Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1565 - Shayna Smokeshow Went From Totally Vanilla to Hotwifing, Sex Parties & More

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

Shayna Smokeshow calls in to talk all about how she went from being extremely vanilla with her husband of over 25 years to hotwifing, sex parties, threesomes, creating content and more. Tune in to hear why she had so little interest in sex for most of her life, how and why she went on HRT and what changed afterwards, the lifestyle resort they visited and what she discovered about herself while there, how her breast augmentation affected her confidence, what they started looking for when they joined lifestyle apps, their first sex party and what went down, the first single guy they met for an MFM threesome and how far they went, why her husband started filming her experiences, the hotwife party that changed things for them and what happened that weekend, how and why they eventually started sharing their videos, what they both get out of hotwifing and creating content, how Shayna feels about seeing her husband with other women and a whole lot more. You can find her on Onlyfans, Manvids, Fansly and X @ShaynaSmokeshow GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  or Pre-order audiobook version ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To see HOT pics of SHAYNA SMOKESHOW plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beduc.at/pd2630-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized SUMMER roadmap to sexual happiness  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://VB.HEALTH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- To get 10% off DRIVE BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or a Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much. Is your real problem? Do your friend know that you're banging her or no? No, he has no idea.

And anything goes. Motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because they change everyone's voices and names.

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SDC.com, I do have a free trial for my listeners. SDC is like the world's largest online dating website and it's not just a place where you could hook up with people. You could learn all about the lifestyle. You could find out about all the lifestyle events and meetups and all kinds of things going on in your neighborhood as well as if you're going to travel and you want to have a little fun. You're going to find it all on SDC.com. Like I said, you get a free trial if you use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link that's 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Hey, today I have a great story on Shana Smoke Show. That's her name. Shana Smoke Show. If you want to check her out, she's on X as Shana Smoke Show. She's all over the place

as Shana Smoke Show. And she has a very interesting story, okay, because she, like, married her high school sweetheart. She's been with her husband for like 25 years. She'd always, her and her husband had been with like barely anyone else before each other. And they were very vanilla even when they were together. I mean, she really lost her sex drive, but barely had any even before she lost it. Okay. She had never even jerked off. She was a very, like, repressed, kind of. of woman and then I don't know what it was I think maybe was the HRT I asked her at the end like would you blame all this on the HRT she went on HRT and she got really fucking horny and then they just started talking about things and they wound up going to like a lifestyle resort not doing anything but that

led them to eventually going online and looking to enter into the lifestyle and they fucking entered into it I mean I think it was like her first story she did DVP or you know she said at some point like when they actually commit to something they go full like they go like really into it 100% and they do so they got into going online looking for couples it was hard to find couples so that i think the first the first experience was with a single guy they were doing threesomes and then they got really into hot wifing her her guy loves seeing her with other guys he was always videotaping everything they went to some hot wafing party she tells those stories she tells a lot of hot wifing stories and now they do couple swaps. I mean, they're not just into the lifestyle thing. They do couple swaps. She fucked dark chocolate

and fun Charlie, who's been on my show, because eventually over time, after they did this for a few years, they decided to do content. Her husband always loved taping. They do content. She does a lot of hot wiping content. She talks about what she enjoys and gets off on doing content. She loves talking to the guys that email her. She's very much an exhibitionist. Her husband loves all the attention she gets from the guys. He's really into it and they're still like I said fucking couples and going to like uh lifestyle resorts and doing that as well in their other life so they do the content creating now but they're still in the lifestyle doing more than hot wifing uh on the side she also you know her husband also sleeps with women and she watches and she's been with women and she talks about her experience with fun charlie

i think was the first woman she's with she's got a lot of stories and it's super interesting the whole thing because she went from like one end of the spectrum to the other okay dvP first experience from vanilla to DVP and her first three-sum. I mean, she's super hardcore. She's hot. Okay, I got pictures over on my Patreon and you could see her. I'll put her link to her link tree in the description, but you're going to love her story. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Shana. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Ah, hey, Shana Smoke Show. Shana Smoke Show. S, that's your name. Shana Smoke Show. I like it. That's your only fan's name or something, you're like, do some content now, but you were not like,

someone that was ever destined to do content, right? Considering like where you come from? Correct. And who you've been and your backstory? Oh my God, you started out. I'm going to give the very short story and then you're going to fucking get into it, okay, because you have like a great interesting story because you're very, like, first of all, you and your guy are like high school sweethearts, right? Married since the de forever. But very vanilla. Like, like the both of you. And your sex drive like went out of the window, I went out the window over time. I mean, you're going to explain all that. And then HRT comes into the picture. Then you're fucking horny. And then you guys like go to resorts. And then you're like just looking around like, you know,

lifestyle resorts, but you're not doing anything. And then somehow you go to a party. Then you start doing things. And then you're fucking hotwifing. And now you're creating content. I mean, it's like really like you lived a whole lifetime in a very, I don't know how long this, the time that we're talking about spans. but it's like you've kind of been there, done that everything. Yes. In the last three years. Three years. Yes.

You've been there, done that. But I mean, I'm saying you did other, like you've had many lives in what would we say the past, like how long you've been married for? Over 25 years. Right. Well, over 25 years. Yeah. So you've had like many, you know, you've been through a lot in your life.

And it's super interesting where you wind up considering you were so vanilla. So why don't we start off with like. how vanilla you are, how you, and then get into how you lost your sex drive and, like, how you got it back. Okay. Well, so my hubby Jay and I, we were high school sweethearts. And we had each had one previous sexual partner in our entire lifetime before we got together. And we lived a very, very straight lace, very conservative life. We sat in the church pew every single Sunday morning. We were not very sexually adventurous, you know, probably because we had had no previous experience. And neither one of us were taught a lot about sexuality at home. I don't think anybody ever learned about sex at home.

I mean, do people tell their kids now more so about toys, like how to use toys? I don't think anybody ever gets that lesson at home, really. No, not at all. No, I don't believe that they do. Yeah, yeah, go on, though. But you didn't even jerk off, right? Like, you weren't even masturbating. No, I did not masturbate at all. You know, I thought it was probably like a lot of people that are that way, just almost dirty, right? Because it was not something that I was ever taught that that's the way that I could derive a lot of, you know, sexual pleasure from. Yeah, it's always interesting to me that you didn't figure that out on your own when you were alone in your room. But it's, but, you know, everyone's different.

You know, you had never ever in your life masturbated your whole life. No, my whole life I did not masturbate. Wow, interesting. I mean, like, as a young child, maybe I would, you know, touch there just to see what it felt like. But no, not to derive any pleasure from that area. Yeah, I get it. And even when you're with your husband, things don't change because he comes kind of from the same background, right? So you're still both very vanilla together.

Yes. Yeah, we were absolutely vanilla together. No toys. We didn't even watch porn together. You know, he would try to touch me, you know, and, you know, and, you would try to touch me, you know, in my clitoral area and I would still like shy away even after we'd been married years and years and years. Wow.

Would you let him go down on you? No, not really. I mean, he may have a few times, but I just didn't think that that's exactly where I would derive the pleasure from. You know, I always thought that it was going to be through intercourse, that that's how you were supposed to fill the pleasure. Right, right. You're just thinking that it's from real sex, right?

Like, and were you, were you orgasming through like that kind of sex? Through vaginal sex? Yeah. Yes. Every once in a while. Yes, I would orgasm through vaginal sex. Okay, but even when you wouldn't, you wouldn't go to your clit or anything. You never tried anything else.

So it was only like vaginal orgasms you thought were like available. Correct. Yes. Interesting. And it's always interesting to me and we'll get back to your story. But like real quick, like on the couple of times that he did go down on you, weren't you like this is like the greatest thing ever? Or was it that you had like never really wired your clit into like, you know,

orgasming in that way by being touched that you just, it wasn't that pleasurable? Yes. I had not been wired that way. So when he would try to go down on me or do anything, I didn't derive pleasure from it because I thought that, you know, that I was supposed to get most of my pleasure through. But I mean,

I just didn't feel. I know what you thought, but I'm like just like your clit, like his mouth. on your clit, him going down on you. It didn't feel good. Like you didn't actually feel a pleasure? No, because I wouldn't even let him stay there that long. Oh, interesting. Okay, that's the key. So it wasn't like he'd go down on you and go to town. He would try to and you'd push him away because you're like, I got to get my orgasm some other way. You wouldn't even bother trying. Right. Wow. Okay.

You've come a long way. We'll get to it. So you're, so you guys are vanilla and then you have kids and everything and you lose your libido even more, right? Because it doesn't sound like you have much of one before. No, I didn't have much of one before. And after kids and, you know, a career, it just absolutely spiraled. But I didn't want him to be happy. So, you know, we would still have sex, you know, pretty regular. But, you know, I think he knew how I felt. Right. Like you were doing it for him because he's your husband and you knew that he still wanted sex, but you were not enjoying it. And there's nothing more not hot than that kind of sex, right? Even for the guy, you know, unfortunately. Oh, exactly. Yeah, unfortunately. I mean, listen, I give you credit that you still took it for the team,

right, for your husband, right? Because you knew that like he was still horny and you weren't, but it's still, you know, it's, that's a tough thing to do because it's not like hot when the other person isn't really into it. And you could tell. You can't, you can't hide that, you know? Right. But I still wanted to do it. And I, and wanted him to be into me, and I still loved him, and I was into him. I was just not having, you know, the sexual feelings that, you know, most women or a lot of women have. Right.

Interesting. Because they know their bodies. Because they know their bodies. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But you didn't because you had ever played with yourself. I mean, nothing. Yeah.

Right. Mm-hmm. Okay. Keep going. So after kids and after career. And then as I got older, you know, I become more and more tired, irritable, moody. I'm sleep deprived. I have a foggy brain, zero sex drive.

And it took me a few years even to seek medical attention for that. Right. And so I turned to my gynecologist. You know, she was aware of my symptoms, but we had never, like, had an in-depth conversation about it because I wasn't very open to it. And she knew that I wasn't. And she knows that I'm a health care professional. And so it just took me a way. while to decide that it was time to resolve these issues for myself.

And so she checked my levels and she decided to put me on the hormone replacement therapy to optimize my hormones. Right. And so that took several months to kick in. But eventually, you know, I started sleeping better. I had more energy. And then just like one day, like my sex drive just finally came back to life. and I was watching something on television and I decided that, you know, I was going to try to

touch myself. I was watching, you know, people have sex on TV. I'm like, you know, this is acting. How are these people enjoying this much? And so I decided to touch myself and had a little bit of cultural stimulation and realized, oh my gosh, I need this in my life. Oh, my God, what was I missing all this time? Exactly. Right. Oh, my God. Okay, go on. And so I didn't tell my husband what I had done, but after, you know, a little bit, he kind of caught on that, wow, what is going on with her? Because I could not get enough sex. Right. I could not get enough, you know, I started letting him touch my clit and go down on me.

And just no amount of stimulation was enough. Wow. Isn't that so interesting? So it shows that, like, maybe there was more than just like there was other things going on. Like maybe you did have like something going on with your hormones that made you like not so sensitive in that area too on top of it besides the repression and all that other stuff because like once you kicked in and got on HRT like your clit was totally fine and enjoyed it just like it it you know it should right there's so many nerve endings in it yes and it was so nice to have

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Exactly. So go on. So we started introducing like new sex toys, positions, you know, a little bit of like bondage. You know, we learned a lot about each other and became a lot closer, you know, right after this started happening. Yeah, I could imagine. Because, you know, sex is like a form of intimacy, right? It's not just sex, especially in a long-term relationship.

Yes, and it was an intimacy that we had never had before. So it was like almost starting over, you know, like high school sweethearts again. Yeah, how exciting considering, you know, you've been with the same person, you know, at that point, it's like all downhill. But not for you guys. It's like all of a sudden it's like the start of something new. It's like pretty major. Okay. I mean, you wind up like, listen, you're like hot wiping now.

So let's like, okay, so you're on it. You're horny. And you wind up at like the first thing you guys do is go to this like resort, right? Like a lifestyle resort, right? Yes. We did go to a lifestyle resort because we were looking to have a spicy vacation. But with no, no, it was like nothing was on the table to happen. right like you guys weren't going there to hook up with other people correct correct we had no

interest in the lifestyle aspect of the resort we knew there would be lifestyle people there and it would probably likely be mostly lifestyle people we did not meet any vanilla people we were there but we were mainly just looking for a sexually charged atmosphere yeah okay cool and you got it right yeah so we definitely got it we were so nervous when we are on the flight and then on the lay there. We couldn't even look at each other or speak or anything. So it was definitely interesting once we got there. I give you credit though. Like as nervous as you guys were as vanilla as your history was, right? And as much as you guys like didn't want to do anything when you got there, you still fucking went, which I think is like pretty ballsy if you ask me. That was the hormones

driving. We're in everything together. So yes. Yeah, I don't know. A huge move for us. Yeah, who was the driver of like, let's fucking go. I don't care that we were nervous. Like, who was the pressure of that vacation? You were him. we actually both were we so we decided we were going to do you know a fun vacation and so we both did research and we narrowed it down to a few places and that one appeared to be the most spicy one and we were both almost too embarrassed to tell each other that that's the one we both wanted to try but we finally sat down and had the conversation you know it's like no you go first no you go first you tell me because you know i'm okay with anything and then you know we we both settled on on this one resort you know to go to. See, but that's the key. That other, that's what people need to take from, you know, your story. Like, just a little bit of a communication. Honest communication goes a long way, right? You both decided to put it on the table like, yeah, let's go to this like really hardcore place. Even though we're not going to do anything. Like, that's, that's where I want to go. And you realize the other person wanted to go there too. But you knew that you're going to go there, but you're not going, you're just going to be vanilla

of people at a lifestyle resort. Yes, and each of us had never seen another naked person besides our own each first sexual partner because we were each other's second partner. Right. So to see nude people, I mean, that was just going to be a driver in and of itself.

It was just a whole brand new experience for both of us. Yeah, uh-huh. Prior to this vacation, you know, I was a very private and I felt like a wallflower that's all I wanted to be. I didn't want to be noticed or seen. I didn't even take nudes or selfies or send them to send to my husband. Right. Okay. Like modest. You're a very modest person. I was very, modest. Yes. So you went in there saying, okay, I'm going to go. I'll go in a bathing suit, but I'm not getting naked or anything. But your husband wanted you to go to Topless, right?

Yes. That was one of the things that he hoped that I would do by the end of the vacation. Yeah. Was actually just taking my top off. but it didn't take too long. By the end of the first day, I already had my top off and was trying to let go of a lot of the inhibitions that I still held.

Especially like the body image and the sexuality still. Yeah, well, you have a killer body, right? Because you're like a hardcore, like working out person, right? So, but you still had body image issues? I did. So before, several months ago, several months ago I had a breast augmentation.

Uh-huh. And so I was very flat chested. And so I had always been almost embarrassed of that because I didn't feel like a woman, which, you know, may have also previously played into my decreased sexuality earlier on in my life. Right. You didn't see yourself as feminine. And yeah, that kind of. No, I did not see myself as feminine.

Just because you didn't have like boobs? Yes. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's hardcore. Sure. So the breast augmentation really changed. It was more than just a physical change for you. Yes. And even though it was more recent, it was definitely a huge mental boost for me. And it made me feel like a woman even more. Yeah. And that's amazing. Than stepping into the lifestyle and finding my sexuality. It just enhanced my sexuality. It was something that I had wanted since I was a teenager.

Yeah. So why not? Go for it. And I just would never take the steps, especially since, you know, I didn't want. want to be seen anyway, so why did it really even matter in the end? But now I'm very glad to have moved forward and made that decision. Right. But when you're at this resort, you don't have your breast augmentation yet, but you do wind up taking your top off and you felt comfortable enough by the end of the first day, which is pretty major. Yes, they did feel comfortable enough. Yeah, okay, go on. So once we did get there and before the tops came off, there was definitely, you know, the panic moment that we had as a couple. We're both looking around and wondering,

oh my gosh, what the fuck are we doing here? But we did meet some very friendly people very quickly. People in the lifestyle tend to be very open to conversation. And we had met a lot of people on this trip while we were there. And people were very genuine and open. And they seemed very respectful. And I guess when you have your tops off, there's really not a whole lot you can't talk about.

Right. But they were all welcoming. But did you put it on the table like words like vanilla people? Like didn't you sort of like put that on the table the whole time you were there? The whole time we're there, yes. Because anybody you speak with generally is going to ask you straight off if you are in the lifestyle or if you are vanilla. Right. And you guys wanted people to know.

We could never get vanilla out of our mouth fast enough. Exactly. I remember that from the email. I'm like, you know, I think that was so a funny part of your email. You guys still, though, wanted people to know you're not, like, going any further. Like, don't even think about it. But you met a lot of people and had a good time, right? And you did wind up, like, realizing you were into things, right, about the lifestyle?

Yes. We realized that we enjoyed having sex out in the open and being exhibitionists. I learned that I love to watch other people. It is just very fascinating to see other people's pleasure. we would go to the hot tub at night and people in the hot tub around would be having sex and I saw my first woman kiss another woman while I was there and so everything was a little shocking but it was all exciting at the same time right and so did you guys have like the best sex ever the the whole time you were there the whole time yeah I could imagine and even going home right

I mean, as you get back, what happens after that? Because you wind up in the lifestyle doing things, right? Right. So on the way home, we started a conversation about joining the lifestyle just so that we could add even more spice to our already spicy sex life. And then once we got home, we started researching and educating ourselves about the lifestyle. There was a lot of stuff to learn. There was a lot of acrony. and vocabulary terms and that we just didn't speak about, you know, in the vanilla life.

So there was a huge learning curve and we had had some friends that we met at the resort and we're still in touch with them today and, you know, they kind of helped us along the way. We joined SDC after they recommended we do that, which, so that we could start connecting with other people. And now I got to give out my code for SDC because they're my favorite online adult website that I always, like that I partnered up with. And they actually gave me, when you say you had to remember, know, figure out all the acronyms and stuff.

They actually gave me their whole like, I don't know what is it called, like a glossary. And I added it to the beginning of my book because, you know, I'm like regular vanilla. People don't know what half these terms mean, but I got them from SDC. And I do give people a code for a free trial for SDC.com. You just use 37712 or go to the description, click on the link you get into SDC.

So now you guys go on SDC and you're in there. What are you thinking to do? So originally, once we joined online, we were starting to look at finding couples. And within a month, we ended up being invited out to a house party for fit couples. It was a huge house on the lake. It had a huge pool house that was way bigger than ours. And before we went, we wanted to know if it was a DTF party, a down-the-fug party, because we knew that this being our first experience stepping out in a lifestyle,

that likely that might not be for us quite yet. We didn't want any pressure. Yeah. So the person who invited us said, oh, no, it's definitely not a DTF party. So we felt like it would be a great place to start. It'd be a small group. And so we got there and there were about 10 to 15, very fit, very beautiful people and couples. They ranged in their 30s to 50s.

And I actually ran into somebody that I went to high school with at the, at the party, so that was very eye-opening. Oh, my God. That's kind of crazy. Right. But once you're in the lifestyle, you kind of realize if you know, you know, and most people want to be discreet. What did the person

do when they saw, you know, what was that reaction real quick of the both of you? Oh, we were both shocked. We just had a regular conversation like nothing was going on in that we were any other birthday party or

you know, anniversary party or anything like that. Nobody talked about the elephant in the room. Nobody was like... No, we completely avoided that. Oh my God, nobody is. This is why people think I'm crazy because I think it's like I would be like,

first thing I would be like, oh my God, I can't believe you're a fucking swing or two and you're here and I'm here, you know what I mean? But I'm not the norm. Most people are like you. They just wouldn't even fucking bring it up. Even though it's so obvious. It's so funny.

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Register today at pmcfwalk.ca.ca.com.com. Right, exactly. That's so funny. Just another outing. That's great. Okay, go on. we stayed at the party for a while everybody was just mingling in the house you know having some snacks and drinks and it was still daylight when we got there it's summer in texas so you know the sun

stays out a long time and once it started getting dark things got pretty dirty so it definitely turned out to be a dTF party there were strobe lights flashing in the house like two sooms three soloms and more solmes. We were overwhelmed, so we did not partake in any of that, but we did enjoy watching it. And my husband Jay, he ate me out on the side of the pool, and we ended up fucking one another next to another couple. So by the end of the night, I found myself I was looking in one of the windows because all of the shades are up. And there is a woman getting double penetrated. And I'm sitting there wide open, my mouth, my eyes are wide open, my mouth.

my mouth is wide open. And then I have a stranger's hand on my ass and my husband's on the other side of me. And it was just a crazy way to start into the lifestyle together. Yeah. Okay. When you're watching her, was that like a turn on? It was a turn on. Even though I didn't ever think that I would enjoy watching somebody get anal in any way, former fashion.

But yes, it was a huge turn on. You know, there was just a lot of things still that that we weren't accustomed to. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. So, so we started off with looking for the couples, like I had said previously. And we learned really fast that finding a four-way connection was incredibly difficult. Totally.

So we looked, you know, for months, we would like schedule something and something would fall through. And so Jay finally approached me about possibly, meeting a single male and being a stagg vixen couple and trying to have an MFM. He said that, you know, there was no point in searching for couples if you couldn't watch me fuck another guy anyway.

So we invited a single male out for drinks one evening and I felt selfish because I wanted our experience to be, you know, an equal experience. I felt that, you know,

I was going to have something more pleasurable than him, but we finally, you know, agreed to do it. And once we met the single mail out, we went to a bar across town because we never wanted to do anything near home because we didn't want to get outed in any way. And this gentleman was,

he was very nice looking. He could hold a conversation, and he was incredibly confident. And so we chatted for, probably chatted for an hour or so, which probably isn't terribly normal for those types. encounters maybe, I thought.

And so we decided that we were going to try this. So we took the gentleman back to the room and he was very, he was very sexually creative. We started off with them. Can I just ask you a quick question? Were there

any rules going into this hook up with a guy? Because this is your first time fucking anybody but your husband. You guys still hadn't been with a couple or done anything. So this is the first time you guys were going to be non-monogamous, really. Like, was there any kind of discussion of any kind of boundaries or rules?

Boundaries or rules. I mean, I did not have any limitations put forth for having an MFM, just whatever my preference were for the experience. Right. It wasn't like no kissing, no this, none of that shit was on the table. No, I was allowed. Kissing was fine. Okay, cool. That was fine.

Okay. Mainly it was just my preferences to a, avoid. So like, you know, I didn't do anal, you know, mainly that's the one, you know, my one big no. Yeah, okay. So anything like golden showers, anything, anything spitting. At that point in time, I wasn't interested in anything rough at all just because I hadn't quite experienced that yet or come into that being. Okay. So basically no real rules or boundaries or anything. You're going in. It's a free for all. Your husband's going to be joining you. And you're going to take. take the lead, right? It's whatever you're into. Was the guy like your type, like what were you

like, what, we paid the picture of the guy. How old was he and were you attracted to him? He was in his 40s as well. I'm in my late 40s. He was, he was taller than me. He was very fit. He was Latin American. He was hung. And he was a very sensual person, which I did not expect. Right. Obviously, you haven't been with a lot of people, so you, right, if your husband's not that type, you know, you wouldn't know, you wouldn't know what to do with it. Like, it's something you never experienced. Right. Right. It was a whole brand new, central, exciting, very erotic experience. And he had apparently a lot of experience because we ended up in so many different positions, it was almost like going through the Kama Sutra.

But he was very fluid with everything. Everything flowed. That's amazing. It was an amazing first experience. I mean, it definitely set the bar for the next person. Yeah, I don't know how people are going to, you know, live up to him because it's one thing to go through all the different things and moves and change things up, but also to be like in a total flow and do it like seamlessly is are not easy.

thing to do, you know? No, it's not. And, you know, we let him take the lead with that. My husband was completely involved in everything. He's a straight male, so, you know, there wasn't any male-on-mail action of any kind. But, you know, he kind of led, he led the situation because when we were speaking with him in the bar, he met with us because we found out later because this was our first time, or we said it was our first time, which it was.

But I'm pretty sure some people don't believe you when you say that. Well, most people wouldn't lie about that. I think that sometimes, you know, people want to make sure that first timers are going to be okay with it, that they're cool. You know what I mean? Because some people won't even see first timers because there could be issues. Right. And we had had some males decline us because of that.

Yeah, for sure. Because you just don't know what you're walking into. You don't know if you're going to walk into a total shit show with couples, right? Yeah, a lot of times you do. Especially the first time, you don't know. how each of them is going to react. Yeah, you don't know that the woman's not there because her husband wants to. You don't know a lot of things, so a lot of people, some people won't even do it.

So I could get why he wanted to meet you. But do you do like spit roasting and like all those kind of things? Like what went down in that threesome? So yes, there was spit roasting. We even managed to work in double that penetration DVP for the first, yeah, for the first experience, which was, I didn't even realize was a thing. Well, you realize it because you saw that lady doing it. I was going to say, did you do that?

But I was like, there's no way she did that first time. Like when you said when we commit to something, we just go all in, you do. Yes, we do. I mean, first time you do it. And that hasn't happened too many times after. It doesn't matter. You did it the first time. I high five you for that shit.

You went for it. That was crazy. How was it? Oh, it was amazing. It felt absolutely. amazing. Right. Okay, cool. The whole experience was, it was very erotic. Right. How long did it last? And like nothing I had ever experienced or my husband had ever experienced. And I think he knew that I had a great time and he had a great time. And did that lead you to do more of like the hot wifing thing moving

forward because couples were so hard to find and this was such a great experience? We did the MFM thing and we would eventually got to where we could connect with couples, but we did the MFM thing for a while. And then, yes, that eventually led into the hot whacking experience. Jay realized that he really, that he did like to share me. He loved how men looked at me and complimented me and seemed to want what he had. So that eventually led into him asking me if I wanted to be a hot wife. wife. Right. And how is that different being a hot wife than just having these threesomes? Like what was what like what was going to change moving forward if you were a hot wife? Was he not going to be

involved? Was he going to sit there a watch? Were you going to play solo? So with our MFMs, with the consent of the single males, we would film. Okay. And so with hot wifing, it's just you and another male. Your husband's not involved. That's the difference. Solo experience. Correct. Right. And husband is not involved. Yeah. but he's still preferred to film it so that we could have that. Yeah, a lot of guys do that on the side for hotwifing because literally the reason why he's into it is because your pleasure is his pleasure, right? Yes. So he wants to be there.

He loves me, please. He likes the release that I get. I work an incredibly stressful job where it requires complete perfection with everything that I do. So these encounters. They just let me let everything go. Yeah, that's probably amazing for you. Yes. Yeah, and for him to see you in that role.

His conversion allows me, you know, to get that sexual pleasure. And, you know, the sexuality that I had, you know, I had tamped down and kept in need for so long. Yeah, not realizing that this was like your key to happiness and relaxation and exactly what you need after a long, hard day of your job, of your work. Yeah. Okay, imagine, I don't know what you do for a living, but imagine the people of the office realizing what the fuck you're doing out of the office. It would be frowned upon. Of course. Okay, go on.

So now you're going to do hotwifing. And so how were the, tell me some of those experiences. Well, he first, Jay first, wanted to see what it would look like me being a hot wife. So we decided to attend a hot wife party. Oh, interesting. You're locally. Okay. Was it Splash Moka?

No, an individual puts the party on. Okay, cool. And there's usually, you know, a couple hundred guests, and it's hot wives and very single, attractive. Some of them may not be single, but attractive males that attend the party. And so. And they're the bulls. And the husbands. Could I just ask you a quick question?

Did you find that party through friends or through SDC? Because I feel like people listening would be like, you know, how do you find out about these kind of parties and get invited to them? We found out through SDC. Yeah, that's what I always say. Like what's great about these websites. And SDC isn't the only one, just the one that you can get free trial through me, but there's other ones.

But like what's great about them is that they have all of this stuff. It's more than just a pickup place, right? Like you find out where these events are and these parties and meetups and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, go on. And you can join different groups. Yep. And then you're in the know. You can make a larger network for your lifestyle experiences.

Yeah, totally. Okay, so how was that? So walk me through that whole experience at that hot wife party. So when you attend the party, they have a host hotel and the party is at a house. And so you get shuttled from the hotel to the house. shuttle runs constantly, back and forth, back and forth. And the first evening, we're standing out there. There's a couple of women, and they refer to it as the sluttle.

The what? So the sluttle. The sluttle? Instead of like a, what is that? Instead of the shuttle. Oh. Oh. That's fucking great.

So you got on the sluttle. That is so fucking funny. Okay, go on. So we make our way. to the house and there's theme nights and the first night is pajama night so i'm in my sexy pajamas and we're mingling and i meet three different men that evening and have a really nice time with each of them and you know jay watches and decides if that's something like he's really into and so we go back to the hotel and you know he's like yeah i think we can do this and then the next day

we go back to the party and I'm sitting out there waiting for the sluttle and the exact same three men that I'd been with the night before show up to ride the sluttle to the party with me. Oh my God. Okay. You're in there. How's it set up? How many guys did you sleep with? Like, what did you do?

Where's your husband? So my husband, you know, he stays pretty close around me just because it's a whole brand new experience for both of us. That second evening, I enjoy a nice time with two other gentlemen. The house, there's two different. houses on the property. There's, you know, one room that has beds set up several beds so that if, you know, you want to have sex out in the open, you can have sex out in the open. There are several bedrooms there and then there's a pool house there as well. Right. How many guys did you

fuck the first and second time? So three, the first night and two the next. And were they the same guys? No, they were different guys. Okay. And how were all those experiences? Well, It was really almost nerve-wracking, you know, being solo the first time just because I'm concerned about, you know, my husband. I just want to make sure that he's okay. But I also want to have a good time myself. But during the experiences I look over, he gives me reassuring looks. And I have very great experiences with, with all the men that I'm there with.

So you're fucking all these guys. Is your guy on the sideline? Like, are they all like, all, like, women around you doing the same thing? and then all the husbands on the sideline watching. Is that like what the scene is if I was a fly on the wall? If you were a fly on the wall, yes. And sometimes the husband's joined. So Jay joined me for one of my sessions.

Oh, interesting. Yes. I mean, it just depends on what everybody's open to and what they're looking for. Right. But mostly the husbands are there. They're watching. And sometimes they join in. And there are like tons of single guys walking around and they're available as like

bulls in the scenario. Yes, it is a house full of bulls is what it is. Are the guys hot? Are the bulls hot? They are smoking hot. Really? So that's where like it's cream of the crop. Yes, absolutely.

These parties do bring in the cream of the crop and they get bigger and bigger every year. Oh, wow. What area are these parties in that you went to? Can you say the general area? They're in the Houston area. Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk.

Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca.ca. Okay, good to know. Okay, cool. So you did a bunch of guys that weekend. You know, your husband, I'm assuming, had fun. Yes, he did have a great time.

And we decided after that that we were going to go into the hot wife route. And then eventually we got into creating the content for the hot wife. Right. Because he's videotaping you before all of this anyway, just because he's into it, right? And that's how it typically starts out why people start content. A lot of times people are like, oh, we don't want to listen to the people that do content. They're just doing it for the money. It's like, no, most of these people that,

are doing content. Listen, some people start doing content to make money, but a lot of people who are doing content are people that had a whole library of content before. Now they're just monetizing it because you can, right? I mean, your husband has been taping you and your experiences way before you started to do content, right? Right, but we don't share any of our previous content. Right, I get it, but he was always videotaping anyway. And so he then says, He was videotaping. He had his bank of material. And so we decided that, yes, we would just jump into it ourselves.

And no, it is definitely not for the money. It is for, this is like a hobby. It's something that I do for enjoyment. Like I said earlier, I kind of learned that I liked the exhibitionism side of it. So this is my, you know, jump into being a true exhibitionist, putting everything out there except for my face. Right. So you don't put your face, but like do you, and let me ask you this, does what, like, what does your husband get out of it? Is it the fact that he is now sharing you, not just with one guy, but with many guys? Yes, he actually likes the fan aspect of it. Yeah. So he does like sharing me with, you know, the man that I'm shooting with or the people that I'm shooting with. Yeah. But he learned through this that his biggest fascination is with the fans and the people who watch and message and what they have to say.

and messing me back and forth and enjoying that sexy aspect of the content creation. Right. So that is his favorite part of it. Yeah. And so, and he, so those, that conversation, like all that stuff that goes on between you and these guys, like your guy gets off on that interaction? He loves the interaction, yes. He does get off on the interaction because of the compliments and the interest and

the conversations. So yes, he does, he enjoys, he enjoys that part of it. Yeah, and you enjoy it as well? I do enjoy it, yes. It's a lot of fun. And sometimes it's a little overwhelming just because of the aspect of balancing work and family and then content. But overall, yes, I have a great time producing content and the interactions with all the people and how supportive people are. It's been a great experience.

What did you join? Only fans? Fansley, like where are you at? And we'll put a link later, but I just want to have way more questions. But what site did you join? So I am Shana Smok Show at X, at Fansley, at mini-vids, and on OF. Okay, cool. So making that decision, was that hard for you to do? Were you like, that's fine because I'm not going to put my face in it? Like, I mean, do you ever worry about people finding out who you are? I do somewhat worry about people finding out who I am and it did take me a while to completely decide to jump in. So I think we had like accounts set up in August of 2025 and didn't actually start putting myself out there until November.

So it took a little bit to decide if I was truly ready to go all in or not. Yeah, well, I just go to your ex and I see. that you fucked, did you fuck fun Charlie and Doc Chalkland? I did. I love them.

So, yeah. Which came first. Like you listening to my show and meeting them or you knew them and then they sent you to my show. Or was it just a coincidence? Oh, no. I knew of your show before

hot wiping began. Yeah, okay, but so how do you wind up? Your show for a long time. Yeah, and so then how do you wind up with them through my show just like through the lifestyle because it is a small world. Through the lifestyle. We've been in contact on X with one another and then we ended up at that same Houston

house party. Oh, no way. So they come and visit that house party pretty regularly so we met up there. Did you fuck Doc Chocolate? I did fuck Doc Chocolate. Now do you hook up with chicks at all or no? Yes, I do. Fun Charlie was also part of that experience, the first experience.

with Doc Chocolate. Yeah, because she really likes women, but she wants to be with a woman that's like really into women. I know that about Charlie. She's, you know what I mean? So you had your first experience with her? I had my first experience with one other creator, but my second experience was with Charlie. Oh my God. How was it? It was great. I had a fantastic time with her. She is, she is a very sensual kisser. And once I get started kissing somebody and know that they can kiss well, and the hands were in all the right places. So we had a great time. And Doc watched us play around for about five or ten minutes, I think, before he finally

jumped in the scene. Oh, my God. That's crazy. All my guests are fucking each other. So when you started to do content, that's what happened. Like, you went out and started looking for other content creators as opposed to using like your bulls that you were sleeping with on the side. Because the people that you're with in the videos, they have to like have their own accounts,

too, right, for them to be in the videos? Yes, they have to have their own accounts. They have to be willing to sign the paperwork. So the content creators, they know all of the ends now. They know about the testing. So it's just a lot easier to create content with somebody who knows how to create content. I love being with bulls that are not in content, but it is a big ask to ask somebody to sign up for all of these sites and sign all the paperwork. And it just tends to get more and more tedious.

And then once you start doing paperwork, it kind of starts taking the sexiness out of it. So my preference is to keep my lifestyle separate from my content. Right, right. So you still have your people, you're still doing, and now in your private life, are you guys still just doing hotwifing? Are you doing couples too? We do, we do in our lifestyle, since I do so much hotwifing and content creation, we generally do couples or MFMs.

And how are the couples for you? Like, do you enjoy seeing your guy, fuck another woman? He is way more compulsive than I am. Okay. So I don't mind him fucking another woman, but I don't have to sit there and like watch intently. I don't necessarily draw my pleasure from that. Yeah.

But I enjoy that he is having a good time. Right. And he deserves to have a great time with all that he has given me in this whole process. Right. So you don't get jealous, but you also don't get turned on. Not very. Yeah. That's okay.

That's honest of you. I mean, some people are wired into that and some people aren't, you know, but it's cool that you, are okay with him playing as well, you know. Is he the type of guy, though, that prefers the hot wiping thing, or does he just like it all? I think he likes it all. Yeah. Right.

So you guys... That there's any preference to any one thing that we do. Yeah. It's just a mood. Yeah, that's interesting. Some people, listen, a lot of times guys are like very just like into hot wiping. They don't want to fuck other women. They only want to see the room with another guy.

But you guys sound much more like well-rounded in that. You're really in the lifestyle and you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, You know, you do a lot of different things, not just the hot wiping. I mean, you're into the hot wiping and you do that kind of content, but you also are very much in the lifestyle and going to lifestyle parties and all that kind of stuff, right? Yes, we are very much into the lifestyle and enjoy the lifestyle aspect of our lives. Right. And do you have like a favorite?

So, yeah, in the lifestyle, we still go to the same place to vacation every summer. Oh. There's a. What do you do there now, though? Is it that same place that you went to the first time, but you fuck now, other people when you come? exactly you're kidding we have a very we have a very different experience there now and not not quite the same as we did the first time right and so is it we have a local place that we hit uh-huh like a swingers club or a party there's a local place that has a pool that we're able to get out and

get optional and have a good time there it's clothing optional place and we tend to meet a lot of people out there and it's the same group sometimes so you know we have an eye rapport with people and then there's people that are new. So it's a great place to to stay and visit. We go there probably five or six times a year. How many guys do you think you fucked now that you like opened up your marriage? Because you were like a girl that married like the second guy you were with.

Like now how many guys do you think you've been with? I don't have enough fingers in toast again. More than 20 less than 100? Yes, definitely. Yes, we'll leave it at that. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, that's crazy. Isn't that crazy? I'm like only on my show. Someone else's body count was like that. Only on my show does body count go up after someone gets married as opposed to down. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Look, yes. It went up exponentially. Yeah. What do you prefer? Like what is your favorite thing to do? Like do you love like the threesome with a guy? Do you like, you know, the couple swap? Do you love the hot wiping? Do you love it all? I don't know. You tell me.

I like it all. There's just a different aspect of each thing that I like within each category. You know, with with MFM, I love being involved with my husband being there and I'm looking into my eyes and me seeing his pleasure too while I'm giving him pleasure and receiving pleasure at the same time. You know, with couples, you know, he's having a great time as well. I'm getting the pleasure that I want, and I love to give pleasure, too. I'm a little submissive that way, so I like to make sure that my partners are all happy. And then in hot wiping, you know, I almost feel like it's really selfish, but it's great to be one-on-one with somebody and be connected with one person at a time. Right. So you do like it all, too. And what do they typically see like a lot of hot-wifing stuff, or I'm assuming they see all different things?

because yeah, the threesome with Doc Chocolate and his girl, like on your only fans and your fans and all that stuff. Like what kind of content do people get over there? So I have some solo material of just me, you know, masturbating, touching myself, photos. I have the hot wife content, me with another male. I have FFM, MFM. I have some forselms and moresums coming up.

up here soon. So there's a little bit of everything. Wow. Can you believe how far you've come? Do you blame it all on the HRT? I think HRT is definitely plays a huge part in it. I think it just turned a switch for me physically, which allowed me to turn that mental switch over as well. I think it is a major more. And what is the difference, like, for you, just like in life in general, as a, like, a sexless, vanilla, repressed woman compared to like a fucking fully turned on, you know, girl that's taking the sluttle every other weekend? I feel more empowered. I'm more confident. I am not much happier person. I'm not as, you know, moody is bitchy or you know I don't have the resting bitch face all the time that I'm

accused of having because you're getting fucked all the time exactly oh my god that's crazy like do any of your friends or family notice the difference in you but like they don't know what the fuck's going on I would say probably my kids probably have but are not sure exactly how to put their thumb on it or what it is of course yeah I really don't know that any of my you know workmates or anybody else has noticed. Right. But I have a feeling definitely my kids, at least one of them will probably figure it out over the course of time.

Oh my God, crazy. So, you know, anything on your guys' bucket looks in the future? Are you just going to continue with your content and everything? Nothing specific on the bucket list. One thing on my husband's is for me to do a gangbang. I'm not sure exactly how I feel about that. I don't know that I have enough hands or holes to take care of people the way that I like to take care of them.

Right. So things are just constantly changing. So you just never know where it's going to take you or where we're headed or what we're looking for. Yeah, I love it. Why don't you give a shout out again to all your stuff? I'm assuming you, like, have a website or a one like you could give me that I could give out. But, I mean, it's pretty easy to remember because it's at Shana Smoke Show everywhere, right? And Shana is at anyone driving?

Like, you're going to give the shout out. I'm going to spell it all out. but no one has to remember anything because I'll put the name in the description and the link, but it's Sh-A-Y-N-A-A- Smoke Show. So Shana is S-H-A-Y-N-A, Shana Smoke Show, Twitter, X, Fansley, OnlyFans, right? Many Viz, you said? Yes, and Link Tree. You can find it all at Link Tree.

Okay, so we'll put your Link Tree in, right? And then that's where people could go and sign up or see you anywhere, right? You love talking to your fans. you're going to send me some picks for my Patreon, right? Absolutely. Okay, send me some hot pecks. R picks for Patreon like me, you know, like, I think you already sent me picks, right?

But like, you know, like a bikini shot or something. And then the more hardcore stuff could go on Discord. And there you could promote and post anything you want. Plus, I have like a content creator channel in there that you could promote any of your stuff as well. You know, when your episode goes up, what your husband ever want to come in and tell the story from his side? I think that he would probably be willing to do that.

I think it would be super fun to talk to him. If he ever wants to call in, give him the link. Do you need me to send you the link again? That would be great. All right, I'm going to email it to you. But listen, Shana, Smoke Show. You are a Smoke Show, by the way. People should see you.

You're like a look fucking killer, right? For your age you take very good care of yourself. Are you a size queen? There's a lot of guys with big dicks on your ex. Yes, I think you could definitely call me a size queen. Yes. There was a point in time where I would say, oh, absolutely not. That is not me.

But yes, I'm just going to embrace who I am. I love it. Nothing wrong with that. I love your whole story. I mean, you've come a long way just in this phone call, but it was really in your whole life. You know, you kind of like really did a drastic change. And I think that's what's the most interesting thing about your story. And I feel like it gives other people hope.

You don't know what I mean? It doesn't just because like you're super vanilla or you're not into all these things. Like, you know, you could totally change the game. You just never know. It's about just like opening yourself up. I mean, you know, the hormones helped you, but it was also conversation and communication and just like, you know, trying things and putting yourself in, you know, uncomfortable positions, right? And pushing your own boundaries and look at you changed your whole life for the better,

which is like super amazing. And like I said, considering, like you said, high school sweetheart's been together 25 years, normally it's like, you know, a snooze fast or it's Groundhog Day. but, you know, it's a whole new world for you and your husband, which I think is amazing. We've had a great time growing together over this entire process. Yeah, and amazing that you both wanted to do the same things at the same time. So there you go. That's the greatest thing about you guys still at it together.

So thanks, Shana. Thanks so much for calling in. I'm going to send you the link for your husband to sign up, okay? He should definitely come on and tell the story from his point of view. It would be great. Okay? Okay, thank you so much. Thanks, Shana.

And send me your link, okay? And a couple more picks for Patreon, okay? Via email. Well do. All right, thanks, Shana. Bye. Bye-bye. Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer.

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Some of the best stories, okay? I kind of picked one from each category that I talk about on my show. There's a hot wife story, a cuck queen story, a ganked girl story. Like I said, it's 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. Okay, this isn't like an erotica book that's made up. These are real true. sex stories, okay? It's written in a very direct tone. It's not so over the top, like erotica. I don't really kind of like that vibe, right? But these are true stories. They're short chapters. They're easy to read. And now you could just sit back and listen because it's going to be available in the audiobook. I didn't do the audiobook because I sucked at it. Okay, so I let them hire a

professional. And I promise you she sounds hot. So you can get the audiobook and sit down and listen to some hot stories while you're driving around just like you listen to my show. The link will be in the description. And if you get my book in any format, it's available in ebook, paperback, and audio book, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. There's no way to get into my Discord unless I send you the link. All you got to do if you get my book is send me a screenshot of your purchase to Strictly Anonymous Podcasts. at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and I'll send you the link to discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.