Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1519 - Patrick & his Wife had a Threesome with their Daughters Best Friend Ashley (ep. #1517) & It Didn’t End Well

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

Patrick and his wife had a threesome with their daughter’s best friend Ashley (ep #1517) and it didn’t end well and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how him and his wife at the time wound up in a full fledged threesome with Ashley and exactly what went down, how it continued and progressed to becoming a throuple, how and why he wound up seeing Ashley solo with his wife’s permission at first and what went down between them, how it wound up that they then started hooking up behind the wife’s back, how he found out about his wife’s secret swinger past and what happened when he confronted her, how he wound up spending a while weekend with Ashley behind his wife’s back and why he didn’t feel bad about it, how Ashley had developed feelings and how that caused problems between them, how they totally got caught by the the wife was hat weekend and how she reacted, why they stayed to gather and how and why him and his wife eventually got divorced, where his relationship stands with Ashley now plus a whole lot more. GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  or Pre-order audiobook version ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beduc.at/pd2626-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized SUMMER roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://Rythm.Health/STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠for 15% OFF your first month  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://VB.Health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And it ended badly. Well, it ended badly because her and the guy started doing stuff together and you're going to get that whole story. You got it from Ashley, but now you're going to get it from the guy. Okay. Patrick is here. They recently reconnected and Ashley's like,

oh, you want him to come on and tell the story, his side of the story? And I was like, fuck yeah. So he just came on. He just called in. I got the whole story of him and his wife at the time, how they wound up hooking up with Ashley, who was just like a friend of the family. They were way older than her. She was though in her 20s and they all like hooked up. He talks about how that happened out of nowhere, what went down that first weekend. And then how it went from them hooking up together to them hooking up solo, okay? It's really interesting how that happened because the wife was kind of like pushing for it in the beginning, but then they wound up like cheating together behind the wife's back and then she caught them and you're going to hear all the details

of all of that stuff. He says at the end, this is like a Jerry Springer episode. I'm like it kind of is. I was always like, oh, it's kind of like a porn story or he's right, like a Jerry Springer story. I mean, you can't make this shit up. I thought she was making it up because it was so crazy. like something like I said you think was made up, but it's so fucking real and you're going to hear all the details from him. I love hearing the same story from different people. It's always super interesting. I do have to say that you will maybe hear some inconsistencies right from the get-go. There were things that he didn't like bring up or tell the same way that Ashley did, but because, I'm just going to tell you, because already got all of the proof, seen all of the text messages and

all of the picks and talk to Ashley on numerous occasions. I know that this whole story is legit and I just assume and believe it's because he just doesn't remember things properly. You know what I mean? This was a long time ago. His memory isn't as good as Ashley's. That makes sense to me. He's way older than her. He's a guy. She's a girl. You know, these are the things that happen. But the whole story is so great. Okay. And so I'm going to get right to and be right back on with Patrick. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast.

Hi Patrick. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? I'm doing great. Nice to have. Thank you for having me home. Thanks for coming on. You got that same accent that Ashley has.

Where the heck are you guys are from someplace where you all talk alike. I feel like anyone that lives by you knows, right? I don't like to give out information of like, you know, where people live, what they do for and this is how I keep my callers anonymous, you know, who you are and what we're going to be talking about is you are the stepdad and Ashley's story. Now, I just re-aired Ashley's episode. Her episode was episode 740. The title, and it's all you need to hear is the fucking title, because it is literally Ashley slept with her best friend's mom and stepdad and it ended badly. Okay, that's the title. I mean, if you don't get a better title than that, I don't know what the

fuck is. You know what's better than that title? The actual story. Okay. That's better than the title. It lives up to the whole the title, right? And she called in into that. And actually that episode made it into my book. So I re-aired that episode recently for people to hear because she told it. First of all, that was to promote my audiobook, which is coming out August 25th. But what she told me recently is that you were coming on to tell your side of the story. And I'm like, oh my God, this is like amazing. we're going to get the stepdad's version of this same story. And, you know, the story is you wound up fucking your stepdaughter's high school best friend. Now, it wasn't when she was in high school.

Okay, we're not talking anything like that. Okay, she was out of high school? Was she friends with your stepdaughter at that time? I don't remember. Yeah, they were friends. They all went to school together. You know, the oldest one was she actually graduated with was, you know, they were really close. And, you know, before I ever entered in the picture, it was a, you know, basically the mom brought the kid in outside and made her part of the family type deal.

Right. And Ashley was really friends. So when she was friends with the daughter, though, you weren't in the picture, right? You came in later after they graduated from high school, correct? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was already in her 20s when.

This all happened. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't have had that in my book. I wouldn't even have that on my show. I don't do anything bad like that. But anyway, so you, so do you remember the first time you met her? Because she stayed friends, even though she kind of lost touch with the daughter,

she was still friends with the mom, which was your wife at the time. And so are you currently with her still or no? No. Okay, no. Okay, we'll get to that. That ship sailed. Okay, that ship sailed. Okay.

So you wind up, though, with this woman. And in comes Ashley. Do you remember how you met her the first time? Yeah. So I think she'd come over with one of the stepdaughters. And the very first time I met her was, I think they were a senior in high school. But it was, you know, she just come to the house.

And I think they were there for probably 10 or 15 minutes. And then, you know, they went off and did their own thing. And then I didn't see her for a couple. years and I'd actually we had moved out of state for my job and my ex-wife was basically like hey guess who I've reconnected with blotty-blotty this that and the third and she's actually coming over and I'm like what you know what the fuck is going on with this and then she was like yeah she'll be here in a little bit and that was the first wind I got of it and then and then it meant it was full blown after that. like alluding to the fact that you guys all fucked already, but like when she's telling you

at this point, I'm assuming, you know, you're married to this woman and she's going to invite this young girl that was friends with her kids over that you're not thinking sex, right? I mean, why are you like, oh, I couldn't believe when she invited her over. Did she elude to the fact that she was inviting her over like wink, wink, wink? No, no. And that was the whole thing. I mean, I knew her when she was, when she was still in high school. So, you know, I never crossed my mind. Of course. I mean, I'm, you know, I was middle age and I'm like, oh, I mean, the biggest thing was she had told me like, you know, she works.

She's got clients and then, you know, the part of the country that we were in and she's like over here every couple of weeks. And I'm like, whatever, you know, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So you're not thinking anything's going now. You're just thinking this girl that you used to know that's friends with the family's coming over. Okay. So she comes over.

What goes down? I mean, how does it go from? This is this girl. that you used to know and is now just friendly with the family to you guys like hooking up. Um, boom. Let me see. Wait, let me ask you first. Wait, I remember that exact question.

Let me ask you first real quick. Before Ashley comes into the picture and you guys have a threesome with her, were you and this woman doing like threesomes and shit with girls or anything like that already? No. Now, my ex was, she was actually a swinger at one time and I didn't find that. That's one of the reason why it kind of crashed. because I didn't find that out. But her and her ex-husband used to,

they frequent that quite a bit. And that was kind of the, I kind of found a bunch of stuff. She had tried to hide. It turned into a real big shit show. But, so yeah, I mean, that was, that was actually the first time that, you know, anything like that happened between us two.

Okay, cool. So this wasn't anything, and that's why you're not thinking anything when Ashley's coming over. Right. Yeah. Okay, cool. That's good. And we'll get to the point where you wind up finding out she's a swing. I remember when Ashley found out too. So anyway, so Ashley comes over and like how does it get from like I said her coming over as a visitor to her and you and the mom all hooking up. And then we'll get specifics. So I had got home from work. And my ex said, you know, she told me all that. She's on her way. She's that and third. And I'm like, all right, whatever, okay. So I think I'm actually sitting on the couch watching TV, and she pulls in,

walked in, you know, I hadn't seen her in years. And she looked good. I ain't a lot. And so I think she comes in. She was a little nervous at first, which I think, I don't, you know, I really didn't know what the hell was going on, but she kind of seemed like a little nervous at first. And then, you know, her and my ex were, you know, they were just talking and reminiscing and all that BS.

and and then I think I don't know it's probably I think she'd been there probably 40 minutes and I think both of them because my ex was a heavy drinker also I think they had they had a glass of wine a piece but anyway is I remember just

I was sitting on the couch and how it started off was actually just she just climbed on top of me and you know pulled her top off and like, that was it, man. It was on. So.

Were you like, what the fuck? I mean, because like, that's very forward. I mean, it hurts a lot. What the fuck? But I mean, you know, you got a pretty nice set of rack in your face and you're just kind of like, holy hell. Oh, my God. But, I mean, like, because you're, she, you're, now let me ask you this. When Ashley sits on your lap, like, is your girl there or she's out, like, outside, not in the room at this?

No. She was, no. He was actually sitting on the other cows. Do you know if they, because I don't remember, and people have to listen. I just re-aired Ashley's episode. Like I said, it's also in my book and the audiobook coming out. Like, I just re-aired it Sunday. So people could hear like from her side of the things.

But do you know, like, did you ever find out whether they had planned this ahead of time or like, you know, how does this wind up that you guys are all hanging out? And then she has the okay to sit on your lap right in front of your wife? I had no idea that they had the plans already said or not I mean it was It just happens It just happened It's all news to me

Right and your wife though Is cool with it obviously She gets on your lap I mean are you like What should I do? Because your wife is there And this is kind of out of the blue Yeah

I mean You know maybe kind of nervous at first Because I'm like You know is this a setup Yeah Totally And I was like This is

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girl topless, like you said, that's super hot. I've seen pictures. We have pictures. I have pictures of Ashley over my Patreon, okay, and she's all over my desk part. Like Ashley's like a 10, right? I mean, she's hot. So here's this girl who's super hot. And your wife is like sitting right there, like giving you the okay. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. So what went down? I remember really more of instigating it and all.

Oh, she was? Yeah. I mean, she was like just ag and everything old. Your wife? Yes. Was she like given play by play? Like Ashley do this. Ashley like how was she egging it on?

No, just just I don't really know how to explain that more or less. Let me try to think back. I mean we're sitting right there. Yeah, more or less like talking and kind of just agging it on. I can't remember exact details. Right, but you knew. Yeah, right. Like you knew that she was like pushing for this to go in.

that's why you knew, like, it was a, you could go for it because your girl was right there, like you said, egging it on. So what, so do you just like start making out with Ashley and it's you and her on the couch? Yeah. That's how it started. Okay. And so tell me everything that happened, that first hookup. Well, um.

If you remember, I mean, you know, I know it's a long time ago and you had plenty of other hookups that we'll get to, but that first hookup, you know. Oh, yeah. So I remember, you know, she was sitting in my lap, populous, you know, and I'm kind of like nervous as a damn cat thinking, this is a fucking setup. What the hell is going on? So I'm like, you know what? Fuck it.

I'm going to go with it and say hi. So, I mean, we start kissing. My ex is there. I think she starts rubbing Ashley's shoulders they start making out and then it's like yeah and then it's like

shit let me see oh I think it goes it heads upstairs right to the bedroom and yeah man it just it gets fucking crazy like full on full on up there right

oh yeah I mean it was you know multiple times through the through the weekend, but it was like, that first time was insane. I was like, what in the hell? Had you ever had a threesome or had you ever had a threesome or seen two girls get it on? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I had, yeah, I was a piece of shit and watched all that. So, yeah.

It wasn't your first time. But, you know, here you are a married guy, you know, and now there's a new woman. I mean, it's probably like, you know, involved. And it's so salacious. It's got to be like super. broad for you. Yeah, I mean, it was. Well, you know, one of the other biggest

things in my head was that like, I know this girl, you know? Yeah. I mean, I knew her when she was when she was in high school, you know, and that was kind of playing through my head the whole time. Like freaking you out a little bit?

Freaking you out a little bit? Yeah. Because I'm like, man, this is some dirty old man bullshit, you know? Yeah, yeah. But I'm like, you know, she's mid-20. And it's like, you know, but still, it was just, it was always fucking on my head first. Yeah, you got like the angel and devil on your shoulders, right? Yeah. Yeah, I could imagine.

It's super hard because you're in the middle of it. Like, everyone's now naked in front of you. I mean, and everything's going down. Oh, yeah. And listen, it wasn't like, listen, you know, it wasn't like here you are this old man. Like you're saying it's old manship. But you didn't start any of this. The girls did.

You know what I mean? Like it wasn't like you going after her or anything like that. You know what I mean? You were just innocently there watching TV and these aggressive women, you know, got you involved. I mean, yeah, but you know, the way that my mind works is, like I said, is it's a setup, you know. Of course, of course. I don't trust anybody.

Yeah, I get it. I get it. But you wind up going because you can't help yourself, right? Like upstairs and you guys like fuck all weekend. Yeah, I was just like, fuck it. I'm just going to go. with it. Right. And so everything went down, everyone screwed everyone, like everything happens. Oh, yeah. It was a fuck fast. I mean, it was pretty crazy. So, um, definitely wild.

Right. That's all I will say. I mean, it was, it was craziest. Four more than I expected to be, because like I said, I mean, um, you know, you don't really know if they're just going to be a pill of princes or, you know, they're really going to just get after it. And, um, I mean, Yeah, actually pretty good after it. Right, like they, right. They were like actually really good with each other's what you're saying. Like they performed well. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Okay, so I mean, listen, you didn't know at that time like your girl was a swinger. You know what I mean? And so she had experience with this. You just had no idea of it at this point. So, okay, so you spend the whole weekend together. Were there ever any kind of conversations about like what the fuck's going on here? Or was it just like, you know, sex?

Yeah. I mean, there was, I mean, we, you know, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't all fucking. I mean, we did a lot, we did a lot of talking and shit. And, um, I mean, it was like, I think it was coming up, you know, it was just going to be a regular thing. You know, this, that and the third. Um, blah, blah, blah. And I mean, yeah, it was a lot. And then, you know, on their side, it was a lot of reminiscing.

Like, you know, I've known you since you was blah to blah. And I can't believe that you're in my house and we just did this. and I'm just like shit. Right. She's like rubbing it in. Like the stuff that you felt like not right about. Okay, cool. So you have this whole weekend and everything.

And when the conversation did come up about like, is this going to be a regular thing? Like what was discussed? Like what was the answer to that question? Well, so actually, you know, like I said, she had a job in the area that we, well, she had clients in the area that we were at.

And so she was she was visiting every couple weeks or so. And so that was discussed like, hey, you know, when I'm here, you know, instead of me getting my hotel room and all that, I'll just come here and stay. And, you know, it'll just turn into whatever. So, yeah, that was all discussed. Okay. So you're going to be like in a thruple at this point. That's what I would call it.

Yeah, basically. Yeah. All right. So is that what happened? She winds up coming back on the weekends and you all continue to like fuck each other? Yeah, at first. And, you know, then it just kind of turned into, you know, the song and dance that happens. I mean, a good thing goes away, but then it kind of turns into one stepping out, you know.

Yeah, that's where we're going to go, okay, because that's where the ended, ended badly starts, right? in her episode. Okay. So you guys are continuing to see each other, right? Everyone's screwing everybody. It's all good, right? How does it turn to be that you wind up with Ashley Solo? I mean, is it, is that okay in the beginning? I don't know. Well, in fact, my ex actually pushed it. Right. That's what I think I remember. Right. What happened? Yeah, she wanted me, she wanted me to take her to dinner. So I had to drive a state away to take her to dinner and she was like you know um just take her to dinner blah blah you know why do you think she wanted you to take her to dinner i have i have no idea even today if i think back i have no idea yeah i mean to me if anything's a trap that's the trap

yeah right and i keep looking back and i'm like i really don't understand why yeah well were you supposed to take her to do sorry i interrupted but we're supposed to take her to do Sorry, I interrupted it, but were you supposed to take her to dinner and then bring her home and you were all going to fuck her? Like, was that the deal? No. No, no, because she wasn't, she wasn't coming back. Oh, so really? Just take her to dinner.

Have fun. Yeah. Like I said, I drove, you know, I drove back to the next day to take her to dinner. Okay. And, you know, I think, I don't know, we spent, oh, a couple hours, a couple hours of eating. we didn't do anything We just talked And then I left

And I went back home And she went wherever Yeah Okay So you eventually though Continue on Right Like what happened

So you go home Does your wife like Want to know If you guys hooked up When you saw each other or anything Did you wind up hooking up that night After dinner? No

No again But she asked me I mean I had talked to her My ex I don't know I mean, we were texting back and forth. Did you have to be okay to hook up with her?

Or was it like, no, just take her to dinner? Was that ever discussed? Yeah, she, I don't know. She told me, I mean, she was like, my ex was like, look, I don't care what happens as long as you keep me in a loop. I don't care. Wow. Okay.

So that's where that went. But no, we didn't. And you didn't even do anything, but you were allowed to, but you didn't, which is so interesting. Okay. So then what happens? I got home. And then I don't know. I think we bang one out.

And then I get and go to work the next day. And I think it was like a week or so before she come back. But it was more or less on our terms in. Let me try to think. I think my ex was getting pissed about something. And I can't remember. I think it was because, oh, because we had a group chat. Okay.

It was all three of us in a group chat. Right. And then I actually started texting me out of the chat. And which my ex was like, look, that shit's not cool. Which, yeah, I get it. I understand that. And she's like, that shit's not cool because I don't know what you're talking about. This is going to go forward.

I got to have trust and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, all right. So she kind of got really, really pissy about it, which I guess she had a right to do. But she's just the way she was was. She kind of handled it the wrong way. I mean, like, really just being a bitch about shit. And so I was more or less like, you know what, hell with this. I think we met, me and Ashley met again for dinner.

And which, you know, I told my ex, I was like, look, we're going back at the dinner and all this. And she was like, that's fine, whatever. And then it just kind of leaked from there and just me and Ashley. Okay, and what do you And what do you does that mean You and Ashley what? In the back of a fucking car I mean, I kind of know

I mean, you know Well, like I said You know, with my ex I had just found out That she was in all You know She was very, very, very attractive I'm not a lot

I mean she was My ex was very very very attractive And You know, she was the stiletto fake boobs Stiletto wearing Dress to the nine you know pink and white nail

and I mean like you know she was she was super hot she was hot yeah yeah and uh you know I found out that she was you know doing all this swing shit and um you know all this crap and uh and that she was still talking

to her best friend which they used to swing together and they were still fucking talking so it was kind of more or less like and then I've got Ashley feet me shit, you know, from when they were growing up, what all went and took place. And I was just like, you know, what the

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And then it's like a hidden fucking folder. And I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm like, oh. And she had, oh, yeah, they had shared videos and all this fucking shit. And I found it and I confronted her when she deleted it. Well, she said she deleted it. Well, rock box, you know, when it was a big thing. I know.

For some reason or another. I had Dropbox also Well, she had shared, I can't remember what it was, she shared with me, the file or something. Well, anyway, she shared the wrong shit, and she shared me the fucking file, but she had all the shit she said I deleted, she had put in a fucking Dropbox file

and she accidentally sent it attacked to that other file she sent. Oh, fuck. She probably did think she deleted it. That must have been a one big, fat accident. I'm sure she thought she deleted it and didn't realize it was still there. Oh, my God.

No, no. The pictures that were, the Pinterest and video was not in a Dropbox. Oh. The ones I found were saved on the computer. Oh, okay. She said, well, I'm deleting them. I don't need them. I don't know why I kept them.

My ex put them on my computer, which I knew was complete fucking bullshit. But, so they got deleted from the computer, and they got moved into Dropbox to save again after the fact. So she fucking lied about a bunch of shit. Yeah. Well, can I ask you a question? Just like, honestly. And I'm just playing devil's advocate here, right? Like this is stuff that she did way before you.

She wasn't doing this behind your back. Like, why did you care that, uh, whether she had those pictures, save them and they were there? Like, what, what was it about her past that really bothered you? Like that what, that you wanted all that stuff like deleted? Was it because she said she was going to do it and she didn't? Because why would you care? Yes.

I mean, it has nothing to do with you. I mean, everybody, everybody has skeletons, you know? Yes. And that wasn't the problem. I mean, what she did prior to me. you know, I'm not going to hold against. But I didn't know it at first. It was kind of more or less I found out about it.

So it was kind of a, you know, sticker shock. And then I find the shit. And she's like, I'm sorry, I'll delete it. My ex put that on there. And I forgot it. I'm like, how the fuck do you forget about it? And then when she's like, I'm deleting it and then she deletes it. And then a couple months later.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. I find it on a damn fucking drop box. And I'm like, bitch, you didn't delete it. You just fucking saved it against somewhere else. before they got to fuck. So I'm like, why are you interested in all that shit? I know.

You take a dog from water, go fucking back. I'm like, yeah. So like I said, and listen, I should have known the end. Should have known them

because it turned right back into being a common street whore. So I get it. I get. Okay, enough with the core thing. But wait a second. You know,

listen, I would, I would get that like, here you are, her husband at this point. You never knew about this. And then you stumble upon seeing her like fucking other guys.

Like, that's not a good feeling. right like that was probably what was very disturbing about that not that she like did that but that you like couldn't unsee it right like i would assume maybe that's what it's about right like you're seeing her because like listen she didn't do anything wrong at that point really she's allowed to be a fucking swinger before you met her you were doing threesome's and shit like you said you were a dog right so it doesn't really she didn't do anything wrong but i would assume that it's just not something you want to see that you didn't know about and then now like i said you can't unsee it right that's probably

devastating. Yeah, that and the point that she lied saying she deleted it. Oh my gosh. And, you know, like I said, it was bullshit when she tells me she's like, you know, my ex put it on there, which if you knew how my ex was, her passwords are not, like, I was married to the woman for over 10 years and I never knew one single password she had. She just didn't give shit out. Right. So yeah, I got it. And the reason why is because her job, I mean, I'm not, I'm going to detail what she did, but let's just say HIPAA, she couldn't have her computer just open. Yeah. And she owned her own company. So, yeah, so I knew it was complete total garbage when she's like, oh, my ex put them on there with it. Okay. You know, I knew that was bullshit. So, and then the fact that she says I deleted them and then come to find out months later,

they're sitting in a fucking drop box. And she didn't. So I'm just like, what the fuck are you hanging on to this bullshit for? Yeah, I get it. She probably just, you know, you like those videos. Okay, so let's get to the point where now you start stepping out. little bit more. You know what I mean? Like now you're doing stuff without the like her knowledge, right? What starts happening between you and Ashley? Well, like I said, I took, I took my ex like I was,

I was done with it really. You know, I took my ex back to her mother's house and a couple of states away, dropped her ass off and then I come back through and picked up Ashley and brought her back to my house and we spent the weekend together but that whole weekend turned into the fucking shit shit show a complete utter fucking shit show because and the thing about it is is actually wouldn't have been so i don't really know what the hell i could sit there and say i think she was more it was like she was jealous of my ex because i was still with her i don't really know but if she would have behaved better i hate and that's a wrong word to say then you know things probably could escalated even better, but the way that she was acting was like a fucking high school girl

just pissed off silent treatment. I'm like, fuck this, man. I don't need to deal with this bullshit. What was she mad at? What happens? Because, I think because I wouldn't chase her. Because I wouldn't. Yeah, but let me ask you this, because you're jumping to this weekend where things go bad,

But like there had to been more stuff going on secretly between the two of you that before she starts acting crazy about you. Like were you guys like blowing each other's phone up now, not on group and seeing each other secretly and all that kind of stuff before this weekend? Well, we weren't seeing each other secretly because she lived, you know, a couple states away. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, we were talking. Uh-huh. And I'll admit that. I mean, yeah, we were talking off the group chat a lot.

And, I mean, things were escalating. in the sense that you're both like acting like you have feelings for each other because there has to be something more that's happening here for her to like act that way and stuff like that you know you might be revenge fucking i don't know but she's like a young girl you know feelings were escalating so yeah i would say say that and then you know the the information i found out with my ex was just you know that was fuck that wasn't in gasoline that was down nitro on the fire and then i know i've got ashley in my ear on one tie telling me, you know, everything that was

going on when they were growing up together and it was just like, overwhelming. I'm a typical fucking man so I jumped the gun and was like, fuck it. I'm out and so like I said, I brought her to the house that weekend and like I said, it turned into a utter

fucking shit show. I couldn't wait to get her fucking get rid of her, put it that way. Is this the time that the way? Okay, we're going to get to this, but wait, is this the time where your wife finds out because of the, is this that time or no. Yes.

Okay. No, no, I know. We're going to get to it. I want all the specifics of this time. Okay, real quick, though. I do remember Ashley talking about some sort of like fucking going on in a car. Yeah, the camera, we'll get to that.

That's this weekend. But, like, wasn't there, like, sex in the car? Like, haven't you guys hooked up before? Didn't you bring her flowers one time? That was the first time. That you took her to dinner? Yes. Yeah.

Oh, my God. You brought her flowers? yeah why i mean i'm a gentleman man i'm gonna take her out oh my god right so it was like a date yeah this is how why she's calling for you yeah i mean yeah i'm not a lot about that yeah what is i mean oh my god i have cool permission you do that so yeah um so you you did woo her your way at that time okay so had you fucked her like since you you and your wife fucked her all together secretly before this weekend that goes bad? Had you and her hooked up secretly behind your wife's back?

You did, right? Yes, yes. So she was actually a staying at a hotel and stayed away. And I think I drove over there and we hooked up then. But I ended up coming back. I ended up coming back home. So, yeah. Right.

So you're here, you're kind of hooking up and everything. I'm just trying to like paint the picture of why like all of a sudden, Ashley would be acting like crazy. You know what I mean? It's not like you go from like one dinner to her acting nuts out of nowhere. Like there is a lot of talking. There's the flowers. There's this hookup and you're doing stuff secretly.

And you both know that now you're doing this secretly behind your girls back, right? You're both in the know and like we're cheating and we're cool with it. Both of you. Yeah, I kind of think it was the dick, though. I mean, because she, she loved it. So I think that's one of the reason why she was ex. Oh, my God. You have a big dick?

Is that what it is? Yes. That's there. Yeah, I think she told us. Okay, so you wind up. So, okay, so now you have this weekend. Okay, your girl, you kicked your wife out of the house, right? And you bring Ashley back.

Now you're really revenge fucking her, right? Because you're so pissed off at your ex-wife. Ashley comes over and she's set to like stay the whole weekend right? Yeah right and she knows you're cheating on his wife and she's like falling for you so she's like she wants you to like

she wants to be with you now more than just sucks yeah yeah and it could have turned into that but interesting like I said the whole attitude the damn high school bullshit that whole fucking weekend just I mean it turned me on so

fucking bad to where I could She's going to fucking kill me, but I couldn't fucking wait to get rid of her. I mean, it was like, God damn, man. That's the end of the story. Start with like, she comes over your house and what goes down? Does the nonsense start the minute she gets her? Do you fuck all weekend? And then the nonsense starts.

Where does it come? Where does the nonsense start? I think we, I mean, we may have hooked up twice and that was about it because, I mean, I was just complete fucking. disgusted with the way that her attitude was. I know, but you have to explain what she started to do, okay? Oh, just being a bitch, man. About what?

Just fuck everything. I mean, like her, like, you know, her fucking feelings were hurt, but I was still fucking married. And I'm like, you knew the fucking, you know the situation. And like, you want me to just up and drop ends on everything and be with you, but here you are acting like a fucking kid. I'm like, no. That's not going to fucking happen.

She will listen. Early 20s and 20s is a kid. If you remember yourself at 20s, come on. I mean, you're not like, you know, so I get it. But let me out. And you're way older than her. Yeah, but I will give her, you know, I'm not going to give you a fucking cliche, but I mean, even in her early 20s, I mean, just from her upbringing, she was, she had more

shit going for her mentally, like, attitude. wise. Right. Then most, most, I mean, she was very mature for her age. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I get it for certain reasons. But at the end of the day, she's still though emotionally, right? Emotionally when it comes to men, still a very young girl. You know, not know. And she's navigating something that is really like, you know, hard to navigate because she's falling for a guy who's like fucking married, you know. Well, I don't know why she's so whipped to you so quickly, but she is. And your wife's not. there. So why is she upset about your wife? Because you've kicked your wife out of the house. Like what more was she looking for at that point? Exactly. And that was that's what I can't answer.

Because I have no idea why it turned into what it fucking turned into. Right. I mean, because like I said, you know, I kicked my wife out basically. You know, I take, I spend money on her. I take her all these places, you know, around where I'm living. Uh, even drive hours to take her to this other place. And like, I don't know, man. I mean, it just turned into, a complete utter fucking shit show like I don't even I mean it was like

it wanted to argue the whole damn time and I'm like fuck this man I don't I don't do drama like that and that's just what it turned into

so like I said by Sunday I was like look you gotta go I'm like I can't deal with this shit no more

but didn't your wife start calling I mean isn't this the time yeah she called well so I have you know cameras

everywhere. And my dumb ass, I don't know how I did it. Don't know how I didn't do it. But I thought I cut all my cameras off. Well, somehow or another, I didn't cut, all around my perimeter, I have one,

but the main one on the front door, I went to cut off, but I cut the rear door off and accidentally left the front door on. So she called her. Yeah, she called us going in, and out. And, you know, she saved it. She won't say anything. Well, then all of a sudden,

I mean, my ex was very smart. I ain't a lie. I mean, she was very, very smart. But she just called and like, hey, blah, blah. Like, nothing. I'm going on. And, like, she's like, one with you FaceTime me, and I'm like, oh, fuck. You know, I'm busted. So I'm actually like, I'm like, hey, hide behind this

big ass fucking mirror and all this shit. And what called it was is because she left her fucking eye watch on the fucking in-table. And that's where I got fucking busted, busted. The camera got me, but

when my ex come back home, I mean, it was a dead fucking giveaway because she knew what her eyewatch was and she walked in the house and was there probably 30 minutes and she was like, what the fuck is this? And I'm like, oh. Wait, I don't know what the eye, how did the eye watch give you away? What was going on

with the eyewatch? Because she knew it was Ashley's, because it had a certain Oh, it was Ashley left the eye rod. Oh my man. Yeah, it had a certain it had a certain friend on the band and like, you know. Oh my God. Well, listen, now I know, listen, this is why, though, Ashley's going crazy. No, no, no, no, but this is why Ashley's going crazy.

We're going to get it right back to your wife. But like, this is why Ashley's going crazy because she's there with you. You're taking into all these places. You're whining and dining her. She thinks she's having like a relationship with you. And your ex-wife is calling and you guys are still talking, okay? Because she's asking to FaceTime and all this shit. So that's probably what she was free.

freaking out about, right? You telling her to hide, I got to talk to my wife, right? Like, isn't that what was causing the problems? No, the problem started way before then. I mean, the problem started all like the day that I picked her up and brought her at the house. It was like, I mean, it wasn't two hours into the trip and I was already like, fuck. I had fucked up. Okay. All right. Let's get back to the wife. So the wife comes home. Now, why is she coming back home? Did you guys make up? Or did she know you had cheated and she kept it to herself? Like, because at this point, she sees her. She knew I did. Yeah. She knew I did. She kept it to herself.

But, yeah, I mean, it was, you know, we talked and, you know, we were married, yes. And, you know, I'd done dirty, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, we kind of made amends. And she come back home and then she found that. And she was like, I already knew. And I was like, what are you talking about? And that's when she pulls out the fucking videos of the cameras. And I'm just like, fuck.

I'm like, how in the hell can I be so damn dumb, man? So, yeah. And then we kind of made amends. And then it was, of course, you know, the flip, the table totally flipped, because then it was, you know, fuck that bitch. She ain't never allowed back in this house. And I don't want to have nothing to do with her. And this, that, and the third.

And, I mean, it was, it would be an ordeal. But, you know, me and Ashley, we still kind of talked, you know, here and there. And then I think it just, like, it kind of peered out. It just kind of started, it just, like, went away because, you know, she was asking for something that I couldn't give her at the time. time, you know, because I was in love with my ex, very, very much in love with her. And, you know, I couldn't give Ashley what she needed and what she wanted at the time. Yeah.

And, you know, so, yeah, it did. It turned into a big-ass crummer of shit show. So. But Ashley eventually, like, disappeared. Did you ever fuck her again after that and after you got busted? Um, yeah, I think probably twice since then. Okay. So, I mean, we would just hook up, like, and then she'd be gone. You know, like, it was more or less like a booty combo sides, I hate to say.

But, yeah, I mean, I would, she was, like, I wouldn't hear from her for months, months. And just out of the blue, like, hey, what are you doing? Yeah, I already. You know, and I'm like, well, I'm here, blah, blah, and then, like, I would meet her, and then it would be like, and I'd go back home. And then, you know, I wouldn't hear from her again for a year, a year and a half. And it would be, hey, what are you doing? And I already knew then.

So, yeah, I mean, that's just what it turned into. But. So how long did you stay married? It's okay. How long did you stay married to that woman once she took you back? And, like, you know, she obviously stayed. She didn't dump you because of the cheating. She stayed with you, right?

How long did you guys last after that? Well, we stayed together for 10 years. And then we separated. So. Real quick question, though, with your ex-wife, you know, you stayed with her after Ashley. Did you ever wind of cheating on her again? No, and that's the thing.

Like, I never, never. I mean, I only stepped out on her with Ashley. That's the whole thing. Right. And she always, I mean, I guess a woman's intuition, you know, she thought that if I could do that, then I was out slinging dick to everything. But no, man.

I mean, yeah, I'm a flirt. I'm not going to lie. But did I step out? No, I didn't. Right. And she accused me of all that all the time. And I'm like, no, I did. I mean, yeah, I talked to some girls.

I admit that. I was wrong in that. But, you know, the way that I kind of looked at my ex is, and I'm a piece of shit for this, I will say it. If you ever look at the pattern, it was because when everything was great, it was great. But when I started getting just in the bullshit of how a relationship would go, it's like I was missing something. So I would talk to somebody. But that's all I did was talk, which is right by no means, no means at all. And, you know, of course, she might find out or whatnot, and then it would stop and everything would pick back up where it was supposed to be going.

But, you know, me and my ex, we had had after Ashley was probably three or four encounters with different women. I mean, I remember even going to a restaurant, and my ex would even write her phone number down on receipts to hand it to a waitress that she thought was hot. I mean, I mean, like, that's how it was just like that. Yeah. You know, I mean, it was just like that. And then, you know, I was in a big bot club. So that escalated shit tremendously because there was always ass around. So, I mean, you know, it was the pick of the litter on that.

And so, yeah. So you guys continued with your threesome with women. Yeah. So it was like, you know, and I felt, and how can I put it? I'm wrong. I know I am looking back. But I felt like, well, you know, my ex is not really giving a shit. She's like, want me to fuck all these women in front of her so she can watch.

What is it hurting if I talk to somebody? You know what I mean? Which I know it's wrong, but that's how I felt. And looking back, I wish I'd have done things different. But no, I never stepped out on her other than unless she knew about it, but she was there. Right. So I never. What's wrong is that you literally said the words came out of your mouth that, you know,

when it, when the marriage was just regular and stuff, like something was missing. and that's why you would talk to someone. And that's why people don't like shit like that. Because it does mean something, right? Like you were like not getting something at home. Like you weren't that happy. That's a sign of that, right? So it's not like innocent.

And that's going to upset a partner. Like, why are you doing that? Like, what does that mean? You know, that's what the partner feels. It makes the partner feel very insecure because they know that's why you're, you know, on some level, you know, something must be wrong here because why the fuck are you going and talking to that woman? and you admitted something was wrong.

So it wasn't like innocent. It was a symptom of a problem that you guys were having in your relationship and she was picking up on it. And of course, that's going to make her upset. Plus, you had cheated on her and she doesn't trust you. And whenever you catch somebody doing something deceitful, it's hard to gain trust back, right? That takes a while. Yeah. And so, you know, another thing was we, I mean, I relate.

When we were great, we were great. I relate to shit was awesome. but she had a she couldn't be grounded put it that way like she had a she was a flight risk and I think the whole

yeah the whole time we were together she left me seven times right right okay she was one of those right yeah and like but it was over bullshit like you know if I was beating on a woman or something

yeah I could see that but I remember the fucking complete lies man like I remember being at work one day and like she's carrying on a whole conversation with me like nobody's busy even asking me what I want for fucking dinner you know and here I am like

15 hours away from home like I didn't know anybody I get home and like because we lived in a luxury apartment so I didn't really look for a car but I pull in I walk inside and like she's not there and I'm like what the fuck

I try to call her and like her phone goes straight to voice man, I'm like, well, this is fucking odd. So I'm like losing my shit. Because she was the type of woman that was like, like I said, she was, she was gorgeous. But she wouldn't look at her surroundings. Like she had a convertible Mercedes and she would sit in a parking lot

and like with the top down and wouldn't pay attention to anything. I mean, like people could just grab her ass, you know, and where we lived at in the state, that state that we lived in, you know, it was 45 minutes either direction. know you're on the fucking coast. So she could have been throwing a fucking box and been across the seat. I would have never known. So, you know, it wasn't the, when she did that, yeah, it fucking, it freaked me the hell out

because I'm like, where the fuck happened to her? You know, and then my boss, which we were all good friends. He was like, you know, this isn't like her. There's something going on. You need a reporter missing, blah, blah, blah. There. The cops went. Where was she?

Where was she? Oh, she was at her fucking swing her friend's house. So, yeah, three states away. fucking about 20 hours from me. But what had happened was, like I said, she lied to me all day. They even asked me to walk for once for dinner. And then I get home and I can't fucking,

I can't find her if I thought and going to voicemail and all of a sudden I get a fucking text, like a fucking book, telling me that the car that I just bought her is sitting in C-18 at the fucking airport that she caught a plane and she flew up to there, blah, all this and that.

So yeah, man, I mean, I'm talking, it fucked me up mentally with all that shit. Every single fucking, and I don't know why I fucking stayed with her. Everybody's like, it's your fault. I'm like, I live here. She left me seven fucking time. It was my fault that I stayed. But every time I kept thinking that she would change and she would come back and it would be

normal and it would be great. It'd be fucking awesome for six months to a year. And then, boop, she'd be fucking gone to the wind blew. Yeah. I mean, you say you don't do drama, but you kind of do because, like, she sounds very, like, She sounds full of drama. She's a fucking see you next Tuesday, man. Yeah, there you got.

Well, what's going on with you? So after you left her, did you ever get remarried or anything? Or have you been single ever since? No, I've been single ever since. Okay, cool. And you reconnected with Ashley, obviously, because she's the one that told you to call in. You guys are friends now? Are you hooking up?

Like, what's your deal? You know, it's uncomplicated, complicated. I don't know what the hell it is. I don't even know, man. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it's just like we told. I mean, we're friends. I mean, when I hear from her,

I mean, like, I can go I can go too much and not hear anything from her and then all of a sudden it's like, hey, and then we'll talk for maybe, I don't know, five or six text messages it changes and then it's like,

do you sleep together now though? Do you what now? Do you guys fuck now? No, I haven't seen her in years. Okay, so you're just talking on the phone and stuff or like that. That's how you reconnect.

You're just like friends now. Yeah, basically. Yeah. Okay, cool. Do you have any girls in the whole? But, you know, the whole shit, this whole disappearing act, you know, all it does is just throw me back mentally to where my ex did. And it's like, it's a fucking turn off.

Yeah, Ashley, what are you fucking doing? Why do you keep disappearing? I have to question her about that. I didn't know if she was going to be on this call yet, but at least you guys reconnected. It sounds like you guys did have obviously like feelings for each other, considering you keep always coming back to each other, even if it's just as friends, right? like it has remained that you guys still talk to this day right and this is like a lot of years after what happened right with the wife yeah yeah right yeah i mean we're so we're so tall i actually yeah

i haven't seen her in years and and it might go two or three months and i'm never heard from her right and then like it'll be out of the blue but if you want to say to ashley yeah i get it but if you do you want to tell ashley to like fucking if she's going to come around to just like stay around and not like disappear is that bother you obviously right yeah i mean She's listening to this. She's listening to this episode. I'm getting older. I'm getting older and like all of us are.

And, you know, I'm just, if she's going to come around, stay around. If not, then cut bait and go, man. I mean, that's just how I am. Hear that, Ashley? So listen, she's going to be listening to this episode, okay, because she's setting you down my way for this. This episode is coming up like this week, okay? It's going up ASAP, okay, because this is great.

It's following Ashley's redo where people got to hear her episode and now they're going to hear your episode. but Ashley, if you're listening, fucking stay in touch with your friends. Don't disappear. Nobody likes that. I fucking hate that shit too. It's so annoying. You know what I mean? What is that about Ashley? Like, get it together.

So, but, you know, listen, I'm glad that she got you to call into the show. It's so interesting to hear the same story from somebody else's perspective. It's always a totally different story. And so thanks so much for calling in Patrick. This is super interesting. Well, thank you for having me on. Like I said, I'm not a ghost because I think she had mentioned one time that it was all BS and all that.

And I'm like, no, no, no, I. It's a Jerry Springer fucking episode. Totally. Totally. Like when she first called in, that's my whole spiel about her show. I made her send in proof. I didn't fucking believe her. Because it really is like straight up porn, you know what I mean?

Or a Jerry Springer episode. You're right. It really is that extreme. You know what I mean? Totally. Thanks for giving me the part two. This was awesome. Thanks so much, Patrick, for calling in.

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