like, it comforts me to know that I'm wearing them. And it's not always such, like, I don't walk around with the erections the whole time I'm wearing them. Yeah. Then there'll be like a certain moment. I'm like, man, I'm right here with peonios and nobody knows. Or the next day I think about, man, I wore peonios to the doctor's office yesterday and the doctor had no idea. Stuff like that.

So, yeah, it is a combination of all that. Yeah, for sure. That's what I've heard from a lot of hosers. And it definitely progresses like that. in the same way that you said it. Now, so your wife knows, how long ago did you tell her? Again, like how many years has she been in the know? It's probably been three, maybe four years.

Okay, so she's still not totally fine with some things, but she's accepting pretty much. You're pretty lucky considering how much she does know and how much she does engage in it. I know that top of the mountain would be that not only is she okay with it. but she's like into it walking around with you wearing pantyhows and all the time you know I mean but most people aren't going to have that much from their girl some people do but I feel like you're better off than a lot of guys who are leading a very double life but you do have this other thing where you still continue to see guys now the cuck in you is it when you're with guys or it's as it is it when you're with your wife and you want to see your fuck other men and if so have you told her about it like where does that

come into play. Yeah, the cuff part is still basically a role play thing between me and her. Oh, okay. Yeah, she knows I'm into that and like humiliation type stuff. Um, we, I mean, we've talked about, I've thrown on that, like, I told her, I was like, I would, I would really love to see you have sex with another man, just like you run into a guy at work or somewhere and you want to go back to your car and have sex with him. I was like, you have my permission. As long as you film it or take pictures, I am completely okay with it. She's not really, she's like most women.

Like she needs, she's not just a random have sex, like a male sex brain that just goes crazy. She prefers, there needs to be some sort of connection there for her to be turned on. So, but no, we have talked about it and we roleplay it. Well, not while we're having sex. she'll talk about sleeping with such and such or you want to watch me get fucked by this person and we'll role play through that and stuff like that and that my bisexuality falls into that too

she's you want me to come home with his come in my panties so you can clean it out and stuff like that so she we get pretty dirty here in the roleplay as far as the cooking thing it's basically just a roleplay thing at this point but listen this is the type of woman that down the line You never know that she might change her mind. But I get the whole thing, and it is very common that this is the biggest issue. It's not like she's just going to go and meet a guy in a bar and go home and fuck him and be turned on by that because she's got to like sort of be into the guy.

So therein lies the problem. And that's what she thinks. Like how are we going to find a guy that I'm like sexually attracted to? It's not like women roll like men, like you said. We don't see a pair of cock and think and get wet. You know, it's just like. Exactly. Whereas for you, you see a person.

pair of tits or a nice ass or whatever you're even legs right in panty hose your heart absolutely that that's like another thing like she'll will come home and she's did you see such and such had panty hose on i'm like i could be in that room for 30 seconds and i can tell you everyone that prentz had pantyos on so of course now is she okay with you ogling other women that have them on and stuff is she cool with that yeah because we are kinks really as more of we've talked, she's also into queening. She wants to see me be with another woman. Yeah, yeah, interesting.

So she's also and she kind of, when I'm like looking at, she likes for me to check out other women, especially if we're like at a party or something and dancing. And we've been drinking and she'll be like, because she knows, I like, I like, curvier type women. Oh yeah, that's on your list. You're into the BBW thing. That is another one of your kinks or something. that you're very into, correct?

Yes. Yeah. And she'll be like, what do you think of her? We'll just, we'll talk about it. And so she likes for me to talk about, like, how I feel about the way other women look and stuff like that. So that is a turn on for her also. So we do kind of put forth on that. Yeah, you guys have a lot of freedom in your relationship.

I forget what they call that. But there is, like, not monogamish, but there's like a way of being, like, still just solo with each other and not. totally open, but still have fun doing things that maybe most vanilla couples wouldn't do, which is, I think, going out and looking at other people talking. That's the start of things. And that's like a lot more than other people get to do. But I think that that's great that she engages a lot of your kinks with you. Yeah, I'm very lucky. And I think a lot of it has to do. It's just our generation's different than. Yeah, you're younger. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit more open-minded these days and things like that. But we live in a pretty conservative area,

so we really don't share a whole lot with a lot of people, and I don't share any of my, like, my cross-dressing side outside of her and my therapist. Those are the only, and you, of course, right now are the only people that have known about that time. Yeah, that's cool. Let it, let's talk about the humiliation aspect. Like, how do you like to be humiliated? And I'm assuming, like your girl does that to you. Is she into it? Yeah, it kind of goes along with the cuck holding thing, like telling me, like, she wants to have a bigger cock, and my cock is too small for her pussy, and she doesn't get no pleasure, and she's going to go find the bigger man to satisfy her

and stuff like that while we're having sex. That's interesting. Okay, so now you're still seeing men on the side? Yes. Okay. Has this been going on since you were dating her? Is this something that you just tried to repress for a long time and remain monogamous? And then you just gave into it.

Yeah. Well, it's kind of, I took a break. Like, when we first got together, I was like, this is it. She's the one. I'm going to give this other part of me up. Yes. And I couldn't. It just, it's like a string that was constantly pulling at me.

And so I, like, made another, or no, I don't think it was a. Craigslist ad. I think I just found one of the older guys that I won was one of my regulars and I was like, hey, are you still around? blah, blah, blah. And he's like, yes, I would love to see you again. And so I went and met with him. And I was like, I just, I really don't think I can give this part of my life up. And after several meetings, I was like, I don't, I don't really feel bad about fulfilling my sexual desires. Without her knowing, it didn't really eat at me. I felt like this is completely natural. This is just, I only live once. This is something I have to do for myself. And so after that, it might be like three or four times a year because life gets busy with kids and all that stuff.

So it doesn't happen as often as it used to. Now, the first time that you did do it, because you're with this woman and you sound like a monogamous guy, did you feel guilty about it? or do you have a compartmentalized in your brain? This has nothing to do with her because she could never give me this so I'm just getting this separate. I really, I never really felt guilty about it.

I knew that deep down it was not right, but I never felt, I never felt guilty about it. I remember the first time I did, she was gone and the phone rang while we were in the man's bed having sex. It was her, and we finished up, and I called her on the way home, and I'm, like, wearing panty hose, a nighty high heels and a jacket,

drive the devil talking to her while she's gone. I don't know where she was gone for school or something. And even that turned to me on, like, I just had sex with this man, and I just had an orgasm, and now I'm, like, getting hard again, thinking about driving down the road dressed like this, just basically being just a used-up horror or something at this guy's house. Now I'm on the phone with my girlfriend. So it's like, I can't ever get the kinks to stop, but it just keeps coming and coming.

So, yeah, I never really felt guilty. Are you one of those media strategy people clicking through slides, scrolling spreadsheets? Yes? Good. This is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different, locked in, loyal, invested. They're called fans. Fans don't just listen to music. They feel seen by it, like it belongs to them. So when your brand shows up on Spotify, that's who you're talking to. And you're right next to artists like me, Lizzo. So, are you ready to talk to fans? Spotify advertising. You're among fans. yeah no unfortunately there's been some guys who have been like oh i don't even want to be completely open about that part because it would take away some of the fun because sometimes unfortunately

in that scenario where you're driving home and you just fuck this guy and you're into all that you're into and you're talking to your girl and she doesn't know that naughtiness of it adds to it and that's the unfortunate thing yes i agree and i do feel like her knowing about me meeting other men does take a lot of the naughtiness out of it for me. Yeah, isn't that interesting? Yeah, yeah. And even the leading up to it,

like getting dressed or cleaning up, shaving, putting pantingos on, putting lingerie on, and I usually, if I'm meeting them somewhere, I will wear everything except for, sometimes

I'll wear a T-shirt. Usually it's just a jacket and under that it's just lingerie panty hose and heels and just the thought of driving there is a huge turn on for me just even getting there it also depends on where they live if they have close neighbors i obviously can't walk up to their house this guy with lingerie panty hose and heels walking up to this man's house but and sometimes guys just don't care they're like yeah walk up to my house i want to see you like that and that's a huge turn on me also really like possibly a neighbor seeing me or something really and now when do you see these guys i know that you don't do it many times is it like you i'm assuming you can't sneak out at night are you doing

it during the day are you doing it on a weekend like how do you do it yeah during the day i'm i'm self-employed so i have pretty much all not a lot but i do have a couple windows throughout the week where i can kind of sneak away and get dressed up and go meet me guys and stuff like that. So that kind of gives me some freedom there being self-employed. And she works away from home. And through all of the stuff on our phone, we always know where every each other is. So it's kind of, how do you, how do you hide? No, no, no, but she knows where you are on, like, she could follow you on the app. So how, what do you do when you're at a guy's house? I really have just been lucky, I guess. And it's just, well, I could, there's like a million

things I could come up with. Sometimes it freezes up and it shows us 15 miles away from where we are and stuff like that. It's never been questioned. Okay. So up to this point, I've never had to use any excuses. So, and a lot of the times I can invite men to my house. So a lot of times it's easier for me to just do that. Wait, invite them to your house. Is that what you just said? Yes. Oh my God, that's so naughty. In your fucking house, where's your wife?

She's at work. Oh, my God. What if she's at work and she's throwing up and she realizes she has to come home and she comes up? Don't you get afraid? Oh, my God, you've got nerve. Usually it's not a really long session. I could say. If there's no, if I'm not getting fucked or anything, it's a blowjohn.

job. I can make a guy come in five minutes. Yeah, okay. I'd high five you on that, but I don't care that you can make him come up five minutes and just do it in the fucking car or someplace else. Why are you risking your whole life for being in your house? There's so many other places to go. Go to a parking lot. Everyone's, that's where people cheat. Okay, and parking lots in the car. Not in their house. These days, I would say 75% of the time, it probably isn't a parking lot somewhere.

Oh, my God, dude. Please, if I'm I'm your guy friend and I'm just going to help you out here. Okay, I don't believe in cheating. I think it's fucked up. Blah, all this stuff. We all know that. Okay, but I'm just going to tell you. Don't bring the people to your house.

That should be a zero percent time because it just takes that one time. I mean, do you love your wife? Absolutely. Yeah. You guys have a great relationship. She sounds like the perfect match for you. You are at a place with her that most hosers and cross-dressers that are listening right now are fucking would salivate to be in with their wives, right?

You got a great girl perfectly suited for you. She knows mostly everything about you and is accepting and is down. There could be a lot of great things in your future. Five years from now, you can be maybe bringing guys home for the both of you. And girls, you don't know, right? This is like you guys are going down that path. I've heard these stories. Sometimes it takes years, but it absolutely happens.

And it does start with role playing and talking it out and all the kind of stuff that you're doing now. You don't want to risk it even 25% of the time for five minutes. I don't know. I'm the type of person that believes in 1% one percent. One percent good, one percent bad. You know what I mean? I'm just like, I overanalyze and think things that I just always think the thing

that you don't think could ever happen and it was a tiny chance. Can. And it does happen. You don't want your wife coming home for some God, no reason, like for some reason that you don't realize and walking in on that. It would be horrifying to her because you know what she's going to say and what's going to be so fucked up to her is this dude told me that he's into guys we've been role playing like why didn't he like why didn't he tell me this i once dated a guy who was doing all kinds of drugs in

front of me like we would everything you could think of he was doing in front of me we were party couple you know and it was like in the whatever and i found out so many years later he was also snorting heroin and he never told me and so it's like what the fuck like why didn't you i knew everything else like why didn't you tell me that like obviously she accepts all this stuff in you, if she saw that you were keeping that on the DL, it would just be devastating to her. And very confusing, too. And that's where we want to end. So that's my little PSA to you.

Just don't bring guys home to your house ever, never. It should never be an option, not in your marital home. It's disrespectful to your wife too. Can you look at, can I ruin it for you? Can I do that to you? Can I tell you how bad it is? Can I just ruin it for you? So you never do it?

Because listen, I don't think you're intentionally thinking like it is what it is. but I'm going to try to make you think of it in the way that it is so that you never fucking do it. It is so bad and disrespectful to your wife to bring guys home and to be cheating on her in her own house. Do you understand that's her house too? Like you've got to see it that way because that's what it is and it's not cool. It's more not cool. Listen, the whole thing's not cool. And like I said, the last 10 minutes we're going to talk about how you feel about eventually letting your girl know or being sort of

being more honest about not what you've done in the past, but that maybe you want to do this in real life with her. But, you know, just don't do it at your house. Okay? Can you say okay? Okay. I mean, you're not wrong. So I'm not going to argue with that.

You don't want to lose your wife. Listen, I don't know your wife. And I don't know would she throw in the towel if she came. But that would be a real bad thing. And some people just cannot get past that betrayal because it's not so much that you're with a guy. She knows you're into guys. It's also that you're lying to her.

It's also that you're bringing it into her fucking house. That would be an added thing that I don't think a woman could get past. It's not like you got caught by the cops in a parking lot. Like you're in her house. Yeah. Okay. All right. I just want, like I said, I really wanted to drill that in you so that you never take that

chance again because I know it's not a lot, but it's stupid. All right. So let's talk about, do you ever think, or are you like these other guys that have said I don't really want her to know because it'll take away the fun. Like, I mean, is there a part of you that wishes you could tell her and that you could have a free pass and that, you know, do you ever think down the line you might bring that up and see if she's okay with it? So you could just be more open and not have to cheat? Or do you like the way it is? I really wish I could be like, hey, this is, she knows that I do want to do this.

So I have been like, hey, I would love to put on some. panty hose and lingerie and need a guy in a parking lot and suck his cock in the middle of the parking lot. She knows that. I guess it's just time to process through that and maybe if it's ever acceptable to her or whatnot. I don't know if that day will ever come. But yes, she definitely does know and it would be, I would love to have the freedom to just be like, hey, I'm going to go meet this guy today at such and such this is where I'll be something like that yeah well why haven't you because you've had such open conversations she knows that if all the stars aligned and she was okay with it on some level she knows this if she said yeah go hook up with a guy you would she knows

you're into dudes that's the hardest thing I think to get past with your partner you've already gotten to that place you guys are like really you're horny for it she's horny for it she's talking about it while you guys are fucking like why not go that extra step and say, hey, would you mind if we brought a guy? Maybe don't say you want to do it without her. Would you mind if I brought a guy in and maybe you don't have to be with him, but I could, could you say something like that? Start creating some sort of action that would so that you guys would actually take it more into reality from the fantasy, from fantasy, because that's where it is. I think eventually, I think it's just,

It might just be a little bit more time-wise. As much as she is into seeing me with, or not seeing me, wanting, fantasizing about me being with somebody else, she's also, on the other hand, very jealous person of me. So it's kind of like, she'll be like, we'll be role-playing, and I'm like, I'm like a fucking one of our friends or something like that while we're having sex. And then after we're done, she's, don't you ever do that?

or I'm going to kick you in the face or something like that. It's like complete opposite. Well, I don't know. Listen, the example you just gave right there is so dumb. Okay. Of course she might, just because she's roles like, yeah, you could, I'm into Cuck Queen and I want to see you fuck someone else. I think that doesn't mean that she wants you to fuck her best friend. Maybe we don't bring up her best friend in the role play.

No, she will bring that up. Oh, she will. Oh, she will. Yeah, I let. So how is she jealous? It's, she's complete opposite on each end. No, she's like into the humiliate.

She's into it like you are. Like, it's like the humiliation. She might have a little bit of the cuck thing in her. And a part of it is like turning that jealousy into a turn on. Absolutely. That's absolutely the way it is. And I think I do want to work towards,

I feel like she would probably be more okay with me needing other men versus other women. 100%. And that's what you're going to lead with anyway, because who cares about other women? I know guys like you. You're just interested in other men. Exactly. I'm not interested in being any other one. Exactly. Absolutely. I will have sex with any woman she wants me to. But I'm not going to actively seek that out.

You could care less if you never fucked another girl in your life, but you really like to have a guy every now and then. And that would be great to have that with her. And I think that the she's too jealous thing doesn't, doesn't, matter here because I don't think she'd be jealous about a guy and you're not bringing the girl to the table. You're bringing the guy to the table. Yes. And it's just purely sexual. There's no emotions. There's no love. It's just we're going to have sex and then I'm going to leave and that's the end of it. Yeah. I don't be until I'm ready to go again or nothing like that. Yeah. I mean, I'd start talking about it and you could say, listen, if you don't feel comfortable, like start with, Hey, would you mind if we bring a guy home and maybe you don't even have to do anything with them

and you could just watch us or and then, or you could even say, or would you be more comfortable? Like, we've been talking about this for so long that I actually kind of want to meet a guy in real life. Could I, could you give me a free pass? If not, that's totally cool. You could bring it up kind of like that. You're so right there with her that it's like ridiculous that you haven't yet because you can with her with what you've, where you've already been. you're like literally like one step away.

Absolutely. Yeah. That's that's a pretty good way to kind of like break the ice, I guess. I guess I haven't really went that farther because I know I've went a long ways with her. She's been very open and patient. I don't want to rock the boat too much and lose everything. You're not going to lose everything. You know where you're going to lose everything with a blowing guys at your house.

Okay, stop it. You're not going to lose everything if you ask her for a free pass to meet a guy. She's just going to say no. that's it like she said no to other things she's not gonna it's not gonna be a surprise to her she knows you want to hook up with a guy you're fantasizing about it you say listen I've been fantasizing about this for so long like I'm dying to actually try it that's the perfect thing that makes it look like this is something new and and if she says no and saying if you're not into it that's totally cool we could keep fantasizing about it but I'm like so fucking horny for this because of what we've been

talking about like I want to do in real life and and so phrase it that way she's not going to leave you for that give me a break yeah no I'm not worried about or leave it I just don't want to push things too far to where it's like it turns into a turn off for but I do think it is that is a good way to go about trying to progress things with me and another man I think that's a good way to make that happen try for it because I don't think it'll be a turn off to her I think she already knows that that's a thing asking for her pass to do it bring a guy home or not is not going to change a scenario when she gets horny she likes that shit sorry that ain't gonna change just like it never changed for you okay she's a little wired into it now as well okay she ain't quitting anytime soon and not for one little ask can i actually see a guy she already knows you're talking about fucking guys while you're with her come on you'll be fine it's not going to change anything you're either going to get a free pass and it's going to change your life or the better or your life is going to stay the same and you're just

never going to fuck a guy at home okay please ever never ever never ever never okay write that all okay okay awesome listen i love your story this is so interesting i have this like cross-dressing tier and hoser tier on patreon and i do so much extra content for them over there that i feel like i haven't aired a lot of cross-dressing and hoser episodes on my podcast because i'm always like just like in that other world of my patreon that this is going to be the perfect one to kick it off and this is definitely going on my podcast and It's going to be up very soon because I think it's like a really interesting episode. So stay tuned.

Send me in some picks if you want for my show because like I said, I do have that cross-dressing tier and the hoser tier. If you have any picks that you want to send, anonymous, of course. You could send me them for my Patreon. And I will let you know once it's up and once it is up, I will give you free access to my discord. My discord's great. It's a lot of interaction between people and what you could do.

There is a hoser channel and a cross-dressing channel in there. so you could hook up with like-minded people over there as well. That sounds amazing. All right. Awesome. Thanks so much for calling in. Like I said, I really love your story. I think it's super interesting and it's going to be up very soon.

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