Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 154 - Georgia Peach Loves Being an Escort

Episode Date: November 28, 2016

Georgia Peach became an escort shortly after she moved from her hometown and she hasn't looked back. How did she become and escort? Why did she become an escort? Has she been enjoying herself? Tune in to find out plus hear all about her most recent polyamorous relationship, her search for a permanent sugar daddy, her new daddy/daughter fetish and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And I think Georgia Peach might be her escort name too. Like, I don't, I think. I'm not sure. But I think she mentioned something like that. But this is a girl who is an escort, has been an escort for a little while. She's 27 years old. And she talks all about being an escort. She talks how she got into it, why she got into it,

what her specific experiences have been like. She does other things too. She's also into polyamory. She's had some relationships when we talk about that. She's super progressive and open-minded when it comes to both sex and relationships. And we discuss all of that. So it's really an interesting podcast. I don't want to give up too much information on the specifics of stuff because it's

like so interesting how all of the stuff has played out in her life. So I'm just going to get right back on with Georgia Peach and let you listen. for yourself. I'll be right back on. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name.

And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Hey, Georgia Pete, you're on the phone with Kathy. Welcome to a strictly known with podcast. How are you? Thanks. I'm good. How are you? I'm good.

I love your name. I like when people are creative with their names when they call in. So a little backstory on you. Like, I got an email from you. I didn't find you on Craigslist, though you do dabble on Craigslist, right? You wrote in to the show because you're a listener and you were like, oh, I kind of like, on the side, right? Like, why don't you just explain your deal really quick and just give like the overview

that you gave me in the email? Okay. So I live in California, but I just, I've moved around a little bit. So I'm from the Midwest, but since I moved two years ago, I, you know, I work a day job. I kind of have like that normal. I work from home, but I work, you know, a very boring job. I'm, you know, totally buttoned up. professional

weight 20s but as soon as I moved the first time I just kind of went out the rails and started doing whatever I wanted and I started escorting I think that was the first thing I did but wait wait wait but how does it go hold on one second because like how old I mean that's like a big jump right

I know from like I was like this small town girl like where did you move from and how old were you when you made that first move and you went totally crazy Okay, so I'm from, well, I won't say the state, but I'm from Midwest. So I moved when I was, I think, 25. Okay, so you're 25. Now, before you were 25, did you, like, were you kind of promiscuous and, like, open sexually, like, when did you lose your virginity?

Like, what was your history, like, before you turned 25 and became an escort? Oh, good question. So, my background, so I didn't, I did not grow up in a small town. I grew up like in a pretty busy metro area of Australia. I don't know why. You know, it's your name. It's your fake name that's throwing me. I expected an accent, you know.

I went. No, it's just because I always wanted to be Southern. So that's what I went by when I started escorting. So, so I love my virginity age 18. So I did grow up in like a really conservative Christian home and I went to a Christian school. But I was always like kind of that, you know, I had the room. all year spirit forever and I never really you know I kind of grew out of that really quick and went my own way a little bit um but you know I definitely had like I had a serious boyfriend

um up your college and and all of that and was still kind of following that trajectory that my parents wanted for me um but it just didn't work for me so when I broke up with that like long-term serious boyfriend after college that's when I started to like you know sleep around I definitely like my number went up quite a bit that summer, but, you know, nothing crazy. You know, I just go on a lot of dates and I just dated a lot, but I never did anything like wild until. But like, were you the type of person? And I think this was very common nowadays where like you were dating going on a lot

of dates. Like did they wind up with you like sleeping with the guy on like the first or second time you were with him or no? Not really. Like I think. I usually would, you know, there's definitely a couple of like one-night stand that were just people had meet at the bar or whatever and go home and bring home. But that happened a couple of times.

But if I was actually dating, like I don't sleep with people right away. I would take, you know, three or four days, something like that. Okay, cool. So you were still kind of like, like the average woman is nowadays. I mean, it wasn't, right? So what, how did you take that leave? So like you said that when you moved, you kind of like went off the rails. Is something happened?

or was it because you were like far away from your family and you were holding back all these years? Like how did like what was that thing that happened inside your brain that was like, oh, I'm going to try becoming an escort. Right. I think for sure, you know, being from where I was, I, it was kind of, you know, it was the type of city where people tend to stick around. So, you know, I would go out on the weekends and I would see people that I went to high school with. Even though it's a fairly big city, I would just keep running into all these people. So I always was, and, you know, a lot of those people, like I said, are very conservative and judgmental. So I could never, I don't think I could ever really be my, I couldn't really let my freak that fly fly.

Right. You know, Joe. So, yeah, I think moving, I was like, okay, no one knows me here. I can do whatever I want and no one's ever going to find out. And that was just like a huge freedom. And I did actually, I think another big thing that happened was, I was dating somebody when I moved. I moved to, I moved actually to the south for a little bit.

But I came with a boyfriend and he, he was, like, he was psycho. So he actually faked a suicide to, like, try to keep me in the state and just, like, ridiculous shit. And so we only stayed together for like a month after I moved. But he, like, took over my life in that month and was just crazy. So as soon as that, as soon as that was cut off, that was the final thing. And I think it was only like a week or two later when I was just, I was like, I need to do something exciting. Like, I've always, I've always kind of had an interest, a weird interest in, like, escorting. Yeah, obviously, because how, that's what I was, that's what I was figuring, right?

Like, somehow this wasn't like, it just didn't come to you at that point, right? You had been thinking about this previously, but couldn't do it. Right. But I never thought of it as a possibility. You know, I never, I never thought in my mind like, oh, I'm going to try this someday. Was it just something that, like, you fantasize about and it was, like, kind of like a turn on to you? Or, like, when you say you had, like, a weird curiosity or was it just something you were curious about? It was, well, I remember being, like, pretty young, maybe, like, 14, 15 and just, like, finding, like, the secret diary of a call girl.

And, like, secretly reading, like, get checking it out from the library and reading it, cover to cover, and, like, watching that show. and just all of it. I just found it so interesting. And like, I don't know. I just always love, I think I definitely like to be anonymous and have secrets. I'm finding that out about myself. I like to do sneaky shit. Oh, that's interesting.

And that's a part of that whole scene, right? So is that what you, like, sort of responded to when you would read those books and stuff, the kind of secretness about it and the, the undercover thing? I think so and I'm a writer and really interested in that because I'm always like, I want a good story. Like I want my life to be a really good story and I want something to write about.

Right. You know? So got to go out and find it. You were just destined to do it. I mean, there was something in you that was like, you know, interested, right? It piqued your curiosity. And it was something, listen, you know, so when you move, were you like working? Like, how are you making your money? Or did it, was it also like about the money? at that point as well. Actually, I worked from home, so I just took my job with me. So it wasn't honestly money at all.

I was living in like a pretty cheap area. I was just renting a room from a couple and barely got any bills. So I think just the idea of having extra money to start off, I was like, I just should pile it on. Like, let me just go out and find a way to make a shit fund more and do whatever and just go shop all this stuff. It was just ridiculous. there was no real reason. It wasn't out of necessity, I guess. Right.

It was out of curiosity and just something that you were always kind of interested in. Now that you were really far from home, you figured why not try it? Like, this is now something you could do and you could live this secret life. And I'm assuming that there's some sort of like, I mean, it turns, like there's a turn on to it as well, right? Definitely, yeah. Okay, cool. So now I know that you said that you were looking for, like, daddy figures to talk to and stuff. Like, is that, was that like your thing as an escort?

Like, when you throw your first Craigslist, is that, or is that something you figured, you found out you liked, you know, after some experience or like, what was you, what did you go out looking for when you were an escort? So that, when I was escorting, I didn't have like a niche or anything specific. It was usually, honestly, the people that I saw, it was pretty vanilla. Like, nobody ever wanted anything weird. Uh-huh. And were you sad about that?

Well, yeah, I was kind of like, geez, I thought. I was going to get it. But, I mean, it was still, like, super interesting and exciting. But the sex itself was, like, really boring. But let me ask you this, because to me, what I would always think about is, like, because I had a friend whose friend did it here in New York City, right? And she just thought, oh, she's going to, like, make, she did it more for the money. And she thought it was kind of glamorous and everything.

But, you know, she came back and was like, oh, my God, like, I'd have to fuck guys with, like bad breath and like stuff like that and it's like that's the kind of stuff that you're like if you really think it through you're like oh my God like what do you do if that person has bad breath or they're really ugly like I mean do you close your eyes like I mean what was your experiences

like I mean because you don't sound too traumatized by the experience I mean you're like into it right yeah no not at all you know I never ran into anybody that was like super shady or anything like that which I got really lucky with but no so yeah I can definitely remember specifically like this one guy I think I'd see him just twice and this is the second time and he was like super overweight and just wanted a like all he was was

blow jobs and it's just a like it was definitely did not smell great it was not fun but I just was thinking in my mind I'm like okay just like 20 more minutes of this and I'm getting like I keep $1,000. So just keep thinking about the money. Like, that's all. Wait a second. Yeah, that's what I'm curious about. My next question was going to be your price list as well as your Craigslist at,

as well as your first experience. Let's start with your price list, though. Like, you get $1,000 for a blow job. And it varies, it varies for sure. Like, I'm trying to think, because I've done it in a couple of different areas. So I think I've got anywhere between when I first started it, would be like a couple, it would be like three or 400 bucks because I was working under a madam for a little bit.

And so she would set the prices and take a cut. So I would get, she would sell like 30 minute blocks of time, just super gross. And I'd never do that again. But. Oh my God. I have a million questions for you. Did you start off with the madam first or did you start off with, okay. So let's just start again chronologically.

Let me go back to that. So I make sure I get all the information I'm looking for. So you, so you decide. you're going to do it, right? And you find an Adam, I'm assuming online or something, where someone's looking for people to do it. And you go and meet this madam and you decide you want to be a part of her agency and they hire you.

Yep. It was actually, it was really I was, yeah, I wanted to. I felt like that was a safer way to start because I just didn't know the ins and outs yet. So I wanted a little bit of protection. So she, yeah, she actually was in a different

state. So I never met her. It was just all over the phone. And She just, she was a former escort, apparently, and just had a couple of girls in the D.C. area that she would bring in for, you know, three, four days in a time. So I just, I did that a couple of times. But I found out that she wasn't screening the candidates the way that she said she was. So I got really mad. Well, what was your first experience like? Were you, like, nervous?

Were you really turned on? Was it both, I'm assuming? Very nervous, yeah. Mm-hmm. And it was, but it was fine, like the first guy that she sent me, all he wanted to do was go down on me. It was like a super sweet, like, I think he was like a cab driver, like older, barely spoke English, but he's so very polite. So that's all he did for an hour and brought me like candy and water and like trees. Wait, so are you just sitting there while he's going down on you and you're like eating gummy bears and having a Coke?

stuff. I could have been reading the paper. I'd always make jokes like, oh, it's so great. Like, you could just go downtown and, like, for hours that I could just sit there and read the paper. I mean, who doesn't want that, right?

I should have just been listening to your pod, like a podcast all the time. So for one hour, he just did that or like, and like, let me ask you this. Like, did you come during that one hour? No. Like, he wasn't, I hate,

like, I really not, like, oral at all. I don't, like, receiving. You what? I don't like receiving oral. I don't like them guys go down on me. That's weird. How could you not like that?

That's weird. It's just not like they're never good at it. Well, have you ever been with a woman then maybe? I don't know. I have. And? No, she was that. You know what?

And then that's a whole other topic. Yeah, we'll get to that. Okay. I'm not going to let you go until I get all the info, okay? So wait. So, wait. you went down on you for an hour. Do you know how much he paid for that? He paid, I think, total, I want to say, $700, $800, something like that.

So this was like, you, this is like more high end, right? I would say so. There's definitely girls that make a lot more, but there's girls who make less, too. Girls that are charging, like, three. I would say, like, the people that you find on Craigslist, like, those kind of have scores that are just, like, you know, text me or whatever. they're making like 300, 300 bucks for an hour, I think. And yours was 700, right. And how much of that did you take home? She took out of 60% cut, I believe.

So, yeah, I wouldn't. It was not great. Okay, so you stay with her for a little while and then you leave and you decide, I'm just going to do this on my own and then you go up on Craigslist? Yeah, no, I didn't, I didn't use Craig's a little bit. That was pretty shoo, you know, I used like back page and stuff. But this was all around the time when the credit card companies and, like, everything started to get shut down as far as everything that experts were using. So it started to get really hard to find clients, find really good clients.

And so I did find just a couple of good ones. But I eventually, I started, I was also doing SeekingArrangement.com at the same time to find a sugar daddy instead. So I found, I had some luck with that too. What happened with that? And you were doing this at the same time that you were like doing your escorting? Yeah. Or would you start? Yeah, no.

I mean, it just takes a shit kind of work to just find and screen these people. So it's like I would definitely like start and stop and start and stop when I felt like it. But consistently I was on picking arrangements. And that also was a lot of work because you end up meeting a lot of people that just don't follow through. It just doesn't work out or whatever. Yeah. I had a girl on recently who was like had the found a guy that was giving her a bunch of money and everything. And she was like, I feel like I should get five more guys like this.

I'm like, it's not that easy. Like, you know. No, it's not. Right. So were you successful in finding, is that where the whole daddy thing came in? Actually, no. That was like a very recent thing that I just, I was like, I feel, I got like, I just. just was like drunk one night.

I was like, I just wanted to do something. And I just started like searching around crime's list. Yeah, and I was just like, let's explore this. She kind of came out of nowhere. I don't really know what that was from. Okay, but that's something that you're into now. That's like a little kind of fetish of yours, right? But let's still stick at where we're at in our story because I don't want to get confused.

So you go after you leave that woman, right? on like back page and stuff. So when do you, how do you start doing it on your own successfully? Where do you land with that? Well, I posted on like that page. Yeah.

But you said that was kind of shady, no, or that work for you? Tregos was worse. Back page was okay. Right. So yeah, you know,

I get like a decent amount of messages and then try to screen them and like one out of every 20 would even give me any information about them to just try to screen. So, yeah, that was definitely more difficult. How long were you with the madam for?

I think overall just a couple of months. I need a few trips out to D.C. And like in those couple of months, are you talking like numbers-wise? It's like, did you see like five guys or like 50 guys? Oh, probably like 20. Okay. And it was cool. So this is something that you were always curious about.

You start out with that woman. And the only reason why you end with her is because she's shady, but it's not like you got turned off. Like it was working for you, right? Yeah. Like you, it was like everything you had thought it was going to be. Right? Well, you know, it was tough to like I'm kind of, I definitely more of a control freak.

So it was tough to rely on her to like line up work for me when I had made this trip out to D.C. So it was a lot of, it was kind of. No, what I mean more so is just just the escorting in general, the sort of transitional, you pay me for sex and you're meeting these strange guys and you're now, you're living this life that you had always sort of fantasized about. So I'm assuming since you're still doing it now that this is something that it was exciting, right?

Yeah. No, actually I'm not, I haven't done it for a while for probably a year, but I still do some arrangement stuff. But were you, like, so you didn't like have an orgasm when the guy like went down on you, but like when you would have the guys that you'd have to like fuck them and stuff like you would,

I'm assuming you would have orgasms, right? Because you said you didn't do it for the money. I'm assuming like you did it for the pleasure No not really honestly It was fun But it is actually hard for me to get off during sex Like I do enjoy it Of course

It's definitely not like a chore But yeah no I don't I don't really come during sex like very much Okay but if you don't say what do you come from Because you don't come from people going down on you either Like what do you need? What's interesting? What gets you off?

I yeah it's like very tough I have to like I have to have to me or me like I have to get off by like playing with my clit while they're like while they're having sex with me or while they're inside me. Yeah but that's okay that's I think that that's pretty common that's like unless you can find right so but why wouldn't you wouldn't do that when you're with these guys that you were seeing? No because it was more important for me to just like I mean sometimes I would fake it but really. I just wanted to get them off. I wasn't worried about getting myself off. Like sometimes I would masturbate after they left if I was like really, like had some attention or whatever and like wanted to just wanted to get it out. You know, that's what's so confusing to me.

And I think it's probably a little bit of a letdown for guys, right? Because you know that I think what they always want to believe is that when they're with somebody like you, right? That you're not faking it, that you're really into it. Right. And I thought for sure because you had always read about it and because it wasn't. wasn't about the money and that like there would be like this huge turn on right for you and so you would be like totally orgasming right so it's just like so if it's not for the money and it's

not for the orgasms is it what is it what do you really think if you have to really think about yourself right what do you think it's about I think I really like just I mean all because I have much good luck with the guys that came in like you kind of feel they treat you really well like the good ones they kind of worship you and I love that so it's the tension it's the they make you feel good about yourself

yeah yeah and these are like obviously older successful men that just really desperately want you to like them like that's all they want when they come in the room they want to not feel like a loser basically right in a weird

way you're kind of looking for the same thing I suppose I mean, because you just said you're kind of, you like the way that they like you, right? So it is kind of the same thing, right? You're right. So did you ever have anyone that you were like really turned on by that you had orgasms or did you never orgasm with anyone? I don't think I ever did. But I definitely was turned on by a couple of people.

Like I had a really hot, like young doctor who came to me and he was a real sweetheart. so that I actually enjoy but you know that doesn't come you should listen to my episode Dr. Guy it's probably him he was probably the guy you fucked now he's very good looking all right so

okay so that just throws me a little bit because I think like I said I think you know you would think that if a woman's going to do that she would be doing it for if it's not for some sort of dysfunctional reason it's either for the money or it's for the getting off but you're

saying it's sort of to make you feel good about yourself. Like do so does it ever like through this whole time of you doing this right? Like have you ever felt like it's a problem that you do it or it's like a weird like an issue and you're like wonder why you do it? Or is it still just something that you still like to do regardless? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, I've never thought it was like I'm very pro sex work all around like regardless of me being involved in it. So, no, I never thought it was, like, crazy.

Obviously, you know, it's trippy. So the only person that knows about this, I would always tell my best friend back home, you know, where I was. I would, you know, try to keep her in the loop for some kind of safety, and she's very not judgmental. And she was actually trying to help me for a little bit. But no one else knows. So it's interesting. Like, the only times where it got a little weird is, you know, I remember a couple of times going back home, being with this group of friends, with my best friend there who knows about

Georgia. And my, it would come up in conversation and, like, other friends would just make, like, shitty comments about horrors or prostitutes or whatever. Yeah, ridiculous. And we'd just be looking at each other, like, oh, like, this is great. My friends, like, would hate me if they knew what I was doing. It's, like, very disappointing to find out. So, yeah.

But what would probably be interesting. Right. And this is why I kind of do my show because so many people do live these sort of secret lives, right? And I always say like people that are calling in and the things that these people are talking about are things. You could be sitting next to this person at a bar and that person's doing it. This could be your friend and you don't know. And so I think, you know, that eventually one day when we live in a society, you know, 100 years or 50 years from now or 30, whatever it is that everything's so much more acceptable that people won't judge people because look, your friends might think, oh, whores or whatever. it's all bad, but they don't understand that you, that's what you do and that's who you are. And that does it. And they know somebody who does. And they love that person.

And that's their friend. You know what I mean? And why would it change what they, like you're still the same person. You're everything that they're friends with you for, right? But you also do this other thing. So why be judgmental? So it would be interesting if they found out. The funny thing is, is they probably would then just totally define you by it if they

couldn't handle it and throw all the rest of you out, right? which is ridiculous, but it would be interesting for them to know that they're sitting around talking so terribly, you know, about a person that they don't understand they're like great friends with. Do you know what I mean? Exactly. I know it almost makes me like just kind of want to keep it in my back pocket like if I ever get into a sight or something like, you know what? You are like you've had it wrong this whole time. Oh my God. Right. Like it right. And if you only knew kind of thing. If I were you, I wouldn't because. you know what it is with stuff like that.

It just would put stuff on you because they would say stuff. And there's no reason for you to sort of have to hear any of that. And sometimes, like, people just aren't ready. Like, I always say, like, unevolved. Like, sometimes I'll call someone unevolved. And I'm just like, I don't even think that that's an insult, you know, because I think it's like sort of like, it's like saying someone who's in kindergarten is, like, stupid compared to someone who's in fifth grade.

Like, the person in fifth grade is smarter because they're in fifth grade, you know. and some people are just, like, I think spiritually on this planet, like they're just a little bit behind. And those are the people that are more ignorant and not open-minded. And like, you almost feel for them. But there's something you could kind of do, I don't think. I mean, I think there is stuff to do. Like, people need to sort of change that kind of behavior. But I think that they just don't know any better.

You know what I mean? And that's probably best that you keep it a secret. And for you, the secret is actually a part of the thrill. Because I still can't. And when I was saying before, like, oh, is it? Do you think it's an issue or anything? Not because I think what you're doing is wrong or anything. I just wish you could get pleasure out of it because that's what it's about, right?

Like sex to me, like to me, I don't know. Like, why has sex if you're not going to have an orgasm? I could count the time on my one hand that I faked it because I'm not going to fake it. Like if I'm there and I'm doing it like, I want to get off. Like, I mean, because I like it feels so good. Like, why wouldn't you use those experiences? Like, do you have orgasms with anyone like in your life? Oh, yeah. If I'm, you know, I really do have to be comfortable with them, of course. So, yeah, people I date, like, I'm definitely, you know, not going to date them if I'm not getting on.

Right, right. So when you're having regular sex in your life, but like, now have you dated anybody in the, and when you do date people while you're doing the escorting, do you stop or do you do it on the side? Oh, you know, I haven't dated anyone, like, seriously enough to. care, like, I haven't had a boyfriend since I started, I guess. So I have... How long has it been going on? About two years. So for two years, okay. But you haven't done it for a year.

Is that counted in that two years? Or it was two years and then this year that you... Because you said you haven't done it for two years. Well, for one year. So two years ago, I started. And then this year, I guess I kind of count. Like, I've gone on... I've found people in seeking arrangements, but I've gone on like...

like very, the line is so sorry. You know? So, for example, like a couple of months ago, I met someone on seeking arrangement and he flew me out to Denver

for a weekend and gave me a thousand bucks, like, for a day. Right. And I just went to parties with him and obviously we had sex or whatever. And, you know,

I didn't find him on the back page, but I would still consider that, like, an escort, you know? Yeah, totally. Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, 100%. That's just like doing your own thing. That's no different, I think. Mm-hmm. I think a lot of, I think a lot of probably escorts go on places like that, the ones that are doing their own thing, right?

To try and hook up and get, you know, because for you, you like for there to be a money exchange, right? I do. And honestly, like, I know, I guess it is kind of confusing my motive, but, you know, I think the biggest thing for me is just like that. Like I said, you know, feeling like they really are just worshipping me and want my affection. I love that. But also just when they leave, it's just, it's just. It's just the adrenaline. I feel it's like it's a high.

It's a little bit of a high. Yeah, no, it's interesting, obviously, because that's why you don't. That's why you enjoy it, but you're not having an orgasm because you are getting something out of it. It's right. I mean, so you don't really kind of need it. I just don't understand why you wouldn't just play with your clit

and just have an orgasm on top of it. Like, why do you stop? Is it because, like you said, you want to be in control and you want to keep that moment and you're just focused on like, you know, being really good for them so that they're really into it? Yeah. Yeah. It really is just more about them, I think.

Right. Okay. So, and like a couple times when it's been hot, you like jerk off when they leave and kind of think about that. Yeah. And when did the woman, like when you said something, I mentioned something about being with a woman going down on you and you said that's a whole other story. What's that story?

So when I moved to California, I started to, and actually I was thinking about this. for a while, but I was always, I've been interested in polyamory for a bit and I did find, I was on OkCupid when I first moved here and this couple actually approached me and they wanted, they wanted to look, they were looking for a poly relationship. So I was in that for a little bit, probably like six months. So that was the first time I had sex with a girl. And it was terrible. Wait, how come?

So you meet this couple and you decide, like it's like not just about sex, right? Like you're going to like date them, right? That's the whole polyamber thing, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we dated for like a couple of months before we even all like had a threesome for the first time. Okay. It was pretty slow building.

But no, she, her vagina smelled awful. Oh my God. You're kidding. Maybe she had like an infection or something. Did you say, I mean, this was your girlfriend at the time. Like did you say, hey. Like, you know, you could talk to girls. Like, did you tell her?

No. Was she a clean person? She didn't like smell anywhere and it was just Did you ask the guy Were you like friends like close enough with him to pull him aside and be like I don't know how it works in that kind of scenario right? But like yeah I think I would have if it had gone on longer

But after like me and the girl you know Had sex probably like a couple of times And then we all got a couple three since whoever And she started to go nuts so she was like telling you know different stories to me and and him and eventually it turned out that she was convinced that I was trying to steal her husband and get them divorced right she obviously couldn't deal with it like maybe she thought she was ready for that kind of a situation but she couldn't so her badge smelled every time so it wasn't just I'm thinking it was just the one time

it was every time you fooled around with her like she stunk every time Yep. Oh, that's gross. Yeah, that's really bad. That probably turned you, like, that could have traumatized you to women totally. I don't know. God, I know. So, wait, so she went crazy.

So obviously she was, and then you guys all broke up? Yeah, he had to call me and he was like, I'm sorry. Like, I know you didn't know that any of this, but she had been, like, going crazy every night. And then, you know, one second she'll tell me how much she loved you. And the next second, she wants, she, like, thinks she's the devil. Okay. but let me ask you this. I mean,

you were dating them for a couple months. Like, did you develop, like, real emotional feelings for these people? Like, were you emotionally invested in this relationship?

Absolutely. It was actually, yeah, it was kind of rough because she, you know, from it turned on me and then, like,

sent me a bunch of nasty texts. Like, you need to figure out your sexuality, blah, blah, like don't ever come after us again. Oh, my God, did you pull out the file?

Like, did you ever say, well, what about your fishy vet? Did you pull out that file at all when she was being so many? to you. I was going to, but I talked myself out of it. Yeah, that's smart.

Yeah, but no, she's, to this day, like, she's crazy. Like, she continues to, like, post pictures of us on Instagram. She's found my brother on Instagram to follow him, like, a bunch of my friends. She was looking at me on LinkedIn. Like, she's still lurking. How long ago to that relationship end? Like six months ago, at least. Okay, so six months, but do any of your friends know about that?

Or all your friends are? Yes. I, yep, I've been honest with, like, my best friends about that one. Okay, and they were cool with that. Did you tell them that you, like, went down on the girl and she smelled? I don't know, I just think it's funny. Yeah, yeah, I have, like, a couple of lesbian friends that I'm really close to do. So I was definitely, like, you'll never guess my first.

And what did they say? I mean, because I always think, like, I don't see. how, like unless you have like a bacterial infection or something like it should not smell. And it's, I would, to me, it's very surprising when you hear that it smells really bad. It must be like a thing because what could make it smell so bad unless, like I said, she's got like an infection she doesn't know about, right? What did the lesbian say? They come around that a lot.

They said, you know, it's happened to them before for sure. You know, people just like aren't cleaning enough, like well enough or, you know, maybe it's the thing like, you know, you took a shower in the morning and then you like were walking around day or whatever and you know should have freshened up what you did yeah no I'm not like an overly like hyper clean person I'm just normal and I've never smelled and I've walked around all day and then fooled around when someone didn't even clean you know what I mean I don't think it really should smell I think that these poor people someone should tell them that they probably have an infection and should go to the guy of college just anyway I probably guys are like Kathy stop talking about

smelly badges like it's the one like turning every guy off that's listening to this podcast so after that so let me ask you this though about that polyamory relationship do you think it's the same part of you that like loves like having this guy when you're escorting like be so into like do you think the polyamory thing is the same kind of a thing like you get like two people like totally into so it just was like feeding that same part of you maybe um i don't know no i i think my interest in polly was more um pretty logical like i i just decided you know after thinking about it a lot and like looking back on my relationships i'm like i really just don't think monogamy makes sense i don't think it's going to be great for me you know long term

so what are the other options i just started to hear more about polly and i was like i should just try this I think it makes more sense. Right. Now let me ask you this one. You were in your relationships and you didn't think that monogamy was really right. Was it because you wanted to always be with other people or was it because you got cheated on? Like why did you not have a good sort of

experience? No, actually like I've really I've been cheated on like maybe once or twice but it was a long, long time ago, nothing big. Yeah, right. I've done, I've had like one minor time where I like half cheated on someone a longest time ago too.

And so it's nothing like that, but I just knew when I was with all these people, I was like, if you really want me to commit like long term, I just can't, I can't promise you that I'm going to want to be with you forever. I just knew. I was like, these guys want commitment and I just don't want to give it to them if they're not. Because they were never, I brought it up a couple of times with people that I was starting to get more serious with like, hey, I'm really interested in this. I think that I'm going to want something open or something different down the line. But they always kind of shut the door on that. Right, because maybe they didn't think that they could handle it. Maybe sometimes when it's too early on, you know, in a relationship, I think it could be scary. Because I think maybe sometimes people just want to make sure that they have security with the one person first. You know what I mean? And then when you feel really secure with somebody, I think then you could take that next step. That's what I think. I was always, I was very similar to you, except I grew up in a totally different time, like, you know, so much longer ago.

And I was always like, oh, I wanted me a swing or when I grew up. like I was always obsessed with swingers and like that whole lifestyle. And I was always like commitment phobic because it always seemed like sort of like, I don't know, I would do something go that I called marriage math. I'd be like like, if I marry this person at this age and I think I'm going to die at this age and like how many years am I going to be with them? Do you know what I mean? And like 40 years is just like I'd rather kill myself.

Like the thought of being the same person for that long. It was just never was that interest. It was actually scared. Like it was something that I just couldn't do, you know? and I know that I remember watching this great swinger show, like, thing. And it was all about how like the people that were like with each other for a long time before they got into it, they were more successful. And I think it really depends.

Nowadays I think people, especially in your generation, are a lot more open. So you could probably meet somebody that maybe has been more successful at it at it than you, you know, and had more a lot of experience. And if you got in with that kind of a guy or that kind of couple, like maybe it would work out because that's what you're totally into. Or I would say if you're going and getting involved with a guy that was never into that, and it was never something that he had been thinking about, you'd probably be better off if you like the guy, waiting until you're like a little bit more serious and they're like,

feel secure in the relationship before you bring that up. You know what I mean? Yeah, I definitely struggle with that because it's like, do I really want to waste a time with somebody that is going to be totally against it? But I think, you know, so. Well, it depends. I don't know. I think it's really hard to find people that like all the stars align and like you really like them. I don't know. So I just think if like you meet somebody and you really like them and you think that they're not really that into it like you know, I think maybe they could grow to be into it later down the line. I don't know. I'm just saying that, you know, maybe you don't want to say stuff like that or maybe I'm wrong. You know, like I said, I grew up in the wrong generation. I should have grown up like but I sometimes think because I was just so rebellious that if I grew up now and I was your age. I'd be prude. I wouldn't do anything like because I just like to be opposite everybody else.

Like and so when I was younger, I was like really slutty and really promiscuous and all these things that nobody was. And that's just because nobody did it. So I'm like, I'm going to do it. So I think if I was young now, I'd be like really prude and like a virgin until I was married just because nobody else was because now everybody's like the way that I was when I was like. It's like no big deal. You I don't I mean, it's just very common. So for you, I think, like, maybe it is better. Like, you're probably right, you know, that it's just weed out the people that would totally not be interested because you're super progressive and open-minded when it

comes to this kind of stuff, right? But what about the daddy thing? Like, where does that come into play now? Like, that's something that you're thinking about now, right? Is that because of, like, your arrangements or it's just some new thing? Like you said, you were drunk. Did you have an experience with somebody? No, not at all.

Like, I think this one thing. I was like, look, I just like, stumbled on or just searching for, I think I was just trying to get more adventures in, like, my porn searches. So I was like, I'm bored of whatever else I was watching before. Totally. And I was into it. And so, yeah, I think that's really, so I'm going to. Wait, wait, you're getting a little muffled. So then you, so you were watching that kind of porn and you just got like into the whole daddy thing.

Now, have you gone looking for that? Yeah. So I posted a carnival ad. one weekend and just wanted to like chat with people. I was like, let's just see what's out there. And got a shit ton of responses. And then I think the following weekend, like I kept talking to this one guy. And we met at a hotel and just like fucked and did the whole role-playing thing.

And it was really fun. Really, it was so reckless though, but it's, yeah, I don't know. It was fun. I don't know if I don't hopefully you'll do something like that again anytime soon. Why was it reckless? Because like you didn't vet him properly or he didn't pay. I mean, why was it reckless? He could have been a total killer.

I really need nothing about him on a time. Yeah. And I usually, I never do stuff like that. Was like alcohol involved that you just like threw caution to the wind or like how come in that time were you that you were so reckless? Honestly, no. Like when I invited him like I was so like I was so like I was. sober. I drove to the hotel and, you know, we definitely started drinking like when you got there.

So, you know, the sex itself is drunk sex. And how old was he? And how old are you again? I'm 27. He was, I think he was like 33, something like that. Oh, so how much of a daddy could he be? Oh, no. It's just talking. Like it's just, right, right. So it's just like, oh. So let me just ask you this because I'm always like curious. Is this like an incest fantasy? Like, is it kind of like you're pretending that he's your father? I don't know.

God, I hope not. Not your real father, but a father. It's like a pretend situation. Is that what you mean by, like, daddy? I don't know. I don't know how to answer that because it's not like we're really like playing out huge scenes. Right.

You know, it's just like during sex. You know, he'll call me his baby girl and I'm calling him his daddy and like he'll talk. Like, he kind of went far with it. He was like, he was talking. talking about like impregnating me and shit and I'm like ew I don't want to go that far you didn't have your boundaries in place but it was good I mean you were turned on by the whole thing oh yeah it was a lot of fun please tell me because there was no money involved in that with that guy right um nope okay so you definitely had an orgasm right with him you know

oh my god you're really disappointing me I don't know why I have a problem with women that have sex that don't have orgasms. I think it's wrong and not because because I want you to. Like, why are you not experiencing it too? Like, why are you not enjoying it too? And don't tell me you still enjoy it without it. I used to have a friend. That's bullshit, okay?

That's like saying I went to a restaurant and I looked at the food and it doesn't matter that I didn't eat it because I enjoyed looking at it. It's bullshit. Do you have you had orgasms? I swear. I swear to God. Wait, excuse me. Let me just listen.

Have you had orgasms? Yes. Oh my God. So why would you not want to have that? Like, let me ask you this. When you're with that guy, do you not have it because you try really hard and it just doesn't happen? Or you decided not to. Because you know what to do with your body to have one, right?

You just have to play with your clip while he's fucking you, right? But for some reason, you don't do that? Or were you doing it and it didn't happen? That time, it just didn't happen. And sometimes, like. Because you were drunk? Yeah. No, no, no, I don't think because of that.

I think it just takes a really long time. and like with guys I don't know it's just not like I get in my head where I'm like oh this taking forever like he wants to switch positions now what I'm it you know so it's just kind of like all right and I yeah it's interesting with all the experience that you have that's what just what I just like to focus on I don't know I always get more curious about parts of people that don't make sense and I try to like make sense out of it right like all this other stuff is interesting the escorting stuff but like the little thing that you don't like how it like to me I don't I don't get it and like you go and the fact that it takes you so long considering that like sex and all of this stuff like you're so

sort of open about it and into it and you put a lot of energy it seems like probably the most exciting part of your life right that's happening right now yet you're not really getting off so it's like all about all this other stuff I just don't understand why at this point you're still in your head considering you have so much experience you know what I mean Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't know what that's about. You need to work on that because it's bullshit when you say it's fun anyway, okay? Yeah. But that's so, you're cheating yourself. You need how to learn how to like come faster. Like, why do you think you have such a hard time? Like when you play with yourself, right? Like, is it quick?

No, no. Not really. Not always. And just playing with your clit doesn't like get you off like really fast? No, for some reason it doesn't Do you have you like a lot of nerve endings? I mean like you've been checked out physical Do you have like scoliosis is something wrong what you're about like I mean Oh gosh

You're okay right? You know what I forget to ask sometimes And guys will write in and saying hey Kathy you forgot Especially with my female colors is I need to get like what you look like The guys listening probably want to put like You know I'm assuming you're 27 years old You're getting these guys this pay

you a thousand dollars and fly you out you got to be hot right like on a scale of one to ten what are you like explain your deal that well um probably way lower in california but in the midwest i was probably like an eight or a nine in uh in southern california probably like a seven right because everyone there is like a ten and a half's right right but so you're still in that right but in like your body like what kind of body type do you have Um, I mean, an average high. I'm like 5-5 thin. I'm not like athletic really at all. What's your, what's your bra cup? Like, I mean, when you put in your stats, when someone looking to hire you, like, what do you put in? Yeah, yeah. Um, I usually don't get like explicit. That's, I'm gross, but, uh, 30, I'm, I'm a D and so, like, small D.

You're a D? Don't really have a big ass. No. Yeah, I am. Wait, but natural? Yes. Okay, that's probably great for guys. I mean, that probably like is like a really good thing, don't you think? Like as far as, you know, because they're real, right? I mean, if I were you, I'd be explicit with that on your ads because I think that that helps. You could charge more money, you know? Yeah. I know, maybe. So you have a small waist, you have huge boobs, right? Your average height and you're really pretty. And what is the most you ever got for sex? One, I got, let's, I'm trying to fake. Like, was a thousand the most? I mean, that's a lot. I think so.

I think it was for just like a couple hours. How much would you make a year, like when you did it for a year? Like, do you remember, like, did you make a shitload of money? I don't know. It's really hard to fake because it was sporadic. Right. But I'm sure, yeah, and that's the thing that, you know, so many sex workers something about is like it's you know

if somebody can't like it sucks up your whole you can't like you just so hard to predict but I think I could have made for sure for sure more than I'm making now I mean I could have easily made like six figures right absolutely yeah when you do it all the time and make it like your full time

job like for sure you can't how come you're not doing that now yeah I wanted to talk to you about that actually I don't know I I really don't know because I don't like my job, but I think I just worry about leaving, like, the workforce, like, you know, having a gap in my resume or whatever. Just like stupid.

I just don't know. Like, no, listen, I think that that's like, listen, you're obviously a person that thinks a lot, right? You think so much that you can't even have orgasms when you're having sex, okay? Yeah. That's the place where thinking too much is bad. But in your life, thinking things, over and very through like you did when you lived at home and you were like, oh, I don't want to,

you know, I could always bump into people. Like that kind of thinking I think is smart. When I was younger, everybody was stripping. Like it's when stripping became like popular and all of my friends stripped. And I was like you. Like I would and I had like the best body out of all my friends and they'd be like, why aren't you doing it? And I would be like, what if like my uncle showed up to the ball?

Like I would just think all these scenarios out of my head that it just was like there's no way I could do that and that's the way I haven't I think and then I overthink the same way in negative ways in my life right so that's the positive and negative so I get it but I think that that is smart of you I think like this is a place where you're thinking about because like it is true like it's like a commitment right and you kind of like don't really like to commit 100% to anything and I don't I'm not saying that because I think it's bad right I think that that's that's good you're like a free spirit right so it's like you would you might be locking your yourself down a little bit by like letting go completely right of this other sort of mundane life and just

because if you give that all up and have that you might get stuck then just doing that and I think that's your fear and I think that that's smart because unless you and I think like you're the type of person that really thinks things through that if it was the right thing to do like you would know that do you know what I mean the fact I don't think you should try to force yourself to do it until you feel that it was right. And I think because you don't feel that it's right yet is your answer. You know what I mean? Because listen, you're the type of person that thought that escorting was something that you wanted to do and you went and did it. So it's not like you're too conservative or you hold yourself back. You know what I mean? You do whatever the fuck you want to do. Okay. And that's a good thing because you're not going to have any

midlife crisis or anything like other people. Like you're living your life the way you want to regardless, you know but I think if right now you're a little afraid to let go I think you know you shouldn't make any drastic moves I mean maybe I don't know like what are you like okay so you're thinking about that like if you just like it like how come you can't do it like you used to do it before sort of middle of the road like do this and do that at the same time I can um but it's really just a time thing like I'm trying to figure out my career right now and I'm probably going to be like transitioning because I don't like my job. I'm trying to figure out what to do next.

And trying to like side hustle, trying to write and stuff. And that just like takes up so much time. And it's, but it's frustrating because I'm making no money doing this extra stuff. But it's like I'm trying to be sensible. Like, okay,

I should, you know, make some kind of like build up a brand for myself or build up some, some kind of, you know, extra thing for myself as a backup because I really need to get out of here.

So that leads me into like, you know, the things that I like to do, I have an online presence. And I am kind of terrified that, like, I can't go after both at once. I can't have like a website up with half of my face on it, advertising Georgia, and then try to like have a consulting company on the other side where my face is all over that too. Right. I'm terrified of those two ropes crossing. Right, right. Because I want them both. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And you said you're very good at sort of compartmentalizing. And these two, you have to compartmentalize these two parts of your life, right? Because how do they go together? You have to sort of pick one or like, what do you do regularly, like outside of the escorting? Like, what is, what do you do? What's my day job? Yeah.

So what's that website all about that you have? Oh, so that would be, like, I, my background is in like, I, I'm, okay, so I'm, okay, So I'm currently a hiring manager. I have recruiting experience and managing experience, whatever, people management. So I am trying to go out of my own and just be a consultant, like an independent consultant. And you could make a lot of money doing that. I mean, consulting in that kind of realm. You make a lot of cash, too, right?

Yeah, I'm hoping. I'm hoping, yeah. And do you love that? I mean, like, let me ask you this. Like, if you could be, like, at the top of a field, of any field, like, if, like, you, Like you could just like had a wish, right? And you could be the most successful, whatever. Like what would, what would it be?

I'm assuming a writer, right? Yeah, a writer and a public speaker. And what do you write? Fiction, nonfiction. What's your deal? Written a lot of different stuff. No, more nonfiction, like narrative, nonfiction. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And has that gone anywhere for you? Not really. I mean, I've definitely published a couple of things on different websites, and I'm just trying to create, you know, some kind of a bodywork to, like, reflect this business that I want to start. I know, but I don't, like, of course, I don't love. I don't love what I do for sure. I would rather be.

So it's sort of like you have three things going on. You have the writing thing. You have this boring job that you don't even like, that you put a lot of. a time into, even though that you couldn't care less about even being on the top of that. So I don't know why you even have that. Like, I mean, can't you do the consulting and all that and still fly below the radar and be, you know, makes a decent amount of money and still do these other things? I mean, do you have to sort of invest more in that?

I don't think so. I guess I'm just scared because I don't have like, I don't really know where to start. I'm afraid to, like, I can't really advertise my consulting services until I quit my job, really, because I think the head of my managers find me out is like, hi. Right. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. So making that jump before I even know, like, if I'm going to get a client, like, I'm very, I'm terrified of that.

Right. So that's why you have to do the online presence thing. So that's because you're, that's how you're looking for it. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to legitimize myself first, I guess. Right.

Okay. So you do have to, like you do have to sort of like at this point in your life. And that's what is so hard about being younger. Like, you know, everybody who's younger and your age that wants to be successful, like has to put in all this like legwork, you know, in the beginning of anything. And like, because you have like these three different parts of your life, the writing, which is something that you have to keep up. Like I know a lot of super successful creative people. That was always where the business I worked in and stuff. And it takes a long time sometimes.

I mean, people see people become famous. Like it seems like it happens overnight, but it doesn't. And anybody that's super creative, they know that, you know, comedians I mostly work with. But like, it takes a long time. It doesn't really happen. And people don't understand that it takes a lot of time for people to create things. And they're doing it for nothing for a very long time before they see any kind of financial rewards or any kind of success. Even though right now with the internet, it's a little bit different.

Things can happen more overnight. It is definitely a different. ball game than when I was in the business, right? But you still got to put in a lot of work. So that takes up, I'm sure, a lot of your time. Because when you're writing, I mean, hours could go by and it feels like two minutes. I know. I've, you know, written before. I've done creative things. Like when you're using that part of your brain, like it sucks out tons of hours. And then you have this day job that you're working all these hours. And then you got to go fuck people and you're not even having orgasms. And it's just like, I'm exhausted thinking about your life. So I mean, are you at a place where you're

trying to think of like whether you go back to one thing or the other like are you trying to like get some things off your plate to make your life easier yeah yeah it's difficult like I mean imagine I just I just think of people like driving their car listening to me tell you like don't give up escorting like you and you just know that people will be like oh my goddie why would you tell her that like because people would be like that's like really terrible but I think like you really like it. But I don't know. I just, I, I, the reason why I don't like it for you, like seriously is, A, I think you do it a little bit because you're like really needy of people to like you. And that's like something that you should maybe like talk to someone about. Like, why do you need that? Because I think,

you know, you might never be fully sort of happy and a regular relationship until you sort of figure out where that's coming from and what that's all about. But maybe it doesn't matter because you'll be in some polyamorous situation. But look at how your polyamorous situation turned out. I don't know. I don't think people have that shit figured out just yet, you know? So you should try to figure yourself out a little bit. But that's the only reason why I think it's like weird, but you make good cash.

I don't know why you can't. I mean, you can still kind of do it like once a month to make a little money. your writing thing is the most important that's probably what you need to focus on the most but you do need the consulting thing because that is consistent so I think you know unfortunately you can't give up

anything right now even though you have what you have given up the escorting thing because you haven't really done it or have any of these guys on secret liaison or whatever that thing is that you're on have any of these guys like can you try to find one to like keep around for a while Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm trying to find someone right now.

So that's what you're looking for? Yeah. Like a sugar daddy that will pay sort of for you. And then would it be as good with the same person as it was with multiple people? Considering you need to know that somebody really likes you and you like that sort of thrill, don't you think that that thrill would be gone if it was the same person all the time or no? I'm sure after a while. get sick of anyone.

Right. No, that's what I'm just saying, because if it's not about the sex and it's not about the money, then, like, is there a thrill of getting this guy that you know likes you and is really into you after like a couple times? Are you like, oh, who cares that you're into me? No, I think just the arrangement itself is, again, like something that would get me off, like the same way that I skirting does. Right, that this guy likes you enough.

Right. It's like that this guy likes you enough to keep you on the same thing. side. Does it also like turn you on with these people like because I'm assuming a lot of these people are like married and stuff, right? I, not that I have known. I have some people come out and say that, but I've never had an arrangement with you that was that told me they were actually married. Right, right. So it's not, that's not a part of it. Sort of like stealing some other guy or like the whole cheating fantasy because some people are like into that. Oh yeah. No, I'm not not into that. Right. And now, when was the last time you had a boyfriend? Two years ago.

So no boyfriend. No, so for the last year, no real escorting, just looking for guys on whatever. And so you wrote into the show because you were like a little confused about what you should do next? Yeah, basically. And it's, you know, there definitely is the underlying thing of like, I'm going to get, like, how, like, the other shoe is going to drop. How have I not gotten caught doing anything? Yeah. Well, I've said this before to people, and this is, I believe this more than anything.

The shoe doesn't have to drop, okay? It really doesn't have to. I don't believe that. But I do believe that when you think that, you almost create that sort of to happen. And sometimes that's a subconscious part of yourself that like almost wants to be caught because you want to stop or you don't because it's confusing or whatever, you know. And I always tell people, it's like the person that's like complaining about their job a lot, you know, like, and then they get fired. It's just like you have to, what do you sit

around thinking about it? Sometimes, like, becomes a reality. So it's just like if you, like, the ball doesn't, like, the shoe doesn't have to drop. If you're really smart about things, you could stay below the radar and do your thing and have it. But the fact that you think it's going to happen, you almost, it may happen just because you're putting that out there. So you have to be careful about that. Do you know what you mean? And what would. And what would. that mean? Like if the shoe drops, right? Like, what, like, what does that look like to you? Oh, man. I guess I haven't really thought about specific scenarios, but the thing, I think the thing that scares me more is just getting into, like, legal problems and, like, having, you know,

somebody, let's say, like, find traces of whatever, find an ad, or somebody that I work with, like, somehow finding, you know, some traces of this on the internet. Yeah, no, it's like, Yeah, it's kind of like the way you used to feel when you lived in that town where you knew or where you lived before. Like now that you're living in this place now, it's no different than when you were, you know, sort of growing up where you grew up where everyone knows you. Like you will, that shit could happen. You know, you just don't know, you know. So you either have to move again. Yeah.

Or you have to, I think maybe do what you're doing. which is really smart in trying to find a regular guy that sort of has a reason as well on his end to keep things very anonymous. So, and you could be very anonymous. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And also, if you start to maybe feel comfortable with him,

you could actually be having orgasms. I mean, please, I can't even handle that you think it's fine. It's wrong. so that maybe you could actually come with him and get paid and be writing and do your consulting. I think that that's what you have to do right now in your life. Because it is true. Like you could get caught because I think like you. I think like those little things could happen and maybe, you know, you just don't know, right?

And you have to. So I think it would be, it is smarter for you to try to find, spend your time, you know, trying to find an arrangement where you have one guy that pays you money to have sex with him, so you get what you want and he gets what he wants. And then you could go figure out all the other stuff in your life. You know what I mean? You got to continue writing. You have to figure out how to get consulting and get a little bit more independent in that part of your life.

And then eventually maybe when you get things sorted out, you could, you meet a guy that's like more open-minded like you and have a relationship with that guy that feels right for you, you know. But probably right now you spend so much time with all this other stuff, you probably don't have time to even think about the guide situation. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Right?

Right. Now, that's good advice, I think. Well, what about my day job? That's a whole other thing. What about your day job? You have to keep it until you find, until you get transition into consulting, right? Or you give that up totally and you go back to ask, recording 100%. But like I said, I think because you're not ready to do that right now,

you know, I mean, listen, some people might say like maybe just go all balls out and jump off a cliff and just like give all that up and just be a writer and do that because you're not getting paid for it and go get paid to be an escort and support yourself. It's no different than the person that goes as a stripper on the side of doing their creative thing or a waitress. I don't know, you know and make all your money and just do the writing thing until that sort of cashes in but then some conservative people would say like no way like you need some stability right yeah yeah you will figure it out like listen i like doing my pockets because i like to help people but like i don't have all the answers i always say i give unprofessional advice i like to help people make

their decisions themselves i mean sometimes i like to shove my opinions on people's throats for sure And sometimes I definitely know what's the right thing and the wrong thing. With you, I don't know. I feel like you're very similar to me when I was younger. And I just think that you're going to figure it out yourself. I think you're just not, I think what's causing you in happiness right now is you're just not like where you want to be, which is a little bit more free, a little bit more doing exactly what you want to be doing and living the life that you see for yourself. And that's just a part of like getting old. Like, you know, it takes time for anybody to sort of reach that point in life, you know.

but it'll eventually work itself out for you, you know? Yeah. Whatever way. If you get caught, you know, that's, that would make a great podcast, but that would be really bad for you, especially if you get busted legally. So I would say, you know, if you get a guy that's doing it as like, and then you could just say you guys are dating or something and there's no sort of, you know, credit card receipts flying around, like that would be your best bet.

right now before you get busted, you know, because that would be a big fear of mind because it is illegal unless you're doing it in a place where it is legal. And, you know, I know that there are places where it is, but not where you live, you know. So be as safe as you can, I think, with that. But, you know, you do say that sometimes you get, like, really drunk and you go do crazy things and that's what you have to be careful about yourself. What could be crazier than, like, what you're already done? Like, what is it? What is it? No, and it's not, I guess I'm not that worried about that because that was the first time that I did something like that. I mean, normally I would never, like, I've never really met up with somebody blinds like that.

Right, but you weren't even drinking, you said, and you drank when you were there. Maybe you're just on some level knew that you could really trust them, and maybe you're like a good read now after being with so many guys. I don't know. Probably. Right? Right. But you should be careful. I watch a lot of dateline and stuff, and I really believe that people,

like fucking murder people. And I sometimes look at these shows and I'm like, do these people not know that this shit goes down? Because sometimes I think it's just like so obvious. And you do have to be careful. Like you really, really should. But like maybe in that situation, you trusted your instincts, you know, and you could tell like this was like a normal dude. I don't know. But like, you know, maybe, you know, don't do Craigslist right now. Especially that you're not having orgasms. Like what a waste if you died for what a thousand bucks you didn't even come no kidding

no forget it just do the find one guy find like a sugar daddy situation that's what you should do do you know what I mean seriously I mean most people would say Kathy tell her she should find a good boyfriend

and stop escort and stuff but like I don't think you're ready for that I don't think that that's in the cards for you so I think and I think you need to you need a little cash flow on the side And you need for that part of yourself to be fed, your ego to be fed and have that one guy. And you need to do it in the safest way possible.

And I think if you had that, you wouldn't do these crazy things like just go on Craigslist and do random stuff if you had that one guy, right? Don't you think? No, yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. So that should be your top priority. Okay? Because all the other stuff you're doing, you write, you're doing, you know, you're creating

your online presence so that you could do consulting eventually. That is just a matter of time. Those things you've got under wraps. Right now, you just focus all your time and finding like a straight up, you know, booty call situation that's like it turns into like a sugar daddy situation for you. And you'll be happy. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. For a couple of years or a year.

Who knows? I don't know with you. I think maybe like a year you'd be happy or six months. Yeah. I don't know for a long, long term. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's probably about like a year would be like the rest of your life.

I understand. I'm the same way. That's why I said that. So, you know, we're going to get an update from you and see. six months, okay, because shit's going to go down and I'm going to want to hear about it. So keep me posted. I will. Okay.

And don't get caught or don't get in any kind of trouble. And don't get murdered. No, I'll do my best. Okay. Be careful. All right, Georgia. Thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. It's fascinating to me.

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