Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 160 - Where Are They Now 2016: Gangbang Christine's Open Marriage is Totally Over

Episode Date: January 9, 2017

Gangbang Christine (episode 131) calls in to talk all about how and why her marriage is ending. Is she still dating the well hung guy she met at the ganging? Is that the reason her marriage broke up? Tune in to hear all the juicy details plus hear quick updates Rob & Rue (episode 121), Chance (episode 143), Melissa (episode 118), Izzy (episode 116) and Violet (episode 156). **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You know, it's so annoying how much I have to edit these podcasts that sometimes I just don't edit shit out because it's, I figure it's not that bad. Anyway, so if you can write a review, that's great, write a review. I love the reviews. And it really helps a show in ways that I'm just not going to get into, but it does. So anyway, this is another update show. I got a couple quick updates from previous guests. And then the guests who I have on today is a long update.

The girl who I have on today is Christine. I get into like exactly who she is and what her episodes are, you know, on the actual episode. But she's the woman who I had on that had a gang bang. She was married. She had the okay from her husband to have a gang bang with a bunch of guys. And then she was on a second time and we talked about. other things. And you get the whole scoop on her previous episodes as well as what's going on

with Christine, gang bang Christine. And that's on this episode. And I have a couple other quick updates of people who just sent me email. So I don't know. There was a couple named Robin Rue. They were episode 121. They were like a polyamorous couple. And they were looking, I think, for a guy. Like they were very anti-a-woman coming into the thing. They were looking for a guy. and they were having trouble. So they hadn't found somebody when we spoke, but that's what they were looking for. And it turns out that they still haven't found anybody,

but they did get married. So there you go. That was like the good news, and they're very happy. So they're still polyamorous sort of like looking for somebody else. But they haven't found it yet. That's episode 121. If you want to hear about a polyamory couple

who, you know, were very successful at doing that kind of a relationship. Izzy, who was a really interesting podcast or guest, he was episode 116. He was a guy who had inappropriate thoughts sexually. Like he could only get off if he thought about his mom and his sister. And it was like kind of like a fucked up thing because, I mean, well, it wasn't fucked up. The episode was actually really good. It was like fucked up more so before when I got the email because I was just like,

you know, what do I do with that? I didn't really know where that episode was going to go or what that guy was going to be about. But he was actually a really good guy that was like trapped with these thoughts that he knew were wrong. And he was actually really looking for help. It's a really interesting episode. That was episode 116. I emailed him and he said those thoughts are completely gone.

And I was like, so let me just ask you. Like how did they go away? Right. Like what did you do? And he said that once he started focusing on his emotion. of what he was actually feeling, like, in regards to, like, his regular life, like, those thoughts went away. And I thought, you know, that's kind of fucking brilliant, right? Because maybe those thoughts and that stuff and all that, you know, elicid sex stuff that was going on was like a

distraction to keep him away from, like, you know, bad feelings that he needed to deal with. And so he found that once he started to really deal with that stuff, he didn't have those thoughts anymore. So that's huge. I think that that's a major breakthrough. And I think that that's a really good update. So congrats to Izzy who, so if you want to listen to that podcast too, though, if you never have, it's a really interesting one that's episode 116. Izzy's doing well. There was a guy named Chan's out. Did I ever to give you this update? I don't know, because I got this update from him like right after the episode. He was 143. It was like a when Harry Met Sally episode. I don't know that many people cared about that episode. I did

and I do because I love that when Harry met Sally, best friends get together a situation. I always like would fall in love with my best friend growing up because I always love that movie and I always love that I always think that that's just like a great foundation to a relationship right it never worked out with me and any of my best friends but um chan said called in because he was like he he was friends someone for a very long time and then he was kind of secretly in love with her he just figured it out you know like and he was like didn't know what to do and um soon after and that's episode 143 so soon after we spoke, he actually came clean and told her, and she was totally into it, and they had sex, and they have been a couple, and they're really happy. And so that was one of those episodes where

you're like, this could go either way. Like, you should, like, if you're in that kind of situation or you've ever been in that situation, that's an interesting podcast, too. And you know that it has a good, uh, happy ending. And I remember thinking when I talked to him, like, there was a good chance that she was going to be like totally into him. And there was a chance that she was just like, you know, sort of playing games with him. But that's an interesting... See, this is something I want to edit out, but I'm not going to edit it out.

That was an interesting podcast. You should listen to it with a good ending. And Violet. Remember Violet? She was just on. It was episode 156. She was the girl who could only get off watching women fart and listening to it and watching it.

And she had told me after we spoke that she was going to give herself until December or Christmas. like to stop. So I asked her if like she had quit the whole farting video things and stuff and she said not yet. So she's still working at it. But you know, we got to give Violet a chance to, you know, conquer this. It's only she, you know, it's only been like a month or two since she's been on the show. I give her a year to get over her farting thing. But if you didn't listen to that episode, that's another interesting one too. This was like, that's like a real thing. Like that was another one like the Izzy thing. Like I was like, where is this podcast going to go?

like she called it. I thought maybe it's a joke. I don't really know. Like how am I going to take it seriously? But that's like a, it's another one where you read the title and you think like, what the fuck. And then you listen to the episode and it's like, it's just like a real person with a real problem that really needs help.

And so it's interesting. It's an interesting listen. And even though she hasn't sort of conquered the problem yet, I think eventually she will one day. So anyway, that's a bunch of more. That's a bunch of, uh, updates on some of my guests from 2016. And now we're going to have the update on Christine, gangbang

Christine. I never called her that, but that's who she was when she first called in. So I'll be right back on with Christine. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast. at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name.

And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Christine. Welcome to a strictly anonymous podcast. How are you? Thank you. I'm good. How are you?

I'm good. So they say things come in threes, right? This is your third time of my podcast. I had, um, yeah, I had reached out to you like I did most of my callers from 2016, looking for an update. I had already gotten an update from you a little while back because people were very into your episode.

You were Christine. You had two episodes. I should really have the episode numbers here. But there was one where you had a gang bang, right? That was the first time you called in. You were a married woman who got the okay, right? From your husband to have a gang bang with a bunch of black guys and your white and your guys way, right? Yep.

That was the deal. How many guys again did you do? at that podcast, I was going to say, big difference. At that event. Yeah. I do podcast, you do, or geez, gang bangs. A little bit more interesting. How many guys that you do again at that game?

Four guys. Okay, cool. And what happened in where we left off that first episode is that you met a guy there that you had like sort of an instant connection with. Oh, okay. So your episode that you got gang bang by a bunch of black guys is 128. So anyone wants to listen to it. It's a great episode.

right. And where we left off that episode, I mean, you're going to get a lot more details if you listen to the episode. But where you left off that episode is that you had met a guy and that you really connected at that gang wing. And you started, you had exchanged numbers, right? And then we did an update show. And by the time you called back in, right, you were dating that guy and you still had a husband. And I know that I did an update show with you because a lot of guys wrote in about that episode and they wanted to hear more, right? And it turned out that that episode was very different. And I was like, oh, no, I hope my listeners aren't disappointed, right? Because there wasn't a lot of SCX talk in that episode. It was all a lot about your relationship with your

husband and that kind of stuff. And honestly, the person who, like one of the guys who was like obsessed with your first podcast, after that podcast aired, he was like, oh my God, that was so interesting and it made so much sense, right? So you did do another episode. it was number 138. And we talked a little bit more about your husband because I was a little bit like, how could this guy totally be okay, right? Because what you told us on that episode

was that you were now dating that other guy. You were in a full-fledged relationship with it. And he was just like, okay, but not really, right? Like people would have to listen to that episode because it turned out to be really interesting and it really put the pieces together because I didn't think it kind of, it made that much sense because he wasn't really getting anything out of it for him to just let you go.

But what it was was that he had some issues sexually speaking, right? You guys had major issues in your relationship. And I felt like, and I think you agreed that it was kind of like he had no choice. He was most likely what I thought, probably not really like a willing participant in this scenario, but I don't think that he, and I think, like I said, you agreed that he had any options, right? Like, he was kind of stuck with you, and this is what you were doing because you had had like this rebirth. You were going through a very major change in your life. You had lost a lot of weight. That's what made you want to do the gang bang.

You were stuck in a bad marriage, but you were like, you were like at a place in your life where you just like got your shit together and you wanted to live again, right? So that's what the gang bang came up. And then that's when like you were focusing on all these problems and the new boyfriend. with your relationship, right? And then shit hit the fan in your relationship, right? And that's where we're at now. I'm not at the fan with my husband

and a little bit with the other guy that I was in the early, were the guy that I was dating. I wasn't so much that hit the fan with him. It's just, you know, we were, you know, fairly, we were thinking of her quite a bit. But at the same time, you know, and I under his throat, that he was single, he was going to see other people because I was married.

I am married, you know, I'm not going to, I wasn't going to ask him to just exclusively see me when I'm going home to my husband every night. So, shortly after my last episode, you know, we realized with my husband that he was having a pretty major breakdown. we actually ended up in the ER both behavioral health and regular ER and in a lot of his offices trying to get him help and he ended up being diagnosed as bipolar. Oh, poor guy. Well, what happened?

Did he freak out though? Listen, because I don't know when they diagnose people, sometimes you just don't know. Like, I mean, maybe he was just having like the stress of everything that was going on. Like, was he always bipolar or no? Yeah, yeah. So, and wouldn't you know, my dad is bipolar? Yeah, I think we discussed that before. Yeah.

So we, you know, it was pretty, when I looked back at two of the signs and some of the, some of the stuff that went on in our marriage long before any of the other men in relationships and any of that happened, you know, I really really. see a lot of signs of, you know, major depression and a bipolar in him. And because of that, you know, the FSRI that he was on, not only were they affecting him sexually, but they were absolutely wrong for his type of depression. Yeah, that's pretty bad because there's a special concoction if you're bipolar compared to something else, right? So they weren't leveling him out at all.

no they were they were really hurting him oh god that's terrible yeah i think a lot of it really led to the numbness because you know i was part of part of the reason why it was so easy for me to be in a relationship with someone else

when i was family was because he didn't fight for me at all you know and that was kind of a disappointment we guessed that he wouldn't say no no you're not going somewhere else you're my life, you know? Yeah, but let me ask you this. Were you, like, consciously, like, looking for that, or do you look back and realize that now?

Because it wasn't like a game you were playing, because that kind of sounds like a game, like, you know, you're like, oh, I want to go straight just because you want him to step up to the bat. But that really wasn't the way that it worked. It's more like looking back that you realize that maybe on some level you were looking for that, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think so.

You know, I was looking for something to truly that. He really wanted me, you know? I mean, the sex wasn't there. I didn't feel attractive or desirable to him. And I thought that he was really abandoning our marriage, and there was just nothing that he was indicating that he really truly wanted to be married. You know, I think it, to me, I felt like it was more of a convenience, and I'm more of a caretaker for him, which is what I really ended up being this summer.

you know he doesn't have much of the support system he chooses not to have much of the support system and you know it has been my responsibility to make sure that he's okay for years and years so once so so after the bipolar diagnosis you know we've been seeing a lot of therapists individually together um once that happened you know it was kind of like a i guess the switch flipped for me and it hasn't flipped back and I had to tell him this that you know I can't go from being you know your caretaker and almost a mother and a nurse and someone that's responsible for your well-being back to being a wife you know like there's just not immediately you know and and he once he started lifting from his fog he kind of realized

what was going on. After the SSRI, he's out of the system, he felt like maybe he wanted to be sexual again, and I just was not feeling it. Okay, let me just play devil's advocate, because I know there's a lot of guys listening right now,

and this is what guys are thinking. Okay, because guys are always want to think that girls are cunts, right? Like, they all secretly hate women in a little level, right? And I know that there's a lot of guys listening and thinking, like, what a bitch! like this guy, right, let her go, fuck other guys, let her have a relationship.

He was diagnosed with something that he was like being fed the wrong stuff the whole time, right? It wasn't really his fault, right? So he was half checked out. He let you go do other things so that you could get your needs met because he wasn't sort of meeting them. And now he's finally figured his shit out. He's coming out of his own. And you're like, no, I'm not interested. see you later.

Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. And, you know, the thing is, that was really like, you know, we can look back at six months that I was fucking other guys and had another man in my life. But we're looking at years and years of, honestly, the two of us really being in our own little silos, even though we're married, you know. Looking at our marriage, it was a lot of pit for chat, a lot of, well, I did this, so you need to do that. there was never really any we or us. It was always, wasn't it for me,

kind of. And, what, for both of you? Both of you were like, what's in it for me? Okay, cool. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, thanks to some good therapists, I really, and also, and also, thanks to the other man

who, you know, was there and traveled with me and, you know, I travel for work, and, you know, really opened my eyes that, you know, I've been married for seven years to someone

who really hasn't, we haven't been partners for most of those seven years, you know? Were you dating before? How long were you dating before? About two years. So we've been now together. It's been almost 10 years. Okay. And like how many years into it?

Like you feel like the whole time there was like no real relationship going on for seven years? I would say the first year was pretty good. Then we started trying to have children and we found out about all of our infertility issues. My husband's having the issue he does and that's when I've just started going downhill, honestly. Right. And let's just say, let's just explain what that was because that takes, we talked about

that on a different podcast, but if people haven't listened, the deal is like the the infertility is that he has a very, very, very low sperm count or something going on with his sperm that he can get someone pregnant. He just needs to do IVF, right? And you didn't want to do that, right? And why do you think after all of that, like I don't know how many years you tried or anything like that, but why do you think that after that things went downhill?

So I'm down to his, I should say to his. It comes down to, like, he was, he felt a lot of pressure to perform when I was ovulation. when we were trying. I've always had a higher sex drive than him, even when we first started dating. I've had a higher sex drive, and if we're dating, you don't really, I mean, you know,

it's okay. Maybe we don't have sex every day. Maybe it's, you know, three times a week. But as we got into our marriage, you know, it became where I had to pressure him for sex, and it had been that way since the first year of our marriage. And it was that way since we, try to get pregnant and never ended.

And he always, he would complain to me about the pressure and that he didn't. Yeah, he probably, this is the deal. He probably had pressure before because you were so much more horny than he was. And then let me tell you, you know, I wound up having a baby on my own, but I started out doing it with a guy, right? And so I went through all that kind of, I tried for many years have a baby before I had my baby. Yeah.

Did IVs and IUIs and all that stuff. and I'm sure many people listening have gone through that stuff as well. Because it's very common, but people don't talk about it. But, you know, anyone that has done that or even tried without any of that stuff, there's nothing that takes, that makes sex, like I was devastated at what it did to my sex life with my guy when we were trying. Yeah. Like, it's really, really bad when you have to have sex because this is the time and you just

got the sperm injected and you got to fuck at this time. It just takes the fun out of it, and it does. I could see how that could be a major strain on a couple's. It's definitely a major strain on a couple's sex life. And if you're having problems, if you had problems before that, I mean, it just only, you know, of course it went downhill. Because it's like it does really kill the vibe. It does. And then shortly they're on story, you know, she's trying having anxiety and depression and all that when I have put their eyes.

It's just been like, it just hasn't been a break for us in a good way. You know, like nothing has... Yeah, well, he got on the wrong. Like, he started to feel terrible about himself and then went to the doctor and they misdiagnosed him and gave him the wrong medication. So he, you know, went down the wrong path, not even by choice, right? So there was no helping him, poor guy. And then you probably went down another path of not being happy.

but what you did eventually is like you were like you got on you got on a mission to like change your life and you know started working out and lost like a ton of weight and like felt like amazing about yourself after years of feeling really not happy. I mean that's honestly what's probably going to happen to your guy now because he's coming out and he's on the right medication but what happened. Yeah. Unfortunately in your relationship and I think we talked about this a little bit on the first podcast and this is why relationships sometimes break up and I don't necessarily think breakups or endings or like as bad as people make them out to be. I think this whole you marry someone, have to stay with them for the rest of your life is the most ridiculous thing that is

put on people. I really believe that like divorce has such a negative sort of thing attached to it when sometimes and a lot of times, you know, life, you're not meant to sort of walk on the same path with someone forever, you know? And especially the younger you get married, the more likely there's a chance that you might go down separate ways at some point, right? And what happened in your situation and it was like a timing thing is that you sort of came into your own and at a new major place in your life at a time when he wasn't yet there, you know, and that a lot of times, stuff like that a lot of times drives couples apart, you know? And is it necessarily a bad thing? No. Like if someone doesn't hop on board and do the same kind of changes at the same time,

And then you become like different people at different places at your life and you're just not compatible. And I think that happens a lot. And I don't think it's a bad thing. I think eventually when you look back 10 years later, like everyone's happy and in different places and it works out. But everyone thinks it's such a terrible thing. And some people force staying together in times like that. And maybe it's not right, you know. Like it is good that he's sort of at that place now.

But you're like way beyond it. and it seems like you were not, like you had, like the train had left the station. Like you were never going to go back to that relationship, unfortunately. You did help him. You stayed along enough, right,

to help him sort of get on his feet. Because you left, you left him totally now, right? Well, we are separate and to be done. So, yeah. Mm-hmm. Um,

sorry, I got a little more small, But, yeah, it's pretty much, it's pretty much done. Oh, are you crying? No. Oh. It's just, I don't want to know regardless. You know that's like the thing.

It's so sucks. So I'm composing myself with this effect. But, yeah, we're moving out of our house this year. I want it sad on one hand on the other hand. Like, honestly, there is no way for him. I don't see a way for him to grow with still having me of his life because I grew up with, you know, my dad was bipolar and I just, like, that diagnosis to me, it sounds really, I feel really petty. that knowing that I don't know if I'm ever, ever

ever going to be able to trust that he's okay because or that he's not going to make a decision tomorrow that is going to be in some kind of mania that's going to just crush me Well let me ask you this You were with him for 10 years

and you didn't even realize he was bipolar And even when he was on the wrong medication, right? Or did he have a lot of those manicure? sort of episodes. Oh, there's a couple of different bipolar. My dad is bipolar one, where there's like really distinctive high-flying medium and really distinct of low-low. My God, there's an over-meaning a lot.

Now, bipolar two is characterized by much lower overall. So his myth. Wait, you just broke up. You just broke up. Can you say that again? His me. Sorry? Yeah, his me.

Yeah. So if mania manifests more as him being really irritable. Okay. And he has some major spending issues. Okay, but like that sounds like, it sounds like normal behavior. I mean, I know women like that and men like that. Like, you know, I mean, I know that they claim it's bipolar and I'm sure it is. But like, you know, a lot of people are irritable and have spending problems, right?

Yeah. Well, but it's kind of like beyond just spending problems. It's going to get an oil change and buying a new car. You know. He sounds kind of fun. No. Like, but that's for us and for me, like, that's not in our budget. You know, like, you just don't go buy a new car without even talking to your wife.

Right, right, right. Of course. I mean, those are, but those could be, listen, I think that's a lot of times. times couples that sort of get together wind up to have a lot of opposite sort of things. And that's why they kind of work. But they, those things, because somebody like him needs somebody like you, right? You're both at opposite ends of the spectrum. So maybe you both meet in the middle.

Maybe you get a little bit looser with your cash and he like learns how to be a little bit tighter with it. You know? So I think that that's like, those are common sort of problems that people have in the relationship. But my point is the only reason why I'm bringing that up is because like you, were like you say like now that you know you can never be with him but the truth is you were with your father for 10 years I mean this got like without you even knowing it and I say this on my podcast all the time like we smell our parents from a mile away like you know like you know that shit like you have

been with someone who's bipolar this whole time do you know what I mean yeah that's the truth it's not moving forward you know you that's what you had you know and that's who you were with because he wasn't medicated at all. Right. He was actually medicated improperly, right? So now that he's going to be on the right medication, he could be different. But I don't know, like, I don't know, like you, I know that you say you have it in your mind. Are you using that as an excuse because you just feel so bad to sort of just really like come to terms with the fact that you're just not in love with him anymore, even though you probably love.

him and always will. I mean, you just broke down and cried because like you said, on some level, it's like devastating, right? This is somebody that you were with for 10 years. And even though it's not going to work out, it's still an ending and there's massive sadness there. So is it just that you don't want to sort of believe or like admit to yourself that you just completely fell out of love with him? Or, because I don't know what it is, or are you using that as an excuse and just saying that because maybe you just want to keep continuing with this other guy and you don't really you're not really ready to go back to your marriage and you're kind of confused or you're like using that as an excuse of why you wouldn't go back do you know what I mean which do you think it is I don't I

I am 99% sure I will want to go back to my marriage um I think part of it is me trying to just to fide to myself why it's good for him for us to not be married. I'm trying to look at, try to look at reasons why it's good for him. Uh-huh. Because I feel really guilty. Right. I feel really, really guilty.

Well, how is he taking the divorce? How is he taking the massive separation? I mean, you guys, you're moving out. Yeah. So it took a lot for him to get there. You know, we, we spent the summer, and I spent the summer. You know, I have been going to therapy, and my therapist, like, we went to couples therapy, and I went in for my individual session with her.

She's like, she's like, I've been wanting to throw you a lifeline this whole time. She said, you're drowning in this relationship. And so, you know, I've been really trying to work to get him there. And finally, things are. came to her head. I don't know why. He said something made him suspicious. And he went into my computer and found my archive of text messages with this guy. And there were some things that I said that were very uns flattering to my husband. Oh, about him? Yeah. Oh, that's very unfortunate that he had to see that. And so he, but in the same respect, he broke into my personal computer, you know,

It's kind of weird because like he would, you guys had a very open. You were open, but this was the thing. This was what was kind of weird about your open relationship with them is that he would ask you some questions about certain things. And you had a line that you wouldn't let him cross. You were kind of like, I'm going to go and do whatever I want. And I'm going to fuck this other guy. And I'm going to go on vacation with him or anything. But like, there are certain things I will not like answer.

This is why that whole thing came up in that podcast. The second one, kind of like, what guy would put up with that shit? Because that's kind of like very difficult for somebody to handle right. And that's where his probably craziness and going into your computer, like that's probably where it came from because like he knew you were having an affair. He knew so much about it.

But there was a little bit he wasn't allowed to know. So, I mean, I would probably. go looking to. I mean, you got to cut the guy a little slack. I mean, he didn't just go looking for no reason. He was in a very weird place and he was in a, considering

where he was emotionally too, like, I mean, he had nothing else going on. He knew his wife was literally having a relationship with another guy and he wasn't allowed to get certain information. So you could kind of understand why he went rifling through your shit, right? Kind of. I can.

I can. You know, and he, and he He was kind of waking up from his thought. And he, there was an evening before this happened, maybe a month or two before this happened, where he basically told me if you walk out that door and go see him, and you shouldn't come back. Okay. Well, you know, you were looking for that.

That's what you said you wanted. Well, yeah. And I told him, I was like, you know what? I'm going to go see him. And, you know, we started to. really had a lot of tension over it and he brought up the sex and you know

you'll go and you'll suck this guy you know three times a week but I haven't gotten any for months and you know that's why I basically had to tell him that I just wasn't feeling it you know I'm not yeah that's difficult so you could understand

but you could like all I'm trying to say is like I could the more you tell me the more I feel like kind of yay for him he was also waking up as well. He needed in a weird way, I think it must have been very devastating for him to see the stuff that you were saying behind his back, but probably really good for him to know the truth. To really know where you were at, to have it sort of smudged in his face that he would wake the fuck up and be like, no offense, but like, you know what?

I'm not doing this anymore. Like, I'm not into this anymore because he's, He had no control over that. Like he was being totally treated kind of like shit in a relationship. He was trapped too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So in a weird way, it was the best thing for him.

If he was my friend, I would feel bad for him, but happy for him that he finally was able to get some sort of thing that would make him be able to stand up and say, you know what, I can't do this anymore. Like this is, you know. And give you that ultimatum, you know? And I was, you know, for me, like it was, it sucked. Yeah. That day, the next day, you know, I was really, it was really, really, really shitty.

Uh-huh. I felt really shitty. Uh-huh. But that, I don't think it would have taken, I don't know if anything less than that would have been a catalyst for us. to be where we are now. Exactly. Which I think it's going to be better for both of us. Totally.

Totally. Yeah. Like you said, he needed a bottom. You had your bottom. Like, you know, this is, that's what had to happen. And yeah, you look like the worst one, right? For sure, because you, right? Because, but.

Yeah. 10 years from now when he's happy with somebody else and you're happy with somebody else and your lives are in good places. Like, are you going to, is it going to be like you do it? both took part in the situation. That's why like when couples, like, have nasty divorce or whatever goes on with couples most of the time, like, it's a 50-50 thing going on. You know, I never buy into like, oh, one person is 100% right and the other one's terrible.

Like, please. You both were like in this relationship, you both were doing things that were right and wrong and you both contributed to the demise of your relationship equally. And like I said, is that a bad thing? that's just, you know, what was supposed to happen between you guys, you know? And you're both becoming better people through it, right? Because there is a silver lining here. Like, you turned massive corners in your life and, and this is something that you just needed to do. It was like the final thing that you needed to do to change your life for the better. And he needed to do that as well.

He was in a bad place, too. He probably could have never felt good about him sexually with you, good about himself sexually with you either. Just like you couldn't like get it up, like get into him. Like he probably would never be able to get it up with you with your guy's history of everything, with you knowing everything. Like if he starts over with somebody new when he's on his new medication, when he feels good about himself, like he could go in like, you know, a different person. So it'll be much better for him as well.

Yeah. I agree. And, you know, I don't think there was any way. for him to get there while still being with me. No, definitely not. There's nothing, you know, I really, really tried. And when I was, you know, as I've gone through this transformation, as I continued drawing, it's ongoing for me.

I really, I really tried to get him into, you know, when I was doing, I encouraged something on his own, and he just never, never get it. And now he's going to be doing some things and taking you from classes. He's got a support group. And, you know, I think these are things that had, had years ago, when I started hearing about myself, had he taken these steps? I don't think we would ever be here now.

Yeah, that's what I said. Like, if you both went through that major change, you would have wound up to be on the same path. But that's what a lot of times, like, people's timing in their way. life like no one's right or wrong like you're not better than him that you did it two years earlier he's later everyone has their own time in their life to do things that they need to do and they come to figure out things and learn things and change at their own pace like I said and what's right for them in their life and a lot of times that just doesn't jive with somebody else and when you're married to people and that's why I think you know people that get like married so young they're so

crazy because it's like how do you think it's going to last and listen people do. Tons of people get married to their high school sweeter and they last forever. And I give them fucking credit. I think that that's like soulmate stuff or something crazy. I don't know. Yeah, something weird.

Yeah, it works though. It does for some people. But I think it's like, but I think it's like mostly scary to get married when you're so young because the odds of you staying with that same person and going through all the changes you're going to go through. And that person's going to do all the changing at the same time and you're going to be in like the change.

that are very slim and that's why we see so much divorce and I like I said people think it's such a bad thing and I think it's like a natural thing that people change and grow and maybe go down different paths and then they want to be with somebody else or do other things and it's time to say goodbye. That's why I've always been friends with my exes. I understand people that are friends with their exes and everyone's happy because they get over it because that's just life. It's not a bad thing. It's a devastating thing. I get why you're crying. I get why you're that. I get that it's like the hardest thing. But, you know,

that's life. It's a part of life. And, you know, it will be for the better. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's been about two months since he read the text and, I mean, called me everything in the book and you really,

really tough for a while. But we've actually, you know, still living in the same house until someday. Uh-huh. you know, we are, we're friends. We, you know, we, we, we still love each other. And we've talked about that.

It's just not the same, like, I love you kiss me out the door kind of feeling. Uh-huh. Let me just ask you just for this. I just want to know what was in those scandalous texts that he saw. Oh, God. Well, you know. No, I don't know. Better.

Like, part of there's a married white woman in black dance. seriously, right? So, you know, it's just how much better as dick is. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. And he saw all that. You know, there were kind of what I would say. I was doing one thing, but I'd really be at a hotel because I didn't want him to know how much I was seeing this guy, you know. Oh, so you started to lie about your relationship with this guy to him, even though he knew about it. Well, he knew about some of it, he didn't know about some of the other times that I go see him, you know. Right, but I'm saying he was like, cool with you going to see.

So in a weird way, because, and I, and I, I pin guys on this all the time, so I have to say to you, like, now it makes even more sense why he went looking. And he had every right to go looking. Because I think that when you are, like, really involved with somebody and you are blatantly lying to them and then they go looking through yourself and you're like, they're so wrong. It's just like, what do you expect? People smell stuff. People know stuff. You can't say, oh, he went crazy for no reason. You were actually lying for him.

He wasn't dumb. People aren't dumb. People pick up on very subtle things. So you were actually lying to him, and that's why he went looking because he knew on some level that you were doing things that you weren't telling him.

So of course I made him crazy enough to go look. That happens all the time with women and men. And then the men will say, oh, she's so crazy, because she's always accusing me. But it's like, if you are actually doing things

behind that person's back and lying about it, don't call the other person crazy. Okay, the other person is just fucking smart. And most people are. We all have gut instincts. We all kind of know. We can't, we don't know for sure,

and that's why people go looking. But he knew, and he was right. well he so that was a few months before he was looking when I would go and do you think he was behind his back when he was very much this fog he was out of his fog

I just that was when he was very much in his bag when he sort of coming out of his bag I would just fly out say I'm going to go hang out with my guy tonight and he started getting angry that I would choose to go see him instead of sitting at home with my husband

of course he was becoming a real man Yep. What you were missing. That's why you didn't get horny for him. Because what woman's going to get horny for a guy that's like, yeah, go fuck a guy whose dick is bigger than me. See you later. Have a good fun vacation while you're not fucking him.

He was just coming into his own finally. Yep. And he was figuring it out. He was figuring out that, you know, okay, this isn't just physical. There's something more, you know, and I think that was really, like, I think he was just realizing that I was born, that I was. Even if it was just physical, I don't think he'd be okay with it. Because physically, this was a man who couldn't get it up.

You weren't even having sex with him and you were physically going and having sex at somebody else. Yep. Yeah. Hey, I don't know where, I know, I know my part in all this. I know that. I'm only giving you a hard time more because I'm on the phone with you. Okay. No, no.

But I give myself a hard time too, you know, like when I go see my phone, I've been like, look, this isn't, you know, they're really, I feel like they're really hard on my husband because, you know, there's a lot of things like very much, I felt like, you know, again, like we've very much been on our own islands. And like, like, like, like you feel, I've seen too bad. You know, one that I've seen with him and on my own. And they all kind of say the same thing. And I thought, well, you know, people look, we're sick of this whole situation because I am not. perfect here, you know? Yeah, but let me ask you this.

Do those therapists know all about the gangbangs and the other boyfriend? Yeah. They do? And they give him more a hard time? Yeah. That's fucked up. They're wrong.

Like, what do they give him the hard time for? I'm not saying that he's right, but why do they give him more of a hard time? Well, it's like a, you know, when I, so, so the boys and, you know, I work on the weekends. I travel on the weekends and they work. And I work really, really hard.

I work, you know, a lot of days where I'm working with a fictional days. I work, it's laborious and on my feet. You know, when I get home, I sleep all Sunday. And then I work a regular full-time job Monday for a Brit. And then I go work on the weekends again. And I, for a long time, was inviting my husband, and I have to do this in order to make ends meet at our home. and I have wanted

I've wanted my husband to go with me he's gone with me a few times and it's been terrible and she's it and he complains and I get so frustrated and worried and finally you know just don't come with me well at the same time whether it's because of him being so depressed or in a spot or whatnot

you know at the same time nothing is getting done at home you know she's not bringing in any other income he's not being only of the housework you know, like, it's, I have felt very abandoned in my marriage, you know, like, A, he had the opportunity to come with me and help me on the road, which he doesn't, and B, he's not helping me at all at home, yet I'm the breadwinner and paying most of the bills and, and I'm killing myself on the road so I can make the ends meet for the new car that he bought when he got an oil tank, right?

Uh-huh. So, like, those are some of the things, and that, that's why I, I think this opening for this other man who did want to come with me on the weekends, you know, whether it's for this back or what, you know, I think that there's just that that opening was there and I was looking for someone to be that kind of help. Mm-hmm. And it was just so easy for me to, it was just, it was just, you know, there's just that opening there for someone that truly, that's, but the good thing is, is that you know, but the good thing is that you had figured, this is why I feel more for him than for you. And this is why I give you a little bit more of a hard time, unlike your, you're guys therapists. Okay. And it's only because you, because you, because you, what?

I like, I like, I like having a critical eye turned down myself. No, no, you do that enough for you. This is the only reason, well, this is what I'm saying, is because you were, like, you guys had these problems, right? And like I said, both of you, like, you know, contributed to the problems. Both of you were equally wrong, right? Let's say we start there. This is before the gang we before.

But what happened at a certain point is you went and got a lot of your needs that weren't being met at home elsewhere. You found another boyfriend. You were fucking him. You were like living another life. You had taken a step out of your marriage and were getting a lot of those needs that your husband wasn't giving for you someplace else. So you were like ahead of him. Like you had it better than him. He was still stuck at home in that terrible marriage that you were stuck in.

But he didn't have a girlfriend giving him the things you weren't giving him. He wasn't getting fucked. He wasn't having a vacation. He wasn't talking shit about you and letting go of his terrible feelings about you to some other woman that cared about him and had a better pussy than you. You were with another. So that's the only reason why I think that there's a little bit of imbalance that. And he's, you know, he'll be there and he'll get there. And I think like good for you that you went and did that.

You were taking care of yourself. You had, like I said, had this change when you lost all the we, and you finally, like, loved yourself enough to start sort of going out and going after the things that you wanted and sort of being that person, right? And you probably weren't that person before. So there's nothing wrong with what you did. And you did it very open and honestly with him, right? So it wasn't like you were wrong, right? You were like right the whole time to do that. But the only reason why I feel more bad for him is because he didn't, he couldn't do that for himself.

So he was still like left in the back in this shit marriage by himself. So what did you expect him to do? What did you really? What are these therapists expect him to do? You know, he needed to have what happened now. He was on the wrong medication, you know, get the medication. And then maybe now he could have maybe made those changes.

But you guys don't have any kids. And you don't, you know, and I don't know that he could come back to being able to have a good sex life with you after you've been with another guy. And you still have a good. relationship with the other guy. So you're not willing to leave that relationship now to be with your husband, right? Yeah.

So, I mean. So that's the only reason why I feel. I totally am giving you a harder time. And I shouldn't because like you say you give you a hard time. But I'm just showing you that there is a little. I like, I don't care if you're my best friend. If you're a guy or your girl, whoever. Like I always, I try to be fair, you know.

So I'm just a little bit more on his side or whatever just because he needs it more than you do. You're more okay. You're more okay than he is. Do you know what I mean? But you weren't okay. And I don't think you're wrong for leaving that marriage. I don't think you're wrong for doing the things that you needed to do for yourself to find yourself. Like at all, like swear. Like you, I think it's all good, you know, even though it was hurtful to him and stuff. Like I said, I only, I can't believe your therapist still put that poor guy down. I mean, he should go find some new therapist too once he's done. with this situation because he needs somebody to like kind of help him get to the place where he goes and gets his needs met too instead of hanging on to you because right now you're not

somebody that's going to be able to give him the things that he needs he needs he needs to go and find that other person as well because you already did he does he does you know and i i really you know honestly with with opening up our relationship and you know when we were back when she was thinking about trying to explore it. My true hope was that he would find someone that was a better foot for him. Right. So you wouldn't feel so bad.

Yeah, because you didn't want to just totally live it. Yeah, of course, because you felt guilty. You care about this person. You're not a terrible person. Yeah. So, yeah, you know, it's sad that it's anything, but at the same time, like,

I'm just, you know, know, I think it's just better for both of us in the long run, you know. Absolutely. I said this in that last podcast, that you were the one, like, what you did as much as it sounds worse because you were the one that went, like you did for your relationship what needed to be done. Like this whole thing was not good. It needed to completely break apart and either it was going to be put back together and

be better or it was just going to be never put back together, but you, you guys would go off separately and be better. But neither one of you were in a good place or happy. So you were, it was good what you, it was the right thing. It really was. Yeah. Shit is messy. Life is messy.

That's why I hate these talk shows. Of course and it's okay. And that's why I always would hate talk shows when I was younger. And I'd see like people and they'd be on the stage with their husband and like someone would say I'm getting a divorce and then the whole people would be like boo the husband that did the bad everyone would be so negative about stuff like this is just the way fucking life goes people have to fuck up people have to do wrong things for things to end things have to be bad it's just the law of nature there's good and there's bad there's day and there's night there's happiness there's sorrow like

that's just the way that it is people aren't bad people are fucking human beings and that's what human do. So you're not wrong. He's not wrong. Right now I feel more bad for him because he's not, you know, but that doesn't mean that you were wrong. Do you know what I mean? You were actually the one that was ahead of the game. You were the one that brought to the table what needed to be done, which was the, you know, everything that you did that brought this relationship down. It was good even though it doesn't seem good. Do you know what I mean? So don't let anyone judge you or make you feel bad about yourself for what you did because, That's just the stuff that happens. And like I said, when you look back, it will be for the better. Yeah, yeah. You know, and it's funny, you know, I see so many people, you know, on Facebook, Twitter, or whatever they are. Follow those people I know people I don't know and going off about their husband,

their boyfriends and cheating and this and that. And I'm like, you know what? People, I honestly don't feel as though. you can be with the same person the rest of your life, whether that means that you're an open relationship or you're you know,

you break up, you move on, you don't get married, you just feel like, you just got to like take things as they are. Right, or they work out in different ways, right?

I mean, listen, I have had so many people on my show that are cheating, okay? And I, and I'll probably have a hundred more,

okay? and they're always like different stories, but it's just because this whole monogamy thing for the rest of your life is a little bit bizarre. I think some people can do it, right? Like you can't say that it's not 100% any way, right? But people are, the younger generation, which I think is great,

are figuring out different kind of ways to make relationships maybe last longer because I think more people are coming to the conclusion because people like you that probably never thought they'd cheat or do whatever, you know, they wind up being in that situation because they're stuck in this marriage and they're not happy. They think I have to stay in it. So then they go do these other things.

Like maybe if there wasn't, if divorce wasn't so negative or if people thought that they didn't have to stay, maybe they wouldn't do these things. I don't know what the solution is, right? But there's like things weren't really working. And it definitely wasn't working in your life, right? But what's great about like you living life messy is you'll have more. empathy moving forward for people in your situation. I think people are so judgmental because maybe they haven't come to terms with the shit that they've done or they haven't done enough living

to really be able to understand. But you know, sometimes you do things that you would never think you do. You wind up in situations. You never think. And it doesn't make you a bad person. Sometimes you do bad things. But, you know, that's just life. So you can't really judge you. or anyone else for cheating or not or what doing a gang bang or whatever it is because first of all you don't know where you're going to be or what you're going to what other people are going to you know um so i'm always happy for all the fucked up crazy shit i've done in my life because it makes me completely non-judgmental and that is like i love that because i hate to like look at people and think that they're bad or wrong for what they did i hate when i see people doing that

because it's bullshit. That's not what we're here for. It is. It is. And it's, it's like to see what I'm here because, so I, and I think I,

you know, we're like the guy and I are still because, you know, I don't, we, we take things day to day. You know, there's,

I don't have any expectations. I think the minute that you have, you know, expectations are going to, where you're not on the same page with someone. or where you don't talk with somebody about it, but you just kind of expect things. I think that's the minute you set yourself up to be heartbroken.

So, but, you know, what we, I told him, I said, you know, he's really the only person that isn't judging me for all my shit because there's a lot of fucking shit. You know, and if that's just with him, like, there's a lot, a lot of shit that that has gone on in the last nine months. And, you know, I think he's the only one that I truly can tell that knows at all, but isn't judging me because she's a met shit too. Right.

And that's why that's it too. Right. And that's why there was that connection between you guys, because there was a, you guys were on the same page that day that you met him, right? And that's how life works. You know, you feel. Listen, I think like when you say, oh, the minute you have expectations, you get heartbroken, like that is, that is like words of somebody that is heartbroken, right?

I do believe that you can expect things. And I do believe that you should. And I don't believe that it always leads to heartache. I think that that's like when you meet the right person. Like that's eventually can happen again for you. I get why you feel that way now, right? and where you're at now, you are in the best kind of relationship you should be in for where you're at right now.

You guys might change and turn into a different kind of relationship in the future. Who knows what's going to happen with this guy with you? But he works for you right now. And it is perfect. And that's exactly what you need. But I do believe, because you're somebody who has really changed and you're going after the things that you want and expect that you you don't believe don't think that you can't have expectations and you can't yeah because you can one day when you're ready for it you have to do

that in love and expect and the right person will stop up to it and give you what you want and be the right thing and you won't be harperger do you know what I mean yeah that I think I think I've survival, like protect myself mode, you know? I don't want to go. And, you know, I feel a little hypocritical because I've always tired of myself on being really strong and independent and, you know, I can go do what I need to do to take care of myself. I don't need anybody else to do anything.

Please. Please. I can help. I live my whole. I'm sorry. I'm cutting up so much in this podcast. I know people are going to be like, what the fuck? but I don't really care. Listen to me. I live my whole life as a strong quote unquote woman doing everything on my own. And I've, like, very recently a couple years ago, really realized that I don't really think that there's anything strong about doing everything yourself and being alone. I think you need help. Everybody does. That's why people partner up in life. I think it's a much better way to be. And I think that there's so much more strength in admitting when you need. You. You know,

need help and in being able to be with somebody and be in a partnership and make that work, I think that there's so, that's so much stronger. So I don't think that whole doing it alone thing and that there's that much strength in it. I don't, I think you're strong right now. I think you are very strong. And there's nothing not strong about knowing that you need to have someone around, that you need help, that you need somebody that's not judging you. And that's where, you know, like, I know that I can do it all myself, but I'll say, like, God, it's nice to have the other person who has my back.

Yes, but I know that he has my back. Like, even if I don't ask him for two days, as I call him up and was like, I'm having the most awful day right now and I need to see him. we're going to meet, you know? Like, it's just knowing that that person is there is really, really, but also the knowledge that if he's not there, that I'm still okay. Right. I know how to make, I know how to live on my own and, like, I think that's what makes it better with him because, again, that, like, there's not this, there's not, there's not,

some kind of need. It's not out of a need. Right. And there's not a need. It's not like you're there because you need him. You're there because you want that in your life. And there's a big difference. I think people that don't feel comfortable being alone and haven't sort of,

they haven't built that sort of inner strength or that inner happiness and just being themselves and being who they are with nothing, right? That's like the place you have to start out. And then everything else is gravy, you know? And that's how you enter into relationships in the best way possible. because then if you don't need that person so desperately, right? You don't put on like bullshit into that relationship. Right.

So that's the best way to start off. And that's where you're at because you started this relationship in a really good place. With for yourself, not in your relationship with your husband. But, you know, there have been like with the guy. You know, I think we started it as a, this is physical, this is fantasy. You know, you're coming over to fuck me at my house. my husband's away. Yeah.

It turned into more, you know, things got a little bit more serious, going like two weekends and things. Well, you know, kind of been wretched in the summer, she kind of living with someone else. And this person doesn't know about me, you know, and this woman, I don't know,

I don't think, from what I, from what he's told me now, like, things are not as serious as they were over the summer. But over the summer, friend. Uh-huh. You know, and I went to a period where I was like, oh, my God, well, I have to try to be something different than when I am now because obviously, you know, this woman is something

that I don't. And I had to take a step back and be like, you know, I shook myself and I was like, stop, you know? Like, if this, if you choose to be with someone else, it's not because of me. It's not because I'm not good enough, like, I'm not going to change who I am because he's enjoying someone else, you know? Right. That honestly has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with her.

She's single, and I'm married, and, you know, and I really had to kind of, like, break this old habit of trying to be different because, you know, and not be true to who I am now because of what I felt they needed me to be. Right. Surprise. So I am, you know, four months later and, you know, he and I are in a better place than we've ever done because I've just been true to myself. And because, again, I don't need him. I am okay. Right.

I think that's great. That's important. And I think of that, I think. quite honestly, I think to him, like, that's more attractive than anything else. Mm-hmm. Of course. Yeah, there isn't that pressure on this relationship because of all of that. And you guys met and you're in the same position, kind of.

I mean, right? So that's why it's working right now between the two of you. Again, like, you know, I don't want to be, I always felt this, like, disdain for women who would go from one relationship. through another relationship and, you know, and I look at myself and like, look, I can't judge those women anymore. I don't know if you were there, what their situation was, you know, I look at my situation and I'm like, you know, this is what it is.

And if I'm not going to, in a more serious relationship with this person, you know, that's for circumstances love me and, you know, I'm not going to turn down being happy with someone because I don't feel like it's because I've looked down on it in the past. You know, I just... Yeah, some people are relationship people. I know people that go from one long-term relationship to another, though. Just not happy being alone. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

People are, like, different, you know? I don't think that, you know, like you said, you can't really judge anybody. Everyone, I see patterns in people a lot, people's lives, and some people have that pattern. I know friends that have that pattern, and I think that that's just what they do when they stay for a long time in their relationship.

So there's something wrong with that. Yeah. For you, you know, you had your husband, you had that seven of your, you'll probably wind up in another long-term relationship. I don't know if it will be with this guy or somebody else. This guy might be transitional, but it's great that you have him. Yeah. I'm really thankful for what, again, for him just having my back with all of this, you know. I know it can't be easy to be involved with someone who's married.

Right. um so you know regardless of what the state of duty started out as i mean we're kind of beyond that that now you know when you get eight months into something you're kind of beyond just you know the gang bang and couple of weird fantasy right right uh-huh um yeah you know it's just it's a really weird place in my life right now but um you know i guess i'm just kind of looking at you know i'm just kind of looking forward to wherever it goes. And if I end up single, if I end up, you know, who knows what I'll end up, but I think it's going to create more gross than I would have staying in my marriage.

I think you're going to wind up with a, I'm going to tell you what I think, okay, because is my psychic premonition, because I make premonitions in the right. I think you're going to wind up with another guy eventually in a long-term relationship and a really good relationship. Probably married again. That's what I think. But I don't think that's going to happen in three months. I say like maybe a year and a half, maybe like a year and a half from now, that's going to have,

that's what's going to wind up happening to you. I think you're more of a relationship person than you are of a alone person. I don't think you're going to be alone for that long. You might even have this guy all the way up until you meet somebody else. But I think you will wind up having another relationship with somebody else. Yeah. Like I said, it won't happen right now, but probably like a year and a half, I think. That's what I think.

And I need to know if I'm right. Yeah. and a half will go by so fast. Really quick. I can't believe it's been like eight months since everything started. You know, I mean, it's just, you know. Right. So eight months will go by so quick.

Yeah. Yeah. Quick question, because we're going to wrap this up. But like, did you and this guy, have you guys just been having like sex with each other? Have you done anything sort of crazy like you used to do like with the gang bang? or are you guys just sort of like just regular sex with you? Just the two of you, right?

So you haven't gone, right? No, I mean, it's really good sex. And I'm really surprised that it's as good now as it was the first time. Right. Usually I get bored, but, you know, not with him. I mean, we've talked about, you know,

I think we'd like to have another woman join us. I think, you know, I've got a friend that I really would like to join us. she's in a poly relationship with her husband but she would enjoy I think she would enjoy I think she and I would

enjoy each other and enjoy pleasing him as well so that's kind of on the table it might happen in the next couple months so because I'll let you know yeah see there you go that's why you need to be single for a year and a half you're going to like live out all these fantasies

and then you're going to wind up in a regular relationship that's what I say that's what I think But, you know, I think, you know, like, we'll go out and we'll be like, you know, she's hot. We could take her back or, you know, we've talked about, you know, finding another woman. We just, it needs to be the right one. Right. And I think, you know, he's got a couple buddies.

I think if we drank or smoked a little weed together and all ended up somewhere, you know, I think things might go down that road. But since the gang bang, I mean, he and my husband. husband is the only two people I've fucked with and I haven't slept with

my husband for a month so you know and I know that he's speaking with a other woman

and it doesn't bother me because I have to be thankful for what I you know I like

I'm fine with what I have with him and you know I can't let another that other

woman that he's speaking with make a difference between me and him you know no he's like

so perfect for what you have right now, don't ruin that by, like, getting so caught up on what he's doing when he's not with you, because you have shit that you have to take care of. So you can't give him 100% anyway right now because you're still, like, have this marriage thing that you have to deal with and you're moving. So, you know, it's good that he has somebody else a little bit on the side because you can't really be fully present in a real relationship right now anyway.

So I think that's smart to just not even take that into consideration. It's funny because, you know, when I knew that they were getting more serious, you know, I told them, I'm like, I don't want you to lie to me or hide things for me. And I know that, you know, tell me what's up with her. You told me what's up with her. I said, I'm not freaking out on you. He's like, this is so weird because I need to really freaking out. I'm like, just don't hide shit for me.

If you can't go with me on a weekend, tell me it's because you're with her. Then I'm not going to bother you. I won't send you naked pictures, you know? Like, I respect your relationship with this other woman. And, you know, he told me that he felt, you know, kind of an instant connection with her the same way that he and I didn't. And I'm like, if that's the case, I can't deny you that. Right. So, you know, and if it ends up that she ends up with her, then I'm happy for him.

Oh, yeah, and then you'll wind up with somebody else. But for right now, I think he's not going to be going anywhere anytime soon anyway, especially if you keep that threesome on the table. Just keep that threesome on the table with him. No, he sticks around for the head. He's supposed to. He what? He just,

he picks around for the board up. So I just have to keep giving them proud of that, that's fine. Oh, okay. That's how I keep them there. Okay, so keep that. But also do that too. Just keep that, you know, that threesome lingering in front of them. It's dangling, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then until you meet somebody else, and then you can let go of them. But anyway, I think you're, you know, I think that's great. So, you know, maybe you'll call back in when you have that threesome, but thanks so much for this update because that was heavy, hardcore stuff. But I think, you know, good, uh, good listen for people because I think a lot of people

go through this kind of massive change at some point in their life. But maybe next time you come on, it'll be a little bit more fun and you'll tell us all about your threesome. I like, yeah. Yeah. I need to have some more good stuff stories because, while it's not going on a little bit, it's have when you, you know, meet somebody with a bang like that. Right.

Yeah. Where do you go from there? Yeah, Christine, the gang bang. I think people want to hear some more stories. So go to work on that in the next couple months while you're dealing with all this pain. I have a little fun. And then call back in and give me the stories. I will.

I will. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure to speak with you. Totally. Good luck with everything. All right. All right. Bye.

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