Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1583 - Samia on Her VERY Open Relationship, Their Latest Orgy & The Threesome That Followed & More

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

Samia is in a ver open relationship, recently attended an orgy that led to a super hot threesome and more and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how her long...-term lover finally moved here and how their non-monogamous relationship is set up, why her marriage broke down and doesn’t work anymore, how and why her guy was incarcerated in Korea and how he got through it, their trip to the Bay Area and the birthday orgy they attended, the girl they met there that they were both into, the threesome they eventually had with her and what went down, the boundaries they had with another girl they were hooking up with and how she didn’t abide by them and what happened, how they worked through it and what they learned from that bad experience, how and why she loves “pussy-flavored dick,” how being sexually compatible with her new guy is so important to her and why non-monogamy couldn’t fix the sexual incompatibility in her marriage, plus a whole lot more. Listen to her podcast here: Happy Slut and you can find her Substack here:  samiamounts.substack.com GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. Get the killer ⁠AUDIO BOOK VERSION ⁠⁠ or ⁠PAPERBACK OR EBOOK VERSION⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠- To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health, use code: STRICTLY   ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Buy 2 months of Bluechew GOLD and get the third month FREE! Use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠https://bathmatedirect.com/strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get up to 20% off + free shipping + 2 year warranty use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠https://inda.shop/STRICTLY⁠⁠⁠ If you’re 21 or older, get 30% OFF your first order @IndaCloud with code STRICTLY #indacloud ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beduc.at/pd2630-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized SUMMER roadmap to sexual happiness⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 to the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Sanpore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:00:31 Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow me at Strict Anonymous. If you want to be on the show, it's called Strictly Anonymous because they change everyone's voices and names, okay? So if you have an interesting secret naughty life that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous or not anonymous if you're out and proud,
Starting point is 00:00:56 you can email me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. or go to my website strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on Be on the Show. Now listen, if you have a naughty confession, you want to leave on my confessions line. You could do that 247. The number is 347, 4203579. That's 347, 4203579. Call from a quiet place. I can't use ones when people call where they're driving. Some of those confessions make it onto a confessions episode. The rest go on to my Patreon. Now my Patreon is super fun and it's very inexpensive if you ask me. It's only $7 a month And you get every single episode. I do seven episodes a week.
Starting point is 00:01:30 You get every single one of them early before anyone gets them as well as intro and ad free. You also get all the confessions and you also get Q&As that I do like every other month where I answer a lot of questions as well as you get anonymous picks of probably every single girl that has called into my show. Every single female guest, I got pictures of them over on my Patreon. Like I said, it's $7 a month. The link to Patreon is in the description. If you do sign up for my Patreon or buy my book, I wrote a book.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's called Strictly anonymous confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. It's all stories from my show told in the third person. They're super fun. If you buy my book, either in paperback or ebook or audiobook version, the links are all in description. I will also give you access to my private discord. Like I said, if you join my Patreon, or if you, you call into my show or if you buy my book, I will give complimentary access to my private
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Starting point is 00:03:16 a little fun. You're going to find it all on SDC.com. Like I said, you get a free trial if you use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link that's 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on Sammy amounts. Sammy has been on before. She came on again to give me an update and she has a very interesting update with a little information that I didn't know about last time she withheld but she was able to talk about it this time which is super interesting. Sammy has her own podcast. It is now called the Happy Slut podcast. She explains what she talks about on there, but what she's doing on my show is talking about her update. She was married last time we talked. She's still married. She talks about why she's still
Starting point is 00:04:03 married. But she was also seeing a guy long distance who she was very into. Like you could tell that that guy was her guy, the one for her. And he finally moved here. And she does explain in this episode why he was over in Korea and what he was doing, which was kind of like a, a major thing that she talked about. I'm not going to tell you. You're going to have to listen. But I had no idea and she didn't tell me before. But, you know, what he was doing over there is over. And now he's over here. And let me tell you, they're having a lot of fucking fun. Okay. And a little drama. I love a gone wrong story. They are very open. They're in a non-monogamous and they're having fun. She talks about taking him to a swinger club and then an orgy. They did body storytelling, the both of them.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And then we're invited to an orgy afterwards and fucked people there and then found a girl that they both really like Samia was really into this girl and they wound up fucking her and they're totally into her and she talks about that experience and they went to a sex club and then they had another girl who was actually a friend I think of Samias and that one went wrong okay and she talks a lot about that but the good news is she came out of that wrong relationship with that girl and her guy knowing more about what her and her guy want they are in an open relationship I would and say they're polyamorous, she explains exactly what they are, and she talks about how they figured out exactly what they want. And then at the end, she gives a shout out again to her show.
Starting point is 00:05:30 She's looking for people to call in. She talks a little bit bigger picture on patriarchy and all that kind of stuff, because that's what she discusses on her podcast. So anyway, you're going to love her. She's great. I think she's great. You go check out her podcast. I'll put the links, and she's super hot, and I got pictures of her, and you can see her over on Instagram too. But anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Sammy up Mount. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Oh, hey, Sammy, amounts.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I don't know why I want to call you by your first and last name, but I did. Maybe it's because I always call you Kathy Kay. Oh, do you? I don't even remember. Oh, my God. I love your, I like your name. I like your voice. You got that hot voice.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And you got a good voice, which is great because you do have your own podcast. So why don't, you know, we'll put a link to your podcast. You kind of do exactly what I do. You talk to people and have these great conversations. over on your show too. You've been on my show before. Yes, and you've been in our mind. Yeah, I have your whole backstory. We're going to get like the part two on this episode. But give a shout out to your podcast real quick and then we'll talk about it a little bit at the end to and put a link to it. But just tell people what its name is and what
Starting point is 00:06:40 you do. Yes, my podcast is a little bit different than yours because you're talking to lots of people about their sex lives and it's so delicious and full of juicy, explicit detail. My podcast is called Happy Slut. It sounds similar. And on the surface, it sounds like it would be exactly like your show, Kathy. But on my show, I'm celebrating humans who have found a way to take joy in their sexuality, in spite of the ways that the system of patriarchy has made intimacy hard for everyone, men, women, everyone in between.
Starting point is 00:07:14 We have this situation where intimacy is difficult because of the lessons that people have been taught growing up about what boys want, what girls want, what sex should be, and it just doesn't fit with actual human desire. Actual human desire, as you know from your show, is sexy and diverse and sometimes wacky and ridiculous and bizarre and intense and really varied, but patriarchy, the system that we live under, says that only heterosexual, lifelong committed monogamous sex is appropriate. So I'm trying to debunk that idea, show men the way that patriarchs. has hurt them. Women, I think for the most part, know the ways that patriarchy has hurt them.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And I just want to celebrate the idea that we can dismantle the patriarchy within our own minds in order to get laid more and have big sex. Yeah, I love that. So you're tying all of that kind of bigger conversation into sex, which I think is like super great. So anyone that wants to hear those. I don't typically do those bigger topic subjects on my show, right? I'm more talking to like people about their lives. I do think I celebrate the joys of. of sex. And I talk to a lot of people who actually have come from very repressed backgrounds to not. I mean, I love those sort of transitions. So I think it's great that you're having that as your focus, you know, on your podcast. What's the name is? I think sex is political. I do. I mean, and that's a big difference. Yeah, that's one thing I never do. We get political. Yeah, I would never get political. I don't care about stuff like that. I was like politics gives me a fucking headache. Okay. But I don't say that like a couple that came from a religiously
Starting point is 00:08:52 oppressive background who opens up their sex life and finds joy and fulfillment. Like that couple just dismantled some serious patriarchal ideas within their own relationship. Because I've had that story on so much and I love those kinds of stories. Really, that's what I think my show is always here to say that I think people don't understand is that on the other side of letting go of everything that society puts on you. It can be, you can be a happy slut, you know. A guy friend of mine told me recently that. a girl used the slut word against another girl, like in a very derogatory term.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He's like, what the fuck? You know, it's like it's so weird, you know, that somebody would still use that term in a negative way, you know, and that's the reason I'm like, I don't know if it was created by men, but like they kind of fuck themselves in the ass by creating that because now all these women are, you know, as sexual as they want them to be. And every girl like sex as much as guys do, but sometimes they have to be so afraid because of the slut world. You know, that's the world I grew up in.
Starting point is 00:09:50 But you are a happy slut. and you happen to have like a ton of boyfriends and a main guy and a I mean do you consider we need your part too you know when I last left off you had a main guy that you were so into and I think he was moving here I mean just remind everybody like how you label your are you polyamorous with this guy or open just non monogamous or polyamorous or both or all of the above so I identify as polyamorance because I don't want to shut down the possibility of a lot. love relationship with somebody that comes into my life and it feels right and it makes sense. But right now, I am functioning as non-monogamous, not polyamorous.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Right now, I have my anchor partner. His name is Daniel and he did move here from Korea at the end of March, right? I think after last time I talked to you. Yes, I don't remember. And so he's been here with me in Texas. And it has been so glorious. So first of all, I think I talked about him last time. But in case I didn't, here's a refresher.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I've known him since I was in my mid-20s. He was the first really amazing sex I ever had. I made my sexual debut at age 17. But for the next seven years, I was super slutty and super unsatisfied. Like, the sex I was having with men was terrible. I was having some sex with women that was great in that I liked doing stuff to them, but they didn't really know how to do stuff to me, which is strange. Or maybe I was just with selfish girls.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't know. But I wasn't having amazing sex. I was having okay sex, and I didn't know what amazing sex was. So I didn't even know I wasn't having amazing sex. Right. And then I had sex with Daniel when I was 24, 25 for the first time. And it was like, my whole world changed. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And you were married, though, as well, too. Like, it was a husband in the mix, too. No, not back then. Not then. Okay. Okay. This was almost 20 years ago. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Okay. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm still married. We'll get there. But I had this amazing sex with him at 24 or 25 and I just, he became the bar for me. And then he always lived in Korea. I lived in the States. So we like couldn't be together.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I didn't know what non-monogamy or polyamory was back then. I couldn't conceive of having a long distance relationship with that much distance. So we just decided to like stay close friends. but move on with our lives. And then, you know, I kept having other relationships and my feelings for him never changed. And that's why I came to polyamory. So, like, this guy is the reason I became polyamorous
Starting point is 00:12:32 in the first place. He's the reason I am non-monogamous. He's my origin story. And I'm finally getting to be with him. Right. So he moved back. So, I mean, we're talking in August, right, September. He moved back in March.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So you guys have been together, right? And right from the get-go, how is it set up when he, got here because you do also have a husband. Yes. So I am married. My husband lives in another country and we are no longer romantic partners, but because of the nature of his job and the way things work, it just makes sense for us to stay married for the time being because we're getting lots of benefits for it. So that's what we're doing. We are still friends. It was rocky for a while, but we have come to a very nice
Starting point is 00:13:21 place now where we're getting along, we're working together on a few things, and we're basically friends and creative collaborators, like business collaborators, and we're maximizing the benefits of marriage. Right. And there's no, and it's not, like, the reason for you not being with him as husband and wife is not because when Daniel got here, you decided to lock down your relationship with him, right? Because there are other lovers in your life as well. Now, I know that a little bit, right? Yeah. So the thing with your husband and the breakdown of that is like very separate, I would assume, it sounds like. Well, it's a little entangled.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I mean, in reality, like the breakdown with my husband is because he doesn't really want to be non-monogamous. And it was a bit of a deal breaker for him when it became apparent that Daniel was going to be moving to the States to be with me. Yeah. My dream was I want a husband and a boyfriend. Oh, okay. And my husband was like, I don't want you to have a fucking boyfriend. This is bullshit. Bye.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yes. Well, you got to honor both. It wasn't that simple. It wasn't that simple. But at the base of it, that's what it was. I get it. And you got to honor both of you, right? Both of you are right for your own life.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You know what I mean? He's right for what he wants and you're right and your guys are then better off not together. So that's great. So you're staying married because of that, but you're not really married to him. But when Daniel comes here, of course, you're not going to wind up being monogamous because you're non-monogamous. He's non-monogamous. And so do you guys move in?
Starting point is 00:14:47 pretty sweaty. Yeah, exactly. That's what we're going to get into. Do you guys wind up moving in? Does he move in with you when he gets here? So, so technically he's living nearby with a friend of mine, but he's here all the time. Right. But because I wanted to take things slow, I didn't want to jump straight from, you know, long distance, almost 20 years of loving each other, but not being able to be together to like suddenly cohabitating. I thought that was a little crazy. Right. So, but he's, he's five minutes, you know, walking down the street. All right, guys. The next time you have sex, want to feel fully on and ready, both mentally and physically, well, then you need to check out Blue Chew Gold.
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Starting point is 00:17:38 he helps me more of the house. Yeah, that's actually the best of both worlds, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. a little of your own time. So, but when you got he, when he got here, did you have other lovers that were already in the mix that he knew of and stuff? And because I know there's people involved now and I'm wondering if they were people that
Starting point is 00:17:55 were always involved or you got new people. I have a rotating cast of comet lovers. So when he first got here, I did have one local guy. Yeah. God, I miss him. I miss him. I was, I was hooking up with him from January until the end of April. And so there was a little overlap, but he got freaked out.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I think he's non-monogamous too, but a lot happened in his life. His main partner stopped having sex with him. His car got totaled. He was super broke. And he just, and I think he might have been freaked out by Daniel being here because I think he wanted a little bit more with me. And he basically showed himself the door. And I was sad about it.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And I tried to rekindle it, but he's gone. But he was amazing. He gave me the best dick. Oh, my God. It was so good. It was like, just really athletic and passionate and varied. Like he'd, you know, switch positions. He'd go down on me a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:51 He'd tried lots of new things. It was really fun fucking man. It was like the kind of sex I like to have. It was very sad. Right. And during the month of overlap, there were two dates that I had with him where this is so slutty, Kathy. I went and hung out with him.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We had crazy sex. and then I came home and immediately Fug Samuel book. I'm dying to do that. One of my guys told me that he'd be into me doing that for him and I never thought I'd be into the hot wife. I think I'm more of a cuck queen. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:20 Like I want my guy to go do that. But when he brought it up, I got horny for it. I was like, what's fine? I'm like calling on my booty call guys trying to get them over to fuck two guys in the same day like one after the other. There's something like so hot. It's so hot.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So I'm right there with you. I haven't done it by the way. I'm interviewing now. I'm interviewing for a new guy to take that position. And I have somebody I'm really excited to meet off the field. He's like this gorgeous tall, ripped software engineer. Yeah. I think a lot of guys would be fucking down for that position.
Starting point is 00:19:49 You're putting a call out right now. Listen, guys. Yep. Hey, if you're local to San Antonio, Texas, find me on field. Oh, my God. You're not going to have a hard time finding someone to fail. It's just going to be a matter of who you want to be with. So when he got here, though, he didn't have anybody else here, right?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Because he lived far away. So the part of the story, I don't think I told you last time, but I will share it this time. He's been living in Korea since the early odds, like 2003 or 4. Yeah. But the last two years he was in Korea, he was actually incarcerated. Oh, how come? Can you tell me? So when I went to visit him in 2024, we made our relationship official for the first time ever.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And we were starting to make plans for how we were going to be together. And then four days into my visit, customs officers showed up at his door and they arrested him for having LSD. And it was, you were at his house when they came? Thank God they didn't take you. Because they didn't have a warrant for me. They had a warrant. I mean, do they need warrants in here? What they had was proof that he had had LSD mailed to him.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And it was for personal use only. But they, the government in Korea at the time was under this very Trumpian president who campaigned on a war on drugs. And so all of the drug penalties were suddenly like draconian crazy. Oh, that happened here. There's so many people in jail for like 30 years, longer than people that rape and kill people for weed. Exactly. Terrible. But here we've had a lot of reform in that area.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean, under that president, it was really bad. now there's a new liberal president because that president that had that drug law a campaign, he actually got impeached and is like being sentenced to life in prison or something crazy like that. So, so anyway, it's like this is how the political affects the personal. So Daniel was imprisoned for almost two years for this crime that, this quote unquote crime that harmed no people, you know, that caused no harm whatsoever. And we had to get through that. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And how hardcore was that prison? Very hardcore. Very bad. I could imagine. Very, very bad. So bad that when that Ice Fist, when that Hyundai factory in Georgia got rated by ice and all of those Korean factory workers got put in ICE detention facilities, those conditions that they were so upset about are better than Korean prison conditions.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah, I could imagine. I mean, I've seen documentaries. I mean, to me, I feel like always as an American, you know, the last place you ever want to be is in jail in any other country. You know what I mean? It's horrible. Yeah. Horrible.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Like, and I don't want to go into the details. You can read about it on my substack. Eventually, everybody, so go find me on substack. I mean, how do you stay sane? Horrible. He stayed sane by writing. Okay. He's a writer.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And he wrote me these epic letters every week. I would write him epic letters every week. He wrote a complete novel while he was in there that he's now editing for submission. Amazing. He wrote the beginnings of his memoirs. started working on a new book series, which he's still working on. He spent the entire time writing by hand. I mean, the novel that he wrote is over 600 pages in Microsoft Word right now. I transcribed it beforehand. So, like, we got through this by just super long distance,
Starting point is 00:23:19 really, really fucking being there for each other. And so by the time he got here, he's like, traumatized, sex starved. I imagine. Wait, can I just ask you, and I don't know if this is okay, but, like, was there any kind of sex that could go down in these prisons? No. Not even gay sex? Like you couldn't even get a blow job from a guy. Yeah. No, he would have loved that. But no.
Starting point is 00:23:41 This is why you don't want to wind up in prison. At least in America, you could like get a blow job. Yeah, but in America you can also get shanked. There was also no risk of violence. I mean, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I'm just making a fucking joke. I'm not going to get into the prison system. But I'm just saying like they can't, you can't have sex. Like that's how bad it is. Like you can't even interact with other people. I mean, how do they not have like how is it possible? Like he,
Starting point is 00:24:03 there was just there was just never a time when you weren't being monitored not even the bathrooms not the showers there were always people watching you yeah yeah so so you know it was a period of adjustment i mean he's still in a period of adjustment but like it was slow going at first we had to reconnect with each other in person but the sex was pretty much immediately just like it's always been like fucking fire the best of my life and since then in the last five months that he's been here we've taken multiple trips together. We're seeing a woman in San Francisco who was on my podcast. Oh my God. I can't wait to get the details. Yeah, go on. We've gone to sex parties and sex clubs. You know, I feature him in my writing all the time on my substack. He's going to be in my podcast eventually.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But I'm giving him time to like really fully re-inter the online things. Yeah. Oh my God. Wait, so where do we start? Like the sex clubs or the girl? Like, which came from? First. So in May, we took a trip to the Bay Area to perform in Dixie de la Tours'seysseys storytelling show, body storytelling. Oh, yeah, of course. Amazing. Yeah. And so both of us actually performed.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I was booked to perform, and then I pitched Daniel, and he pitched Dixie, and she said yes. So we both got to perform. We both crushed it, if I do so myself. And there was a woman in the audience who liked what we had to say. And she just happened to be at Dixie's birthday orgy the next night. Oh my God. Just fucking slow it down, please, because I'm like obsessed with every word that comes out of your round.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Like, the Dixie's birthday orgy? Like, what the fuck? Every day or was that just the title of her birthday party? No, she had a friend orgy for her birthday party. Oh, my God. And this was, and she talks about this on my very first episode of Happy Slet. Okay. She was my first happy slut.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So if you want to hear the story of the birthday 4G, go back on the, Happy Slight Feed and Find Dixie Dillator's episode. It's called Fuck Like Your Life Depends on it. Oh my God. This was part of her re-emerging after a long, dry spell and deciding I'm going to fuck all my friends. So we were invited to the 4G because we were performing in the storytelling show the night before.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And in advance of the 4G, there was a signal chat where all of the attendees were getting to know each other. And there's this one woman named Lyra, who I saw her picture and I immediately turned a Daniel and I was like, I would lie down for this woman. Oh my God. She's so beautiful. She's so powerful. Like, I would let her do anything she wanted to me.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And then when we were at the 4G, I saw her. I pointed her out. I'm like, that's the woman. That's the one I'd lay down for. And then she turned around and she walked right up to us and started telling us how much she loved our stories at Body the night before. You're kidding. No, it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And then it was really clear that she was interested, especially in me. But then it became clear she was also interested in Daniel. She had to work that night. She's a professional dom. Oh, my God. I feel like I had a Lyra on my show who was a dom and from that area. I wonder if it's the same girl. But go on.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Did you have her on your show? She's very smart. I had her on my show. We'd have to look at all. Yeah, I'll look her up. But yeah, so she was like doing like an anal play demonstration and a volunteer shift. And so we didn't have time to play that night. but we did get to make out with her.
Starting point is 00:27:33 She made out with both of us. Okay. She made out with both of us at the same time, like separately and together. And it was so delicious. And we went back to where we were staying and thought for like two hours thinking about her. And then a few weeks later, she was like, I know this is crazy, but I really liked you guys. And I felt like we connected.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And I'm flying your neck of the woods to visit somebody. And I thought maybe I could stop through and see you for 24 hours. Oh my God, that's not crazy. That's like the hottest thing that she's so like fucking aggrat. Like, you know what I mean? Just like so directed like going after what she fucking wants, right? So she did. And we had this incredible, intimate, connected, beautiful time.
Starting point is 00:28:17 I mean, we basically spent 24 hours talking, cuddling, kissing, and fucking. Right. With breaks for food. It was so hot. It was so hot. It was everything. And she's coming back next month. I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And wait, and so you're down to see your guard, like you're like, there's no sort of boundaries or anything when it comes to, you know, having a little threesome, foursome or g or whatever with your partner and you. There are definitely boundaries, but they mostly have to do with making sure that both of us are interested. Yes. No one's taking one to the team. Uh-huh. And the person that we're going to get involved with, I've realized because of another recent experience, with us trying to date the same girl, they need to understand,
Starting point is 00:29:05 they need to understand boundaries and agreements and be able to keep them. Because the second, the second, either one of us is involved with somebody else who's like not doing that, things get really messy. We have recently learned. There's like a really fresh situation
Starting point is 00:29:21 that just totally fucking imploded, like massive polydrama, friendship destroyed kind of thing. With a girl or a guy. I was with a girl. It was with a girl that I was friends with who I encouraged to start seeing Daniel, but then she just like raced to the moon with accelerating her relationship with him. She had made a couple of agreements with me because she said it was so important to her to protect our friendship. So she asked me what would help. And I gave her two things. I was like, could you take it slow?
Starting point is 00:29:54 And could you give me a heads up about any milestones in the relationship if you're going to initiate? any. Oh, because they could play solo? Yeah, yeah. I was encouraging them to date separately. Okay. And like in the course of this, she and I discovered that we had an attraction, so then we were going to date. And like, I was hoping this could turn into a fun three-way dynamic. But within six weeks, the whole thing imploded. She didn't keep either of the agreements that she made with me. Daniel didn't do a great job of communicating his actual capacity to her. So what she wanted was way more than what he could give. And when these
Starting point is 00:30:30 things came up and new boundaries tried to be put in place by me or him. It didn't work for her. She ended up breaking up with both of us and it was very acrimonious. What were the boundaries that you gave her that she was in town with? She asked me what she could do to protect our friendship and make me more comfortable with her dating my partner. And I said, honestly, the big thing was don't make me the gatekeeper of him. So like at first she was asking me permission for things. I'm like, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I'm not his mommy. You just make your plans with him and if he needs to check in with me, he can do that. You know, he's the firewall. He's the hinge, not me. Yeah. But if you want to go out of your way to make me more comfortable, the two things I would ask for is keep a measured pace, like go slow and give me a heads up about any relationship milestones.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And then in the next month, they had unprotected sex and said, I love you to each other. And she initiated both, but didn't give me a heads up or tell me about it after. thereby breaking those agreements that she was going very fast and not giving me heads-ups. And the thing is that would have been fine if she had never agreed to those things. But because she agreed to them
Starting point is 00:31:39 and then broke them, it was like, oh, now my trust is damaged. But aren't those things in place because ultimately they wouldn't be okay? That's why you put them in place to begin with? Because how could that be okay? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It would be totally, it was fine.
Starting point is 00:31:52 It would be fine to go too fast and not give you any heads up or any of that. But for her, you made that point, but somebody else you would. If, like, if it was a thing where we hadn't made those agreements, then my trust wouldn't have been damaged. Okay. But would you ever not have those agreements? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Okay. Because the thing is, again, Daniel is the firewall. Like, if things are moving really fast with him and somebody else, I can be like, hey, this seems like it's moving really fast. Like, for me, could you slow it down? And then that's on him. But the other person doesn't have that responsibility to me. The only reason this became so ugly was because she made it her responsibility to like make me more comfortable.
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Starting point is 00:35:02 That's all that matters. You know what I mean? She was thinking of agreements. And then when I confronted her about not keeping those agreements, she threw Daniel under the bus and claimed it was his fault for everything. All of her accounts of things didn't match his. And I trusted his more because I was hearing everything from him as it happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And one of the things she blamed him for, I saw text messages that totally contradicted. what she was saying. Oh my God. You know, so it just got really ugly and messy and like, I don't think she was lying or being malicious. I think that she was kind of reconstructing history to match how defensive she was feeling when I was saying, hey, you broke our agreements and I don't trust you anymore, you know? So it just all imploded when I tried to tell her, listen, I need to either take a break from our friendship and you can keep seeing Daniel because I'm super uncomfortable because trust's been broken or we need to work together to rebuild this trust so we can have a friendship. Those were the.
Starting point is 00:35:54 options I gave her and she chose and said to just break up with him, break up with me. And she was really kind of hideous and awful to us in the process, or at least to me. I'm not sure how she was to Daniel because I didn't cross-examine him. But she was pretty hideous to me, like hideous. And it was bad. But the upside is, you know, we navigated it with each other. I mean, she showed her character by not listening and being, you know, to me, a normal girl's girl would be overly cautious about everything they were doing with another girl's guy.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You know what I mean? Like that's how most people would be. She said, she said that's what she wanted to do. Like all of her words were like, I'm a girl's girl. You're my friend. That you're my priority. But her actions were not that. So that's why she wound up being a not so nice going out.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Because only a not so nice person would totally go against you. It wasn't a mistake what happened. You know what I mean? It's just who she is. No, we learned so much. We learned so much. I feel like I dodged a bullet. I already had some reservations about her as a friend for other reasons and this like just confirmed everything for me. Yeah. So we learned a lot, you know, about how we should communicate with new people.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Smart, of course. What we actually want. So what came out of this is Daniel and I both realized we don't want to have other romantic partners. Yeah. Yeah. We want to focus on each other. We want to have sex with other people like separately or together. You know, there's things that he wants that I can't provide. He's by. He wants to go to a gay orgy. I'm not going to be invited. I'm not going to be invited. it's that. But you're totally down for him to have those experiences, which is amazing. So down. Yeah. And I want him to come home and then I want to take such good care of him and jump on his dick. Like, it turns me on so much to think of him being out there in the world sledding out to his heart's content. Right. You know, like, I love that. What would bother me right now is if he was giving a ton of time and energy and commitment to somebody else when we are just getting our relationship off the ground. And he doesn't want that either.
Starting point is 00:37:55 He doesn't want me to do that either. And I don't want to do that. So, like, we're on the same page now in a way we weren't before because we didn't have a situation like this to show us like, oh, you don't want this. This is too much. Sometimes the best way to learn, like, what you actually do want is to learn first what you don't want. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:17 And sometimes that's the best way to figure things out. And the only way. Because how else are you going to navigate things? I mean, you just got to fucking, a lot of times a lot of people don't even get to the place where they're doing shit like you're doing because they overthink and they worry about all these things if they happen if this or that and they think they're going to talk it all out and they're going to write it all down. They're going to be over-prepared and it's going to go perfect.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And it doesn't. The life doesn't go perfectly. You know what's going to happen. And that, but, you know, the good thing is is that you do learn from these things and you get to hone down. I see it all the time with couples. Like it really helps you hone down like, you know, what the things. two of you want together, you know, and as long as you could communicate through it, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:55 that's all that it really matters. It doesn't matter what that girl did. It just matters that he was, you know, empathetic to how you were feeling, vice versa, and all that kind of good. And you were on the same page, you know? Yeah. And that was the thing that was so great about this is like, it was so dramatic and tumultuous, but at no point was it damaging our relationship because we were communicating. You were on the same page. Yeah. And he had my back in every, in every part of this process. And I had his back. So we came out of it actually closer than before. And it's a shame that we lost, you know, this relationship, I guess. But knowing now what I know about her, it's like maybe good news. It helped you. No, it was a gift. It helped you. That's all. Like, I'm a cup half full person.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Every terrible boyfriend ever had. I look at them as like a gift to teach me whatever I needed. She really helped you. And that was it. And did you have good sex with her? I didn't well I don't know if you could we went to a sex club on my birthday I actually wrote about this on my substack if anyone wants all the deets yeah that post is called the newbie night at the swingers club but so we played a little bit that night and I I fingered her a little and went down on her a little and that was fun I really enjoyed it like I was so excited about the idea of us all having threesomes there are you know the nights that he had sex with her on his own and came home. We fucked. It was great. That was also exciting. But what came out was that she really wanted a romantic partnership from him and we wanted to be like a friends with benefits situation. Yeah, yeah, I get it. All right. So this new girl, right, like she's in the mex. Lyra, is that her name again? Lyra. Yeah. I can't wait to see her. You've just seen her that one time,
Starting point is 00:40:37 right? And now talk about, you said you've been going to sex clubs and parties and all that other kind of stuff. Yeah, so we've been exploring. So we live in San Antonio. And there's not like, it's not like New York or L.A. There's not a ton of options. There's really two options in San Antonio. We checked out one. You know, it's cool. They're doing a good job.
Starting point is 00:40:59 The community is not our speed. Yeah. So there's another one we can check out. But based on reviews online, I have a feeling it's going to be kind of like the same. We might have to go to Austin for what we want. Yeah, that's where you should live, right? Austin. Or curating our own events is something I am aspiring to.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But we might just be sort of like finding people who are of a mind with us, like who enjoy intimate sexual encounters and treat them with respect and care and like to build real friendships out of them. You know, like when I say, you know, a sexy friends with benefit situation, like emphasis on the friends. Like I never want to treat people like sex objects. I want to treat people like people. But, you know, caring for somebody and committing to somebody are two different things.
Starting point is 00:41:48 So we want to find people who kind of want the same thing we want and start putting together little, you know, like little options. I'm working on interviewing guys for my double penetration fantasy. Right, right. And he's down with that, of course. Yeah. And Daniel is, Daniel's focus is kind of on other things, but he's putting toes in the water of like starting to explore.
Starting point is 00:42:13 on his own a little bit more too. What does that mean with guys or with women? Like what does that mean? Like, you know, making up, finally making a profile on field or whatever and like going on dates, like trying to set things up like that. Or going,
Starting point is 00:42:26 or, you know, going to the gay orgy he was invited to that he didn't go to last week. So what, and I just asked a question because solo play is always interesting to me. And the word date, like words are always interesting to me when couples are like open, not monogamous, but not polyamorous or just poly and not whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:42 but when someone sometimes people use the word boyfriend or dates and I just always wonder does that mean what I think it means because are you guys open to are you guys open to dating other people I thought you had said that you just decided to just stay with each other for now romantic so what would date dates be maybe it doesn't mean what I think it is you know what I mean I'm using the term very loosely yeah yeah yeah I get it just mean making plans with something right I get that's what I want to make sure like that plan is I'm going to go to your place and we're going to fuck you yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what you mean just a date to meet like a date to me like a day I'm just a date to meet like a day I'm just a day let's meet on this date to meet them. It's not a date like the formal sense. But I was going to be like that doesn't. I mean, but it could be like, you know, I might go out for drinks with somebody to assess if I want to fuck them. And I would call that a date.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But it's different than like, oh, we are dating. We are boyfriend and girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, totally. Of course. I'm not using it in that sense. Right. You need to be like somebody as a person and everything and have that connection. I do.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Right. Of course. I do too. I totally get it. That's why when. Daniel does too. It's one of the things I love about him. He needs a good vibe. Yeah. So Lyra was a good vibe. Now, when you did email me, you said you had two women you were with, but I'm assuming one was Lyra and one was this one that already went south by the time you had booked this, correct? That's right. Or there was not another one, right? Poor thing. No, the one that went south, literally it imploded last week.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Oh, you're kidding. How long did it go well for? I mean, it went on for a total of six weeks. And in that six weeks were two huge bad moments. Oh, really? The first one happened within two weeks. We got through that. We had my birthday. It was great.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And then things seemed to be going well. And then the second bad moment was the ending moment. Right. So not a lot of fun. No. There were a couple of fun experiences. but overall it was drama. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:39 For me, for me. Probably Daniel had more fun than I did because he got to actually, you know, go on dates and enjoy some sex with somebody who wasn't me and come home to me like ready to lick his pussy flavored dick. This is what I found out. I really like pussy flavored dick. Right. Love pussy flavored dick. Oh, and if it's my pussy, that's great. But if it's somebody else's pussy, hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Right. Right. You're a little cuck queen. That's a little cuck queen of you, no? A little bit, a little bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. You know, and for me, it's not like, you know, some people that's about, like, erotic jealousy.
Starting point is 00:45:14 For me, it's not about that. It's more about, like, my baby is such a stud. He can go out and fuck this other girl and they come home and fuck me, and that's how hot he is. You know, like that's what it is. Like, you know, one time I had this woman on my show and she was talking about hot wifing, you know, but it's no different. the woman that's into the guy fucking other women or the man that's into the woman. And she said like her husband describes like him sharing his wife with other people.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Like the same way a guy shares his like new car with his buddies. You don't know what I mean? Like he loves his new Porsche so much that he like, you need to take it for a ride and experience how great it is. And that's like what it's about, right? That's exactly what that's exactly what you just described. Right? It's not about. I tell people that if they ever have a chance to fuck Daniel,
Starting point is 00:46:01 they should do it. Like if they're ever in a position and he wants to and they want to, they should say yes because he's tremendous. Right. But you get like that makes you like that there's something like you get something out of that, right? I do. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's compersion. Yeah. It's compersion and it's I just, I don't know. I'm so in love with him and I've known him for so long and I saw him in a long marriage with somebody who said they wanted non-monogamy, but in reality they didn't. They couldn't handle it. Well, didn't your husband think so too? I mean, I think a lot of people sometimes might think.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people might think it's... Me and my husband didn't last as long as Daniel and his ex did. And so I watched him, like, just be suppressed in his sexuality for so many years and so miserable because of it. And, I mean, it really did a number on him not to be able to express himself that way. So, like, there's this added layer of, like, now I get to give him the gift of a partnership with somebody who really fucking loves him, will show up for him, have his back, and also be,
Starting point is 00:47:01 like baby go be slutty and then come home to me. Yeah, no. I mean, I talk to so many couples that like first, second, third time, the charm. Most of the time it's like third or fourth even sometimes where they're finally met their match. And not to say that sex is every thing in a relationship, but it is a part of it. And when you were like completely misaligned in that piece of the pie, like that could be a real big problem and it leads people to cheat, do things behind. You know what I mean? Yes. And I love that you just said this. I'm literally writing an essay about this right now. By the time this episode comes out, it'll be on my substack. It's called I Love Intent Sex. But it's really about how important it is to have real sexual compatibility.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Not just we both have high libidos, but like, do you like kink? You should be with somebody who's okay with that kink. Do you like long, crazy pounding sessions? You should be with somebody who wants that too. Otherwise, there's so little room for compromise when there's massively different styles of sex wanted by two partners in a relationship. We have this idea that you can compromise, but like if one person wants to go for two hours and switch between really intense pounding and slow making love, but the other person is like, I only want 20 minutes and then I get overwhelmed and bored and I'm in pain. Yeah. And there's no real way to compromise that satisfies both people and doesn't put the one who wants less sex at risk of having to endure something that they don't actually want, you know? Yeah. It's so important.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I have a friend who's dating. I thought the non-monogamy could solve this sexual incompatibility problem, but non-monogamy can't solve it either. Like with my, with my husband, we have a sexual incompatibility. We want different things sexually. Right. And I thought, well, we're going to be non-monogamous. I said, be fine, I'll get that kind of sex elsewhere. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:54 So explain that because I think that that's super interesting to explain that even though it sounds on paper that it would like that it would be fine. Like why in practice was it not fine? Well, in my relationship specifically, it was that he wasn't prepared to actually function non-monogamously the way he thought he would be able to. Yeah. So then I ended up having to sort of suppress my sexuality because it made him so uncomfortable. So for years, I didn't get any sex outside the marriage.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And then once we did open up, it was clearly uncomfortable for him to know that that was happening. And we never talked about it, but I have a strong feeling that he could sense that there were things that I wanted that he couldn't give me. And he just wasn't a person who could be okay with that. Right. But that's not real monogamy. He wasn't into being monogamous. What I find from real monogamous people that are both down, sometimes like in, and this, I've heard this from people that eventually do wind up going and doing a little bit solo play once they have the real non-monogamy and their relationship down.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Because they eventually get to a place where they realize, you know, you're never going to find one partner that could give you every single thing that you need. So it is okay to have another partner that might want to like slap you and call you a whore. You know what I mean? When maybe your partner doesn't want to. No, and I've heard those stories, you know, so they get that from like their set, their other. solo partner that they have, you know, and I think that could really work for some couples. And so there's a little, there's a little incompatibility. But for the most part, they both completely believe in non-monogamy, had a ton of fun together. But these little things where maybe they're mismatched and they do, you know, because they could just get it from somebody else. And isn't it great to be like pounded differently from somebody? I think that's what non-monogamy is all about is like getting all kinds of lovers at all times instead of just being with the same person. I totally agree. Right. In my, in my, in my, in my, marriage that just wasn't working now if if there had been different circumstances maybe if i had been able to be more honest with him and he had been able to receive that honesty i never i don't think
Starting point is 00:51:03 i i tried to tell him a couple of times like there's a kind of sex i like that we can't do have you ever had dr way it's so hard to say that to a man that's what i'm saying is you can't fuck me the way i like to be fucked yeah i have a guy friend of mine who's like was dating this girl and he just can't get past the fact that she will never not want missionary. And he wants to like turn her around it. Like he's just got a very different way of going about things. And he doesn't know how to say it to her, but it's like there's a disconnect for him because she's not down for like the animalistic kind of way. You know what I mean? It's very early on in their relationship. And that kind of stuff is like really sort of hindering his ability to fall for her. Did you ever have Dr. Lay yet on your podcast?
Starting point is 00:51:47 No, but I'd like to. Yeah, you should because he explained it. It was so fucking interesting. because, and it's funny because I had just taken my son to the amusement park and he, like, fucking hates roller coasters. I'm like obsessed with roller coasters. Like, I could just like hear them and I'll feel feelings. You know what I mean? Like I always loved that. Yeah, that's, well, that's right.
Starting point is 00:52:04 So this is so when I go and my son and he like, he doesn't want to go on. I'm like, what the fuck's his problem? So I'm like, oh, if I force him to go on, he'll realize like how, and he came off and he's like, no, he still didn't fucking like it. And, you know, Dr. D.A. has this whole thing. And, you know, listen, I totally under, that's when I realized like, oh, he's just not, wired that way we're all wired different and he puts the roller coaster thing uh to sex and he says that just like some people are wired into liking roller coasters and they need that thrill to get that feeling
Starting point is 00:52:34 and they dig that kind of thing some people just don't and don't need it don't want it aren't interested it's the same when it comes to sex some people and it's bad for them yeah not just they don't need it it's like of course actively unpleasant yes but that's the same thing when it comes sex. Some people are wired to need and want more. They want way more. They want all that stuff. It gives them the fucking itch that they have. Some people are just down for vanilla fucking sex and that's always going to be okay. And it's just a matter of being wired differently. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. And we need to get wise to this, I think. I think people should be having these conversations early on in relationships, especially if they want to be monogamous. Because you can lock yourself into
Starting point is 00:53:20 something for a long time that leaves you feeling like you're going to fucking tear your hair because you're not getting what you need. Yeah. And the sad thing is that's why I always make jokes about like I always love to see the difference in the pictures of the first wives and the second wives, you know, because first wives, a guy isn't so much thinking about the sex. Like even if it's okay, like they're thinking about this woman has to take care of my babies. I'm bringing her home for Thanksgiving. She's going to be like, you know, friends with my mom and da-da-da-da-da. You know, and then when all of that goes up the window because the sex goes up the window and they're in a sexless marriage and they wind up getting divorced, the next woman is like,
Starting point is 00:53:54 you know, totally different. And it's all about that because it's like different sort of priorities. But I do think in order to make relationships last longer, like really being open and honest about what you're really into sexually is super important. And I mean, I have so many episodes on where like literally just having conversations and pushing each other out of, like outside of their boundaries and talking about things and copying to things that they, admitting that they were into things that they never admitted before, like completely changed the game in the bedroom and led to so many things. And it's just like it really goes to show how much it's all about communication.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And what boggles my mind and I feel like you're similar to me. Like I have no problem saying anything to anybody. Like I don't understand a problem of like not communicating. You know what I mean? I just don't even understand it. But so many people don't have a void. Like they don't speak up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:46 They don't ask questions. They have a fear of confrontation. They don't want to talk. They're embarrassed. And so, and that's what it's all about. Like, just people not being ashamed about what they're into and just putting it on the table and having conversations. Fantasy, roleplay, you know, I've seen it lead to gangbangs and orgies and hot.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yes. Do you mean? That's all the takes. This goes back to where we started. This is what my show is about. All of that shame and stigma that makes people afraid to say what they're, they really want or even in some cases to even find out to discover to explore so that they can know what they really want that shame and that stigma that all comes from patriarchy yeah all of it
Starting point is 00:55:29 yeah listen I grew up in a time where like slut was a real word I was considered slutty just because I fuck people that I wasn't dated that I wasn't dated like that I wasn't dated like that's how bad it was when I was being raised right well think and think of things like like men feeling like it makes them gay if they like a finger up their butt oh please that's my biggest thing on my show. Yeah. Right. The most pleasure a guy can experience is having his prostate stimulated while he's coming. That is the key to seeing God for men and patriarchy because a feature of patriarchy is the suppression of the feminine. And so we get homophobia out of that because men who want to be fucked are like women and women are worse than men. So now we've got this thing
Starting point is 00:56:11 where men are afraid to say they want something at the butt and yet that's the most pleasurable thing for them. No, I know. That's what I promote on my show all the time. I remember it was the Maverick men. They're very famous porn guys. They were, they're in a very loving gay relationship, but they have these fucking hot, raunchy threesomes with people, you know, and they became very famous for it. They're great. They're lovely. I know them from the city and then they moved, but, you know, they've been on my show more than once. And, you know, I was talking to them. Like, why? Like, because, you know, in my day, like, I was like, who's the trans publicist? Because I felt like trans people. And now it's like fucked up now again, but like, for a while, like, it was so much, like,
Starting point is 00:56:45 more accepted than like even guys are into like just guy on guy action like why is that like the last stigma to go and they explained to me like what you said they're like kathy really what it comes down to is it's misogyny right because if you're not a man like what are they saying that you know if you're not a man what are you you're a woman and what is a woman it's less than and that's and i was like oh i never really thought of it and that's where it comes from like anything that's not manly is less than and it's like you know so we've got to turn all this on its head because the reality is feminine sexuality is voracious and powerful and oh and you know how many guys are sucking dicks and putting shit up their ass i mean guys love to suck dick and putting things up their
Starting point is 00:57:26 butt and i want to make it okay for all i want to make it okay for all the horny like girl sluts to be slutty and make it okay for all the guys to suck and get fucked to their hearts content i love that this is this is this is what makes people happy in life like let's throw all this bullshit programming away we don't need patriarchal programming. Men, women, everybody in between, we could all be free and have better orgasms and more connection and intimacy and wild sex with each other the way we actually want to if we could just get all these dumb ideas about shame and stigma out of our minds. Yeah, somebody recently I had a very, a way older couple on who like wound up hooking up like in their 60s, I think, and they start vanilla all their whole life. You know, partners passed, got together. Now they're having like
Starting point is 00:58:12 fucking orgies. I think they have like a sex parties in their backyard and all this shit. And I'm like somebody made some sort of rude comment. I'm like, do you really think? Because I'm always like deathbed perspective. That's how I make decisions. Like when I'm on my deathbed, am I going to think back? And like, you think these people that are fucking and having the best sex of their life on their deathbed is going to be like,
Starting point is 00:58:29 oh my God, I wish we didn't fuck all those people the last 10 years of our lives. Like no. Like that's the good stuff in life. You know what I mean? Life is difficult. The side part is it's like people want to be good people. They want to be good people. They're trying to be good people. And we get all this messaging about what it means to be a good person. And unfortunately, all of that messaging in our culture is sex negative.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So if you want sex or interesting sex or novel sex or lots of sex or sex or sex with different people or kinky sex or gay sex or, you know, if you want sex that's not heterosexual life partner and monogamous, then you're wrong. You're a bad person. So the fact that people are shaming themselves and keeping themselves from these experiences is actually because they want to be good. And that's what makes it so sad. And the reality is you're going to be a better person, happier, more compassionate, less judgmental if you get over that shame and stigma and go for what you really want. But it's really hard to tell somebody who's trying so hard to be good according to a set of patriarchal metrics that has nothing to do with human happiness. but they really believe in it because that's what they've been told their whole lives make somebody a good person.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah, no, I get it. I thankfully never read any kind of books on that. Like, I never read that book. I don't listen to anybody and I've always been outside of the box. That's why I love you, Kathy. Yeah, yeah. But I do believe that people need to be talking about those kinds of things. I think it's great that you do it on your show.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I love the title of it. I love the guests that you've already. People could go see the get. We already know you've had an or been to an orgy with your first guest. and then we already know you fucked another one of your guests. I fucked two others with my guests. I fucked Billy Preseda Jr. too. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Oh my God. Billy. He's been on my show. I just did a fuck Mary kill with Billy. I forget who it was. It was like Billy. There was three people. I love doing fuck Mary kills on my show.
Starting point is 01:00:21 People are giving me the funniest fucking ones. But wait a second. So, oh yeah, Billy, too. So you're three. You got three on there. You fuck three people on your show. But you're talking about, the most important thing is, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:31 you are talking about these like super important, great things on your social. should go check it out. You're also right, right, on your substack. So why don't you give a shout out to both things and I'll put like whatever you want as a link in the description. Thank you. Yeah, I'll send you all my links and the substack is at sammyamounts. Substack.com. You can become a free subscriber and you'll get half of my essays for free and teasers on the paywall posts. But I will say the pay walled posts are the ducier ones and have lots of personal details about my personal sex and love life. So it might be worth it
Starting point is 01:01:03 to pay five dollars a month for that. Yeah, that's not a lot because is there a lot of content on there? They get access to everything. They get access to everything I've ever written, all of the paywalled content. And I'm going to be adding more and more to it. I'm going to start building it into a community. So it's really fun over there. We're dismantling a patriarchy, one great sex session at a time.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And do you have, like, are you open to people, like reaching out to be guests on your show? Oh, sure. Reach out to me. Happy Slopcast at gmail.com. I love it when people pitch themselves. I've said yes to almost everybody who has because people who want to be on a show called Happy Slet are my kind of people. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:41 So if they want to talk along those lines or have something to say about it, right? Like you would totally have them on. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I also do episodes with anonymous guests occasionally. So, you know, if you're out there and you're like, I just have a story to tell that really fits with what you're talking about, Samia, about dismantling the patriarchy by having good sex, but you don't want to be on video.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Reach out to me. We can make you anonymous. And I love, those are some. of my favorite episodes. I find them so inspiring and moving. Oh, I love that. Okay, so there's your shout out. So happy that your guy is finally here. I can't believe, I mean, that whole story, I could get his whole story of just being in the jail. Like, I had a guy on once, and he thought he was calling in, really, to talk about, like, jail sex. You know what I mean? Because, but really, it was just, to me, the whole, his just whole story of being incarcerated and how it happened. It
Starting point is 01:02:28 was drug related to, too, and how he went in and what happened to him. And then how he rehabilitated himself afterwards, like, was like, one of my. most favorite episodes. Like, I know my people come for the sex, but like, I love real stories. You know, I could have asked you a thousand stories about his time in the Korean prison. You know what I mean? Like, that's the kind of stuff I find fascinating. I can't believe he went through it. It's amazing that he's finally on the other side and, you know, having a really good time. And you're showing him a really good time. You're doing the Lord's work, taking him to orgies. Do you know what I mean? Thank you. I say I'm doing the goddess's work because it's the goddess that we need to be lifting up
Starting point is 01:03:04 right now. The Lord has gotten plenty of... Oh, okay. Your patriarchy. I forgot. I'm sorry. We love the Lord. We love the Lord, but we need to raise the lady up beside him and let them be on equal thrones. I love people. Let me tell you what I love more than anything. I don't give a fuck if people believe what I believe or not believe, but I love conviction. And you fucking got it. You know what I'm saying? That to me trumps everything. I love your conviction for patriarchy and getting the fucking word out. I think it's great. I love that. You don't want to say Lord and you want to say goddess. I fucking love it. I love what you're doing on your show. I'm a
Starting point is 01:03:40 huge fan. I mean, we're doing similar things in different ways and there's there's a need for both both approaches. Everyone's voices are so important. You know what I mean? You have a microphone and you're doing it to help people. I am too in a different way and I love that. You know what I mean? I think like like I said like I just don't do that on my show so I don't have that. But like I've expanded over time, you know, I've expanded. I do experts now on Saturdays. Like I've done different. kinds of things, you know what I mean? But I do think it's important for every voice to be out there talking about all different things. You know, that's what podcasting is all about.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And that's why I think it's doing so well because people are desperate to hear these kinds of conversations. So I love that. You're having those over there. People want the truth. Yeah. So I love it. I'm going to tell people to go check you out.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I'm going to put the link in the description. But Samia, thanks so much for calling in. This was fun. Thank you, Kathy. It was a pleasure as always. Bye. Samia, do me a favor before I go tape the intro. Send me some what picks for my Patreon if you can.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I will send you hot picks. I'll email you. All right. Awesome. Okay. Bye. Let me know your guys on your show. I want to see him. Oh, yeah. We'll talk. Okay. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous confession. Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and ebook,
Starting point is 01:04:58 but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August. 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story.
Starting point is 01:05:20 There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available. And if you buy my book in any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:09 There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.
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